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May 15, 2014 7:42pm by David Farrar

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Very enjoyable rarking up by the PM. To be fair, here’s the Leader of the Opposition also.

A bit of a contrast.

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NZ Politics
Budget
David Cunliffe
John Key

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Judith

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Great choice on offer – a smart ass show off or a dull dry cardboard cut out.

Pity we can’t deport both of them – neither possesses the quality leadership this country needs.
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May 15, 2014 7:56pm
martinh

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The last thing id want to do would be to listen to either of these two shriekers..
If only Muldoon and Lange would come back for some proper wit and proper antagonism.

By the way that Aussie Pm is a more painful watch then these two by a long way
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May 15, 2014 8:08pm
cha

Yup, that there’s how you display dignity and respect for the position you hold.
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May 15, 2014 8:08pm
Rich Prick

When a Government gets to produce a budget like that, compared to the grim realities Australians are facing after the devastation brought upon them by Labor and the Greens (and a few independents) I think Key is entitled to have a bit of fun. Cunliffe would take us to where Australia has just been, and at the prospect of that, little wonder he was down and flat.
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May 15, 2014 8:10pm
big bruv

Great speech by the Prime Minister, full of facts, full of emotion and full of prospects for the future. The fact that the PM managed to put the boot into the stinking socialists and the equally stinking Greens just made it all the more enjoyable.
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May 15, 2014 8:11pm
gazzmaniac

Parliament in Australia was far more entertaining today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TsNL3uBw1g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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May 15, 2014 8:13pm
Rich Prick

gazzmaniac, but he did refer to the member of the opposition by his correct name!
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May 15, 2014 8:16pm
martinh

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Well the Pm didnt answer the question about housing on tv tonight. He just says its a supply issue. I dont like being lied to when those young kiwis were obviously suffering.
Disappointing man, disapointing he can treat people here like that.
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May 15, 2014 8:21pm
Steve (North Shore)

Great choice on offer – a smart ass show off or a dull dry cardboard cut out.

Pity we can’t deport both of them – neither possesses the quality leadership this country needs.

Judith for PM!
Prob wrong Judith – I meant the other one
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May 15, 2014 8:29pm
martinh

Gazz
That was incredible, im still amazed that that happened and the speaker only corrected him
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May 15, 2014 8:30pm
dime

one issue martin – youre painful.

Key – legend.
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May 15, 2014 8:40pm
alloytoo

Great performance by the PM gleefully demonstrating what a liar Cunliffe is.

Imagine, talking about children to poor to go to the doctor, after Bill English has just rolled out a program for up to 13 years old.
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May 15, 2014 8:43pm
mikemikemikemike

Soooo that whole engage respectfully thing doesn’t apply if they pay your wages?
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May 15, 2014 8:51pm
martinh

Dime
Cant handle my good points eh?
You are probably as easily excitable as DPF and listened to one or both speeches whole
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May 15, 2014 8:52pm
Redbaiter

“the PM managed to put the boot into the stinking socialists ”

National are spending $76 billion yet they aren’t socialists??

FFS, hopeless.
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May 15, 2014 8:57pm
martinh

At school gits like Key and Cunliffe were in the debating teams, geek nerds and now they think they are so clever when they twist facts and be deceitful. People like you Dime think these people a good sorts.
What a joke
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May 15, 2014 8:58pm
martinh

My summary of these two people is that Cunliffe is just unappealing has no charisma and everything is forced.
Key has no wit, wit is what i enjoy, what key does is just trite wet stuff and the best thing about him is he isnt Cunliffe.
ABC
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May 15, 2014 9:04pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Lu6FCVkNs&list=PLn2RjxYNpcazm_8_ZSGH9u_ADXjRKA9Qf
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May 15, 2014 9:05pm
Johnboy

“People like you Dime think these people a good sorts.”

Just as we all know people like you martinh are utter nonentities! 🙂
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May 15, 2014 9:08pm
martinh

JohnBoy
What defines an entity to you JohnBoy?
Are you a sycophant?
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May 15, 2014 9:09pm
Johnboy

Finger on the button for a one minute respond. That is the unmistakable signature of a nonentity martinh! 🙂
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May 15, 2014 9:14pm
Southern Raider

They should have just put this speech on 3 news in entirety. Forcing the great unwashed watch Keys speech might assist them to understand how good they have it under national.

The main spin attack on 3 seems to be around immigration and Auckland housing. So people want to move to NZ. Doesn’t this mean we have something the world wants? Also if your young in Auckland buy a friggin apartment. You don’t need a 5 bedroom house on a 1/4 acre
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May 15, 2014 9:17pm
dime

martin – my rental went up 140k in a year. glorious. and guess who ends up paying for it? the shit bags who are so eager to take my tax cash so bahahaha

think i might buy a couple of places this year.
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May 15, 2014 9:19pm
Johnboy

Countdown to martinh…1…2..3… He’s late! 🙂
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May 15, 2014 9:21pm
martinh

Dime
To go up 140k your rental must be worth over a million bucks well done.
My house is coming in about that now, its going to suck to upgrade against the communist cash competition though.
Not sure where the increase in wages are coming from to pay for the increase in house prices.
Seems like this is what happened in US before they burst
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May 15, 2014 9:23pm
ShawnLH

That was a brilliant performance from John Key. He totally shredded Labour’s credibility!

Thank God the Judith’s of NZ are a tiny, insignificant minority of whingers and haters. 🙂
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May 15, 2014 9:23pm
greenjacket

Wow. Cunliffe was like a Minister delivering a funeral service to a bored congregation who can’t wait to leave. Painful.
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May 15, 2014 9:25pm
MarkWylie

What did someone yell out just as Key was starting in on his “santa wish list” talk. He goes “it went a little bit like this…” then it sounds like a woman yells something out, and Key sounds like he responds with a firm “nope” then continues. Anyone know? I can’t make it out from the video, so perhaps someone who might have been there or heard it reported?
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May 15, 2014 9:29pm
waikatosinger

What a downbeat speech from Cunliffe. I kept expecting him to trot out the word malaise.
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May 15, 2014 9:30pm
martinh

Dime
By the way I suppose you live in Auckland too.
I suppose you are noticing the smoggy smell here now too, its starting to become overpopulated here already in my opinion.
A lot better than chinese cities but its definitely getting smoggy on quite a few days lately something ive never noticed before
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May 15, 2014 9:31pm
martinh

Mark
what time in the video?
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May 15, 2014 9:32pm
RF

Good speech from Jk. Thumb head is a sour negative prick. A Two faced smarmy tosser who will soon be rolled by Alfs mate Grant.
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May 15, 2014 9:35pm
Grendel

MarkWylie, it sounded like “did slater write this” or words to that effect. nice and short shutdown by the PM.
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May 15, 2014 9:52pm
OneTrack

“Not sure where the increase in wages are coming from to pay for the increase in house prices.”

The prices in Herne Bay, Grey Lynn and Remuera are getting high, aren’t they. How are first home buyers to cope?
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May 15, 2014 9:53pm
Fisiani

Sadly despite such a brilliant Budget 47% may not be enough to win. It will be so close in September. The media will make it so. They want a contest even if Grant Robertson does not.
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May 15, 2014 9:55pm
duggledog

Poor old Cunliffe.

This man will never be PM and I think he knows it. This was the speech of a drowning man

I watched the Campbell Live story on him at home, and I think the fish n chip scene spoke volumes. Who wears a jumper over their shoulders like that? Anybody notice the imperious way he told the f&c cooks he’d be back in 15 mins? What about the way he said ‘cheers mate’ to Campbell so hopefully, looking up at him, pleading with The Media not to skewer him?

I liked his wife immensely but I had to wonder, how does a woman who is obviously so intelligent, hard-working and capable, square away her husband’s various policies which even Joe Average can tell won’t work and will cost too much anyway? She must know it’s bunkum, does she just say, ‘yes dear’ or ‘David don’t be daft!’ We’ll never know.

Anyway

Today’s budget = re-election. They’ll drop the cost of rego’s right before the vote I reckon. The public like a little treat, and it’ll be enough to get National over the line and into governing- alone territory.
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May 15, 2014 9:56pm
SW

Key is definitely a very good performer (in a different league to Cunliffe at this stage).

Are posters here impressed with what Key’s list of Nationals achievements are after 6 years?

– Welfare reform
– Tax changes
– 90 day probationary period
– RMA reform
– Special Housing Areas?
– A movie being made
– Tiwai point
– Irrigation
– Oil and gas exploration
– Foreign Investment (does he mean foreign investment in NZ land?)
– A future free Trade Agreement
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May 15, 2014 10:04pm
Tinshed

I know I am biased so the Judiths’ of this world can instantly dismiss anything I say as irrelevant, but jeezs Wayne – what a contrast. A vibrant confident speaker in full control of the message/story/narrative – whatever fancy word you wish to use – and a tired, dispirited, soporific non-entity. I mean, really. Actually I thought Russel (2 ss’s, 1 l) gave a much better speech in reply. It just confirms what I have thought all along: National are much more in tune with the vibrant, diverse and energetic New Zealand most of us see each day, while Labour are mired in last century’s failed, forgotten and irrelevant class warfare ideology while the Greens are obsessed with a do-nothing, anti-job and anti-development view of the world. The choice has never been clearer.
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May 15, 2014 10:10pm
Fisiani

the problem is getting kneejerk Labour voters to actually think and realise that National is the party of the workers.
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May 15, 2014 10:43pm
igm

Take a look at the two effeminate wimps supporting “Tojo”, they are lining up for rainbow room duties no doubt! One a greaser, the other a failed small businessman, and their leader a known and proven liar, claiming qualifications from Harvard that do not exist.
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May 16, 2014 6:32am
igm

martinh: You display all the trademarks of a leeching leftie . . . probably a beneficiary or public servant.
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May 16, 2014 6:35am
burt

“This budget should be about those we’re here to serve” – coming from Labour – oh please!
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May 16, 2014 8:16am
ShawnLH

“Sadly despite such a brilliant Budget 47% may not be enough to win.”

On it’s own it may not be, but then it may not have to be. I would not be surprised to see that jump in the first post-budget polls.

That said National will need to continue it’s arrangement with ACT, and will likely have to do a similar deal with the Conservatives.

The other thing that gets lost in the thinking about post election coalitions is the Maori Party. While he has been criticized by some for it, I think Key was wise to build a good working relationship with them. They are generally sensible (as a party) and I think if it comes to the crunch will go with National.
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May 16, 2014 8:37am
Paulus

Am I allowed to call Winston an unmitigated jerk – His Lawyers have RNZ crawling and drivelling this morning about saying what Brendan Horan says, about Winston’s horse.

But He has not yet paid back the $158,000 he stole from Taxpayers, but that is different.

Who above all other politicians is the worse at denigrating people and not providing what he says are “death blows” but the aged creep.
Is creep defamatory ? In his eyes Yes.
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May 16, 2014 8:47am
ex-golfer

@igm Your generalizations are getting boorish.
I am a public servant. I am as right as you. Dime is my favourite commentor.
I battle every day working with my leftist colleagues to bring balance to what we do.
I am proud of what I do and achieve.
How about you keep your abuse of people you don’t know to yourself.
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May 16, 2014 9:44am
ross411

ex-golfer (139 comments) says:
May 16th, 2014 at 9:44 am
@igm Your generalizations are getting boorish.
I am a public servant. I am as right as you. Dime is my favourite commentor.
I battle every day working with my leftist colleagues to bring balance to what we do.

If true, I for one thank you for the stress you take on. igm can go suck a lemon, I believe that Judith is already there at the tree helping herself.
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May 16, 2014 9:52am
ross411

I just watched Key’s video. Most of the comparisons he listed are pretty damning. How can you sit there as a Labour politician (or Green) and not feel like you make things worse for the people you’re supposed to help?

And English sitting beside Key was one of the best parts of the video. He couldn’t have looked more relaxed and stress free. It must be nice to go about your job knowing you’re doing it well, and the evidence speaks on behalf of itself.
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May 16, 2014 10:19am
Andronicus

A pretty typical Key speech. Shallow and smart arse.

And he’s our Prime Minister?
God help us.
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May 16, 2014 11:26am
Manolo

The contrast could not be starker. Silent T is doomed, fucking doomed.
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