General Debate 19 August 2009

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Herman Poole

Starboard,

It occurs in nature. If you leave a population of straight people on an isolated island, after several generations a certain percentage will be gay.

This is my understanding of what happens, but if somebody were to show me that many populations did not have ANY homosexuality, I would revise that.
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August 19, 2009 5:59pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

Kapital is the new way to spell Fuckwit.
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August 19, 2009 6:01pm
andrei

It occurs in nature

So do infanticide, incest, rape and cannibalism don’t make any of them right
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August 19, 2009 6:12pm
Kapital

I was only asking
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August 19, 2009 6:18pm
big bruv

DPF

The whole drive to allow same sex couples to adopt kids is political, 99.9% of them want to adopt simply because the system does not allow them to do so, these kids would be the latest fashion accessory for a gay or lesbian couple.

It is already hard enough for married couples to adopt a kid, allowing same sex couples to do the same is only going to make it harder, adopting a child should never be about making a political statement, it should be about providing the kids with the best environment possible and a mountain of evidence tells us that the best environment for them is with a Mum and Dad.

Adoption is first and foremost about the kids, same sex couples can take their “battles” elsewhere, they have no right to use adoption as a way of scoring political points.
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August 19, 2009 6:31pm
Rex Widerstrom

Seen on IRC (and sworn to be true):

linkraceist: my printer is being rather comunist atm
necrokiss: lol, how so?
linkraceist: in theory, there is nothing wrong with it
linkraceist: but when i try to use it, everything goes wrong

*rimshot*
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August 19, 2009 6:37pm
Herman Poole

So do infanticide, incest, rape and cannibalism don’t make any of them right

The big difference is those all harm another against their will. Homosexuality is consenting.
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August 19, 2009 6:38pm
starboard

The big difference is those all harm another against their will. Homosexuality is consenting

but not right. Just like cousins sleeping together…the end result there being phil whore.
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August 19, 2009 6:46pm
Patrick Starr

So Philu – was it consenting in prison?
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August 19, 2009 6:51pm
Hurf Durf

The Age of Stupid? How about The Age of Leave Me The Fuck Alone You Nagging Backward Knuckledragging Do-gooding Greentard Fucknuggets. That’s an age I’d like to usher in.
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August 19, 2009 7:38pm
Hurf Durf

Oh God, isn’t it obvious now? The real phoolu – revealed!
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August 19, 2009 7:51pm
big bruv

I wonder how the pinko’s in the western world who love Chavez will spin the closing of 34 radio stations?

When you think about it what Chavez has done with the radio stations is not far removed from the EFA under Klark.
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August 19, 2009 7:57pm
philu

great minds think alike..eh hurf..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 7:59pm
big bruv

Lindsay Mitchell makes a very good point about the gay adoption row.

http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2009/08/nz-judge-pushes-for-same-sexde-facto.html

Another great reason for doing away with the DPB, it might also be a way of tightening up our shockingly liberal abortion laws as well.
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August 19, 2009 8:08pm
big bruv

Phool

Are you a fan of Chavez, if so why?
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August 19, 2009 8:09pm
Hurf Durf

I wouldn’t call Piggy Chavez great, or even a mind.

Did you vote for RAM, phool? They sound right down your alley.
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August 19, 2009 8:10pm
philu

he nationalised the oil companies..

he broke up the big land holdings..

..and gave the land back to the people..

..he instituted free education..free health..

..and has overseen a massive transfer of wealth..(in what was one of the most inequitable countries..)

..he has offered the helping hand..in the most practical ways..(building schools/massive aid)..to his non-oil-rich/poor neighbours..

..he told the americans to fuck off..

..he overcame a cia driven coup..(which those radio stations were a key component in..being owned by the former elites..)

oh..!..and he gives free heating oil to americas’ poorest..

how’s that for starters…?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 8:16pm
big bruv

Phool

So you favour communism do you?

I will say this for you, unlike the other Green supporters at least you are honest about what you want.

Tell me, does Chavez allow people to like you to live off the hard work of others?
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August 19, 2009 8:21pm
Hurf Durf

Free free free free illegal transfers of wealth fuck off yanquis free free. You sound like one of those loons who wax lyrical about NZ’s “independent” (see: anti-Western and pro-Chinese) foreign policy. I’ve always loved the irony of Piggy whining about a coup when he himself attempted one in 1992. Did you know Venezuela’s oil producing capacity and economy itself is set to crumble?

Hey, turns out socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money to spend. Just as well the Hondurans told Zelaya to take a long hike off a short cliffedge.
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August 19, 2009 8:24pm
Steve

The Americans are waiting for you Phool.
They have newspapers to print and sell tomorrow you know.
It’s a wonder your blog has not crashed with the overwhelming interest.
How much did we pay you today for doing nothing Phool?
Stupid Prick
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August 19, 2009 8:29pm
philu

bb..i favour a northern european model..

..of higher taxes..and strong social nets..

)y’know..!..those places that always show up in surveys as ‘happiest’..?..)

..’communism’ has never really been tried..

..and what chavez did in venezuela..was needed..because of the inequities of that culture..

..we need revolution here..but not of that sort..

we need an environmental-revolution..

..(one authorised by the voters..in an election..

..it will come..)

..and b.b..show me a ‘better’ sth american leader..doing ‘better’ work..

and hurf..

“..Just as well the Hondurans told Zelaya to take a long hike off a short cliffedge..”

it is generally accepted that was another cia-driven far-right coup against a democratically elected ‘socialist’ leader..

the hondurans didnn’t tell him to take a hike..they voted him into office..

the elites/rightwingers/cia sent him ‘off the cliff’..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 8:40pm
nickb

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10591877

Good to see Rodney, good stuff.
And philu don’t act like the NZ public would ever back your communist revolution. They may have been naive enough to vote for 9 years of Labour, but the only way your kind of government could ever be implemented is at the barrel of a gun.
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August 19, 2009 8:44pm
philu

i said a (voter-authorised) green revolution..

…not a ‘communist’ revolution..

btw..chavez was voted into office..

his leadership is the democratic will of the venezuelan people..

..and he has been re-elected..

what’s yr problem with that..?

he hasn’t taken power thru the use of the gun..

..he has won/earned the will/support of the venezuelan people..

..they love him for the changes he has wrought..

..he has freed many venezuelans from lives of grinding misery/poverty..

..with no chance of escape..

..and all that while an elite exploited the majority of venezuelans..

..and is educating those who before weren’t taught..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 8:50pm
Hurf Durf

we need an environmental-revolution..

I agree. We can kill you and turn you into lovely fertiliser.

..and b.b..show me a ‘better’ sth american leader..doing ‘better’ work..

Uribe.

it is generally accepted that was another cia-driven far-right coup against a democratically elected ’socialist’ leader..

Educate yourself before you rail your muck on here. It’s so far right a man from the SAME! POLITICAL! PARTY! as Zelaya is now Interim President who will step down after November’s election.

he hasn’t taken power thru the use of the gun..

No, but he tried, God love him.

..they love him for the changes he has wrought..

In the same way every peasant deals with politics: so long as they get a bottle of their favourite drink and some domestic animal life to screw, they’ll support him so long as the booze and the fucks flow.

..he has freed many venezuelans from lives of grinding misery/poverty..

Until the economy collapses.

..and is educating those who before weren’t taught..

In the same way the Soviets did.

..eh?..
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August 19, 2009 9:02pm
Komata

FWIW, something to consider:

A lesbian couple in a long-term relationship. The ‘wife’ becomes pregnant courtesy of a gay male friend, (who then disappears from the scene) resulting in the birth of a son.

It seems to me that, by thus acquiring a human toy to play ‘ happy families’ with, this couple have achieved the ultimate in selfishness and self-delusion, since despite very delibrately rejecting the accepted heterosexual family and indeed parodying it, they feel ‘incomplete’.

Instead of doing the obvious; going their separate ways then entering into what the rest of the world considers and knows to be a normal heterosexual relationship, and raising any resultant off-spring with male and female parents, (as intended) they then conform to the accepted means of acquiring a ‘family’ – resulting in the arrival of a human baby over which they can now play faux-‘mummy’ and ‘daddy’ and pretend that they are ‘normal’ – despite the fact that they aren’t and never will be.

But hey, it’s OK, ’cause now they feel ‘complete’

As I said, the ultimate in selfishness – and all to make them feel ‘like a real family’. (and after all wasn’t there a book in NZ primary schools some years ago titled ‘Susan (?) has two Mummies’ so it must be all right.)

I personally feel very, very sorry for the child and must wonder what sort of distorted view of life he will grow up with.

As I said, FWIW – something to consider – greed and selfishness comes in many different forms . . .
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August 19, 2009 9:08pm
big bruv

Phool

If you really think what Chavez is doing is welcomed by everybody then you are even more deluded than i thought, as pointed out by others, all Chavez has done is steal other people’s property and hand it out to parasites like yourself.

Chavez may have been elected (I suspect with huge election rigging) but since then he has outlawed all opposition, he has silenced anybody who speaks out against him and basically bankrupted the country.

It WILL end in tears Phool, the people simply will not stand for it.

As for your “green revolution” in NZ…..you really are dreaming, most Kiwi’s do not believe in climate change and even those who do are not of the opinion that wealth exchange is a way to combat it.

Times will continue to be tough for you Phool, as the recession bites the average Kiwi will no longer put up with your lifestyle, we are starting to see it already, the working man has had enough, indeed, the only revolution you will see in your lifetime is the ‘revolution” driven by the public that sees a major shake up (dismantling) of our parasitic welfare state.

It cant come quick enough if you ask me.
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August 19, 2009 9:08pm
philu

well…that was just absolute crap there..eh hurf..?

not really worthy of any response..eh..?

just mindless slagging..

that’s all you righties have/can do..eh..?

you are intellectually totally bereft..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 9:11pm
philu

and komata..

thought you’d strut yr pig-ignorance..eh..?

..well..you succeeded..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 9:13pm
sbk

..and has overseen a massive transfer of wealth..(in what was one of the most inequitable countries..)..to his comrades,brothers,sisters,cousins,second cousins,third cousins and not forgetting in-Laws..?
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August 19, 2009 9:15pm
Hurf Durf

Awww, baby phool doesn’t know what to say.

Don’t worry, mummy shall be here soon and you will have a story.
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August 19, 2009 9:17pm
philu

bb..these changes will be driven by the ever more apparant environmental degradation imperatives..

btw..are you happy that farmers have poisoned 90% of our inland waterways..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 9:17pm
philu

hurf..please point out what in yr comment was serious enough to warrant a reply..

and i will be happy to reply to it..

btw..how old are you..?

(you can say..you are anonymous..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 9:21pm
Hurf Durf

All of them.
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August 19, 2009 10:20pm
philu

if you want to be taken seriously..write seriously..

not that drivel..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 10:26pm
Hurf Durf

Refute it then, instead of spitting your dummy out because for once you’re dealing with people who think Piggy Chavez isn’t hot shit.
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August 19, 2009 10:30pm
philu

meh..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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August 19, 2009 10:49pm
Hurf Durf

Coward.
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August 19, 2009 11:11pm
racer1

“andrei
It occurs in nature

So do infanticide, incest, rape and cannibalism don’t make any of them right”

So natural doesn’t always mean something is right, but un-natural always means it is wrong. good logic, idiot.

Surprise surprise, really, it’s cause you lot hate fags (and niggers, and muslims, and bukkas and so on and so forth), any reasoning as to why is purely secondary. So when you say, gay couples only want to adopt as a political statement, just remember, you only want to prevent it to make a political statement. Your arguments are not worth shit, simple as that.
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August 19, 2009 11:49pm
racer1

And putting an 80kw limit on new drivers is stupid.

As any motorcyclists would know, the 250cc limit has a massive distortional effect on the market.

Bugger all newer cars have less than 80kw, which would result in much more people driving dangerous cars.

80kw is more than enough to get yourself up to a speed where you can kill yourself or someone else.
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August 19, 2009 11:57pm
tom hunter

What is going on with the fucking De Lorean!!!
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