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June 25, 2017 10:00am by David Farrar

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The latest Roy Morgan poll is out, and as usual is showing some big movements. I’ve blogged the results at Curia.

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Colville

SlaveLabour down to 25% ? Oh No 🙂

This would give Winston a stark choice. Support National or force Nation to accept more separatist polices from the Maori Party.
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June 25, 2017 10:06am
- cmm
  
  This survey was done BEFORE slavegate and Barclay hit the news.
  
  I wonder whether these will change it either way.
  
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  June 25, 2017 11:53am
  - Colville
    
    I know the polling period is pre SlaveLabourgate.
    That is what makes this so juicy.
    Its freefall to the floor from here on in.
    
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    June 25, 2017 3:51pm
- peterwn
  
  This is Winston’s second worst nightmare. His worst nightmare is when the leading parties do not even bother to negotiate with him. The only time he was complete ‘kingmaker’ was in 1996. At the subsequent times he was involved in a government, Helen Clark had two support parties either of which was sufficient.
  
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  June 25, 2017 12:43pm
- Deadly pony
  
  I find it extraordinary that one in four people would actually vote Labour. I mean, really.
  
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  June 25, 2017 1:34pm
- paul scott
  
  Thats right Colville [10.06 ] NZF policy is to prefer the highest polling for negotiations.
  Lab/Gr steady at 39.5% in this and the Colmar poll last month.
  A lower undecided at 6% here as compared to 12% in Colmar has not lifted NZF at 9%.
  I thought half of the undecideds should be ours [ NZF] Mind you these polls only 1000 people . I give Nats 45% likely.
  
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  June 25, 2017 5:22pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh No, they’ve missed out Gareth.

What sort of polling Company is this?
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June 25, 2017 10:10am
- sparkhole
  
  What sort of party is TOP anyway? Are they expecting to get %5 or win a seat? If they did get into parliament who would they go into coalition with? Did even 1/817 choose TOP?
  What is wrong with this comment box thing?
  
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  June 25, 2017 10:26am
- nasska
  
  ….”Conservative 0.0% (nc)”….
  
  They gave Catman the flick yet mentioned this pack of conservative retards.
  
  Surely it must be obvious that the return of Colin’s mob would be classed as another Resurrection.
  
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  June 25, 2017 10:29am
Simon

Crackpot greens on 14%. One good push by them and a series of fuckups by Labo and the crackpots overtake Labo

It is 2017 are Labo relevant anymore? Union jobs are being replaced by machines. Union violence and Labo class hatred is so badly dated. No where to turn.
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June 25, 2017 10:23am
Rich Prick

Oh dear. Labour clearly needs to import 1,000 more slaves from America to do their bidding. It’s working a treat so far.
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June 25, 2017 10:37am
- cmm
  
  They tried to get 100, but there were only 85.
  
  There are none left.
  
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  June 25, 2017 11:35am
  - tspoon765
    
    You’d need some sort of inter-dimensional warp drive gate thingy to find that many lefties willing to work.
    
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    June 25, 2017 6:43pm
Captain Mainwaring

25.5%. A new low for Slavelabour. Since the 2014 election that is.
Any takers for 22% by Sept. 23?
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June 25, 2017 10:57am
- sooty
  
  Under 20%.edit for slave labour camp.
  3% for Angry labour camp kommandant.
  
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  June 25, 2017 12:30pm
V

The sad thing is if Labour were even half way competant National could be putunder sustained pressue.

Look at this headline from today:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/93992265/chefs-beef-with-bureaucrats-arcane-new-rules-prohibit-restaurants-grilling-mediumrare-burger

Nanny state alive and well (done). This should be what the regulating showerheads moment was for Labour under Helen.
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June 25, 2017 11:03am
- GazzaW
  
  If I recall correctly the showerheads/water pressure/eco lightbulbs issue emanated from the Labour government, the rare beef stupidity has come from a self-important bureaucrat (probably votes for Labour) within MPI. It certainly does not have Nathan Guy’s fingerprints on it. There’s a difference.
  
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  June 25, 2017 11:45am
  - V
    
    You make a weak defence of a Minister who should have control and oversight of his department.
    
    National supposed to be more small business friendly, but regulating the internal temperature of a burger suggests not.
    
    Chefs are trained people, and kitchens already inspected premises. Additional rules on how things are to be cooked is big time nanny state behaviour.
    
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    June 25, 2017 11:55am
    - GazzaW
      
      Was Nathan Guy even aware of it? I’ll bet this particular petty bureaucrat didn’t even get ministerial sign-off. I would have thought this was a matter for Health not MPI.
      
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      June 25, 2017 12:01pm
      - V
        
        Aware of what? That his department has the authority in the first place to create loads of regulations without oversight?
        
        The poor bastard, he’s only had at least 4 months to figureout what f*ck is going on.
        
        https://www.mpi.govt.nz/news-and-resources/media-releases/new-food-plans-make-law-easier-for-businesses/
        
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        June 25, 2017 12:09pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Sorry to disagree, but this is the kind of over-the-top, petty regulation that has bedeviled the National Government’s last few years.
    
    Further examples are evident in suffocating workplace safety regulations. Increasingly, these absolve employees of common-sense self-responsibility for their own safety, while adding layers of additional (and what should be unnecessary) cost on employers. It is the latter who are the investment risk-takers and the job-creators.
    
    It is for Ministers to control excesses and the pettiness displayed by their Departments. I would hope that a quiet word from Guy to his departmental boss – not a formal instruction – would be enough to have this particular nonsense remedied. And to act as a request / warning not to spring damaging political surprises of this sort on the Government.
    
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    June 25, 2017 12:15pm
    - V
      
      I think this is the point though, it is not just a silly one-off rule that has been created and can be wound back with a phone call.
      It is an entire policy that is being rolled out nationwide to the restaurant industry.
      
      If the Minister is not responsible for that, what does he do all day?
      
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      June 25, 2017 12:19pm
    - V
      
      The workplace safety one is a good point. The rules become so ownerous on employers that little wonder workers will get replaced with robots in lots of industry.
      If you have to treat your human workers like unthinking drones, little wonder the employer may as well cut out the middle man and get something that can be directly programmed!
      
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      June 25, 2017 12:27pm
    - cmm
      
      Quite
      
      Nats came to power in 2008 with the promise of data driven governance. That means they should look for the holes in bureaucratic logic and push back.
      
      Nats have lost that. Nowhere has this shown in health and safety where National just roll over and take whatever recommendations they get from the bureaucrats.
      
      A classic case are the new regulations around the use of scaffolding for any work on roofing and two story buildings. While at first blush they might make it a bit safer to work on a reef, in really drives up prices so more under-skilled DIYers give it a go without the skills and equipment: hence more injuries.
      
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      June 25, 2017 12:38pm
Ross Miller

these rogue polls keep coming just like waves. Disheartening for some. The big thing I take out of it is the 61.5% that think the country is heading in the ‘right’ direction.
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June 25, 2017 11:16am
Paulus

I will be interesting at the next poll to see whether the media’s obsession with Bill English will show any further manifestation of the Labour Slave Labour scheme.
The media have gone very quiet over Labour as it appears that somebody (KDC?) has paid the anticipated $280,000 to take the scheme effectively away from the Labour Party Election costs.
Still tax and costs in Employment Law – but that will disappear.
Now Labour and the complicit media can concentrate on denigrating English and the silly boy from Southland, and the complicit with the ……….woman and her friends who set this whole thing up even before he was nominated.
This group which goes very high in the National Party did not get the person they wanted so get the boy. There is much more to this than in the open – see WO who knows the involvement at an early stage.
So instead of helping the boy these people went out their way to tear him to pieces publically and privately.
In taping them slagging him off he needed to be more subtle and somebody in the Party should have mentored him.
He was foolish to have admitted it and English was complicit – it will hurt English – gone by April as the National’s results will be very bad. The media and Winston will see to it.

To be old and wide you have to have been young and foolish – I know.
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June 25, 2017 11:19am
- GazzaW
  
  I disagree Paulus. Both incidents (Barclay and Labour’s ‘volunteers’) might be of abiding interest to political tragics like you and me but they are beltway issues. The vast majority of the public couldn’t give a toss particularly during a week in the middle of a Lions test series and when the Americas Cup will be won or lost. Victories in either or preferably both of those comps will see the country swept away in a tide of nationalistic fervour.
  
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  June 25, 2017 11:56am
thedavincimode

Where are the resident Stalag 13 operators?
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June 25, 2017 12:08pm
Tauhei Notts

The 2017 election might have one matter that was seen in 1981.
In 1981 many thousands of National voters, in safe National seats, voted Social Credit. They could not bring themselves to vote for a shiver looking for a spine to run up. But they disliked The Pig. So they voted for “funny money”.
Similarly, in 2017 I think many thousands of National voters will give their candidate vote to NZ First, just to remind Bill English that Nathan Guy is silly, as is Woodhouse in Immigration, Nick Smith is an aberration just like Todd Barclay, and if we are going to get a Labour party Budget, why not have a Labour politician deliver it.
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June 25, 2017 12:49pm
MrTips

Roy Morgan is full of movements. I don’t know why anyone cares to take notice of them.
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June 25, 2017 1:38pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Don’t get too excited with Rogue Morgan poll. Next poll will show a 5 point drop to National and a 3 point increase to Chicken Little and a 2 point increase to the toxic Greens. Waste of time following this poll.
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June 25, 2017 2:14pm
Notsofast

Bye bye Bill, paying for John Key’s disgracefully ruling out Winstone Peters, and thus scorning democracy.
Any one imagining Winny moving in with that blighted lot still believes in the tooth fairy.
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June 25, 2017 3:40pm
- paul scott
  
  The reason Nsf [3.40] for NZF to move in is to take the rot out, and let the public see that happen > Co-governance> RMA> Immigration > Regional development > . He will probably want 3 Ministers
  
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  June 25, 2017 5:44pm
  - Notsofast
    
    Winston will do this.
    
    “NZ First Leader and MP for Northland Winston Peters says there is no shortage of demand for rail in Northland.
    
    “But no-one is going to be putting their cargo on a train going five kilometres an hour countless times on the way to Auckland.”
    
    Peters has been vocal about the future of rail in Northland and told those in attendance the topography of Northland and the damage already done to the roads makes the case for rail in the region.
    
    Peters says the Government committed $1.25 billion towards a $2.5 billion Supercity road upgrade which covers 3.4km.
    
    “For $220 million, 270km of track in Northland could be updated, lifting both speed and height restrictions so that high cube containers can be carried. That sum would fund a brand new line into Northport.”
    
    Northland businessman Wayne Brown also spoke at the event, expressing his desire to use rail to transport products from the dairy factory he is building in Kerikeri to an appropriate port.
    
    Winstone was an outstanding minister of racing, he is a solutions guy. ”
    He must relish the idea of kicking Bill’s boring butt out of the ballpark.
    
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    June 25, 2017 9:05pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      he is a solutions guy. ”
      
      Yip ethanol solutions being his favorite.
      
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      June 26, 2017 7:56am
burt

With this percentage it’s possible nobody on the Labour list gets in.
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June 25, 2017 8:44pm
- sparkhole
  
  This is true and any possible new seat picked up exaberates the problem. Who would this leave as a credible leader? At this point I feel that no party has a credible leader.
  
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