General Debate 1 June 2012

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Luc Hansen

It’s no surprise that Andrew Bolt’s mendacious writings would be right up your alley, kowtow.

But where is my mate, F E Smith? He seems to disappear these days when I pop up. I guess he’s not used to be held to account for his utterances.
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June 1, 2012 9:09pm
Luc Hansen

And pity the Irish, voting for Angela Merkel’s austerity (for all but Germany) treaty.
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June 1, 2012 9:13pm
Manolo

These extremist Saudis, followers of the barbaric “religion of peace”, are nothing but savages.
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June 1, 2012 9:18pm
kowtow

No pity.
Fringe Europe has lived off the German tax payer for 30 years now, enjoying a standard of living they don’t deserve as they haven’t worked for it.
Herman the German is entitled to call the shots.
At least it looks like the Paddies are prepared to take their medicine and to vote on it too.
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June 1, 2012 9:21pm
lilman

luc Hansen ,ooooo fuuuccccckkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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June 1, 2012 9:22pm
Manolo

As a good comrade, the socialist Luc is always behind bludgers and parasites.
True: the Germans have all the right to stop supporting the free-riders.
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June 1, 2012 9:25pm
Pete George

How long do you think they will be a minority?

Always. You are just so far behind it is tedious trying to educate you.

In the 2006 census 36,072 people identified themselves as Muslim including many New Zealand-born Muslims of varied ethnic backgrounds including both New Zealand European and Māori.

It’s a long way from there to two million. Even with “the breeding programme..10..12..14 children a piece.”

Do you know what the average Muslim family size is in New Zealand?
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June 1, 2012 9:31pm
F E Smith

Hey Luc,

Don’t confuse my ignoring you with my being unable to answer you. I have my opinion, and it is one shared by others here at KB. I do not have to spend any of my time justifying that opinion to you, nor do I intend to do so.

There are far more interesting things to do than pander to your sense of self-importance.

Like celebrating the Crusaders effort against the Highlanders thus evening. You can take the boy out of Canterbury, but… etc. etc.
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June 1, 2012 9:35pm
Other_Andy

Muslims in New zealand

1950 200 Muslims in New Zealand
1979 2000
2006 36,000
2012 40,000 (?) Muslims in New Zealand
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June 1, 2012 9:46pm
Pete George

FES – it was a weird game. Crusaders started ominously. Highlanders came back well. Whistle started to dominate. Crusaders blitzed. Half time. Then it seemed to be anything goes in the second half, the whistle seemed to have run out of puff.
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June 1, 2012 9:46pm
Luc Hansen

No worries F. E. Smith (or whatever your name is). I understand you now to be a man of no substance.

At least I can now rest easy that I have not presented anything that can be taken as anti-Semite.

And let me remind you, since your attention span is so short, you are the now who made the unprovoked slur. I simply responded with a polite request for substantiation of that gratuitous smear.

But don’t worry, as you point out, I am a victim of that slur from many on here who, just like you, cannot back it up with evidence.

You have just proven your honest opinion defense is laughable.
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June 1, 2012 9:56pm
kowtow

Food for thought. Have the electorates of the countries been consulted?How much change will it bring.Secularists should be especially afraid.

http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/01/31/number-of-muslims-in-canada-predicted-to-triple-over-next-20-years-study/
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June 1, 2012 9:58pm
Luc Hansen

lilman

I hear what you say. Your eloquence is truly inspiring.
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June 1, 2012 9:59pm
F E Smith

Luc,

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Luc ‘Victim’ Hansen. Sure thing, whatever you say.

PG,

Like you said, it was that last 10 minutes before half time made it for us. Until then I was thinking that the Highlanders were really going to hold in there and make it a close one. Given their record this year, if your lot stay close then they are a real danger later on. I never thought the score would blow out by that much, however.
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June 1, 2012 10:03pm
Hurf Durf

F E Smith, if you want something that makes Puke look bad, just remind him of the eight year old Afghan boy whose hanging by terrorists he justified.
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June 1, 2012 10:05pm
Luc Hansen

Still no substance, F.E. Smith.

I find this really funny. Here you have a golden opportunity to skewer me with your brilliance, and you weave and duck with the reflexes of Muhammed Ali in his prime.

Not a good man to share a foxhole with, I guess.
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June 1, 2012 10:08pm
Luc Hansen

Hurf, where have you been?

Still making things up, I see.
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June 1, 2012 10:09pm
Hurf Durf

Ah, you know how it is, Luc. Here. There. Up and around and back in time.

I only wish I made up such disgusting comments, alas. Truth is often stranger than fiction and, in this case, more contemptible.
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June 1, 2012 10:11pm
Luc Hansen

You are an expert in projection, Hurf.

Shame on you.
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June 1, 2012 10:16pm
slijmbal

On Fonterra

The rationale for asking for capital from external sources seems unusual.

Though frankly I would be really asking for capital to really push the Brands business unit. It is a reasonable copy of the play Shell had – they had an oil and a surprisingly large chemical division. The chemical division’s main material cost was oil so when oil dropped in price it made more money and when oil went up in price the oil side of the business made more money. It helped it smooth out ups and downs caused by oil price fluctuations.

Brands division is 25% of revenue at approx $4bn last time I looked and likely to have better margins and growth in the longer term than the current core business. With the right injection of capital Fonterra could start to compete with the Nestles of this world as the margins tend to be better in the value add side of the business.

So, must admit asking for capital just to cope with buy backs of shares seems a weird justification. I presume they’re trying to limit the amount of debt which is the normal way of coping.

I can see why they’re not asking farmers – never yet a farmer yet who was really flush with capital as was always buying next tractor or next farm etc.
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June 1, 2012 10:17pm
Hurf Durf

Projection? That’s a river in Egypt.

Or maybe Brazil. Or the isolated villages of Afghanistan where the Taliban hang children.

Enjoy the long weekend, Luc. 🙂
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June 1, 2012 10:21pm
Pete George

FES (if you are still here) – what is the law regarding protesting and blocking streets? Can you legally disrupt traffic if you are protesting?
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June 1, 2012 10:24pm
F E Smith

Luc,

I know that it is the inclination of most lefties to demand a detailed answer to a question that they pose and then, when we say ‘no, I can’t be bothered’ to then shriek ‘see, you can’t, that means I am right and you are stupid/a liar/worthless/deluded’ (and do on and so forth).

It doesn’t mean that at all. It means that I cannot be bothered! I know why I believe you are anti-Semitic and it is a conclusion that I am comfortable with, as I firmly believe it to be true. I have told you why twice now. If you think that you are getting a detailed set of examples, well, you are wrong.

Again, this dies not mean that I cannot, it means that I will not. Those are not the same thing.

But you can witter on you want. I don’t mind you being hysterical; I find it amusing.
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June 1, 2012 10:26pm
Luc Hansen

I will, Hurf. Thank you.

Can I look forward to more of your lies in the near future? You could tag team with FES.

After all, you both have the same modus operandi: slur, lie and run away!
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June 1, 2012 10:27pm
F E Smith

Pete,

Actually, I don’t know the exact and definite answer to that, but I would expect that you cannot unless you had a permit to do so.

A person can protest all that they want, but the laws of the land still apply to them.
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June 1, 2012 10:29pm
Luc Hansen

Me hysterical? Sheesh, look at yourself, sonny boy.

Just one example would give you some credibility, don’t you think?

It’s interesting watching the lawyers on here behaving badly (Graeme Edgeler being an honorable exception).

Maybe it’s the legal fraternity’s expression of the stir-crazy syndrome.
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June 1, 2012 10:32pm
thedavincimode

PG

Unless they also find out a Muslim was also a United Future candidate

Good thinking; you should get one of those. I imagine Keith Locke was actively trying to recruit some for the melons but clearly none were were interested however, they might be susceptible to Mr Dunne’s coiffure. 🙂
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