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artemisia

“KiwiBuild has become Housing Minister Phil Twyford’s tar baby”

And Kiwibuild is a ‘bewildered beast’. So says Bryce Wilkinson in his new research note on housing affordability from the NZ Initiative published yesterday. (It is on their website.)

Next question. Will Ms Ardern’s upcoming Cabinet reshuffle extricate Mr Twyford from the clutches of his very own tar baby. Or will his predicament continue to be a source of much amusement to those of us in the industry (and not in a good way).
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January 23, 2019 8:01am
- oldgolfer
  
  Continue, I suspect, to the amusement of Kiwibloggers and to the chagrin of anyone wanting a house.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:06am
  - Paulus
    
    Why bother – today Tauranga, the housing capital of New Zealand ??, has on Trade Me 333 houses for sale at under $550,000.
    Many are brand new.
    There is enough approved house sections in Tauranga to build 5,000 new houses.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:25am
    - artemisia
      
      The affordability calc used is median house price to median household income. The latter will be skewed in Tauranga because of the higher than usual proportion of the retired. Most of whom own their own homes anyway.
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:09am
    - Viking2
      
      Been there done that 4 times before since I have lived here.
      
      Totally predictable over build both in Auckland and in Tauranga.
      
      There will be a few who get caught out as usual.
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:17am
  - Viking2
    
    And ~~Kiwibuild~~ Twyford is a ‘bewildered beast’.
    
    Fixed that for you’se all.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:20am
- Southern Raider
  
  Will they publish the true cost of operating KiwiBuild for last 12 months?
  
  There would be millions in management fees, offices, consultants in addition to all the subsidies when these houses were getting built by private industry anyway
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:11am
  - artemisia
    
    Top 5 employees in the Kiwibuild Unit on salaries over $200,000.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:20am
    - Rich Prick
      
      What do they do all day. Obviously not build houses.
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:52am
    - Viking2
      
      200k for nothing. Not a bad record.
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:18am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Plus the payoff to the former Chief Executive.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:21am
    - Inandout
      
      Is the former CE lawyering up?
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:59am
  - Ultima
    
    One of the first employee at Kiwibuild dept. was not a builder but failed journalist Rachel Smalley as their PR spin doctor.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:11am
- graham
  
  Are we still allowed to use the expression “tar baby” then?
  
  Surprised all the SJW’s haven’t howled in protest, the same way they screamed about the expression “lipstick on a pig”. Because apparently, “being offended” is far easier than taking two minutes to use Google to find out the original meaning of a phrase.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:17am
  - artemisia
    
    I’m sure Bryce Wilkinson chose the term carefully.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:50am
    - sooty
      
      Nigger in the woodpile!
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:11am
      - starboard
        
        Quickly now, light that woodpile.
        
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        January 23, 2019 11:09am
- hullkiwi
  
  We may all down tick Hugh, but Hugh and his friend have helped put the spotlight on the failures that are Phil Twitford and his housing policy.
  
  After yesterday’s post poor efforts by Chippie, Twitford was on Red Radio giving us gems like the target of 1000 KiwiBuild homes by July is dropped and that he can’t reconcile 267 signed up buyers for SlimBuild versus 46,000 people clicking the website.
  
  The gem was him trying to explain that we really do have a housing crisis and that it it is not manufactured.
  
  In summary it would have been best had he avoided going on Red Radio this morning. Because Espiner helped prove that Twyford really lives down to being called Twitford.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:19am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Twyford’s interview with Hosking on Newstalk ZB this morning (just after 7am) was a complete and utter train-wreck. Hosking went for the jugular early on, and wouldn’t take any of Twyford’s bluff and bluster.
  
  If Jacinda Ardern wants to save Kiwibuild, she needs to reallocate the portfolio immediately, as it will never succeed with Twyford at the helm. Then again, who could she give the “bewildered beast: to?
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:24am
  - Chris R
    
    It is Twyford’s propensity to speak pompously and condescendingly which really irritates me! His tones really are a veneer to cover his incompetence and the futility that is Kiwibuild. For Twyford to say “it was never going to be easy” is absurd given Labour spouted the ease with which they were out to solve the alleged “housing crisis” yet now….different and sad stories abound.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:38am
    - sooty
      
      No sucker, would want to touch it with a barge pole after Twitford has stuffed it up!
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:13am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Let’s not forget that Labour’s original plan was to build 10,000 houses a year for ten years. Then that got pared back to 1000 by July this year, and 5000 more by July 2020.
      
      He’s clearly not going to hit this year’s target, and almost certainly will miss out on next year as well. That means we will head into the 2020 election with, to used Twyford’s own words “a generation locked out of the housing market”.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:36am
      - Chris R
        
        KS: I think I prefer the option of having Twyford locked out of parliament for a generation.
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:59am
      - Viking2
        
        The only one that seems to be making targets is Jones with his hand outs.
        
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        January 23, 2019 10:38am
      - Komata
        
        KS@0936
        
        But, but it hasn’t been NINE YEARS yet, so we can’t blame National…
        
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        January 23, 2019 11:54am
  - calendar girl
    
    “If Jacinda Ardern wants to save Kiwibuild …”
    
    Surely she doesn’t want that; it’s another dog:
    – taxpayers’ money splashed around inequitably;
    – housing purchased by Government at prices beyond the reach of those most in need; and
    – a Minister in charge who is well out of his modest depth.
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:45am
    - waikatogirl
      
      …but Cindy promised everyone a house. Not another lie surely? ?
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:52am
- Morrissey
  
  “…from the New Zealand Initiative.”
  
  AKA the National Party.
  
  Worthless politicking posing as “analysis.”
  
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  January 24, 2019 9:47am
Captain Mainwaring

So Al Gore is singing the praises of our chosen Prime Minister.
I think that tells us all we need to know about the SLG.
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January 23, 2019 8:02am
- Longknives
  
  I almost puked when I saw her sitting smugly next to Attenborough..
  Labour are about to bombard us with ‘Cindy saves the World’ Propaganda (Just as soon as they Airbrush the photos to hell)
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:04am
  - brett68
    
    Apparently big climate change/climate taxes legislation on it’s way around October.
    
    Expect wall to wall climate end time propaganda on all media platforms for the foreseeable future.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:12am
    - Chris R
      
      brett 68: The loss of Leighton Smith will become even more apparent when the climate change nonsense is ramped up to justify more taxes!
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:39am
    - Longknives
      
      Old White Men must pay!
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:15am
    - KevOB
      
      We’re ready to remind them of the deceit, lies and ambition beneath the claims of stoppable global warming with all the wealth grabbers attached.
      
      When are they going to let the undeveloped have electricity to protect their health?
      
      SJW’s with their heads in the sand.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:29am
  - G152
    
    The dowdy shelia and the monkey porn master sat together.
    Could be another natural life video in the offing
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:13am
    - Longknives
      
      I see she wore the trusty old ‘Cankle Boots’ again. (Christ they must be just about worn out)
      They weren’t as obvious with trousers though…
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:17am
      - sooty
        
        The cutdown red bands!
        
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        January 23, 2019 12:30pm
  - Sacha
    
    I don’t think many will be fooled. We all know that those happy wedding photos can hide a lot of family discontent.
    I suppose it keeps the airbrushers and photo-shoppers employed.
    Ardern will have no idea of what’s happening back in NZ, until she gets home and turns on the tv, and by then today’s events will have become last week’s news as far as the MSM are concerned.
    She will be able to start with clean slate –
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:22am
- howzit
  
  I used to be a fan of Attenborough until they started wheeling out the old fossil to beat the climate change mantra. It’s a shame John Laurie isn’t around to tell us, “we are all doomed” (Lt Frazer from Dads Army)
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:09am
  - Sir Leslie Bottocks
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EH1G4EwljM
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:36am
  - Morrissey
    
    Science. Don’tcha hate it! Those “scientist” fuckwits think the world is round as well. You and I and Leighton and Larry—we all know that it’s flat.
    
    https://images.theconversation.com/files/49230/original/cvr52gm8-1400733017.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=926&fit=clip
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:11am
    - howzit
      
      Scientology doesn’t count Morrisey. Have you seen an actual debate by actual scientists on Co2. I have and only the so called “deniers had actual scientific evidence. The pro club which you are obviously in showed pictures of weather and have theories based on human made ineffective models.
      
      Fact versus fiction but I guess that is nothing new to you, now piss of and attend that sperm bank in your but crack
      
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      January 23, 2019 4:56pm
- RalphT
  
  And about Al Gore’s judgement.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:09am
  - Longknives
    
    Ha Ha Remember when Al and Tipper were trying to ban Rock music in the 80s?
    Both fucking fruitcakes…
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:11am
  - Paulus
    
    But Gore is a billionaire now !
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:18am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      He was always in the money..
      He was into Tobacco in a big way…
      http://www.wbdaily.com/blog/al-gore-tobacco-climate-change/
      
      https://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/us/critics-take-aim-at-al-gore-over-former-tobacco-farm.html
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:49am
    - KevOB
      
      Gore is in the trading carbon credits business. Gore new an opportunity. His enthusiasm is really marketing.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:34am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    With no evidence to support her claim, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is claiming that the world will end in twelve years.
    
    https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/1087705220614946816
    
    Democracy sure throws up some strange outcomes!
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:27am
    - softail 1450
      
      K S, I figure she meant 2012 (aztec prophecy ) but she is so thick she became confused and forgot that 2012 has already been and gone.
      The good news for AOC is that the pommie labour party have someone even more stupid, Diane Abbott, seriously ….. google this racist fuckwit….
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:48am
    - Longknives
      
      She also does that weird ‘Jesus Christ pose’ thing with her hands when she is talking.
      Just like Jacinda!
      Did they room together at their ‘Socialist Sorority’?
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:20am
    - Rich Prick
      
      She and Cindy are evidence that socialism thrives in an intellectual vacuum.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:33am
      - Jack5
        
        Intellectual vacuum? Jacinderella dreams of winning the world’s first Nobel Prize in ~~public relations~~ “communications”.
        
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        January 23, 2019 10:14am
    - Fletch
      
      AOC is as dumb as a box of rocks. She said that climate change “is our World War II”. Huh? A blogger points out that WWII was our WWII – America was there and fought in it… lol
      
      https://www.facebook.com/RantNationBlazeTV/videos/386705975418126/
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:33am
      - Ed Snack
        
        So if it’s their WW2, when do they drop a couple of nukes to end it, and on who ?
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:44am
    - KevOB
      
      Good. Now we know we can ignore her. None of these predictions have ever come to pass.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:35am
    - MrTips
      
      It just might. Nutters like her will burn it rather than lose the chance for power.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:55am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Made him a billionaire
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:16am
- secondcumming
  
  You’re right there Capt’n!
  
  Talk about being in good company. There’s no doubt that this *Ocasio-Cortez* isn’t the sharpest sandwich in the drawer either.
  
  Remind you of anybody?
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxiJSYEXcAYHcer.jpg
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:15am
  - Sideoiler
    
    ….Talk about being in good company. There’s no doubt that this *Ocasio-Cortez* isn’t the sharpest sandwich in the drawer either.
    
    Remind you of anybody?
    
    Ocasio-Cortez and Ardern are absolute proof you don’t have to be terribly bright to end up with your hands on the levers of power.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:37am
    - MCos
      
      Ocasio-Cortez has been in congress five minutes and already she’s had media exposure from her opponents that world leaders can only dream about and she’s quick witted enough to use it to her advantage. The dance video was a classic.
      She tosses out a few left wing talking points and that’s all that seems to count in American politics for the cloth eared masses.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:01am
      - Inandout
        
        MCos, even your average flasher gets ‘exposure’.
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:03am
      - kowtow
        
        And what about here , the minute Labour rolled Little and installed Adern they shot up in the polls , though there was no new policy announcements …..
        
        …..”isn’t she lovely” , “breath of fresh air” , ” I usually vote national , but she’s so caring I’m voting Labour ”
        
        FFS. Stop bagging the Yanks and look closer to home for idiot , low information voters.
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:11am
      - Longknives
        
        “even your average flasher gets ‘exposure”
        
        Lisa Lewis for PM!
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:22am
      - LTA1955
        
        Mass Distraction while the Religion of Peace moves its pieces on the world chess board. Wakeup America!!
        
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        January 23, 2019 10:02am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        voters flooded from Greens in wake of MeTu fraud admissions (16 July) to Ardern (leader 1st August) so it’s debatable it was all Ardern. Labour picked up almost nothing from the middle (maybe 2-3% from NZF maybe 1% from national).
        
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        January 23, 2019 11:26am
- hullkiwi
  
  After hearing Gore was lyrically over the SLG, my only thought was Thank God he never became POTUS, because his judgment is most definitely lacking.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:50am
- Ross12
  
  Do not forget Gore was one of the first foreigners to ring up Ardern when she was made PM. Roped her in “nice and early”.
  About 6 months ago I said to a friend that I thought NZ was about 10+years behind the rest of the world in this climate debate debacle. By that I meant other countries have gone down the political road on it and are now realising it is a sham and are quietly moving away from it (eg. Germany has been building new coal fired power stations in recent years –their transition failed. Japan is also doing the same etc.)
  This year could prove me right or wrong, with regard NZ.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:30am
  - Sacha
    
    NZ has always lagged behind – when Labour administrations rule. Given a free rein by a National government, we gallop forward –
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:32am
- RF
  
  Yep maybe but take a look at Attenborough all hunched up with arms crossed and defensive.
  
  He was not pleased with choppers.
  
  He had the – “who farted in the lift” expression on his face..
  
  Reminds me of the UN speech where the cleaning staff had to sit down and wait until Ardern finished speaking to her captive audience of 10 plus squirrel and loverboy.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:28am
- Komata
  
  Captain@0802
  
  Curiously, this seems appropriate and perhaps explains the SLG’s actions:
  
  ‘There is no one here beside me.
  And my problems have all gone.
  There is no one to deride me.
  
  But you got to have friends.
  The feeling’s oh so strong.
  You got to have friends
  To make that day last long.
  
  I had some friends but they’re gone,
  Somethin’ came and took them away.
  And from the dusk ’til the dawn
  Here is where I’ll stay.
  
  Standing at the end of the road, boys,
  Waiting for my new friends to come.
  I don’t care if I’m hungry or poor,
  I’m gonna get me some of them.
  
  ‘Cause you got to have friends.
  Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, friends.
  That’s right you, oh you, yeah you,
  I said you gotta have some friends,
  I’m talkin’ about friends, that’s right, friends.
  Friends, friends, friends.
  
  I had some firends, oh, but they’re all gone, gone,
  Someone came and snatched them away.
  And from the dusk until the very dawn, you know,
  Here is where I gotta stay, here is where I gotta stay.
  
  And I’m standing at the end of a real long road
  And I’m waiting for my new friends to come.
  I don’t care if I’m hungry or freezin’ cold,
  I’m gonna get me some of them.
  
  ‘Cause you gotta have friends,
  That’s right, friends, friends.
  I gotta me my, I gotta me my, I gotta me my,
  Look around and see all of my friends.
  Oh, friends, that’s right, friends, friends,
  Friends, friends, friends, friends, oh,
  Friends, you gotta have friends…’
  
  ———————
  Songwriters: MARK KLINGMAN, BUZZY LINHART
  Friends lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:01pm
Longknives

Hollywood has outdone itself with the Virtue Signalling-Black Panther and Black Klansman both nominated for Academy Award Best Picture.
Anyone out there still believe this is a legitimate awards show?
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January 23, 2019 8:02am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Black Panther was a great movie which I enjoyed immensely, but in no way is it worthy of a best picture nomination.
  
  I have not seen Black Klansman, so cannot pass judgement.
  
  That being said, I watched and enjoyed Bohemian Rhapsody, and Rami Malek was brilliant, but Best pic at Golden Globes was a bit of a stretch.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:17am
  - Inandout
    
    I used to like the old black balls lollies.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:04am
    - KevOB
      
      They had white stripes too. That was unmentionable as it would have implied mixed races.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:44am
      - secondcumming
        
        My uncle was telling us that when he came out of his Apprenticeship, they put Nugget on his 😎
        
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        January 23, 2019 1:26pm
    - jonno1
      
      You can still buy ’em in Greytown (RRM take note).
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:04am
      - KevOB
        
        And in Oamaru.
        
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        January 23, 2019 12:30pm
  - Longknives
    
    I have seen all the Marvel movies and think the quality has been plummeting since they went all Virtue Signalling and Political.
    Remember way back when the first Iron Man movie had a Black Sabbath/AC/DC soundtrack and was 100% pure action and entertainment? (And Tony Stark was a mad rooter?)
    Compare that to the utter PC crap the franchise is spewing out now…
    I mean ‘Wakanda is what Africa would be like if the White Man hadn’t colonised’? Give me a fucking break…
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:26am
    - SGA
      
      Remember way back when the first Iron Man movie had a Black Sabbath/AC/DC soundtrack and was 100% pure action and entertainment?
      
      Well… the more recent Thor Raganok was high on the action and thrashed the hell out of Led Zep’s Immigrant song 🙂
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:53am
  - calendar girl
    
    I thought ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ was outstanding.
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:54am
- Im Right
  
  Been hijacked Longknives by #metoo, radical feminists and the virtue signalling left. And not just the Oscars, basically ANY award ceremony. Look at NZ sports awards, for years now we have separate Maori sportsperson of the year and Maori team of the year (even although these same Maori winners are also in the ‘regular’ award picks) it’s basically the left infiltrating every day aspects of life and if anything doesn’t seem ‘fair’ it’s lambasted in social media, the Oscars had it’s lowest viewing figures last year, I have no doubt they will slide year after year as movies/actors/directors are given Oscars for bad acting, bad movies but the recipient is black/gay/female etc etc.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:20am
  - Biscuit
    
    Agreed, Im Right.
    
    Give it a year or two and there’ll be Oscars for:
    
    * Best Performance By An Actor/Actress Identifying As LGBTQWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM
    
    * Best Performance By An Actress Denouncing Some Studio Boss For Some Foul Act He Committed 20 Years Ago And Which She Only Now Feels Able To Complain About
    
    * Best Performance By An Actor/Actress That Will Smith Approves Of
    
    * Best Anti-Trump Performance By An Actor/Actress In A Leading Role
    
    * Best Autocue Reading Performance By A Host/Hostess At This Year’s Oscars Ceremonies
    
    * Most Believable ‘Oh I’m So Pleased For The B*stard’ Handclap By A Losing Nominee
    
    Oh, how I wish to see the speech that begins:
    
    ‘I understand it’s the norm now for me to praise everyone I ever met.
    Beginning with ‘Thanks, Mom, for the toilet-training.’
    But, you know, this is my award.
    Mine!
    All mine!
    I won it.
    Deservedly.
    The other nominees were cr*p.
    Get off my stage, you losers.
    Oh, they never came up, right?
    Well, get out of my theatre, then…’
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:36am
    - pdm
      
      Are you okay Biscuit?
      
      Should I call a Doctor or an ambulance?
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:44am
      - Biscuit
        
        pdm, Jaynie told me y/day that on the day the Oscars are telecast ‘live’ here I have been ‘nominated’ to be the one to ‘dress smartly, smile often, and serve canapes and breezers to the six girls who’ll be here with me.’
        
        I am sorely tempted to ‘dress’ in just a black tie … tied around you-know-what….
        
        I am so down on the Oscars already!
        
        You going to the Creekit today? I’ve got tickets for India’s two games at the Cake Tin…
        
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        January 23, 2019 8:49am
      - SGA
        
        I am sorely tempted to ‘dress’ in just a black tie … tied around you-know-what….
        
        It may be hard to find one the right size. One from a Ken doll perhaps? 🙂 🙂 🙂
        
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        January 23, 2019 11:01am
    - Sponge
      
      Or something like this….
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R7elhS5sng
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:49am
- MCos
  
  Never heard of Black Klansman, so I googled it. 95% on rotten tomatoes website so it’s obviously well thought of.
  What did you think?
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:41am
- oldpark
  
  Yes especially in 1924 the Democrats appointed a top judge to the Supreme Court of that country USA. They conveniently and completely could not see a problem ,even though the new Supreme Court Judge was the head of then KKK at that time.
  Yes the same Party that CNN and all their NZ Mainstream Media sycophants and arse lickers copy and support totally. Especially in NZ led by that bastion of denial of reality fake news TVNZ.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:54am
  - SGA
    
    Well… 1924 was about 100 years ago, and I doubt that most political parties from that era (if they had even been formed back then – National wasn’t formed until 1936) would recognise their modern incarnations.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:58am
    - Im Right
      
      2SGA, if 1924 was ‘too long ago’, then why are the USA leftie millenials calling for statues of people from the 1700/1800’s that built that country to be removed? They turn a blind eye to the slave owning democrat presidents of yore it seems.
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:49am
      - SGA
        
        Personally, I don’t get my knickers in much of a twist about most long-dead historical figures. The past is a different country, and so on.
        But that’s not the issue here – political parties aren’t individuals, and to expect that political parties now are exactly the same as they were 100 years ago seems very strange to me (but not to you, obviously).
        
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        January 23, 2019 1:05pm
holysheet

Adam and Eve are wondering wether they are black or white. Eve says why don’t you go and ask god. So Adam goes into the garden of eden and shouts out to god “are we black or white?
big booming voice bellows out YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.
He immediately goes back to Eve and tells her that they are white. How do you know asks Eve. Because he said you are what you are Adam replied. Why does that mean we are white? asked Eve. Because if we were black he would have said “You is what you is.”
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January 23, 2019 8:02am
- Sofia
  
  Although I may invite the deepest ridicule, I would respectfully suggest the above account does not reveal the ethnicity of Adam and Eve, but rather that it is GOD, having said YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE rather than YOU IS WHAT YOU IS, who is indeed white, not black.
  Black lies matter … sorry … holysheet
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:42am
stigie

With more electricity being used now and into the future, will we be importing more coal from around the world..?

“But with gas supplies tight late last year, Genesis ran the two Rankine units on coal for much of October and November. The company also ordered 120,000 tonnes of Indonesian coal for delivery in December and January to maintain supplies”.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/01/general_debate_23_january_2019.html#respond
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January 23, 2019 8:04am
- stigie
  
  Sorry this is the link !~
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12194335
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:08am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Summer is only just here. Hot and dry.
    You know what that means for the hydro lakes.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:57am
  - Fletch
    
    Here’s the money quote –
    
    Sise said the higher cost of imported coal and the “bleak” outlook for longer-term gas supplies – given the government’s offshore exploration ban – have also contributed.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:38am
- Southern Raider
  
  Balance of payments fucked
  
  Why isn’t this front page of the Herald? Where is the mining unions crying out about loss of mining work?
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:13am
- peterwn
  
  There is no intention that the traditional coal fired units be a permanent part of NZ’s power generation ‘base’. The intention is to use them only if there is shortfall with other generation – less water or wind than average. Genesis was going to scrap them – they were no longer needed to meet Genesis’s needs. It was Meridian who needed some contingency generation and it was more economic to retain the Huntly machines for this purpose than for Meridian to provide contingency generation (most provably low capital cost high running cost gas turbine).
  The situation is attracting attention as they are actually needed at the moment because of low inflows. Otherwise they would be sitting idle but un-noticed.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:48am
godruelf

So Genesis is burning more coal than over the last 5 years. Looking forward to my next dividend payment. Only downside is that we are having to import the coal. Fuck the Greens
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January 23, 2019 8:07am
- alex Masterley
  
  I would have thought that the solid energy mines at Huntly would be firing up to provide the coal needed.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:50am
  - stigie
    
    The coal in NZ is far too good to burn Alex, better to import shity coal with a bigger footprint..? //
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:59am
  - KevOB
    
    The problem with energy needs is dynamic and immediate Also electricity has to be produced to demand. It’s not like water in a continuous stream from the generator but is pulsing at 50 cycles a second. That’s the critical bit which the devices using it expect. The demand and the instantaneous supply have to be tightly matched to keep that AC frequency constant within narrow limits. Backup capacity in big chunks is tough to manage.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:57am
    - Viking2
      
      Like I said early this morning a Greens Own Goal.
      11000 electric cars to charge, Tewai using more power, 300,000 more heat pumps (becuase we aren’t allowed wood fires etc.) Any number you like to dream up (ask Phil), new houses and new buildings using the d’stuff called electricity.
      
      Surplus electricity gone again already.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:24pm
- peterwn
  
  It is partially factored into dividends already. After being previously screwed by the Electricity Authority when offering power to the market at a very high price during a planned transmission line shutdown south of Huntly, Genesis announced plans to scrap the remaining two machines since they were uneconomic to keep if they were going to be screwed by the Electricity Authority again. So Meridian and the Electricity Authority were forced to do a deal with Genesis paying Genesis to keep the machines available for the market. Genesis played a cool game with this.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:00pm
secondcumming

*Brett* comes through for ‘The Donald’ 😎

The US Supreme Court has voted 5-4 to reverse the lower-court decision of allowing fags to serve in the military……

Wait for the squealing & wailing !

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1087720508513308673
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January 23, 2019 8:07am
- Urban Redneck
  
  The purpose of a military when it comes to the crunch is to kill your enemy and destroy his infrastructure. It is not a place for left wing social experiments particularly involving psychologically disturbed individuals who think that ones biological sex is merely a state of mind.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:12am
  - MCos
    
    The vast majority of the American military doesn’t indulge in any killing or destroying. Even in WWII only 10% of the personnel served on the front line.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:14am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘It is not a place for left wing social experiments’
    
    Oh yes it is.
    
    ‘Two Army Green Berets are fighting for their military careers after being associated with an anonymous email that accused their commanders of lowering standards to enable more soldiers — particularly female — to graduate from its prestigious Q-course.’
    
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/15/exclusive-green-berets-targeted-after-anonymous-email-exposed-lowered-standards/
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:18am
- Fletch
  
  I wonder how long Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to last? She is looking a bit shaky. She was hospitalized after a fall and missed the last court session. Heck, Fox even mistakenly put up a screen of her obituary….
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:42am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Most people (including me) would wish her well and hope that she recovers properly from her operations. However one would have to doubt that she remains up to the demands of being a Supreme Court justice. Lung Cancer surgery is not a trivial operation at age 85.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:50am
  - All_on_Red
    
    She’s got pneumonia
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:59am
  - Fletch
    
    If she decided to retire and Trump had to nominate another person – man, not sure if we’re ready for another round of Democrat hate and slander at whoever steps forward to accept.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:24am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Because we are not racist or sexist or judgemental with regard to sexuality from now on we will only be accepting nominations for black lesbians.
      
      Liberté! ~~égalité!~~, ~~fraternité!~~
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:44am
    - Viking2
      
      Not going to retire. One of the others stayed on forever and she thinks she should as well.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:26pm
holysheet

Cannot wait for the cries of outrage at the USSC voting to support Trumps ban on the LGBTwhateverthefuckyouare members serving in the military.
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January 23, 2019 8:07am
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A very disappointing start to the year with the National reshuffle.

Simon Bridges has appointed Paula Bennett as ‘drug reform’ spokesperson but both launch into petty politics.

And both insist on a proper debate before the referendum (that’s already happening’ but say they would probably vote no anyway.

Their anti-reform politicking is negative and out of touch. It’s not just Bridges that is the problem for National. This is backwards for them.

Bridges and Bennett say they want ‘drug reform’ debate but would vote no anyway
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January 23, 2019 8:07am
- Longknives
  
  Personally I thought Paula came across extremely balanced and well on TV this morning.
  Chloe Swarbrick resorted to pulling faces and behaving like a petulant child…
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:10am
  - Paulus
    
    Swarbrick is a petulant young child.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:20am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Chloe has said she wants to discuss this with Paula. Paula says great.
    Popcorn time! ?
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:21am
  - Sideoiler
    
    …Chloe Swarbrick resorted to pulling faces and behaving like a petulant child…
    
    Chloe must have a Bachelor of Communication Studies qualification as well.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:44am
  - sam green
    
    Really? Bennett got owned by and intelligent and informed person half her age.
    
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    January 23, 2019 3:48pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      No
      
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      January 23, 2019 4:36pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Shit Sam, you’re as much of a fuckwit as Morris Minor.
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:13pm
      - sam green
        
        Ad hominem? Great debate dude.
        
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        January 23, 2019 10:45pm
- Pascal
  
  You’re spinning it. Quoting from the MSN article:
  
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  She said if the referendum was being held tomorrow she would vote against it. She agreed there was still plenty of time for an informed debate, however, “questions we’ve given them (the government) thus far, from what we could see they hadn’t even been thinking about…”
  //
  
  It’s one thing to have a sensible policy around reform, for example age limits, impaired driving, etc. It’s another to just say “you can now use marijuana as and when you like”. We’re still in the stage of Labour not knowing what to do and quite rightly, if the referendum came up tomorrow sensible people would vote against it. Not because they don’t want to push ahead, but because pushing ahead without a sensible framework in place is foolish.
  
  And Bennet is rightly pointing out the government policy on this is confused as they’re trying to be both smoke-free, low taxes on alcohol and legalising marijuana at the same time.
  
  All three those things should be treated the same.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:14am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You don’t expect Pete to tell the whole story do you Pascal? After all, if he told the whole story, he’d have nothing to get outraged about.
    
    On Twitter he described Bridges and Bennett’s attitude as “petty partisan”. I disagree; the referendum will be an individual conscience vite, and I would expect every MP to vote with the conscience, not blindly follow the party line. If you want “petty partisan”, look at the way that the government rammed through its decriminalisation by stealth medicinal cannabis legislation, whilst voting down all amendments put forward by Dr Shane Reti who had spent the best part of a year researching the issue, and had come up with an alternative Bill that was far superior to the legislation in front of the Parliament.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:32am
    - Viking2
      
      FFS how many years into your dotage are you going to put off doing anything about anything.
      
      This discussion has been going on now for about 50 years that I can think of.
      
      If you haven’t learned anything in that 50 years that tells us something about the problem.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:31pm
  - MCos
    
    The referendum isn’t coming up tomorrow. It’s towards the end of next year.
    In my opinion legislation should be prepared beforehand so that the voters know exactly what they’re letting themselves in for.
    Two recent examples show how to run or not run a referendum.
    In the case of the flag when we were asked did we want a new one we knew what it would be.
    In the case of Brexit the voters didn’t and now that the campaigning is shown to have been vastly different to the reality it’s too late. As with our flag they should have had a final vote after the house had agreed on the withdrawal agreement.
    Personally I don’t think we need a referendum at all. The house can decide. Then if they fuck it up they can make major changes themselves without another referendum.
    Public polling would suggest that legal marijuana is coming, but a point of contention is going to be age.
    So if the referendum says 18 and it soon becomes obvious it should have been higher, does Parliament have the right to overule the people?
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:44am
    - Pascal
      
      In terms of the timing and what needs to be done before the referendum, you and Paula Bennet seem to be in perfect agreement. Which is the point I was trying to make to Peter George, who appears to be confused about what the National Party stance is on this.
      
      In terms of parliament overruling the will of New Zealand? I want to do a Nelson point and laugh now.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
      
      I don’t think Parliament should have that right, but when has the will of New Zealand ever stopped Parliament from doing whatever the fuck they want?
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:58am
- thedavincimode
  
  Looks like traffic at the beige badger’s place is a bit slow at the moment.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:30am
  - secondcumming
    
    The creek may have run a bit dry.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:46am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Labour wants the election to be all about cannabis, not about the performance of the government. National would be foolish to let that happen. They can just sit back and let the public have their say first, then formulate a policy.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:17am
- Sofia
  
  Swarbrick – let the recreational use: the “high” of cannabis serve the medical need.
  National – use the suitable cannabis extracts to met the medical needs.
  ______
  reference –
  The Green Party Misuse of Drugs (Medicinal Cannabis and Other Matters) Amendment Bill, member’s bill : Chlöe Swarbrick, said –
  medicinal cannabis means any form of cannabis referred to in this Act, including (without limitation) any cannabis plant, preparation, or derivative, that is cultivated, supplied, or possessed (as the case may be) solely in order that it may be used by a person with a qualifying health condition for therapeutic purposes
  
  National’s the Misuse of Drugs (Medicinal Cannabis) Amendment Bill (No 2), member’s bill : Dr Shane Reti, said –
  The medicinal cannabis scheme will not allow loose leaf cannabis. This is consistent with a number of overseas jurisdictions concerned with smoking reduction. The regulated cannabis extract will be manufactured as liquid or pills. Examples of dispensed products include oils, capsules, tablets and oral sprays. It is important to note that no part of the scheme normalises or advances recreationalisation or legalisation of cannabis …
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:52am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Last year the number of drug influenced drivers (79) involved in fatalities was higher than alcohol impaired drivers (70). It’s getting worse year by year, and we can’t effectively test for it at check points as we can for alcohol and so can’t effectively police it. Wider availability is going to cause a lot more deaths.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:35am
- KevOB
  
  Is this an ” I don’t like Peter George” morning?
  His reasonable comment seems to have been brutally downticked.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:04am
  - Pascal
    
    Reasonable as in: “I’ll misrepresent what the politicians have said and will link-whore to my own blog rather than the source material I’m talking about”?
    
    That kind of reasonable?
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:59am
- Viking2
  
  Completely agree. Nats have their heads up their arse in the dark.
  
  Its the Catholic in them.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:28pm
Southern Raider

What the hell is going on in Whanganui.

We are used to hearing about gang members shooting each other, but random members of the public being brutally stabbed.

It’s like Whanganui is the new London or Melbourne
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January 23, 2019 8:08am
- Keeping Stock
  
  From what I have heard, all those injured and the one deceased were from a single family, so I think this is more likely a domestic issue than “random members of the public being brutally stabbed”.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:34am
  - waikatogirl
    
    If a person feels it is necessary to take a knife to a supermarket carpark then this violent incident would seem inevitable. Sad but predictable.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:01am
    - Inandout
      
      waikato, at least the knife wasn’t wrapped in a plastic bag.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:08am
      - kowtow
        
        Knives are dangerous and should be kept in locked cabinets , secured to two surfaces , 3 mm thick , out of sight , the local arms officer should also vet the user and others in the home who have access and the users “partner” to ensure he/she is comfortable with that person having access to such dangerous weapons……
        
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        January 23, 2019 9:23am
      - waikatogirl
        
        “Knives are dangerous and should be kept in locked cabinets , secured to two surfaces , 3 mm thick , out of sight , the… ”
        
        My knives never leave the kitchen except if I’m going on a picnic. ?
        
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        January 23, 2019 12:45pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I suspect the incident spilled over into the supermarket carpark from a neighbouring house.
      
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      January 23, 2019 9:39am
- howzit
  
  Is it our first lone wolf killing in the name of Allah?
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:34am
- Wangas Feral
  
  Nah – just us ferals being feral. It is in our nature.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:01am
  - kowtow
    
    Rahui thingy ?
    
    Close the carpark for 6 weeks …….
    
    ……didn’t think so .
    
    Ko kowtow ahui hui .
    
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    January 23, 2019 12:05pm
    - Viking2
      
      But but we closed Newdicks Beach fo r a month after some old bones fell off the cliff.
      
      Oh I see different IWI.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:35pm
wreck1080

DPF …Data continues to show foreign buyers was hysteria
So the difference between foreign buyers and sellers is just 1.8%

So, what happened when they cracked down on foreign buyers…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12194306
“Auckland house sales slump 20 per cent as the foreign buyer ban hits the market”

DPF’s analysis on the Auckland housing market has usually been wrong.
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January 23, 2019 8:09am
- Milhous
  
  Correlation does not necessarily equal causation .
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:13am
- Pascal
  
  There has also been new AML legislation introduced, rental and tenancy changes signalled by the government that will impact on investors, the Airbnb taxes introduced by Auckland Council that will impact on investors, etc.
  
  I’m sure foreign buyers ban made an impact (Note they can still purchase commercial, new builds and under approval) but there are many factors in this market.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:16am
  - kowtow
    
    “AML” , surely you’re not suggestion good ole New Zealand’s property market has been used to launder the proceeds of dodgy money .
    
    Velly intellesting.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:27am
    - Pascal
      
      Maybe, maybe not. But, for example, all drug dealers in NZ now have to provide quite a bit more proof about identity, source of funds, etc.
      
      https://www.barfoot.co.nz/landlords/ask-kiri/anti-money-laundering
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:02am
- brett68
  
  There really isn’t a foreign buyer ban though, the legislation has so many loopholes in it, it’s not funny.
  My guess is that NZ is no longer considered an attractive place to invest money in.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:17am
  - burt
    
    It use to be, but now with Labour back in charge the future of New Venezealand is less favorable for investors.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:46am
- artemisia
  
  Some of the slump will be foreign buyers bringing purchases forward.
  
  But some will be local property investors, who are not building or buying as they have in the past.
  
  Before the introduction of the third round of LVRs in 2016, about 35% of new mortgage lending was going to investors, local or not. November 2018 (month) 17.5%. Talking in the billions here per quarter. Not chicken feed in the construction industry.
  
  People might say, good thing, more for first home buyers.
  
  Not if the rate of building continues to decrease, unless there is a dramatic increase in private owner occupiers who have deposits and serviceability. If developers and builders can’t sell, there is a vicious cycle under way.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:18am
  - BassilFawlty
    
    Agreed, my wife and I have discussed this a few times. If you take the investors out of the market it doesn’t magically qualify more home first home buyers for a loan. I think the net impact will be a greater housing shortage than already exists.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:22am
    - Pascal
      
      What about small-scope investors (1 – 3 properties) dropping out due to the new legislation and looking to sell their properties? Wouldn’t they provide a measure of balance in that equation?
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:03am
  - Ultima
    
    “But some will be local property investors, who are not building or buying as they have in the past.”
    
    Yes, this is what happened during the GFC where financing for developers, and buyers, dried up even though interest rates were very low. So not only the usual new housing stock were massively reduced but it also created pent up demand. Especially when the NZ economy recovered from the GFC very well with many returning Kiwis and also new immigrants arriving into the country.
    
    IMO, the GFC and the consequence of ineffective monetary policies such as quantitative easing are the main contributors the “housing crisis” we see now.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:40am
- Viking2
  
  More to it than those chaps but at least we will crash the building of superfluous housing.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:36pm
Southern Raider

Cindy on stage claiming climate change is the biggest global threat by far.

Putting aside whether this is true or not. If she was quizzed around causes, effects etc would she actually know anything or is she just on the feel good bandwagon?
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January 23, 2019 8:09am
- Longknives
  
  Communism was a pretty big ‘Global Threat’.
  How many people did Mao and Stalin slaughter?
  
  Just sayin’ Cindy..
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:13am
- Pascal
  
  Every time I see climate change I think of this:
  
  http://pc.blogspot.com/2018/12/david-attenborough-sky-is-falling.html
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:17am
- stigie
  
  ” is she just on the feel good bandwagon?”
  
  That’s why she has got to where she is today……
  Get aboard the feelz good bandwagon. “Lets do this” !~
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:21am
- waikatogirl
  
  ‘Cindy stated “many countries are doing well economically but are producing green house gases”.
  
  Well, doh!
  Cindy’s insight will be marvelled at by those attending Davos. ?
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:31am
  - burt
    
    When the reality of climate change finally bubbles up though the CO2 hysteria people like Jacinda will be looking like complete idiots. They will hide behind – “it’s what the scientists told us” but that will also be a lie, the truth is it’s what they told the scientists to tell us because they only funded them to research this physically impossible 1800’s conjecture.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:50am
    - All_on_Red
      
      She looks like an idiot now.
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:02am
    - Kabull
      
      But the scientists have not said this. The claim that 97% of scientists believe global warming is happening and it’s our fault is absolute nonsense and has been debunked by many learned commentators. Here is a simple example of how the 97% claim can be rubbished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uma-w6caJhY
      
      also important to the debate is:
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMYjzWSlI4
      
      But does the MSM want to acknowledge that the ‘majority’ opinion is wrong? No – as demonstrated by STUFF’s comment policy on its recent ‘opinion’ pieces, and by the total absence of ANY reporting of these alternate views by qualified professionals.
      What is even more terrifying is the silence of the MSM around the financial fraud being imposed on us all by the climate change fraternity. I have seen elsewhere a story about the origin of the UN climate forum and the influence of the Club of Rome from the 1960s, where the clearly stated intent was to work towards global domination – for which funding was needed. How to get that funding? Make populations – ie, governments – believe that this manufactured crisis can only be addressed by poring billions of dollars into the UN’s coffers. Ask yourselves, what do we in NZ get from our contribution to global climate funds? As far as I can ascertain, the answer is absolutely nothing.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:00pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Yeah, but what’s her favourite colour?
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:19am
  - Fixit
    
    Tell her to stop breathing out.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:22am
- waikatogirl
  
  She said “you don’t need to know anything about the science to see climate change is true”. ?
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:04am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Sooo mean
    
    https://i.imgflip.com/2rs1as.jpg 🙂
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:49am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Looks like she’s just read one of Stephies comments…
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:03am
    - Garbageman
      
      bloody hell Maggie a heads up would have been good thats a five jugger at least in old terminology
      
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      January 23, 2019 1:21pm
- kowtow
  
  Over population , corruption and economic stagnation , and migration , all third world problems heading to the west are our biggest problem ……
  
  ……can’t say that , racist you see .
  
  So to keep the low information voters in the west off balance , frightened and compliant they have created AGW as the great threat.
  
  Meanwhile the hordes swarm across our borders causing mayhem.
  
  ‘A TAXI driver suspected of savage sexual assaults on two women he picked up is still working, senior sources say.
  
  Gardai are preparing a file for the DPP after they arrested the driver over the attacks that happened more than three months apart.
  
  A source said officers had major concerns that the suspect, in his 40s and from South Asia, is continuing to work in Dublin despite a “very strong case against him”.’
  
  https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/taxi-man-suspect-in-sex-attacks-on-two-women-still-at-work-in-dublin-37734300.html
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:36am
- Fletch
  
  It’s pretty true that virtue signalers generally have no actual virtue.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:43am
- KevOB
  
  Ardern doesn’t have the ability to discern the truth about climate change. Ideology and intellect get in her way. Feelings rule in that vacuum.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:14am
Padriv Ustoev

20 percent slump in housing market after foreign buyer ban comes into place but we were all told foreign buyers were not the problem.
Who do I believe. Better vote National just in case, they would never sell us out to the Chinese, unlike Labour.
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January 23, 2019 8:09am
- howzit
  
  Let’s make decisions based on headlines, very smart idea that. Even the headline doesn’t say they are related.
  
  It’s like the headline ‘ice cream sales soar as shark attacks are on the increase’
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:41am
  - Tall Man
    
    I think Tip Top have a shark training scheme just for that purpose.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:13am
  - mark15
    
    We must ban ice cream
    
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    January 23, 2019 12:02pm
EAD_THREE

I’d like to address a line of argument used on this blog by the likes of Stephieboy, Morrissey et. al whenever it comes to discussions of racial differences. We have seen a bit of it recently with their attacks on James Watson and it is along the lines of:

“I know a Black person (usually Neil Degrasse Tyson) who is incredibly smart so your racist nonsense is wrong”.

Yesterday it was the turn of Classic Liberal when he said:

“I know people of various races that are totally into Western culture and in fact support it better than many Caucasians I know.”

This muddying of the waters by these disingenuous folk is a emotional argument but does not stand up to any proper analysis. Differences between the races only truly reveal themselves at the macro level in the differences in the averages between groups.

They seem to think that the existence of one cultured and intelligent black person disproves James Watson’s point but they are wrong.

Outliers do not disprove averages, they are already included within them. The fact that some people are on the right hand side of the bell curve does not disprove the existence of the bell curve. The bell curve could not be accurate without them. Similarly, there are many low IQ or badly socialised whites, but these are already included within the averages. They do not disprove them.

Everything always regresses to the mean. Import enough of the 3rd world and eventually you will become the 3rd world.
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January 23, 2019 8:13am
- kiwitoffee
  
  ”Everything always regresses to the mean. Import enough of the 3rd world and eventually you will become the 3rd world.”
  
  Absolutely right.
  
  It’s fast approaching time to say goodbye to Mt Roskill, once known as the Bible Belt of Auckland.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:15am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    I find you referring to the Quaran belt of NZ as the Bible belt very insulting!
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:23am
  - Komata
    
    Kiwitoffee@0915
    
    Stephie and ‘Fiends’ will be sooooo pleased…
    
    (Except that, by the original Stephie’s own admission, he doesn’t actually live IN Mt Roskill; he just likes the IDEA of it… Make of that as you will).
    
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    January 23, 2019 12:41pm
- kowtow
  
  Two minutes looking at the average white punter in the South Dunedin Warehouse would teach us a thing or two about “regression”.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:39am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Oooh, Kowtow, now you’ll be honoured by being opposed by Eadolf :).
    
    Watch classical music competitions, Eadolf, then you’ll see whether Asians are ‘outliers’ in the heights of Western culture!
    
    And whether the ones immigrating here come from ‘third world countries’.
    
    All I could agree with Eadolf on, perhaps, is that we don’t want people from intractable misogynist, homophobic, racist cultures who want to live under a theocracy.
    
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    January 23, 2019 12:50pm
    - EAD_THREE
      
      haha – there you go again liberal guy with your death cult and rather quaint ideas of individual liberty.
      
      You need to realise the game is rigged against you individualists who swear allegiance to the ideals of classical liberalism and the concept of the “proposition nation”.
      
      Those who cleave obsessively to this notion of individual liberty at all costs will be condemned to find out the hard way that the individualist strategy will always be outcompeted by the collectivist one, at least where the ballot box is concerned.
      
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-israelis-vote-overwhelmingly-for-macron/
      
      In the struggle for existence, the stakes are far too high for indigenous White Europeans to remain devoted to anachronistic principles of radical individualism that our philosophically-minded forebears had the luxury to ruminate over in centuries past when their ethnic sovereignty was neither in question nor threatened the way it is today.
      
      Our crisis is an ethnic one and a collective one. And it will require all of us to come together as an ethnic collective to solve it, peacefully if possible.
      
      Just what is the point after all of 1000’s of Chinese being able to play our Ancestors musical instruments and compositions if the descendants of those geniuses are reduced to a despised rump minority status in the countries their ancestors built?
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:55pm
Happychappy

Jacinda’s mission to save the world at the expense of NZ Economy, their is no bigger threat than climate change is her message without really producing facts, especially when NZ is importing more coal from other countries to keep our power going. Jacinda and the coalition are frauds and lying to others so she can bask in the limelight.
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January 23, 2019 8:13am
- hullkiwi
  
  Happychappy, JA’s problem is she never thinks through her actions or has a strategy.
  
  Example NZ’s energy situation, we are not 100% self sufficient in energy, but she puts in place steps that will slow down investment, that while not having immediate effect, there will be fall out in the near term. Meanwhile 2 mums Shaw and others are all banging on about the use of electric cars and other modes requiring electricity, but nothing has been done to guarantee future supply.
  
  All a case of talking up their nirvana, but with little clue of how they’ll get there.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:50pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    “JA’s problem is she never thinks through her actions or has a strategy.”
    
    JA thinking = oxymoron
    
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    January 23, 2019 1:36pm
Paulus

I see that TV3 have reopened the Lee-Ross affair with a written three page apology for the attempted phuck up he made last year.
I am sure that his very special friend Tova O’Brien remains up to her armpits in this again.
I would not more trust either of them than fly to the moon.
His sort of apology is insincere in an attempt to try and let people know that he is no longer sick and is really a nice guy.
Bullshit – he is a conniving, untrustworthy, scum and the sooner we see never see or hear from him the better although TV3 are running out of storylines.
He is still being paid of course despite his inability to properly represent Botany.
Go for a bye election and he will see that he is incapable of the role.
He appears that he is making the Police investigate a text from one of his many sleeping partners who told him, after two years, of deception, to go and do himself in.
From what I hear, and Tova will have, that if this goes forward and prosecution takes place it could well backfire seriously as others come forward to his connivance, suggested blackmail, and hit him in the face.
So he, and Tova, are still going to try and get Simon despite the hypocrisy of his statement.
Sad desperate ???man – seems he should still be under long term treatment in his best interest.
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January 23, 2019 8:17am
- Tall Man
  
  Have a peak between your legs and you’ll get the idea…
  
  Once a prick, always a prick 😉
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:12am
  - sooty
    
    Unless you get a cut and tuck!
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:22am
- Sofia
  
  Ross: I have received a personal apology from one of the women that was sent to the media by Paula [Bennett]
  
  Did Bennett organise Melanie Reid for up to a year before, to deal to Ross? –
  
  Four women have spoken to Newsroom accusing Mr Ross of incoherent rages, and seriously harassing and bulling them.
  Newsroom journalist Melanie Reid said she has been looking into the background and behaviour of Mr Ross for the past year.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/368904/four-women-accuse-jami-lee-ross-of-harassment-bullying
  
  Ms Reid told Morning Report she had spoken to some of the women over a long period of time before this week’s events.
  It looks like Melanie Reid was pre-empted (as Nicky Hager was with HIT & RUN, by Key unanticipated resignation screwing Hager’s timing up) so what was she actually working on and when did she plan using her then year-old story and to what end?
  
  And …
  The same woman who anonymously and breathlessly “leaked” to Newsroom her “story”, forgetting to mention that she had been in a three year relationship and lived with Jami-Lee Ross as his “Wellington Wife”, also sent a disgusting text message to him inciting him to kill himself.
  https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/10/despicable-text-sent-to-jami-lee-ross-by-female-mp/
  
  Ross: … it was the vivid picture in my head of 3-year-old Charlotte’s little happy face that stopped me from actually going through with doing something dumb.
  
  Ross: My plea to the 70,000 people living in my electorate is that I hope they are willing to judge me on the decade and a half I have spent serving Botany and the wider Howick area, and not that one challenging and confusing month where things fell apart for a while.
  
  • Ross said he did not initiate the complaint about the text that was sent, but said he was co-operating. So who did complain?
  • Why is this prepared Jami-Lee Ross’ statement released within 24 hours of headline “Simon Bridges vows to ‘scrupulously ignore’ Jami-Lee Ross in 2019”. Did Magic Talk’s Sean Plunket set Bridges up?
  • And how does the Ross statement happen to co-ordinate with the media announcement “Police can confirm that an investigation is ongoing into a text message sent to Mr Jami-Lee Ross”
  • Does Parliament legally pay Ross or National for the Botany Electorate Office?
  • How much will Mallard’s inquiry into Parliamentary bullying deal with this saga?
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:18am
softail 1450

Asked a question by that conservationist (LOL) Al Gore Jacinda stated “well you dont have to know a lot about the subject to see its a real thing”.
Says it all about our PM.
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January 23, 2019 8:30am
- waikatogirl
  
  …You don’t need to be around Cindy long to see she is not the real thing….
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  January 23, 2019 8:38am
- howzit
  
  Funny how the sea is only rising in the Pacific. The rest of the worlds seas and oceans must somehow not be connected. Or is there another explanation perhaps
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:45am
  - Rich Prick
    
    It’s only rising in areas that need foreign aid and where white guilt lives nearby.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:07am
  - alex Masterley
    
    It must be bits of the Pacific.
    The bits I sail on seem to be reasonably static or if there is any change it is negligibe(according to the tide gauges).
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:08am
- Komata
  
  softail 1450
  
  It’s the sort of reply an ‘absolutely certain about everything’ 15-year old would give isn’t it?
  
  Says a lot really…
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:45pm
oldpark

Heard the ‘Comical’ Chic Comrade Ardern ranting on about the myth of Climate Change. She knows alot about myths. Like how she got selected to be NZs PM by the renegade Peters.
A few easily checked facts on the Climate Change myth. Like how about the massive Hurricane that struck Galveston in 1900. Circa Ten Thousand people died. Another event of temperature and still a record in Australia. In 1960 a temperature of 50 degrees celcius was recorded.Just a couple of facts conveniently completely ignored. Reason dosen’t comply with the myth of Climate Change.
Yet over in Europe we have a small town twerp Ardern telling lies about the myth. Thanks to Peters selection of her as NZs PM. The same lies are a daily occurence by her when she struts the country of NZ big noting and making out How Great she is. Yet is reality just like the myth of Climate Change a joke.
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January 23, 2019 8:31am
- srylands
  
  Without wishing to enter into your myth claim, there is no doubt that Australia has become hotter over the last century.
  
  https://www.climatechangeinaustralia.gov.au/en/climate-campus/australian-climate-change/australian-trends/
  
  And in 1900 everyone in Galveston died because there was no such thing as weather forecasts. Today the population would simply be evacuated days beforehand.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:41am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Always convenient for the Australian BOM to take all its temperature readings from 1910… means that the collective knowledge of the Ozzie heat-waves in the 1890s fades from the record.
    
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64889112
    
    https://theconversation.com/factcheck-was-the-1896-heatwave-wiped-from-the-record-33742
    
    https://realclimatescience.com/2019/01/bourke-heatwave-update/
    
    (remember there were no satellite readings in the 1890s)
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:25am
    - stephieboy
      
      MW, who is Tony Heller ( aka Steve Goddard )
      
      I’m climate denier Tony Heller (aka Steve Goddard), Exposed. I’m blowing the whistle on climate crackpots like myself.
      
      https://tonyhellerakastevengoddard.com/who-is-tony-heller/
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:41am
  - Fixit
    
    Thermometers in Australian cities show it’s getting hotter. (UHI effect). Thermometers in the rural areas show little change. Ref, somewhere in WUWT.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:28am
Hugh Pavletich

… The looming Kiwis to Oz ‘flight to affordability’ ? …

… $100,000 a year Aussie households now likely (in local currencies) paying $100,000 less than Kiwis to house themselves ($NZ 650,000 v $A 550,000 … 6.5 v 5.5 slightly adjusted Median Multiple) … and the gap is growing …

… in other words, Aussies at this stage, are overall likely paying about one Median Multiple less to house themselves, than their Kiwi counterparts …

‘Severely unaffordable’ Oz house prices still better than in NZ | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/severely-unaffordable-oz-house-prices-still-better-than-in-nz?variant=tb_v_1

Tougher lending restrictions and a more agile construction industry is being credited for Australia’s notoriously expensive housing market being more affordable than New Zealand’s.

The annual Demographia International Housing Affordability released yesterday shows all of New Zealand’s main centres are now either seriously or severely unaffordable, with the median price 6.5 times the median household income.

The study still considers Australia as severely unaffordable, but overall the market is slightly cheaper than New Zealand’s, with median prices 5.9 times the median household income ( … actually 5.7 times … refer http://demographia.com/dhi.pdf ). … read more via hyperlink above ….
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… Adjust since Demographia data 3rd quarter 2018 …

Australian housing market falls 4.8 per cent, in biggest drop since global financial crisis – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-02/australian-housing-prices-fall-4.8pc-weakest-since-gfc/10678444
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… Discussed with Susie Ferguson Radio New Zealand Morning Report … Monday 21 January on the Demographia Survey release …

Housing in all main NZ markets now ‘severely unaffordable’ | Hugh Pavletich discusses with Morning Report’s Susie Ferguson | RNZ News

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/380511/housing-in-all-main-nz-markets-now-severely-unaffordable
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January 23, 2019 8:34am
- Swifty
  
  Did you get beaten up a lot as a kid?
  
  Wouldn’t surprise me.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:43am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Twyford on KiwiBuild: ‘It’s going to be tough to meet that target’ … Guyon Espiner interviews Housing Minister Twyford … Radio New Zealand
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/380708/twyford-on-kiwibuild-it-s-going-to-be-tough-to-meet-that-target
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    Phil Twyford defends KiwiBuild after damning report … Mike Hosking interviews Housing Minister Phil Twyford … NewstalkZB
    
    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/phil-twyford-defends-kiwibuild-after-damning-report/
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:17am
    - Swifty
      
      Heh – you did, didn’t you! 🙂
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:42am
Maggie Pie

My husbands the first to admit he’s no scientist, but he is a keen fisherman. He was wondering that with all these boatloads of Indian and African refugees putting to sea, what the possible effects there could be on our eco-system. Is it likely we will see any changes in both the physiology and appearance of Great Whites for example?
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January 23, 2019 8:37am
- holysheet
  
  Nah those great whites are too fussy to eat these darkies. I hear they are picky eaters.
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:44am
- RF
  
  I can see the great whites displaying a noticeable weight gain over the next month or so.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:51am
holysheet

Cindy says to the meeting that she was taken to a beach that the island populace used to access. Now it is under water, and she blames climate change. How about being truthful and saying the island is sinking.
Fuck all to do with rising sea levels.
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January 23, 2019 8:43am
- Tall Man
  
  “Is there a difference?..I watched the news and it told me what was happening so I have told the world and they’ll fix it”.
  
  Yeah right, we have an idiot.
  
  Ask ardern the liar the name of the beach.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:08am
- Paulus
  
  Called erosion – nothing to do with climate change – been happening for millions of years – erosion.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  Which island , which beach ?
  This is too important to let pass.
  The media play a new game , fact checking Trump .
  All the climate change claims need serious fact checking.
  Any time I’ve seen a media story about villages etc disappearing due to rising sea levels , it always turns out to be coastal erosion.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:45am
- KevOB
  
  Standby for Ardern to champion the cause of Kiribati. The population has grown so much they are compressing the coral. Once Tarawa supported 10,000 now its 50,000. The sea goes straight over the top on some tides. Foolish living or climate change?
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:27am
  - howitis
    
    It’s the weight of all those cans of corned beef and stored petrol for the ancient ritual outboard motors !
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:03am
    - Garbageman
      
      Or maybe its just like our other Pacific neighbors and its just their weight
      
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      January 23, 2019 1:30pm
- howitis
  
  I went to Browns Bay beach in the weekend.
  Where I put my towel a year ago was under water.
  This year I had to lie on the grass near the road, not the sand as I have sometimes in the past.
  
  This year it was high tide when I went.
  Somebody tell the former next POTUS, Al Whore!
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:59am
- Komata
  
  hs@0834
  
  But, but, she BELIEVES IT, so it MUST must be true…
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:51pm
oldpark

Well here comes another joke and a waste of space.
Angry Andy Little that pest and drop kick from EPMU who was in charge of safety in Pike River ,has turned up at the UN.
His mission with cap in hand and full of mea cuplas in from of a bunch of Human and Womens deniers in the UN.His words to them ,. One would think even a fughwit and clown like him would know better. “NZ is still having problems with Colonisation”.What a bloody attack on the good people of NZ and their self esteem. Trying to make them culpable for someting that may or may not happened in NZ hundreds of years ago.
Yes Peters you are also part of the gang of fughwits like Little who has gone to the UN spouting out lies. Makes one wonder is Little manufacturing the start of a race war in NZ. With a idiot like him perhaps.
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January 23, 2019 8:44am
- Tall Man
  
  Divide and conquer has been the mantra from NZ first and labour for some time.
  
  wynston the thief banging on about immigration and how he will definitely cut it, labour’s “chinky” names titbits plus feeding maori continual bullshit about “colonial oppression”.
  
  The people that voted for wynston the thief did so for the “promise” of no more maori seats…
  
  Maori voted for labour for more free stuff which drives a wedge into our community. labour were well aware that they have a core of voters, like m&m..stefyy etc who will vote labour regardless of their policies so they set their sights on maori and youg stupid students.
  
  I for one have never seen so much delightful “hatred” coming out of all political spectrums and the constant gloating by labour supporters over their “victory” while our country is being dismantled is pathetic.
  
  So, we already have a race issue and a “worker/non worker” issue which has allowed this mongrel of a coalition to arise.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:05am
secondcumming

I find that *Aziz* to be a bit of a fucking worry.

Just saying……
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January 23, 2019 8:53am
- dubya
  
  Is that the chubby camp midget dune coon on the telly? Not a fan either
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:42am
RW Capitalist

DAVOS
A chance to meet people who could have a real and profound impact on NZers lives, wages, economy etc
and who is she meeting with?
A bunch of hand wringers, with no solutions, banging on about climate change. Talking up it’s impact, creating a story of crisis (yet to come).
BUT…..not discussing real answers.
Like
Technology that may actually help not just socialist redistribution of money, that can only move the problem around.
Kennedy made it a mission to land a man on the moon and return him safely home.
There was not even the first steps to the technology required to do this at the time but by mid 1969, they had achieved it.
Where’s that re climate change?
or
Is it just a phantom, of global socialist imagination?
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January 23, 2019 8:55am
- marcw
  
  Their solution RWC is to take your money, and then give it to those countries with uncontrolled and uneducated breeders without any accountability or KPI’s. That, seriously, is their solution.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:54am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Without thought as to what those countries will do with the money.
    Build roads
    Drive cars
    Produce electricity
    etc etc
    ie contribute to more “climate change”
    Remind me again, how moving money around will fix the problem?
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:12am
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      Moving money around magics the CO2’s away and makes everyone feel much better. Much like tithing to a church gets you closer to God.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:13pm
    - Komata
      
      RW
      
      For one group, moving money around WILL definitely fix a problem; Politicians love it as it makes their retirement plans SOOOOO much more ‘comfortable, especially when they depart ‘off shore’
      
      That very, very, little money ever actually ‘trickles down’ is a minor point in such a situation and one the UN and its subsidiaries studiously ignore…
      
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      January 23, 2019 1:00pm
EAD_THREE

For anyone that doesn’t already, I highly recommend you follow Stephan Molyneux on Twitter.

He has taken the gloves off – it’s just truth bomb after truth bomb (as much as he can without getting banned from the Platform) ever since October.

https://mobile.twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1087505921381523457

https://mobile.twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1087428311846809600
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January 23, 2019 9:02am
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  EAD THREE,
  
  This comment ( truth bomb) from the first link must strongly resonate with you ?,
  
  ??Mark Clinton ⚜️
  
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  19h
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  @StefanMolyneux
  Forgive the Christian Zionists …. they know not what they do …. I am a Catholic (who loathes the Vatican Hierarchy) and I do not understand why Evangelists love Israel. This is not the Israel they think. It was a UK created Rothschild state post WW2. Jesus was from Palestine
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:10am
  - Rev Marc Pastoral care for St Albans project Ralph
    
    Hi stephie, please call into the clinic, the nurse is waiting.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:57am
Inandout

Jacinda’s voice seems to getting deeper like her mentor Helen, or has she just got a UK throat cold?
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January 23, 2019 9:11am
- oldpark
  
  Any reason is possible. Remembering her nickname at University was “Vacuum” .
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:23am
  - Inandout
    
    oldpark, but of course the teeth are not removable. There is a sucker born everyday.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:22am
    - stephieboy
      
      Inandout, I looked at the video clip that obviously deeply moved you with a likely lump in the throat stuff, well of tears and so on.
      
      Yes, the Nazi Generalship looked very impressive parading and strutting around in their regalia. A bonus with the appearance of Hitlers henchman in chief , Heinrich Himmler.
      
      A pity that this pack of ” Germanic ” losers torn to bits by the Red Amy and Western allies.
      
      Sigh!
      
      https://www.pinterest.nz/pin/537758011732817949/?lp=true
      
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      January 23, 2019 10:34am
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        Sorry all KB regulars, stephie is still severely depressed since his goat cold-hocked him last Sunday. He is having worse than his usual social breakdowns.
        
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        January 23, 2019 10:59am
  - RF
    
    I heard from another source it was Dyson. Named after a popular household appliance.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:48am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  I thought it was pure Helen as well. Scary stuff
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:09pm
lastmanstanding

Taxes are all advertising dollars. We know that 50% is wasted the only problem is we don’t which 50%.
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January 23, 2019 9:22am
Happychappy

There has three or four major stories on the coalitions Policy in the last couple of days and it makes you wonder what they are trying to hide. You have the Show Pony on Brexit and Climate change, Andrew Little trying to make out NZ is a third world Country that treat Woman badly and Justice System is broken with other minor discriminations happening, then we have Pike River and the recovery that our Police have decided not to participate in until it is pronounced as safe when other from mines safety group will enter this week. So it seems with the Kiwibuild problem also hitting the news that these story’s have been orchestrated by Labour and the coalition to hide or take the air out of something major happening in NZ Politics.
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January 23, 2019 9:40am
- Rich Prick
  
  Labour’s sex camp perp’s trial perhaps? It must be coming up soon.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:58am
Longknives

Words fail me!

https://www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/holly-willoughby-in-shock-as-white-couple-who-identify-as-black-claim-doctor-told-them-they-will-a4044816.html

Mind you- To me it is no more ridiculous than a Man who ‘identifies’ as a Woman…
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January 23, 2019 9:49am
- Morrissey
  
  Or a lout who blows smoke in an asthmatic woman’s face and gets appointed Minister of Health!
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:26am
  - Viking2
    
    Didn’t know Clark was that bad.
    Thanks for telling us.
    
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    January 23, 2019 2:46pm
- Garbageman
  
  lol im not sure the old boy has seen his junk in a few years let alone be able to use it on the reverse Michael Jackson freak he is next to
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:44pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Surely she doesn’t need to actually have black skin to identify as black? We can all identify as exactly what we like, anything else would be prejudice against us!
  
  I did meet an extremely white, blond, blue-eyed person who said they were 1/8th Maori and could have gained various Maori-only scholarships. Didn’t choose to, but could have.
  
  In this era we could all start moaning about our discriminated identity: female, old, young, disabled, gay etc etc. Even if we’re not any of those things: who’s to *tell* us were not? How dare they?
  
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  January 23, 2019 2:10pm
Manolo

Another deranged socialist and AGW prophet:
https://news.grabien.com/story-ocasio-cortez-millennials-were-world-going-end-12-years-if-w

“And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in Gen Z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.”
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January 23, 2019 9:49am
- Longknives
  
  ‘Quick- Elect my Socialist Government or the World is going to end!’
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:52am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Ah yes. As we were told the Cold War would end in nuclear war.
  
  As we have been told thousands of times over the centuries that the world is ending…
  
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  January 23, 2019 2:13pm
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GROPERS
No. 68: Unnamed Law Partner

https://imgflip.com/i/2dlbc4

…. The first incident occurred at the firm’s offices during its Friday night drinks, the committee’s decision reads. The drunk partner touched the leg a female solicitor near him and told her: “You are very attractive.” Upset, the female lawyer left but wanted the firm’s partners to be made aware of the incident while not wishing to lay a formal complaint.
Senior lawyers at the firm, including the female solicitor’s supervising partner, an employment partner, and the managing partner, then talked with the man about his behaviour. He didn’t deny his actions but said he had no recollection of them, understood by the partners to mean he had suffered an alcohol-induced blackout, the decision reads. The offending partner was rebuked by the firm and warned against any further inappropriate behaviour. He was also told to stay away from staff drinks in the near future.
But the partner’s harassment reoccurred – this time at the firm’s end-of-year party. On this occasion, the man directed his unwanted attention towards a female employee of the firm, who was not a lawyer. He approached the woman on the dance floor and pinched her bottom, leaving a bruise, the decision reads. The partner was told to stop but he pinched her bottom again later in the evening.
After the bus ride back from the function venue, he also propositioned the employee, asking her, “Are you coming with me?” The partner, the decision reads, was “visibly intoxicated” during the events, slurring his speech and walking unsteadily.
During the course of the same evening he also grabbed the woman’s wrist and forcibly squeezed her hand against his groin. He told her: “This is for you.” She immediately withdrew her hand, while another male colleague intervened to remove the drunk partner, the decision reads.
The second incident was reported by the female employee on the following Monday before the rogue partner met with the firm’s other partners as part of an internal disciplinary process.
Again, he did not deny the events but said he had no memory of them. ….
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12194212

https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/news-and-communications/news/law-society-announces-working-group-to-focus-on-sexual-harassment-reporting

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

Sixty-seven more of them HERE….
http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/01/gropers-no-68-unnamed-law-partner-jan.html
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January 23, 2019 10:03am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Daisycutter Sports Inc, is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Breen Enterprises Ltd., Purveyors of fuckwittery to the world.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:48am
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    “he did not deny the events but said he had no memory of them.”
    
    Hmmmmm…. That reminds me of someone. Who could it be?
    
    Hmmmmm….
    
    “I have no memory”….”I don’t remember”… “I don’t recall…”
    
    Help us, Cap’n, please: who WAS it that kept saying that a few years back?
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:23am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Ain’t got the balls to name him then?
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:18am
- starboard
  
  tsk tsk morris, you just don’t learn.
  Reported for link whoring
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:41pm
Fletch

Surprising that the liberal Trudeau is against the BDS movement and continues to condemn it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtFT9cD8L5I
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January 23, 2019 10:21am
- Morrissey
  
  No surprise. He’s spineless.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:23am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Did someone say “Spineless”?
    
    “GROPERS
    No. 68: Unnamed Law Partner”
    
    Name him then.
    
    You are quite correct about the man-child Trudeau however….
    
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    January 23, 2019 3:48pm
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      We’d name him if we could, Crumbers. But the Law Society won’t. So we can’t.
      
      Sorry about that.
      
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      January 23, 2019 5:10pm
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Can anybody update on this heinous groping and sexual assault incident?

Police investigate incident after Young Nats event

Police are investigating an incident following a Young Nationals event in central Auckland last week in which a teenage woman reported inappropriate touching and behaviour by a male Young Nats member.
The incident occurred after the group’s Christmas drinks at the Brew on Quay bar last Tuesday. At least two MPs attended the event.
It is understood the woman, aged 17, and some friends went to the young man’s apartment near the bar as they were moving to another karaoke venue. They say he had told them he was a wealthy political party donor and there were drinks at his place.

The woman was taken to a room where he allegedly grabbed her face, tried to kiss her and keep her from her friends, at one stage pulling her away from them by her wrists. When she got out of the room and left the flat she was pursued across a road and to a fast food outlet’s toilet area as the man allegedly continued to try to grope her.
She reported the matter to police, who involved detectives who took a statement from her over one and a half hours – and then took her to tell her parents what had happened.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108890577/police-investigate-incident-after-young-nats-event
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January 23, 2019 10:23am
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  Thanks, stephieboy. Good work! We’ll put Hector Stoop onto this as soon as he arrives.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:24am
- KevOB
  
  Insp. Clouseau has been assigned.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:34am
  - Morrissey
    
    Have you noticed, Ken, that Clouseau always gets his man?
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:13am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Didn’t this happen about 6 months ago? And trying to link it to the National Party is desperation indeed.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:50am
  - Rich Prick
    
    It’s a poor attempt to draw an equivalence with Labour’s Freddie Fingers.
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:00am
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    Christmas drinks, Cap’n. Would Christmas drinks have been “6 months ago”? Methinks your trying to delink it from the National Party, and to pretend it happened “6 months ago” is, in fact, desperation of the most desperate and doleful hue.
    
    https://www.offset.com/photos/downcast-man-in-pea-coat-in-field-168528
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:10am
- Rev Marc Pastoral care for St Albans project Ralph
  
  The lithium has been dispensed, but it will take a few hours to take effect sorry.
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:00am
- Sacha
  
  You haven’t told us the end of the story!
  Is it possible that the situation has been dealt with appropriately by all concerned, and that they consider it a private matter.
  The young woman has possibly learnt to be more selective in choosing her social intimates, and the young man has possibly learnt that his sexual advances may not be acceptable to just any casual female acquaintance.
  Using this case as some sort of defence against the Labour youth camp allegations doesn’t hold water – the camp was held under the jurisdiction of a group that assumed responsibility for the well-being/safety of minors.
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:26am
Maggy Wassilieff

Wonder how the Greens and Jacinda feel about NZ launching US Military satellites

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12194485
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January 23, 2019 10:42am
- Morrissey
  
  We’ve had this problem before, when those scumbags at Infratil (May They Roast In Hell) and Rakon (MTRIH) were helping with the destruction of Iraq.
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:17am
  - Morrissey
    
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    A supporter of the mass murder of Iraqi civilians has registered with us. Maybe he/she knows someone employed by Rakon or Infratil.
    
    Shame on you, and shame on your friend/relative/acquaintance. He or she is going to Hell.
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:29am
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      Bit extreme there Morrissey
      What happened to the ‘Happy Go Lucky’ chap who was cracking jokes yesterday?
      
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      January 23, 2019 11:33am
    - starboard
      
      Hee hee..I hold shares in Rakon, morris.
      What ya gunna do about it, eh?
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:37pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      The downtick/uptick ratio tells a story about what sensible people think of you Morris Moron.
      Keep up the fuckwittery.
      
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      January 23, 2019 3:44pm
      - Morrissey
        
        ?????
        
        Sensible people?
        
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Djc6kypVsAEbOrV.jpg
        
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        January 23, 2019 5:14pm
  - srylands
    
    You probably have an ownership stake in Infratil via your Kiwisaver. Anyway, I’ll humour you. What have they done that has upset you?
    
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    January 23, 2019 11:45am
Sofia

Pike River re-entry: Police won’t be among first inside mine after risk assessment raised safety concerns

Pike River widow Anna Osborne said on Tuesday she understood police would go in eventually, but not until it was made safe. A police spokesman said discussions with the agencies were “ongoing”
She had been told training of re-entry staff would ensure “nothing is compromised by making it safe”.
– https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110096334/safety-first-before-police-pike-river-mine-reentry

Andrew Little, Minister in charge for Pike River Re-Entry, needs to explain how the investment the tax-paying public has, and their trust in a genuine investigation will indeed not be compromised, considering the substantial conflict of interests some of those involved do have.

Unless there is a police presence right from the moment of re-entry, many could see the entire inquiry aspect, to determine the tragedy’s causes, as a mockery.

And why is this item – timed 22:06, Jan 22, 2019 – seem to not appear this morning on the stuff site as it did 12 hours ago?
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January 23, 2019 10:58am
- RF
  
  The police have been signaling their reluctance to go into the mine until there are guarantees its not going blow again.
  
  This is Groundhog Day … think back several years.
  
  Monk and his crew do not give toss about others being injured or worse.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:27pm
secondcumming

Probably something worth sharing with the group……. I discovered last night that a candles flame smells a lot like burned nose hair.
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January 23, 2019 11:05am
- Sacha
  
  A failed Darwin test? LOL.
  
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  January 23, 2019 11:29am
- Komata
  
  SC
  
  Do tell? (And no, we won’t ask how you came by this knowledge; some things are better left unsaid)
  
  We WILL however think a lot…. (Just saying).
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:07pm
  - secondcumming
    
    To be honest Komata, my missus had bought some *scented candles*……. and when I got home the silly bitch asked me if I liked the smell.
    
    Wimmin, eh…..
    
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    January 23, 2019 1:42pm
rightoverlabour

How come there is no hysteria from the media about this?

Or does it not fit the narrative?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/winter-snow-storm-cripples-central-europe-190106093559301.html

https://www.foxnews.com/us/niagara-falls-becomes-icy-spectacle-as-frigid-temperatures-bring-breathtaking-views

Get ready for the ice age chaps…. Based on reliable science and good data, and no IPCC input…
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January 23, 2019 12:07pm
- stephieboy
  
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  rightoverlabour,
  
  Extreme weather events and climate change,
  
  “The UN’s recent alert that the world has at most 12 years to prevent climate catastrophe was a landmark moment. Never before has the threat of irreversible damage been so close.
  
  Starting now, massive cuts in man made emissions are essential if global warming is to be kept to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels by the end of this century. Even half a degree beyond that will significantly raise the risks of drought, floods, extreme heat and poverty for hundreds of millions of people, as well as dooming all the world’s coral reef systems and, probably, Arctic sea ice.
  
  Even now, at 1.1C of warming, the world’s climate is already entering dangerous territory.
  According to data from the Centre of Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters, in 2018 so far approximately 5,000 people have died and 28.9 million have needed emergency assistance or humanitarian aid because of extreme weather.
  
  Here is a global calendar of this year’s major disasters. Scientists say these types of event are becoming more frequent and intense as emissions rise and the planet heats up. The map shows the scale of the human impact, from January to the end of November.
  
  The human impact of 2018’s climate disasters…”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2018/dec/21/deadly-weather-the-human-cost-of-2018s-climate-disasters-visual-guide
  
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-change-and-extreme-weather/
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:18pm
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    The longest and most reliable database of hurricanes is of US landfalling ones. NOAA’s Hurricane Research Division has carefully reanalysed the original records of all hurricanes up to 1960. Its HURDAT database shows that there has been no increase in the frequency of hurricanes or major hurricanes (Category 3 and over) since the start of the record in 1851. Prior to Harvey, no major hurricane had hit the US since Wilma in 2005, the longest such period on record. In 2017, for instance, two major landfalling hurricanes – Harvey and Irma – hit the US, but this is not unusual. In 1893, for instance, there were three, a number repeated in 1909. The record year for landfalling hurricanes was 1886, when there were seven. Only
    three Category 5 hurricanes have hit the US mainland: the Labor Day hurricane in 1935, Camille in 1969, and Andrew in 1992.
    
    Data provided by HURDAT also shows that recent hurricane activity in the North Atlantic has not been unusual by historical standards. In 2017, there were six major Atlantic hurricanes, but the highest total recorded was eight in 1950. Of last year’s six, two were Category 5 – Irma and Maria – but again, this is not unusual, having occurred five times previously, including in 1932 and 1933.
    
    Historical data shows that Atlantic hurricanes, particularly major ones, were much more common between about 1930 and 1960 than in the following three decades. Since 1990, the numbers have returned to the earlier levels. It is widely accepted that this pattern is linked to the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO), a natural reoccurring cycle of temperature changes in the sea surface temperatures.
    
    A database of global hurricanes is kept, with data going back to 1970. This shows an increase in the number of major hurricanes and their accumulated energy between 1970 and 1993. This is associated with the AMO cycle too. Since 1993, there has been a decline in the frequency of all hurricanes, major hurricanes and accumulated energy.
    
    In summary, there is little evidence that global warming has resulted in more hurricanes, or more intense ones in recent years. On the contrary, available evidence confirms that hurricane and major hurricane frequency has been similar in many prior periods.
    
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    January 23, 2019 12:32pm
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      The UN IPCC also specifically warned against trying to give significance to these exciting weather events.
      
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      January 23, 2019 12:37pm
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      All on Red, where did you c and p that cherry-picked date from?
      
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      January 23, 2019 1:02pm
      - softail 1450
        
        septicboy ,baaaah,baaaaah,baaaah, burp !!
        The same place you get all your shite from …
        
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        January 23, 2019 1:11pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        As the piece says “. NOAA’s Hurricane Research Division”
        
        You really are quite stupid eh FakeNewsStephie
        
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        January 23, 2019 5:20pm
- Inandout
  
  We have had extremes of weather for centuries, and we musn’t forget we are but a grain of sand in the universe, immensely affected by the sun.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:29pm
- rangitoto
  
  If it is unusually cold then it’s weather. If it is unusually warm then it’s man made global warming. We used to call it winter and summer in the old days.
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:05pm
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David Attenborough tells Davos: ‘The Garden of Eden is no more’

Human activity has created a new era yet climate change can be stopped, says naturalist

“ Sir David Attenborough has warned that “the Garden of Eden is no more”, as he urged political and business leaders from around the world to make a renewed push to tackle climate change before the damage is irreparable.

Speaking at the start of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos, Switzerland, the 92-year-old naturalist and broadcaster warned that human activity has taken the world into a new era, threatening to undermine civilisation.

“I am quite literally from another age,” Attenborough told an audience of business leaders, politicians and other delegates. “I was born during the Holocene – the 12,000 [year] period of climatic stability that allowed humans to settle, farm, and create civilisations.” That led to trade in ideas and goods, and made us the “globally connected species we are today”.

That stability allowed businesses to grow, nations to co-operate and people to share ideas, Attenborough explained, before warning sombrely: “In the space of my lifetime, all that has changed.

“The Holocene has ended. The Garden of Eden is no more. We have changed the world so much that scientists say we are in a new geological age: the Anthropocene, the age of humans,” he declared.
In a stark warning to the world leaders and business chiefs flocking to the WEF this week, Attenborough warned that the only conditions that humans have known are changing fast.

“We need to move beyond guilt or blame, and get on with the practical tasks at hand.”….”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/21/david-attenborough-tells-davos-the-garden-of-eden-is-no-more
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- stigie
  
  Ok, so it’s us human that is fucking the climate up……
  Well, who would have thought. I must vote Greens next time !~ //
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:32pm
- KevOB
  
  Climate change will go when he goes.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:34pm
Manolo

An unenviable pair: Attenborough and Gore!
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January 23, 2019 12:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo, suggest you stick to your Cosmology preschool primer!
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:00pm
  - MrTips
    
    Suggest you stick to cheese grater glory hole testing SB.
    
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    January 23, 2019 1:02pm
- MrTips
  
  AttenGore: noun, verb, disease: an unfortunate cluster of mortally fatal genes that result in hypocritical, perfidious and cynical theft of taxpayer funds and attention. Phenotypically have two classes of symptoms; well groomed snake oil and dementia ridden belief in one’s own importance.
  AttenGore can strike anyone, but has a strong lineage in those of media or political persuasion. A third, highly over-expressed enamel bearing phenotype is also debated but it seems of little importance.
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:07pm
MCos

Want to know why Saudi women want to leave the country
‏الشياطين الداخلية التي تحرض الفتيات على التمرد يجب أن تصفد بقوة المصلحة الوطنية والصالح العام وينفذ فيهم شرع الله كمفسدين بذات الحزم الذي قطعنا به دابر الإرهاب، ولن أكون مازحا لو اقترحت ساحة حي السفارات لتنفيذ الأحكام
@alehaidib

”The internal devils who incite girls to rebel must be eliminated forcefully for national and general interests and we must subject those corrupters to God’s law in the same way we applied it to contain terrorism. And I am seriously suggesting the Embassy area for this”

The chap who has 250’000 followers on Twitter is a
columnist in well-known newspaper Okaz and is calling for the public execution of women who want to control their lives.
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January 23, 2019 12:40pm
- simpleton1
  
  Some cultures and religions remove those “internal devils”, for the preservation of honor, as advised by moderate devout faithful leaders.
  https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019/01/22/nineteen-arrested-in-uganda-fgm-raid_c1882414
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:52pm
- Swifty
  
  Sick creeps.
  
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  January 23, 2019 12:54pm
- simpleton1
  
  The islamic system is submission, to be a slave for allah.
  Chairman of the International Union of Muslim Scholars,
  received eight international prizes for his contributions to Islamic scholarship,
  one of the most influential such scholars living today.
  So one the moderate modern muslims keeping islam alive.
  
  Muslims leaving Islam – is a grave danger to the Muslim community and that it is the duty of all Muslims “is to combat apostasy in all its forms and where from it comes, giving it no chance to pervade in the Muslim world”.
  In February 2013, Qaradawi stated on Egyptian television that the application of the death penalty for those who leave Islam is a necessity, stating, “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_al-Qaradawi#Apostasy
  
  Such kindly understanding and teachings from a moderate, pious, devout, faithful, muslim, that helps guide 1,5 billion followers in the ways of a “perfect man” , Mohammad
  Islam, a political system of total life control, a deadening opiate for the masses.
  
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  January 23, 2019 1:26pm
  - Swifty
    
    Totalitarian fascists using religion as a cloak.
    
    They threaten the peace of the whole world with their vile, inhuman ideology.
    
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    January 23, 2019 4:20pm
Komata

Swifty

And, if the CoL has its way, coming to a house near you…
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January 23, 2019 1:09pm
kowtow

With all this global warming alarm scare tactic stuff going on , whodda thunk you’d still need an ice breaker in summer ?

‘China’s only icebreaking research ship has been showered with 250 tonnes of ice and snow after hitting an iceberg in the South Pole, breaking the ship’s mast but injuring nobody on board.’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-23/chinese-icebreaker-damaged-after-hitting-iceberg-in-antarctica/10738848
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January 23, 2019 1:12pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  You think many icebreakers go to Antarctica in winter?
  
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  January 23, 2019 3:01pm
  - softail 1450
    
    MMA,Winter would be the safest time to go ,very little chance of hitting an iceberg and of course they do go down there in winter,obviously not to crash their way through impenetrable thick ice…..
    
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    January 23, 2019 3:12pm
Chuck Bird

Andrew Little comments to the UN borders on treason. He excuses the high Maori crime rate on colonization and I am not sure who he blames the abuse of women on.

Labour has a history of cover-ups when it comes to sexual abuse of young women and young men.

I hope when Parliament resumes soon that Little is asked if he does not consider his comment borders on treason and if not why not?
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January 23, 2019 1:22pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  You need to do a little research on what ‘treason’ means.
  
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  January 23, 2019 2:56pm
  - fernglas
    
    “the action of betraying someone or something”. Telling the UN that our Justice system is broken is a betrayal of everybody who works in it.
    
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    January 23, 2019 3:20pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Most commenters on Kiwiblog do think our justice system is broken.
      
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      January 23, 2019 4:04pm
      - fernglas
        
        Not in the same way Little does. They’re both wrong, but for different reasons. Like all justice systems, it needs work and doesn’t always produce the outcomes individuals want, but that doesn’t mean it’s broken, just that it needs a tune-up
        
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        January 23, 2019 4:19pm
- KevOB
  
  What has colonised that angry little brain of our Justice Minister?
  
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  January 23, 2019 3:36pm
- Komata
  
  Cb @1322
  
  Can you REALLY envisiage Simon asking that question? It might hurt someone’s feelings if he did.
  
  Based on past performance it will probably not even occur to him to do so…
  
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  January 23, 2019 8:48pm
starboard

Another good read , Cullen trying to screw us hard.

Sign up and support.

http://www.taxpayers.org.nz
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January 23, 2019 3:14pm
KeaRea

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/22/new-york-senate-passes-bill-legalizing-abortions-up-to-birth

State of New Yirk. Abortions legalised to moment of birth.

Full 9 months.

Is it really about female health. At this point.
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January 23, 2019 3:40pm
Chuck Bird

There is a discussion on Radio Magic about Comrade Ardern being asked about asking Gayford to marry her. Does anyone think if Gayford married her it would make an honest woman of her?
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January 23, 2019 3:43pm
- Longknives
  
  Are they still together?
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:06pm
- DigNap15
  
  No she likes being the world first unmarried leader and having the world first bastard child to a world leader.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:25pm
  - sooty
    
    Who’s radio magic?
    
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    January 23, 2019 5:05pm
    - Chuck Bird
      
      They bought Radio Live, formerly Radio Pacific.
      
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      January 23, 2019 6:01pm
Wired-one

Twyford has just announced Kiwibuild will only have 300 homes built by this years target date. I’m calling bullshit on that figure too, I dont think they’ll hit 150. And of those, most of them were either started by National or purchased off developers, and a kiwibuild sticker attached. This government would be the most incompetent, inept, out of their depth bunch of charlatans we have ever witnessed.
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January 23, 2019 3:44pm
- Swifty
  
  Labour plucked the 100,000 houses figure out of their arses as an election bribe and have been walking it back ever since.
  
  They are both deceitful and incompetent.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:03pm
  - Wired-one
    
    Agreed, I look forward or our MSM taking Twyford and Ardern to task for this utter failure…
    
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    January 23, 2019 4:09pm
  - kowtow
    
    The 10 billion trees was also plucked out of someone’s arse , they all know it’s pure bull and yet she’s pushing it at Davos . That’s what the whole thing is . Smoke and mirrors , actually lies . And the media are lapping it all up , totally uncritically.
    
    “So if we can do anything, we will be creating legislation which embeds those targets, that ambition we need, and then right through to the basic pragmatic things. Like planting a billion trees over 10 years……..”
    
    From the same speech , more pure nonsense , again , unchallenged anywhere.
    
    “It only takes a trip to the Pacific to see that climate change isn’t a hypothetical, and you don’t have to know anything about the science or even have an argument about the science to have someone from one of the Pacific Island nations take you to one of the places they used to play as a child on the coast and show you where they used to stand and now where the water rises.”
    
    Aren’t we too a Pacific Island , can anyone in NZ point to somewhere here or indeed in any other P island and honestly point to a place that has disappeared due to sea levels rising ?
    
    And best of all , the attack on our energy security.
    
    ‘ She used the ban on new deep-sea oil and gas exploration permits as an example of transitioning economies.’
    
    “That was a significant move but that was for us about anticipating where we need to move … and saying unless we anticipate that change, make that decision now, there will be a very jarring experience for the people currently employed in those industries and that’s what transition is all about.”
    
    There you have it , shut down exploration to be kind to all the workers in that industry.
    
    Well folks , where’s the outrage ?
    
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/380722/ardern-s-plea-for-climate-change-action-be-on-the-right-side-of-history
    
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    January 23, 2019 4:46pm
    - starboard
      
      “Well folks , where’s the outrage ?”
      
      “Err..whats does outrage mean”…” is da electricity goin off again “?
      ” Im off to the TAB and get me some more ciggies”.
      
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      January 23, 2019 6:48pm
    - Komata
      
      It seems that so far (and sadly) NOTHING has come from Simon! Surely SOME sort of rebuttal is warranted from the Leader of the Opposition, even if it ‘s a very timid, ‘I disagree’?
      
      Or am I simply expecting toooooooo much?
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:42pm
- mandk
  
  in nearly 7 months, they have completed 33 and have 77 under construction.
  
  Any bets on whether Twyford is going to get the 77 completed and another 190 started and finished in just over 5 months?
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:27pm
- kiwiracer
  
  The first thing to do to try and accelerate residential construction and address land costs is to relax RMA restrictions, and that is before considering any labour force constraints.
  Though we all know about the “Labour Party” constraints.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:58pm
Captain Mainwaring

Black Caps are finding out that India is not quite the same as Sri Lanka.
All this pre-match talk of well over 300 runs……….pffft.
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January 23, 2019 4:08pm
- Wired-one
  
  Guptill still having issues with slicing across the ball, Munro yet to find his feet in ODIs. But there is hope, we are a good team, and will fight to the end.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:11pm
DigNap15

For FFS just tell us if he is a local and or is it a domestic or terrorist (muslim) attack

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12194961

That’s what I want to know and I am sure most of us want to know.
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January 23, 2019 4:23pm
- Swifty
  
  When the cops talk about ‘supporting whanau’ it’s usually a clue……in my experience – i.e. locals
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:29pm
- kowtow
  
  Nah , just a big fat nutter who hadn’t heard that we’re all about happiness and well being these days. Jacinda said so , so it must be true.
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:50pm
  - DigNap15
    
    There are a lot of these scary nutters walking around our streets.
    Do you think it is time that they were all put in a home like they used to before Labour’s reforms in the 1980’s
    
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    January 23, 2019 4:57pm
    - sooty
      
      That was Helen Clark, before she was PM. I think.
      
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      January 23, 2019 5:03pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      They showed the chap on TV One news (Face pixillated).
      He appeared to be clothed in a padded Gown.
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12194961
      
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      January 23, 2019 6:22pm
DigNap15

I have lost all respect fro David Attenborough.

If Global warming is really that close then pussy footing around with CO2 reduction by 1% and tax credits wont cut it.

A dramatic and immediate cut in something would be needed.

Starting with all the cloaf fired power statsion in India and Cghina.

Then an immediate introduction of a one child per woman policy to greatly reduce the world’s population from a projected 11 billion by 2050 to say 4 or 5 billion.

Starting with India, China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Egypt and Pakistan.
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January 23, 2019 4:33pm
- fernglas
  
  The US has more people than the last 4. Would you apply it to them?
  
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  January 23, 2019 4:47pm
  - DigNap15
    
    NO, because they can and do feed their own population and are not “useless breeders” and they provide food and security for the rest of the world.
    
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    January 23, 2019 4:55pm
    - fernglas
      
      They have more people in prison per head of population than the others. There must be some pretty useless breeders there, don’t you think?
      
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      January 23, 2019 4:58pm
      - nasska
        
        They have the “war on drugs” to build up numbers if perchance the prison muster drops below 100% capacity.
        
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        January 23, 2019 5:38pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Got to keep up a good labour supply for the prison-industrial complex.
        
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        January 23, 2019 7:26pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh Yes, Global warming is the most urgent problem in the World…
  
  Let’s remind all the little folk that we know best ‘coz we’ve got the Private jets and they haven’t.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jan/22/record-private-jet-flights-davos-leaders-climate-talk
  
  https://www.france24.com/en/20190122-never-mind-climate-change-davos-prefers-private-jets
  
  U gotta laff!
  
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  January 23, 2019 5:09pm
  - Komata
    
    Maggi
    
    Out of interest, do you (or indeed anyone) know how her NZ-ness get there? Air Force One or did she hitch with the Australians?
    
    I doubt she went ‘Commercial’.
    
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    January 23, 2019 8:35pm
    - sooty
      
      Must be commercial. Jethro did not get to notch the bedpost! So he stayed home.
      
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      January 23, 2019 8:42pm
- wiseowl
  
  If you listened carefully to what Attenborough said when he spoke with the Prince it was absolute bullshit.
  Used to be a fan.
  
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  January 23, 2019 6:01pm
mandk

@ KeaRea (3.40 pm)

Looks like they are going to permit the killing of perfectly viable babies.

It’s difficult to imagine anything more abhorrent.

The NY Senators who voted for this are moral degenerates and deserve a terrible end.
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January 23, 2019 4:36pm
- KeaRea
  
  Hmffph scrunch gurgle nurgle skrawk what was that? Oh hi Im Sarah Silverman. Don’t mind me tee hee hee. Im just busy ‘ironically’ chewing on an aborted fetus.
  
  https://mobile.twitter.com/sarahksilverman/status/962925457753628672?lang=en
  
  It’s just a joke fren. All my jokes about pedophilia, abortion and white genocide are just ‘jokes’. Don’t you like my jokes? I do. Nurgle splorf hmmm delectable zest. I don’t ‘actually’ use foreskins for my skin care tee hee hee. Don’t you know our humour has four dimensions? Nick Sandmann is hate speech. 9 month baby murdur inc is just hip hop yo.
  
  ‘Stand down’.
  
  Sigh. 9 months. How soon now til after birth abortion.
  
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  January 23, 2019 6:32pm
  - EAD_THREE
    
    What an evil, demonic “person” that Silverman is.
    
    Silverman and her lot (Amy Schumer, Bill Maher et.al) are the spawn of Satan.
    
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    January 23, 2019 9:02pm
DigNap15

Yes what is the definition of a Justice system and what is it supposed to do?

I think a justice system’s function is to find the offender and prove them guilty.
Then to punish them in a meaningful way so that their victim and society get retribution and to also deter others from committing similar crimes.
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January 23, 2019 5:01pm
DigNap15

Our justice system is broken as there is far too much random violent crime and because most sentences are far too light.
Home Detention is not a punishment.
Build some more jails.
Ratchet up the minimum sentence each year until the crime stops. It will.
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January 23, 2019 5:03pm
- kowtow
  
  “Judge Bill Hastings said Clifford’s conduct should be denounced and the sentence needed to deter others, but his previous convictions were some time ago.
  
  He convicted Clifford and sentenced him to 80 hours’ community work, and ordered the destruction of the firearms. ”
  
  That’s no deterrent , and what signal does it send to the gangs , who are the problem ?
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/110082343/illegal-firearms-found-stashed-in-wall-cavity-behind-bookcase
  
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  January 23, 2019 6:29pm
waikatogirl

From Taxpayers Union.
“Local Government Minister not doing her job:
The New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union can reveal that Minister for Local Government Nanaia Mahuta has not met with a ratepayer association since her appointment in 2017. Not even one. Given the challenge every ratepayer in the country is feeling about costs being out of control at most town halls, many will…”

Goodness, how many of us can get away with not doing any work at all and still getting paid?
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January 23, 2019 6:46pm
- stigie
  
  1/ The huge line at winz
  2/Maori caucus
  3/ Fuck i could go on !~
  
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  January 23, 2019 7:10pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  How many ‘ratepayers’ associations’ are there?Hasn’t been one in my city for many years.
  
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  January 23, 2019 7:24pm
krazykiwi

Our generation’s object lesson in the human tragedy that is Socialism:

The International Monetary Fund anticipates that the country’s inflation rate will reach 10 million percent in 2019.

Venezuela is also facing what has become the largest exodus in Latin America history. Over three million people have fled the country since 2014, and it’s expected to reach 5.3 million by the end of 2019, according to the UN figures.

Ardern is a rank amateur in this destructive ideology. But she’s learning fast.
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January 23, 2019 6:57pm
- KeaRea
  
  Lol yeah saying you’ll be sorry is going to work. ?? is the future everywhere unless conservatives learn how to into politik.
  
  Reason is dead. Just rhetoric now. If a Spic person from the bronx knows how to clapback y’all just thought on Twitter she can promise the great depression and dey will vote fo dat sister.
  
  Just get used to the idea of slavery.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:06pm
Salacious Crumb

Oh dear. Serena gone from the Aus Open. How sad.

Makes up for the Black Caps crap showing with the bat.
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January 23, 2019 7:22pm
- Kiwi_in_Paris
  
  Even better, Naomi Osaka, is still in.
  
  That’s what some would describe, as the power of karma.
  
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  January 23, 2019 10:07pm
alloytoo

Out of curiosity I googled “Megan Woods Family.”

I also googled “Kris Faafoi’s family.”
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January 23, 2019 9:05pm
- lofty
  
  I thought I would have a look at Wikipedia also alloytoo, the only apparent difference to me was that Kris’s entry described his family, and Wood’s does not.
  I am sure she has a family????
  How odd.
  
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  January 23, 2019 9:33pm
  - Viking2
    
    you could go and edit it.
    
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    January 23, 2019 10:02pm
KeaRea

https://twitter.com/lindsatopia/status/1087615777405059073

Multi cult uralism is about equality. All your white kids will equally go in the woodchipper.
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January 23, 2019 10:31pm
Hugh Pavletich

Homeowners Could Be Saying Adios to $400k … Money Morning NZ

https://www.moneymorning.co.nz/homeowners-could-be-saying-adios-to-400k/2019/01/23/
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Demographia in the news …

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=demographia&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUvIz01IPgAhWYTX0KHSBIDeoQ_AUIDigB&biw=946&bih=416&dpr=1.63
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January 23, 2019 11:21pm
- starboard
  
  “NURSE” !
  
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  January 24, 2019 12:24am
Viking2

Littles ultimate goal.

Watched the TV clip about Pike mine last night and have been left wondering whats going on here.
Is the goal to reopen the mine for production?
Is it to prove that the mine was not dangerous as he said way back in those days when he was collecting union fees?

They appear to be drilling holes into the mine in a way the wasn’t allowed previously. Are the Greens complicit in this backdoor operation.

Your favourite TV presenter was there enthusing about all this, telling us about the miles of pipe being flown in by helicopter and so on.

The people on the ground were enthusing over how the mine had got down to almost no methane. (in a coal mine?.)

The police have determined that they will not be entering the mine as it is. Either a wise decision or Labour telling them not to bother. (one never knows these days of political police).

how long before we see an open cut operation suggested?

This is the WEST COAST. They need help with work.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110096334/safety-first-before-police-pike-river-mine-reentry?cid=facebook.post.110096334&fbclid=IwAR1ax893YATAV5hHmbxC6Nl1pPSRTcjvi7XOFbtBXfgysl1vQa6_T9i7snA
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January 24, 2019 6:38am
- simpleton1
  
  Mitch Mitchell as spokesman for Pike River reentry should have some interesting questions to ask, as you allude to Viking2. 🙂
  
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  January 24, 2019 7:20am
Viking2

Given the Jim Bolger was without doubt the worst minister of Labour we have ever had the national Party need to up their act very quickly.

The working group on fair pay agreements, headed by former National Prime Minister Jim Bolger has delivered its report to Workplace Relations Minister Iain Lees-Galloway.

National Awards are foremost in the concerns with that know liar Ardern saying there will be only one or two negotiated in this term.

Back to the future for NZ.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110099566/backing-of-10-per-cent-of-an-industry-should-trigger-nationwide-process-working-group-recommends

What is Simon going to do about this?
Is he going to toe the socialist line or are the going to bring back a Bill Birch hard man.
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January 24, 2019 6:54am
- simpleton1
  
  Good point Viking2
  National Party has Dan Bidois as associate spokesman for “work place relations and safety”
  Just an associate, and no actual spokesman.
  https://www.national.org.nz/team
  It seems to have been overlooked, so Dan Bidois needs to step up.
  Would he have connections enough to know what the report may generally be considering?
  Would he have enough ‘nouse’ and power to develop a policy?
  
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  January 24, 2019 7:12am
  - Viking2
    
    He is no hard man. I question if the Nats. even know the meaning of that.
    
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    January 24, 2019 7:15am
Viking2

Now we have Smith coming out and wanting to stop foreign donations. I guess that hoirse has long gone.

One of the few things I agreed with Findlayson, even if his effort ,like Smiths, was bit belated.

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