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Happychappy

After Stuart Nash comments on International Tourism with placing ‘to much pressure ‘on places like Queenstown and Brand New Zealand risked as a result it seems Queenstown Tourism Operators were also disappointed in Nash’s speech with one saying ‘ he didn’t have time for us.
I-Fly indoor skydiving operator told Newshub nation Nash’s appearance in Queenstown on Friday was ‘invite only’ and 95 percent of Tourism Operators were not invited.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/queenstown-tourism-operator-disappointed-by-minister-stuart-nash-s-speech.html
As I have said before Stuart Nash fucked up gun laws after the Mosque Shootings and now gangs run rife on our Streets Towns and Cities with the Law that has it hand tied behind their backs because of this inept Government that will do everything in their power to fuck Business and Queenstown our pride and joy of the Tourism Trade and
Ventures unfortunately is one of them.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/03/queenstown-tourism-operator-disappointed-by-minister-stuart-nash-s-speech.html
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March 21, 2021 8:01am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Doesn’t surprise me it was “invite only” as he would have received a very hostile welcome otherwise. This government simply does not care about small business.
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:01am
  - kowtow
    
    Also not exactly open and transparent.
    
    In fact opaque , secretive and manipulading.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:06am
    - oldfella
      
      kowtow: ‘opaque, secretive, and manipulading’ also describes the Morrinsville Muppet.
      Maybe she’s the big problem?
      
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      March 21, 2021 9:48am
      - Bob
        
        Oldfella… remember that Adern is a trained ‘Communist facilitator’; all captured on U-tube.
        She has an Agenda that is Marxist orientated, and has no room for private enterprise and ‘people of ambition and independent means’
        NZ has a very black future ahead as long as she and her so called government and green support structure are in control of the Treasury.
        
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        March 21, 2021 11:51am
  - Tricati
    
    Ministers that walk away from reporters when questioned, PM that cancels appearance on radio show due to hard questions, and now a Minister who selects his audience sends a clear signal – They are inept and a bloody disgrace to hold a Ministerial warrant yet their arrogance prevails over all they do.
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:56am
Luke Piewalker

Doesn’t take much to see why Cindy wants to keep covid going as long as possible.

The alternative is one failure after another. Truly the worst government in NZ history.

Yes Cindy that’s your legacy. Failure.
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March 21, 2021 8:10am
- artemisia
  
  Currently in hiding behind Minister Robertson. Which is quite easy to do.
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:51am
- kowtow
  
  It’s the Oppositions’ job to make it obvious .
  But they appear to have been frightened by that facebook campaign against “negative’ Simon Bridges ( who the hell organised that , there’s surely a story there) and the Media Pardy are so on board with the radical Left wing agenda of Labour/ Green that the massive failings just don’t get the airing they should .
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:05am
  - Philview
    
    I did read somewhere that an overseas company was used to set up the Facebook attack on Simon Bridges. This should have been a massive story but in the end only got slight coverage by the media.
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:09am
  - PeeJay
    
    I’ve been a bit annoyed about the lack of a cohesive opposition but maybe they are being smart? The old Napoleon quote springs to mind – never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. The election is a long way away and the electorate aren’t really interested? Maybe this is tactical brilliance rather than pathetic silence? One can only hope!
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:19am
    - Brian McDonald
      
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      Lack of strategy and discipline.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:12am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Spoken like a true Fraser House basement dweller.
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:21pm
      - artemisia
        
        Definitely some truth in that, more so wrt lack of discipline. Not much public evidence of lack of discipline in recent weeks though.
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:34pm
    - Bob
      
      never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
      
      why stop Labour from digging such a big hole, they seem to be enjoying themselves down in the ‘DIRT’; besides this hole is the only ‘shovel ready project’ that they have.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:58am
    - artemisia
      
      There will eventually be a change of government, probably National/ACT. There is no hurry to announce policy. There are starting to be a few palpable hits on targets that present themselves though. There will be more (no shortage of targets).
      
      The current government is not delivering effectively, even on its own pledges, If that continues there will be an almighty mess to clean up, needing big changes. Some unpleasant.
      
      Fortunately under the current government there are opportunities for smart people to take advantage and do pretty well, setting their households up for the future. Common enough with left-leaning governments of course.
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:32pm
- calendar girl
  
  Where is Jacinda Ardern anyway? We’re two-thirds of the way through March, and any Prime Ministerial presence and leadership have been less than obvious in 2021.
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:12am
  - softail 1450
    
    calender girl, She is having panic attacks again ,medication will only suppress this problem for so long and they always return in the end .
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:56am
    - SmokerGuy
      
      Is it really useful to say this sort of thing? I despise what this government is doing to New Zealand and I think Ardern is the most overrated leader I can ever recall but getting personal like this is unwarranted
      
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      March 21, 2021 2:44pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How our Climate Change Commission is viewed across the ditch

https://spectator.com.au/2021/02/saint-jacindas-climate-change-lucky-dip/
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March 21, 2021 8:11am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Yes, but would it be open to Marxist critique?
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:19am
- KevO'Brien
  
  But will Ardern R. survive the rise in supermarket store prices?
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:22am
  - artemisia
    
    Noticeably empty shelves in the supermarket. They do attempt to hide them by adding extra rows of available stuff – can’t blame them for that – but they must be a bit worried.
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:25am
    - cas
      
      Lots of beers in absentia in our local supermarket. It has been almost impossible to get Pure Blonde now that I have turned to low carb beers.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:12am
- CJames
  
  To get the $250/ tonne CO2 carbon tax price , petrol will cost an extra $1 a litre. Can you imagine what will happen when people see that? How long will the Government last then?
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:37am
  - kowtow
    
    “When people see that ”
    
    They should be ashamed of themselves , educated , independent “adults” , who can’t see what their voting is bringing the rest of us to .
    
    I despise them and their ignorance of the real world. The real world beyond Teddy Bears and a smiley sweet PM who’s “saved” us from Wuflu and who’ll save us from the rising seas and scorching sun.
    
    But the great and the good keep telling us that this is where politics matter , the soft centre.
    
    Donncha just lurv the swing voter.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:01am
    - ISeeRed
      
      That’s what I find infuriating. The low-IQ, mouth-breathing simpletons among us, you can’t really blame them for voting the way they do. It’s the self-styled sophisticates and over-educated intelligentsia who can supposedly discern nuance and understand complexity yet end up voting for simplistic policies with perverse incentives and disastrous consequences that utterly disgust me. They’re supposed to be smarter and know better, but they aren’t and don’t. They actually think they’re good people with good intentions doing good while flushing the country down the social and economic toilet. Beneath and beyond contempt they are.
      
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      March 21, 2021 1:53pm
  - rouppe
    
    They’ll just look innocent and say”good thing we’re banning petrol cars from 2032, then”…
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:43am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    What happens if petrol/oil become obsolete as a motor fuel?
    There is a real ferment out there at present with new energy sources coming on stream. They may cause a re-think about carbon taxes as emissions may drop naturally.
    
    One, has now licenced 12 international producers for an electricity producer which can run cars, busses etc and proven for homes and industry. It’s available as 3 phase AC among others. Some of the force fields around the earth are being harnessed so the energy is continuously available at only hardware cost.
    
    We don’t need to scoff, others have already done that and satisfied themselves to the extent they have agreed to set up international manufacturing and distribution. Science often leaves us mere humans with imponderables only.
    
    I think we have been overtaken by some new inventions.
    
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    March 21, 2021 4:12pm
- [email protected]
  
  Judith Sloan certainly has a way with words and doesn’t mince them.
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:41am
- 3-coil
  
  Thanks for the link Maggy – absolutely superb article. Judith Sloan’s writing is AAA+++
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:24am
- Liberty
  
  It is notable the article is a month old. And no comment From Dear Leaders patsy media.
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:32am
  - Nickc2
    
    They must be due for another $50,000,000.00 plus taxpayer-funded gift.
    
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    March 21, 2021 11:29am
    - Liberty
      
      At some stage the State tit sucking media will find their spine. And as the worm has turned
      It will be sooner than later. Because rats jump before the ship sinks.
      
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      March 21, 2021 1:51pm
- Tall Man
  
  “But here’s the key fact: per capita income in New Zealand is a mere three-quarters of the level in Australia.”
  
  Pfftttt, we’ve got more hugz……..
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:50am
- Cobolt24
  
  Ever notice how a lot of NZ media puts out stories when international outlets write a (usually positive) story on Jacinda? They didn’t do it for this one.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:18pm
SB2

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Hands up who on KB believes in this Qanon stuff? and the second coming of Trump New Testament style Maybe the downticks will give us some clues ,

What next for QAnon if its latest deadline for Donald Trump’s heroic return proves another disappointment?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/qanon-20-march-trump-conspiracy-theory-b1819634.html
Conspiracy theory cult expects ex-president to finally make his comeback on 20 March, its gory fantasies of bloody uprising and revenge executions persisting two months after Joe Biden’s inauguration

QAnon prophesied that Trump would make that heroic return on the Ides of March -. the 4th.Now they shifted the goalposts once again till the 20th Anything apocalyptic to report ?

Rather like those prophetic Evangelical ministries who believed Trump was like a second coming and he would return in all his glory on the 4th January The goal posts shifted to inauguration day then maybe a little cagely sometime in 2021.
Again who believes in this kind of nonsense?

The Christian Prophets Who Say Trump Is Coming Again

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/02/18/how-christian-prophets-give-credence-to-trumps-election-fantasies-469598
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March 21, 2021 8:20am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  The value of QAnon lies in the fact that it helps Boomers believe in some of the right things, but perhaps for the wrong reasons. Trump is likely not “coming back” until 2024 (if at all directly, politically), but the nationalist, anti-Globalist sentiment he has tapped into isn’t going anywhere. He didn’t create it, but he gave birth to it, so to speak. It has only increased since 2016. This is a problem for those who wish to crush any political dissent and who are strategically misrepresenting these people as “domestic terrorists.”
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:57am
  - SB2
    
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    “The value of QAnon lies in the fact that it helps Boomers believe in some of the right things, but perhaps for the wrong reasons.”
    
    Now joking aside..
    
    “This is a problem for those who wish to crush any political dissent..”
    
    Joe Biden ??
    
    LOL
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:24am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Some think Trump was the river, but he was just the dam. And now the dam has been removed.
      
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      March 21, 2021 1:56pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    I’d take a guess that “QAnon” is actually a Psy-Op, probably run out of Langley. Certainly smells like it, it is too prolonged to be 4-Chan, and not monetised well enough to be the usual grifters.
    
    So based on the way it used by the Democrats to attack their opposition, I would guess that they are in fact in charge of what appears in Q and can direct their attacks with that knowledge.
    
    Same way that the CIA were almost certainly involved in setting up the fake “Guccifer2” sock puppet as part of the “Russian Hacking” hoax.
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:04pm
- Greg Ettridge
  
  One thing we can be sure of is poor old Joe Biden won’t be ascending the stairs to a second presidency.
  Unlike Trump, he has achieved nothing except bedlam on the borders, put USA back in the forefront as a warmonger, debt ridden the generations to come.
  you may not like Trump, or even despise him, but compared with watching the disaster we are watching before our eyes, Joe will be a very lucky man to make it through his first year of presidency.
  Trump is an achiever, hate it if you wish, but at least he can still think in a cognitive manner for himself. I would much rather a leader that has their own thoughts and can speak them, like them or not.
  The US public are waking up very rapidly they have been sold a dud, if Utube keeps going all comments will be turned off to protect this weak old senile man in Biden. I fell very sorry for him, but his manipulators needs to be bought to account.
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:07am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Its a laugh watching poor old Biden trying to look young and sprightly, trotting around and climbing stairs only to show that he is actucally a senile old guy who should be in a rest home.
    
    Who is actually running the show? Harris doesnt seem to have what it takes. There must be someone or some people pulling the levers.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:14am
    - Nickc2
      
      IMO. Sanders, Pelosi and Schumer.
      
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      March 21, 2021 9:18am
    - Greg Ettridge
      
      If his wife had half a brain, she would take him up the stairs and slow him down, but it is not in the narrative.
      It must be the minders coming up with this running around looking young bullshit.
      I am seventy, I no longer go upstairs running and two at a time as Joe attempted.
      He was still trying the running two stairs trick after the third fall.
      He almost looks like a controlled robot, scary really for him, and the world to watch.
      Getting old comes with many aspects that really piss you off, but the alternative isn’t better until you lose you quality of life.
      Joe is well down the road to this.
      
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      March 21, 2021 9:32am
      - softail 1450
        
        greg ,,, the silly old bugger was still trying to jog when he finally stumbled to the top and very nearly crashed into the door on Airforce one on his way through it.
        
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        March 21, 2021 10:07am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Has the Wold Economic Forum had Biden microchipped?
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:26pm
    - Inandout
      
      Tom, yes the background money accumulators, also known as ‘the swamp’, care little about Biden’s failing health. They established him in the WH and he will be replaced in due course by a more stout individual. Anyone who thinks the Dem leadership debates were genuine is dreaming, as they merely chose the best known, regardless of competence. As Time magazine has since boasted, the election strategy was meticulously planned, years in the making.
      
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      March 21, 2021 9:36am
      - Okahu
        
        Hold on. You say Biden was ‘established’ in the White House by ‘money accumulators’. That sounds like a good story. Care to flesh it out a little beyond the realms of fantasist witterings? I mean those primary contests where the states select their candidate and the candidate with the most delegates at the national conference wins…all just theatre?
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:01pm
      - ISeeRed
        
        Okahu, it’s all laid out here:
        
        https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
        
        “…even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, CHANGE rules and laws, STEER media coverage and CONTROL the flow of information.” [My uppercase for emphasis]
        
        And the next line is classic Orwellian doublespeak:
        
        “They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it.”
        
        Biden was selected, not elected.
        
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        March 21, 2021 2:01pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Is ‘background money accumulators’ another codeword for, you know, (((those people)))?
        
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        March 21, 2021 2:37pm
    - V
      
      It used to be the Soviet Union that had a half-warm human cadaver installed as their leader, now we leave that to the democratic party of the US.
      
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      March 21, 2021 6:56pm
  - virtualmark
    
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    What a total load of Trump cult bollocks.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:22am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      They can’t get enough of it, can they?
      
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      March 21, 2021 10:09am
    - Fletch
      
      Is the U.S better or worse since Trump left? I’ll answer for you – worse in just about every way. And in the ways it’s better it is because of Trump’s legacy.
      
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      March 21, 2021 10:24am
      - virtualmark
        
        Bollocks.
        
        $1.9 billion of stimulus spend. An effective vaccine rollout. Firm pushback to Russia & China. Re-establishing relationships with traditional allies.
        
        And all those GOP stories about COVID infected transgender Central American migrants forcing Americans to drive electric cars, convert to wind energy, and burn all the Dr Suess books have been shown to be just hate-mongering scare tactics. But you do seem scared. Guess those stories work on some people.
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:18pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        Virtualmark, better check your meds.
        
        Vaccine rollout, OK, I’ll admit that the Biden administration improved on the Trump efforts by going from a paltry 1 million a day to the far better 100 Million in 100 days. The USA was so lucky with that.
        
        Firm pushback on China and Russia, my God, where do you get your stuff. Putin just trashed Biden for everyone to see, and the Anchorage e summit has been (despite the frantic attempts by the MSM to pretend otherwise) a diplomatic disaster for the Biden administration. The Chinese just ripped Blinken and his team a new one, and they just sat there and took it.
        
        Both countries now quite rightly perceive that under the new administration, the US is weak and can be pushed around. Like the US militaries two big priorities right now ? Producing maternity flight suits and conducting loyalty purges in the ranks for those who believe that the BLM riots were not good for the USA.
        
        I’ll tell you who must be most concerned right now, Taiwan.
        
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        March 21, 2021 3:12pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Ed, you’re always a reliable Trump sycophant.
        
        Biden got 100 million vaccinations away in 58 days, not 100.
        
        Biden called out Putin, both for election interference (see US intelligence community report this week) and with the “Putin is a killer” comment. The White House has clearly indicated they are going to place significant sanctions on Russia. They are trying to kill the Nord Stream 2 project. The Russian ambassador to the US has been recalled to Moscow for “urgent consultations on how to rectify US-Russian relations”. I predict firmer actions in the next 6 months.
        
        Re China the Biden administration has clearly pointed to “our deep concerns with actions by China, including in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyberattacks on the United States and economic coercion toward our allies.”. For example they’ve warned China that placing trade pressures on Australia will lead to trade responses from America. So a multi-national focus instead of America First bravado. I predict in the next 6 months we could see US laws requiring all offshore manufactured goods to prove they were not made with slave labour … who do you think that would be directed at?
        
        But hey, you keep worshipping your orange God. But another prediction … within 6 months he’s charged in multiple states, and the Court cases will show a lifetime of fraud and deceit.
        
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        March 21, 2021 5:15pm
    - Greg Ettridge
      
      So getting old and changing your habits is Trump cult bollocks!
      It is a very serious subject, I have have a few mates that have gone from being perfectly fit to cot cases through falling over, or off a ladder.
      This is a serious issue and people need to be aware, they think it can not happen to them it does.
      Trump and Biden have not a lot to do with it, except Biden will regret these foolish childish antics, it will come back to bite him.
      The left and right get the same injuries from a fall, not sure why, but the powers to be don’t seem to draw a line between the two.
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:37pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Biden tripped on some stairs. We’ve all done it. Yes, even you. But it doesn’t signal the end of his Presidency. Heck George W vomited in the lap of the Japanese PM and then fainted, but didn’t resign the next day.
        
        Meanwhile Trump wears Depends because he’s incontinent, wears a girdle to stop him falling, wears a toupee, has lifts in his shoes, is obese, can’t fold an umbrella, dodged the draft at least 4 times … but you guys think he’s the image of manliness.
        
        You should do standup.
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:54pm
      - Ed Snack
        
        VM, so Biden served and didn’t first get multiple student deferrals before suddenly developing a disqualifying condition ? Wow, didn’t know that, so where did he serve ?
        
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        March 21, 2021 3:14pm
  - SB2
    
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    “One thing we can be sure of is poor old Joe Biden won’t be ascending the stairs to a second presidency.”
    
    ???
    
    But the Democrats and who they select may
    
    Trump an achiever??
    
    https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019
    
    All sour grapes and PTSD post-election reality.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:25am
    - Inandout
      
      SB2, a glimmer of hope here for your TDS, but in all honesty these excuses for Biden’s failings are lame:
      ‘He has a stutter from childhood’
      ‘The wind blew him over on the plane steps’
      ‘The video clips are doctored by Fox’
      ‘Lots of Presidents have slipped and fallen’
      ‘He will give an address to the nation soon, he is a very busy man you see’.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:22am
      - sooty
        
        But we all know that the golf ball hit him in the back of the swede!
        
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        March 21, 2021 9:51pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Greg , early this morning I made a comment on Bidens abilities and sanity using the word “moron”on a blog I have been commenting on for years,the second I hit post comment a block came up asking me if my comment was against google /youtubes rules, WTF is going on when you cant use Biden and Moron on a comment without being threatened ?
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:30am
    - Inandout
      
      soft, apparently porno and pedo vidoes are ok so you could slip comments in there.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:25am
    - Bluegrass
      
      Obviously because it is a tautology and hence ‘moron’ is redundant.
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:40pm
      - artemisia
        
        Those grammar nazis. Give them an inch and they think they’re a ruler.
        
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        March 21, 2021 12:52pm
    - tf78
      
      softail – in future say merengue.
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:52pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
    March 18th polls show you are out of touch. I don’t think Biden needs you to feel sorry for him. Donald bent over for Putin who must still have the goods on him. Biden called him out.
    
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/339977/biden-approval-ratings-diverge-gender-education-race.aspx
    
    Sixty-six percent of adults under age 30 believe Biden is doing a good job, compared with 51% of adults ages 50 and older. Meanwhile, 57% of those between the ages of 30 and 49 give Biden a favorable review.
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:49am
    - tf78
      
      Brian, 60% of people also believe the toothy fairy.
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:53pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
    I was impressed with how quick he got up 3 times. Nobody mentions that, I guess it doesn’t fit the picture.
    
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    March 21, 2021 11:11am
    - Inandout
      
      BM, that bloody wind again.
      
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      March 21, 2021 11:26am
    - lifesgood
      
      He fell THREE BLOODY TIMES for God’s sake. He is not only senile but infirm.
      
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      March 21, 2021 1:23pm
      - Okahu
        
        Big song a couple of years back.
        
        I get knocked down, but I get up again!
        
        He also stood tall and snapped a fine salute to his honour guard before entering his plane. I suspect around here there is a little admiration at his efforts that can’t quite find voice in this forum.
        
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        March 21, 2021 3:44pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Although it is amusing watching Biden fumble his way up the stairs, the real issue behind the amusement is that, had this been Trump, you, and all the MSM, would have not defended him (people fall all the time, or, hey, he got up three times !, or it was windy), no, they would have laughed long and loud and made it front page news that Trump was infirm and should resign.
      
      Hypocrisy should always be mocked.
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:18pm
    - I remember when
      
      If you keep falling over you get good at getting up.
      
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      March 22, 2021 8:56am
- JibberJabber
  
  Steffy eh?
  Kiwiblogs resident Pearlfish.
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:33am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You live and you learn
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoZ6wHiSnI
    
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    March 21, 2021 10:37am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Wow JJ – that’s hilarious. And very accurate. 😆
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:37pm
- softail 1450
  
  SB2 ,When you showed such support for the new POTUS I wasn’t aware Joey was an accomplished gymnast ,had I known I’d have supported him as well ,,LMFAO.
  Vlads words suit your abilities to pick a great POTUS ” takes a nutter to know one.”
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:03am
I remember when

If the world established 45% of the ocean as a marine protection area the result would be healthier fisheries, richer diversity and enhanced carbon uptake.
The finding are the result of 3-years work by more than two dozen ocean experts.
They carved the ocean into 50x50km, then evaluated each plot for threats faced, species contained, uniqueness of species and abundance of the 3000 most economically important fish.
They also built the first global map of carbon stored in the sea floor, finding marine sediment stored twice as much as terrestrial earth.
The analysis highlights the risks associated with bottom trawling.
It unleashes carbon store in the sediment, tossing carbon into the water column, where it may be eaten by bacteria and turned into CO2.
The study suggests bottom trawling emissions equal those of the global airline industry.
China alone could prevent the release of 769 million tonnes of CO2 – a climate benefit equal to pausing 198 coal fired power plants for a year.
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March 21, 2021 8:27am
- Master Mariner
  
  That report was commissioned by likes of Legasea,Green peace and half dozen other “truth benders”.
  
  It has zero crediability.
  Unfortunately gets air time and fits the agenda.
  
  Next thing you wont be able to dig your garden to put spuds in.
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:14pm
- Okahu
  
  It’s possible to be out of step with the vibe around here. So, just to get clarity, are we now saying it is a good idea to restrict carbon emissions to the atmosphere?
  
  Why, I read here quite recently that agriculture thrives on added atmospheric CO2. Please, for the sake of clarity and the avoidance of confusion, have those despicable greens been right all along? Have we been running a disastrous, delusional campaign of denial against our own children’s best interests for the last few decades? Was Owen Jennings’ recent post the last putrid outpourings of a sick man and a self serving belief system in its death throes?
  
  I only ask because so many around here seemed to like it! Yet your post is up ticked 2/1 at this time. Is the vibe mobile or is Sunday the problem?
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:52pm
  - I remember when
    
    The point was that they are taking the three for one approach.
    Let’s not upset the oceans CO2 sink, control fishing take and ban bottom trawling in one study.
    Even managing a side swipe at Chinese coal burning power production at the same time.
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:41pm
    - Okahu
      
      Huh?
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:54pm
- [email protected]
  
  At the risk of irritating the Greenies here, has anyone considered how New Zealand could benefit from actual global warming?
  
  Tourism would flourish as no-one would want to go to a country that was too hot whereas New Zealand would become tropical. Exports would benefit since we would not have to import all those higher temperature crops we could not grow before and begin to export them to the countries that used to be able to grow them.
  
  My wife thinks that the police are going to show up at our front door any day now!
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:39pm
mikenmildagain

Happy International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination!
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March 21, 2021 8:56am
- oldfella
  
  Mikey: send flowers to Marama Davidson. Her kind of day.
  
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  March 21, 2021 9:18am
  - rockape
    
    White ones only.
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:16pm
- Fletch
  
  I’m sure there is racial discrimination somewhere. 99% of it is fake and just used to smear opponents.
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:25am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Sad.
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:18pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, sad how the term “racist” is almost meaningless now. You can be accused and shamed for it based only on the colour of your skin.
      
      Sad that you support that Mikey.
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:20pm
- I remember when
  
  If sport has so much discrimination against coloured players why are there so many of them.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:44pm
Nickc2

Supposition BS!
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March 21, 2021 9:06am
BAM

Did Muller tell Judith Collins that he was going to do a big in-depth interview about his “leadership” with Stuff?
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March 21, 2021 9:18am
- Gravelroad
  
  What was the point of that article?
  I gave up after reading about two-thirds.
  Feel sorry for the guy but really, is this all the National Party has to offer profile wise?
  There must be something, someone in their ranks who can spark a bit of vitality and confidence, surely?
  Mr Muller chose his path, and OK, the walk down that path didn’t reach a destination.
  Except, of course, he’s still in Parliament albeit sitting with his back against a wall.
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:01am
  - I remember when
    
    Unless National can invent a major variant of covid that only they can cure…
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:48pm
- curry4me
  
  BAM: What leadership? He was only there for five minutes.
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:16am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Can’t have been a very big article. I know more about leadership than Muller could write on his postage stamp and, I know, the first rule is ‘don’t be a twat’
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:28am
- [email protected]
  
  I give Mr. Muller credit for baring all. The job did him in emotionally and I sympathize. Better to try and fail than to not try at all.
  
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  March 21, 2021 8:28pm
JibberJabber

Q&A scraping the bottom of the intellectual barrel atm.

Lame Jack tame ” we should be asking immigrants, what can we do for them? Not what can they do for us.”

Lacrimatus est Iesus
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March 21, 2021 9:19am
- softail 1450
  
  Jibber Jabber, Hack Lame then went out to interview “young NZrs on the subject of immigration ,12 people interviewed 11 people of Colour and 1 possible European ,such an evenly chosen group of young people aye ?
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    No, that is our make up if you watch any TVNZ. Spot the whitey . . .
    
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    March 21, 2021 11:30am
oldfella

I wonder how long it will be before one of the ‘offended’ takes to it with aerosol can.
Mural of brothel owner Bill Crowe on Gareth Morgan’s property sparks upset
Gareth Morgan’s artistic tribute to a well-known brothel owner has ruffled feathers in one of Wellington’s swankiest streets.
The mural – splashed across a “tucked away” wall at the front of Morgan’s property – features the late Wellington brothel owner Bill Crowe clinging to a “raunchy” hooker.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/mural-of-brothel-owner-bill-crowe-on-gareth-morgans-property-sparks-upset/HEYK2U44ZM7JIB45FC77U5KYQQ/
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March 21, 2021 9:20am
- lifesgood
  
  It does beg the question as to why on earth anyone would want to deface their own home with an image of a brothel owner. I always wondered about the sanity of Morgan. Now I know.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:27pm
Yvette

The government has just bought enough of the Pfizer vaccine to vaccinate the entire adult population, but research shows about one in three people remain sceptical or hesitant about Covid-19 vaccines. The health ministry reports that there is even more scepticism about its safety among Māori communities.

This is particularly concerning given Māori overall have the worst health outcomes in the country, and recent data shows they are at a much higher risk of being hospitalised with the coronavirus than non-Māori.

There is an urgent need to get people on board with the vaccination rollout to increase its effectiveness – so it was a surprise last week when Māori party co-leader Rawiri Waititi said he would not tell Māori communities that they must get the vaccine.
“Because that’s what mana motuhake is all about, mana motuhake is about everybody being able to freely make that choice,” Waititi told Radio New Zealand. “We’re not going to make it mandatory and I would be against that.”

Waititi’s comments did not sit well with a lot of people, including Māori ministers such as Peeni Henare, who challenged Waititi’s interpretation of mana motuhake.
“Mana motuhake manifests itself in many ways for individual hapū and iwi,” Henare told media. “For my whānau [family] for example, mana motuhake is about protecting our whānau … I think in the main part [Waititi’s] comments are unhelpful.” – Guardian.

One major principle of the Treaty of Waitangi promises signatories protection.
And as the Treaty has dealt with items like television and radio bands and rights to them, and other matters not conceived or discovered at the time of signing, the entitlement to the protection of a covid vaccine should be obvious and straight forward.
Any obligation to participate is a different question, and people like Māori party co-leader Rawiri Waititi could consider where he stands in terms of Treaty protection and any “duty” of partnership.

In a full outbreak, like current Papua New which has seen coronavirus cases skyrocket, with fears it could push the health system to breaking point – a country that avoided the worst of covid, but finally got hit – New Zealand could see a vast swarth cut through Maori elders and Pacific Islanders (as has happened to Pacific people, worst hit of all minorities in Los Angeles) if the disease gets a real foothold.

At present the only protection the Crown can offer Maori (and all New Zealanders) is a covid vaccination or continued national isolation, which will slowly economically destroy the country any way.

So, why is the Treaty, which is paramount in almost every matter of New Zealand’s government, not mentioned in relation to the covid pandemic? While it determines shares in broadcast transmission bands, is irrelevant in the case of covid.

While some may reject the “protection” offered, will they also the reject the “partnership” that suggests urging their elders and others at risk to “protect” themselves. Or will they spread colonialist conspiracy ideas?
Is the Treaty a “living document”, Rawiri Waititi, or just a dead real estate agreement, and badly written at that?
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March 21, 2021 9:33am
- kowtow
  
  Interesting about PI badly hit in LA .
  
  I wonder what factors such as obesity , living conditions etc may contribute …..
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:51am
  - Yvette
    
    Kowtow
    In L.A. County, Pacific Islanders suffer the highest infection rate of any racial or ethnic group, more than 2,500 per 100,000 residents. That’s six times higher than for white people, five times higher than for Black people and three times higher than for Latinos, according to county health demographic data that exclude Long Beach and Pasadena, which have their own health departments.
    Health experts say the reasons are similar to why Black people and Latinos are falling ill and dying at higher rates: reduced access to healthcare; higher levels of poverty; crowded housing; multigenerational households that make it more difficult to physically distance or quarantine; and higher rates of underlying health conditions that increase risk for severe illness from COVID-19, such as heart and lung disease, asthma and diabetes. Many Pacific Islanders also work in front-line jobs, such as food service, hospitality and healthcare, at which they are more likely to contract the virus and bring it home.
    – https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-19/california-pacific-islander-native-hawaiian-communities-hit-hard-by-coronavirus
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:04pm
  - [email protected]
    
    It makes sense for PI and other more susceptible people in areas where Covid19 is spreading to take an experimental vaccine that so far appears to be safe.
    
    My question is, why should anyone take an experimental vaccine in a country such as New Zealand when Covid19 is NOT a problem? I am 73 years old and more than happy to let others have my shot! In a year or so I am happy to take my Covid19 vaccine if people that have volunteered to be guinea pigs are not negatively affected.
    
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    March 21, 2021 8:00pm
- Paulus
  
  With all that huge amount of various Vaccine that we have paid for are all the children eventually to be vaccinated. The view is now being aired.
  Some mothers also talking that they want their whole whanau all done first too !
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:01am
  - virtualmark
    
    All drugs, including vaccines, including these COVID vaccines, are tested first in adults. Testing in children starts only once it’s clear that the drug is safe in adults.
    
    So Phase III trials of the COVID vaccines in children have only just begun. Rough estimate is that it will be end of this year before they are approved for use in children.
    
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    March 21, 2021 11:20am
- Charmaine Hawke
  
  For the first time, and I suspect the only time, I am in full agreement with Mr Waititi he is right it is up to each of us to decide if we plan to take this untested gene therapy because even the manufacturer does not call it a vaccine.
  We are told is is safe and approved but the part they leave out is that it is approved for emergency use and in the case of Phizer the trial ends in 2023. To anyone who wants to partake in a vaccine trial I wish you well but I plan to let my immune system do what it is designed to do and allow it to keep me healthy.
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:21am
  - virtualmark
    
    I agree that everyone, including you, is free to make their own decisions. But …
    
    2.7 million people let their immune system do what it is designed to do. And they’re now dead. At least double that number again have major long-term complications.
    
    Meanwhile there are vaccines that are effective and, from observation, safe.
    
    Just because everyone is free to make their own decisions does not mean that all will choose wisely.
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:26pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      And around 85% of those lives could have been saved, had not poisonous politics got in the way of using proven prophylactic treatment prior to hospitalisation.
      
      May 75%, as it did take some time for appropriate trials to be run, but using well known and safe (with known limitations) drugs even before trials were completed would have turned this from a world-wide disaster into a serious but manageable issue.
      
      Pity those directly responsible for that politicisation will never be held responsible for all those deaths.
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:26pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Ed, are you suggesting that doctors and other medical staff intentionally gave sub-optimal care? Do you really believe that doctors chose not to give their patients the best available medicines?
        
        Because you can rabbit on all you like about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and whatever other conspiracy you like. I have no dog in that race. But I really struggle to believe that if doctors thought those medications worked that they would then decide “But I’m not going to use them on my patients”. More likely the dispassionate facts are that those medications are not the magic bullets you think they are.
        
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        March 21, 2021 5:25pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The Nuremberg laws protect us from experimentation. The genetic modifiers called “vaccines” have not been tested adequately and can only be given by consent of the individual concerned.
    I believe their misdescription renders them non-compliant with the Medicines Act.
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:38pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Someone doesn’t know what the Nuremberg Laws were…
      
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      March 21, 2021 12:44pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Kev O’B means the Nuremberg Code /Nürnberger Kodex
        
        https://www.imarcresearch.com/blog/bid/359393/nuremberg-code-1947
        
        https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199711133372006
        
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        March 21, 2021 4:13pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        They refer to the outcome of the Nuremburg Trials.
        They are enshrined in the Unesco international agreements.
        
        (This is all post-Hitler for our wannabe fact checkers.)
        
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        March 21, 2021 4:24pm
      - Mike
        
        Perhaps you should try to be more precise with your terminology.
        
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        March 21, 2021 4:31pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Should have been BLOODY OBVIOUS.
        
        Kevin O’Brien was talking about experiments on humans.
        
        Perhaps the expert trolls need to check out the Nuremberg Doctors ‘ Trial
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctors%27_trial
        
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        March 21, 2021 9:43pm
    - SB2
      
      The laws were written by Hitler and passed by the Nazi Reichstag designed to do two things,’
      
      1. Deprive Jews of all their rights
      
      2. Forbid interracial marriage between non-Jews and Jews
      
      https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nurnberg-Laws
      
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      March 21, 2021 2:20pm
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Wrong again.
        
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        March 21, 2021 4:24pm
      - SB2
        
        Well KevO’Brien, somebody like you needs to be much clearer about what Nurnberg laws they are referring to.
        
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        March 21, 2021 8:07pm
- Master Mariner
  
  Due to inadequate and opaque Vaccine roll out so far i think the narrative is changing to “why” we cant open the borders.
  
  “At present the only protection the Crown can offer Maori (and all New Zealanders) is a covid vaccination or continued national isolation, which will slowly economically destroy the country any way.”
  
  Heres the thing.
  For travel bubbles to happen we will need,
  1. 70 % vaccinated.
  2. Vaccination passport ( yellow fever card)
  3 Similar agreements between countries ie Singapore /Australia/ Malaysia etc
  
  By the time NZ get 60% vaccinated then I’m guessing most countries will be rolling out the second vaccine roll out.
  It has become convenient to play the race card for vaccinations and lay blame there for there negligence in vaccinating NZ’ers.
  
  They really want to keep NZ locked away and last thing they want is open borders.
  
  What other reason is there ?
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:27pm
  - Nickc2
    
    I think this lot are pissed with the power they wield and don’t want to relinquish it under any circumstances unless there is something else to replace it.
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:06pm
  - SB2
    
    “They really want to keep NZ locked away and last thing they want is open borders.”
    
    Bollux!
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:25pm
  - virtualmark
    
    I don’t believe there is a single politician in New Zealand who wants to keep NZ locked away, and who doesn’t want open borders.
    
    How about the reason for the slow vaccine rollout here is that the vaccine manufacturers are prioritising deliveries to countries that have (far) worse medical crisis than we face here.
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:28pm
Happychappy

Wow it is like the New Media are upset with the no show of the Prime Minister since the she actually commented on the One News Colmar Political Poll.
So the question has to be has the worm started to turn and has this bought on panic attacks for or Prime Minister that has been noticed by her absence at Parliament and other Venues the crowds gathered at over the past week.
The worm has started to move amongst a couple of Journalists with stories under the pay wall like this headline.
Liam Dann : Grant Robertson’s $10 Billion Delemma is this what we need to head off recession.
Then we have this from Heather De Plesses- Allen : Kiwis won’t stand for another in New Zealand only bubble.
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March 21, 2021 9:48am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I’m seeing a lot of anger. If this trans tasman bubble is not in place by mid April there is going to be a rebellion..
  
  Last week Air New Zealand announced twice weekly flights to Hobart as soon as the bubble opens. Tasmania has not had any community transmission of covid for several months. As soon as those flights start they will be full in both directions. I doubt that direct Hobart flights are viable long term but for at least the rest of the year they will be full. And not allowing these flights right now is criminal stupidity.
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Jaspinda will not allow this. Why do you think she has gone underground? The heat is on.
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:20pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “Community outbreak” in 3-2-1………….
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:04pm
- MCos
  
  That headline from the article by HDPA is the safest of safe bets, but will never be tested, barring a string of highly unlikely occurrences.
  (Could have said the same thing fifteen months ago.)
  
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  March 21, 2021 10:32am
Maggy Wassilieff

Watch your punctuation, folks…

https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-lecturer-sacked-because-of-excessive-punctuation-wins-15k-pay-out-20210319
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March 21, 2021 10:00am
- peterwn
  
  Reading between the lines there seemed more to it than punctuation marks and his removal seemed to be in the best interests of the Hall ans its residents. Also the position was ‘secondary employment’, he did not lost his lecturer position. The payout should have been zilch, or at best (from his point of view) one or two thousand quid, not 15,000 quid.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:20pm
softail 1450

Has DPF reported yet how much better Joe Biden is compared to Trump, asking for a friend .?
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March 21, 2021 10:10am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxaxXgOe7Hc

Biden-Putin Debate. Not.

US President Joe Biden was challenged for a live, one-on-one debate by his Russian counterpart – Vladimir Putin but he emphatically refused the courteous challenge. China Joe is too busy to debate Putin.
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March 21, 2021 10:11am
- virtualmark
  
  1. US Presidents don’t debate with dictators. Full stop.
  2. Biden debated with Putin’s middleman last year. That “former guy” was hospitalised at Walter Reed within a week of the debate and had to send out proof of life videos just to let the USA know he was still alive.
  
  But interesting that you seem to support Russia. Count me not surprised.
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:24am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    He’s one of the ‘Better Russian than a Democrat’ crowd.
    
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    March 21, 2021 12:20pm
    - Ed Snack
      
      And you are one of the sheep who still likes to pretend that Trump was in anyway compromised by Putin.
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:37pm
      - Mike
        
        I’m just pointing out that there are Americans sufficiently deluded to prefer a foreign dictator to politicians from their opposing domestic political party.
        
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        March 21, 2021 4:23pm
      - virtualmark
        
        Ed, people were writing books about Trump’s links to the Russians back in the early 2000s. The KGB began cultivating him in the mid-1980s.
        
        I am impressed how well you can type with your head stuck that deep in the sand though.
        
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        March 21, 2021 5:30pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Russian asset since the 1980s. After his first trip to Russia, he began spouting their propaganda.
        
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        March 21, 2021 6:19pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Wasn’t a “debate” that’s not what Putin suggested. It was an on-line discussion of the issues.
    
    Putin of course had a sub-text as he stated that “people may learn something…”. That is the joke, they’d learn that Creepy Joe is no longer capable of such an exchange. Joe would need pre-scripted questions with prepared answers available for him to read.
    
    Putin just trashed Biden in the eyes of anyone but the Biden sycophants who cling to the irrational belief that Joe is somehow NOT neurologically compromised.
    
    Plus Blinken getting his arse handed to him on a platter by the Chinese, not a good day for Joe and his handlers was it.
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:31pm
    - virtualmark
      
      Why would Biden “debate” with Putin?
      
      When have you ever seen a US President “debate” with a foreign leader?
      
      Putin said what he did to push the buttons of people just like you. Not to push Biden’s buttons … to push Ed Snack’s buttons.
      
      It worked.
      
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      March 21, 2021 5:32pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oANB31uZLz0

Is the US Breaking Apart?

The political divide in the United States is at an all time high. And some red counties in blue states want to break off to become their own states. The divide between conservative values and liberal values, over issues like abortion, immigration, and gun control are fueling what’s called state partition proposals. But is this possible? And will the new country of Cascadia be formed? Or are we headed to another American Civil War?
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March 21, 2021 10:11am
- mikenmildagain
  
  No, no, and no.
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:20pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Most “conservative” types just want to be left alone. The “liberal” types tend to like nagging, shaming, interfering and regulating others. The problem is when the “liberals” move to “conservative” states after the “liberal” policies they supported in their home states fail. If any states become independent countries, there will have to be some kind of “political values purity test” when it comes to immigrants. I don’t know how that could work, but you can’t allow people into your country who will then undermine and ultimately destroy your society.
  
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  March 21, 2021 5:37pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Welcome to NZ. If you want to turn it into a shit hole like the one you just left, we will borrow some money to assist you to do it.
    
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    March 21, 2021 9:26pm
Maggie Pie

If Ellen thinks…. “White Men are the problem in America”

Then why does she try so hard to look like one?

https://twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/1372968531294261249
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March 21, 2021 10:19am
Loddenthinks

Fairly typically, the only people determined to make the case that the murder of 8 people in the US was “a racist hate crime” are the real racists themselves.

In every piece I’ve read or watched on these awful crimes, the description of the perp is “a white man”. Imagine if the reverse were the case, as it is hundreds of times every day in the US, and the perp was immediately and always described as “a black man”?

That’s right, we only get to read about black men being the victims.
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March 21, 2021 10:39am
- MCos
  
  “Imagine if the reverse were the case, as it is hundreds of times every day in the US”
  I’m wasn’t aware of any examples of a black man killing eight people, six of whom were asian, let alone hundreds of times a day.
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:04am
  - Tall Man
    
    Not what he said.
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:01pm
lilman

Went to concert last night in NewPlymouth,Crowded House, okay ,not great,but a night out.

Saw a group of Teachers ,who taught my 3 eldest, asked them how the like their woke PM and all her bullshit.
Talk about sulking and death stares.
I reminded them about houses for all,waiting lists and the fact that they were on full pay whilst in lockdown where they did bugger all.
Talk about bad language,lol, made the night go quicker.
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March 21, 2021 10:43am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You must be fun at parties.
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:21pm
  - Tall Man
    
    You go to parties????
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:57pm
  - lilman
    
    lol,yep love getting up wokes and lame arses.
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:59pm
    - MCos
      
      You love what?
      
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      March 21, 2021 6:47pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Confessing his innermost desires?
        
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        March 21, 2021 10:46pm
- Okahu
  
  I bet it’s every teacher’s dream to go out with friends and have some noddy harangue them about what he/she imagines is their political stance. Perhaps the death stares were ‘not this arsehole again’ looks. Have you ever been baled up by a complete arsehole and just wished you could flee but wondered why you had too? Did you try a ‘death stare’?
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:11pm
  - lilman
    
    Okahu,i cant stand Teachers ,they are left leaning, they decide whats right for a child and take actions without consulting the actual Parents.
    I give them shit every chance I can.
    
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    March 21, 2021 6:02pm
- Nutta
  
  I’ve got to the point that I just say it now, and bugger the response. Unless we start calling this stuff out, the country is doomed. If it’s not already.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:25pm
- Okahu
  
  I bet it’s every teacher’s dream to go out with friends and have some noddy harangue them about what he imagines is their political stance. Perhaps the death stares were ‘not this arsehole again’ looks. Have you ever been baled up by a complete arsehole and just wished you could flee but wondered why you had too?
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:34pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    Actually, yes. They were a teacher and wanted to lecture me on white privilege and racism. Why do you ask ?
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:40pm
    - Okahu
      
      Sweet Jeebers. You were there too? If one of those teachers had pulled out a can of Maggie Pies oven cleaner and given the two of you pests a spray…now that would be a teaching moment. My advice would be to take your concerns to the school, or the board, or the ministry. Please don’t get in teachers faces when they’ve paid good money for a night out with friends. It makes you look like a pair of rabid ideologues with a bone to chew and zero social graces.
      
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      March 21, 2021 4:41pm
      - lilman
        
        Okahu, rabid ideologues, lol seriously, teachers are overpaid and need to chopped at every opportunity.
        
        Bugger them,they dont think twice to go on strike when they want more money,they are, in my humble opinion failed and incapable of rational and constructive thought.
        Never let them off.
        
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        March 21, 2021 6:05pm
- Inandout
  
  lil, I would have sounded them out first by asking why kids are so poor at maths. Then when their guard was down would probe further. As an aside why was ‘Crowded House’ allowed to be featured in these times of 2 metre spacing?
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

New post on BB&H

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-reddell-on-house-prices
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March 21, 2021 10:50am
- Tall Man
  
  Accurate assessment as always.
  
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  March 21, 2021 3:00pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Covid-19 spread by rubbish bin lids rubbished by Assoc Prof Wiles

https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/20-03-2021/siouxsie-wiles-the-great-covid-bin-lid-mystery-solved/
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March 21, 2021 10:54am
- Brian McDonald
  
  That’s interesting Maggy as well as plausible. Soon there might be researched results on how long a virus may hang in the air and under what conditions.
  
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  March 21, 2021 11:08am
- Tall Man
  
  I would say that the habit of spitting into a rubbish bin as recommended in parts of Asia may have an impact….
  
  “Use a tissue paper to hold your spit
  and discard it into a bin with a lid.”
  
  https://ezyspit.in/spitting-bin/
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:56pm
Gulag1917

Talking to a Venezuelan who stated that the Bolivar has gone from 42 bolivars to the US dollar twenty years ago to one million bolivars to the US dollar now. Military checkpoints throughout the nation demand a fee before transport can proceed. The military ignore the poor and hungry. People are jailed, killed and disappear. The opposition are playing a double game, they appear to be against the government but are often working with the government which makes it dangerous for people who disagree with the government.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/17/americas/venezuela-drug-cocaine-trafficking-intl/index.html
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March 21, 2021 11:10am
RockyJ

I love this quote from a book I am reading. It made me think of our government: “It is perhaps inherent in the logic of history that ideologies are almost invariably debased on contact with political action, and that the higher the ambition of the ideology, and the more drastic the contemplated action, the more likely is the debasement in action”.
The book is ‘Soviet Tragedy: A History of Socialism in Russia’ by Martin Malia.
We are in for a wild ride, folks
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March 21, 2021 11:23am
Maggie Pie

Policeman stabbed while attending ‘family harm’ incident
Police cars set alight in secure carpark.

Like my partner observed….just another weekend in Christchurch for the Cop on the beat. Whatever happened to the word ‘RESPECT’?
The whole country is unravelling under this weak on crime Government.
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March 21, 2021 11:46am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It is also weak on law. Land law seems to superseded by activists desires which the Police have been denied the right to frustrate.
  No wonder criminals are getting bolder.
  
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  March 21, 2021 12:45pm
- kowtow
  
  Starts early.
  
  ‘A rural high school teacher with an “exemplary” 28-year record has been censured for using force against a Year 10 student who threatened to kill him.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/teacher-censured-using-force-student-who-threatened-kill-him
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:53pm
- SB2
  
  Brenton Tarrant?
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:35pm
Jack5

On Radio NZ today, a talk about extremism and censorship.

I’ve started to listen, but, as a point of interest, did Radio NZ match the report of the Christchurch Star this week: final name suppression for a young Muslim who planned to massacre Christchurch citizens in a car and knife attack – before the mosques terrorism? An interesting and widely followed case in part because the offender was given a non-custodial sentence during which he was given golf lessons. And was it reported on Stuff?

Back to the Red Radio broadcast today: an early speaker is Kate Hannah, of Auckland University’s “Te Punaha Matatini” research centre – the one from whence come the pink-haired Covid commentator Siouxsie Wiles and her fellow Covid commentator Shaun Hendy.

Hannah’s words on security and censorship:

“We are not listening in the right palace. We are not listening to the right people. I can say as a public servant that Government’s really, really White, and really, really middle class. Terrifingly so …

” …. there are really a lot of White people who are policy analysts.”

Then the programme gets really interesting. The vast power being given to the unelected Chief Censor, including Natioanl MPs Bridge and Lee’s warning on impending legislation.

Shanks compares big internet platforms to the oil giants of the past.

Asked about powers the Censor will be given to take down internet material – right down to posts like this on blogs, Shanks indicated he believed there was increasing violent extremist or “extremist thought”.

Shanks said on the Capitol riot in Washington, he spent a day monitoring every feed he could to track what was happening.

These comments are from the first 16 minutes of the programme.

The broadcast:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/audio/player?audio_id=2018788055
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March 21, 2021 12:01pm
- SB2
  
  Jack 5, don’t you think we need to be grateful that there are groups like Paparoa who monitor far right extremism on diverse social media and other platforms like Channel 4. There someone outlined their plans to car bomb the Christchurch Mosques.
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/437940/person-who-alerted-police-to-mosque-threat-had-met-man-arrested
  
  I would say there a fair few around as unhinged as him and that reasonable precautions need to be made. BTW Precautions that won’t stop you and me and others from continuing posting here on KB and elsewhere
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:50pm
  - Jack5
    
    Yep, SB2, but did you notice if RNZ, or Stuff, reported the final appearance of the young man who planned to massacre Christchurch citizens in a car and knife attack? I couldn’t find any report except in last week’s edition of the Christchurch free newspaper, The Star.
    
    His offending occurred before the mosques terrorism.
    
    The young man’s name in the end was permanently suppressed. He had not been imprisoned.
    
    You would think this was of added interest to RNZ and Stuff (especially its Christchurch readers) given the mosques terrorism.
    
    It would also be a guide to what might happen to the offender(s?) you mention in your 2.50pm post.
    
    Or are there to be secret trials and secret sentences?
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:26pm
    - SB2
      
      Jack5 , do you mean this RNZ report?
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391261/radicalised-chch-teen-imprisoned-after-breaching-supervision
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:59pm
      - Jack5
        
        No: the final report this week, with name suppression being made permanent.
        
        Like this one from the Christchurch Star, which was written for it by the Herald’s man in the city.
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/christchurch-teen-radicalised-online-and-plotted-terror-attack-completes
        
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        March 21, 2021 8:12pm
Maggie Pie

Just been making duck-breast & orange marmalade rolls while listening to the ‘Political Hour’ on Magic’s….. Sunday Cafe.

Is it just me, or do I detect there may be love-in-the- air between Chloe Swarbrick and David Seymour?
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March 21, 2021 12:09pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Chloe is engaged to a chick
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:01pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    May have been to Conversion Therapy perhaps?
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:28pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Sounds like a winner for David then 😉
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:46pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Maybe its a 3 way relationship
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:06pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Bantam or rooster?
    
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    March 21, 2021 4:47pm
- Nickc2
  
  AFIK, Chloe bats for the other side.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:17pm
- kowtow
  
  Sean Plunket was also somewhat “struck” by her , can’t see wot the fuss is about .
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:49pm
- SB2
  
  David Seymour’s problem is he’s far too reptilian to look at.
  
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  March 21, 2021 3:32pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Oh, and you’re an oil painting are you?
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:34pm
Chuck Bird

Many of you National and some ACT. For those in the Waikato who are prepared to do more than talk on a blog, Dr Shane Reti will be talking twice in Hamilton this Monday. He of course will be talking Covid and the trans-Tasman bubble.

Morning tea will cost $15 and dinner will cost $35. If anyone is interested mail me at [email protected] and I will send you the details.
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March 21, 2021 12:45pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Dr Shane Reti will be talking twice
  
  Is that the same thing as double talk?
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:31pm
  - Ed Snack
    
    No, he’s not a Labour member…
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:43pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Actually talking with people or just reading out loud a pre-prepared speech we could probably read faster ourselves online?
  
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  March 21, 2021 5:40pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

No it was not the wind. We inherited broken stairs from the previous administration – Psaki.
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March 21, 2021 1:28pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I’m not entirely convinced Joe Biden is a real person.
  
  Just saying.
  
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  March 21, 2021 1:34pm
  - artemisia
    
    Thinking that myself, but then if he/she/it is a hologram then programming him/her/it to fall up the stairs three times was deliberate.
    
    I feel a conspiracy theory coming on.
    
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    March 21, 2021 1:51pm
  - Inandout
    
    Maggie, CGI is getting scarily close to being human.
    https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/23/photos/194000/936×622/150194.jpg
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:03pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Neither is joe ….
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:44pm
  - SB2
    
    Nor Trump for that matter,
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/07/donald-trump-hair-wind
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:52pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      You are so jealous.
      Little girls at the mall like bald people like you?
      Stupid boy.
      
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      March 21, 2021 4:40pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Is Biden the first or an early transhuman? (See Karl Schwab.)
    
    The World Economic Forum (a.k.a NWO) head has announced such plans in his recent book. Elon Musk has already demonstrated prototypes.
    
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    March 21, 2021 4:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why would bureaucrats in the Hutt City Council take fire extinguishers out of public buildings?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/124578165/strong-language-wont-stop-flames-says-staffer-as-council-removes-fire-extinguishers

Why is the Council employing staff who are incapable of learning how to use a fire extinguisher?
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March 21, 2021 1:55pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This is why they work for the council and not in the private sector. Pull the fucking pin and squeeze handle. How thick can they be?? In the trade industry this would never happen
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:40pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Seems like downtickers must like getting burnt. As a burn victim with 3 grafts, I can tell you it is no fun – you wanks
    
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    March 21, 2021 2:56pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    All along the S.Korean subways you can find free-standing fire extinguishers.
    No-one thieves them or bashes other folk with them.
    
    It is assumed that if a fire is discovered the nearest person will take action and try and put it out before it becomes a raging inferno.
    
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Busan_City_hall_2010.JPG/300px-Busan_City_hall_2010.JPG
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:12pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Yes Maggy, but they’re not idiots 😉
      
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      March 21, 2021 7:14pm
      - sooty
        
        Wonder what the fireman has to say and it would now fail the building WOF!
        
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        March 21, 2021 10:06pm
- V
  
  I hope the council checked their insurance policy first, they may be in breach of fire code and now not covered.
  
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  March 21, 2021 6:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Yep, those stairs again.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/26lcyu470lhsmjg/Biden%20Stairs.jpg?dl=0
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March 21, 2021 2:07pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING TWITTER….

Tweet of Biden falling up the stairs has now had more than 43,000,000 views!

That escalated quickly 😀
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March 21, 2021 2:09pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sometimes I wonder who writes your material, but it can’t be a leftie, they are born without humour
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:48pm
- SB2
  
  43 million who haven’t got much better things to do.
  
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  March 21, 2021 2:54pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You mean like the ’87 million’ that supposedly voted for Joe 😀
    
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    March 21, 2021 3:12pm
    - SB2
      
      MP, it’s known as facing reality,
      
      https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/937248659/president-elect-biden-hits-80-million-votes-in-year-of-record-turnout
      
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      March 21, 2021 3:25pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  He is reported as attempting them two at a time!
  That would take Elon Musk’s microchip enhancements. (Biden, transhuman? )
  
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  March 21, 2021 4:39pm
Inandout

Replying to Okahu at 12.01pm, the Washington elite such as Nancy Pelosi has accumulated wealth not through her meagre salary but through other means. She is not the only wealth creator among the politicians and then we have public servants in Washington who enjoy cozy relationships with contractors. Just do a bit of digging yourself.
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March 21, 2021 2:19pm
- SB2
  
  Inandout, it would help if you could illuminate us with some factual material and links.
  
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  March 21, 2021 3:27pm
- Okahu
  
  Are you able to provide some evidence of actual wrong doing. I mean if her share portfolio had performed well should that count against her? And since this is apparently a concern of yours, can we safely assume that this an allegation that Republicans are immune from? Or are you making your (thus far) unsupported smears on the basis of a party political bias?
  
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  March 21, 2021 4:23pm
  - Inandout
    
    Why should I do your digging, but try here.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/obama-era-officials-return-white-house-worth-millions/story?id=76582015
    Being inside the tent has future advantages.
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:24pm
Master Mariner

How the hell can you permanently eliminate it. ?

“Singapore has a COVID-19 containment strategy, while the eradication strategies in Australia and New Zealand mean if there’s a single community case they do not permit domestic travel and often implement snap lockdowns,” he said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-air-travel-bubbles-take-off-burst-experts-14444842
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March 21, 2021 2:40pm
Jack5

Interesting new video on Maori language on Youtube.

It’s in the Langfocus languages series, which has 1.15 million subscribers.

This video, put up in the last 24 hours, is an introduction to Maori grammar, which doesn’t get a lot of attention compared with Maori vocabulary.

Grammar? Yes, grammar, but not in the “grammar grind” tradition.

It will interest anyone curious about languages, or someone who is curious only about Maori language.

The narrator, Paul, makes makes grammar and linguistics entertaining.

https://youtu.be/ahw4pa-9v8k
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March 21, 2021 3:18pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Te Reo is a dead language as it is limited in general use to 1840 useages. Two divergent societies never became one and the language of the indigenous population was inadequate for the developing 19th-20th centuries to keep up in.
  
  Other Polynesian neighbours without our mixed society had to add English to their national language mix and become generally bi-lingual to fix that.
  We have nothing to gain by adding Te Reo except angst.
  
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  March 21, 2021 4:35pm
  - Inandout
    
    KO, ‘adding’ Maori to English creates pidgin. A language with a vocabulary of around 1000 words pre European settlers is a very basic start. Bloody difficult to find any reference to the original Maori vocab. but I have heard it wasn’t many.
    
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    March 21, 2021 5:32pm
- ISeeRed
  
  I’m interested in learning te reo if I don’t get any stern lectures or snide put-downs about colonialism, imperialism, racism, etc. because of my light skin. (My “tangata whenua” come from Scotland and know all about being invaded, occupied and conquered, thank you.)
  
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  March 21, 2021 5:44pm
70andstilllearning

So Tvnz said yes, whatever you say ma’am – thanks for the money.
$tuff said – let’s go the indigenous way.
Newshub/Discov have just said lets try the gender way ( watch out Dunc boy, Tov’s got eyes on your slot).

Wonders what angle Horrid’s going to try?
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March 21, 2021 3:41pm
Maggie Pie

NZH trending….

Auckland Councilor Efeso Collins is calling on TVNZ to scrap ‘Police 10/7’
He maintains the reality programme “feeds on racial stereotypes ….particularly of young brown men being brutish”

Oh well, we can always head into Queen Street of a night and watch the show live.
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March 21, 2021 4:26pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Too far to walk from Manakau
  
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  March 21, 2021 4:35pm
- Papalazarou
  
  Apparently the govt has taken over a couple of inner city backpackers for emergency housing. As evidenced by aggro hobos outside. Just another nail in the coffin for the central city. I don’t get the sense Goof or Chloe have any interest in or understanding of what a mess it has become.
  
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  March 21, 2021 5:56pm
  - kowtow
    
    All those Labour Green latte lapping inner city bright young things can now live with the consequences of their voting patterns.
    
    I feel sorry for the people who didn’t vote for the leftards.
    
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    March 21, 2021 6:53pm
cmm

Stuff doing their best to help destroy science in NZ…

Why does anyone add a picture to an article? There is only one valid reason – to improve the information content of the article.

So why put in a photo of a comet in an article about an asteroid?

The asteroid is approx 2 million km away and is around magnitude 11 and will only be seen with the aid of an 8 inch telescope. Nothing at all like the photo.

Bloody muppets – these are the people we’re supposed to believe when complex issues are being discussed and they can’t even get kiddy-level science right.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/science/300258114/largest-asteroid-of-the-year-about-to-pass-earth
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March 21, 2021 4:58pm
- Inandout
  
  cmm, very few NZers watch or read stuff when all this info is online.
  
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  March 21, 2021 5:34pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Your complaint seems petty but it’s emblematic of the gradual degradation of educational standards and general knowledge. It’s like a river slowly eroding the bedrock over millions of years. Day-to-day, the changes are imperceptible, but a channel becomes a gully, then a gorge and eventually a canyon.
  
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  March 21, 2021 6:20pm
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  Yup, a relatively small rock 800M or so diameter is not easy to spot a million or two km away. Even with a telescope you would have to know where to look because it will not appear to be moving.
  
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  March 21, 2021 7:24pm
- SB2
  
  cmm, Suff is at perfect liberty to visualize what an asteroid may look like as most like this one are tiny.
  
  I think your carping and being niggly.
  
  But maybe MSM Business Insider has got the right idea,
  
  https://www.businessinsider.in/science/space/news/an-asteroid-twice-as-big-as-the-statue-of-unity-is-set-to-zoom-past-earth-tonight-flying-at-100000-kmph/articleshow/81610030.cms
  
  You may evnr write to Stuff telling them.
  
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