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krazykiwi

In yesterday’s GD, Master Mariner posted a link to the latest Freedomhouse Freedom of the World 2021 report. It is worth repeating.

As a lethal pandemic, economic and physical insecurity, and violent conflict ravaged the world in 2020, democracy’s defenders sustained heavy new losses in their struggle against authoritarian foes, shifting the international balance in favor of tyranny. Incumbent leaders increasingly used force to crush opponents and settle scores, sometimes in the name of public health, while beleaguered activists—lacking effective international support—faced heavy jail sentences, torture, or murder in many settings.

These withering blows marked the 15th consecutive year of decline in global freedom. The countries experiencing deterioration outnumbered those with improvements by the largest margin recorded since the negative trend began in 2006. The long democratic recession is deepening.

The impact of the long-term democratic decline has become increasingly global in nature, broad enough to be felt by those living under the cruelest dictatorships, as well as by citizens of long-standing democracies. Nearly 75 percent of the world’s population lived in a country that faced deterioration last year.

Socialism’s long, brutal march through our democratic freedoms.
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March 5, 2021 8:04am
- Raphael
  
  You will own nothing and you WILL be happy
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:31am
- oldfella
  
  KK, this lack of freedom is being spearheaded by the left with their drive to carry out a cultural revolution. (Mao, anyone?)
  https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/03/the-cancellation-of-dr-seuss-should-disturb-you-because-youre-next/
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:02pm
RRM

It’s going to be fun trying to function today on 5hrs sleep. Thanks, 2:27am earthquake!
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March 5, 2021 8:07am
- burt
  
  <sarcasm>Now you understand how some parents of young children feel a lot of the time and why they sometimes need to just run away from the media for a few days.</sarcasm>
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:39am
  - RRM
    
    I’ve understood that for 8 years ?
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:10am
- MCos
  
  “It’s going to be fun trying to function today on 5hrs sleep.”
  
  It’s a tough world out there.
  
  You think that’s bad. Imagine what it was like for the guy who won $22mil the other day. He couldn’t sleep all night.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:19am
burt

I watched a guy with gang tattoos spit on the floor in a food court yesterday. Strutting around like he owned the country, spreading his filth during a pandemic. I considered calling the security guard over and identifying him for his actions but I didn’t – would you?
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March 5, 2021 8:13am
- krazykiwi
  
  With years of training, cuffs, tasers, guns and radio backup, the police are too timid to confront these animals. I suggest your security guard would have done absolutely nothing.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:19am
  - Nickc2
    
    The security guard and the gang member were likely related.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:54am
    - pdm
      
      Oy Nick – I must be unique.
      
      I am a security guard with no gang relationships or affiliations.
      
      Pale, stale white male – that’s me.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:42am
      - Nickc2
        
        We are a rarity.
        
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        March 5, 2021 11:17am
      - oldfella
        
        pdm, what would you have done with burt’s gang member spitting everywhere? Would you have called the cops? Would they have responded?
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:05pm
  - MCos
    
    What do you expect a security guard to do on minimum wages? They’re not likely to lay a hand on someone in a situation like that.
    
    Having said that I was in the Manukau Mall food court once when two guys in their twenties started fighting. A woman security guard appeared out of nowhere, bowled one of them over, grabbed him by the arm, pulled him to his feet and hustled him out onto the street. The family of the other one yanked him off in a different direction.
    A few minutes later the security guard reappeared looking very pleased with herself and had a yarn with her mate who cleaned the tables.
    I guarantee that wasn’t in her job description.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:24am
    - pdm
      
      Mcos said – `They’re not likely to lay a hand on someone in a situation like that.’
      
      Security guards are not allowed to lay a hand on anyone.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:44am
      - MCos
        
        That’s what I thought.
        However there must be some sort of “extenuating circumstances” clause in the law, surely.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:27pm
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      Why is there a security guard standing there if they will not keep the place secure for all customers? Fair play if he was intimidated, but if he can’t or won’t do the job, I cannot see the point of paying him, minimum wage or not.
      
      Aren’t the cops supposed to be our security guards anyhow? And why did we never used to see any of the now ubiquitous security guards even a couple of decades ago?
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:09am
      - MCos
        
        Maori wardens have been around for sixty years. They are a type of security force. Bouncers have been around for a very long time.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:36pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
    You might be surprised KK that police exist in a real world with real names, not hiding out anonymously on blogs. You’ve got a lot to say so why hide?
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:57am
    - I remember when
      
      You mean the 29 July 1981 Molesworth Street Red Squad member.
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:33am
    - Manu-Rau
      
      Maybe KK is trying to avoid being stabbed, or shot by a coward, or something like that.
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:35am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    The Police? Nah, probably too busy making Tik Tok videos.
    
    https://twitter.com/Emma_A_Webb/status/1367589663901319173
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:25pm
- igm
  
  Saw a group [Deleted – Mod] in a people mover occupying a disability space, driver spitting out the window, all smoking, and being a general nuisance.
  Security guards and a cop totally oblivious to this disgusting display . . . Coster possibly sees this as their right!
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:24am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Dont be surprised, Yesterday we saw Hate Speech attack on Whites and from the Prime Minister down and the MSM not a peep.
  
  Of course this yet again displays their two faced hypocrisy.
  But dont get angry. Dont get offended.
  
  Do what I do. Laugh at them. Treat them like a piece of dog shit on the soles of your shoes.
  
  They are but a sick joke. They deserve no respect because they show no respect. We the contributors who earn the taxes that pay their over inflated salaries must rise above them and look down on them.
  
  I know I do. I regard them all as a bunch of clowns.
  
  If you do this it not only stops you doing your head in but it gives you the smug satisfaction of knowing you are better than them.
  
  As I have posted before when I am in their company I make sure to tell an UnPC joke just to watch their reaction. LOL.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:14am
  - Kiwi_in_Paris
    
    Similar in Canada: https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/067/641/162/original/1a5cded8fdc7f695.jpeg
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:40am
    - doublehappy
      
      Did he really say that? That’s hard to believe.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:46am
      - Nickc2
        
        I’m with you on that. He is an idiot, but I don’t think he’s that good at it.
        
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        March 5, 2021 11:22am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Not going to work. The more this white scapegoating attitude becomes accepted, entrenched, actively promoted and even legislated, the more severe the actions required to turn it around. Laughing at someone coming for your head is not an effective tactic. These people (whether white liberals or brown agitators) are fueled by a hatred that is being deliberately stocked, and people who do not share the white man’s characteristic sense of universal tolerance (if not acceptance) are emigrating here in significant numbers every single year.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:17am
  - oldfella
    
    lastman, a great (long) read on Spiked! regarding free speech and which applauds the role of heretics and ranters.
    Do we have any of those on KB? 😉
    
    Free speech is what marks us out in history as a society of independent, morally autonomous individuals. As the great Dutchman of the Enlightenment, Spinoza, put it some 350 years ago, ‘In a free state, every man may think what he likes and say what he thinks’. It is the ultimate expression of our liberty that we may think for ourselves, whatever direction that might take us in. And we need to defend that freedom for ‘every man’, woman, or gender-fluid individual, or for none at all.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/03/05/lets-hear-it-for-the-heretics-and-ranters/
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:13pm
  - curry4me
    
    lastmanstanding: That’s why I started the Asterisk Presidency thing. Ridicule is a useful weapon against leftists because they have no sense of humour.
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:25pm
- rouppe
  
  Gang member would have said “didn’t happen”, you would have had no proof, and so the security guard could do nothing.
  
  I went on a ride-along back in the day, there was a radio call about timber being stolen from a yard and taken away in a blue van. We went past a gang pad in Newtown and waddya know at 10:30 at night were a bunch of gang members busily building up their perimeter fence with timber from a blue van.
  
  No proof it was stolen, nothing we could do…
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:26pm
Maggie Pie

Preparing dinner last night, and thought to myself why would anyone want to call their products… SMEG?
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March 5, 2021 8:13am
- burt
  
  Maybe we should call you Smeg Maggie.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:15am
- hullkiwi
  
  Maggie, better question.
  
  Why would you want to buy Smeg? Smeg products are typically Italian, all flare and when out of sight of the retailer, typically reliable as any other Italian mass product!
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:23am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    To be honest hull, I didn’t actually buy them.
    I actually ended up with a full set of 7 knives and a Block to keep them in with all my NW stickers.
    Funnily enuff they are made in Chinah!
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:44am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Far be it for me to suggest you got a double whammy. But, Italian flare in design and Chinese mass manufacture…..nice!
      
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      March 5, 2021 8:53am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      Be careful with them Maggie, apparently some people have found out they are sharp the hard way!
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:01am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Maggie – did you see this?
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/02/retro-styled-smeg-fridge-rated-the-worst-by-australian-consumer-group.html
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:42am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Benedict, that doesn’t surprise me.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:55am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Thanx for posting Bene. I wont bother collecting the stickers for the fridge now 😀
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:24am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      Imagine how many stickers you would need for a fridge…lol.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:02am
- curry4me
  
  Maggie Pie: Yeah, it’s a slightly unfortunate name from the viewpoint of anyone who has watched Red Dwarf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTMINrFtPlU&ab_channel=JarfJam
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:38pm
Frank the tank

Random musings today:

1). My mate in Brisbane has alerted me of another strain of WuFlu. Wait for it, there is now a Russian strain and it has a longer incubation period – St Ash and the Blairite will be hoping this one hits our shores – 2 week lockdown anyone?
2). It now appears being a fat bastard is more of a co-mortality with Chinavirus than age. LOL – that’s why the death rate has been lower in 3rd world shitholes.
3). It appears to have finally dawned on Grunter and Beetroot that never ending house price inflation has a downside. The entertainment of course will be when they realize you can’t fix it without plunging the economy into recession.
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March 5, 2021 8:16am
- RW Capitalist
  
  2. They have malaria and therefore more prescriptions of Hydroxychloroquil?
  Seeing more evidence, that used early and in dose adequate…this works and the only argument is that it hasn’t been tested for this.
  When does millions of cases of it taking the edge off this wuflu and saving peoples lives, become evidence.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:33am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Hydroxychloroquil = Trump = Devils spawn!
    
    Won’t be using that then!
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:07am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Sorry, //
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:16pm
- Simon
  
  “without plunging the economy into recession”
  
  Comrade NZ is in a recession now. The massive money print has painted over the cracks. The printing cant go on. Thats why some of the big companies are asking whats the exist strategy?
  
  NZ is badly placed economically, apart from everything else. The problem is rising inflation will lead to rising interest rates. Interest rates are rising in the US. They will rise here as well. Combined with rising income tax rates, entire destroyed sectors of the economy and cooling housing.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:33am
  - Frank the tank
    
    “Comrade” – I am no comrade – I am part of the resistance!
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:09am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Absolutely Simon,
    
    Transportation of goods up 2-300 % last 14 months.
    Petrol and diesel will continue to rise.
    
    The frustrating thing for all is there is No exit strategy, That has to be plain to everyone by now.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:24am
    - oldfella
      
      At least we won’t have to import all our petrol and diesel long term having such a good local oil drilling programme. /s
      
      BTW, I understand there are still companies drilling off the NZ coast under agreements which preceded Cindy’s ‘captain’s call’.
      So what would happen if one of them struck our equivalent of the North Sea Oil field – something so vast it could produce enormous wealth for the country.
      Would Cindy try/dare shut that down as well? \
      I’m guessing … probably.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:20pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Correct,
        However no further blocks up for auction,
        
        Ones that did have some have pulled the pin and not prepared to gamble.
        
        Down to political instability.
        
        No Oil Major prepared to risk it.
        NZ is known as “closed for business”.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:37pm
  - Tricati
    
    We were technically in recession prior to Covid, and the surplus Labour inherited had been spent.
    Covid gave them the excuse to borrow like hell & to ‘print’ money, all to cover there incompetent economic management over the prior 3 years, yet no real questioning of this.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:37am
    - Master Mariner
      
      And absolutely nothing to show for it.
      
      Its all been borrowed and will take a generation at least to pay back.
      
      The storm clouds are gathering.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:07pm
    - James Stephenson
      
      Yep, and it’s the fault of people who make a rational response to those policies and invest in property, that the housing market is out of control.
      
      If blame-shifting was an olympic sport…
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:10pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Similarities to the “Phoney war” WW2 before reality sinks in.
        I think House prices will be the least of concerns to be honest.
        
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        March 5, 2021 3:08pm
- Raphael
  
  2). It now appears being a fat bastard is more of a co-mortality with Chinavirus than age. LOL – that’s why the death rate has been lower in 3rd world shitholes.
  
  That will be throwing all the fat activists (who also want you to spell obesity “ob*sity” to prevent triggering) into a spin.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:34am
- redeye
  
  Sticking with your theme Frank, I’ve been wondering about New Zealand’s lack of political journalism.
  The governments own critical Simpson-Roche report was released just prior to Christmas. You’d think someone in the media would be offended they tried to hide the truth. They appear to easily offended by almost everything else.
  If they had a minuscule of pride they would be pissed she is just taking their compliance for granted. Or have we simply discovered their top price.
  Now would be a good time for some proper reporting of this report. COVID and this governments response is still very much today’s news and so far it has received scant coverage.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:49am
- I remember when
  
  Two is a reason for the skewed US figures which have allowed the emphasis on the dangers to younger age groups.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:53am
cmm

If we really want to fix family violence in NZ then let’s stop the wokeness.

Sure, people of all races, colours, religions etc commit domestic violence, but the stats are heavily skewed towards less pale participants.

Yet, somehow, we always see a picture with white people in it. When are we going to see a more representative sample being used in the photos?

The truth is that, in general, NZ does not have an extremely high rate of domestic violence – it is really just a small section of the population that significantly skew the numbers and they are not represented in that photo.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/jeremy-sutton-the-high-legal-cost-of-getting-protection-from-an-abusive-partner/WNC23ZE6HTXZH53CLNPPFQP6PM/
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March 5, 2021 8:16am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Something said to me once.
  “There are only a very few really bad people in this world.
  They just get around a lot.”
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:28am
- kowtow
  
  New Zealand doesn’t have a huge problem in that regard , but Ayotowrowa does.
  
  And with the ongoing deplatforming of independent voices ,there’ll be fewer people in the media talking about it/ allowed to talk about it .
  
  Dr Bassett the latest , and where’s the discussion.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018786126/nzme-pulls-racist-article-and-bans-bassett
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:30am
  - Cobolt24
    
    There’s still http://www.bassettbrashandhide.com which is becoming more popular
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:09am
  - backster
    
    Bassett is one of the most rational and sensible commentators on the media scene. It beggars belief that we should be denied his views. Coming on top of the sackings of Plunket and Banks it seems the Red Flag is being hoisted high on the NZ ME empire.
    Maybe though it is just my life long white prejudice showing through I’m so ashamed.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:40am
  - oldfella
    
    I think unfettered voices from both sides of the political spectrum are essential if we’re to have a ‘fair and balanced’ public debate about the important matters facing our country.
    Unfortunately, ‘fair and balanced’ has a different meaning for those on the left and means ‘only stuff we agree with.’
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:35pm
- Saks
  
  And notice how it’s a white fist pointing down, whereas the black fist points up when you are a black person taking a knee.
  
  Its deliberate messaging.
  
  Now repeat after me – black people are smarter, work harder and commit less crimes than white people. All white people are bad and their opinion is no longer welcome
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:30am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    When someone speaks of a different racial group as a different “species,” you can be pretty sure that genocide is on their mind.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:05am
    - Jack5
      
      If an insulter alleges you are of a different species, and the insulter’s culture traditionally included cannibalism, would it be apposite to respond: “That’s not good taste”?
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:56am
      - oldfella
        
        Is the insulter wearing a gang patch? Is he with a dozen bros in gang regalia? Do any of them have a sense of humour?
        Hard call, Jack, but I laughed.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:38pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  When I was in charge of picture selection for a certain national news organisation we were banned from choosing stock/file images of darker hued individual as generic illustrations for stories around certain subjects.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:39am
  - cmm
    
    I’m not surprised. Whenever ther’es a stock picture of a burglar it’s a whitey too.
    
    Photos are supposed to add value to the information, but clearly they are really just there to enhance the disinformation.
    
    Unfortunately we are very visual beings, so the photo adds credibility to the story (even if it is bullshit) and we often take in the “information” in the picture rather than the text.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:10am
    - kowtow
      
      And the perv turning up at the maori house for the net safe ad .
      
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      March 5, 2021 9:23am
    - Debsta
      
      Perception management reigns supreme, facts don’t matter!
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:11am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Correct. To the point that when we did a piece about adults’ violence towards children, hung on the Kahui twins peg, this was the photo that was selected
      
      https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/depressed-little-boy-sitting-on-the-floor-gm471031808-63295789
      
      And this was the one rejected on the grounds of skin colour
      
      https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/child-abuse-gm157502084-10547456
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:12am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        [Post corrected – Mod]
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:34am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        We also used this one around the time of Nia Glassie https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/child-abduction-concept-photo-gm655532566-119248957
        
        Seeing a pattern yet?
        
        BTW the stories were written by white journalists and pictures passed/failed by white editors.
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:38am
      - WaveyDavey
        
        Cheers Mod
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:40am
- I remember when
  
  Best way to stop the problem being fixed – don’t reveal all the facts.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:57am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Making it about race distracts from the real problem rather than helping to solve it.
  
  In any place with a generous welfare system, an underclass has developed characterised by low employment, poor parenting, crime, and violence. It is behaviour people learn from their parents, or whatever adults happen to be in the house during their formative years. Because people are the same race as their parents, a racial pattern can easily develop, but that’s more of a downstream consequence not part of the cause.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:52am
RRM

The busker in the tunnel at Wlg station this morning, is 4 kids playing the Dvorak American String Quartet. Nice.
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March 5, 2021 8:16am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Really nice if you put money in the hat.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:27am
Saks

Why are government ministers advising that people did a good job self isolating after the earthquake and possible tsunami (as if…)?

I thought self isolating was part of the covid narrative? Are they so full of their own spin they just yell out the most popular buzz word at the first opportunity?

Or are the just getting confused?
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March 5, 2021 8:17am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Was the CD minister on TV3, taking credit for a warning system that has been in place for decades? and she was only woken up by.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:26am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I gather that an alert went out at 3.30am warning of a tsunami, expected to arrive at 3am
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:27am
  - burt
    
    I’m surprised they didn’t say there would be a tsunami 100,000 meters high and then when a 12 mm ripple happened call it an outstanding success.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:30am
    - nathie
      
      Good thinking, Hendy and Ardern might steal that and announce later this morning that Labour’s ‘hard and fast actions’ saved one million people from potential death!
      
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      March 5, 2021 9:15am
    - oldfella
      
      I agree with Nathie. Look at all those lives we saved! Isn’t Cindy amazeballs?
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:43pm
  - Saks
    
    Oh that’s so good.
    
    Then carry out a 2 week propaganda to convince everyone that they were right but the tsunami misread the messaging
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:33am
    - oldfella
      
      Or blame the tsunami on an Asian family that flouted Cindy’s rules.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:47pm
  - nathie
    
    I don’t normally listen to Tony Amos in the wee small hours but I did this morning for an hour and a half (it was good to hear callers accounts, from truckies on the road to people self evacuating plus Tony himself was excellent) and yeah even he sounded flabbergasted when the authorities finally gave that tsunami warning much, much later than it would have hit the shores if there had been a big one!
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:37am
  - James Stephenson
    
    I got the Auckland message at 11.35 for the possible tsunami from the 8.0 earthquake, for which I had the notification from the Geonet an hour and a half earlier.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:14pm
    - burt
      
      I absoludely refude dat.
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:52pm
- RRM
  
  There was a strong-ish offshore earthquake in the general direction of the Hikurangi trench. The experts obviously thought a tsunami was possible.
  
  Would have been pretty silly to stay in the hazard zone because you’re worried about covid cases in sth Akl??
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:28am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  No, RNZ made it clear last night that the need to evacuate to higher ground overrode the Covid-19 rulings.
  
  Not much use being socially distanced from your neighbour when a tsunami wave is bearing down on you.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:46am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Here’s the official information:
    
    Evacuation advice overrides the current COVID-19 Alert Level requirements. Listen to local Civil Defence authorities and follow any instructions regarding evacuation of your area. If you are told to evacuate do not stay at home. Stay 2 metres away from others if you can and if it is safe to do so.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300245006/live-tsunami-activity-warning-for-northland-unpredictable-sea-surges-in-east-cape-after-74-kermadec-quake
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:53am
    - Inandout
      
      Maggy, buy on the sea front, expensive, but such beautiful views and high insurance premiums. The wise of course go for clifftops or just raised ground. Obama is not wise.
      
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      March 5, 2021 9:26am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      I can’t understand why they set up tide gauges on Raoul Island and then apparently don’t monitor them. They are not showing any tsunami activity but we have a warning out for the earthquake there???
      
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      March 5, 2021 9:39am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        https://www.geonet.org.nz/tsunami
        
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        March 5, 2021 9:54am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        Except now it shows the Raoul Island gauges have stopped reporting so maybe there is a serious issue.
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:19am
    - Durden
      
      Geonet site is screwed up. Not showing anything significant since 2:27 am quake as of 11:45 am.
      
      https://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/moderate
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:47am
      - Pharmachick
        
        Use this:
        
        https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=-85.02071,-403.94531&extent=80.2385,70.3125
        
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        March 5, 2021 2:30pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Thanks for link Pharmachick. Good site.
        
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        March 5, 2021 3:30pm
  - Ruahine
    
    The difference between reality and the Gov’ts created make believe disaster.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:55am
    - SGA
      
      meh – even if there is only a slight chance that this earthquake has generated a tsunami of any significance, it is the right call to evacuate at risk areas. It is the better “mistake” to make.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:53am
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        The tide gauges are showing only minor fluctuations of a foot or so which is the low end of the Pacific warning prediction. Do we really need to evacuate towns and cities for that??
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:08pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Alan
        I’d be interested to know more about how the system works. I assume there are models to provide predictions of tsunami threat for varying quakes and locations. Naturally, those predictions should be conservative – the downside risk of not issuing evacuation notices being so much more severe than the inconvenience form a false alarm.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:37pm
      - SGA
        
        You are being wise after the fact, Alan. You can’t evacuate a large town in 20 minutes, say. I have no problem with erring on the side of caution.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:46pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        I’d be even more interested to know why the system doesn’t work. The cost of shutting down towns and cities for nothing should make a proper system necessary and economic.
        
        The Raoul Island gauges are a sensible early warning for NZ for distant incoming waves from north and west. In this case up to 3m waves were predicted for them and it seems they did not survive whatever arrived. We obviously need a better installation there and preferable some more stations apart from those and the Chatham Islands gauge.
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:17pm
  - I remember when
    
    Death from the tsunami as resident stops to toss coin to decide whether to risk covid or the tsunami!
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:03am
    - Dougal10
      
      It would be recorded as a covid death by bloomers though.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:49am
  - Nickc2
    
    Ok, here’s the rub. The Covid-19 lockdown (all regions) must now be terminated immediately. The reason being the tsunami has overridden all Govt dictates applicable to current Covid-19 lockdowns.
    Come on PM, get your arse into gear and announce the lifting of Covid-19 lockdowns countrywide.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:04pm
    - Nickc2
      
      It’s obvious Glorious Leader doesn’t listen to her subjects. Locked down until 6:00AM Sunday. For what reason FFS. Power has gone to her head.
      I watched Glorious Leader’s lecture from the podium of knowledge this afternoon and honestly, It was abysmal to say the least.
      Who needed a lesson in NZ’s Covid history FFS and who gives a big rat’s arse what she’s been talking to the President of France about? In addition, what’s with the rave in a newly invented Maori language? What purpose did that serve?
      Why didn’t she announce the Lockdown Levels at the start and leave the rest of the stuff for those who can tolerate listening to her?
      I’m had enough of this crap. No more listening to her ever!!!
      
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      March 5, 2021 5:05pm
artemisia

Reckon it is time for surveys reporting the Eyeroll Index, counting those who are no longer in the team of 5 mill, Stuff readers ….
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March 5, 2021 8:19am
Simon

“My first proposal is that governments should not treat information as a tool for manipulating public behaviour. They should be calmer than the majority of their citizens; they should be completely objective. My second lesson would be that governments dealing with scientific issues should not allow themselves to be influenced by a single caucus of scientists. They should always test what they are being told in a way that, for instance, judges test expert opinion by producing a counter expert, and working out which set of views stacks up best.”

https://unherd.com/2021/03/lord-sumption-civil-disobedience-has-begun/

This wasnt done one year ago and its even worse now. All that is left now is covid cult.
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March 5, 2021 8:22am
- H. Upmann
  
  Simon – not forgetting of course, the Climate Cult.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:58am
- kowtow
  
  Sumption is brilliant , and we get so little of him from our media Party Gatekeepers.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:25am
- Master Mariner
  
  Thanks for link.
  
  The bit I liked was ,
  
  ““Democracy is inherently fragile. We have an idea that it’s a very robust system. But democracies have existed for about 150 years. In this country, I think you could say that they existed from the second half of the of the 19th century — they are not the norm. Democracies were regarded in ancient times as inherently self-destructive ways of government. Because, said Aristotle, democracies naturally turn themselves into tyranny. Because the populace will always be a sucker for a demagogue who will turn himself into an absolute ruler…”
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:40pm
- doublehappy
  
  Lord Sumption is a very clear-thinking man and some points in his article well worth reading and this first one could well be applied to a certain person. said Aristotle, “democracies naturally turn themselves into tyranny. Because the populace will always be a sucker for a demagogue who will turn him/herself into an absolute ruler”. This next quote, his own words are also applicable to the situation we find ourselves in. “My first proposal is that governments should not treat information as a tool for manipulating public behavior. They should be calmer than the majority of their citizens; they should be completely objective. My second lesson would be that governments dealing with scientific issues should not allow themselves to be influenced by a single caucus of scientists. They should always test what they are being told in a way that, for instance, judges test expert opinion by producing a counter expert, and working out which set of views stacks up best.”
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:42pm
  - Okahu
    
    Quite right doubleH. The Dutertes and Erdogans and Modi’s and that snivelling grifter the US just kicked have rather proved Aristotle’s point.
    Though your second point will have its objectors. I know a few around here will be seething should they hear Ken Ring will get to second guess the met service. Or alchemists be invited to weigh in on medsafe approvals. The number that find fault with astrologers being paid to create tide tables and opine on the nature of black holes will likely be diminished now NASA has thrown its institutional heft behind the science of climate change. But then there’s no helping some drongos.
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:25pm
dave_c_

Mmm – I must be getting too long in the tooth to keep up with the technologies being deployed these days !

“Black Boxes” – I thought these were the preserve of aircraft and public transport etc.

Yet : How would we know how far reaching this technology is deployed in our everyday activities ?

Tiger Woods told cops he didn’t even remember driving before his crash – as it’s revealed judge listed lack of skid marks on the road and damage to his SUV as probable cause for recovering the black box to find out if he was driving recklessly
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March 5, 2021 8:23am
- Benedict Yu
  
  These data recorders are in almost all cars built after about 2015. They don’t get much publicity. IIRC they record the last 24 hours of your driving – every last detail. I’m not sure if they can be turned off.
  
  My car is a 19 year old Toyota so I am safe 🙂
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:48am
  - cmm
    
    They typically have a rolling log lasting up to 24 hours or so – depending on vartious factors, but if a “significant event” occurs (eg. airbags going off), then they freeze the log so it can’t be overridden by new data. Most of them go into a mode where that data can never be wiped or changed – just copied – this allows the data to be used in court without people making allegations of tampering.
    
    Aircraft “black boxes” are real dedicated boxes (but they’re orange, not black).
    
    Car “black boxes” are typically not dedicated devices. They are normally just implemented as extra memory inside the ECU (engine computer).
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:37pm
- cmm
  
  The “black boxes” in cars and planes serve slightly different purposes.
  
  The original reason for black boxes in planes was to help in accident investigation to help improve aviation safety, although it is used as evidence in court too.
  
  For cars, the primary motivation is the other way around – as a legal defense for the car manufacturers.
  
  As cars become increasingly electronic (and software driven) there has been a huge increase in bogus claims that the car went mad and did X. Sure, sometimes the cars do go mad, but more often than not it ws the driver doing dumb stuff then claiming the car went beserk.
  
  So car manufacturers now fit “black boxes” which record what happened around certain events (eg. airbags going off) that record all the user inputs and vehicle responses. The primary purpose is to show that the software did the right thing, but these now provide forensic information too.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:55am
  - dave_c_
    
    thanks CMM – appreciate your explanation
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:30am
- Dairy Flat
  
  The navigation system in your modern car keeps a rolling record of your route traveled and time clocks it. No hiding from Big Brother or Sister now unless you buy a nice classic instead.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:55am
  - MCos
    
    Are you under the impression various surveillance systems besides some box in your car don’t exist that can be used to track your movements around the country?
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:13pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Yep,
  Same at sea.
  VDR ( Voyage data recorders) record all movement , conversations and responses.
  Incidently we retrieve Black boxes from Aircraft in the sea amongst other operations without going into detail.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:15pm
- James Stephenson
  
  Tiger Woods told cops he didn’t even remember driving before his crash – as it’s revealed judge listed lack of skid marks on the road…
  
  2 to 1 on that he fell asleep at the wheel.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:53pm
RW Capitalist

Couple of things this morning
There are questions around the CD warning, re last nights earthquake, but they seem to have no trouble using it for their covid propaganda?

Also, what’s coming up, what other screw up have they made?
They are now, not trotting out the PM or even the Minister of health, dear old Ashley, or the deputy Minister, NOW they are pushing forward the ASSOCIATE minister of health for announcements………TV3 this morning.
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March 5, 2021 8:23am
- Simon
  
  Is there anyway to get these covid cult alerts in Maori?
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:39am
  - cmm
    
    You can get it written in pre-colonial script too. Here it is:
    
    ” “
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:57am
Saks

Yesterday, there was an article on one of the bullshit new sites like newshub or something.

“Woman sounds warning that new world knives are sharp”. What did you expect?

The dulling down of the human race is well under way, unfortunately I still have at least 30 years left to watch the decline
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March 5, 2021 8:24am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Imagine all the complaints from various Karens had the knives NOT been sharp!
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:46am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I thought it was blunt knives that most were cut with, because the knife slipped?
    A sharp knife, how ’bout that?
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:21am
- JibberJabber
  
  This is right up there with a Stuff front-page exclusive of a couple of summers ago, where a Karen left a bottle of milk on the bench in the sun and it went off.
  Quite traumatic for her apparently ?
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:49am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Aotearoa: home of the not the sharpest knife in the draw . . .
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:16am
- Frank Thomas
  
  Yeah, next thing you know we will be getting “Man discovers water is wet” and that it’s very dangerous and needs to be more regulated as dozens of people in NZ die every year from it. FFS ///
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:19am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Water is regulated. Many people would die from drinking it if that was not the case.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:05am
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      They are clearly addicts. Medsafe must be called in to ban it unless you have a doctor’s prescription and an import licence.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:02pm
      - oldfella
        
        Plus permission from local iwi who own the water and get a royalty on every glass you drink.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:54pm
    - graham
      
      ‘Some’ water is regulated. Those of us on tank water are not.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:10pm
  - NoCash
    
    The hidden danger of Dihydrogen Monoxide indeed.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:01pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    Wasn’t it back in the 1990s when some wag convinced a Green MP that there was a dangerous shipment of “Dihydrogen Monoxide” in Welly Harbour. And she made a big fuss about it in parliament. I swear I remember that.
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:34pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I’ve hidden the office laminating machine. We have a young thing who thinks she needs to make signs for the rest of us. The latest warned of the danger of running with hot water. I don’t think any have run in decades let alone with hot water.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Fat shaming? Wait until she clicks onto that
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:23am
  - alloytoo
    
    Perhaps you should make some of your own, highlighting the risks of Laminating machines.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:09am
    - Ehlana
      
      Or how about the old favourite:
      
      If you notice this notice
      You will notice this notice
      Is not worth noticing
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:30am
  - doublehappy
    
    I remember making a laminated sign warning of boiling liquids in a microwave. Apparently, they can erupt like a volcano after you take the liquid out. My main thought was “this will impress OSH when they next visit”.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:24am
  - MCos
    
    Rather than hiding the machine and telling us your problems why don’t you explain to the perpetrator the signs are not needed?
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:34pm
    - Bea Rossini
      
      Because there’s no fun (fun = whinging) in that.
      
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      March 5, 2021 2:06pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      In these woke times that would be a white patriarchal micro aggression.
      
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      March 5, 2021 3:18pm
      - Rich Prick
        
        Hey, your lot created this environment, there was a good chance I could be accused of being racist too. It’s safer to have a laugh and share the mirth on sites like this.
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:26pm
- I remember when
  
  At least the knives are sharp…
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:20am
- graham
  
  Do none of these people eat steak? If so, what do they use to cut them with??
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:37am
  - sooty
    
    The axe!
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:01pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      To much effort, at the least an electric knife or a chain saw instead.
      
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      March 5, 2021 3:06pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Plastic knife and fork. Oh wait – plastic is out of the question
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:29pm
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Laugh all you want, but it’s surprising how many people don’t know how to use a kitchen knife properly, not just millenials.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:57am
  - I remember when
    
    Used to be a sharp rap on the knuckles for not using knives properly. Cure now banned.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:52am
    - Pharmachick
      
      I can’t EVEN… have you seen the way Americans use utensils?
      
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      March 5, 2021 2:36pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Like a lot of things in life,
    
    To use a knife correctly you must first learn how to sharpen.
    
    Basic life skills.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:17pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Learnt to stone and steel at an early age – skinning possums
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:31pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  The New World knives were significantly sharper than what most New Zealanders are used to. This caught people out.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    No excuses, the people who got cut were stupid
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:31pm
Meatloaf

Well its now happened. Labour MP Megan Woods is in charge of tenancy services. They are now unable to deliver what they promised.

On the 11th of February, my old Landlord sent off a bond refund form and still no refund. Their promise is that within 15 working days it will be done. As of yesterday those 15 working days are up.

When I tried to call them earlier in the week, they said we are busy email us. When I email them, I get an automated response that I must wait 15 working days. They haven’t even responded as to whether or not my form has been filed.

I know we have this Covid 19 thing, but they did make a promise of 15 working days and they haven’t kept it. Until now, within three days I’ve always got my bond refund.

So if they aren’t answering their phones or email, maybe I’ll never get my money back.
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March 5, 2021 8:25am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Ask your local MP to complain for you.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:42am
  - Meatloaf
    
    MMild (9:42 AM), I have now done all of that. Contacted Megan Woods, my local MP, sent a blind copy to David Seymour and another National MP as maybe that would achieve something.
    
    No response from anyone.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:33pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING….

Have ‘Young Labour’ learned nothing from their last Summer Camp?

https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1367540367202123780
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March 5, 2021 8:26am
- burt
  
  I have no idea what they have learned, but the rest of us have learned that if you are a Labour Party member you’ll almost certainly get the charges dropped and get permanent name suppression.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:28am
igm

This is going to end in disaster:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300244323/porirua-iwi-takes-major-stake-in-whitby-retirement-village
People should be protected against this disgusting abuse of privilege using taxpayers’ money in the guise of treaty settlements.
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March 5, 2021 8:29am
- mikenmildagain
  
  What’s wrong with an iwi investing their money in a retirement village?
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:40am
  - burt
    
    Retirement villages are a colonial construct, the elderly should be with their family.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:42am
  - Yabster
    
    hmm doesn’t that make them landlords and charging a form of rent – (that’s a very bad thing according to the Govt and the woke left)- very capitalist and a colonial concept- surely the land will be made communal and if you can force another off that land you can occupy it….
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:22am
- RRM
  
  That’s strange, a guy down the pub told me Iwi usually piss their treaty settlements away on corporate boxes at Eden Park and payola for the big wigs.
  
  And now it turns out they are actually investing in property and growth industries!?! Astonishing. It shouldn’t be allowed…
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:19am
- Kiwi Dave
  
  I’ve read the news story twice and am a bit puzzled why you think this is a disgusting abuse of privilege. Like other tribes, they are investing settlement money in an NZ business. I guess they will use their partner’s experience to learn, expand and perhaps provide employment opportunities and training for their youth.
  
  I’m as willing as the next person to object to rent-seeking brown elites, specious claims of co-governance partnership, dubious tax breaks for iwi-owned businesses, but don’t see the specific problem here.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:27am
- doublehappy
  
  Would they pay tax on income, or treated as a charity? I’m just asking, as I don’t know the answer.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:29am
- Bea Rossini
  
  Enlighten us IGA – how is this going to end in disaster?
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:18pm
  - Okahu
    
    Perhaps IGA is contemplating his next invoice beginning with a friendly kia ora IGA, in accordance with the new investor’s style? If you look at the world a certain way that might rate as a disaster!
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:53pm
Paulus

Why was it of the the about of 9,000 cars which left Auckland going South the other night before level lockdown the Tamakis’ have been solely targeted by the so called media ?
I was listening to RNZ last evening and I listened, until I turned off, to an interview by somebody called Liza Owen, with Brian Tamaki.
Whilst I have no affection for him or his following I do not believe that anybody on radio should be treated to such vitriol and abuse by this presumably squeaky voiced young lady.
Whilst she is probably a junior part of the so called media feministas I assume she is trying to get on the main eight or so list of the wonders of the media.
I do not believe in all my years, and that is many, that I have been so disgusted to such venom.
Tamaki did not appear to return your spleen venting.
Liza – you should listen to your interview and be ashamed.
If that is what $105,000,000 gives it is a disgrace.
I believe that Ardern does not like the Tamakis’ likewise.
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March 5, 2021 8:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It was a shocker of an interview.. on Checkpoint.
  Her repetitious haranguing of him was unprofessional and embarrassing to listen to.
  (I’ve usually been impressed with Lisa Owen’s interviews)
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018786152/brian-tamaki-responds-to-criticism-after-leaving-auckland-on-eve-of-lockdown
  
  Lisa Owen did not address Tamaki’s query of why was he being singled out.
  
  I note that the written account of the interview reads quite mildly…
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:04am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    What a smarmy smug sanctimono=ious piece of work that Lisa Owen is. Tamaki held his ground well and showed her up for the intellectual lightweight she is.
    
    All she did was bang on about the PM asking people to go into Level 3 and why didn’t he stay home and do gardening for 7 days, and wouldn’t respond to his repeated questions as to why he was being singled out and what rules or laws had he broken.
    
    I might send him $10 just to spite the sour-faced cow.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:50pm
- nathie
  
  It’s ‘funny’ isn’t it – you can have ‘Red Radio’ leftie hosts screaming at people they don’t agree with (Lisa Owen, Kim Hill, Susie Ferguson etc) … but when you have a non-leftie such as Sean Plunket doing something similar to the chap in charge of the illegal Iwi roadblocks last year, he gets censured (then cancelled), called a ‘racist’ by the leftie/media and his media organisation fined several thousand dollars.
  
  I heard the Sean Plunket interview last year, Plunket was clearly exasperated that the guy, whom had absolutely zero authority to enact roadblocks and could not articulate one reasonable legal justification to back up his illegal actions, and so did a ‘Red Radio’ and shrieked at the interviewee in frustration and gets slammed by a gutless BSA (Broadcasting Standards Authority).
  
  I say gutless because on their website you can read their rulings on all their other complaints and 99.9% of the time the BSA backs the broadcaster, even when in my opinion other complainants have a fair point (but not this one time it seems)!
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:05am
- I remember when
  
  Perhaps the Government/MOH should have said the border will be closing at midnight,
  Please ensure you do not leave before then.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The media did not target Jaspinda either. Air Force One left Whenuapai after the phone alert, so did another plane. Ministers and MPs scarpering?
  Apparently first fish took off with his boat as well
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Add, the pink haired one had the cheek to give Auckland a lecture about it – piss off socialist
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:29am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Wow, RNZAF planes leaving an airbase. Seems sinister…
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Even more sinister than plane to Samoa and a Navy Frigate to Tokelau
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:36pm
      - Bea Rossini
        
        “Apparently”. What bullshit Otto. You don’t have the connections to be “in the know”. I know – let’s make shit up.
        
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        March 5, 2021 2:16pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Bea Rossini.
        You have no idea of my Connections, unless you are in the ‘club’
        
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        March 5, 2021 4:46pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        https://www.flightradar24.com/47,8/8
        
        that should tell you.
        
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        March 5, 2021 5:21pm
      - Bea Rossini
        
        Gayford’s boat on flightradar24? Seriously – you haven’t got a clue about his whereabouts but making shit up just fits your envy narrative.
        
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        March 5, 2021 7:43pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Bea Rossini is a troll.
        Leave it alone
        
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        March 6, 2021 8:09am
  - Ruahine
    
    Yes. I noticed Airforce One took off just after SIA passed over Whenuapai. Looks as if it called into Ohakea. Now on a course for Wellington. Presumably.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:21am
    - Nickc2
      
      Ok Ruahine, what’s SIA?
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:31pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Singapore Airlines
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:37pm
      - Master Mariner
        
        Singapore airlines
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:38pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Tks
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:44pm
  - RRM
    
    30cm tsunami waves are incoming. Time to fire up the doomsday plane and get the PM to safety!
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:05pm
- kowtow
  
  Tamaki should play the race card .
  
  Really he should . Here’s our woke media , across all arms , singling them out for particular vitriol .
  
  A media which has lost its shit over any and all perceived slights to folk based on race and we have a media pitch fork lynch mob baying for blood , looking for a scalp.
  
  but of course as far as the media pardy are concerned rich , christian jesus freaks are fair game. It’s safe to attack them in a way attacks would not be done on other “faiths”
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:34am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    It’s a distraction. Protecting and deflecting for Jacinda takes priority over the default position of protecting brown people. And moreover, Tamaki’s a Christian, the lowest of the low.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:56pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Why is are they being targeted?
  
  Possibly because they are church leaders and (bizarrely) influence tens of thousands of followers.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:26pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  I also have no affection for Brian Tamaki and his ministry, and no affection for any religion as KBers may know.
  
  One thing I will say – you never read about any of Tamaki’s adherents beating their wives or kids, or getting into trouble with alcohol or drugs, or crime in general. I’m quite sure that if there were any, the media would be all over it like a cheap suit.
  
  If they are happy giving him the money they do (like all churches, they rely on donations and do very well out of them) and feel it’s helping them in their lives, then who the hell is Lisa Owen, or any of us for that matter, to question what consenting adults choose to do within the law?
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:36pm
- RightFirstTime
  
  Referring to Lisa Owen as a “young lady” is being extremely generous – on both counts.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:55pm
kowtow

The Elites ,who benefit so much from their established order don’t like opposition . They use any and all means to do down the rise of those who question this order.

That a democracy such as Germany will do this , with so little mention in the MSM is very worrying.

Note the media descrptor of the AfD as “far right”, more fake news.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-places-entire-far-right-afd-under-surveillance-reports/a-56757489
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March 5, 2021 8:44am
- Adroit
  
  Kowtow: See the banning of the ‘far-right’ Génération Identitaire by the Jacobin French Government as further evidence. Their crime? Being opposed to the dilution of French Culture, and the replacement of the French people by immigrants.
  
  http://www.france24.com/en/france/20210303-france-bans-far-right-anti-migrant-group-generation-identity
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:06am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Just because you don’t like the label of ‘far right’ doesn’t mean that it does not fit.
  From Wikipedia:
  
  The AfD was founded by Bernd Lucke, Alexander Gauland, and former members of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) to oppose the policies of the eurozone. The party presented itself as a moderately eurosceptic and centre-right conservative movement in its early years. It subsequently expanded its policies under successive leadership to include opposition to mass immigration, Islam, the European Union, and has gradually moved to the far-right since its founding. Presently, the AfD is often described as a German nationalist, national-conservative, and Eurosceptic party. Since 2017, the AfD has been increasingly open to working with far-right extremist groups such as Pegida. Factions of the AfD have racist, Islamophobic, anti-Semitic,and xenophobic tendencies with links to neo-Nazism and the Identitarian movement. Party leaders have denied accusations of racism.
  
  No doubt the AfD, and their supporters, don’t like the label, any more than members of our social democratic labour party like being labelled ‘communists’, which seems to happen a lot on this blog.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:39am
  - Matt Long
    
    Wikipedia, then it must be true.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:21am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    social democratic labour party ???
    Neo communist trolls in disguise.
    ~~Aoteraoa~~ New Tyranny New Zealand
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:50pm
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Can we swap the National Party for the AfD, please? They seem refreshingly and muscularly right wing. I guess if you are a leftist, though, they would sound antithetical to your own politics. That’s a good sign.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:00pm
  - rouppe
    
    I favour “Marxist” or “neo-fascist” for your social democratic labour party…
    
    Witness their support for denouncing those that don’t agree with “the plan” – reporting them to an official.
    
    Witness their tacit approval of de- platforming those with a different viewpoint.
    
    Witness the complete lack of public calls to stop the pile on from our Prime Minister of Kindness.
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:32pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  The Germans had a greater skepticism of CCTV and mass government surveillance of its own citizen – at least in the late 20th century – because of bad memories of toothbrush moustaches and later German Democratic Republic, for the east siders in particular.
  Looks like there is some tolerance returning.
  Just as long as they are watching Extincton rebellion, Antifa and other direct-action types on the other side of the spectrum with their own bad apples, because Euro-sceptic or concerns about Islamism is hardly a bad thing IMO.
  The risks from home-grown Jihadis and new-citizens from Islamic nations probably mean the former reluctance to spy on political groups or citizens internally would have been dropped long ago by the authorities.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:32am
hullkiwi

Who needs anti-vaxxers to spread the line that the Covid vaccines are a big Pharma con job, when the British and the BBC do it for you?

MrsHK couldn’t sleep last night, so is watching the BBC World news at 3.00am and gets this little gem……

British authorities are very concerned that the 80plus age group are breaking the UK lockdown rules. The report showed so 80plus old age pensioners getting on an Arriva bus, going out and enjoying themselves. This group of pensioners had all been vaccinated with the Astra Zenica vaccine. But shock horror, the authorities are concerned, why?

Because they are in a Covid vulnerable age group. But hang on a minute there, they have been vaccinated, which we are told is 94% effective, or is it?

Either the vaccines are effective, or they aren’t, which is it?
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March 5, 2021 8:46am
- virtualmark
  
  The vaccines are effective. Not one of the 70,000+ people in the Phase III trials of the 5 major vaccines was hospitalised for Covid, let alone died.
  
  If you would like a good read on this try https://zeynep.substack.com/p/why-you-should-take-any-vaccine
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:59am
- cmm
  
  The oldies realise that there’s more to life than “being safe”.
  
  If you’re over 80 then your timer is ticking bloody loudly and if you wait too long to do things – just to “be safe”, you’re actually throwing your life away.
  
  You can:
  A) Go about your normal life and make the most of your last few useful years with a less than 10% chance of being stuck down slightly early, ie. a 90% chance of just having a good time.
  B) Hide away and do nothing with an equal chance of getting struck down (because hiding in a rest home doesn’t help), ie a 0% chance of having a good time.
  
  This whole lockdown thing is not a good deal for anyone – least of all the vulnerable oldies it is supposed to protect.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:05am
  - hullkiwi
    
    I agree.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:29am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    That is the best contribution to this blog this month.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:45am
    - SB2
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      It’s the best piece of rubbish thus far this month.
      
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      March 5, 2021 11:05am
      - Yabster
        
        nah that would be any of your posts…
        
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        March 5, 2021 11:27am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        Lock yourself up if you think ‘live life’ is rubbish.
        Do us a favour and unplug your device at the same time.
        Then we don’t have to waste time skimming your odious contributions.
        What a pitiful, nasty, piece of work you are.
        
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        March 5, 2021 11:35am
      - cmm
        
        Adding value as always eh Stephie?
        
        Have you ever asked yourself what the point is of actually being born? I really don’t know how you can look in the mirror.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:43pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Good. It directly refutes Ardern’s control.
        
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        March 5, 2021 12:52pm
- MCos
  
  Speaking of Astra Zeneca.
  How come the UK can get that particular vaccine, but the EU has blocked if from export to Australia?
  
  https://click.e.heraldsun.com.au/?qs=8decf4f89c5b39e7b6d25f89fe710eb4e29fcfb1fdd92e3e9e8de304e88a72ff3899bf369acdd2226762f9821edb20abebde18a0d7092375
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:03am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    I see where Jamaica has developed its own vaccine.
    
    Rasta Zeneca.
    
    😀
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:50am
  - Happy1
    
    The Italians want to increase its availability to themselves. That’s why they are preventing it’s export.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:04pm
  - Pharmachick
    
    UK has its own manufacturing facility. EU has already been screaming at them to share more with Europe (hows that hardline Brexit working out for Brussels hmmm).
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:46pm
  - virtualmark
    
    It’s called “sovereign risk”. The risk that the government of another sovereign country will act like a prick. Countries aren’t really legally bound to contractual commitments – there’s no police force or judiciary with enough jurisdiction and so honouring their commitments is largely about preserving their reputations and mana. Clearly the Italians don’t value their reputation and mana all that highly.
    
    The response to sovereign risk is largely being able to inflict economic or military pain on the prick government. Very little then that Australia can do.
    
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    March 5, 2021 4:12pm
- Happy1
  
  The vaccine doesn’t stop people getting the disease but because your immune system is primed vaccinated people cope well. As I understand it is unclear whether a vaccinated person can infect others but it is assumed that they can. A vaccinated person would still have to quarantine upon entering N.Z.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:15pm
  - cmm
    
    THis is not my area of expertise, but this is my understanding:
    
    If the vaccine is working properly then it should also stop you being a carrier too.
    
    That’s the whole point of this “herd immunity” idea. Once enough people are vaccinated, the virus cannot be transferred effectively so it grinds to a halt (unless the virus can get some wiggle room by mutating sufficiently that the antibodies are ineffective).
    
    Viruses are right on the edge of “life”. Unlike bacteria, they do not have a cell structure and cannot breed by themselves.
    
    The only way they can replicate is to invade and co-opt a cell and reprogram the cell to make many copies of the virus. The tens of thousands to a million new viruses then break out of the cell and infect more cells.
    
    Antibodies break that cycle. That is what an effective vaccine should do.
    
    To be an effective carrier, your body needs to be a place where viruses can replicate.
    
    If you’re vaccinated (with an effective vaccine), then you should not be a carrier.
    
    If vaccine did not stop you from being a carrier, then there would be no herd immunity either.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:59pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Vaccination reduces infectiveness by around 90% reportedly.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:31pm
Yvette

What level of vaccination is required – and in terms of the Treaty of Waiting, legal – before the borders can be “open”?

So at the moment any one who is vaccinated will seemingly be protected. but may still transfer the virus physically on to others.
And those who refuse the vaccination remain as exposed to death, depending on their age and underlying level of health.

This seems to imply that there is no level of vaccination that protects the country as a whole – It appears to offer protection only to the individual who has received a vaccination.

reference –
Once vaccinated, will I still need to be tested?
Yes. The data is clear that the vaccines protect individuals from the effects of the virus, however it is still too early for researchers to determine whether a vaccinated person could still transmit the virus to someone else. While this remains unclear, we need to assume there is still a risk of transmission. This means the mandatory testing of our border and MIQ workforce needs to continue.
https://covid19.govt.nz/assets/resources/Vaccine-resources/COVID-19-vaccine-FAQs-v2.pdf

So a question is : What level of communication and vaccination needs to occur before the borders can be opened.
Obviously first, everyone has to be offered the vaccination, but after that : what numbers of people refusing the vaccination, as Hannah Tamaki says will be her case, will be acceptable to say the population has made their individual choices, now these may be reflected in the chances they have decided for themselves, as borders are opened.
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March 5, 2021 8:46am
- KevO'Brien
  
  How can a non-fully tested “vaccine” be lawfully enforced? We are not lab rats.
  It may be useful, particularly to those making it.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:55pm
nathie

After going to ground and missing in action since Monday (and having Robbo, then Hipkins, then Henare cover for her in the media each day), what’s the bet the Labour Party spinners roll out Jacinda Ardern this morning to ‘reassure’ Kiwi’s that everything is under control earthquake planning wise (and swaps stories with the wimpy press gallery about their collective experiences at 2.27am this morning so they don’t press her to hardly on the KFC worker she ‘defamed’)?!
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March 5, 2021 8:47am
- hullkiwi
  
  They didn’t they started with Kiri Allen in a Civil Defence fleece from the Beehive theatregoers this morning.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:02am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Made my wife laugh at her severe inability as an MP.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:56pm
    - Okahu
      
      Which electorate does your wife represent, or is he/she list?
      
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      March 5, 2021 7:30pm
      - Mike
        
        East Coast
        
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        March 5, 2021 7:39pm
Tauhei Notts

My wife had a fall on sloping ground and hurt her chest. She had been taking pain killers and commented that she thought the pain killers were making her constipated.
I said tune the radio to RNZ National. If that doesn’t give you the shits then serious medical help will be needed.
This morning she is all smiles.
“That RNZ National did more good than any laxative ever could.”
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March 5, 2021 8:50am
Jack5

More subsidies coming for taxpayers to carry.

A film studio is being built on the outskirts of Wanaka, complete with a replica of part of New York’s Central Park, plus a film school, production facilities, and a theatre.

Silverlight Studios bought a farm for the project, which will take up about half its area.
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March 5, 2021 8:54am
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…..

Chinah has now made Covid ‘Anal Swabbing’ MANDATORY for all foreign arrivals.
Alternatively, travelers can provide a ‘poo sample’ at the airport instead.

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1367414898251153409
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March 5, 2021 9:05am
- Saks
  
  More effective than closing the border
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:20am
- Littletramp
  
  China is just catching up.
  Tourists in NZ have been leaving their “poo samples” at freedom camp sites for years now.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:24am
Happychappy

I see the media are putting up more fluff columns from the overseas magazines to hide Jacinda Arderns lies and bulling of a 21 year old female that she had made a target of over isolation. Take the air out the Prime Ministers mischievous conduct and let the womens magazines show what a hard job she has.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/jacinda-ardern-opens-up-on-self-care-motherhood-in-new-magazine-interview.html
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March 5, 2021 9:09am
Maggy Wassilieff

There have now been 3 large earthquakes in the last 6 hours….
Might be time to check my emergency supplies.
(Bet the hubby has raided the spare batteries!)
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March 5, 2021 9:15am
- nathie
  
  Apparently the Labour Party will start issuing free radios to every citizen, for such times of emergency, only catch is there is only one channel available, that from the Beehive theatrette’s ‘podium of truth’, broadcasting 24/7 ‘propaganda’ (as Jacinda put it the other day)!
  
  Your hubby might want to raid those (radio) batteries instead next time, as a public service of course!
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:22am
- JibberJabber
  
  Geonet has put out a tsunami alert @ 9.10
  https://www.geonet.org.nz/response/3Uto8p5X0eNhbqfoNXyVss
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Liquor cabinet is full, so all OK
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:31am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Can be traded for food, guns and ammunition if things get serious.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:46am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Well Mike, liquor will not fix anyone’s problems, but neither will milk
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:36am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        “Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.”
        – Homer J Simpson
        
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        March 5, 2021 10:53am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Uptick Mike. Homer knows stuff for sure
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:39pm
    - virtualmark
      
      So liquor is better than gold in an emergency …
      
      Probably still ranks behind tinned food though.
      
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      March 5, 2021 4:20pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Yes, thought I’d check our ‘Emergency Kit’ this morning.
  Batteries have all leaked, the maglite and tranny are both stuffed, even the tins of Shitake Mushrooms have a 2014 UB date.
  
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  March 5, 2021 9:36am
  - TWEEDSE
    
    I have to admit I don’t have a tranny in my emergency kit. I felt that was a bit unkind…
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:48am
    - oldfella
      
      You’ve gotta learn to be more inclusive, Tweedse.
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:08pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Maybe it is in the wardrobe
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:40pm
Fuzzysnuggleduck

Yesterday I posted a (declared as Hearsay) statement that a positive Covid case existed in Hamilton.

There were things that didn’t make sense, as noted, such as the lack of 1pm announcement, and (undisclosed in my original post) that is was a local MP preparing communications in event of a lock down.
I passed that on in good faith, as did the person who earnestly told me.
Now, the more I thought about it the more dubious it sounded. Poor listening skills were always an option (as I added as a disclaimer).
Now the MP was said to have passed ‘in confidence’ this information, that there was a community case from Six60.
Apologies to the public for this, from me.

Here are the ‘facts’ as I had them, and if it get blabbermouth in hot water for blabbing supposed ‘in confidence’ information – good job.

-The conversation was part of video taping of Dr Gaurav Sharma, doing multiple messages to ethnic groups for lockdown.
He was doing a message solely for Indians since he can speak Hindi and Punjabi. This need for tailored comms appears to be recognition of shortcomings due to the recent miscommunication with the KFC worker.

Now, it seems possible the MP has been doing this (although of course I would think the MoH could find someone other than an MP, it does mean a coup for Labour if an MP talks to their community).
I suspect that doing this “in case of” was misheard as “because of” potential lockdown.
The Six60 part could be pure invention by Blabbermouth.
Maybe even the ‘I filmed Dr Sharma’ is BS too, but based on my contact it is coming from people in that industry.
I have to wonder if a spike yesterday in people wanting tests in Hamilton might be traced back to this one chain of transmission of misinformation.

In the interests of justice, I have asked my contact to punch Blabbermouth in the dick.

I have been assured he will get a jab in in the ribs.
This is the best I can do.
More fool me, passing down information indirectly from a fool. Apologies all.
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March 5, 2021 9:18am
- fernglas
  
  Hearsay is the male equivalent of gossip.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:34am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I have heard people say that.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:32pm
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    Guilty.
    Meaning here though, in the more legal sense, that I was not directly a witness to what I was passing on. i.e; conversation 2nd hand.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:21pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  “A lie is half-way around the world before the truth has put its pants on.” Sir Winston Churchill.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:28pm
JibberJabber

Unborn Babies Disguise Selves As Death Row Inmates So Liberals Will Defend Their Right To Live
https://babylonbee.com/news/unborn-babies-disguise-selves-as-death-row-inmates-so-liberals-will-defend-their-right-to-live
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March 5, 2021 9:21am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Or how about: “Children disguise themselves as foetuses so conservatives will defend their right to health and education”?
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:51am
  - doublehappy
    
    To use this subject as an attack, using your rabid leftist mind is very low, even for you.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:53am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      You must be kidding. Just turning the original joke (which I presume you did not find offensive) around.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:32pm
    - Bea Rossini
      
      Don’t get irony do you?
      
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      March 5, 2021 2:43pm
Jack5

Labour’s neglect at addresssing NZ’s poor productivity growth – and thus New Zealand’s economic future: Michael Reddell discusses.

https://croakingcassandra.com/2021/03/04/no-idea-apparently-probably-not-much-interest/
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March 5, 2021 9:27am
- mikenmildagain
  
  For at least forty years, there has been a comfortable consensus from our two main political parties that declining relative productivity, economic growth and standards of living do not really matter.
  So long as their house values keep going up, a lot of people seem to buy into an illusion of prosperity.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:49am
  - Jack5
    
    ✔️Milky, you are right.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:25am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It takes a rabid socialist to misstate the truth so.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:00pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Sadly yes.
    
    Our economy is captive to our housing market.
    
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    March 5, 2021 4:20pm
Rusty

Covid lockdowns and water restrictions in Auckland and maybe the odd Tsunami warning coming our way.

Do we stay in our homes during a natural disaster or leave and break lockdown rules?

Bet you Jacinda and her govt never thought about that.
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March 5, 2021 9:37am
- Bea Rossini
  
  Apparently they did – how about that then?
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:40pm
- virtualmark
  
  Just wait till the plagues of locusts and frogs arrive …
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:21pm
Cinematic

I’m waiting for an apology from the regime for needlessly stripping my business of revenue over the last week.

Will the regime revisit the assumptions made about this vicious new variant? It KILLS remember?
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March 5, 2021 9:42am
- SB2
  
  “I’m waiting for an apology from the regime..”
  
  I’d say you won’t get one but Judith and David will each courier you a complementary theatrical tears kit!
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:00am
  - Cinematic
    
    Why won’t I get an apology. Along with thousands of other self employed Aucklanders?
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:28am
  - Yabster
    
    what a clown- you obviously have never run a small business in your life- its bloody difficult.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:40am
fernglas

So here we are on the coast, in the evacuation zone, and ready to go if it becomes necessary. But my theory is that these earthquakes are a result of a conspiracy between Bill Gates and the CCCP. If it hits, it won’t be any worse than the ordinary seasonal high tides. All those corpses bobbing in the waves would have died anyway and there will be no distinction made between those who died because of the tsunami and those who died of other causes at the time they were in the water. The Government is rolling out lifejackets, albeit it slowly, and apparently they are going to low lying Pacific Islands first because they need them more. However, we were apparently first in the queue anyway.
There will be a “presser” at 4pm so the Government can tell us whether we can return to our homes
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March 5, 2021 9:53am
- Ruahine
  
  All of you keep out of the water. You will get wet and then get Covid. Covid kills we are told by people on the telly.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:24am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Panic, panic, panic. Alaskan friends just asked me if Auckland is flooded yet, and are we safe.
Socialist control freaks are going full retard
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March 5, 2021 9:54am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I didn’t know Alaska was noted for its socialist control freaks.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:04am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Unfortunately they have a RINO up there, Lisa Murkowski, a right jerkoff
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:40am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Popular enough to win as a write-in candidate, albeit only against a Tea Party nutcase.
      
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      March 5, 2021 10:45am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    @Steve Otto: from now on, please only post things that milky knows about. Confuses the heck out of him when you post on a topic with which he is not familiar.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:25pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Sorry, must make allowances for special people
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:42pm
- MCos
  
  Who, exactly, are the the socialist control freaks in that exchange?
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:05am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Waiting for play schoolTV1 to tell me. Classified atm
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:41am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  It’s become a competition now. Waves 1 to 3 meters
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:06am
  - alloytoo
    
    Surf’s up.
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:14am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Update, 1 to 5 meters now. Who can beat that?
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:16am
    - BeeJay
      
      US Tsunami Warning Centre in Hawaii showing wave threats to New Zealand @ .3m to 1 meter
      The only country predicted with higher wave levels is Vanuatu @ 1 meter to 3 meters.
      Latest Notification timed at 11:26:15 am NZ time.
      Where do the NZ scaremongers get their data from?
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:37pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Data comes from play school TV1 sycophants
        
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        March 5, 2021 1:43pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  My niece rang from Japan and asked if we were all okay in Auckland.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:07am
- doggone7
  
  And non-socialist freaks who don’t like masks or lockdowns or social distancing will carry on as normal and ignore the over-reaction tsunami warnings.
  They also have no insurance policies too of course. ‘Worst case scenarios’ aren’t for them.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:20am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They got to you as well? Sad
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:43am
  - emmess
    
    It is the boy who cried wolf.
    If the governments keep claiming everything is a massive crisis. Then when one a real crisis comes along like this Tsunami, people will be so cynical they will ignore the warnings. Possibly intentionally but more likely unintentionally. Oh shit, not another Covid alarm on my phone. Fuck off’
    
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    March 5, 2021 10:47am
- rockape
  
  Alaska had the highest tsunami in recent years. 1740 ft high recorded. That would cure the traffic in Auckland.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:42am
Fletch

The Democrats have passed the HR1 act in the House which pretty much federalizes US elections, taking power away from States and removing just about any meaningful protection when it comes to voting.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/03/democrat-led-house-passes-h-r-1-aimed-to-federalize-u-s-elections/
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March 5, 2021 10:06am
- Inandout
  
  Fletch, this is what our liberals wanted, a ‘democratic’ election system. At this rate Nancy & Chuck will be at the trough for years.
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:11am
- doublehappy
  
  I hope the Senate can Filibuster this until the next Democratic senator passes on. Otherwise, it will be: “by 2030 you will own nothing and you will be happy”.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:10pm
- virtualmark
  
  No, not true. But you can always rely on Breitbart and the Fox Cinematic Universe to scare their audience with false bogey men.
  
  HR1 sets minimum requirements that states must (at least) observe for election behaviour. States are free to arrive at their own choices and implementations, but must at least meet the federal minimums. That is the philosophy behind most federal laws.
  
  Note too that the minimum standards in HR1 are still less rigorous than the electoral standards we have here for our national elections. Do you think the way that we run our general elections is onerous, or unreasonable, or improper???
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:25pm
  - doublehappy
    
    rubbish
    
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    March 6, 2021 12:07am
  - Nickc2
    
    Double rubbish!
    
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    March 6, 2021 8:11am
Fletch

Alabama Senate votes to make hormone therapy for trans youth a felony.

Under a new law, transgender youth in Alabama could not be treated with puberty-blockers, hormone therapy or surgery. The state Senate voted to make the treatment a felony on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alabama-senate-votes-to-make-hormone-therapy-for-trans-youth-a-felony/ar-BB1ecEvL
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March 5, 2021 10:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Dad, can I have a smoke?
  No, you’re 5.
  Can I have a beer?
  No, you’re 5.
  Can I have some hormones to make me a girl?
  Sure, you’re old enough to make up your own mind.
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:46am
  - Swifty
    
    That’s a very good point.
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:09am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “Can I have some hormones to make me a girl?”
    
    “You brave ~~boy~~ girl! Sure, you’re old enough to make up your own mind, and mummy’s so proud of you for having the courage to be who you were truly meant to be!”
    
    I think that’s about it?
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:21pm
    - Nickc2
      
      So true! Who do you hold responsible for this stuff?
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:37pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        The mother, in every case.
        
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        March 5, 2021 7:06pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      The poor kids have this pushed on them by fucked up parents
      
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      March 5, 2021 1:53pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        …and teachers.
        
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        March 5, 2021 9:03pm
      - artemisia
        
        Maybe parents if young children. But don’t forget the internet. One teen my family is unemployed, unemployable, online all day and night and now transitioning.
        
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        March 6, 2021 9:28am
- SB2
  
  Is teaching Darwinian evolution a felony?
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:52am
  - Ruahine
    
    Whilst not truly Darwinian, the statement, “survival of the fittest” certainly is a thought crime. It was made by a ‘white male’.
    
    Herbert Spencer
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:19am
  - Fuzzysnuggleduck
    
    {this} ≠ {that}
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:02pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    No, it’s science.
    
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    March 5, 2021 12:27pm
    - doublehappy
      
      Unfortunately, that has no bearing on the question.
      
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      March 5, 2021 12:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

‘If we are not careful, our colleges will produce close-minded, unscientific, illogical propagandists.’

MLK 1964
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March 5, 2021 10:13am
Maggie Pie

Made me LMAO 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1367562330515660801
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March 5, 2021 10:14am
- doublehappy
  
  Those facial features are a lot like an ex-governor of California.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:18pm
alloytoo

It it just me, but since 2017 has the performance of all state services just been adrift?
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March 5, 2021 10:25am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Not just you
  
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  March 5, 2021 10:47am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Not just since 2017
    
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    March 5, 2021 11:07am
Maggie Pie

Just took a wander up to the letterbox.
No sign of panic on the Avenue.
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March 5, 2021 10:46am
- dave_c_
  
  “Park Avenue” ??
  
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  March 5, 2021 11:21am
Inandout

And Glutube continue their censorship. Isn’t post Trump US such a wonderful and open society?
https://trends.gab.com/trend-feed/604158605db3705aa0aba0b8
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March 5, 2021 11:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I guess they can’t handle Trump saying he would beat the Democrats a 3rd time
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:55pm
Jack5

?No word yet on a request for Otago Polytechnic fly the Maori flag permanently.

The Otago Daily Times reported earlier that the polytechnic board’s Maori advisory committee was to discuss the request yesterday.

The delay in a press release suggests the full board will consider in detail the request by the polytechnic’s student association leader, Ezra Tamati, that the Maori flag to be flown permanently at the polytechnic.

The Christchurch polytechnic has already decided to do this.

The Otago Polytechnic’s site in Forth Street, Dunedin, has two flagstaffs – flag poles. If the Maori flag is to be flown permanently, the full board will need to decide whether the New Zealand flag will also be flown permanently.

Protocol dictates where both flags are flown the New Zealand flag will be flown on the left flagstaff (from an incoming observer’s viewpoint), and the Maori flag on the other flagstaff. The Maori flag must not be higher than the NZ flag.

If both are flown on one flagstaff, the NZ flag must be above the Maori flag.

The Maori flag was created to be flown during annual Waitangi Day activities.

The Ministry of Culture and Heritage site says of the Maori flag:

While it does not carry official status it is a symbol of this land that can complement the New Zealand flag. Flying the two flags together on days of national significance such as Waitangi Day symbolises and enhances the Crown-Maori relationship.

We have still rising pressure for the use of Maori language instead of English to the point that Maori may now aim to replace English as the national language.

Then we have the imminent indoctrination of our school children with radical, Maori-slanted history.

Activists’ push more display of the Maori flag raises the question of whether their real goal is to replace the national flag.
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March 5, 2021 11:14am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Please continue to keep us updated.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:29pm
  - Jack5
    
    Milky clear code for “flag it away”.
    
    ?? Nope!
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:00pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Separate flag, separate justice system, separate health system, separate Council wards, separate Parliamentary seats, my goodness the maoris seem to be very keen on separatism.
  
  Apart(heid) from anything else, this appears to negate the statements made at the time of the signing of The Treaty of Waitangi that “We are now one people”.
  
  This country (New Zealand) has never been more divided in my lifetime.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:14pm
  - Jack5
    
    Yes, Loddenthinks, it makes nonsense of Jacindarella’s “team of five million”.
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:38pm
  - GJM
    
    Except for separate tax systems. Not like they want to pay for their stuff themselves, or at all.
    “What is yours is mine and what is mine is mine” is a long standing Maori tradition before 1840, and has its followers today.
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:52pm
Master Mariner

Interesting, I cant even get a MIQ voucher as delayed due to being a standby evacuation vessel in Myanmar for foreign nationals ashore ,

Incidently we are the last foreign vessel transiting Yangon River and have another Port call next week

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/covid-19-response-minister-chris-hipkins-reassures-kiwis-in-myanmar-amid-violent-protests.html

You can see where my frustration comes from. After 3 months and 2 OIA requests I have finally recieved a message from Ombudman that they are looking into my complaints.
The next few days will be telling in Myanmar. Make or break and sadly a potential for more lives lost than yesterday .
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March 5, 2021 11:23am
- kevn
  
  @MM… You must be a robust character putting up with all the smoke n mirrors responses.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:45pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Starting to wear a bit thin Kevn.
    Absolutely correct.
    Focus one day at a time.
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:27pm
I remember when

The Xiong’an New Area near Beijing is experimenting with wetland and forest development to reduce urban heat islands.
The urban heat island seems to be getting a lot more attention lately.
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March 5, 2021 11:25am
- doublehappy
  
  The way Auckland is putting up to 10 homes where 1 used to be, we could become the world’s largest heat island. Actually, the sea will prevent it, but it is still ruining what was once a beautiful city.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:06pm
Ehlana

I am just receiving an Emergency Alert – Civil Defence Tsunami Warning – due to the 8.0M earthquake near Kermadec Islands.

Which was about 3 hours ago. I didn’t feel it, but my cat became unsettled.

She is currently curled up licking her front paws, so I think I’m safe.
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March 5, 2021 11:37am
- Master Mariner
  
  Without going into too much depth,
  
  I’d be guessing you would of had 20-30 minutes after quake for Tsunami to arrive.
  
  What ever happened to klaxons and sirens.
  
  The speed they travel is phenominal.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:28pm
  - Okahu
    
    I thought sirens just hung around the rocks ‘asingin’ and allurin’. (A Master Mariner has gotta know that!)
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:01pm
Ruahine

Have just received my tsunami warning on the phone. However unfortunately it is unclear as to when it is going to arrive. I was wanting to go down to the beach and watch it come ashore and maybe take some selfies.
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March 5, 2021 11:42am
cas

Are the people testing positive in MIQ faking their negative Covid test before boarding the plane?
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March 5, 2021 12:13pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Easy enough to buy what ever result you want.
  
  just costs a little more. Thats all.
  
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  March 5, 2021 12:31pm
  - burt
    
    That’s proven by there being almost zero flu deaths this year.
    
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    March 5, 2021 1:25pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Covid cured the flu – and pneumonia, bronchitis, emphysema. Certain strains being developed to attack cancer, coming to a place near you soon //
      
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      March 5, 2021 2:01pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

First the Chch massacre, then White Is, then COVID & now earthquakes.

I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again: that Jacinda is a regular Typhoid Mary.

The sooner she goes, the safer the rest of us will be.
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March 5, 2021 12:16pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Don’t worry, the earthquakes and the potential tsunamis didn’t affect NZ, they affected the fictional land of Aoteoarora (according to Kiri Allan).
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:32pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    ~~Aoteoarora~~ New Tyranny (Niu Tireni).
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:04pm
mikenmildagain

Support growing for Welsh independence:
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-03-04/poll-reveals-highest-support-for-welsh-independence-ever-recorded
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March 5, 2021 12:17pm
- Jack5
  
  Both France and Spain have said they would block Scotland from joining the EU. They fear the spread of separatism.
  
  No chance then of Wales joining the EU, and without it Wales wouldn’t be economically viable.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:05pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Once-United-Kingdom then?
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:02pm
- James Stephenson
  
  Two points:
  
  1) Last I saw, support for English independence was at about 49% and if you limited it to Labour and Conservative voters, there was a majority in favour.
  
  2) Anyone Welsh or Scottish who wants “independence” and then to join the EU, doesn’t know what that word means.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:32pm
Maggie Pie

Just heard Barry Soper saying “….he can’t see any reason why Auckland wont go back to level 2 at midnite tonite”

I could tell from his body language he definitely knows something.
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March 5, 2021 12:38pm
- hullkiwi
  
  He was wrong, it is Sunday.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:33pm
JibberJabber

LoL, from the Twitter,

If you’ve escaped Level 3 Auckland for your level 2 low lying seaside bach, all the best.

?
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March 5, 2021 1:06pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Mods, this is a joke OK? (just in case someone gets triggered)
How to tell if someone is Republican, a Democrat, or just a Southerner.
Are you a Republican, a Democrat, or a Southerner? This little test will help you decide:
You’re walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children.
Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges at you…
You are carrying a Kimber 1911 chambered in .45 ACP, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?
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Democrat’s Answer:
Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question! What is a Kimber 1911 and what does .45 ACP mean?
Does the man look poor or oppressed? Is he really a terrorist? Am I guilty of profiling? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation?
Does the pistol have an appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
Is it possible he’d be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
Should I call 9-1-1? Why is this street so deserted? Can we make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior?
I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come to a consensus. This is all so confusing!
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Republican’s Answer:
BANG!
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Southerner’s Answer:
BANG!
BANG! BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Click…..
(Sounds of reloading)
BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG!
Click.
Daughter: “Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Speer Gold Dots or Federal Premium hollow points?!”
Son: “Can I shoot the next one?!”
Wife: “You are NOT taking that to a Taxidermist!”
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March 5, 2021 1:09pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I have decided to cut back on Political posts for a bit. Instead, I will share some word scrambles.
MURPT
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March 5, 2021 1:12pm
- oldfella
  
  Steve, I shuffled the letters around and got ‘are you missing me yet’ but that’s too long.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:21pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Well done
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:03pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  You will trigger SB2.
  It’s his favourite word, after all.
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:29pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Have not seen much of it – must have been given another final warning to cool it
    
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    March 5, 2021 2:05pm
- fernglas
  
  I got “rumpty” almost.
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:04pm
kevn

@SteveO… AAMG ?
While I wait for the possibly over-egged tsunami aka surge.
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March 5, 2021 1:25pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  AAMG?
  got me there
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:06pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    easy…
    
    agma….. that ng thingie
    
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    March 5, 2021 3:00pm
  - Okahu
    
    I can see your point Steve. Perhaps call a friend could be your best option. But then, maybe not.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:11pm
cmm

Government scraps resource management Act!

Big bold headline by the Herald

Small print: They created 3 new acts to replace it.

https://www.watchme.co.nz/news/nz-herald-focus/1st-7th-february-2021/focus-live-government-scraps-resource-management-act-create-three-new-acts/

I thought the hydra was a mythical beast, but thanks to our Labour masters we have something even better. Lop off one head and three pop up – the hydra only regrew two heads.

Kiwis deserve better and we got it eh.
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March 5, 2021 1:26pm
- greybeard
  
  National said back in 2019 that they would do much the same thing. Labour is copying them.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/118223167/national-promises-to-repeal-and-replace-rma
  
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  March 5, 2021 1:35pm
  - sooty
    
    Three buildings instead of one,
    Three times the rent fitout,
    Three times the vehicles,
    Three times the staff,
    Cost savings, not bloody likely!
    Someone check the staff numbers today!
    
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    March 5, 2021 3:22pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Labour can’t administer a sandpit–don’t expect any good to come out of them playing with the RMA.
  An overhaul may be desirable but Labour haven’t got the nous to do it.
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:00pm
Maggie Pie

I Predict…..

‘Hazz & Megs’ will either pull their Oprah interview completely, out of respect for Harry’s grandad……or, edit out some of the more controversial revelations, toning it down so much that the whole doco will hardly be worth watching.

(Due 7:30pm Tuesday TV3)
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March 5, 2021 1:35pm
- Bluegrass
  
  News Just In…. HRH Prince Philip passes away. More to come…
  
  And in other news – Meghan Markle now complaining that the Duke’s death is just another example of the Royal Family’s vendetta against her, causing the media to postpone/cancel airing the Oprah interview.
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:51pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    ??? 5.56 pm No confirmation from BBC or Daily Mail.
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:57pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  I don’t think Ginge and Cringe are thinking at all about the royal family, Gramps or Nana, and despite being Duke and Duchess of Woke – I suspect they only think about themselves.
  “Look at me! Look at me!”
  
  Funny how some people claim the hostility is about race. It doesn’t factor into it.
  Harry formerly had the appearance of being a genuine person – touches of the people’s princess, and military service in tandem meant some linkage to the commoners.
  I don’t know which is the real ‘Arry. He seems to be being lead around by the attention-seeking Meghan and had former loyalties and ties either forgotten or broken now.
  
  They are crying all the way to the bank, and doing nothing good for anyone else.
  Why are they so damned noisy? Piss off to your mansion.
  I prefer the young scruff drinking booze in an Afrika Korps uniform. Now he shuffle along like his testicles are inside Meghans designer handbag.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:05pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Observe ye the field in which I grow my fucks, lo ’tis barren.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:07pm
Master Mariner

Of Interest to me about Earth quakes and Tsunami notifications are,

1. When did earthquake happen, time
2. When did you get notified ?
3. What event did you get notified for, ( Kermedec or East Coast)?.

https://www.tsunami.gov/?page=tsunamiFAQ#:~:text=The%20deeper%20the%20water%3B%20the,approximately%2020%20or%2030%20mph.

https://www.weather.gov/jetstream/tsu_prop

The reason for asking is did you get warned in time?

And if not why not?

Still currently at sea so not sure of all facts and timelines but would be relatively easy to work out?
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March 5, 2021 1:58pm
- kevn
  
  @MM… The tsunami to ‘hit’ NZ has become tidal surges with strong and unusual currents. Very little actual data and no decent images on the ‘live’ TV news. Just regurgitated shots from very early on (pre-dawn even) along with wordsoup from presenters filling the time.
  
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  March 5, 2021 2:25pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep Ok, Been looking at site and they warned pretty much all Sth Island,
    
    Why the hell for ?
    
    Also Post by Ruahine, Mentioned 3 hrs after the Quake a notification was sent. Thats way too late in anyone’s Language if for the same quake.
    If so then totally useless information and bordering on negligence.
    
    Not too be taken lightly however.
    
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    March 5, 2021 3:17pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Don’t expect anything other than negligence from Ardern R.’s govt.
      
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      March 5, 2021 5:52pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So no 5 meter waves? These dumb fucks would not know that even 5M is a swell, not a fucking wave.
    Anyone seen NZ waters today? Flat as
    
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    March 5, 2021 3:30pm
    - kevn
      
      @SteveO… To be fair, a tsunami is like a swell but many kms long, huge massive water volume.
      MM will know all about this and will be able to quote reality. Youtube prob has good examples.
      However, today is an overegged/super extreme caution/lockdown style.
      The evidence never seemed to be there. No shipping reports, nothing, just assumptions.
      
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      March 5, 2021 3:43pm
- Ehlana
  
  The Kermadec earthquake struck about 8:30am, the tsunami warning for it for Auckland was issued at 11:30am.
  
  Not being a Mariner at all, I could quite easily have decided to go seaside and not have my phone on by then – I didn’t feel the quake and I would have expected a warning to come within minutes rather than hours. Just as well it is a work day…
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:09pm
  - kevn
    
    @Ehlana…. Have no fear, the police would have shooed you back up a hill. Someone would have seen you and potted to the police as well.
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:33pm
kevn

@Maggie… hazz and mega. Surely the most unlikeable couple at the moment.
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March 5, 2021 2:01pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Poor buggers. We know exactly how they must be feeling.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:00pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLtDFa7wyng

Andrew ‘granny killer’ Cuomo Ain’t Nice.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is no longer the darling of liberal media, or for that matter, of even his Democrat colleagues. [With his CCP virus record, he is now expendable, and will thus be a useful tool to keep the #MeToo movement going. I wonder if the Dems will do the same to Dementia Joe soon over Tara Reade.]
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March 5, 2021 2:18pm
- SB2
  
  Pretty lame stuff coming from you yet again Now do remindus of the “Granny Killer” Red Republican state governors ?
  
  Not forgetting the mother of a;; Ganny killers Covid 19 denier ex president Trump.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:12pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/23gZL-Kj3aE/

Capitol Lockdown Hoax.

NBC4 Washington reports, U.S. Capitol Police have intelligence that shows “a possible plot to breach the Capitol by an identified militia group” on Thursday. The threat appears to be connected to a conspiracy promoted online, that Trump will rise again to power on March 4. That was the original presidential inauguration day until 1933, when it was moved to Jan. 20. [PMSL]
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March 5, 2021 2:18pm
- SB2
  
  Bound to be utter shate coming from you and your usual sources!
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:14pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    It’s Bigsy Pelosi that started the rumour.
    Maybe some military commanders may rise up against this fraudulent administration. who knows?
    Pelosi has every reason to be concerned.
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:50pm
wilderbeast

Anyone else bemused at how frequently Ashley Bloomfield and MoH in general thank their own staff for doing their job? No wonder we can’t make them accountable…,
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March 5, 2021 2:22pm
- Ruahine
  
  Where’s the virus Ashley?
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:26pm
- kevn
  
  @wilder…. and they get paid as well. Who could imagined.
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Court hearing on the Whakaari/White Island eruption begins.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437712/whakaari-eruption-13-defendants-make-first-appearance-in-court
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March 5, 2021 2:27pm
- sooty
  
  Good to see that the courtcase has been moved to Whakatane! More support for the locals and not the pretty boys and girls from the big end of town! Can you get smashed aryo on toast and latta there!
  
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  March 5, 2021 3:16pm
- hullkiwi
  
  My bet, the volcano did it.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:57pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yeah..
    so blame the poor scientists and the rescue crews.
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:28pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Isn’t the White Island taniwha involved? I don’t trust it not to obey the lock downs.
      
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      March 5, 2021 5:44pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Wokesafe trying to be relevant.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:55pm
john1234

A week of zero community transmission shows the lockdown was completely unncecessary. Remember these results show the result of transmissions ahead of the week as well, due to incubation time.

What a waste. So many losses for nothing.

And it turns out, Covid is generally only fatal for the obese and frail:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2021/03/coronavirus-study-finds-covid-19-death-rates-much-higher-in-obese-countries-doctors-want-obese-next-in-line-for-vaccine.html

The global economy decimated. NZ still 99% unvaccinated. What a clusterfuck.
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March 5, 2021 3:20pm
- [email protected]
  
  99.8% at last count, if you believe it.
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:14pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Friday, State Sector Employees got the office door key in the hand, phone line pulled, and ready to spend tax refundable money at the pub – seat reserved. Make Wellington Great Again.
Wait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD5mtaIbEdY
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March 5, 2021 3:26pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Alert level 3 for Covid 19 is back in place for Auckland. Did we move up or down a level?
Only 3.37pm, time for a whisky, fuck these knuckle draggers
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March 5, 2021 3:37pm
cmm

Clearly Mother Nature loves awesome Cindy.

End of 2019 it was becoming obvious Cindy’s bloody useless and Kiwibuild, like everything else, was turning into a joke.

Then along came CV19 to save her.

Earlier this week people were getting pretty grumpy about the crap CV19 handing, then along comes a “tsunami” to bail her out.

Next week or so, everyone will be grumbling about the crap handling of the “tsunami”. What’s going to bail her out?

I suppose there’s the 15 March anniversary that might give her some opportunities…
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March 5, 2021 3:49pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Didn’t you catch the 4pm show & tell. Jax updated us on her Chch phone call with Macron.
  
  Now we need someone to tell us the truth:
  
  How many of the cases this week reported in managed isolation, are in fact Community Cases, that have been arrested and put in “Managed Isolation and Quarantine”?
  
  We are living in very unsavoury times, where we are getting a “new truth” only from the PTPM and her acolytes.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:48pm
Inandout

Such wonderful immigrants.

‘A 36-year-old woman was allegedly gang raped by four migrants after stopping to talk to them about their situation in a cautionary tale for what is happening in the West as a result of the mindless embrace of tolerance and diversity.

The woman was reportedly accosted by the migrants while traversing Agua La Perra park in the town of Mogan on the Spanish holiday island of Gran Canaria. She was treated by a doctor at a hospital before reporting the crime, and Spain’s Civil Guard has apprehended four suspects after conducting an investigation’.
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March 5, 2021 3:50pm
70andstilllearning

FFS two days absent and the stupid little bitch can’t stop politicking
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March 5, 2021 4:07pm
- Okahu
  
  Your problems with your missus don’t deserve our attention 70. But word of advice, bring flowers if your gone two days. She knows you’re lying but the smell may help her mood a little.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:27pm
Maggy Wassilieff

What an appalling performance now by the PM…

10 minutes to get to the point that everyone in Auckland needed to know.
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March 5, 2021 4:15pm
- Northshoredoc
  
  I agree Maggy ….disgraceful excuse for a political broadcast.
  
  That the DG of Health is a party to this nonsense disgusts me.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:17pm
- kowtow
  
  Not to mention the full on Maori guff by the Minister of Disasters.
  
  Talk of ramming it down our necks.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:20pm
- Ehlana
  
  That seems pretty standard Maggy. How late were they starting the “4pm” press conference?
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:29pm
- lifesgood
  
  If anybody still thinks Jacinda is wonderful they need their head read. What the hell has talking to Macron got to do with anything except “Aren’t I wonderful. I’m on the world stage” She is a brainless show pony. I think she and Meaghan would be bosom buddies. All anybody wanted to know is “When the f**k are ae going down levels?”
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:41pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Yes, well. Clearly a few million people need their heads read, starting with the MSM who at least have the excuse that they’ve been bought and paid for, albeit with our money.
    
    I sincerely apologise to anyone who follows the link, especially around dinner-time but it is the best illustration you can get that St Jacinda the Kind has well and truly captured the less fortunate among us. I don’t mean financially less fortunate, I mean they’re obviously deluded and with an average IQ of about 75.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/124385596/covid19-jacinda-arderns-positivity-backed-up-with-grit-experts-say
    
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    March 5, 2021 7:12pm
- hullkiwi
  
  What a charade, first up that mumpet Kiri Allan, followed by St Ash & Jax.
  
  What we learnt today, is that we live in the Police State of Aotaroa.
  
  So, when is Jax going to cancel elections for our safety?
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:42pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    B4 2023 – said it last year 🙂
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:21pm
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yep, heard Aotearoa at least three times before I got bored and turned it off.
    It’s an insidious and calculated attempt to get rid of New Zealand as the name of our country.
    And why can’t the PM ever make an announcement without all the tedious re-capping of previous “situations” and the thanking of the good little people out there? This is really a form of attention seeking.
    Just get on with it. No need to be in constant electioneering mode.
    
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    March 5, 2021 6:17pm
kowtow

All Covid Control the Sheeple levels should end with immediate effect .

There should never have been another lockdown , just tonnes of testing and isolating anyone who had symptoms pending testing.

These Muppets are destroying the economy upon which all else depends.
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March 5, 2021 4:19pm
- Cinematic
  
  The economy just is an abstract notion for this mob. Like hard work, accountability, common sense. Just way beyond their realm of understanding.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:34pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Not just the economy. They have got the youth severely anxious. We are having to drive them to school as they cannot face their usual bus rides.
  
  The negative social affects of the lock downs are humongous. Smaller business owners and staff are panicky too. The few deaths we have had attributed to COVID, particularly as they have mostly been among the non-productive have had little national affect by comparison to the damage inflicted through controls. A generation of children and youth have been compromised.
  
  Businesses are still being destroyed. Contractors are competitive and decision makers are slow or locked down. Subsidies helped briefly but that does not bring back customers. Those who have decided to work from home have added to the lack of business for many.
  
  It seems to be a surprise that many businesses don’t have the cash buffers to continue for ever. That is the norm. Cash is employed in working capital beyond that it’s investment, frequently financed by loans in an active business. Borrowing is pointless and likely denied when the business drops. As an Accountant I am seeing it still worsening. Public Servants can sit a home working on full pay but their former lunchbar owner or electrician cannot.
  
  Too many ideologues trying to bake a cake and insufficient bakers.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:38pm
- Dougal10
  
  Should have changed levels from 5pm today but she is on a government salary and has no business sense at all.
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:18pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I just learned a new word on play school TV1.
‘comoodidy’ The whole tsunami response got turned into Covid in 4 sentences – PTPM of diversion.
Seems like we are in some sort of socialist controlled state.
Sunday 6am? Why are the planes at Whenuapai very active atm? PTPM isolation, that’s why
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March 5, 2021 4:22pm
- john1234
  
  Cindy has the nation on tenterhooks tuned in to see if she’ll show beneficence to them. She’s never going to miss the opportunity to make political face time with it.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:32pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So she has to get back to the ‘big smoke’ with child and nanny? Also first fish will be on the road, back to showing people how to catch and not just fish – boat time and no 5M waves.
    
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    March 5, 2021 5:23pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Ah leave the poor “1st Man?” alone.
      
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      March 5, 2021 5:31pm
graham

According to the Herald, Jacinda Ardern said “she spoke to French president Emmanuel Macron this morning, and the Covid-19 response came up.”

What? Where on earth did that come from? Without having watched the actual footage, I’m wondering just why it was necessary to mention “oh by the way, I was just chatting to the French president, as one does …”.

Was there actually any reason for her to mention this? Or is this just grand-standing nonsense?
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March 5, 2021 4:26pm
- Cinematic
  
  It was a critical part of 11 minutes of irrelevant political waffle whilst the citizens waited for alert level updates. They’ve worked out humans will hang around for 10-11 minutes before turning off. Hence the political waffle always lasts for about that long. The repeatedly delayed start is a display of authority.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:40pm
- [email protected]
  
  Yes
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:08pm
- Dougal10
  
  My vote is on the side of nonsense
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:20pm
john1234

God I am sick to death of Cindy. Watched the 4pm stream to find out if we are let out of lockdown, but oh no, can’t get that information until we have sat through 10 minutes of political waffle first. Starting with some no-name minister of earthquakes, who conveyed absolutely nothing in her 5 minutes of fame. Total misuse of the Covid platform. Then 5 minutes of Cindy’s drivel before we find out that despite there being a total of zero ct over 5 days of lockdown, we will still get another day of it tomorrow. FFS why? Another vital trading day lost by the hospitality and tourism sectors for no reason.

You people who voted for these idiots… how are you feeling?
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March 5, 2021 4:30pm
- Ehlana
  
  Agree john. If they had said, on Tuesday or Wednesday, for example: “If there are no new cases in the community by Friday midday and the test results we’re waiting on come back clear, then lockdown levels will change at 5pm Friday”, then hospitality businesses could have decided for themselves whether it was worth ordering supplies and organising staff for Friday evening & Saturday.
  It would be nice to have the chance to support somewhere local with a weekend meal.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:34pm
- Cinematic
  
  From what I can see those that voted for this are still lapping it up. They argue with absolute passion that everything Jacinda et al does is above reproach. Beyond questioning. MSM thinks so too.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:43pm
Ehlana

Alert levels change back a level 6am on Sunday.

Alert Level 2 for Auckland, 1 for everyone else.

Does anyone remember what the difference is between 1 & 2?
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March 5, 2021 4:31pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Tell you in 2029. Never let a crisis go to waste
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:36pm
- john1234
  
  It’s the 100 limit gathering size… and mandatory seating etc at venues.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:39pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Level 2 you have to be seated and be served by a waitress (the 3 Ss). Meant to be social distancing of desks in the office and the number of people at a gather is 100 (level 2), unlimited Level 1.
  There were meant to be rules on buses, but that is out the window.
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:39pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  SFA
  
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  March 5, 2021 4:55pm
- Dougal10
  
  Lots of difference . Going out for a casual dinner and spending a couple of dollars at a local business or eating something from the big chain supermarket at home.
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:25pm
- curry4me
  
  Ehlana: Good, thanks for that info. If I had to watch the announcements on TV, I’d start throwing things at the screen.
  
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  March 5, 2021 7:05pm
Loddenthinks

Ardern: “I believe it’s possible to exist in politics without lying”

Also Ardern: “No, I haven’t lied during my time in politics”

Ardern earlier this week threw Case L and her family under the bus, criticising them for not isolating or being tested, denying the evidence shown that they weren’t advised to isolate.

Also Ardern today: Ardern said earlier in the week that she doesn’t believe anyone deliberately disobeyed advice. “I don’t believe that for a moment.”

Lying like a flatfish – are you listening Ardern defenders?
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March 5, 2021 4:44pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  backtracking on her big drama of being SO ANGRY at the person who went off to work.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:26pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Your first sentence is the first lie.
  That is all NZ needs to know
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:28pm
- [email protected]
  
  Ardern: “I believe it’s possible to exist in politics without lying”
  
  It probably is possible to exist in politics without lying but how many politicians do not lie? Very few in my opinion.
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:01pm
Jack5

The Dr Seuss book ban

Ebay is sweeping its site to prevent resale of the six banned Dr Seuss books, which are:

– “And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street”;

– “If I Ran the Zoo”;

– “McElligot’s Pool”;

– “On Beyond Zebra!”;

– “Scrambled Eggs Super!”; and

– “The Cat’s Quizzer”

These have been removed from publication by Dr. Seuss Enterprises LP, which oversees Dr. Seuss’s publishing interests. It says the titles will no longer be published because they “portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong.”

Many Seuss books are still for sale on New Zealand’s Trade Me. Let’s hope it has the moral courage to keep letting them trade.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower:

Don’t join the book burners. Do not think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed.
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March 5, 2021 4:47pm
- Swifty
  
  “I did not sniff her here or there. I did not sniff her anywhere.”
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:27pm
  - curry4me
    
    Swifty: Is that a Beijing Biden quote?
    
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    March 5, 2021 7:07pm
    - Swifty
      
      So they say.
      
      🙂
      
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      March 5, 2021 7:47pm
- Mike
  
  Moral courage is definitely required to buy and treasure the obscure and racist parts of the Dr Suess oeuvre.
  
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  March 5, 2021 5:29pm
  - Jack5
    
    Censor yourself, Mike. Let others read what they choose.
    
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    March 5, 2021 8:33pm
    - Jack5
      
      PS: for anyone new to Kiwiblog –
      
      “Mike” and “Mikenmild” are the same poster. One pseudonym comes up when he logs on in the usual way, the other when he signs on through Patreon.
      
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      March 5, 2021 9:34pm
      - Bea Rossini
        
        Ps. For all those others – Jack5 and Jackoff are one in the same posters – you can tell.
        
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        March 6, 2021 12:14am
- herb1
  
  I’m amazed at the cancel culture and their ability to find racism, sexism , homophobia and violence ,where it dosent occur.
  I’m even more amazed at their inability to find the above where it actually does occur
  
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  March 5, 2021 6:13pm
Swifty

For Maggy:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uj8v2w4lv9lp507/IMG_0146%5B1%5D.MOV?dl=0

Latest pepper crop vid.
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March 5, 2021 6:00pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Bluddy Hell…looks like a jungle out there.
  
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  March 5, 2021 7:40pm
Maggie Pie

Just heard my partner telling his mate….. the poor mugs who got sucked into the ‘My Food Bag’ IPO today, saw the best part of 40mil wiped off their ‘investment’. Not that it would worry Nadia & co they’ve pulled their cash out.

[“they’ve pulled their cash out” – do you have evidence of that please? Mod.]
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March 5, 2021 7:50pm
- Jack5
  
  The My Food Bag Group owners came out well, quitting 75 per cent of their holding at $1.85.
  
  Shares closed their first day at $1.74.
  
  Not a good day for the NZ Stock Exchange as the My Food Bag Group listing was its biggest initial public offering since 2014.
  
  Staff and customers were among the new shareholders.
  
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  March 5, 2021 8:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    The ASX pre-quotation disclosure shows that for at 30 September 2020, My Food Bag Group had net assets of $NZ53.567 million.
    
    Its after-tax profit for the six months ended 30 September was $7,575,025, and its net operational cash inflow for this period was $10,287,544.
    
    On the NZX, its market capitalisation (value) at the close of trading today was $421,841,000.
    
    On the ASX, My Food Bag Group closed down 23c (12.4 per cent) at $(NZ)1.62.
    
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    March 5, 2021 9:32pm

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