General Debate 28 January 2011

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Monty

First week of the election campaign coming to a close – I give the score as Key 2; Goff -1 (would have been zero except for his “Hairgate”

Dragons
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January 28, 2011 8:03am
Rodders

Looks like Hone has a new minder, his charming sister Hinewhare.

http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/harawira-vows-stick-maori-party-4008198/video?vid=4008743
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January 28, 2011 8:03am
All_on_Red

“Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds
Himalayan glaciers are actually advancing rather than retreating, claims the first major study since a controversial UN report said they would be melted within quarter of a century.”

“Dr Bodo Bookhagen, Dirk Scherler and Manfred Strecker studied 286 glaciers between the Hindu Kush on the Afghan-Pakistan border to Bhutan, taking in six areas.
Their report, published in the journal Nature Geoscience, found the key factor affecting their advance or retreat is the amount of debris – rocks and mud – strewn on their surface, not the general nature of climate change.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8284223/Himalayan-glaciers-not-melting-because-of-climate-change-report-finds.html

Will we see this reported in the Herald or on Stuff? Doubt it.
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January 28, 2011 8:09am
jcuknz

Jesus has been evicted claims Catholic writer …
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/27/opinion/27kristof.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212
…. Dogma versus humanity.

The worse thing about religion is the church. anon.
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January 28, 2011 8:13am
Murray

Personal charm is a feature of the family DNA Rodders.
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January 28, 2011 8:14am
Adolf Fiinkensein

From the Herald:-

Mr Ross was elected to the Manukau City Council in 2004. On the new Auckland Council, he is co-leader of the right-wing Citizens & Ratepayers group and is the youngest councillor.

Also last night, the Labour Party chose Michael Wood, a member of the Puketapapa Local Board, as its candidate for the byelection.
Mr Wood, a former union organiser, was Labour’s candidate in Pakuranga in 2002 and 2005.

A born loser versus a consistent winner.
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January 28, 2011 8:14am
Murray

The worst thing about athiests is their evangelical campaign to gather membership.
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January 28, 2011 8:15am
Mr Robert Black

Why do I get the impression Hone and his followers don’t hold the interests of pakeha and racial harmony in New Zealand close to their hearts?

Call it a hunch.

Nice dress by the way Hine.
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January 28, 2011 8:17am
big bruv

Rodders

Thanks for the link….I have never seen such a collection of losers in one place, I wonder how much that lot costs us in benefits?
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January 28, 2011 8:18am
big bruv

Adolf

Has Ross ever had a real job?
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January 28, 2011 8:19am
LC

I see that a special levy is to be raised in Oz to help with the Queensland flooding rebuilding. Two rates depending on whether you uearn over $50k or $100k.

The middle class saving socialist politicians – again.
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January 28, 2011 8:21am
ciaron

How was that hui?, with Flavel stating: I wasn’t invited. Priceless!
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January 28, 2011 8:22am
big bruv

If Hone’s real name is John Hatfield, I wonder what his sisters real name is?
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January 28, 2011 8:26am
tom hunter

Two Obama notes for a laugh.

First, it turns out that superbrain did not confer with six of his cabinet for two years!. He did not even phone them. I loved this quote from a Dem insider:

What you had was really three or four people running the entire government,” says the former White House strategist. “I thought they put a pretty good Cabinet together, but most of those guys might as well be in the witness-protection program.”

What an incompetent, arrogant SOB Obama is!

I guess what the LA Times said on New Year’s Eve might turn out to be true:

…the success of Obama’s presidency hinges more and more on the negotiating skills and political instincts of his No. 2.

Muhahahahaha
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January 28, 2011 8:29am
All_on_Red

NZ journalists are totally useless and lazy.
Contrast this:
“Reviews last year of a scandal over scientists’ leaked emails correctly ruled out data manipulation and showed it was time for climate science to move on, a panel of UK lawmakers say.”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/4578420/Climategate-data-manipulation-rejected

With this:
“Two inquiries into claims that scientists manipulated data about global warming were condemned by MPs as ineffective and too secretive. MPs on the Science and Technology Committee have now concluded that both probes into the scandal had failed to “fully investigate” claims that scientists had deleted embarrassing emails.”
Lord Oxburgh appeared to have a “conflict of interest” because of his links to green businesses while the Emails Review panel included a former Climate Research Unit scientist.“We are now left without a clear understanding of whether or not the CRU science is compromised.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/225108/MPs-slam-secretive-Climategate-probes
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January 28, 2011 8:33am
KiwiGreg

“the right-wing Citizens & Ratepayers group ”

Hahahahahahahahaha
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January 28, 2011 8:37am
Offshore_Kiwi

LC (8.21am) the flood levy has caused a massive backlash, certainly in Melbourne where I live. During the bushfires a couple of years ago Australians were incredibly generous in sending money and practical items to Victorians. During the floods Victorians have reciprocated that generosity; stories of people writing cheques for many thousands of dollars are not uncommon.

For Fanta Pants Gillard to introduce a new tax while refusing to stop or even delay her white-elephant, no-business-case $50 billion broadband project is an insult, and people are extremely angry. The 2 independents who hold the government together are, of course, holding out for their slice of pork. The greens are pissed off that all the spending that has been cut is to green programs (cash for clunkers, carbon capture & storage fantasies, etc.) so there’s no guarantee they’ll support the legislation in the Senate.

People are really, really angry that this communist has introduced this unneeded new tax. It’s sure gonna be a bumpy ride!
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January 28, 2011 8:46am
Offshore_Kiwi

And KiwiGreg, you said it so much better than I could have. 🙂
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January 28, 2011 8:47am
Falafulu Fisi

Fraud, Fraud, Fraud – (Obama’s Birth Certificate)

Apparently, according to Dr. Manning (from the video), is that Fox News (Beck, O’Reilly, et al) are part of covering up Obama’s non-existent US birth certificate.
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January 28, 2011 8:48am
Murray

“right-wing” is “journalism” code for we don’t like them and we don’t want you to vote for them.

“Journalism” is code for what usless polytech dropouts do instead of getting a real job or becoming actuall journalists and moving to Australia.
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January 28, 2011 8:49am
Manolo

The infighting among the racists continue. Long live their internal strife!

Maori Party leaders have decided to start disciplinary action against MP Hone Harawira.

Te Tai Tokerau electorate yesterday held a hui that was meant to discuss the complaint but as key critics were not invited ended up being a support rally for Mr Harawaira which called for the complaint to be dismissed.

Radio New Zealand reported this morning that the national council had decided not to hold another hui, which had been an option, but to start disciplinary proceedings.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/4592057/Maori-Party-to-discipline-Hone-Harawira
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January 28, 2011 8:56am
Pauleastbay

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4591076/Man-who-threatened-to-kill-plans-move-to-NZ

All he has to do is land rip up his passport an say the Canadian system and his parents were picking on him, instant citizenship
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January 28, 2011 9:01am
Mr Robert Black

I couldn’t vote for Hone even if I wanted to, as I am pakeha.

Not allowed.

Saves me the decision at least.

Cause I know it would be a tough one.

Sleepless nights over that one.
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January 28, 2011 9:01am
Falafulu Fisi

Ron Paul was Right

If there is a Republican candidate who is a morph between Ron Paul’s Austrian economics and John Bolton’s foreign policy ideologies for 2012 presidential election, a definite winner I say, then US will become great again.
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January 28, 2011 9:11am
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2011/obama-barraged-by-pot-questions-for-upcoming-youtube-town-hall/

…President Barack Obama plans to take questions from YouTube viewers Thursday afternoon –

– and for the third time in as many years – the overwhelmingly most popular query involves the legalization of marijuana.

Of the top 100 most popular questions as rated by YouTube users, 99 are about the drug war or pot.

Of the next one hundred, 99 are again about drug policy.

Somehow, two questions about clean energy made their way into the top 200.

The pot questions don’t stop there, but HuffPost stopped counting deep into the 200s – as the president is unlikely to answer all of them.

If past history is any guide – he may not answer any of them…”

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 9:13am
Offshore_Kiwi

And just like that, at 9.13am, the GD for 28 January 2011 heads for the toilet.
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January 28, 2011 9:15am
malcolm

The worst thing about athiests [sic] is their evangelical campaign to gather membership.

All that effort to kill 200 million and we don’t even get the credit!
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January 28, 2011 9:17am
Manolo

Good on these brave people. Pity they didn’t hit the bastards in the head.

A dairy owner and his wife fended off armed robbers with tins of coconut cream and a bottle of Sparkling Lime.

Milesh Kumar says he always thought he would follow the correct protocol and let robbers take whatever they wanted, but when he heard his wife scream, he couldn’t help but react.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10702479
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January 28, 2011 9:18am
Manolo

Offshore Kiwi, are you referring to the baker of the fragrant fresh batch just out of the oven?
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January 28, 2011 9:20am
Manolo

A good, tough judge setting an example:

Taggers should expect to be sent to jail, says Judge Tony Adeane. In the Hastings District Court Eddy Nils Brynildsen, 19, was sentenced to 200 hours’ community work for tagging two power boxes. He was told his next tagging offence would result in jail.

The judge said he was determined to deter taggers, despite being criticised for jailing an “imbecile” tagger who defaced a private residence in 2008.

“I think an MP called me a dickhead in Parliament,” he said. (The MP was Hone Harawira. He later apologised.)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=10702497
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January 28, 2011 9:22am
Murray

The second worst thing is their anal spellnazi aspect.
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January 28, 2011 9:23am
Viking2

Govt puts financial muscle behind mussel project
4:48 PM Thursday Jan 27, 2011

The Government is shelling out $200,000 towards a scheme to recycle mussel shells.
C/- Mad Nick

And Yet

Huge bill for leaky schools
AMANDA FISHER
Last updated 05:00 28/01/2011

CHRIS SKELTON/The Dominion Post

BEYOND THE LIMIT: Brooklyn principal Liz Rhodes says a ministry report took six months longer than hoped, and the 10-year limit had expired.

The Government is facing a $1.5 billion bill to fix leaky school buildings – and Education Minister Anne Tolley says the soaring cost is keeping her awake at night.

“I wake up in the middle of the night and think, ‘God, what am I going to do, we can’t pay for it,”‘ she said yesterday.

Estimates have put the bill at a minimum of $1.5b.

“We have just scratched the surface” of how many schools would be affected, she said. The Government had previously spent $40 million on repair work – with more scheduled this year – but 157 schools still need work. Of these, six are in Wellington.

“There just isn’t the money to go out and borrow one-and-a-half-billion dollars and start repairing schools,” Mrs Tolley said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/4591094/Huge-bill-for-leaky-schools

Do we think the Govt. has lost its way in the mire and lacks a clear plan to raise NZ from the swamp?

Do we have the leadership to actaully sort this mess. Has the Leader the nuts to sack those in his party that created this fiasco?

Seemingly not.
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January 28, 2011 9:23am
MyNameIsJack

up Obama’s non-existent US birth certificate.
Murray (6,799) Says:

January 28th, 2011 at 8:49 am
“Journalism” is code for what usless polytech dropouts do instead of getting a real job or becoming actuall journalists and moving to Australia.

Murray, nice to see you learning, evan at your age.

Sarah Palin holds a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism
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January 28, 2011 9:23am
grumpyoldhori

Mr Robert Black , another visitor to NZ no doubt, not native born were you.
Do not like the way things are done in NZ no problem, you can just fuck off.
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January 28, 2011 9:24am
Fletch

Sarah Palin features in a new comic book ‘Steampunk Palin’ in which she fights Big Oil. It also features eight pages of pinups of the former beauty queen.. LOL

Va-va-voom!

You might also remember Barrack The Barbarian from a little while ago.

Obama and Palin also featured recently in Archie Comics.
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January 28, 2011 9:26am
philu

(re the manolo-comment @ 9.20.am..

i placed the following request to david farrar the day before yesterday…”

“..# philu (9,438) Says:
January 26th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

“..[DPF: 10 demerits for auto-eroticist]..”

cd i plse put in a formal request for demerits for manolo…

..he continues to accuse me of being a ‘p’ cook…

..which is a gross slander..

..i want you to make him stop that…

..(i think this is the third time i have asked you to do something about this…

..are you clear on that..and what my formal request is..?)

..and while we are at it…

..the douchebag cnuts you let say anything at all to me..?

..with never a fucken murmer from you..

..and you fucken demerit me for saying auto-eroticist’..?

..i’m not asking you..

i’m fucken telling you..

..to demerit manolo..or do whatever you have to to stop his constant/repeated gross slander..

..and tell him if he fucken says that again..you will ban him..

cos..y’know..calling someone a ‘p’ cook is ever so slightly slanderous…eh..?

i am eligible for legal aid..eh..?..are you..?

i cd handle the publicity…eh..?..cd you…?

i am formally asking you to use yr powers to stop someone grossly slandering me…

..in yr forum…

..be very clear on that..

(and wd ask you not to just ignore this request..as you have on the other occaisons i have made this same request..)

shall we have a test-case..?

..set the boundaries..?..see what they are..?

i’m up for it..eh..?

..are you..?

d’ya reckon calling a recovering heroin addict (20 yrs clean)…who has been vocal in his hatred of ‘p’..

..and what it does to people/users…a ‘p’-cook…

..could be deemed slanderous..?

i await yr response…

..(and..um..!..i’m not fucken kidding…eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)…”

(i wd note that in his 9.20am comment..manolo is referring to his long-term libel…that i am a ‘p’-cook…

..i wd ask that you..david farrar…order him to cease and desist…)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

(i wd also note that ‘fuck off bitch!’ from a rightwing commenter last night…recieves not a murmer from you..)

[DPF: Phil – can you not read English. I have stated dozens of times that if you wish a comment to come to my attention for possible demerits is to e-mail a link to it it to the kiwiblogabuse address. I do not read all comments made on this blog, so you whining about me not acting on a comment I never read is idiotic. Follow the process]
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January 28, 2011 9:35am
TimG_Oz

Fletch .. get with the play …. I commented on Steampunk Palin on Monday!!
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January 28, 2011 9:35am
tom hunter

Apart from the “WTF” moments in Obama’s useless speech (hat tip on that zinger to Palin), there was also his “Sputnik” moment. I liked this blogger’s comment on that:

Which generation’s Sputnik moment is this, again? If we’re fated to work with metaphors from the middle of the twentieth century, let’s at least choose one that resonates with people who are coming of age in the twenty-first.

Say, perhaps, the Hitler Finds Out metaphor. From the vantage of the young, for the President — and, indeed, virtually the entire leadership class of the United States of America — this is their Stalingrad moment: the moment at which the vast armies they continue to maneuver around the gigantic battle map turn out to be gone, destroyed, never to return again. The bold challenges, the arbitrary and random numerical goalposts (80% more of these, 100,000 more of those) — it all gave off the disconnected feel of denial-driven fantasy. It’s not that the emperor has no clothes. It’s that he has no divisions.

But apart from such stinging comments there was also this hard truth – which could apply equally well to NZ:

Young Americans already face a future defined by an inescapable reckoning. They already tend to look at our grand entitlements as phantoms, as dead entitlements walking. They already know the problem isn’t that we have too few college graduates, but that we — like Tunisia and (gasp!) China, to mention a few — have too many for the market to absorb.
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January 28, 2011 9:36am
James Stephenson

All he has to do is land rip up his passport an say the Canadian system and his parents were picking on him, instant citizenship

Not to worry, in all probability he’s white and English-speaking so there’ll be no special favours.
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January 28, 2011 9:39am
Fletch

TimG, sorry I’ve been away at the beach 🙂
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January 28, 2011 9:40am
big bruv

Ha ha…looks like our beneficiary bludger Phool is a little upset this morning.

Simple way to fix that Phool, get off your arse and find a bloody job, the rest of us are sick of paying for your lifestyle.
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January 28, 2011 9:43am
grumpyoldhori

Bloody hell Sharples has got things so bloody wrong.
Agreeing on an tax break for the well paid, well that was a bloody good look from a well paid minister.

And he does not get it about the foreshore , unless we have total equality ie fee simple the Maori I know would prefer ALL the foreshore to be in crown hands with no bloody exceptions for any, even those who are a whiter shade of pale.

And no, no bloody compensation for any bugger who loses foreshore to the crown.

And the biggest laugh is pakeha suggesting a bloke from a central iwi stand against Hone, there will be two losers in that, the Maori party and the Nats.
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January 28, 2011 9:44am
RightNow

Ban Ki Moon sees the writing on the wall for the global taxing scam

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jan/27/ban-ki-moon-un-climate-change-talks
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January 28, 2011 9:47am
philu

no…i was really upset when i wrote that..

..i am still upset…but now even colder…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 9:48am
grumpyoldhori

James Stephenson white, English speaking, of course he will be given a special favour like all North Americans should be given, dropped off the wharf.
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January 28, 2011 9:50am
RightNow

phlu that’s hilarious you crying over someone calling you names. Man up or shut up
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January 28, 2011 9:50am
Bevan

The middle class saving socialist politicians – again

It aint gonna save them mate. Gillard will be gone, either before or at the next election.
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January 28, 2011 9:53am
Pauleastbay

Grumpy

Do yo have any affilliation to any Iwi with a foreshore, or are you stuck with a couple of poxy lakes with imported fish in them?
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January 28, 2011 9:54am
philu

it is not just ‘names’..names are one thing…

it is repeated/serial-accusations that i am a ‘p’-cook…

..(that i have repeatedly asked the commenter and farrar…to stop…

…farrars’ response has been silence..ignoring my (i think quite reasonable requests..)..

…and to never demur…as the commenter (often multiple times in any given day)..

..just continues to repeat..

..you wd be quite cool about someone repeatedly making that allegation against you..?

..in one of the biggest public forums in the country..?

..eh..?

(especially..as in my case…as a recovering heroin addict..who has done jail time from that addiction..

..being especially vulnerable to such accusations being taken as fact..by readers..)

farrar cd have stopped this at any time…

..which is why he is as responsible as the author..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

[DPF: Again stop being a moron. I have stated dozens of times the process to draw comments to my attention which is to e-mail a link to the specific comment to the kiwiblogabuse address. Again I do not read all comments made on this blog as there are so many of them. follow the process laid down.]
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January 28, 2011 9:58am
RightNow

well to be honest phil, that 9.20 comment looked more to me like a reference to you spouting crap than calling you a p cook
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January 28, 2011 10:04am
James Stephenson

There you are Phil, you’ve got equal billing on your right-of-reply, I think that’s all our host really owes you.

Nothing to say on the allegations that you’re a bludging magpie who should get a job then?

Edit: and I thought the 9.20 comment was a reference to baking that might include THC as an ingredient. Does “p” manufacture actually use an oven? (/ignorance)
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January 28, 2011 10:04am
Rodders

philu, as the proverb says – “if you can’t stand the heat…”
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January 28, 2011 10:06am
Inventory2

@ Phil; unlike some who we could name (but won’t) DPF has a job, and he has noted many times that he does not read every comment posted here.

And as Right Now suggests, there is a certain irony over you complaining about abuse, when you sprinkle it about yourself so liberally..

..eh..?
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January 28, 2011 10:06am
Manolo

philu, if you can’t stand the heat…

Wear a thicker apron, one of the oven-proof kind. 🙂
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January 28, 2011 10:08am
James Stephenson

Rodders – thanks, coffee in my keyboard now.
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January 28, 2011 10:09am
tom hunter

Sheesh – guys – RIP is your friend. Please – stop responding to that waste of space.
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January 28, 2011 10:10am
Offshore_Kiwi

Manolo (9.20am) yes. And I think the subsequent commentary proves my point.

Manolo (9.22am) Judge Adeane is proving himself one of the few on the bench who is not a total panty-waist. He won the WhaleOil Judge of the Week Award recently (http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/2011/01/20/judge-of-the-week-tony-adeane/) as well, for jailing some piece of brown turd who swore at him in Court.

No wonder John Hatfield hates him. He holds the natives to the same standard as everyone else, and that’s a rare thing in the Democratic People’s Republic of The Wrong Brown Cheque Book these days.

Oh and hori, if you don’t like the way you and yours have been forced to become civilised, your lot should have eaten the colonists when you had the chance. You’re in a very small minority now so Shut The Fuck Up with your victim mentality, get your head out of your arse and your hand out of my pocket.
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January 28, 2011 10:11am
Manolo

Not very kind commentary on the Messiah’s recent speech:

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, what can be said of plagiarism? President Obama’s second State of the Union address contained enough recycled ideas and lines lifted from speeches of others to make historians wince.

I suppose this is what one does when one not only has nothing new to say, but is required by custom and Constitution to come forth with a report of some kind by a certain time and day.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/alvin-felzenberg/2011/01/26/obamas-state-of-the-union-was-tantamount-to-plagiarism
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January 28, 2011 10:12am
RightNow

tom, no RIP for chrome that I know of (and I can’t help slowing down to gawk when I go past a car crash)
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January 28, 2011 10:15am
RRM

@ Fletch – I don’t agree with much that you post up, but those Palin / Obama comics are a great find!

Apparently some people get a lot more jollies out of American politics than I do…
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January 28, 2011 10:15am
tom hunter

Yeah – same when I’m stuck on IE at a client’s.

Oh well. Let’s hope OSH are okay with the scrolling finger syndrome. I’d only slow down to gawk if the entire NZ Air Force was crash landing into a LPG facility. 😉
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January 28, 2011 10:18am
Offshore_Kiwi

Tom, what do you mean the entire NZ Air Force? A clapped-out Hercules, a DC3, 2 Orions and a Tiger Moth? I s’pose even that kind of strike wing could cause a fairly big splat at an LPG facility.
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January 28, 2011 10:26am
Inventory2

DPF to Philip Ure

[DPF: Again stop being a moron. I have stated dozens of times the process to draw comments to my attention which is to e-mail a link to the specific comment to the kiwiblogabuse address. Again I do not read all comments made on this blog as there are so many of them. follow the process laid down.]

Cut him some slack DPF. Comments on Whoar are so rare that Phil probably prints them out and frames them. He must be insanely jealous of you 🙂
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January 28, 2011 10:35am
Mr Robert Black

“grumpyoldhori (1,666) Says:

January 28th, 2011 at 9:24 am

Mr Robert Black , another visitor to NZ no doubt, not native born were you.
Do not like the way things are done in NZ no problem, you can just fuck off.”

Yeah, unlike you hori, I am not 100% NZ.

You, on the other hand must be Moriori at least.

Oh, don’t tell me your ancestors originated from those murdering cannibals washed down from the north then let me guess, your great grand mother took a shine to a white boy and…many years later produced you, a shining example of a 100% true bred, true blood Kiwi?

Me, I came here in 1973 aged 8.

But I aint no Moriori, so you got me there big fella.

Is that Hone’s answer to the problems of NZ?

Tell all non-100% Kiwis to fuck off?

I think some people call that the brain drain and actually know that is detrimental to the current NZ economy.

Of course, you being a full blooded Moriori an all, you will be still bitter about the beautiful nation being stolen by cannibal invaders from the north and the extinction of the race and Moas and so on by that evil race called the Maori.

Or are you just a racist half-breed with a hang-up, kind of in the Hone mould?

With an anti-white, anti-Asian itch to scratch?

Kind of like a Neo-Nazi in reverse.

Racism exists from any coloured skin hori.

🙂
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January 28, 2011 10:37am
philu

i have never accused anyone of ongoing serious criminal activity..

..which is being done to me…

…and the accusation is about the most-reviled way of making money..

…(pushing/manufacturing the most dangerous drug…

…the one that fucks people the most…)

i wd note i have never used ‘p’..and aside from tv reports..

..i have never seen the crap…

..back in my drug-daze ..in another time..in another place..

…i had a reasonably serious relationship with crack-cocaine..(of which ‘p’ is the poor/more-deadly cousin..)

..but ‘p/speed’ came after my times in that world…

and i have been somewhat amazed at its’ popularity…

..after all..the sixties warning..’speed kills’..is a truism..

..given how it fucks yr head so much..

..it is like alcohol in that sense..)

and i was fortunate early on in my heroin addiction..

..to meet a 35 yr old speed-freak…who had been hooked/heavily-using…for about ten years…

..and was a physical/mental wreck…

…(and was a de-frocked catholic priest..as it turns out..de-frocked for his addiction..the people ya meet..eh..?…)..

..and he took a shine to me…and gave me a long detailed description of the horrors that had got him to where he was..

..it was a version of ‘scared-straight’ for me….

..and entrenched my loathing of that drug…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 10:37am
Mr Robert Black

Tell me hori, if your “race” is from New Zealand why don’t you like the cold?

If any race does not belong or fit in New Zealand it is the Maori race.

At least the Poms can handle the cold and rain.

Go back to wherever the storm washed you down from.

You belong there not here.
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January 28, 2011 10:52am
Grendel

No one cares phil.

rather than RIP, i wonder if there is a firefox addon that just changes all the text in someones post to TLDR, which is to be honest what everyone does with Phils posts, unless they are bored and like poking a badger 🙂
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January 28, 2011 10:54am
Mr Robert Black

All the Maori bring to NZ is violence, greed, excuses, uncontrolled addiction, domestic violence, tribal hate and in fighting (see the Maori party) racism, laziness, benefit bludging and occasionally a few good rugby players.
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January 28, 2011 10:57am
Manolo

The duplicity of some American unions is mind-boggling.
They push for Obamacare, but ask for waivers at the same time. If it is so good, why don’t they embrace the Messiah’s plan?

While the Democrats continued to extol Obamacare and the president defended the behemoth law during the Date of the Union, HHS was quietly presiding over a massive Obamacare Waiver-mania explosion.

The list is now at 729 — plus four states (Massachusetts, New Jersey, Ohio, and Tennessee). Among the many new union refugees are four new SEIU locals :
-SEIU Health and Welfare fund, 2000 with 161 enrollees;
-Service Employees 32BJ North Health Benefit Fund* representing 7020;
-SEIU Local 300, Civil Service Forum Employees Welfare Fund representing 2000 enrollees;
-SEIU Health & Welfare Fund representing 1620.

This is in addition to the three other previous SEIU waiver winners: Local 25 SEIU in Chicago with 31,000 enrollees; Local 1199 SEIU Greater New York Benefit Fund with 4544; and SEIU Local 1 Cleveland Welfare Fund with 520 enrollees.

Which brings the total number of Obamacare-promoting SEIU Obamacare escapees to an estimated 45,000 workers represented by seven SEIU locals.

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/26/the-real-snow-job-in-d-c-obamacare-waivers-skyrocket-to-729-4-states/
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January 28, 2011 11:01am
Mr Robert Black

I aint no Neo-Nazi, my gf is Chinese.

But you attack me with racism you get it back.

The time for pussy footing around racist Maoris is over.

All hail Mike Laws.

He was the first to have the balls to stand up to them.

Others will follow.

16% isn’t it?

What is there to fear but political correctness?

I fucking hate political correctness.

If some Maori racist half-breed c*** tells you to fuck off from the country you grew up in and paid taxes in (like ten times his to support his whanau on benefits) then don’t hold back for political correctness.

We all know what they are, how racist they are, what their long-term plan is.

The days for holding back is over!
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January 28, 2011 11:09am
iMP

Robert Black, your comment is racist hatred. You can say the same thing about some non-Maori, it has nothing to do with ethnicity or race. NZ is less of a place for attitudes like yours. Shame on you.
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January 28, 2011 11:10am
Diziet Sma

Lol, nearly missed this from 26th
Me

Can Manolo, Johnboy, starboard, Viking2 & friends state which political Party they support?

Viking2

None of your fucking business. That’s the point about politics in this so far free country. You don’t have to tell anyone else, not even your wife, who you choose to vote for.
If you don’t understand that freedom of choice and don’t like it because it is not like what you believe or where you came from fuck of out of NZ.

Woah ragey guy dude. Don’t ask Viking2 about his favoured Political Party, on a mainly Political Blog, or he might fly into a nonsensical Bezerker Rage. Well I guess you are a Wild Internet Viking. I mean, you’ve got ‘Viking’ in your name eh. Suppose you wear a Viking Helmet while you punch out your dull, hateful dribble into you’re keyboard. A very convincing performance.
A Wife (someone you don’t have to tell): “Can you pick up some milk please?”
Viking2 (A Wild Anonymous Internet Viking Guy): “I DON’T HAVE TO TELL YOU! IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND FREEDOM OF CHOICE & DON’T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE OR WHERE YOU CAME FROM FUCK OF OUT OF NZ!”

I hope the Maori Party & National Party are paying you guys well. You’re the best marketing they could ever have.
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January 28, 2011 11:14am
big bruv

“..to meet a 35 yr old speed-freak…who had been hooked/heavily-using…for about ten years…

..and was a physical/mental wreck…”

Phool….it is always about you isn’t it, what about the poor bastard who you bashed and robbed?

I have nothing but contempt for people like you Phool, get off your lazy arse and get a job.
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January 28, 2011 11:17am
Manolo

I hope the Maori Party & National Party are paying you guys well. You’re the best marketing they could ever have.

As a Banks’ female character, do you care to elaborate?
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January 28, 2011 11:19am
Mr Robert Black

OK IMP so this one is OK?

Not offensive, not racist:

“grumpyoldhori (1,666) Says:

January 28th, 2011 at 9:24 am

Mr Robert Black , another visitor to NZ no doubt, not native born were you.
Do not like the way things are done in NZ no problem, you can just fuck off.”

Ok so let me guess, you are objective on this issue?
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January 28, 2011 11:22am
philu

“…the poor bastard who you bashed..”

i have never bashed anyone…you lying piece of shit…

..my last physical fight was in the schoolyard…

(what i went to jail for was robbing a chemist shop while going thru heroin withdrawals…

..nobody ‘bashed’ in any which way..

my criminal record (from the seventies..)reads..possesion of cannabis…robbery….posession of cannabis…

..no physical violence against anyone..ever…

..retract that…you lying piece of crap..

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 11:26am
Mr Robert Black

OK let’s review the comments, being a lawyer I like evidence not utu:

Here are the comments as they read:

1.Why do I get the impression Hone and his followers don’t hold the interests of pakeha and racial harmony in New Zealand close to their hearts?
Call it a hunch.
Nice dress by the way Hine.

2. I couldn’t vote for Hone even if I wanted to, as I am pakeha.
Not allowed.
Saves me the decision at least.
Cause I know it would be a tough one.
Sleepless nights over that one.

3.grumpyoldhori (1,666) Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Mr Robert Black , another visitor to NZ no doubt, not native born were you.
Do not like the way things are done in NZ no problem, you can just fuck off.

OK so let’s play spot the racist cunt here.
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January 28, 2011 11:28am
big bruv

Phool

“(what i went to jail for was robbing a chemist shop while going thru heroin withdrawals…

..nobody ‘bashed’ in any which way..”

OK….even allowing for the fact that you are a proven liar I will take your word that nobody was bashed.

However, it does not change anything I said, nowhere have you apologised for robbing the Chemist, nowhere have you apologised for scaring the living hell out of the man, it is always about YOU and your self inflicted heroin habit.

It seems to me that you think the Chemist was fair game, no doubt you see him as a capitalist and that your actions were justified, well Phool let me tell you they were not.

You have never taken responsibility for anything in your life it seems, not for your crimes (which are ongoing) nor the raising of your kids, like it or not Phool you are a parasite, a person who by his own words is fit and able to work but would rather live of the hard work of your fellow Kiwis.
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January 28, 2011 11:33am
Mr Robert Black

Jesus in China if those two guys had man handled the Chinese leader as the two MAORIS man-handled and let’s face it assaulted John Key, they would have been dead soon after with bullets in their heads.

We can learn from China.
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January 28, 2011 11:36am
philu

“..no doubt you see him as a capitalist and that your actions were justified, well Phool let me tell you they were not…”

you are quite the gold-plated pompous-fucken-moron..aren’t you..?

“..You have never taken responsibility for anything in your life it seems, not for your crimes (which are ongoing) nor the raising of your kids..”

my ongoing crimes..are smoking pot…

and i raised my daughter..now an adult….as a sole parent…

…and i have raised my (now teenage) son since his birth….

..once again….you lying piece of crap..

how many abandoned children/abortions litter yr life….?…

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 11:43am
RightNow

Offshore_Kiwi (438) Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 9:15 am
And just like that, at 9.13am, the GD for 28 January 2011 heads for the toilet.

How right you were
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January 28, 2011 11:46am
Mr Robert Black

Breakfast reporters getting worse, please kill them off and add people with at least a personality, maybe even character.
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January 28, 2011 12:00pm
RightNow

Oestrogen in water supply has mixed results: bigger boobs for women, declining sperm count in males:

“In 2002, research published by the Environment Agency showed that an ‘exquisitely potent’ form of oestrogen — which is believed to have entered the rivers through the urine of Pill and HRT-users — was responsible for changing the sex of half of all the male fish in British lowland rivers, and could be contaminating the water supply.
Now, it has been suggested that the influence of these xenoestrogens (literally ‘foreign oestrogens’) could be responsible for the rapid decline in male sperm count and fertility.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1350919/Why-ARE-womens-breasts-getting-bigger-The-answers-disturb-.html
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January 28, 2011 12:01pm
redeye

Is there an age limit on this blog?

I might be back in a week or so to see if the debate has moved out of the gutter. Until then…
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January 28, 2011 12:04pm
big bruv

Phool

The chance was there for you to tell us all that you are sorry for robbing the chemist, once again you failed to take that chance.
You chose to take heroin Phool, the chemist did not choose to be robbed and terrorised.

The fact that you continue to smoke pot proves that you have not stopped your life of crime, you also say that you raised your kids…big bloody deal, most of us do the same without committing crimes or bludging from the rest of society.

For some reason you seem to be suggesting that you have done well and that we should be applauding you, nothing could be further from the truth Phool, have you ever wondered how many working parents have lost precious time with their kids because they are working extra hours to support you?

Stop moaning and get a job Phool, how about doing your share for a change.
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January 28, 2011 12:08pm
philu

i repeat…

‘how many abandoned children/abortions litter yr life….?…’

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 12:18pm
dime

redeye – it is particularly trashy today!
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January 28, 2011 12:19pm
sbk

All-on-Red @ 8.33
“NZ journalists are totally useless and lazy”

…journalists ?…surely you jest sir.

…todays leftist leaning storytellers wouldnt know a real story even if it jumped up and slapped them in the face half a dozen times.
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January 28, 2011 12:23pm
big bruv

None Phool…

Now…how about apologising for a life of parasitic behaviour and for robbing and terrorising the chemist?

Or…do you not give a shit about the chemist?
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January 28, 2011 12:25pm
Lance

What redeye and dime wrote…

All we need now is an endless string of obscenities from RB and it will be complete.. sigh
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January 28, 2011 12:29pm
Yvette

Man who threatened to kill plans move to NZ

A Canadian businessman described as “likely to kill” and who held his own parents hostage says he is moving to New Zealand …
The “Harvard-educated Winnipeg businessman” aged in his 30s was sentenced earlier this week to three years of supervised probation for charges relating to threatening to kill his former wife and parents.
Those conditions would not apply if he left Canada, the report said. He has also spent time in prison.
According to the reports, the man had described himself as “a ticking time-bomb” and spoke of “holy war” and of carrying out massacres such as that carried out at Columbine High School where 14 people were killed by two armed pupils in 1999.
According to the prosecution, the man was “likely to kill” and his psychiatrist had said he refused to carry on his counselling, instead doing yoga …
“What happens is Immigration New Zealand need to look at the detail of that conviction and work out whether or not a person should be given a character waiver.”

Don’t let Keith Locke any where near this man . . .
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January 28, 2011 12:52pm
philu

http://whoar.co.nz/2011/could-bernanke-spark-a-run-on-the-dollar%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0/

“…Treasury yields are “blinking red” – but the Fed keeps acting like nothing’s wrong.

What’s the deal?

Let’s explain: Fed chairman Ben Bernanke’s bond purchasing program (QE2) has sent the yield on the 30-year Treasury skyrocketing.

At the same time, the the 2-year Treasury is stuck at a lowly 0.61.

That means, the “yield curve” between the two bonds has grown steeper –

– which normally happens at the beginning of a recovery because investors are moving out of “risk free” bonds to riskier assets like stocks.

Typically, the yield on the long-term bond will start to go down on its own because investors expect the Fed to raise short-term rates to curb potential inflation.

But that’s not happening this time.

Why?

And why should we care?

The reason we should care is because the yield curve is signaling one of two things; inflation or default.

What it is NOT signaling is a robust recovery.

Remember, the Fed’s main job is “price stability” which means keeping a lid on inflation.

When the yield on long-term bonds spikes – then it’s up to Bernanke to show the market he’ll do what’s necessary to fight inflation –

– that is, raise rates.

It’s a question of credibility.

But Bernanke isn’t interested in credibility.

In fact, he’s not only said that he will keep rates low for an “extended period of time”-

– but also pledged to continue his $600 QE2 program until there’s a “significant improvement in labor market.”

He was joined in his commitment by all of the active members of the FOMC.

Now, granted, QE2 has boosted stock prices –

– but the extra liquidity has also inflated commodities prices (making it harder on consumers) –

– and wreaked havoc in emerging markets –

– forcing trading partners to control capital flows – or raise rates to tamp down inflation.

But QE2’s greatest shortcoming is that is really doesn’t create jobs as advertised.

It’s just more supply side, “trickle down” monetary theory designed to goose the market – while workers languish in unemployment lines.

Here’s how the Wall Street journal’s Kelly Evans summed it up:

“…the limits of monetary policy are becoming clearer. History suggests any further easing probably would do too much for the stock market and asset prices, and too little for jobs.

The only real fix is to lower the cost of U.S. workers relative to foreign rivals and machines, or else raise their bang for the buck. The latter, while clearly preferable, requires education and training that won’t turn things around overnight.” (”The Fed’s Magic Show Appears to Be Over”, Wall Street Journal)

In other words, the Fed is planning to give every working man and woman in the US a big pay-cut so they can go nose-to-nose with foreign labor.

You can see how this blends seamlessly with Obama’s State of the Union Speech where he focused on “competition” as his central theme.

More importantly, Obama reiterated his pledge to double exports in the next 5 years.

The only way that can be achieved is by destroying the dollar.

Here’s a clip from an op-ed by Judy Shelton that explains what’s going on:…” (cont..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 12:58pm
Manolo

Did John Key speak to LaHood about wonderful cycleways and how good they are generating employment?

In May, Unite States Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood announced a new focus described by National Public Radio as “turning transportation policy on its head.”

Lahood’s declaration: that pedestrians and bicyclists should be treated as equals with drivers and that more federal dollars should be devoted to walking and cycling projects.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/27/obamas-platform-murky/
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January 28, 2011 1:17pm
Pete George

I think Palin still has a way to go to get this interviewing thing working credibly. Even in friendly territory she lacks a bit of finesse on her international knowledge and history, even regarding her close neighbour, Russia.

VAN SUSTEREN: Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is still with us. And Governor, last night there was a lot of discussion about the Sputnik moment that the president talked about. Do you agree with him? Do you — and is this our moment?

PALIN: That was another one of those WTF moments, when he so often repeated this Sputnik moment that he would aspire Americans to celebrate. And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.

http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/palin-obamas-state-union-sputnik-references-were-wtf-moments

It wasn’t Reagan who defeated the USSR after all, it was the Sputnik. WTF.
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January 28, 2011 1:22pm
cha

Former Republican member of the Alaska Legislature Andrew Halcro posts on the appeal of Sarah Palin.

Alaskan voters created Sarah Palin’s political career. We rewarded her shallow campaigns and soundbite governance with thanks and praise. We created a politician that only knew one note and that note was rewarded with high approval ratings which attracted John McCain. We rewarded her with the platform to get her to where she is today.

In a big way, we are responsible for Sarah Palin.

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January 28, 2011 1:40pm
philu

(deborah hill-cone has turned on you rightwing ratbags….)

http://whoar.co.nz/2011/rightwing-commentator-turns-on-those-she-professionally-brown-nosed-for/

“…Power elite look down on the rest of us – but they still want to be admired.

Well, tough.

I have gone off rich people.

I used to like them.

I spent years of my career as a professional brown-noser writing stories saying we should hero worship business tycoons –

– they create wealth and jobs – they work blimmin’ hard and are actually misunderstood little flowers in their superyachts, poor petals.

And now I am saying Eat the Tossers.

Or rather, let’s chow down on the super thermonuclear rich – who are another category entirely.

You might not be familiar with this uber-wealthy breed – as we don’t see many of this sort down here except for boring old Graeme Hart.

These are the sort who go to the billionaire jamboree in Davos, Switzerland.

They have private jets and four homes and say things like “Twenty [million] is only 10 after tax”.

These are the super-elite who made their own dosh – frequently from technology or financial jiggery pokery.

They are hard-working, highly educated meritocrats.

As Chrystia Freedland put it in an essay in The Atlantic, this “transglobal community of peers” feel they are the deserving winners of a tough, worldwide economic competition –

– and many of them, as a result, have an ambivalent, even dismissive, attitude towards the rest of us who didn’t succeed so spectacularly.

There is no allegiance to where they came from.

“Whether they maintain primary residences in New York or Hong Kong, Moscow or Mumbai, today’s super-rich are increasingly a nation unto themselves.”

Maybe we should stop hounding Amanda Hotchin –

– and focus on Hart instead – because only the galactically rich have the ability to be truly blithe about the little people.

Oh, I admit some of these innovators have contributed profoundly to civilisation and progress.

Granted, some of their products have improved the lives of millions of people.

But find a billionaire and dollars to donuts their empire will include some money-go-round gimmicks dreamed up on Wall Street.

And Wall Street doesn’t do jack shit for anyone.

Even Paul Volcker, the legendary former head of the Federal Reserve, has said:…

… “I wish someone would give me one shred of neutral evidence that financial innovation has led to economic growth – one shred of evidence.”

With ya Paul.

Waiting, waiting…” (cont..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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January 28, 2011 1:41pm
RightNow

“Or rather, let’s chow down on the super thermonuclear rich – who are another category entirely.”
Yeah phil, that’s us, the super thermonuclear rich. And when I’ve finished eating these babies I’m off to run over some beneficiaries in one of my Bugattis.
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January 28, 2011 1:53pm
Rodders

@RightNow – Have a look at the first comment posted after DHC’s Column.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10702313

LOL
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January 28, 2011 2:13pm
DJP6-25

All_on_Red 8;33 am. Don’t advancing glaciers mean ‘global cooling’? That’s what the ‘climate science’ people were predicting in the 70s. Quick. Ramp those carbon emissions up before we all freeze. -:)

cheers

David Prosser
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January 28, 2011 2:32pm
RightNow

Heh, nice. I wonder if there was some defining moment for DHC to make her feel this way. It seems to be a response to the uber-rich spending billions of dollars on philanthropic endeavours.
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