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Happychappy

COVID-19: blame and fear for team of 5 million as Prime Minister pleads for compliance.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has pointed to personal failures of a few and stoked the fear of death by Covid, “Covid kills people…..we must never lose sight of the reasons we take these measures.”

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/124387831/covid19-blame-and-fear-for-the-team-of-five-million-as-pm-pleads-for-compliance
So the blame games startand because our amazing balls Prime Minister can’t blame National for this like she does with all other problems she faces its now blame a 21 year old and others for a problem she initiated with continual lockdowns at at every whim to scare the living daylights out of the older people of New Zealand and strengthen her grip on power in this Country.
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March 1, 2021 8:00am
- Scott
  
  Just listened to our local MP Kieran McAnulty on the radio this morning. Here in the Wairarapa he is bitterly disappointed on our behalf that the third day of the Wings over Wairarapa has been cancelled, the Golden shears has been cancelled, the Martinborough Fair is probably going to be cancelled. But he says it was the right decision???
  
  According to him countries like Israel lifted their lockdown too early, they had eliminated the virus like us but they lifted their lockdown too early and then they got the UK variant and then they have had to go into lockdown again.
  
  Here is the question that the supine media will never ask. What is the endgame here? We can lockdown for a year but once that year is over and we lift the lockdown and we open the border then the virus will be among us once again. And no one will have any immunity.
  
  Are we putting all of our hope on the vaccine? When we know that the virus mutates and no vaccine works forever.
  
  What amazes me is the level of social control we are prepared to put up with. And no one questions it. The More FM media guy was fully supportive. Kieran is a Labour Party man who will never go against anything Jacinda says.
  
  Who will actually represent the best interests of the Wairarapa? We have a couple of cases in Auckland and we have to cancel everything here. We haven’t had a case of Covid in the Wairarapa for months. But here we are cancelling our three iconic events because someone’s got the sniffles in South Auckland. It’s just complete madness but everyone is going along with it. Sad.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:04am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Blame the President of the Socialist Republic of Aotearoa
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:12am
    - Dairy Flat
      
      You’re right except for the fact she wouldn’t even be in that position if not for the spiteful Peters originally, then a bunch of unthinking sheep voting this unapologetic communist control freak the power to decide how they live their lives. The voting population of this country is staggeringly uninformed and uninterested.
      
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      March 1, 2021 8:57am
    - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
      
      Lets give credite where it is due. Depsite Chippy Hipkins saying South Auckland wont be a priority for vaccine, Das Komandant announced that they were always going to go to areas of highets need first, and by default that means South Auckland given location of airport (only soruce of covid in NZ) and location of workers at airport. There can never be a bi-partizen approach from this govt of lightweights. Sic semper tyrannis…..
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:48am
  - Frank the tank
    
    The Wairarapa voted for the Blairite in droves.
    
    You should be remarking that to people that you meet that voice frustration. When they shut up fast or then start to make up bullshit excuses then you know they voted for her.
    
    It makes no sense Wairarapa or indeed anywhere outside of the greater Auckland isthmus is anything but L1.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:23am
    - Brian McDonald
      
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      How heroic, tell other people what they should do. Try it in South Auckland sunshine.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:03am
      - alloytoo
        
        The important question, is how did it get into South Auckland.
        
        Has that been answered yet?
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:08am
      - Frank the tank
        
        More than happy to – your point?
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:25am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        And the last time you visited South Auckland, Brian? They don’t sell much Chardonnay there…
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:44am
      - Herodotus
        
        They don’t sell much Chardonnay there…
        I am sue you know Villa Maria is located there, A great chardonnay producer and … “The Ihumātao Vineyard is located in a wind protected volcanic basin on the edge of the Manukau harbour in Auckland. Free draining soils and a unique soil profile lead to the production of a very distinctive Chardonnay.” A very nice drop 😉
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:03pm
  - amospicton
    
    It does seem we are now totally reliant on the vaccine. So why, after being assured we were top of the queue, ie we were going hard and early, did 80+ countries get it before we did? If the country was already 50%+ vaccinated there would be no more lockdowns and we’d be close to opening the borders to tourism. And yet, here we are….
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:31am
    - BAM
      
      Tourism isn’t coming back, this government wants the current tourism industry to die and be reborn as a much smaller higher-end climate change-driven industry.
      
      It’s all part of the great reset road map and why there’s no hurry or interest in reopening the border.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:19am
      - Ian Boag
        
        I’m sure I recall some vigorous KB posts pre-covid about how the country was over-touristed ….
        
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        March 1, 2021 11:21am
    - ldypen
      
      Yes, and why has the PM not had the vaccine yet? Boris, Biden and Morrison have all publicly taken the jab to encourage others… here nothing, maybe she knows something we don’t?
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:21am
      - rererangihirihiri
        
        Didn’t you see the video of Kamala getting the jab?
        The administrator never plunged the syringe.
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:31am
      - SGA
        
        meh, she’s probably damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t on that score. If she had, there would be others here asking why she should get it ahead of GPs in South Auckland (say).
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:54am
      - Bevan
        
        She knows nothing. Thought that was obvious.
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:19am
      - RoboRob
        
        Will the Greens ALL be taking it? It seems very important that they lead by example on this. There ‘followers’ in particular are likely to have a far higher proportion of ‘Anit vaxers’.
        
        p.s. your comment ‘maybe she knows something we don’t?’ is exactly why other world leaders have taken the vaccine publicly. You need to show you are confident in the vaccine.
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:23am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Not enough flesh on the bones ?
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:59am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Vaccination is not recommend for pregnant women, or those planning to conceive in the near future.
        
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        March 1, 2021 11:03am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Merkel, who is presumably neither pregnant nor planning to so be, has heroically declined saying there are more important front-line people to be vaccinated first.
        
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        March 1, 2021 11:06am
      - Observer of Life
        
        Idy: My opinion… (and mods will probably not publish this) is she is pregnant and therefore won’t be partaking.
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:00pm
      - lemuzz
        
        I read somewhere that women of child bearing age shouldn’t get the Pfizer vaccine. This is probably why.
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:19pm
    - RoboRob
      
      And what news of our Vaccine rollout?
      
      In the US Trump rolled out the Vaccine to states within 48hrs of receiving it. He was panned for poor performance. In NZ we sat on our first shipment for almost a week before releasing it to ~167 people (100 vaccinators and 67 others).
      
      The US rolled out 1m dosees a day by the time Biden became president. If we were to do a similar ratio we would be vaccinating 15,000+ people a day. It did take time to ramp up in the US so if we assume they did more like 200,000 a day at the begining that still would mean us needing to do 3,000+ a day. I know that in Wellington last monday we did 37 so not far off. Remember in the USA Trump was ridiculed for poor performance on the vaccine rollout.
      
      Are our media and government are purposely hiding the fact that our vaccine rollout is about as successful as Kiwi build. We cant know becuase unlike overseas countries the vaccine numbers don’t appear to be published here.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:18am
    - marcw
      
      Sourced from “The Telegraph”, this is the apparent situation in December 2020 regarding Covid-19 vaccine orders for NZ.
      
      Pfizer: 0.4 doses per capita
      Johnson & Johnson: 1.2 doses per capita
      
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/28/oxford-vaccine-astrazeneca-covid-19-vs-pfizer-safe-uk-who/
      
      (Sorry if this is paywalled).
      
      So the majority of vaccines ordered ‘to be first in the queue’ were for one that is not even available for distribution today.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:04am
  - Sacha
    
    Scott –
    I get the impression that ‘social control’ is being honoured more in the breach than the observance.
    Just saying.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:35am
  - peterwn
    
    The people of Wairarapa were enchanted with Jacinda’s tongue so only have themselves to blame. But they will have forgotten this by the next election.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:37am
    - igm
      
      Wairarapa has a high percantage of beneficiaries . . . the Labour voting base.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:04am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Waiarapa is a MMP abomination. Taking in the Waiarapa and Southern Hawkes Bay is part of Waiarapa too, and that area didnt use to be benefit territory.
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:57am
    - Paulus
      
      Doubtful – the Wairarapa-ites will still act like sheep next election – like the rest of the then Aotearoa-ites.
      She is always right and controls the flow of money.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:31am
  - rererangihirihiri
    
    Kieran McAnulty is a squeezer. The end.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:29am
  - KiWombat
    
    Somebody needs to educate our PriNZess that this virus does not just grow on trees. We had numbers down to zero, and then she and her cronies allowed it to cross the border again. And the entire population seems to have to pay the price for our inadequate border control.
    
    Bring in Frank Bainemarama – he seems to have the situation much more under control in Fiji than is the case here. Even though they have just finished the annual cruising season, their covid numbers are still at a big fat zero !
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:24am
    - amospicton
      
      Yes, but Fiji’s a small isolated island in the South Pacific….. Not the same as NZ? Really, and NZ’s stats can be compared to those of the US because it makes us look good?
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:15am
      - backster
        
        On the other hand Queensland has a similar population to New Zealand and has borders with other States, its death toll is four times lower than NZ. They went hard and early.
        
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        March 1, 2021 3:43pm
  - Nickc2
    
    NO, not everyone is going along with it!
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:51am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “no vaccine works forever”
    
    If you mean “provides protection against infection” that is incorrect. Most vaccines provide lifetime protection.
    
    Whether this will apply to covid vaccines is unknown.
    
    Also you are exaggerating the challenge of adjusting vaccines to work on new variants.
    
    The data coming out of Israel and the UK provides me with confidence that vaccines will end the pandemic. Indeed nothing else will. Which is why I am so bewildered about how New Zealand is now about the last country in the developed world in terms of vaccine roll out. Total incompetence by the government.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:06am
    - Scott
      
      “Jacinda Ardern says Covid-19 will become endemic and require repeat vaccinations, like the flu.
      
      Epidemiologist Michael Baker suggests the world might eliminate the virus, given the efficacy of the vaccines developed to date. If, however, global efforts fail, then he too concedes that it could come to resemble influenza.”
      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/covid-19-when-elimination-ends
      
      The Prime Minister doesn’t agree with you Benedict. If you look at the Spanish flu of 1918 – 19 apparently 50 million people died all over the world. Generally a few hundred people a year in New Zealand die of the flu.
      
      At some point we are going to have to learn to live with Covid. Just as we had to learn to live with the Spanish flu.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:52am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        The Prime Minister is wrong, IMO. I have read thew original report of the Israel study.
        
        “This is the kind of vaccine that gives us hope that herd immunity may be possible,” said Raina MacIntyre, a professor of biosecurity at the University of New South Wales in Sydney who wasn’t involved with the study. At the levels of efficacy seen in Israel, she said, vaccinating about 60% to 70% of the population should be enough to prevent infections as well as illness and death and “have the best chance of resuming normal life and opening up society.”
        
        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-24/pfizer-biontech-shot-could-help-end-pandemic-israel-study-shows
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:51pm
  - jon
    
    UNIMPRESSED with our new electorate MP McAnulty when i wrote to him re White Privilege courses for Government servants and received from his electorate office an unsatisfactory reply.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:37am
    - Ehlana
      
      I wonder if their course includes consideration of these lyrics: https://genius.com/Sam-fender-white-privilege-lyrics
      You can watch him perform it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fRYsGOiUaw
      
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      March 1, 2021 3:05pm
- notrotsky
  
  …and with bought and paid for shills like Shaun Hendy and Siouxsie Wiles as the go to commentators of a compliant bought and paid for media the NZ public laps up the fear porn yet again.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:07am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Are they also paid agents of Fauci?
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:44am
    - notrotsky
      
      er no ? why do you ask ?
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:08am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  The narrative is actually quite brilliant. If you question it, you’re pro-death. Do you even care if PEOPLE DIE?
  
  The continued call to the team of 5 million. The continual fear mongering, the loaded language is everywhere. All it takes is the tilted head and the frown – and that’s really hard to combat with fact when emotions are purposely heightened.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:08am
  - BananaLlama
    
    Respond that you don’t want to live in fear and they should be brave.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:05am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Anyone who dares to think and to question the efficacy of lockdowns and/or masks and/or mass dosing of the population with experimental vaccines is shrilly denounced as someone potentially having “blood on their hands” if we dispensed with either. What they fail to realise or admit, is that this unhinged response assumes and presupposes exactly what is needed to be debated: the efficacy of these measures. It is impossible for any of them to say, with any degree of certainty and scientific rigour, precisely what the state of affairs would have been absent any lockdowns, because we had lockdowns. There is thus nothing to compare.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:25am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Sorry, it’s The Team of 4,999,999. I’m out.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:26am
    - Frank the tank
      
      I was never in (the cult of little Aotearoa)
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:26am
    - yossarian
      
      I was never ever in. The moment the beneficiaries got a pay rise (oxymoron I know), the govt depts got a 7 week holiday and I worked through the whole thing with a 20% salary cut, that lasted 6 months I knew this “we’re all in this together” and the team of 5 million was all bs.
      
      I have had serious illnesses in the past (got whacked by malaria many years ago) but refuse to be afraid nor have anyone tell me how to live my life.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:47am
  - Phronesis
    
    Every day that Auckland is locked down more people die. It costs hundreds of millions of dollars a day in reduced GDP. There is a direct causal link between GDP and average life expectancy. What this govt is doing is socialising death. Rather than risk a few people dying, everyone will (on average) live shorter lives.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:28am
  - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
    
    Masterful stroke to bring out the “covid kills people” line, it does show that they are close to bottom of barrel for ideas and excuses. I suspect we will look back at the this excuse as the equivilent of Godwins law….
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:53am
- all true
  
  Not only covid kills people, so does the influenza virus every year. What a lame statement, but you can’t expect anything different from a fish n chips wrapper.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:12am
  - amospicton
    
    So does driving. Let’s ban cars to save lives.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:31am
    - fernglas
      
      In the US, flu killed about 35,000 people last time round.
      
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      March 1, 2021 8:45am
    - igm
      
      That’s hjgh on the agenda . . . wait till they get going!
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:05am
    - NoFax
      
      About 1200 NZer’s die each year from air pollution – add the 400 a year in road crashes it dwarfs Covid by a long shot.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:05am
- lastmanstanding
  
  So what are Cindy and Ashlry going to do post vaccine. MoH estimates up to 25% wont get it and young and ethnics most likely not to.
  
  Now that the demographic in South Auckland Covid Capital of New Zealand.
  If one of these get it will those of us who have been vaccinated locked down and if so why.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:59am
  - Brian McDonald
    
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    South Auckland is also the essential and front-line worker’s capital of New Zealand, but by all means, criticise them.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:13am
    - Nickc2
      
      Was the garbage collected from Frazer House today Brian?
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:00am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Are you not afraid one bit because our famous PM is “angry”? I am so scared and hiding in a corner.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:57am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Personally I thought her tone leaned towards bullying of that poor young man & well out of touch with the zeitgeist.
  
  Will nobody think of his mental health?
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:08am
mikenmildagain

Happy World Civil Defence Day!
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March 1, 2021 8:00am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  You are a disaster area, so that makes sense.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:32am
Ruahine

The gov’ts propaganda machine is in top form this morning. Even Judith Collins getting into the act. No pun or fun intended.
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March 1, 2021 8:04am
- notrotsky
  
  National opposition is beyond hopeless at present. Thank goodness for Seymour unfortunately the rest of the people he got into parliament are invisible.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:09am
  - pdm
    
    Well the media are not going to go to ACT MP’s are they.
    
    They would not produce the idolising soundbites required by the Jacinda sycophants in the media.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:36am
    - igm
      
      Fifty million buys a lot of favourable press.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:06am
      - Jack5
        
        Bridges is the Opposition star at present with his attack on the woke Police Commissioner.
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:54am
      - GJM
        
        isn’t it up to $105 million now? I lose track – a million here, a million there, soon you are talking about real money.
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:10am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Jenna Lynch (the mob) was supportive of Cindy the useless this morning.
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:58am
      - Frank the tank
        
        Where was your mate Tovs – having a durrie out the back?
        
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        March 1, 2021 11:32am
  - NoFax
    
    ACT is hit and miss at best – it now wants mandatory use of the Covid app. Hardly the party for freedom.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:06am
Kiwi_in_Paris

Perhaps Cindy could learn from a politician who actually cares about her citizens instead of pretending to:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-dakota-gov-noem-blasts-fauci-contrasts-her-covid-measures-with-cuomo
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March 1, 2021 8:06am
- SB2
  
  ” Dr. Anthony Fauci as being chronically proven wrong in his prescriptions and predictions -..”
  
  ???
  
  “Kristi Noem rigidly follows Trump strategy of denial as Covid ravages South Dakota”
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/19/kristi-noem-trump-strategy-denial-covid-ravages-south-dakota
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:14pm
- Waipuk
  
  Just watching her speak on YouTube.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lep70dcxrYA
  
  The caliber of leaders is sadly lacking.
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:11pm
Tomtoddy

Returned from south into Auckland late afternoon yesterday and started hitting queues so ducked off the motorway at Rangiruru and came up back roads through Pukekohe to home. Apparently saved myself a couple of hours of delays.

What was the purpose of stopping people going home? Were any turned away? If so why?

Got stopped at Pukekawa by a couple of cops. Asked why are you stopping me and they didnt know. “Orders, mate”, one of them said.

Why am I thinking this is just another encroachment of our basic rights? Checkpoints, records, hassles, ID’s……
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March 1, 2021 8:08am
- Simon
  
  “Covid cult, mate“
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:23am
  - Harriet
    
    “Reset, mate”
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:42am
    - SB2
      
      BS , mates
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:18pm
- Frank the tank
  
  It was badly organized. The questions asked were pointless.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:25am
  - GazzaW
    
    The police must have been short of staff to man the checkpoints given the vast number of frontline cops that Coster has despatched on his nationwide gangs crackdown 😉
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:41am
    - tf78
      
      Gazza, I think it’s lack of dosh as I know of two people who have passed all their exams and fitness tests to join the police and they keep getting told there are no intakes at the moment. This has been going on for two years now. It could be because they’re both white – one male and one female. I hope they give up on the idea as they are both decent people.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:07am
      - igm
        
        Can they speak te reo, do they attend LGGTB parades, do they have facial hair, are they pacifists, are they unable to speak English?
        If not, they have no show.
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:22am
    - hullkiwi
      
      They were all up north preceding/following the bikers who went north on Saturday.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:21am
      - oldfella
        
        Are ‘Hone’s Hoodies’ back in action up north with their illegal road blocks on public roads? Saving the whanau from Covid, eh.
        After that they’ll start protecting their kids from abusive whanau families.
        Priorities, eh!
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:43pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Brilliant move to go over the bridge at Rangiriri but I note you were stopped at Pukekawa. Pukekawa is about 30 kilometres south of the Auckland border, which is north of Tuakau. I wonder if Phil Goff is trying to extend his area to cover that part of the Waikato River where Auckland will draw its water.
  Another cunning stunt from a stunning ……, mayor?
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:44am
  - gregorcasey@gmail.com
    
    Its within spiting distance for Goff
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:37am
- Justitia
  
  @ Tomtoddy: excellent questions. Was there any good reason for the Police to run checkpoints on people wishing to return to Auckland? None is apparent. Just another random display of mindless authoritarianism to condition the public to the continuing destruction of their freedoms?
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:51am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Ever register with you that people ‘visiting’ Auckland unlawfully could take home Covid, or that roadblocks are checkpoints on travel in and out of a designated Level 3 area?
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:21am
  - Nickc2
    
    BS! The purpose of roadblocks is to stop people getting out of a locked-down area. IMO, people should be allowed to enter (at their own risk) but getting out again before the lockdown is lifted is the problem.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:05pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      In my experience Logic and common sense doesn’t apply to that poster – you might as well bang your head against a concrete wall – you get the same result.
      
      Remember though we are in (little) Aotearoa though where the normal rules don’t apply. I was half surprised the officer didn’t talk in pigeon english (ie random Maori tossed in from virtue effect)
      
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      March 1, 2021 2:00pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  You voted Cindy. Take it Toddy boy.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:59am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The crazy pink haired one giving Aucklanders a lecture about leaving in droves on Saturday night.
Hey Wiles, how about giving your great leader a lecture? She left Auckland Saturday night
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March 1, 2021 8:08am
- Tomtoddy
  
  Sounded to me more like leftie jealousy…..”I havent got a bach in Coromandel so why should you get to go to yours”.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:10am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I wonder if Gayford escaped with his boat?
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:15am
- notrotsky
  
  S Wiles is bought and paid for by the govt. to provide fear porn commentary for the timid media
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:10am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    I am sure Pinky will be in Labour list for 2023 elections…After all this is the country which elected Twyford with an increased majority…..
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:00am
    - Frank the tank
      
      And that gets the award for the biggest nightmare of 2021 to date.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:34am
    - Nickc2
      
      Yea, the people of Te Atatu are still laughing about it.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:10pm
- Frank the tank
  
  All animals are equal Steve but the Blairite is more equal than all.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:28am
- NoFax
  
  The pink hair one is a microbiologist – no medical or epidemiology training at all. Not an expert in this field despite the media’s fawning. Same goes for Shuan “80,000 dead” Hendy – a physicist. The pink hair one in particular is having the time of her life. Normally she would be ignored and thought of as a try-hard loser. With the pandemic she is a gets to lecture all of NZ. Do you really think she wants this to end?
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:09am
  - Batman
    
    So do we assume you’d wipe the floor with both of them in a debate?
    
    The betting markets might view it otherwise.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:22am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Cmon Batty thats unfair. It’s not about having a debate it’s about having the correct qualifications to be termed an expert. Neither of them have it and in addition are on the government covid response payroll. They have a vested interest.
      
      Comparing them to say Prof. Baker would be like comparing Ken Rutherford to Don Bradman. The pink lady even admits she gets all her information from the internet.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:42am
      - Batman
        
        It’s not entirely unfair.
        
        They are two highly capable scientists who understand the principles and factors involved here. It should be noted that they’re both Science Communicators whose role is to explain these concepts to the public, using their knowledge plus input from other specialists in the area. They are not required to have the job title exactly the same as the topic.
        
        So sure, you can nitpick and claim that they’re ‘not qualified’ based on a job title. At the end of the day they are perfectly qualified to make public comment in their roles, and it isn’t like they’re authoring papers on Covid or actually working on vaccines.
        
        Here’s a bit of a secret: https://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/for-journalists/
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:12pm
      - SB2
        
        “The pink lady even admits she gets all her information from the internet.”
        
        Does she just?
        
        Where do you get yours?
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:20pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Not the point really, again.
      
      As a college dabater, many years ago, we “swept the floor” with many an opposing team defending a ridiculous position.
      
      Debate is about form, not substance… and I can probably still smell the uranium.
      
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      March 1, 2021 5:47pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    An ‘expert’ whos advice and predictions fails as badly as she did in early part of the epidemic last year should be ignored. Listen to actual experts not attention whores.
    
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    March 1, 2021 1:18pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  [Mod: don’t impersonate the Mods.]
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:12am
  - kloyd0306
    
    Batman, the one with dual roles (unavailable to anyone else) as both commentator AND moderator, strikes again.
    
    This situation, being able to moderate and comment stinks to high heaven and you know it.
    
    Make up your freakin’ mind.
    
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    March 1, 2021 3:05pm
  - Tall Man
    
    He can delete stuff?
    
    Awesome 😉
    
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    March 1, 2021 5:50pm
Iamright

Just watched our PM being interviewed on tv3. Seriously is this woman our PM. That interview was an absolute train wreck. Coulnt answer anything and just waffled. over talking Duncan Garner so he couldn’t ask a question.
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March 1, 2021 8:09am
- jacob
  
  Yeh, saw her there too
  
  Why the long face?
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:35am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    That means she is serious, angry and means business bro. Here is how to code her head tilt angles during interview with the press:
    
    10 degrees = May be you are doing OK so far asking patsy questions
    20 degrees = Oi, are you questioning me?
    30 degrees = I am getting impatient
    40 degrees = Here comes my concerned looks
    50 degrees = Now I am serious
    60 degrees = I am angry
    70 degrees = Now I will put the fear of Covid in your mind
    80 degrees = I am sad and helpless…time to remind you of the 50M bribe
    90 degrees = Look mate, I can’t tilt my head any more. Stop this nonsense
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:04am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Shit that is stalker-like detail SCS. Be careful the SIS will be onto you
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:45am
      - Tall Man
        
        I think he IS the SIS 😉
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:51pm
    - jon
      
      Well put Sir Cullen..very good!!
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:57am
- peterwn
  
  Duncan just has to put up with being over-talked. His job depends on it.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:39am
  - Inandout
    
    peter, it is called the ‘Plunkett effect’.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:05am
- KiwiSapper
  
  ‘Duncan Garner so he couldn’t ask a question.’
  
  Duncan does not “ask a question.” He rolls three questions along with two statements or his opinions into one sentence .
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:21am
- Waipuk
  
  I watched a clip of Margaret Thatcher being interviewed for an hour. She did not miss a beat. Knew the facts, the numbers, and the plan forward.
  
  And we have Arden 😩
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:21pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING DUNEDIN……

Fivins Chittilappilly
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March 1, 2021 8:09am
citychic

Just watched the PM on the AM Show – an embarrassingly awful performance. Avoided answering questions around holding rule breakers to account with that silly smiley face – inappropriate in the circumstances.
Dismissed comments from ACT and National as being through a political lens implying of no value. No doubt they will pick up the Nats plan in a week or two and call it their own.
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March 1, 2021 8:12am
- Tricati
  
  Covinda politicized the covid response from day one, added by a select few ‘experts and a compliant media’, so only has herself to blame if other political parties are pointing out her cock ups.
  The populous are getting tired of the ‘fear’ rhetoric and and are starting to push back, as many now see its as a distraction from all the failings of the government (eg -housing).
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:51am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  FFS, this is politics, woman. Nothing is done or said that isn’t through a “political lens.”
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:40am
Luke Piewalker

Cindy is the 1% Prime Minister

… only delivers 1% of what she promised
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March 1, 2021 8:14am
- KevO'Brien
  
  That could be restated as delivers -ve 99%. Effectively the opposite of what she gabbles about.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:49am
Yvette

I accept, by her own interviewed admissions, that Ardern can be anxious, impulsive, intuitive rather than logical and, by observation, the frequent recipient of sheer good luck, which one would think cannot surely be endless. Her record of actual delivery is not a source of confidence that I should willing entrust my life, or anyone else’s, to Government hands. But is there any choice in the matter.

Having observed Kiwibuild, Auckland light rail, child poverty changes, Ihumatao, and now the rapidly diminishing target of trees to be planted even, Labour seems to fuck-up the delivery of almost everything it touches.

Since nearly all international reports on the pandemic do confirm Ardern latest statement “Covid kills”,
I believe New Zealanders have a right to such information as may for some be a life or death matter.

The Government should immediately give a detailed priority breakdown of sections of society with a estimation of when each will be vaccinated and continuous updating of numbers vaccinated against targets be a daily feature of covid news reports.
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March 1, 2021 8:14am
- Sacha
  
  @ Yvette: You do have a choice.
  You observe good public health manners, and shy away from situations where you might expose yourself to risk.
  If you feel a bit seedy, rest up. Take fever reducing pills if you have a temp, and pain killers if you are achy.
  Take lots of fluids, and now that winter is approaching, start taking Vit D.
  Stock up on your medical supplies.
  If you have underlying health conditions, keep in touch with your GP. Be confident that you are giving your body the chance to help itself – I firmly believe that the calm and sensible mind does assist in recovery. Fear and doubt, don’t.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:50am
- Paulus
  
  Why should they, She has 53% of the votes and the purse !
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:36am
- Master Mariner
  
  Yes., Its called a Plan.
  
  Seems to be absent, Without one you are winging it.
  
  Sound familar.
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:33pm
Frank the tank

When I went through the road block (SH2) yesterday at 9.00am I knew that was going to be a fuck up. 1 line – 4 police officers for a city of > 1.5m. Extrapolate that out to the other check points – say 16-20 officers max.

Good thing I was that fucked off and got up at 5.00am to pack and my wife (and kids) knew to send me off early.

The check point was interesting in itself. We went away for a surf lifesaving junior comp. The officer asked what we were doing and we told them. Then the officer asked if we were planning to spend the whole next 7 days up in Auckland (this was after we explained we lived permanently in Red beach). All information was punched into an iPhone (Why?????).

I was thinking to myself what three-fifths of a retard would actually go from a L2 area to a L3 area for a holiday etc. Then I realized we live in (little) Aotearoa. Like everything now it is dumbed down to the lowest denominator.
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March 1, 2021 8:17am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  The collective intelligence of New Zealand was largely an unknown without some form of stress-test to determine it. Now we have that stress-test, we know that it is extremely brittle. It’s like having borer in your house for many years, but don’t know until it’s too late. I look at their conformist and obedient submission and shake my head at how stupid many of my countrymen are.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:44am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Ever think about the dickheads and entitled pricks that the 4 cops had to deal with on what otherwise might have been an off-duty day?
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:27am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Your comment backs up my points – not enough staff and not enough common sense applied.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:32am
  - Liberty
    
    The Cops have all the time in the world.
    Now our good and great Government has forbidden the chasing of low life’s .
    Driving a car. With a boot full of dope.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:48pm
lifesgood

Just letting everyone know I am still bloody angry about this lockdown. How utterly ridiculous. When was the last covid death here? Months and months ago. How many are in hospital? Probably no one. This whole thing is just ludicrous. Flu kills 500 a year, do we go into lockdown every flu season? When are NZers going to get some balls and tell Cindy to FO?
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March 1, 2021 8:18am
- sooty
  
  Oh yes, but there could be!
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:50am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Ardern R. may need more than just a talking to.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:51am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Covid has cured the Flu. Cured pneumonia, cured hayfever, cured emphysema. What an amazing vaccine Covid is
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:44am
  - yossarian
    
    Did I read that Australia had 2 flu deaths in 2020??? I’m sure I read that somewhere
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:01am
  - Tall Man
    
    Plus old age ……
    
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    March 1, 2021 5:54pm
Simon

Covid cult angry. Not a good sign when authoritarian nut jobs get angry.

Be kind comrades quickly becomes some people are worse than the virus and they need to learn some lessons.

Messaging for the plebs is Cindy is frustrated. Kindly Cindy is frustrated and we need measures of authoritarian control and punishment to help a return to the new normal

Covid cult members are ready and willing to get behind a wave of punishment for those non face mask wearers who refuse to join the cult.
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March 1, 2021 8:19am
- Jimbob
  
  I think you meant Kindy Cindy.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:43am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I’ve often thought that Jacinda’s level is as an ECE teacher. Small kids will love her empathy; their mothers will admire her, but be slightly wary of her moods.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:15am
- MCos
  
  Listening to the various political leaders it seems that champion of individual rights and hardcore free speech advocate, David Seymour, is the most in favour of authoritarian measures to trace the movements of the populace.
  He’s got a problem, that guy, and he’s resorting to verbal gymnastics to justify himself.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:06am
  - Tall Man
    
    100% agree. He’s no civil libertarian that’s for sure.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:15am
  - Charmaine Hawke
    
    MCos not often I agree with you but on this occasion you are bang on. David Seymour has been the most disappointing of all the politicians in this parliament. If he is not standing up for our individual rights who is??
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:25am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Agreed. A better response would be “I got it wrong about contact tracing. Citizens of a free country should never have the state tracking their movements. Never. This is a bottom line for me, and for the ACT party”
    
    … but he won’t. Weak, faux-liberal, and sadly the best we have to counter neo-Marxism’s gathering menace.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:39am
artemisia

Talk starting up about a third covid dose needed for new strains. Annually?
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March 1, 2021 8:21am
- Frank the tank
  
  What like the flu jab? Well I never……
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:39am
  - tf78
    
    Frank or is it the Flu jab?!
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:18am
  - Nickc2
    
    Come on Frank, it’s a prelude to the GREAT GLOBAL RESET. When you’re hooked, you’re hooked.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:41pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      Just don’t raise it with Grunter – he’ll get his panties in a knot again
      
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      March 1, 2021 1:54pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The number of injections isn’t important. What we’re being conditioned to accept is the notion that freedoms we previously enjoyed in the absence of edicts are now dependent on our absolute servitude to an increasingly authoritarian state.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:40am
  - Nickc2
    
    as dictated by and administered by the UN.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:42pm
    - doublehappy
      
      You have it right on the button Nickc2.
      
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      March 1, 2021 1:39pm
Ruahine

This couple of community found in Sth Ak has been a godsend for the gov’t. Last weeks announcements of a mill closure in Whakatane and the layoffs at the Methenex plant in Taranaki and the 200 at Vodafone has very skillfully been pushed aside as Ardern and Co have finally struck gold with another lockdown for Auckland. Ever since her holidays have ended she and the usual suspects have been looking for excuses to keep the hysteria going.
First it was the deadly South African variant up around Whangarei. Then when that did not work it was the restaurant in Albany but no, a dead end there as well but heaven bless Sth Ak has delivered.
I just love the new slogan as well.

Covid kills Comrades.
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March 1, 2021 8:27am
- Tony Stuart
  
  The closure of the Methanex plant at Waitara is going to be a significant blow to the Taranaki economy. The jobs there are particularly well paid, and those being laid off are unlikely to get new jobs at anywhere near the same income level.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:39am
  - peterwn
    
    But Taranaki will be saved by the ‘Hydrogen Economy’. But what Taranaki based resources and energy will be available to produce the hydrogen.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:42am
    - Tricati
      
      Yep – Hydrogen fuel for vehicles is normally produced at scale from ‘natural gas’ in a process called steam-methane reforming.
      So if we want to produce Hydrogen fuel in NZ for cars, are we going to ‘import’ natural gas now as we have closed down the Taranaki fields – You can’t make this shit up.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:27am
      - Master Mariner
        
        If they got that far in producing hydrogen , Then how the hell are they going to transport it?
        
        Close of state highways because of Hydrogen truck is going down it ( With either methanol or Ammonia).
        Port Taranaki to small to use as a feeder port/terminal. Would require a specially built vessel then would need to go to terminal in another Port for export.
        But question is , Who would buy hydrogen thats not produced “green” . because Taranaki i dont believe you can. Possibly “Brown” but would require Gas.
        Even more so because the killed the Oil and Gas
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:43pm
      - Nickc2
        
        but school children wanted these industries shut down and Cindy couldn’t help herself. BTW, it was also what the Greens wanted and they were part of the Govt at that time.
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:48pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        There is a European company planning to start selling hydrogen produced from PV electricity next year for 0.05 Euro cents per kWh. That is basically the same price as natural gas costs now (to home users in Europe). I don’t think climate change is a problem, but it is clear that the change to a PV powered world is about to accelerate dramatically, and it won’t be significantly more expensive than fossil fuels. Battery electric vehicles will be cheaper than petrol within 5 years given huge rate of increase in production (and steady science of learning curves reducing their costs). We will all be getting PV on our roofs within the next 10-20 years because it will be cheaper than grid supply.
        
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        March 1, 2021 1:01pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Steam reforming basically extracts the hydrogen bit of methane and turns the carbon bit into Co2. Not the cleanest way to make hydrogen.
        
        CNG in a ICE is reasonably competitive with this.
        
        I think the hydrogen-car bit would be based on H2 made from renewables ie electrolysis of water.
        
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        March 1, 2021 1:07pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Mean while in Europe,
        
        https://splash247.com/green-hydrogen-plant-at-rotterdam-port-on-the-cards/
        
        Andreas Schierenbeck, CEO of Uniper, said: “Our location at Maasvlakte is the perfect place for large-scale production of green hydrogen. This is where everything comes together: large amounts of renewable energy, the required infrastructure, and industrial customers. A better place for green hydrogen production is hardly imaginable.”
        
        With this in Mind, The only viable solution for a project like this in NZ would be Bluff and Manapouri Power.
        
        https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Oil-Major-Total-Makes-Big-Bet-On-Green-Hydrogen.html
        
        https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Australias-Fuel-Security-Crisis-Is-Growing-Increasingly-Dire.html
        
        Fuel security, Well what is NZ status. What Wakas do we have to transport if need be and at what price.
        The Green Utopian vision is missing a few dots along the way.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:25pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        I think you might find that the H2 producer is being massively subsidised. Also note that H2 is, in certain concentrations in air, spontaneously explosive. It does need significantly greater safety precautions than natural gas or petrol.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:30pm
      - oldfella
        
        Might be time for the Stanley Steamer to make a comeback. 😉
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Motor_Carriage_Company
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:55pm
  - mandk
    
    But, couldn’t they work in the offshore oil and gas ind…
    
    No, wait.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:51am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Goodbye Taranaki.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:53am
    - plc
      
      They voted for her (them).
      
      Suck it up.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:14am
  - Gravelroad
    
    So? As I am sure Sir Cullen’s Sidekick would say, the sheeple of Taranaki ( and the Wairarapa ) voted for St Jacinda in droves ……..
    You get what you voted for.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:00am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Taranaki flaccid reaps what they sowed. Enjoy the ‘just’ Transition.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:34am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Taranaki saw Ardern cancel a $25b industry by edict immediately before she boarded a plane to a UN gathering where we spoke of her commitment to combating Climate Change™
    
    Despite this they voted for her, and by extension for more of her neo-Marxism.
    
    I have little sympathy for voters who can’t see the truth staring at them in the face. Suffer, and learn.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:43am
    - Master Mariner
      
      Well were is the ban on oil and gas.
      No petrol and diesol.
      Rubber tyres, fertiliser, Cosmetic products.
      
      The out come is more expense for consumers. The price of all these products is going up and will reach levels where people cant afford to go to work.
      I’m picking 1-2 years.
      Why?
      There is a shortfall of 5-10 years in searching for new sources due to under investment last 5-8 years. Oil sands are not enough, Saudi is not enough whether you believe rhetoric or not.
      The real question is what is NZ fuel security policy.? Windmills are not going to cut it either.
      If we get a perfect storm in world events with protectionism, supply chains, Political instability ( NZ Oil and gas descision) we really are heading for the caves.
      
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      March 1, 2021 2:49pm
      - Nickc2
        
        I’m informed we have about 80 days of fuel (petrol, diesel, avgas etc) in NZ at any one time. Not much is it, and it’s all imported although some could be refined here also if imported? Given our dependence on imported product, why the eff did we shut down our oil and gas industry when in time of emergency, we could at least be partway to self-sufficiency?
        The ideology and deliberate leftist thinking of this Govt never ceases to amaze me.
        With China rattling its saber in the southern hemisphere, it’s not a good look for NZ, especially when our dear leader is doing her best to destroy our relationship with Australia.
        
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        March 1, 2021 4:41pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I hear the Patea Maori Club is being reformed to deliver a rap version of Poi E…
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:57am
    - oldfella
      
      They should change the lyrics to ‘shit, eh?’ as a tribute to our Glorious Leader.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:10pm
- tf78
  
  Ruahine, Comrade kills off the will to live.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:28am
- crikey
  
  If only that were true. What you probably meant is ‘Covid kills, comrades”.
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:09am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  NZ’s loss will be Aussie’s gain. But loss of heavy engineering industry is going to hurt us in long term
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:12pm
kevn

@art… Like the flu jabs (some NZer’s) have had over the years?
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March 1, 2021 8:31am
Frank the tank

If the Auckland bridge can’t be strengthened and will need to reduce load capacity into the medium term was this known when the sky path was announced?

How much money was wasted on plans, consents if it was already known sky path was unsustainable etc ?

Why hasn’t sky path been officially canned yet?
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March 1, 2021 8:31am
- peterwn
  
  It won’t be. Even if it is not technically feasible, there will be further studies done on it indefinitely. Supporters will keep coming up with ideas how it can be done, and they will be carefully considered over a protracted period even if obviously hopeless. Left wing politicians will want to hold out eternal hope on this. And politically savvy engineers will recognise this to.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:48am
- tf78
  
  Frank, don’t be silly the Harbour Bridge will be the Sky Path and won’t be replaced by a new one for cars and trucks.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:30am
- Wayne Mapp
  
  The Skypath is not attached to the clipons (eastern side) it is attached to the piers. Therefore the potential load limits of the clipons will not affect the Skypath.
  
  I was North Shore MP when the last major work was done to the clipons. I was told that it would give another 10 to 20 years life before load limits would have to be imposed. The second crossing, a tunnel was supposed to be planned and built during that time.
  
  A lot of design work was done around 2008 to 2010 for a 4 lane road tunnel, but not much has happened since. If they (the government) was serious about it, a new crossing could be in service by 2030.
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:37am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Noted. So what you are telling me is this abortion of an infrastructure project will go ahead. Awesome.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:59am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Indeed
      
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      March 1, 2021 1:01pm
      - Batman
        
        To be fair, skypath is not going ahead.
        
        The new proposal is nothing like the original pie in the sky dream of magically cheaper custom carbon construction.
        
        The new structure is attached the bridge itself as Wayne notes.
        
        The load limits will be for heavy vehicles, in about ten years from now.
        
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        March 1, 2021 1:38pm
  - doublehappy
    
    I don’t believe that a small cycleway can span the piers. There are no such materials available. Except perhaps in the Americas Cup foil arms. They would need suspension wires connected to skyhooks, or some other miracle system. The only way it could be built to the budget would be to tack it onto the existing bridge. In my honest opinion.
    
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    March 1, 2021 1:52pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I tend to agree with Batman (maybe for the first time ever). Surely, even the Auckland Council as stupid as they are wouldn’t spend Ratepayer’s money on a structure such as a Skypath that would have such a limited life as that of the Harbour Bridge. However, I’ve always been proven wrong with regard to my comments about the Auckland Council in the past.
      
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      March 1, 2021 2:54pm
- Master Mariner
  
  The question I’d like to know if its closed because of wind, then how the hell can it be safe in an earthquake.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:19pm
fernglas

The Guardian reports a study from Italy showing that obese vaccine recipients generated half the antibodies after vaccination of healthy recipients. Death rates amongst the obese are much higher, but where has the “lose weight and live” message been? We’ve had a year; that should be 15 kilos for most. Perhaps it’s racist to tell people to lose weight?
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March 1, 2021 8:32am
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  No but the “healthy at any weight” crew are very noisy and in our new world of equity you can’t say anything to them.
  I guess Cindy wants the fat to die (see 2 can play that game).
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:27am
- cmm
  
  If you are obese, then losing weight will reduce you chance of getting problems from CV19 by about 90%. That is better than improvements you’ll get from getting the vaccine.
  
  But better yet, it will vastly improve your chances with the real killers: heart, cancer, diabetes etc.
  
  And you’ll be able to have more fun in life too.
  
  The best thing NZ (or anyone) could do is get that message out.
  
  And so what if it is “racist”, being woke and saying nothing about obesity puts people’s lives at risk (and costs us a bundle too).
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:43am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Totally agree. I have lost 12 kg in last 3 months. It has made such a difference.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:16am
    - Tall Man
      
      I feel for the poor bugger that found it …….
      
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      March 1, 2021 6:07pm
- oldfella
  
  So, going by that Guardian story, fernglas, the Covid vaccine will be about half as effective in Sth Auckland with their high obese levels.
  Can’t wait to hear Cindy spin that one.
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:15pm
  - cmm
    
    The vaccine isn’t just supposed to help individuals. It is supposed to help the rest of the “Team of 5M” through herd immunity too.
    
    If the skinny teammates get the vaccine, then the fatties are sorted too…. of something like that.
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:31pm
Yvette

7:44am – PM Ardern says there have been “multiple breaches” of COVID rules.
7:45am – Ardern says she wants people to understand consequences of not following the rules.
7:46am – PM Ardern declines to say if she wants family charged over rule-breaking.
7:48am – Ardern says “not her role” to determine whether family is charged or not.
so does it pass then to the woke Police Commissioner?

(However, Jacinda Ardern says the latest community COVID-19 case in south Auckland had contact with an infected family during the last alert level 3 lockdown.
So if you aren’t going to have anyone charged, when is public shaming enough already?)
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March 1, 2021 8:33am
- sooty
  
  When they put the photos of the offenders up on the tv screen and in the papers!
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:53am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    Sooty you are showing a complete lack of empathy.
    It is much easier to lock down the entire country and take the economy to a whole new low.
    But don’t despair, the wiggles are just eighteen sleeps away and you can bet your bottom dollar there will be no lock downs for them.
    They are planning to go from New Zealand to Western Australia with a few days between performances. This will be world record breaking if it comes off.
    The show must go on and it is big time.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:38am
Tony Stuart

Excellent interview on RNZ this morning of Chris Bishop by Corin Dann. It’s amazing how much better an interview is, and how much information can be communicated, when the interviewer doesn’t constantly interrupt their interviewee.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018785538
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March 1, 2021 8:35am
- Frank the tank
  
  Chris is auditioning for the leadership. The feckless 4th estate would prefer him over Simon.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:41am
  - MCos
    
    It doesn’t matter who the 4th estate prefers it’s the caucus that chooses the Leader of the Pack.
    They’ve already told Simon we’re through
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:20am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    If the media don’t like someone, then you know they are the right person for the job.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:22am
    - Batman
      
      This is the winning formula if your goal is purity and never winning a single election ever again.
      
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      March 1, 2021 1:40pm
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        What would you know? It worked for Trump. And besides, you were convinced by Russiagate and Ukrainegate, so you clearly have no idea how politics works.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:08pm
      - kloyd0306
        
        Dual role Batman masters the art of having it both ways as moderator and commentator.
        
        Stinks.
        
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        March 1, 2021 3:11pm
      - RichardX
        
        kloyd0306
        Dual role Batman masters the art of having it both ways as moderator and commentator.
        
        Stinks.
        
        MARCH 1, 2021 3:11PM
        
        Just like all the other moderators.
        
        You just don’t know who they are.
        
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        March 1, 2021 7:58pm
- Sacha
  
  He sounds as if he knows a bit about what he is talking about. No alarmist vibes.
  He talks like someone I’ve heard before – maybe 5-6 years ago.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The most disturbing feature of the interview was when Chris Bishop revealed that the National MPs are not privy to the Public Health advice that the Government is receiving.
  
  This point arose when Corin Dann was questioning the wisdom of a 3-day lockdown when the UK variant (with a long-tail incubation period) was circulating in South Auckland.
  (around the 3:11 mark)
  
  Open and transparent Government?
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:19am
Monique Watson

OMG that poor 21 yr old. He went to the gym ffs. Not thinking he was ill. It wasn’t as tho he threw a party and kissed some girls. And now Cruella is after him causing a National panic.
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March 1, 2021 8:37am
- fernglas
  
  If the idiot didn’t think he was ill after having contact with a family who tested positive, having symptoms including loss of smell and taste and having gone for a test and being told to self-isolate, then he is obviously far too thick to be doing a computer course at MIT, or indeed to be allowed to wipe his own arse.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:07am
  - Monique Watson
    
    I had symptoms in 2020 including loss of smell and taste and the shits and a sore throat and was told to self isolate and did. No Covid. They asked me if I wanted to be tested for the Gonnorea, btw. I declined.
    Who knows what it was. I was sick as hell last year three times, but despite Covid being in circulation I didn’t catch it but the bugs with similar symptoms tagged me. Yeah he shoulda stayed the fuck home but in time the C nasty may be as seasonal as the flu and it should be up to the individual as to the decisions he makes to his movements and health screenings. You really should get screened for the clap though if you’re in doubt to where you’ve put it about.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:04am
  - GT Build
    
    It was a language issue. How did he get in the country as everyone I know that has come to NZ to live had to jump through hoops to prove that they spoke and understood the english language even if they came from the UK amazing
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:31am
    - Frank the tank
      
      It’s probably like those people in the border security program whose english suddenly goes from fluent to pigeon when they know they are in trouble.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:02pm
  - kloyd0306
    
    Or vote……
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:17am
- lifesgood
  
  No, that is not the case. He went to his doctor to get tested because he had symptoms. His doctor told him to isolate, he didn’t. He is a moron to the nth degree and should be held to account. The whole country is in lockdown FFS.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:24am
  - Sacha
    
    He’s a 21 year old. People of that age are not always the wisest, most thinking people in town. He probably didn’t even ‘hear’ the doctor’s instruction.
    The gym would have had far more relevance to him than staying home and doing nothing.
    
    And an increasing number of people (of all ages) seem to be regarding ‘lockdown’ as a technicality –
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:53am
- Frank the tank
  
  Seriously? Poor 21yr old – the same fucktard that is going to force businesses to the wall, job losses and probably circa $1b (let’s be honest here) in additional Zimbabwe printing press money.
  
  Let’s review the individual’s actions:
  
  1). Knowingly having direct contact with a covid family (or indeed as the rumor going around – part of the same family and being ‘hidden’)
  2). Not isolating as per instructions
  3). Getting symptoms, getting tested and still not isolating
  
  The whole family should be placed in stocks, hung in a cage above Hunter’s Plaza and free rotten fruit provided to throw at them.
  
  #BeCruel#
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:43am
  - Sacha
    
    The government is forcing businesses to shut down.
    I hope you are being sarcastic, in a tank-like manner, Frank.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:55am
    - Inandout
      
      Sacha, about time NZ businesses grew some back bone and defied the princess’s edicts. While she happily walks all over hard working businesses and in some cases throws them to the wall she cares little. If I had previously mortgaged my house to save my business during the previous lock downs, then no bastard would ruin my future by throwing me to the debt collectors.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:57pm
      - Sacha
        
        Gee, Inandout, I have a couple of friends who are in increasingly desperate straits. I can only stand helplessly by.
        That’s why I spend what little money I have with the small businesses in my town. The ones who are independent contractors are hanging in there, but with a couple of employees the whole situation changes as they try to keep them in work.
        A few weeks ago I had a call from a fencing contractor who asked if I was ready to get work done to complete the work that was stopped in its tracks last year. He is trying to keep his contracting team in work as they are all young family men. I said yes – in a couple of months I’ll be financial enough (with any luck) .
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:42pm
    - Master Mariner
      
      Exactly Sacha, I think its a deflection to keep eyes away and find someone to blame.
      
      I mean do you seriously think that this scenario would not be repeated up and down the country.?
      
      Wonder who will be next in line while the countries attention is focused on some individuals who through human nature are going to breach these idiotic rules.
      real question is what are the plans next?
      
      Whats the end game?
      
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      March 1, 2021 2:57pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    If you punish this twat you will just ensure that exposed people will be more furtive in future. Ergo we can’t touch the prick.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:53pm
  - Bloody Dago
    
    Marxist playbook – Deny – Obfuscate – Blame the poor bastard, the big witchy pointy finger from Morticia will descend out of the clouds over Papatoetoe. This could not be more predictable!
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:26pm
lifesgood

When is Judith Collins going to stop supporting Labour? FFS she’s the opposition!
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March 1, 2021 8:37am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  National is Labour Lite
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:50am
  - NoFax
    
    National and Labour basically agree on the big issues – health, education, welfare and more and more the woke agenda. Judith telling off Bridges for his “wokester” comment. I can’t see the point of both parties existing.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:15am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  Collins is far too weak. She can’t handle the heat she would get for going off the narrative, so she doesn’t. Nobody has elected the media and they are not accountable to anyone, so their opinion is irrelevant. Trump was outrageously popular for doing exactly that, rightly treating the approved media as the enemy. You don’t appease your enemy, and Labour is also the enemy. Or they should be treated as such.
  
  Building a consensus is not a viable strategy. Stalin developed a wide consensus, didn’t he. Why would anyone vote for National, if you’d get exactly what Labour would give us? We’ve moved on to something far more pressing than lower taxes and infrastructure, for instance.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:17am
- Happychappy
  
  Why isn’t Judith Collins speaking up about this with doctors putting their lives on the line for South Auckland and when they ask for left over vaccines they are denied by this caring, loving Government.
  Some South Auckland doctors never recieved a Covid-19 vaccination over the weekend dispite their being leftover dozes from the border roll out being available.
  Soth Auckland GP Api Talemaitoga today our Health correspondent Rowan Quinn his colleague’s are under the pump dealing with huge testing numbers and potential Covid-19 everyday.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018785529/covid-19-doctors-miss-out-on-leftover-vaccines
  So obviously Jacinda and her cronies don’t care about front line doctors or their Health in South Auckland.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:18am
  - Sacha
    
    Come on! The ‘left-over’ supply ran out. That’s why they didn’t get the vaccine in this case.
    Be honest, eh?
    I understand that the vaccine has a limited shelf life once it the temperature rises after being removed from it’s -70 deg fridge. It may be a matter of logistics keeping a good supply.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:01pm
- Harriet
  
  When is Judith Collins going to stop supporting Labour?
  
  LOL —- When is she going to start?
  
  Simon has. 😎
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:28am
- Bobba Fret
  
  But nearly everyone over at the BFD / Whaleoil said Judith was the answer?
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:59pm
Maggie Pie

Everyone is sooo excited about seeing Trumpy speak today….including the left.
You will never see this sort of enthusiasm for Biden.

WATCH:

https://breaking911.com/watch-live-cpac-2021-final-day-fmr-president-trump-speaks/
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March 1, 2021 8:40am
- fernglas
  
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  Donald who?
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:47am
  - Inandout
    
    fern, I would expect that sort of question from Biden when he is first awoken by Nurse Jill.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:13am
    - Batman
      
      Followed by asking how the Jewish Space Laser secret got out and why Comrade Chavez isn’t on-hand!
      
      So many questions! 😜😂
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:18am
      - NoFax
        
        Biden bombed Syria – how does it feel to back to normal Batman? Much better than those mean tweets.
        
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        March 1, 2021 10:17am
      - Batman
        
        I wondered when this dumb line would come up.
        
        In case you missed it, Trump conducted strikes on Syria as well. And less well known; he is the only President to order the deployment and use of the MOAB, back in early 2017.
        
        You may also recall the extrajudicial killing of an Iranian General.
        
        This whole faux argument about bombing the middle east from MAGAites is flimsy to say the least.
        
        Cheers mate!
        
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        March 1, 2021 11:20am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Maybe it’s just a bit of Karma Batman; after all Psaki opined that bombing Syria (by Trump) was likely illegal, and Creepy Joe also warned against it.
        
        Does seem that both have changed their tune rather in a hurry, no ?
        
        Not that of course Joe has any idea that the US is bombing Syria, in Texas he even admitted on camera that he had no idea where he was or what he was supposed to be doing.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:33pm
      - kloyd0306
        
        But, but, but….
        Batman is a moderator. Surely he can’t have an agenda – yet he does!
        
        The reality is that Batman has no qualifications to be a moderator. Mods are expected to be impartial but Batman fails badly on that score.
        
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        March 1, 2021 3:16pm
      - NoFax
        
        I see you are reverting to “whataboutism” – clear case that you have no argument regarding bombing Syria.
        
        So cheers to you mate!
        
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        March 1, 2021 3:48pm
      - RichardX
        
        kloyd0306
        But, but, but….
        Batman is a moderator. Surely he can’t have an agenda – yet he does!
        
        The reality is that Batman has no qualifications to be a moderator. Mods are expected to be impartial but Batman fails badly on that score.
        
        MARCH 1, 2021 3:16PM
        
        Please provide a citation to support your claim that a moderator cannot have an opinion
        
        Please provide evidence that Batman having an opinion has impacted his ability to be impartial when moderating the blog.
        
        You know the pseudonym of exactly one of the moderators.
        
        How do you know if any of the other moderators are also expressing opinions in their comments?
        
        How do you know that any of the other moderators are more or less qualified than Batman to be a moderator?
        
        [ Nuther Mod – and poster: … Who knows who we are? DPF? Who decides if we are qualified? DPF. Work it out ..]
        
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        March 1, 2021 7:50pm
- mikenmildagain
  
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  Let’s hope he announces TRUMP 2024! – Make America Great Again, Again – hopefully with one of the idiot spawn on the ticket for extra lulz.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:51am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Will there still be an America in 2024?
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:56am
    - Inandout
      
      Kev, there are 50 States so fear not.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:14am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        I wrote “America” not a collection of States.
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:34am
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        Kev
        Yes, Trump and Trump voters are “America.” The regime is not America, because it detests everything about it. This is why they hate Trump. They are purposely bringing South Africa and Brazil to the continent on which America was built, inexorably altering the social fabric. You cannot change the parts and expect the whole to persist unchanged, and they know this.
        
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        March 1, 2021 9:59am
    - Paulus
      
      I see that the US is back in the Middle East War zones again !
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        There were more US troops in the Middle East at the end of Trump’s term than when he was elected.
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:11pm
      - curry4me
        
        Paulus: If he bombs four more countries, he’s a shoe in for the Nobel Peace Prize. I wonder which ones he’ll choose?
        
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        March 1, 2021 3:15pm
  - Tall Man
    
    I thought politicians families were off limits or doesn’t that apply to Trump haters.
    
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    March 1, 2021 8:57am
    - fernglas
      
      Only if they don’t get involved in politics themselves. No-one took cheap shots at Barron, even on here, but I did notice a lot of noise about Hunter Biden.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:37am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        The Butt Hunters will tell you that’;s different…
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:10pm
      - Inandout
        
        fern, the ‘noise’ was self inflicted by a very dodgy Biden Jnr. Barron has no such stigma.
        
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        March 1, 2021 1:02pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Maybe there’s just a touch of difference ? Barron Trump was 13 when Trump took office, Hunter is in his 40’s at least. And DJT Jnr has come in for at least as much and probably a lot more negative press than HB, especially in the MSM as HB is a forbidden topic there.
        
        And we DO have prima facie evidence that Hunter Biden is an integral part of Joe Biden’s primitive little corruption industry. On his abandoned laptop there were two emails of note – in one he revealed that Joe demanded (and presumably got) 50% of what Hunter “earned” as part of the influence peddling (such as with Burisma as an example); and the second was an email from a Burisma executive, demanding that Hunter acknowledge why he was being paid by Burisma and get working on making Burisma’s owner’s legal problems in Ukraine go away. And guess what, a few weeks later Joe Biden starts agitating for the Ukraine prosecutor to be fired. And that is before there are ANY other mentions by anyone about getting Viktor Shokin removed. Joe then gets various others like the EU to go along with the charade, but make no mistake, it is Biden’s initiative to replace a trained lawyer in Shokin with a non-lawyer who had already served a number of months in prison for corruption. And hey presto, after Shokin is fired, Burisma’s legal problems indeed go away …. and Hunter Biden keeps getting his $1M a year.
        
        Hunter is Joe’s bagman, and intimately involved with Joe’s corruption.
        
        And that’s quite apart from the pretty unpleasant lifestyle choices that Hunter Biden has made which include partially naked pictures of his underage niece on his laptop. Anyone else but a thoroughly privileged Democrat would already have been arrested for that alone, but justice in the US is multi-tiered now, and most of the laws just don’t apply to those “important” Democrats and their kin.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:44pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Really?
        
        “one of the idiot spawn”
        
        Would labelling neve as such pass moderation? I don’t think so. [ Mod : correct ]
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:26pm
    - SGA
      
      Given the prominent role they played in the last administration, they are hardly “just family”, Tall Man?
      
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      March 1, 2021 10:11am
      - Tall Man
        
        And ardern’s “media props” play no role?
        
        https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/neve-te-aroha-arden-gayford-with-her-dad-clarke-gayford-news-photo/1203845467?adppopup=true
        
        https://nz.news.yahoo.com/jacinda-ardern-brings-daughter-neve-to-waitangi-day-event-232450177.html
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/ggadsIcMofFM3WdMUR4elMgEtg4=/1440×2308/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/WN74PH6F65YB3URZUQGKHSY76A.jpg
        
        From mymemory most of Barron’s appearances have been of a similar nature, non confrontational just there.
        
        I remeber the vitriol visited on Chelsea Clinton when she was just a kid.
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:34pm
      - SGA
        
        No – this isn’t about Barron (as you well know, so I’m not going to waste my time further).
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:48pm
      - Tall Man
        
        When you use a “shotgun” you often hit more than your target.
        
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        March 1, 2021 6:15pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    LOL – TDS is more addictive to those on the left than crystal meth.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:46am
  - NoFax
    
    Don’t bring family into this mikenmildagain – that should be off limits.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:17am
    - SGA
      
      Normally I would agree with you. But in this case the family members in question took an active part in Trump’s administration – they weren’t “non-combatants” or even “non-combatants who expressed opinions publically” – they were significant players in their own right.
      
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      March 1, 2021 11:37am
      - Batman
        
        Players who are reportedly looking for primary opportunities in ’22 and ’24.
        
        So very fair game. Also they’re not children, which is the usual intent for DPFs rule.
        
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        March 1, 2021 12:25pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Why not – his family are active in politics.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:09pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        And Hunter as Joe’s bagman for over 25 years is not ?
        
        Way back in the 1990’s when Joe was a Senator and chairman of the senate finance committee they were producing a bill that drastically limited the ability of debtors to escape their credit card debts via bankruptcy. Joe shepherded that through and got it passed, and the largest Credit Card issuing Bank in Delaware gave Hunter a “position” that paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars for some very nebulous duties, and apparently he very rarely bothered to turn up at the bank.
        
        Joe was for sale cheap back then. He was known (informally of course) as the Senator for that Bank, but not in the MSM of course, D privilege applied even then.
        
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        March 1, 2021 2:51pm
      - Tall Man
        
        It’s a childish cheap shot.
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:36pm
- Andrei
  
  Well what do you expect?
  
  The President who got the most votes evah to acheive the Whitehouse cannot string a coherent sentence together
  
  https://twitter.com/CassyWearsHeels/status/1365450533708967937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1365450533708967937%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fnews-and-politics%2Fmatt-margolis%2F2021%2F02%2F28%2Fbidens-latest-verbal-slip-might-be-his-most-disturbing-yet-n1428963
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:51am
  - Inandout
    
    Andrei, he got the Dems over the line, that is all that matters to the ‘business as usual’ crowd. But yes, Joe is declining by the day,
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:17am
    - Ed Snack
      
      It is going to be so obvious that even Mikey and Batman (and our esteemed host !) are going to have to admit it to themselves.
      
      I wonder how they will spin it, it has been obvious for so long that Creepy Joe is very much Compos non Mentis, despite their fervent denials.
      
      Ready to admit it yet boys ? And Cue Mikey’s whataboutism with “women, camera…..”
      
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      March 1, 2021 2:54pm
- Sacha
  
  I liked the tribute to Russ Limbaugh – not sure I’ll cope with actually watching Trumpy, although an accurate precis of his speech should be readable.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He has lost his power of POTUS, but he has not lost his power as leader of the Republicans. The RINOs will be railroaded
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:01am
  - kloyd0306
    
    ….and not before time.
    
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    March 1, 2021 11:19am
  - curry4me
    
    Steve Otto(North Shore) And good riddance when they are.
    
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    March 1, 2021 3:19pm
Tauhei Notts

Jacinda said on NewstalkZB;
“the best thing people can do is tell the truth”
Jacinda should refrain from looking at a mirror when she makes a comment like that.
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March 1, 2021 8:49am
- Ruahine
  
  We have ways of making you talk.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  hahahahaha
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:55am
Maggy Wassilieff

Looks like someone needs to do some clear messaging to the folks in South Auckland.

Their front-line GPS are e-mailed to come and get vaccinated only to discover that it wasn’t so..

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437369/covid-19-gps-denied-dhbs-leftover-vaccines-it-s-just-soul-destroying
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March 1, 2021 8:58am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Heh, it might damage Ardern’s popularity immeasurably
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:50am
- Brian McDonald
  
  They’ve got a point, Maggy. Hope we hear from the MOH on this today. The front liners need support not a blitz of criticism from the frightened luvvies on KB. Some in the Communities are swallowing the conspiracy crap offered by the likes of KK here. Even some churches tried to open yesterday.
  I hope that Judith Collins becomes involved in South Auckland instilling some discipline and respect for doing things the right way. Cometh the hour cometh the woman.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:54am
kevn

New mantra… ‘covid kills’.
Repeat endlessly for effect.
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March 1, 2021 9:03am
Maggie Pie

BREAKING 😀 😀 😀

News reporters around the World are shitting bricks as the new Llanfairgwllpywmgyllgogerychwnrdrobwllentyantysilliogogogoch Covid variant has been identified in Wales.
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March 1, 2021 9:04am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, is that strain ‘the only virus in the village’?
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:18am
- Sacha
  
  Dear God – let’s hope it doesn’t get to Hawkes Bay then –
  the Taumatawhakatangihangakoauautamateaturipukakapikimaunga covid (?sp) variant could be the final straw.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:56am
- Littletramp
  
  How do we give a post 2 ticks?
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:22am
- Paulus
  
  Been there many years ago !
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:42am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  I went to school near there.. It is known as Llanfair PG
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:19am
Maggy Wassilieff

You should be in no doubt that we have a killer in our midst

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437365/covid-19-update-covid-kills-says-ardern

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437346/jacinda-ardern-warns-new-zealand-covid-kills-people
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March 1, 2021 9:24am
- Frank the tank
  
  Got to love Covid fear porn
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:47am
- krazykiwi
  
  From damaged mental health, suicides, premature deaths on account of deferred/cancelled treatments, to reduced life expectancy due reduced wealth … Ardern has blood on her hands.
  
  History will judge her and her type very harshly, as our grandchildren struggle under the debt-soaked, authoritarian state that this manufactured crisis has been used to accelerate.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:52am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Not necessarily. It depends who writes the history.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:26am
Maggy Wassilieff

Universities cutting senior staff…
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018785541/universities-cut-nearly-700-jobs-after-foreign-student-loss
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March 1, 2021 9:47am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Support and vote for fuckwits and you will eventually get fucked.
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:50pm
- Pharmachick
  
  Short sighted, very short sighted. They will disproportionately lose senior academics in their ~50s … Essentially kneecapping themselves for future academic leadership and institutional memory, hence 10 years from now expect more restructuring as the Unis repeat the mistakes of the early 00s.
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:15pm
- curry4me
  
  Maggy Wassilieff: I guess they can learn to instal solar panels.
  
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  March 1, 2021 3:23pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  So now these people (and many thousands of other redundant workers) will no longer be paying income tax and likely start drawing unemployment. This on top of the billions of dollars of debt being accumulated by this Labour government bodes poorly for all Kiwis.
  
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  March 1, 2021 5:30pm
Maggie Pie

A little advice needed please. I was given a jar of ‘Ajinomoto’ and told it makes a great addition to meals by adding a real umami flavor.
The instructions on the jar appear to be Asian so was wondering about what quantity to use……Anyone??
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March 1, 2021 9:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Ajinomoto is the name of the company
  
  Check further… It’s probably just msg.
  
  Anyway, for a flavour like umami, just use a little to begin with and keep tasting through the cooking.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:56am
  - rangitoto
    
    Interesting product list.
    
    Ajinomoto Co., Inc. (味の素株式会社, Ajinomoto Kabushiki gaisha) is a Japanese food and biotechnology corporation which produces seasonings, interlayer insulating materials for semiconductor packages for use in personal computers, cooking oils, frozen foods, beverage, sweeteners, amino acids, and pharmaceuticals.
    
    I hope Maggie Pie isn’t seasoning her food with the interlayer insulating materials or pharmaceuticals.
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:05am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    If it says “Aji-no-moto” (the company name) and then underneath “Umami Seasoning” then it will be monosodium glutamate (MSG).
    
    Ref: “Ajinomoto Co., Inc. was created in 1908 as a subsidiary of Suzuki Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd., and was founded in May 1907 by Saburosuke Suzuki II and Dr. Kikunae Ikeda. Ajinomoto was created to allow Dr. Kikunae Ikeda, a professor at Tokyo Imperial University, to sell monosodium glutamate seasoning made from wheat that he had invented and patented. Ikeda created the seasoning after discovering that monosodium glutamate was the source of a flavor that he named “umami.”
    
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    March 1, 2021 10:37am
- alwyn
  
  It is both the name of the company and the name of the product.
  https://www.ajinomoto.com/msg/what-is-aji-no-moto-and-how-is-it-made
  For a meal for 4 I would think a teaspoon would be plenty. Take Maggy’s advise and start with a little bit.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:52am
- Fletch
  
  You can also use that Google Translate and some other phone apps to view instructions in English. I guess the result might vary though.
  
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  March 1, 2021 10:56am
Sacha

I think you add to taste – my Japanese daughter-in-law uses it sparingly, a bit like any spice/flavouring.
Try it with some noodles –
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March 1, 2021 10:02am
MCos

Tweet of the hour
https://twitter.com/mllichti/status/1366131959957700617?s=21
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March 1, 2021 10:22am
- Ed Snack
  
  Yep, Pence has at least twice that level of support in a wider audience !
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:56pm
Rusty

Covid kills says our PM. So does cancer, heart disease, diabetes and the common flu/cold

Hundreds of Kiwis have died from those diseases since covid started a year ago and others through car accidents etc,

Mostly 25 elderly Kiwis have died from this virus and even then it is questionable whether covid only played a secondary cause in those deaths.

If we continue to have these lockdowns people aren’t going to be dying from covid but through suicide, mental depression, family abuse, alcohol and drug abuse
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March 1, 2021 10:34am
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Prime minister Ardern basically had nothing to be proud of before Covid 19 hit the world scene. For whatever reason New Zealand has (so far) avoided the worst effects and the PM has gotten a lot of kudos out of that. She will do anything to keep that image going.
  
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  March 1, 2021 5:22pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Failed economies and business also kill as does stress, anxiety and many other triggers which deny hope and expectations of a healthy prosperous controllable future.
  The Gobblement is just that–exhausting the people and their tolerance from their inability to do anything other than Facebook or Vogue.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:31pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

Got a mate who trained six months for the half-ironman in Taupo on Saturday. Can’t go ahead now. The sponsored athletes who trained for the full ironman must be gutted, just like the loads of Kiwis who rushed home to the “sanctuary” of their homeland.
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March 1, 2021 10:52am
Fletch

Feel free to add more lines –

“On the second day of lockdown, Jacinda gave to me..

More shops a-closing,
And a caring bureaucracy”.
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March 1, 2021 10:54am
- mandk
  
  “On the third day of lockdown, Jacinda gave to me..
  
  Dishonest press releases
  More shops a-closing,
  And a caring bureaucracy”.
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:40pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    And a ~~caring~~ swearing bureaucracy.
    
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    March 1, 2021 6:25pm
Fletch

Trump is killing it in his speech. And why wouldn’t he? Just look at the materiel he has to work with, provided by Biden.
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March 1, 2021 11:11am
- Batman
  
  Killing it? I hear he’s slurring and jumping from greatest hit to greatest hit, none of which is accurate, as per.
  
  Though if you love the band enough I suppose they never manage to disappoint!
  
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  March 1, 2021 11:32am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Cmon Batty – a TDSer like your self will be watching it live, hanging off every word just like a shot of meth.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:07pm
    - Batman
      
      Hahaha no thanks, I have no interest in watching that when I could be doing literally anything else, including getting a vasectomy.
      
      I’ve just seen reports from onlookers and reporters.
      
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      March 1, 2021 12:21pm
      - Frank the tank
        
        Lol vasectomy.
        
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        March 1, 2021 1:49pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Sticking pins in your eyes is supposed to be quite fun
        
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        March 1, 2021 5:53pm
  - fernglas
    
    His oratory reminds me a lot of those TV preachers, and now he has started asking for donations, he’s acting like one too.
    
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    March 1, 2021 12:19pm
    - Inandout
      
      fern, give the man his dues, he doesn’t waddle onto the stage and say ‘where am I?’ after mumbling incoherently.
      
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      March 1, 2021 1:07pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He said ‘who knows, who knows, I may even decide to beat them for a third time’
  Play school TV1said he never mentioned running again. That is what $100M does in NZ.
  Yeah I know, don’t watch it, but the speaker of the house had it on
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:13pm
Maggie Pie

“Who knows, I may even decide to beat them for a third time”
Pres. Donald J. Trump – CPAC

LOL!!!
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March 1, 2021 11:15am
Maggy Wassilieff

The NZ Climate Commission puts up a model that cannot be critiqued

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/opposition-mps-clash-with-climate-commission
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March 1, 2021 11:25am
- cmm
  
  … and heaven forbid anyone should criticize it. That would just be negative.
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:16pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  A model that cannot be critiqued==trash can quality only.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:23pm
I remember when

HB Today: Developer building affordable houses for Maori: Market is not designed for us.
A Hastings developer trying to get Maori out of Motels and emergency housing and into affordable housing says most private developers are not interested in ventures at his end of the market.
George Reedy hopes to build 120 homes as part of Waingakau village in Flaxmere.
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March 1, 2021 12:01pm
- mandk
  
  They would have to be really cheap houses.
  
  I’m not sure many people who could afford to buy a house would choose to live in Flaxmere.
  
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  March 1, 2021 12:34pm
- GJM
  
  I suggest that they will need to be fairly indestructible concrete walls so fist sized holes don’t appear in the walls, and easy to clean down meth contamination, maybe with stainless steel bathroom fixtures. Won’t be much of a change for what many of them are used to.
  There is a reason so many are in motels. No landlord will have anything to do with them.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:48pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just said… “You know what our home is missing? A box of shit. Let’s get a cat”
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March 1, 2021 12:13pm
Yvette

Not quite a team of five million –
South Auckland councillor Fa’anana Efeso Collins says talk of a tough crackdown on those who don’t comply with Covid rules will only be counterproductive, particularly when so much has already been asked of his region in response to the pandemic.
• Collins pointed to low engagement during the census, the region’s gang issues and lower immunisation rates as examples of how disconnected some are in South Auckland.
• Given a high number of the MIQ hotels are in South Auckland, along with the bulk of the border workforce, further outbreaks in the region were inevitable.
• “And let’s not forget this is against the backdrop where you have a hospital that was dripping with poo [*] up until recently, and a health system that’s already struggling under the demand for its services, so you can start to see why some will be reticent when asked to comply with further restrictions.”
• Collins came under attack last night for backing calls for residents of South Auckland to be prioritised in the vaccine roll-out.
“I’ve received a number of messages today with people saying the church should excommunicate me and calling me to repent for supporting a vaccine roll-out in (south) Auckland,” he wrote on Twitter.
• And “I can see we’re slowly moving into the post-kindness phase, where instead of being a team of five million, we are hearing that people just need to be compliant.”

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/post-kindness-rhetoric-targeting-south-auckland-covid-cases-backfire-warns-efeso-collins
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March 1, 2021 12:29pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

You can’t fix stupid. Turns out you can’t quarantine it either
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March 1, 2021 12:29pm
oldfella

It would be great if the site had a Delete function that worked. Hitting the button doesn’t do it.
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March 1, 2021 12:32pm
Maggie Pie

Trumpy spoke for the best part of an hour at CPAC!
No notes, no teleprompter.

I doubt creepy Joe can even stay awake that long.
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March 1, 2021 12:47pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, Nurse Jill would need a basket full of amphetamines to keep Joe awake that long.
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:08pm
- Batman
  
  Maggie, the teleprompter may not be visible but it was there.
  
  Here he is, reading from the left hand screen today: https://images.app.goo.gl/QeMM9jMKQFhi5QKr7
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:48pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!!
    I’m calling ‘FAKE NEWS’ Batz.
    We can’t see it.
    
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    March 1, 2021 2:04pm
    - doublehappy
      
      I can’t see it either, just a lectern. Could be some notes on it, but then most speakers have prompts of subjects they want to cover.
      
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      March 1, 2021 3:38pm
    - alwyn
      
      Here are a string of images of Trump using teleprompters. Everyone of these stock photos includes them. They are mostly shown with the screen between the camera and his face which makes them obvious.
      https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/photos/trump-teleprompter?family=editorial&phrase=trump%20teleprompter&sort=mostpopular
      Most modern Presidents used them Obama always used one and you can tell when they broke down by the disjointed speech he gave.
      
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      March 1, 2021 9:07pm
  - Inandout
    
    Bat, when Biden speaks he squints his eyes to try and read the prompter and even then he gets confused. My God you chose a doozy one there.
    
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    March 1, 2021 2:15pm
- curry4me
  
  Maggie Pie: Cool! Wish I’d thought of that line.
  
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  March 1, 2021 3:32pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You will 😀
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:02pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Having watched Trump speak at the 6 Jan meeting I would be amazed if he used a teleprompter. He spoke most fluently and rattled off numbers in context very fluently. He was not looking at the screen obviously and the numbers were coming even when his head was facing directly away.
  
  Biden, now…
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:17pm
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    I noticed how he ad libbed during part of his speech. To get a teleprompter to cover those witticisms, ad lib, would be near impossible.
    
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    March 1, 2021 7:48pm
Jack5

Here comes the new School History propaganda …

In Stuff papers today, a hint of the Maori propaganda that’s going to be forced on our children with the new history curriculum.

In what Stuff labels an “in-depth article” and an “in truth article”, Florence Kerr quotes Tom Roa, a Waikato University Maori Studies lecturer on oral history version of casualties in the Waikato war.

The oral accounts, Roa is reported as saying, are backed up in accounts in Sydney newspapers of the time.

The official account for an attack on Rangiaowha, on 21 February, 1864
reports 12 people died. Roa says:

“A war correspondent from the Sydney Morning Herald reported seeing 112 bodies; this figure didn’t include those trapped in houses and a church that soldiers set alight.”

What was the date of that report, and did it say there were bodies in houses and the church, or is that from the oral history of Maori, which Roa says puts the death toll at “just over 300” – fairly precise for an account passed down through generations.

Roa also talks of new information from British records indicating two sites where “women and children were killed”.

In what war, anywhere, any time, have women and children not been killed when men have made their towns, villages, even pa, defended strongholds?

Did the Sydney Morning Herald allege women and children had been burned in a church, or is that Maori oral history? That detail is relevant.

Sounds as though the new history Ardern and her Socialists are forcing on our children equates colonial and British forces with an SS panzer division moving through France in 1944. If the school history is going to place British and colonials on a par with the Das Reich SS Division’s massacre of more than 600 French civilians at Oradour-sur-Glane it had better be able to prove its allegations, and prove them in detail.

Will the Woke History include the fact that the colonialists’ invasion force included hundreds of friendly Maori? Will children be told of the frailty of oral history?

Here’s the message for families from the report:

”And the correct record will be the one put before children as New Zealand history becomes mandatory, he [Roa] says.”

That softener for the compulsory school history, that is indoctrination, is brought to you today courtesy of your taxes – via the Ardern subsidy to newspapers.
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March 1, 2021 1:01pm
- graham
  
  I’ve said this before, that if I wanted to learn about the history of New Zealand, from a factual and trustworthy source, Stuff would be the very last place I would consider.
  
  When it comes to reporting New Zealand history, I simply do not trust Stuff. They quite clearly have an agenda, and they seem determined to push this agenda of blaming everything that is wrong in New Zealand on “colonisation”, and making anybody who isn’t Maori feel guilty for things that happened a long time ago, down our throats. I do not believe Stuff can be trusted to report NZ history in a fair, balanced, and neutral manner.
  
  At least they don’t hide it, but I’ve decided I can live without it.
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:55pm
- Cobolt24
  
  I want to know if this new history curriculum will include the musket wars, if such a thing was carried out by the British, you’d never hear the end of it!
  I doubt there will be much, if anything since it doesn’t fit their political agenda.
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:13pm
  - Mike
    
    Yes, it would be an important facey of early European contact and colonization.
    
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    March 1, 2021 7:24pm
- oldfella
  
  Great comments, Jack.
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:28pm
- curry4me
  
  ack5: I doubt a future National led government will scrap it.
  
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  March 1, 2021 3:36pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  “Oral” history from an newspaper. Tui ad..
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:12pm
Maggie Pie

I see Westfield are changing the names of their Shopping Malls to ‘Living Centers’

Just saying.
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March 1, 2021 1:07pm
- Fletch
  
  Not ‘Covid disbursement hubs”?
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:20pm
- sooty
  
  Bring your jamies and onesies!
  You can check in, but can’t check out,
  
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  March 1, 2021 1:45pm
  - Fletch
    
    Like the Hotel California?
    
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    March 1, 2021 2:31pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      No clocks in malls – why?
      
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      March 1, 2021 4:18pm
Maggie Pie

Supercity Mayor Phil Goof has issued a challenge.
Says he’s prepared to forego his ratepayer funded salary, and live on Government wage subsidy of $580 for duration of all future Covid lockdowns……providing Cindy and Robbo agree to do the same.

Waiting, waiting…..
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March 1, 2021 1:43pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  3 commies, it will never happen. Just being a publicity junkie
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

NZ Taxpayer’s Union on FB:
The Story of the Haircut
One day a florist in Wellington went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you, I’m doing community service this week’ The florist was pleased and left the shop.
When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.
Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you, I’m doing community service this week.’ The cop was happy and left the shop.
The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts waiting for him at his door.
Then an MP came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The MP was very happy and left the shop.
The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen MPs lined up waiting for a free haircut.
And that, friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.
As US President Ronald Reagan said: “Both politicians and diapers need to be changed often and for the same reason.”
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March 1, 2021 2:25pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  Wish I could uptick you more than once for this one!
  
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  March 1, 2021 5:08pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

You will not see this on NZ News. “Do you miss me yet?’ LOL.
Batman says he is reading from a teleprompter – I don’t think so Tim.
https://rumble.com/ve8w6z-do-you-miss-me-yet-donald-trump-has-cpac-audience-go-wild.html?
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March 1, 2021 2:33pm
cmm

Using your child for activism is child abuse. I hope that is not a permanent tattoo.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/childs-name-shortened-by-teachers-for-being-too-hard-to-pronounce/EB7WATZ46TZ4OR6F4DND7AVV5A/
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March 1, 2021 2:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not hard to pronounce at all. Pronounce all of the vowels. Is this the level teachers have sunk too?
  
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  March 1, 2021 2:55pm
  - Ehlana
    
    I didn’t think it looked too difficult either Steve. But then I thought teachers these days learned about the importance of correct pronunciation of people’s names at Teachers College.
    
    I learned as a school child how to pronounce vowels in Maori words, and to end the syllables with them, so I could at least make a first attempt. And presumably the child knows how to say it, so could correct any errors.
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:22pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yes eh hoa
      
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      March 1, 2021 5:52pm
      - sooty
        
        Is that real tattoos on that kid?
        
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        March 1, 2021 6:31pm
- Fletch
  
  Is what I thought, too. Everyone going on about the pronunciation of the kid’s name and ignoring the tattoo, which is tantamount to child abuse.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:33pm
oldfella

Just looked at Stuffed’s cartoon.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/114832270/jeff-bell-cartoons
Does anyone know what the hell it means?
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March 1, 2021 2:50pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Lefties, get you blankie and teddy and off to the basement. This will make you sick otherwise.
Trump calling out the RINOs. Their time is now limited.
https://rumble.com/ve8wmr-trump-calls-out-every-republican-who-voted-for-impeachment.html?
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March 1, 2021 2:52pm
- curry4me
  
  Steve Otto(North Shore) Excellent snippet. With a JFK accent it’d be perfect. Excellent will do though.
  
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  March 1, 2021 3:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    JFK was the last ‘true’ Democrat, and what did they do to him?
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:20pm
dave_c_

Here we go, here we go – Ardern, as in classic German (read NAZI) style, encouraging the population to ‘dob in’ breaches of lockdown.

Slippery slope if ever there was one !
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March 1, 2021 3:33pm
- cmm
  
  First tested by Woodrow Wilson in 1918 with the American Protective League in 1917-19.
  
  Citizen vigilantes running amok with FBI and presidential approval – even getting “Secret Service” badges. While they were sniffing out foreigners (especially Germans), they really kicked it up a gear when the Spanish Flu turned up.
  
  If she was a fraction more organized we’d have the Aotearo Protection League running roadblocks and beating people up in the name of kindness.
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:09pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Roadblocks start tomorrow up North, had to detox first //
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:29pm
  - dave_c_
    
    I wouldn’t put it past this lot, to have invented the a story about someone in the south of Auckland suburb flouting the rules. After all, how are we to know this is ‘truthful’.
    Just a hint of a breach to facilitate an opportunity to enrage the populace into snitching on their neighbours.
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:29pm
Rich Prick

The Karens and the snitches will be in overdrive. The might not like my response.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300241322/live-jacinda-ardern-urges-public-to-call-out-alert-level-breaches-frontline-nonhealth-border-workers-next-to-get-vaccinated
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March 1, 2021 3:44pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Almost like Jaspinda thinks the public work for her. Keep it up SLG
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:31pm
  - cmm
    
    Having just written a multi-grand cheque to Cindy’s slush fund (aka IRD), I think we probably do all work for her.
    
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    March 1, 2021 5:07pm
- Dougal10
  
  “Call out ” where I come from means outside for a fight, guess she has lost the plot.
  
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  March 1, 2021 8:17pm
Maggie Pie

Just watched a couple of short takes from ‘Oprah’s’ upcoming interview with Hazz and Meghz.

Harry appears to be totally fixated on things that happened to his mum, Princess Diana, at one point saying “….his greatest fear is that history repeats itself”

My partner wondered if Meghan was supposed to be getting a lift home with Tiger the other night.
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March 1, 2021 3:47pm
Tony Stuart

Key take-out from the 3pm address from the Podium of Truth – dob in your family and neighbours, but do it in a kind way!
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March 1, 2021 3:49pm
- SB2
  
  Tony Stuart, any harsh punitive measures you have in mind?
  
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  March 1, 2021 3:54pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Now is the chance to use a ghost phone. Report all of the arseholes in your street that you hate – assuming you live in a house.
    I thought trolls lived under a bridge
    
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    March 1, 2021 4:35pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Oh, he’s got his usual outlet on this blog where he can falsely name and try to shame old ladies.
      
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      March 1, 2021 4:48pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Can we dob in an incompetent govt too?
  How are we going to call the authorities to deal with them who have deceived the nation.
  
  The PM needs to be careful when she opens her mouth. Personal nastiness could be re-directed back.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:06pm
Dougal10

Depends on your definition of kind.
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March 1, 2021 4:18pm
Maggy Wassilieff

It is all deja-vu

The PM threatened us all with Commissioner Bush last year when naughty folk flouted rules…

“Police will take the information reported online and make contact to remind those breaching the restrictions of their responsibilities.

….we will not hesitate to take enforcement action if people continue to ignore the restrictions.”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2020/03/jacinda-ardern-very-frustrated-with-lockdown-breachers.html
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March 1, 2021 4:30pm
- herb1
  
  I for one am disgusted at Ardern. Because she feels the mood shifting against her awesome popularity she decided to encourage us to direct our anger against the family in south Auckland , and the 21 year old son in particular .
  Most of us know where this will end up.
  Online abuse , death threats and who knows , the suicide of one or more of the family.
  Yet the thickos in this country will play along with Arderns nasty game and forget that we’re in lockdown not because of this 1 family in South Auckand . We’re in lockdown because of the repeated failure in our border security . Failures that have continually been pointed out to Ardern by the opposition , by viral experts at Auckland and Dunedin Universities and even her bestie, Helen Clarke.
  Ardern as leader of this country is the one to blame and the one who accept responsibility and resign.
  She needs to reflect on every General in history who’s failed big time in battle and consider wether they would have kept their job or head , by blaming the lowest private soldier in the Army
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:52pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yes,
    look at how Ardern is drip-feeding information to the public about these naughty families…
    now we learn 2 mothers went for walk.
    
    Has she forgotten that it was her own Minister of Health who first showed NZ how easy it was to flout Lockdown rules?
    
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    March 1, 2021 5:54pm
    - alex Masterley
      
      And now there is a wee bit of push back from the family. newshub (i know they dont really do news but..) reports that the young woman who worked at KFC had no MOH advise to self-isolate. There is a suggestion in the newshub report the PM may have misspoken!
      
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      March 1, 2021 7:09pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        oh dear, oh dear
        
        The PM will have to refute that
        
        https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/03/covid-19-kfc-worker-says-she-was-never-told-to-self-isolate-wants-an-apology-from-pm.html
        
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        March 1, 2021 7:28pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I hope she doesn’t treat her Cabinet that way.
    
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    March 1, 2021 6:03pm
  - Herodotus
    
    And I see that our beloved PM will appear on both TV stations after 7:00. It must be serious.😱
    
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    March 1, 2021 6:27pm
  - ecco
    
    Sorry disagree with you here. Those families blatantly flouted the law, with no thought as to the consequences for a whole nation. This is costing millions, if not billions because of the transgressions of these people. This is serious stuff and people are going to lose their jobs over it, think Queen St retailers for eg. Also Australia will be slamming the door shut on any bubble for many more weeks if not months.
    
    Where Ardern is falling down on the job is in her ducking for cover and saying that it’s the police’s job to deal to these transgressors. Now that’s pure politics on her behalf.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:23pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggy… Scary. FO.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:17pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Naughty folk left Auckland on Saturday night, just saying.
I did hear Air Force planes leaving Whenuapai – more than 2
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March 1, 2021 4:38pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  https://youtu.be/TyMX-GkEaws
  
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  March 1, 2021 4:48pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Willie Jackson? He was at the boxing.
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:33pm
cmm

So nobody has been charged yet for not wearing a facemask.

There is plenty of evidence that a face mask has no significant benefit except trying to catch coughing/sneezing on the way out from an actively sick person. If you’re not coughing and sneezing (or being actively coughed and sneezed on) then there’s bugger all reason to wear one.

If they don’t charge anybody then the fear merchants don’t get the mask wearing diktat will not get challenged in court and found wanting.
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March 1, 2021 5:04pm
- Ian Boag
  
  evidence that a face mask has no significant benefit
  
  More likely to be “not a lot of evidence that a face mask has significant benefit” …. not quite the same thing.
  
  A (possibly) interesting thought – how would you set up an experiment to test this? Has such an experiment been done anywhere?
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:01pm
- ecco
  
  They seem to have had a lot of success in containing covid in Asia where mask wearing is widespread.
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:26pm
  - Dougal10
    
    I thought they wore masks so you couldn’t smell bat on their breath.
    
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    March 2, 2021 6:53am
igm

Good news today. ASB is increasing term deposit rates, be they very small, but at least that is a start.
May be some extreme!y good buys when this affects the idiots who have over committed themselves at depositors’ expense for upmarket vehicles etc.
Currently these rates only affect deposits, but will definitely flow onto borrowings.
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March 1, 2021 6:06pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I am rolling over an ANZ Bank term deposit, which will be $47,101.56, tomorrow. I have been quoted 0.35% for 90 days. I paid my ANZ credit card bill on Monday 22nd February. Had I paid on Tuesday 23rd the rotten bludgers would have charged me 19.95%.
  Nobody gets charged for bank robbery these days as their rock solid defence would be that it was impossible to thieve from a thief.
  
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  March 1, 2021 7:56pm
kevn

@iboag… biden wears 2 masks. Must have his nose poking out to breathe.
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March 1, 2021 6:15pm
Maggie Pie

My partners just arrived back from his office.
He reckons going by the amount of traffic around the city, it’s twice as busy as that last lockdown.
Aucklanders are finally getting wise to all this shit he reckons.
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- tf78
  
  Maggie, I just got an email from Ratepayers guys and the council are having a meeting at 7pm tonight about their 10 year budget. (called without public notification of course).
  
  consultation@aklc.govt.nz
  
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  March 1, 2021 6:40pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My partner reckons he saw Goff this arvo walking up Wyndham Street issuing parking tickets.
    
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    March 1, 2021 7:34pm
70andstilllearning

Herr Princess? – wondering how the conversion therapy is going and what the vows might say?
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March 1, 2021 7:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Jacinda Ardern’s Government needs a reset.
https://www.act.org.nz/free_press_1_march_2021

The Prime Minister is subtly but unmistakably shifting the blame for the latest lockdown to Case M….

This episode tells us a lot about the Government. First, its contact tracing is not up to scratch. Second, it’s not prepared to be reflective and take the blame. Finally, its kindness includes the Prime Minister, a master communicator, publicly shifting all the blame to a young man and his family when it should be shared with her.
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- 70andstilllearning
  
  Maggy – not being cynical here but do you really believe the leopard can change it’s spots? The only reset that really occurred with this lot was that Norm K……….
  
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  March 1, 2021 9:06pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    ……and it has taken just about 5 decades to get back to where they were, even with a couple of good false starts.
    
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    March 1, 2021 9:52pm
70andstilllearning

Oh dear! It only gets better. Left vs left. On mobile device and difficult to link – but Hui/Mihingarangi Forbes v Jacinda Ardren- only watched 1/2 but pure comedy on a Monday night on Newshub!!!?
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