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October 6, 2021 12:00pm by David Farrar

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Another good humorous videoing skewering James Shaw for his pending flight with 14 staff to Glasgow.

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SteveEEE

Ah, the highly influential Greens and their intrepid leader Shaw just really, really have to go to Glasgow to flex their muscle. The Ego has landed. . .it’s not enough that they want to screw up the New Zealand economy for no good purpose. They want bragging rights. Sigh.
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October 6, 2021 12:06pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Like the UN they will get speaking rights after everyone else has left.
  
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  October 6, 2021 12:45pm
PaulL

In the Green world view (and many people I speak to, including seeing it written in newspapers), the logic is that we need global agreements because it’s a global problem. It’s OK to spend a bit of carbon if it leads to a deal that net reduces carbon – if NZ isn’t represented at this major international conference then our views won’t be heard. I’m somewhat sympathetic to this view, but then again, I’m not a rabid global warming alarmist.

The rest of the country see it a bit differently. We’re being told it’s an existential crisis and absolutely everything has to be done. It’s not enough to offset your emissions, your emissions must shrink, and must shrink rapidly.

Our farmers have the lowest greenhouse gas emissions per kg of animal protein in the world. So much lower than the second lowest (Ireland) that we can make a pound of butter and ship it to Ireland with still lower emissions than they can make butter. And they’re second best in the world. Any reduction in NZ butter production will increase carbon emissions of the world. It’s illogical to be the only country in the world applying emissions standards to farming, both because we’re punishing our farming sector, and because it’s net negative to the world. But the fundamentalists insist it must happen. Everything can be sacrificed.

In that world, people look askance when it turns out that you can actually make priority choices, trade off this against that. You can say “but for that conference, a zoom isn’t the same, I’ll fly to it.” So now we’ve agreed that climate change isn’t an existential crisis, it’s a series of tradeoffs. And really, we’re just arguing about the Green’s tradeoffs being different than mine. They think it’s important for Shaw and 14 hangers on to fly to a conference. I think it’s important to drive my V8 SUV (but I have pretty low emissions in other areas of my life). Who’s to say their tradeoffs are more important than mine?

Of course, the normal way we sort things out like this is with prices. The person who’ll pay the most gets to emit, because their use is highest value. Greens hate prices. They like inefficient central government controls, even though they result in less emissions reductions than properly thought through tools (like the ETS).

In short, hypocrisy, idiocy, hubris. All the reasons people don’t like Greens.
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October 6, 2021 12:21pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  So let’s go carbon zero.
  
  World emmissions will drop by less than .5% and only if nobody else increases.
  
  Super great saved the world not.
  
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  October 6, 2021 12:51pm
- Paulus
  
  New 16 year old will all vote for it though and Greens will be paramount.
  
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  October 6, 2021 1:17pm
- 103PapPap
  
  My gas bill has just gone up 8.65% because of the rising costs of the Emissions Trading costs.
  
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  October 6, 2021 2:01pm
- cmm
  
  “Our farmers have the lowest greenhouse gas emissions per kg of animal protein in the world. So much lower than the second lowest (Ireland) that we can make a pound of butter and ship it to Ireland with still lower emissions than they can make butter.”
  
  Yup, and that is if you use their accounting methods (which are activist biased towards farmers are BAD)!
  
  Butter is almost pure fat (a negligible amount of water and milk solids). Fat is 80% carbon.
  
  Each gram of carbon is made by photosynthesizing 3.66g of CO2.
  
  Thus making one kg of butter removes 2.93 kg of CO2 from the atmosphere.
  
  At the current carbon price of $US65 per ton of CO2 (NB CO2, not carbon), a ton of butter should be earning a farmer almost $US200 of carbon credits.
  
  That is what science (ie. chemistry and biology) tells us. Of course the activists are saying cows create CO2 and farmers should be paying but they are not using science.
  
  PS: I made a previous posting a week or two about farmers and ETS and got the numbers wrong because I though the price was for carbon. It is not. The price is for CO2. That means my old numbers were off by a factor of 3.66.
  
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  October 6, 2021 2:14pm
- Prince
  
  If Shaw had rejected the invitation, saying he refused to fly half way around the world for a talk fest, when we have technology that surpasses these 20th Century boondoggles, it would have gained more coverage and made more impact than he and his 14 adherents wandering around the ‘breakout’ sessions.
  
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  October 6, 2021 4:07pm
- Bloody Dago
  
  [Deleted, and a week holiday for advocating violence and harm to a MP. Mod.]
  
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  October 6, 2021 7:12pm
RiP NZ

Are we allowed to know who the participants are, and what role/ value they add to the trip?
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October 6, 2021 12:28pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

I watched a minute of the video, so you don’t have to. Waaay too much James Shaw.
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October 6, 2021 12:29pm
Scott

The problem is there is one law for the elites like James Shaw who can go on overseas junkets and get MIQ to return and one law for the rest of us who are constantly told to stay home.
We also note that Brian Tamaki and Co will be prosecuted for their protest the other day.
However we also note that Black Lives Matter held a huge protest last year under level 2, no crowds larger than 100. No charges were laid.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUqFuZIhMIJ/?utm_medium=copy_link
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October 6, 2021 12:38pm
Fisiani2

James Shaw could do a ZOOM meeting like all of us. He wants the adulation of the audience in Glasgow knowing he is a rank hypocrite and knows he has a guaranteed precious place in MIQ without having to take part in the obscene lottery.
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October 6, 2021 12:44pm
Humble Capitalist

The sort of smug face that if you saw walking down Tinakori Road……just joking Im not a violent man Mr Fawlty
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October 6, 2021 12:45pm
David Garrett

There were two highlights for me in that vid: Firstly Shaw beneficently congratulating the Marshall Islands for organizing a virtual summit using Zoom technology; second the shots of parked up private jets at Davos and in the US.

I wonder if people like Shaw ever lie awake at night wondering if they are hypocrites and frauds? Probably not.
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October 6, 2021 12:47pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I think they do – and don’t give a shit. What they have now is the only job they will ever have, freeloaders
  
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  October 6, 2021 2:17pm
potato

How many tons of farmers goods to we need to sell to collect the tax to send James and his mates on their jaunt, I would suggest the best thing James Offshore could do for the environment is resign.
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October 6, 2021 12:57pm
lastmanstanding

Shaw and the Greens like Labour dont believe the rules that apply to the rest of us apply to them. They are the ultimate hypocrites and two faced arseholes.
They remind me of the French Aristocrates in the late 18 Century who had their heads separated from the shoulders by the peasants.

ummmmmmmm……………………….now theres an idea!!!!!!
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October 6, 2021 12:59pm
altiora

Only one word to describe Shaw and his entourage: scum.
Lets hope they run into some citizens trying desperately to get home, but I expect that they’ll get hanging around in safety from the riff raff in business class lounges.
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October 6, 2021 1:03pm
Chuck Bird

My Green 6 liter Holden is going up in value. Thanks, James.
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October 6, 2021 1:33pm
andrewo

I recommend James visits the Torness Nuclear Power Station which is only about an hour by chauffeur driven limousine down the road from the conference venue.
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October 6, 2021 1:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He will take a chauffeur driven EV, after it has been charged up from a diesel generator. Apparently there will be 50, but no charging points hence the diesel generators
  
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  October 6, 2021 2:21pm
davidp

Hang on… Is Shaw FLYING to Glasgow? I assumed that he was going to sail there and back, like Greta T did when she visited America. Why is sailing good enough for Greta, but not good enough for Shaw? Hasn’t anyone told him that we’re in the middle of a climate emergency?

Why are Greens always such big polluters?
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October 6, 2021 1:41pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The same Greta whose parents flew in a crew to NY to sail the boat back to Europe?
  
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  October 6, 2021 2:22pm
  - davidp
    
    How dare you! You have stolen Greta’s dreams and her childhood with your empty words.
    
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    October 6, 2021 3:16pm
- rouppe
  
  Since it was a racing boat, all their personal human waste was tipped untreated directly into the ocean.
  
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  October 6, 2021 3:02pm
- gravedodger
  
  Sorry but the virtue signalling when Greta “sailed to the US was not quite how you stated it davidp the silly bint flew on to her next appointment and the yacht required a second crew flown to the US to retrieve it and sail it back to Europe, A few air miles there .
  
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  October 6, 2021 3:35pm
cmm

Frankly, I find this less than humourous.

Shaw tells blatant lies and is not called out by the media. He’s doing this because there’s a fat salary to pull for very little work and he can depend on the brainwashed to vote for him.
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October 6, 2021 1:55pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Yeah, I don’t think many of his supporters will mind the hypocrisy. They are happy enough for him to live it up and pull the big salary so long as he deals to those rich pricks and farmers when he gets home.
  
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  October 6, 2021 3:01pm
coge

“I’m Jimmy, fly me”
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October 6, 2021 2:37pm
Dave

Sailing there and back is really his only ethical option in terms of GHG. Also means he frees up MIQ spaces on his return
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October 6, 2021 2:45pm
Agricola

Damn. Downvoted you in error cmm. I agree with you. If your world view is one that treats people by different standards, whether it’s affirmative action programmes or excusing Palestinian terrorism , then it’s perfectly reasonable to apply those standards to one’s self, particularly when one is on the side of the angels. The end always justifies the means. To the progleft that’s just how it is, however unhinged and offensive it is to decent folks.
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October 6, 2021 3:11pm
hookerphil

“humorous videoing skewering James Shaw ”

No, far too much James hypocritical Shaw.
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October 6, 2021 5:11pm
Rich Prick

Fart Force Fifty Five.
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