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July 21, 2015 2:00pm by David Farrar

Tomi Lahren on radical Islam

This video is going viral. The host is aged just 22 but has struck a real chord with many.

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Mighty_Kites

Because B1 bombers and US ground forces have definitely been super-successful in defeating terrorism and insurgents up until now. This person is as uninformed as the average Joe Bloggs on the street. Only difference is she has somehow managed to get a soapbox to shout her over the rest
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July 21, 2015 2:13pm
Ryan Sproull

Jesus, what a load of bullshit.
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July 21, 2015 2:16pm
Fentex

Nothing she said wouldn’t have been equally accurate addressed to “White Racist Terrorism” regarding the recent Charleston shootings, but she just choose to rant about what concerns her – marines being killed but not black citizens of the U.S being killed.

Then she asserts bombing people will solve the problem bombing people aggravates, in the name of her god, not their god.

And DPF extends her reach, therefore presumably agrees with her, I think, shallow opinion, on his blog while also decrying Labour for race baiting.

It does not impress.
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July 21, 2015 2:17pm
Odakyu-sen

This young lady does not understand the Muslim mind.
And the Muslim mind sure as hell does not understand this young lady.

And so it begins…
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July 21, 2015 2:21pm
Ryan Sproull

Is it technically terrorism when the targets aren’t non-combatants?

I mean, if the US killed a bunch of militants in their own country, in a military base, would that be a terrorist attack?
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July 21, 2015 2:24pm
Fletch

As far as terrorists go, Obama hasn’t helped by refusing to call it what it is.

First of all you have to call what it is you’re fighting by its name. The Fort Hood attack (which was obviously a terrorist attack, with the perpetrator shouting Allahu Ackbar as he mowed down troops) is still classified as “workplace violence” by the Obama Administration. All reference to radical Islam and Muslims has been removed from military training manuals on the advice of Muslim advocacy groups like CAIR and Obama has many Muslim advisors in the White House.

“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name” – Confucius

Next, he has to actually enforce immigration law at the border and stop illegal immigrants coming in (which he refuses to do).

As a Commander In Chief, the man is a disgrace.
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July 21, 2015 2:24pm
anonymouse

Has KB suddenly been page jacked by WO….
Oh and apparently she is not a fan of pantsuits either

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/28/cpac-speaker-zings-hillarys-mannish-pantsuits/
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July 21, 2015 2:27pm
Odakyu-sen

Ryan,

Read the Geneva Convention and other rules.

Terrorism is outside the legal framework and protocols of war.
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July 21, 2015 2:29pm
Fletch

Nothing she said wouldn’t have been equally accurate addressed to “White Racist Terrorism” regarding the recent Charleston shootings

And how many of those have we had in the past 15 years? Most terrorist attacks are perpetrated by Muslims – 21 of them in America since 9/11. Attacks by white racists aren’t an ongoing problem. Militant Islam is.
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July 21, 2015 2:31pm
bamchchnz

Noting the three earlier comments, it’s easy to be cynical about a young white girl living in the USA and who is frustrated that immigrant Muslim jihadists appear free to kill unarmed American service personnel.

Bombing may not be the answer, but neither is the kind of bloodless and languid response from Obama that was nothing short of appalling. He ‘knew the name’ of the perpetrator, (Mohammad) but refused to state it, failed to mention his Muslim faith, or Islam or jihad. One suspects he would have preferred to categorize this attack as ‘workplace violence’ as he did with Major Hassan’s murderous Jihad at Fort Hood.

Anger is exactly the correct response.

Additional correct responses would include halting Islamic immigration into the west, preventing the Saudi funding of Mosques in our countries, closing down Sharia law courts, canceling the passports of overseas Jihadists, pushing back on FMG, forced marriages and ‘honour’ violence.

But who of us expects that to happen? Washing the victims blood off the streets and the beach resorts is what we do best, followed by apologizing to the Muslim community for the backlash that rarely if ever eventuates.
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July 21, 2015 2:37pm
Komata

IMHO, it’s very interesting that the very generation which put Obama in power is now turning on him; that this young lady is part of the MSM which was implicit in his success, is, if anything, irony on steroids.

Japanese Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto once commented about the USA being a ‘Sleeping Giant that would be fearful when it awakes’.

Perhaps one eye is now slowly opening…?

One can but hope.

BTW (and sadly) Any bets as to how long it will be before this young lady meets with an ‘unfortunate accident’ under orders from ‘those in charge’ (aka a very ticked-off ‘White House’)? (which is something I never thought I would suggest could happen in 21st Century America; my naivete showing I guess).
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July 21, 2015 2:37pm
Ryan Sproull

Ryan,

Read the Geneva Convention and other rules.

Terrorism is outside the legal framework and protocols of war.

Yes, I thought it was generally defined around the Geneva Conventions on non-combatants.
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July 21, 2015 2:37pm
Nigel Kearney

Doing something that will fix the problem is difficult. Doing something that won’t fix the problem is much easier. Talking about doing something that won’t fix the problem is the easiest of all.
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July 21, 2015 2:41pm
Odakyu-sen

Isoruku Yamamoto knew the Americans far, far better than almost all young Muslim men alive today who are aged between 18 and 40 and who have family members who speak very highly of them.

Bullies often confuse civility and restraint as a sign of weakness.
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July 21, 2015 2:46pm
Interested

Good to see Cameron has the same message today
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/20/extremist-ideology-struggle-generation-david-cameron?CMP=share_btn_tw
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July 21, 2015 2:46pm
Graeme Edgeler

Read the Geneva Convention and other rules.

Terrorism is outside the legal framework and protocols of war.

That depends what you mean by “outside the legal framework”. Even captured terrorists are protected by common article 3 of the Geneva Conventions and must:

“in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

… the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to [people captured]:

(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

(b) taking of hostages;

(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;

(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.
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July 21, 2015 2:51pm
big bruv

I watched this clip, as it went on I found myself both agreeing with her and starting to feel a little uneasy about her true motivation. Had she been driven by a desire to rid the world of radical jihadi’s then I would have been fully in agreement, however right at the end of the clip she lost me when it became clear that what she really wants is a war between her religion and Islam.
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July 21, 2015 2:54pm
UglyTruth

What a fucking bubblehead.
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July 21, 2015 2:56pm
Odakyu-sen

Graeme,

Let’s look at the part you missed out.

Ref:https://www.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/375-590006

Convention (III) relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Conflicts not of an international character

ARTICLE 3
In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed ‘ hors de combat ‘ by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances… (this is where Graeme comes in and claims that the Article covers “captured terrorists” when it actually covers “persons taking no active part in the hostilities”)
…

(2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.
…

What do the rest of you think?
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July 21, 2015 3:02pm
stephieboy

I think Nigel kearney sums up the issue well and is worth repeating,’

“Doing something that will fix the problem is difficult. Doing something that won’t fix the problem is much easier. Talking about doing something that won’t fix the problem is the easiest of all.”

Fletch, Miltant Isalm the problem ? Sure is but what s needed is some workable and durable solutions and Tomi Lahren ‘s rhetoric tales us nowhere .

Ideas apart from tossing A Bombs on ISIS and invading Iraq again including Iran for good measure ???

DPF, your thoughts ??
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July 21, 2015 3:06pm
markm

The usual suspects are out in force the second this anti islamic terrorist post was up.

2 suggestions

1) get a job
2) Go and live in a radical islamic country and see how you like it and wether your views change
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July 21, 2015 3:06pm
Graeme Edgeler

Graeme,

Let’s look at the part you missed out.

Happy to, Odakyu-sen – it applies because of the use of the words “Persons taking no active part in the hostilities … including those placed ‘hors de combat’ by … detention, or any other cause…”

A captured terrorist is a person who is taking no active part in the hostilities. They have been captured. This prevents them taking an active part in terrorist activity or, indeed, other hostilities. They are therefore protected by the protections in article 3.

Most of the other protections in the treaty, do not apply to them, as they are not prisoners of war, but the protections in article 3 do.
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July 21, 2015 3:10pm
Odakyu-sen

stephieboy,

What problem did the little boy who shouted out, “The King has no clothes” solve?

I would argue Tomi Lahren did do something that will help fix the problem: she dared to talk about the elephant in the room.
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July 21, 2015 3:14pm
Odakyu-sen

Graeme,

I think you are talking about “unlawful combatants hors de combat”

Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, unlawful combatants hors de combat are granted the same privilege and to be treated with humanity while in captivity but unlike lawful combatants, they are subject to trial and punishment, which includes execution.
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July 21, 2015 3:22pm
UglyTruth

Here’s your first clue: sacrifice

Tomi Lahren: “I care that our commander in chief is more concerned with Muslim sensitivity than the honour and sacrifice made by these marines”

“Every one of them had to make sacrifices in their lives and some even left all their wealth to make hijrah to Medina.”
https://myabdulazeez.wordpress.com/

The role of sacrifice is the fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam.
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July 21, 2015 3:23pm
stephieboy

Odakyu-sen , OK the Elephant in the Room is say Militant Islam.

Now the solutions ( apart from rhetoric )

Ideas ??
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July 21, 2015 3:25pm
Odakyu-sen

stephieboy,

Are you sure that we are looking at the same elephant?
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July 21, 2015 3:29pm
kowtow

‘Radical” Islam is not the problem.

The problem is Islam itself , the Koran and the personal example of its prophet as a murdering, thieving, sex slave dealing war lord.
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July 21, 2015 3:34pm
Odakyu-sen

kowtow,

Islam needs to be reformed in a way so that its adherents no longer use it as an excuse to kill people.
There’s plenty of text in the Bible that Christians could quote as a reason to kill someone, but them don’t.

What is it that make Christians so different from Muslims?

There have to be a lot of cultural factors at work as well. Factors such as hatred of women, Christians, Jews, non-muslims, non-same-sect Muslims, atheists, etc.
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July 21, 2015 3:40pm
redqueen

You can understand the woman’s frustration, even if it’s not entirely coherent (she’s making valid points, but there are ‘a few’ problems – I don’t think a massive air and ground assault will yield her desired result).
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July 21, 2015 3:43pm
GraemeB

There is something they can do, strengthen and enforce laws about inciting violence. Then deal to the hate preachers of the death cult.
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July 21, 2015 4:04pm
jawnbc

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&w=420&h=315%5D
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July 21, 2015 4:06pm
Manolo

UT and stephieboy, twins joined at the hip in their defense of barbaric Islam.
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July 21, 2015 4:10pm
UglyTruth

Manolo, yet another useful idiot in Babylon’s war against the truth.
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July 21, 2015 4:22pm
Dexter

What of course this moron doesn’t realize is that terrorist groups want the U.S to react with ‘bombs’ because it is the absolute best tool they have in terms of propaganda and recruitment. That’s why they are committing the terrorist acts in the first place.

You are not going to eradicate radical Islam by killing them all anymore than you will put out a fire by dowsing it with gasoline.

Of course you could limit domestic terrorism by not having retarded firearms laws, but hey 20,000 lives a year is a slim price to pay for freedom from tyranny!
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July 21, 2015 4:23pm
UglyTruth

The problem is Islam itself , the Koran and the personal example of its prophet as a murdering, thieving, sex slave dealing war lord.

The real problem is ignorance.

And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has He instructed you that you may use reason.

Qur’an, Surah 6:151
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July 21, 2015 4:26pm
Shawn Herles

OUTSTANDING!

I agree with her 100%
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July 21, 2015 4:33pm
CharlieBrown

I don’t agree with most of her rant but there was one really good point she made which is the west is pussy footing around muslim sensitivities. We consider a muslim moderate providing they don’t bomb is, even if they think that apostacy should be punishable by death, even if they believe it should be illegal to draw their paedophile prophet. Yet we call Christians radical if they believe the same thing.

The West should be saying that if you don’t want to live by our standards then fuck off to Saudi Arabia. We are in a state of appeasement and it is rife among nearly all western countries, nz as well.
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July 21, 2015 4:34pm
Shawn Herles

She nailed Obama and his administration perfectly. The next election cannot come fast enough.
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July 21, 2015 4:40pm
Shawn Herles

You cannot fight Islam with piss weak liberalism right or left, or “enlightenment” sensibilities. We are this weak in the first place because we have lost, at least to a degree, the soul of the West.
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July 21, 2015 4:45pm
mikenmild

Because if the west was more Christian, we’d be all turning the other cheek and loving our neighbours, right?
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July 21, 2015 4:53pm
Odakyu-sen

In this whole “radical Islam” meme, I believe we have at least 4 components, 3 of which have nothing to do with religion.

1. Islam the morally enabling religion (my God tells me that what I do is right)
2. The culture (It’s not my fault, why do you look at me as if I did something wrong! You insult me!)
3. A racial component (die you white/yellow/black/brown scum!) (often but not always applicable)
4. A young-man-aged-18-to-40 component (Blood and glory! Yay!)

The religion acts as the catalyst, however.
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July 21, 2015 5:22pm
Kea

The reason the West is at war with Islam is due to radical Zionism, not radical Islam.

How radical ?

So radical that an entire nation was concocted in the modern era based on biblical fables. A religious fantasy land for the self declared “chosen ones”.

ISIS want that too, but compare the response !
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July 21, 2015 5:27pm
Odakyu-sen

Kea,

Just home from work, I see.

How was your day?
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July 21, 2015 5:31pm
Kea

Odakyu-sen. Good thanks 🙂

Careful my friend, the constant exposure to the god addled propagandists has started to effect your own judgment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raFHlwVp4LI
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July 21, 2015 5:36pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/szh5uf8333x02zu/Religionutters%2041.jpg?dl=0
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July 21, 2015 5:42pm
Kea

The US has invaded Muslim countries all over the world on behalf of Israel. They have killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. They have also sponsored radical groups, as in Syria, due to the Israel lobbies demands to destablise the Arab world. (They don’t want an ally of Iran right next door, given the zionists declared goal of destroying Persia)

Yet this brainless vile mouthed bimbo thinks four dead marines is an issue.

If she really cared about marines she would demand they be bought home, instead of killing people in foreign lands who the Israel lobby does not favour.
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July 21, 2015 5:48pm
Kea

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQByEUee4TAFzl_G&w=487&h=272&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2014%2F07%2F08%2Farticle-2684147-1F77DA7200000578-259_634x355.jpg
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July 21, 2015 5:49pm
itstricky

Surprised no one has just said “Fox outfoxed Fox”

I mean cmon…….she’s just a conservative plant given a script on a conservative channel to try and plug ratings to beat Fox. Blondes, God, guns, and kill ’em all. That do nicely, thanks. Ratings ahoy.

DPF seems to think she is an independent innocent intellectual though…. Strange.
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July 21, 2015 5:57pm
Inandout

Kea: One prays 35 times a week to rid the world of Christians, the other just wants to rid the world of Muslims.
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July 21, 2015 5:58pm
Kea

Inandout, last time I checked it was the Jews (well zionist ones) leading Christians into war and death.

“‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)

“Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)

* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

* “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)

The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)

* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)
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July 21, 2015 6:05pm
Inandout

Kea: Shit I didn’t realise it was Jews who have made my air travel a time consuming chore, who have lone wolf killers roaming the suburbs, who object to pork advertisements, who demand separate areas in swimming pools, who hate dogs, who call for interest free mortgages, who treat women like shit and dress them in space suits, who prefer very young brides; nah you talk of things that have long disappeared from Jewish practice. Muslims are the here and now.
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July 21, 2015 6:14pm
itstricky

You are not going to eradicate radical Islam by killing them all anymore than you will put out a fire by dowsing it with gasoline.

Willing to bet you anything you like Ms. Lahren doesn’t realise, at all, that “put the fear of God into them”, “God bless you” and “God bless America” is EXACTLY what the terrorists are saying, just in reverse.
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July 21, 2015 6:15pm
Kea

Inandout, I partly agree. However, if we gave Muslims all the considerations, land, money, military support etc that the Jews get, I wonder how things would look then ?

The fact is the zionists are every bit as fanatical as any Muslim. Even with all their special consideration they still wail, connive and manipulate for ever more dead Muslims. Currently they are furious Iran is not being attacked.

They got given their morally repugnant fantasy land by the UN and have bled the West like leeches ever since. But due to their absurd belief non Jews are sub humans to be used, they are not grateful at all.
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July 21, 2015 6:20pm
waikatosinger

I don’t know the solution is to this disease of a religion. But removing the tax exempt status from mosques might be a start. If people want to play with this dangerous ideology at the very least they should have to do it on their own dime.
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July 21, 2015 7:26pm
Fraggle

Another “ignorant” Muslim Ugly?

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4503544.ece

Islamic State launched its first attack on Turkish soil yesterday, slaughtering dozens of volunteer aid workers at a Kurdish cultural centre who were about to cross the border into Syria.

A massive blast, believed to be the work of an 18-year-old woman suicide bomber, destroyed the gardens of the Amara centre, in Suruc, as members of the Federation of Socialist Youth Associations gathered in the courtyard.

They were preparing to set off on a humanitarian mission to rebuild the Kurdish town of Kobani, much of which was left devastated after a siege last year by Isis, and the fight to retake it.

Pity no one educated this young woman that her behaviour would be unacceptable to her fucking prophet. Or had he suddenly materialised and decreed it was in fact “legal” to blow up these people?

Aloha Snackbar, Ugly, and all the rest of you muslim-fascist-pig supporters. How on earth can you continue to defend this?
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July 21, 2015 7:30pm
SPC

Fraggle, ugly regards Moslems as ignorant of Islam – being poor followers of the true prophet Mohammed. He also regards Christians as being the followers of a false prophet called Paul.
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July 21, 2015 7:45pm
Inandout

Kea: Israel undoubtedly receives favours from the US, and no doubt Israel returns the favour in technology. The US, as an advanced nation, owes much to Jews working in the education, health and technology fields. If the Islamists put their energies into creating, rather than destroying, then perhaps the Middle East would once again be a leader in these fields. Instead there is just death and destruction, no matter how many ‘Arab Springs’ are announced. I lay the blame solely at the Muslim religion, which does seem to have lost the plot and which promises believers little in this world, concentrating more on the next; not very good for cultural advancement, but excellent for an army of hopeless martyrs.
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July 21, 2015 7:45pm
Shawn Herles

Stephie mentioned solutions, but I doubt he was interested in an answer.

Regardless, here are a few, in no particular order.

Close the borders to every country with a majority Muslim population.

Deport all illegal immigrants, and all first generation immigrants who commit any crimes over and above traffic fines and misdemeanors.

End anti-discrimination laws that are used by Muslims (and other groups) to silence Christians and patriots.

End all “hate speech” laws, for the same reason.

End any taxpayer funding for Islamification efforts, end all Islamification propaganda in state schools.

Reverse the draw down of US troops in Iraq, restore to, at the very least, pre-invasion levels, and annihilate ISIS both in Iraq and in Syria.

Reverse Obama’s policies on Israel, cease telling Israel to swap anything for a false “peace”, continue to arm the IDF and vow to defend Israel against any attack by terrorists or Islamic states, and to answer any attack with military force.

Increase private sector funding for Christian missionary work in Muslim countries,

Move as fast as possible to total energy independence for the West.
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July 21, 2015 8:14pm
Fraggle

Great stuff Shawn… just one alteration: Need to get rid of the second generation immigrants on the same grounds. They often still don’t assimilate and have no direct experience of why their parents emigrated.
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July 21, 2015 8:18pm
Kea

Inandout, Israel sucks like a leech on the USA. Sure Jews have a great intellectual culture, but why call them “Jews” and not Americans ? They take much more than they give either way.

Islam is a train wreck, agreed.

However, give the Muslims what the jew has been given, or stolen, and then judge.
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July 21, 2015 8:19pm
Fraggle

You can do that, Kea, but the Western world will not be around to judge.
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July 21, 2015 8:21pm
SPC

Kea, Pakistani Moslems were given a partition share of India. Just as Jews were given a share of Palestine. Pakistan has become a wasteland ruined by madrassas.
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July 21, 2015 8:23pm
Odakyu-sen

Look at all the contributions that researchers and engineers (who happen to be Jewish) have given to the world. Look at the winners of the Nobel prizes in the STEM fields. (And we won’t even touch on the business world.)

I tells ya, if I were out in a dry, semi-desert part of the world, with few natural resources, and some creative, can-do people came along and over the years started to make the desert bloom, I’d sure as hell be lining up to work for them and learn their skills. I’d want my kids to graduate high school and learn useful stuff.

There is so much the Middle East could learn from the success of Israel in the fields of science, engineering, business, what have you. All it needs is vision, hard work, patience, scholarship, determination.

Okay, so I might not share the same religion as the Jews, but if I were a Muslim with a brain and a dream, I would learn all that I could from them.

If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em (and then beat ’em). (That’s a thought the Arab mind could work with, if it were prepared to work.)
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July 21, 2015 8:25pm
AgentBallSack

Someone above said bring on the next election…Imagine Trump as Commander in Chief. Or President (yes I know the two go hand in hand). The guy is a ball blast away from alienating Mexico, Americas biggest fucking neighbour. Imagine the damage he could do in the Middle East. If you all thought the Bushes were stupid, hold on to your hats because shits about to get real.
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July 21, 2015 8:35pm
Thelensofhistory

Ultimately Isis and Iran brands of Islamic extremism will be one of the trigger points for the coming world war. The game is that some of the hard lessons are WW2 forefathers taught us will have to be relearned. Superior industrial capacity trumps over fanaticism (think the defeat of Japan in WW2.)

Islamic extremism in the Middle East will have to be wiped out the hard way. Afterwards the people who are left in the Middle East region can choose their own borders. A Marshal Aid style program would be then used to get the new nations on there feet and help them on there way to becoming a peaceful trading region.
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July 21, 2015 9:05pm
mikenmild

the people who are left

Another genocide advocate
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July 21, 2015 9:10pm
Thelensofhistory

@mikenmild On contrary! Once the people of the Middle East are freed from the captivity of Islamic Extremism and dictatorships they will be able to rediscover their intellectual historical roots. In the dark ages much of the Middle East region was flourishing. At present the Middle East is in it’s own Dark Age.
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July 21, 2015 9:23pm
Odakyu-sen

I’d advocate theocide, not genocide.
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July 21, 2015 9:29pm
mjw

Obama this. Obama that. Obama the other. If you think this is about radical islam, you’ve been suckered. It is purely a partisan political agenda, and a blatant piece of self-promotion. If I were to sum up this video, it would be in one word. An audition.
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July 21, 2015 9:30pm
Fentex

Attacks by white racists aren’t an ongoing problem

Not for you perhaps, or I presume her but they are a constant problem for black U.S citizens. Which is my point.

This women is venting anger, and like most when angry isn’t thinking clearly. She wants to bomb the middle east with little discretion, where every other day more die in bombings and shootings outnumbering assaults by terrorists on the U.S considerably and all she would do is add to the worlds misery fir little purpose but indulging in vengeance and probably little effect but to alienate and radicalise more people as enemies of her country.

All because she has a angry persons fantasy that it’s possible to identify, locate and surgically exterminate ones enemies without ill consequence.

Her anger is understandable, but holding her expression of it up as some kind of credible option in the real world is folly.
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July 21, 2015 9:47pm
Inandout

Kea: It is very difficult to have a reasoned discussion when your views on Jews are so one sided e.g. ‘Muslims and the jew’ (upper case/lower case). Why not the muslim and the jew?

As for being Jewish in the US, is this not the same as African/American, Spanish/American, although I expect all the those groups consider themselves American over all else. The Muslim will consider his religion overrides all else, and that is what makes them unpredictable and often traitorous.
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July 21, 2015 9:59pm
Boris Piscina

Not much has changed in 100 years.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/churchillislam.asp

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/churchillislam.asp#1GhtZ4auG1uJI8MA.99

Just saying.
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July 22, 2015 12:12am
Fraggle

That sayed it very well, Boris.
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July 22, 2015 12:27am
Shunda barunda

The world has gone absolutely insane, there is a terrible lack of leadership on almost every level, people are becoming more ignorant even as information becomes more accessible, polarization is worse than ever, a growing angry underclass, economic instability and almost total confusion on issues of morality.

Every time in human history these conditions existed major warfare broke out in fairly short order.

It’s hard not to be a pessimist.

Time to prepare the lifeboats.
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July 22, 2015 12:33am
stephieboy

I initially thought that the tirade by Tomi Lehaan was from a previously unknown fb or twitter poster which would of given her spiel possibly some kind of grassroots credibility. But we subsequently learn that she is fronts a Conservative TV network that sees itself as a rival to Fox News.

Which gets you thinking…. you know ratings etc . As far as am aware Fox has not carried the item.

Interesting…
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July 22, 2015 9:42am
Manolo

@stephieboy: Tell us your specific disagreement with her when comes to the violent and barbaric nature of radical Islam, the religion you support and promote.
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July 22, 2015 9:55am
wiseowl

Fox has had her on and must say I was impressed with her when being interviewed.

I think she should stand for the Young Nats.

On second thoughts Young Nats are too left wing.
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July 22, 2015 1:05pm
yankdownunder

I think that the historical perspective has been overlooked. Islam has been “at war” for centuries with the “west”. They only pop their heads above the trenches when they feel as though they have an advantage that can be exploited. A lot of people see this as a “new” issue to deal with when in fact, western civilization has been trying to manage a co-existence with Muslims for centuries. Ignorance of this will lead you to the wrong conclusion.
Charles Martel is a hero.
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