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November 10, 2008 10:09am by David Farrar

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What the hell will I blog on, now that Winston’s gone?

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philu

yeah..i was 0.8% out..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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November 10, 2008 1:55pm
philu

and why the gloating dpf..?

..you and the rabid far righties have ended up with a centrist prime minister..

..who owes you diddly-squat..

..has policies..acording to ol’ yellowjacket..

..that are ‘further to the left than labour’..

..and who is already frantically scrabbling to escape from the twin cane-toads of wodders & wodger..?

..does the term..(for you far righties)..’hollow victory’ mean anything..

..and if you think clark rodgered the greens every which way..

..you ain’t seen nothing yet..

..wodger & wodders will be screaming in impotent rage..

..very soon..

..and as for me being right/wrong..dpf..?

..seeing as i have been right on so many things..global meltdown/obama..just to name two..

..it may be quicker for you to detail where i have been wrong..

..in all these years of being right..

..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

..btw..if you recall..i also pointed out/told you what key was going to do to national..

ie..drag it back to the centre..

..and knacker/neuter the far-right..

..that all seems to be going to plan..eh..?
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November 10, 2008 2:03pm
philu

and wondering what to do..?

..you could always continue your program of yellow journalism/character assasination..

..(you and hooten could/should team up..)

ttp://whoar.co.nz/2008/the-untimelyunsightly-assasination-of-winston-peters/

(the lowest point in ‘new media’..to date..imho..

..and a glaring example of the uselessness/unquestioning pack-mentality of the mainstreanmmedia..

..there is a real stench around all of you..

phil(whoar.co.nz)

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/the-untimelyunsightly-assasination-of-winston-peters/
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November 10, 2008 2:13pm
roger nome

Helmet –

After the specials come in it’s going to be 59 seats to the green/prog/lab/maori block playing 63 in the Act/UF/Nat block. It was a very close-run race, and the next election will likely go to the left block.

I did predict a left block victory, mainly to stir up the over-confident right wingers around here. The truth is, it ended up being much closer than many of the kiwiblog right were predicting.

oh, and as for you r following comment:

“The potential for a stable government to develop that includes input from every party except Labour and provides long term stability definitely exists.”

That’s completely and utterly out-the-arse. Both the Maori party and the Greens are far to the left of Labour, and given the chance, will support a Labour-led government over a National one any day.
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November 10, 2008 2:18pm
big bruv

Never mind all that rubbish Phool, have you dusted off the CV yet?

I love the idea of you working for the money I give you each week.
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November 10, 2008 2:24pm
PaulL

Philu, you were wrong in your post the day before the election where you claimed there would be a Labour led govt. Flat out wrong. Completely wrong. In every way. And we pointed out that you were in fairy land, and asked if you’d come here and admit you were wrong afterwards. You ducked and dove. And now we know why. Maybe we should start calling you Winston – you seem to have his ability to wriggle and worm your way out of the words you said.
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November 10, 2008 2:26pm
kisekiman

Phil for someone who is right so often, why don’t you start making a few educated plays in markets (say FX) that reward such erudition?

You could then free yourself from the shackles of self imposed poverty and perhaps contribute back to a society that has given so generously to support your intellectual advancement.

Just an idea.
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November 10, 2008 2:27pm
Lee

Anyone who thinks the Jews are running the world and that Key will be tacking his orders from them is someone we should not respond to in any way at all. Do not engage in debate with Jas. Ignore the little Nazi and he will most likely go away.
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November 10, 2008 2:32pm
bobux

That’s right folks – DPF is about to become the right’s Jordan Carter.

Ouch! How low can roger stoop?

Surely an insult that terrible deserves demerit points!
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November 10, 2008 2:44pm
Lee

“..there is a real stench around all of you..”

That might be the alcohol that was drunk in large quantities by those of us celebrating the very real victory that you said repeatedly would not happen.

And while Key will do a deal with the MP (and rightly so) your claim that this “emasculates” the right is wrong. Key will be a moderately conservative centrist, which is a good thing, but both ACT and the MP have a surprisingly large amount in common, especially on welfare reform and educational choice, and this will give Key some room to enact right wing reforms that otherwise might have been more difficult to sell, especially with regards to welfare reform.

The Greens have been dealt a blow, and they should take the lesson and grow up. They need to shed the hardcore communists and liberal social engineers and re-create themselves as a true centre party willing and able to work with both major parties. If they do that they will have a future.

But I don’t think they will. They will spurn any offer from Key and once again render themselves powerless.

For myself this was certainly no “hollow victory”. I voted for a moderate centre-right government that will make gradual but real reforms and I got exactly what I wanted.
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November 10, 2008 2:48pm
bobux

The more I think about it, the more bizarre Trotters ‘crisis of masculinity’ theme is.

New Zealanders have previously elected Helen Clark Prime Minister on three seperate ocasions. Perhaps Trotter has only just noticed that she is a woman, but I think most voters figured this out some time ago. It didn’t seem to bother them in 1999, 2002 and 2005 – blaming the defeat on sexism simply looks like a way to avoid facing up to reality.
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November 10, 2008 2:52pm
roger nome

Am I being blocked?
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November 10, 2008 3:01pm
Manolo

“But Phil, tell us how you got it so wrong? You spent years telling us how you are always right”

Whoar NEVER gets it wrong. He “cooks” and “bakes” to perfection every time. His mind-numbing/addling goods are of the highest and purest quality
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November 10, 2008 3:02pm
PhilBest

THANK YOU, OWEN MCSHANE, MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY:

Owen McShane (433) Vote: 8 1 Says:

November 10th, 2008 at 11:48 am
“I posted this earlier on BLue NZ but given PhilBest’s it seems I should re-post it here:

Lockwood Smith INCREASED his majority from 11,536 to 14,376 a 25% increase.

Maurice Williamson INCREASED his majority from 9,582 to 12,759, a 33% increase.

These are substantial gains which suggests the electorate was not at all upset by either of their comments which the media pounced on with such glee. Indeed these figures suggest they approved of them highly.

So what have they done wrong?

Maurice knows more about transport than anyone else in caucus and Lockwood Smith is one of the few scientists in there too.

So why should they be demoted?

If they are demoted these are victories to the Left and the left media in particular.

So why deliver both their heads on a plate?”
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November 10, 2008 3:11pm
MikeE

I suggest getting the username and password for the standard from the 9th Floor communications department and merging it with Kiwiblog.
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November 10, 2008 3:26pm
jastowns

lee i dont think jews are running the world and have never said so
please tell me how you came to this conclusion
or maybe your the nazi
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November 10, 2008 3:26pm
jastowns

same shit different asshole
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November 10, 2008 3:29pm
llew

Maurice knows more about transport than anyone else in caucus and Lockwood Smith is one of the few scientists in there too.

So why should they be demoted?

Lack of discipline & probably thinking they’re less expendable than they are.
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November 10, 2008 3:35pm
Barnsley Bill

jastowns said: lots of pointless shite

why are you here?
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November 10, 2008 4:30pm
Adam

Jesus, the left have been sucking on those lemons all weekend. Look all I can suggest is you take a “harden the fuck up” pill and deal with it. You get another crack in three years.
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November 10, 2008 4:54pm
Patrick Starr

roger nome (3982) Vote: 0 0 Says:

“Am I being blocked?”

Does it feel like you are? maybe it’s just the election defeat? – see if you can identify the patches they are wearing woger the call the police
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November 10, 2008 5:20pm
WraithX

philu said: “..key will give the harridans in act the flick soon..”

Umm – considering your predictions so far have been 100% wrong, I would stop making them if I were you. It just makes you look like an idiot when the opposite comes true.
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November 10, 2008 9:03pm
sam269

“# big bruv
Phool, Sonic, Woger

Where are you????”

Probably rolling around on the floor after reading pushmejerkoffs comments
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November 11, 2008 2:51am
Lee

In neither of Trotter’s bizarre rants is their any real acknowledgment that Labour did anything wrong. Even when he says they made mistakes, his take on them was that the VRWC media misled the public and they weren’t really true mistakes at all.

I do want to thank him though. Both articles are a good reminder of the reasons the Clark regime had to go. Arrogant, self-righteous, hateful, utterly convinced of the rightness of nanny state, and totally out of touch with mainstream NZ.
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