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November 17, 2018 11:00am by David Farrar

Dear God, please, yes.

Dear God, please, yes. https://t.co/bmfWokusJj

— Kellyanne Conway (@KellyannePolls) November 12, 2018

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secondcumming

Alx Swny has just tweeted his endorsement.
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November 17, 2018 11:03am
- GazzaW
  
  Swney hasn’t been able to keep his mouth shut since he got out of the slammer after serving a small fraction of his five year sentence. If he repaid the millions that he stole from taxpayers and ratepayers to feed his yuppy lifestyle I might be more inclined to respect his opinions.
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:52am
- kevn
  
  He swny, needs to STFU… and become invisible.
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:25pm
ldypen

Well that’s that then… Trump 4-more years!
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November 17, 2018 11:05am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Then Ivanka
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:39am
  - Steve Todd
    
    Hardly. While thus far, there is nothing to suggest she is interested in public office, she would need to gain experience as an elected representative first.
    
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    November 17, 2018 1:42pm
    - s.russell
      
      Experience as an elected representative? You mean like Donald had?
      
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      November 17, 2018 1:56pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        He had considerably more life experience than she has, and a much higher public profile. But, even so, he is still the most unsuitable person ever to occupy that great office. (Besides, there has never been, and there never will be again, anyone quite like The Donald. He’s a definite one-off.)
        
        No, were she suddenly to acquire political ambitions, she would have to do it the conventional way, I’m afraid.
        
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        November 17, 2018 2:16pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘he is still the most unsuitable person ever to occupy that great office. ‘
        
        Yeah, because he keeps his promises and is achieving results.
        We can’t have that.
        Orange Man Bad
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        November 17, 2018 2:36pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      She is gaining experience right now
      
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      November 17, 2018 3:23pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        Not as an elected representative.
        
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        November 17, 2018 7:21pm
    - Delicate lady voter
      
      ‘Experience’ – like our MPs… Lee’s-Galloway can’t read or use the Google machine, Shane Jones can’t ensure the people receiving our money actually know how to grow trees (kill the weeds, clear the land and you don’t plant trees in summer), Clare can’t keep a diary straight, the speaker can’t be impartial, the energy Teletubby, Woods is sending us back to the dark ages and some major fuel companies have sold out of their NZ interests, Robertson can’t count and Jacinda? Business confidence, oh well that’s because of what’s happening overseas (probably Trump’s fault she thinks?) but look at my baby, and my hair, and well just me, I’m so fabulous – I’m on telly all the time and in all the magazines. Yep, that’s our ‘experienced’ politicians for yah. Ivana would have more ‘experience’ than the lot of them put together I’d imagine, certainly more brains and initiative.
      
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      November 18, 2018 6:26am
      - Steve Todd
        
        “Ivana would have more ‘experience’ than the lot of them put together I’d imagine, […].”
        
        Not political experience. Working for daddy in his big house doesn’t cut it.
        
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        November 18, 2018 10:13am
  - Stamper
    
    No ! not born in the USA. Ask Arnie Swartz !
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:32pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      You’re thinking of Ivana, Ivanka’s mother.
      
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      November 18, 2018 12:27am
- Mobile Michael
  
  You think the Democrats will give her another chance?
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:13pm
  - Milhous
    
    No
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:19pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    I don’t think anyone will cross her path – and we all know why
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:31pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      knows. She. bodies. are. where. the. buried. them. she. buried. because.
      
      Just rearrange 🙂
      
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      November 17, 2018 2:25pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Might even escalate it. Hydrofluoric acid seems to be the new thing
        
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        November 17, 2018 5:02pm
- Ross12
  
  While I’d like that as well Idypen , the way their voting system is so corrupted and easily manipulated I would not bet on it.
  
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  November 17, 2018 1:35pm
Huevon

Her reptilian overlords designed a (more or less) convincing human exterior for her, but just can’t get the subtleties of her politics right. Back to the drawing board.
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November 17, 2018 11:06am
Komata

And when she looses again, whose fault will it be?

BTW, isn’t ‘Insanity’ defined as repeatedly doing an action that always produces the same negative end-result?
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November 17, 2018 11:12am
WaveyDavey

Author of the only book that gives away the answer to the question on its front page.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51iTTXhMcBL._SX329_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
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November 17, 2018 11:14am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  What Happened?
  Why didn’t my book sell?
  Why didn’t it even make the top 1,000 NYT list?
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:19am
  - WaveyDavey
    
    Answer to those is also below the question 😉
    
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    November 17, 2018 11:29am
    - Steve Todd
      
      But it wasn’t a question. The title is clearly a reference to what happened, from her point of view.
      
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      November 17, 2018 1:45pm
      - Nukuleka
        
        You should develop a sense of humour Steve.
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:29pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        @ Nukuleka
        
        Yeah, maybe, but WaveyDavey was being deadly serious—and, we’ve had a previous skirmish.
        
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        November 17, 2018 3:41pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        The book cover had a grammar error – prob an ex teacher who does shit for the highly educated Democrats…….
        There was no room on the cover for a question mark ??????
        
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        November 17, 2018 5:06pm
Keeping Stock

To run in 2020, first she has to live that long. And that can’t be taken for granted.

I bet Donald Trump is happy though.
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November 17, 2018 11:16am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  He needs to double up his security, that evil woman is not to be trusted
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:35am
Steve (North Shore)

Apparently 2000 boxes of Hillary 2020 votes have just turned up in Florida and Arizona
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November 17, 2018 11:33am
- Komata
  
  Steve
  
  Sadly, it may be a case of ‘Many a true word…’
  
  The Dems have form in such matters.
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:02pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    It’s the only thin they excel in – cheating
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:06pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Joseph Stalin reputedly said – “It’s not the people voting who decide elections, but the people counting the votes.”
    
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    November 17, 2018 2:27pm
Manolo

Rumour has it that stephieboy wetted his pants when he heard the news. 😀
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November 17, 2018 11:38am
- VicParking
  
  Certainly did not cream his draws
  At last a photo of Stephie
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2016/05/25/this-man-lived-as-a-goat-for-nearly-a-week-we-asked-him-why/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a5462642dca3
  
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  November 17, 2018 11:47am
Monique Watson

Lockheed is running.
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November 17, 2018 11:42am
Jules99

Proof if it were needed, that there is something very wrong with the Democratic party. Note how few young people are working up the ranks. Nancy Polosi and Maxine Waters should be spending time with their families, but are still clinging on to power. I’m fine with that, because it gives Trump a good chance in 2020. I think his biggest achievements will be in his second term. When you think about how he has united the Republican’s in the past two years, that’s quite a feat.
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November 17, 2018 12:02pm
- Southern Raider
  
  And then those Muslim lovers like Farrakhan are also strong in the tops ranks
  
  The Dems make our Greens look normal
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:09pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  What about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex?
  She is the future of the Dens LOL!
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:20pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    *Dems
    
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    November 17, 2018 12:30pm
  - Jules99
    
    I suspect that we’ll find her financial declaration is exposed as ‘inaccurate’. Anyway, she will be ‘Bernie’d’ before she can run.
    
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    November 17, 2018 4:39pm
  - Paulus
    
    Who ?
    
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    November 18, 2018 1:27pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Cortez. The stupid one who just won a seat in Congress.
      The one that says ‘ the only difference between a billion dollars and a trillion dollars is 3 zeros, and as zero have no value, there is no extra cost.
      The one that says she did not budget for an apartment in DC because she thought she would live in the House of Representatives.
      I shit you not
      
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      November 18, 2018 3:41pm
- Steve Todd
  
  “Nancy Polosi [78] and Maxine Waters [80] should be spending time with their families, but are still clinging on to power.”
  
  Will you be saying that about Mitch McConnell in two years time (by which time he, too, will be 78) when he runs for a *seventh* term in the Senate?
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:44pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    Steve, read my comment above.
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:32pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      Done that Nuks, and responded. My point was, it cuts both ways. I’ll try and lighten up now.
      
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      November 17, 2018 3:46pm
- scrubone
  
  Power, yes. Sanity, not so much.
  
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  November 18, 2018 9:49am
ldypen

Maxine Waters should be sending time in a mental ward!
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November 17, 2018 12:08pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Doesn’t she have rights to half the reservations in the US?
  
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  November 17, 2018 12:10pm
  - Brian Marshall
    
    No, you’re thinking of Elizabeth Warren. Whose Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Great Grandparent was possibly South American Indian.
    Maxine Waters is the Black American Democrat woman who represents one of the poorest areas in Los Angeles I think. She doesn’t live there of course, but goes on and on and on and on about Impeaching President Donald Trump. She’s mad, but very rich.
    
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    November 17, 2018 5:13pm
Steve (North Shore)

Not an ad but, Coalition for Trump Superstore has Tees, coins, mugs, hats etc. Some of it is free, just pay postage worldwide.
Trump 2020. MAGA
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November 17, 2018 12:14pm
Rich Prick

Is there enough formaldehyde in the world to keep her smelling fresh for 2020?
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November 17, 2018 12:21pm
tas

Ms. Clinton lost an unloseable election. She should never live down the shame of that. Democrats should badmouth her at every turn. She should be afraid to show her face in public. The idea of her running again should make democrats sick.
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November 17, 2018 12:22pm
adamsmith1922

Only if the Democrats have a death wish
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November 17, 2018 12:34pm
- scrubone
  
  If??!
  
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  November 18, 2018 9:50am
DJ Ward

Bill voted with his penis. Rejected Hillary for Monica.

Trump: Kellyanne, what’s your opinion?

Trump drops his pants.
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November 17, 2018 12:42pm
coolas

Doubt Clinton will make it through the primaries. She’s spoiled goods and past her use by data, full of hate and hubris.

Democrat contender for President 2020 is wide open, and wouldn’t be surprised if someone like Lupe Valdez is chosen as candidate.

Someone who appeals to minorities, women, and youth, is the person to beat Trump.

But wouldn’t be surprised if the Dems fuck it up and choose Elizabeth Warren or Bernie, who Trump will totally abuse and humiliate. He’d find a much harder demolishing a Latino or Black.

Yep: it has to be Lupe, Oprah, or Michelle for President 2020.
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November 17, 2018 12:49pm
- Fentex
  
  Many are talking of Beto O’Rourke – though David Frum thinks that would be a mistake.
  
  His argument is, and it seems valid to me, that there is “No Progressive Majority in America”.
  
  Meaning it would be a mistake to think that the country wants a ‘Progressive’ (I really dislike that term) just because of who Trump is.
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:03pm
- Steve Todd
  
  Bernie had his chance, but couldn’t pull it off. He is now too old; in January 2021, he will be 79 years old).
  
  Elizabeth Warren had a chance in 2016, but decided not to stand in Hillary’s way. She is unlikely to stand against a sitting president in 2020. Then, she, too, will be too old. In January 2025, she will be 75.
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:34pm
  - Jules99
    
    The nomination was stolen from Bernie (see Wikileaks and subsequent admission by Donna Brazile), but he then fell into line and followed Hillary. Suspicion is he was paid off rather generously (or blackmailed).
    
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    November 17, 2018 4:43pm
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      US$650000 house on the Hudson River?
      Just a rumour
      
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      November 17, 2018 5:10pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      @Jules99
      
      Well, if Bernie is now just bought-and-sold scum like the rest of them, then coolas certainly has nothing to fear. That would mean Bernie-2020 would have no show of blazing across the firmament the way Bernie-pre-July 26, 2016 did.
      
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      November 17, 2018 5:20pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        My attempt to hyperlink the word “scum” failed. I was trying to link to this Chris Hedges article: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/scum-vs-scum/.
        
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        November 17, 2018 5:27pm
- Steve Todd
  
  “Yep: it has to be Lupe, Oprah, or Michelle for President 2020.”
  
  None of these three ladies will be sworn in as president on 20 January 2021.
  
  Lupe is openly gay, and will be 73.
  
  Oprah is just messing with us. She has no intention of running. For one thing, she has no political experience, and she is currently registered as an Independent. Also, she’s too nice, IMHO. Trump would crucify her.
  
  Michelle is not interested. She’s enjoying life too much to contemplate getting into the cesspit with a man she openly despises. Although she would give as good as she got, the process would sicken her. From her Wikipedia entry:
  
  “Despite speculation that she would be running for president in 2020, Barack Obama stated during a campaign rally in Nevada that Michelle would not be running for president in 2020. Michelle has previously stated that she has no passion for politics.”
  
  I’m surprised you didn’t include *my* early pick, Kamala Harris. She has the right Democratic credentials, is totally qualified, and would have devastating comebacks for whatever garbage Trump threw at her. Indeed, I suspect she would eagerly anticipate getting down-and-dirty with him. And, in January 2021, she will be 56. Perfect. From her Wikipedia entry:
  
  “Kamala Harris has been considered a top contender for the 2020 Democratic nomination for President.[154][155] She has publicly stated that she is “not ruling it out”.[156] Her spending on Facebook advertising is unusually high, and targeted to reach voters outside California.[157][158] In July 2018, it was announced that she would publish a memoir, another sign of a possible run.[159] She also stumped for candidates in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and South Carolina.”
  
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  November 17, 2018 7:11pm
  - scrubone
    
    Harris is also nuts.
    
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    November 18, 2018 9:53am
    - Steve Todd
      
      Nonsense.
      
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      November 18, 2018 10:05am
Fentex

In a country of more than 300 Million with a very distinct two party political system I find it strange there’s so few promising candidates for President.

I feel like it ought be, with two years to go until the next election, that the opposition ought have several potential candidates working on making their names known by now.

And if people who lost to the incumbent were itching to have another go they ought be over-shadowed by the promise of others.

It seems bizarre that no one seems to want to stand up for the Democrats by now except people who lost last time.
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November 17, 2018 1:22pm
- RightNow
  
  Avenati 2020!
  
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  November 17, 2018 1:45pm
  - RightNow
    
    By which I mean there’s plenty of dem potential candidates, it’s just that they’re all flakes.
    
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    November 17, 2018 1:46pm
- Viking2
  
  The only one campaigning lately is Obama.
  Want him back?
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:47pm
  - tas
    
    Obama for Vice President? It’s legal.
    
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    November 17, 2018 5:46pm
    - Steve Todd
      
      According to https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/former-president-becomes-vice-president/, your assertion that “It’s legal” is Unproven. I go further, and say you are wrong.
      
      The last sentence of the Twelfth Amendment states, “[…] no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”
      
      Section 1 of the Twenty-Second Amendment states, in part, “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.”
      
      After reading the article linked to, above, I conclude that Barack Obama is ineligible to be Vice President of the United States, because he is now “constitutionally ineligible to the office of President” by virtue of his having already been elected twice to that office.
      
      But, hey, I could be wrong (and you, right). As the article concludes, “this is an interpretive legal issue that, should it ever arise, would have to be decided by the judicial branch of the U.S. government.”
      
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      November 18, 2018 2:51am
      - softail 1450
        
        S T, Thanks teacher,,,,,,
        
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        November 18, 2018 9:14am
      - Steve Todd
        
        Just keeping it real.
        
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        November 18, 2018 10:21am
      - Bluegrass
        
        Nice broad-brush analysis.
        
        The legislative intent would seem to be fairly clear, but the Constitution is increasingly becoming irrelevant in the real world, viewed by a changed demographic (thanks to the 1965 Hart-Celler Act) as a quaint document evidencing out-dated shibboleths concocted by old dead white men…
        
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        November 18, 2018 6:53pm
      - tas
        
        Steve Todd: my comment was a non-serious prod at the democrats’ penchant for reheated candidates.
        
        That said, the 22nd amendment prohibits being *elected* more than twice. It does not prevent holding the office and you can become president without being elected via the vice presidency. So I think a literal reading of the law says it is legal. Ultimately it comes down to someone trying it (very unlikely) and how the Supreme Court feels about it.
        
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        November 18, 2018 7:05pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        @tas
        
        I realised you were having a bit of fun, tas (but not that your comment was a “prod at the democrats’ penchant for reheated candidates”—who did you have in mind?), which is why I threw in that concession to you at the end of my response. Nevertheless, I couldn’t let your assertion lie, because I disagreed with it and didn’t want it taking hold among Kiwibloggers when it is, as we both agree, unproven.
        
        The Twelfth Amendment can’t be ignored. Is Barack Obama constitutionally ineligible to the office of president? Answer: Yes. Why? Answer: Because he has already been elected twice to that office. Therefore, because he can no longer *be* president, he is not eligible to be Vice President.
        
        I hope the question “Can a former president become Vice President?” is never tested; certainly not anytime soon. Let’s face it, if Clinton or Obama tried it on, the SCOTUS would rule it unconstitutional. If Bush 43 had a crack, it would, in all likelihood, rule it constitutional. Unfortunately, given the current partisan political environment, that’s the way things are going to be in that court for a long time to come.
        
        I’ll leave you with this. What do you think would happen if Bush 43 became president again, via the office of Vice President (especially if he and the president had been beaten in the popular vote, but won the Electoral College)? There would be pandemonium, don’t you think? I think so. A twenty-eighth amendment, clarifying the intent of the Twelfth and Twenty-Second Amendments (especially the latter), would soon be promulgated, I’m sure.
        
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        November 18, 2018 10:56pm
      - Steve Todd
        
        @Bluegrass
        
        I agree, the legislative intent would seem to be fairly clear, but, unfortunately, it is not clearly expressed.
        
        The US Constitution is certainly very much in need of a major overhaul. That would best be done by drafting a completely new, replacement document. But, can a proposed Amendment to the Constitution under Article V be interpreted to mean a complete re-write? Who knows?
        
        Assuming Article V only allows for continuing ad hoc amendments to the base document, I would love to see an amendment abolishing the useless office of vice president and providing for special elections to replace a president who dies or resigns.
        
        It would also necessarily provide for the Senate to choose its own presiding officer, distinct from the position of majority leader.
        
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        November 19, 2018 12:17am
      - Steve Todd
        
        @tas
        
        Further thoughts.
        
        Amendment XXV, Section 2 states—
        
        “Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.”
        
        Consider this scenario. In November 2017 (when the Republicans had a majority in both Houses of Congress) Mike Pence resigned the office of Vice President – the reason doesn’t matter. President Trump nominated former president George W. Bush to fill the vacancy. Bush accepted.
        
        What then? One thing is for certain. There would have been an almighty reaction from all sections of American society. The nomination almost certainly would not have gone to both Houses of Congress for confirmation in the straightforward way that President Nixon’s nomination of Gerald Ford did.
        
        Why not? Surely the answer is because of the last sentence of Amendment XII, which states—
        
        “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States[.]”—
        
        not because of the first sentence of Amendment XXII, Section 1, the relevant part of which states—
        
        “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, […].”
        
        The fact that Bush 43 cannot be elected president a third time is not in doubt. What would have been in doubt was his eligibility subsequently to become the Vice President sometime during 2018. That doubt would have arisen because of Amendment XII.
        
        It would have immediately been noted that the doubt as to his eligibility to be Vice President was exacerbated by the possibility that his confirmation in the Senate could lead to him becoming president a third time. For example, what if Trump were to have a massive stroke on the campaign trail, say, in early September 2020, and dies a few days later.
        
        If Bush is occupying the office of the Vice President, he could not then be prevented from becoming president in accordance with Section 1 of Amendment XXV, which states—
        
        “In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.”
        
        But then, he would constitutionally be required to terminate his campaign (Amendment XXII) and the Republicans would have to hurriedly organise replacement presidential and vice presidential candidates. What a mess!
        
        To me, Amendment XII settles the matter. In this regard, I reproduce the relevant part of my response from last night (10:56PM), suitably amended—
        
        “Is George W Bush constitutionally ineligible to the office of president? Answer: Yes.
        
        “Why? Answer: Because he has already been elected twice to that office.
        
        “Therefore, because he can no longer *be* president, he is not eligible to be Vice President.”
        
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        November 19, 2018 11:30am
MCos

I would suggest there’s no chance that Hillary will be the the Democrats’ nominee and a quite good chance that Trump won’t be the Republican nominee either if a strong alternative presents themself.
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November 17, 2018 1:52pm
- Fentex
  
  I don’t think it’s certain Trump will run again – but if he chooses to it doesn’t seem, to me, all that likely anyone would get nominated by Republicans ahead of him.
  
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  November 17, 2018 2:05pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Last Polling I saw showed Trump had 90% support from Republicans.
    The mid terms have cleaned out the never Trumpers.
    People forget that in Congress the GOP had 39 candidates leaving. So that 39 seats candidates didn’t have the advantage of incumbency and name recognition.
    I thought they did pretty well to avoid the Blue Wave.
    All those Trump supported (generally) did pretty well.
    If he wants to run, he will be the nominee.
    Will he? Only if he doesn’t achieve all he wants to and if he cant see someone good enough to support and continue his ‘legacy’.
    He is getting older too.
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:01pm
    - MCos
      
      As the great man would say – We’ll see what happens.
      He can’t keep flogging the same horses.
      The wall isn’t going to get built.
      Hilary isn’t going to get locked up.
      Nth Korea is pulling the wool over his eyes.
      California is burning and sooner or later the rest of the country is going to realise something ain’t quite right with the climate
      The ME is a millstone around the neck of whoever is the incumbent President & Saudi Arabia is a loose canon and so are Iran & Israel.
      The debt is eye watering due to the tax cuts.
      
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      November 17, 2018 4:00pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        The first section of the Wall has just started. Only a few miles but it’s started. Over 100 miles of three foot fencing is being replaced with wall.
        A Federal Court has just ordered Hillary to answer under oath questions about her Email security- thanks to Judicial Watch.
        Nth Korea has stopped all testing and firing rockets over Japan. They have continued to meet with Sth Korea as they build a relationship. There’s no evidence they are building more rockets.
        In California the budget for Forest Management was slashed from 191 million to about 20 million so they stopped clearing out the undergrowth and making forest break roads (but yeah the Climate caused it,no wait, it was a campfire)
        For the first time the Saudis and Israel are cooperating. Sanctions are back on Iran limiting their cash to spend on terrorism.
        Debt to GDP ratio has peaked and has now dropped. The economy is booming thanks to Tax Cuts. Growth is now consistent not up and down like under Obama. Shall we talk unemployment numbers? Debt reduction will eventually happen and Trump is slowly and steadily slashing department budgets of waste which will help.
        I note that under Obama, with his no Tax Cuts that Debt doubled.
        Hey, here’s a thought.
        You really don’t know fucking anything.
        
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        November 17, 2018 4:30pm
      - softail 1450
        
        Mcos ,another KB bullshitter ,dont let the facts get in the way of your comments you moron.
        
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        November 18, 2018 9:18am
krazykiwi

Dem vote fraud. A good summary by The Pointman. Extracts:

Brenda Snipes, who’d already been found guilty of election irregularities years ago, was still somehow in place in Broward county supervising the voting, which came up with 634,000 votes on election night and because their favoured candidate, a Democrat, hadn’t won, managed to unearth another 83,000 uncounted votes over the following days and the number is still going up. At I write this, she’s actually given out five numbers for votes cast so far.
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Machines in districts of Detroit tallying more votes than there are people eligible to vote in them.
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New Jersey re-elects Bob Menendez, who’s been charged with 14 counts of corruption and it is alleged he was using under age prostitutes in the Dominican Republic. Re-electing a corrupt pervert? Seriously? In conservative America?
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Georgia’s Habersham County’s Mud Creek precinct in northeastern Georgia had 276 registered voters ahead of the state’s primary elections in May, but somehow managed to have 670 ballots cast which works out at nearly a 250% turnout. How obvious does it have to be?
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Over a 1000 voters in Broward County have the same registered home address as a UPS store. Illegal, need I say.
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The Dem party machine texting legal residents to vote who are not citizens and therefore not eligible to vote.
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- All_on_Red
  
  What about how in Broward, even after all the fiddling and the recounts, the result showed the GOP candidate actually increased his vote by 719.
  So Snipes withheld publishing the result until minutes after the deadline so the extra votes wouldn’t be added!
  
  One fight I’m surprised about is how McSally gave up against Sinema in Arizona so easily.
  Some dodgy shit there too.
  
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  November 17, 2018 3:06pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Dem vote fraud is like climate ‘science’: Decide the outcome that the little people must accept, then adjust the data to deliver.
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:18pm
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  Krazykiwi. who is The Pointman?
  
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  November 17, 2018 3:30pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Have a look at the link Moronboy
    Hey, have you had a good day perving at the mall?
    
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    November 17, 2018 3:33pm
simonway

Mark Penn is just making shit up.

He was the guy who ran Clinton’s disastrous 2008 campaign — it should be obvious to anyone that the person in charge of that debacle doesn’t actually understand politics and doesn’t have good political instincts.

He got the boot after that. He doesn’t really have much in the way of insider connections any more.

Take anything he says with the largest rock of salt you can find.
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