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Warren

Covid-19: Sir Ian Taylor claims Associate Health Minister Ayesha Verrall tried to muzzle him.
So it seems the Labour Government wants to Govern by stealth and Sir Ian Taylor wasn’t having a bar of it, so he hung up on them.
At the beginning of a conference call with Ayesha Verrall after she asked him to stop writing ‘bad faith’columns in the Herald he also claimed she indicated that only Government or Government. approved agencies communicate publicly on anything to do with the self isolation program they were about to discuss.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-sir-ian-taylor-claims-associate-health-minister-ayesha-verall-tried-to-muzzle-him/OWRBD2R7C2IXSZJ2TRYZPVYPL4/
I looks like this Labour Government and their Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern want to stop leaks getting out about there incompetence which seems to be a daily occurrence nowadays.
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February 6, 2022 8:00am
- Yvette
  
  ■ Woman stuck in MIQ with hundreds of bugs not allowed to change rooms
  ■ Nobody even helps you’: Woman faints on plane to MIQ facility after telling staff she was too sick to fly
  ■ Northland woman deemed close contact forced to isolate in car after being told there was no space in MIQ
  
  – from Newshub this morning. in a block on their website page so the these headlines touch each other. Has Newshub gone rogue …
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:43am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I think the “M” in MIQ can be dropped. I also think I’d rather do a stint in prison than be government-handled into one of those dumps.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:56am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Yvette – Requests piling up for the next installment of the bribe. That is all
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:51am
- kevn
  
  @Warren… I always though Sir Ian Taylor was very restrained in his newspaper columns.
  ‘They’ seem to be offended.
  How odd.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    What happens when someone is offended? Nothing – be offended, nobody gives a shit
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:57am
    - Harriet
      
      That international company that makes chocolate etc. also makes a well known brand of dog biscuits, in a country very near to NZ.
      
      The people who make those biscuits get paid far more than the person who makes your coffee.
      Or who makes your meal in a cafe.
      Or who serves you that meal.
      And maybe paid more than HALF the people in those establishments who are customers.
      
      Probably because for most meals dogs still eat from a plate, and not from a box, bag or papercup. 😎
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:23am
  - Hacked-Off
    
    Point is now – Will Sir Ian go feral and really let the Government have it with both barrels. He appears to be his own Man and no ones puppet. Has Ayesha Verrall scored an own goal for the Government by her attempt to censor him. I sincerely hope so.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:41am
    - Nickc2
      
      [Deleted – unwarranted abuse. mod.]
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:08pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Sir Ian has given Verrall both barrels and taken her Dear Leader’s Waitangi syrup off the front page. There will have been bad language in the Beehive this morning.
      
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      February 6, 2022 2:49pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  ya vol, herr Commandant
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:45am
  - Michael Johnston
    
    It’s ‘ja wohl’. (Just so you know for future reference.)
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:37am
    - kowtow
      
      Da, tovarisch .
      
      Seein’ as how we’re dealing with Comrades , comrade.
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:06pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I just wrote it as it sounds on Hogan’s Heros
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:27pm
- ecco
  
  Interesting how the Ferald have made the article about Sir Ian Taylor hanging up on Verrall in their free section yet placed Sir Ian’s account of what happened and what he proposed in the premium section. Maybe the Ferald is finding Sir Ian’s articles about how things should be done if you are the government and also his shining the sunlight on a lot of the bumbling and obfuscation are actually what the Ferald readers actually want to read.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:55am
- ecco
  
  Verrall seems to be doing more work on covid than Andrew Little. Verrall does come across as the prototype angry, aggressive, but inept Labourite.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:57am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. She’s been watching Angry Andy, it seems.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:42am
    - kowtow
      
      I could feel the flecks of angry spittle coming through the wireless when he was on HDPA the other evening ……nine long years and all that .
      
      If he ever loses his job in politics or the unions he’d be great as one of those Looney Wind Up coaches who makes the players really angry before a game with tales of massacres and kitty killings in order to overwhelm your opponents , it seemed to work on H , as she was a wee bit coy during his onslaught , but she recovered when the brow beating ended …….
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:40am
  - Paulus
    
    Verrall is Medically very competent but as a Labour appointed politican in a number of places inept.
    Hope she grows up.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:40am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      She comes from a place of intersectionalism, & in the Labour world that translates to entitlement. She’s not been in parliament or the party very long, but I don’t like her chances.
      
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      February 6, 2022 1:10pm
- Philview
  
  Anna Fifield’s opinion article at Stuff also discusses this theme. The NZ Government is now operating more like a dictatorship than a 21st Century open democracy.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:15am
  - virtualmark
    
    Both major parties have surrendered too much influence to their comms people. You see it with Labour at the moment because they’re the current government, but the Nats’ comms people are just as obsessed with controlling the narrative.
    
    And don’t think Act and the Greens are any different. Qu: When did you last see/hear a public statement from any Act MP not named David Seymour?
    
    It’s a bad development all round.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:32am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      There shouldn’t be any intermediary between politicians and the public at all. The only possible reason could be to manage and massage the message, which seems a very disingenuous and duplicitous way of operating in an allegedly “free and democratic” society. Get rid of this layer of hangers-on. Does anyone here go around in their daily life accompanied by a third party whose job it is to moderate all communications to between yourself and others?
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:33am
    - Nickc2
      
      Not really, all political parties have a rogue or two (Labour has more than most) and when they open their mouths, they are not in receipt of what the party line is or who said what previously. JLR (ex Nat) was a prime example. For Labour, you’ve got Kelvin Davis, Phil Twyford, Megan Woods, Stuart Nash, and Poto Williams to name a few.
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:20pm
  - I remember when
    
    So Anna Fifield is saying the government is dictating what they can say.
    Restricting access to stuff they don’t want them to say.
    Restricting press access to what government departments are actually doing.
    So if they (the media) do say anything it is what Labour wants them to say.
    You can’t be any more transparent than that.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:31am
- Thought Criminal
  
  How do we file this one?
  
  Under most transparent government ever?
  
  Or under continued Labour incompetence?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:18am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Lies and corruption?
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:40am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The nastiness of the Left is only exceeded by their incompetence. This woman has no place in government. Get out of our lives.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:21am
- Loddenthinks
  
  This dissembling: “However Verrall claims all that was requested of the parties on the call was that confidentiality be observed around commercial sensitivities.”
  
  I know Ian Taylor well, he’s a number of things but a liar he is not. On the contrary, you’ll struggle to find someone more of a straight shooter. I’d back his version of events over the lying Labour Minister, desperately back-pedalling after being called on her BS.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:40am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Brenda is the “single source of truth”. She told you that last year, weren’t you paying attention?
  “There can be only one…..” Connor McCleod of the Clan McCleod. 🙂
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:01am
  - smttc
    
    Actually it was nearly two years ago.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:37am
Lee C

In possibly the most transparent example of fear-mongering yet, Chris Hipkins urges people ‘not to panic’ about Omicron cases.

I managed to secure some footage of the Cabinet Meeting that inspired this novel approach encouraging the people to have confidence in our leadership.
https://youtu.be/nR0lOtdvqyg
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February 6, 2022 8:02am
- kowtow
  
  Politicians and the Media were the ones who panicked , plunging us into this destructive craziness .
  
  Then they try to shame and cancel anyone saying anything contrary to the party line .
  
  The whole Joe Rogan affair illustrates this nicely , as well as the Media blaming “panic” buyers for shortages etc , when all the fault lies with themselves , the Media and politicians and their other paid agents.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:36am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Trevor Mallard, anyone?
    
    “Omicron is coming and when it arrives it will spread quickly. If you can afford it it will pay to stock up a bit. There will be thousands of close contacts a day.”
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  My response to Hipkins..
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxqvwkmTNy8
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:45am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    This is fitting too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9t_KDGqOmE
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:50am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Spitting image LOL
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:55am
- cjn
  
  Lee C, New World is fighting back. STAY CALM SHOP NORMAL. Good to get a laugh in the frozen foods department!
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:58am
- Clownworld
  
  “Don’t panic Mr Mannering”
  
  Better still as per Douglas Adams…Don’t Panic….
  
  Of course no one listens and runs around saying the sky will fall….
  
  Perhaps creating fear and panic was the purpose!
  
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  February 6, 2022 1:54pm
artemisia

Minister Ayesha Verrall in trouble. Again. Where are her minders?

Sir Ian Taylor claims Associate Health Minister Ayesha Verall tried to muzzle him

Not perhaps the weakest link, but definitely on that list. I guess hard to think first, button the lip next for someone more accustomed to be on the expert pedestal. Still, accept the roles and the money, do the job please.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-sir-ian-taylor-claims-associate-health-minister-ayesha-verall-tried-to-muzzle-him/OWRBD2R7C2IXSZJ2TRYZPVYPL4/
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February 6, 2022 8:04am
- tui47
  
  Verall would only following orders from those above her. For some reason senior Labour MPs seem to want Verall to take the hits for them. Where was Andrew Little?
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:54am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Not everyone who has been successful in their profession has skills that transfer easily to the cut and thrust of politics. I suggest Dr Verrall, who was reported to be a very good clinician, falls into that category.
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:57am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep, she’s definitely taken the wrong turn on her career path.
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Where was Jaspinda more like it. No cameras or mics and she is quite something to deal with.
    My neighbour works is HR – Air NZ
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:02am
  - I remember when
    
    Verrall..ly I say to you.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:38am
- covfefe
  
  Ayesha is an ideologue but smarter than the rest of those dopes. From my few encounters with her I would say she is pretty convinced that she is 100% right – not much humility. And she looks like she is getting fat (health risk).
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:11am
  - ecco
    
    Quite a few in the overweight/obese bmi range…?.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:52am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      The pies, the pies!
      
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      February 6, 2022 1:12pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    covfefe wokeness 101 tells us women don’t get fat. They just are loving themselves more. Or something.
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:09pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Cindy’s mentor?
  “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
  Is the lie finally unraveling?
  BTW the quote is from Joseph Goebbels.
  Something, almost identical was also said by Vladimir Lenin
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:30am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Well Brenda did paraphrase Goebbels when she said “we will be your single source of truth.”
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:12am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Olympic medals used to be awarded for works of art inspired by sport, divided into five categories: architecture, literature, music, painting, and sculpture. The juried art competitions were abandoned in 1954, ironically because artists were considered to be professionals, while Olympic athletes were required to be amateurs.

Who knew!
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February 6, 2022 8:05am
- Biscuit
  
  Yep, NMTB, and the founder of the Modern Olympics, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, won himself an Olympic Games gold medal in 1912, when he’d have been pushing 50 years of age.
  
  In….
  
  POETRY.
  
  It does, however, seem that his win was above board in that all the entries were anonymous affairs…
  
  Still, I note that the gold medals for the 1912 Olympics were solid gold. (These days the ‘gold’ is over 90% silver.) So that’d be $25,000 odd for a poem. I’m starting to think he PLANNED this…
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:41am
- kowtow
  
  One of the most important criteria now is “how many viewers”
  
  The skimpier costumes the better .
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:42am
- virtualmark
  
  And I recall that one chap won Olympic gold medals in both sport and arts. Quite the over-achiever.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:27am
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear, oh dear..

Very Junior Cabinet Minister tries to muzzle a successful businessman

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-sir-ian-taylor-claims-associate-health-minister-ayesha-verall-tried-to-muzzle-him/OWRBD2R7C2IXSZJ2TRYZPVYPL4/

Now why would Labour be so bothered about 1 or 2 negative newspaper columns when it has a bunch of journalists daily churning out sycophantic slush?
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February 6, 2022 8:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  So publishing the truth about Verrall is a no no?
  Who the bloody hell does she think she is?
  Cancel culture is alive and well in the Labour Govt.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:16am
- Mobile Michael
  
  It’s disturbing that a Cabinet Minister allegedly said that only Official sources may comment on the self-isolation trial.
  
  A very Putin-esque approach to media freedom to disseminate information.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:20am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    If I was Putin I would be very offended. He’s a much more honest politician than Brenda ever was or ever will be.
    Brenda is much more aligned with Stalin, Goebbels and Jen Psaki.
    
    Here’s Brenda and her infamous dictator proclamations.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZMoD0eSYeE
    
    2 weeks of sustained propaganda, we will be your single source of truth. Those other lightweights would be in awe of our very own dictator.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:32am
- Paulus
  
  Sheer arrogance symtomatic of this Communist Government.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:24am
- Biscuit
  
  I realise that operating in a commercial environment is foreign to just about every one of Jass’s Cabinet ministers but really…
  
  If Verrall ‘only’ wanted to request of the parties on the call that confidentiality be observed around commercial sensitivities, did it not occur to her that a good time to raise that issue would have been WHEN SHE ISSUED THE INVITATION?
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:28am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Dr Verrall is an inexperienced young woman out of her depth.
    That the Labour Party thought such a person worthy of high office tells us all we need to know about their contempt for the electorate and their shallow pool of parliamentary knowledge and expertise.
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:54am
    - mawm
      
      It tells us that the left have nothing but a smug belief in their righteousness.
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:59am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    My guess is she was told from seniors to have a go at Taylor
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:05am
    - covfefe
      
      She is probably arrogant enough not to have to be told …
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:13am
    - artemisia
      
      I’d say more likely the Labour echo chamber was awash with ‘how dare he’. And no minder handy to say just smile and nod.
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:28am
  - ecco
    
    Verrall comes across as Angry Andy, part two.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:12am
- alex Masterley
  
  Sir Ian was not very happy with the Associate Minister.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:29am
- blue collar
  
  The snowball is gathering momentum, every article , every poll , every protest ….
  They are panicking
  They don’t have an answer
  Potos blank out
  Verral being exposed
  Hipkins own goal
  They suddenly realise it’s all falling apart on every front, and they can’t stop it .
  Can’t put em all in Faafois safe room
  God I’m going to enjoy the next 18 months !
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Countdown is out of popcorn already, and it is only 9 am
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:06am
  - kowtow
    
    Today they’re reporting $3 a litre.
    
    The young things who rate Cindy so highly are goin’ to start squealling.
    
    I’m not confident though that they’ll be able to link these price rises to climate and covid policies .
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:12am
    - DeepBlue
      
      The Aucklanders paying 25c more than the cheapest will be a good eye opener.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:28am
    - virtualmark
      
      The price of oil is being driven by Vladimir Putin and Covid-driven labour shortages in the US shale fields.
      
      No New Zealand politician of any ilk has any ability to move oil prices.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:28am
      - kowtow
        
        How much is the fuel “levy” ,and GST and did Putin apply that to us ?
        
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        February 6, 2022 11:18am
      - bravefart
        
        Ah but they are having a large effect on the price at the pump. Remember that there is about a dollar of tax per litre of petrol.
        
        https://www.mbie.govt.nz/building-and-energy/energy-and-natural-resources/energy-generation-and-markets/liquid-fuel-market/duties-taxes-and-direct-levies-on-motor-fuels-in-new-zealand/
        
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        February 6, 2022 11:24am
      - I remember when
        
        Are the US shale fields restricted by Covid-driven shortages or the decision not to fund new drilling.
        
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        February 6, 2022 11:50am
  - oc35
    
    But how much damage will be inflicted on us during that period?
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:17am
    - kowtow
      
      Will we ever recover ?
      
      Oil and gas exploration gone . Coal gone . Energy price inflation .
      
      Ag and primary sector hammered by all sorts of regulation.
      
      Tourism gone .
      
      Constitution undermined .
      
      Public finances totally f@#cked .
      
      It’s really bad .
      
      But the Media Pardy focus on ‘she saved us’ , they also lie about how many would have died etc
      
      All lies .
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:49am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Whoops! Fat fingered down tick – apologies.
        
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        February 6, 2022 1:17pm
  - curry4me
    
    blue collar: To use a WWII analogy; We are still advancing. The eastern front is advancing westward, and the western front is advancing eastward.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:21am
    - blue collar
      
      Right on brother curry
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:15am
  - Scooter
    
    The Govt may not even last the next 8 months till NZ supposedly opens up but still with self isolation. It will be a free for all when people want to come back over Xmas and not give a stuff about staying home for a week, not to mention all their friends and family visiting. Muppets the lot of them.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:45am
  - jon
    
    Watch the Labour backbenchers become restless and less disciplined at the prospect of being jobless in 20 months time. I can hardy wait too!
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:40am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Well, I suppose the intrepid Tom Dillane could have approached the other reputable high profile business leader present to verify whose version was correct………….
  Or might that have made it a “bad faith” article?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:02am
Lee C

Seen yesterday on fb:

“Disney taught us to hate our step-mothers. But Pornhub has a totally different approach to this issue …”
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February 6, 2022 8:14am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  True – a friend of a friend told me
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:17am
  - Cassandra
    
    It all started with Mrs Robinson……………
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:03am
    - kowtow
      
      Bit older than that .
      
      Genesis 35.22
      
      Reuben and Bilhah , his ole man’s concubine . Same idea. As old as the hills.
      
      Bing bing, bang bang.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:10am
NeverMindTheBollocks

As MnM seems to have dropped the practice:

Happy Zero Tolerance Day!

http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/un/zero-tolerance-day-female-genital-mutilation
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February 6, 2022 8:15am
- Cassandra
  
  Is that Intolerance Day, then? Perhaps mike is waiting for that?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:04am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Zero tolerance? Obvious someone told Verrall
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:07am
- ISeeRed
  
  Replace “female” with “infant” and I’m in.
  
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  February 7, 2022 11:50am
Maggy Wassilieff

There are serious problems with pregnant women trying to get back into NZ’s MIQ system

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/02/05/kiwi-family-struggling-to-return-to-nz-before-birth-of-child/

and all Alison Mau can write about is how we have to stop being such sourpusses

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300511437/time-to-drop-the-sourpuss-act-new-zealand–and-get-used-to-the-new-rules
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February 6, 2022 8:15am
- Over Taxed Worker
  
  Reading between the lines I saw try not to be so fearful NZ – all part of Government’s new narrative.
  Chris Hipkins says “I urge people not to panic but to plan”. What is the matter Chris – 2 years of your fear porn blowing up in your face?
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:22am
  - kowtow
    
    A bit rich this lot telling people to plan , when they never had one.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:14am
- amospicton
  
  Yes, Ali’s politics trumping her morals.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:28am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep, # ,me too, etc was never about wimmin .It was only ever a vessel to attack , another weapon in the neo Marxist arsenal against freedom.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:16am
- Gravelroad
  
  With Ms Mau’s long-winded “I’m telling you” piece today, you have to read to the bottom to find out what the message is. So that cuts out more than half the readers for a start.
  She has maybe had the call from the PM’s propaganda unit to say now is the time that Jacinda wants you to tell all our women to lay off criticising the border opening arrangements.
  Be kind.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:30am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Doesn’t Alison have four children, from before her contraction of late onset lesbianism? You’d think she’d have more sympathy.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:17am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Ms Mau’s sympathy is highly directional.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:07am
  - kowtow
    
    Late onset lesbianism.
    
    I love it , but it’s all the rage these days . The Hollywood crowd made it fashionable .
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:12am
  - yossarian
    
    Late onset lesbianism!!! Love it!
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:36am
  - Opie
    
    “Late onset lesbianism”
    
    NeverMindTheBollocks wins comment of the day!
    
    That Mau is a piece of work alright. Just a paid mouthpiece to attack whatever it is that the government wants her to.
    
    Last I checked she was a so called womens advocate, now her self induced fear of a rapidly weakening virus is forcing her to turn on her own.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:42am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I’ve added Mau to the long list of Lefty females I don’t need any advice from.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:27am
  - mawm
    
    To be honest you are being unfair to the rest of womankind.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:10am
- Albert_Ross
  
  The article in which she says
  
  With Omicron in the community, those returnees are no longer any more dangerous to you, than the person filling up at the next petrol pump.
  
  Isn’t that exactly what we’ve been saying here?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:52am
- DeepBlue
  
  Hubby just said ” God Alison Mau writes like she is Jacinda’s sister”.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:37am
Warren

Surely petrol over $3 a litre must co.e back to bite the Government on the arse if it continues to rise, and really the ones that will suffer are the por or those on low wages.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2022/02/pain-at-the-pump-petrol-prices-break-through-3-barrier-at-auckland-station.html
It has taken a while but it was always going to happen when Jacinda made that Captains callous 4years ago. This won’t be good for inflation also but you can bet your bottom dollar Jacinda Ardern and Grant Robertson will find a way for a excuse or to blame the former Government National for their por policy.
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February 6, 2022 8:21am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Would be interesting to hear Jaspinda’s comments on this – even if it is word soup waffle
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:13am
- Thought Criminal
  
  This will be blamed on greedy capitalists.
  
  The left base will eat it up.
  
  There will be a working group or investigation announced to much fanfare to make Labour look like they care and that they are doing something that. Nothing will change. BAU for Labour.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:29am
- 70andstilllearning
  
  So if you compare a couple of typical Aussie prices for U91 (Sydney $1.659 & Perth $1.659) this morning of course it’s got to be Nationals fault. Can’t blame difference on global crude prices given the’re the same for everyone, and of course Aussie’s current 3.5% inflation vs NZ’s 5.9% has got nothing to do with it with the leverage effect of the additional energy taxes………
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:34am
- Harriet
  
  $3 a litre
  
  Fuck me I’m shocked when it goes over a $1.50 — and that’s only been once or twice and only for a day or two.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:47am
- surfing
  
  The problem isn’t the price of petrol, it is that New Zealand is a crappy low wage economy.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:05am
  - Clownworld
    
    Yes increase the wages that will stop inflation….
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:04pm
  - kowtow
    
    Not if you’re the mayor of Auckland.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:34pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    A crappy low wage economy is because of eco-NIMBYism. The number of people now brainwashed by neomarxist lunacy is another barrier.
    
    A shortage of big-money-earning industries means the cake is small. Not enough money to do the important things NZ needs to do to get everyone housed, educated (with STEM, not neomarxist garbage) and kept well.
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:18pm
- DeepBlue
  
  Jacinda quote March 2022 “The National Government didn’t start Lake Onslow soon enough. If they’d made the oil and gas ban call earlier we would be through the transition period now. 9 years of neglect…’
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:35am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/127694543/race-relations-commissioner-calls-for-compulsory-te-reo-mori-in-schools
This article was inevitable given the date today.
First of all we don’t have enough teachers for core subjects and useful subjects let alone for this stupid idea.
As Race Relations Commissioner he should be concentrating on the anti-white racism exhibited daily on platforms such as Stuff.
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February 6, 2022 8:22am
- Souvlaki
  
  Is he well?
  This does not appear to be rational thought…however you look at it.
  Each one of these bozos becomes more outlandisly ” look at me” than their predecessor?
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:43am
- Gravelroad
  
  Is there Te Reo for: “Put on your mask immediately”?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:00am
  - Jack5
    
    The call has moved from “save the Maori language” to “force people to learn Maori”.
    
    This could backfire. It could change views of non-Maori towards the language, and perhaps towards all Maori culture. The culture and the language could become as relevant to NZ as the hula is to Hawaii — gimmickry for tourists.
    
    It’s no surprise the Race Relations Commissioner and his Corbynist boss, the Human Rights Commissioner, would advocated forced learning. Compulsion’s the tradition of the Extreme Left.
    
    You might think Meng the Merciless is making the compulsory-Maori call as one of many expected diversions to take pressure off Ardern, but I doubt he’s that smart.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:37am
    - Taieri
      
      The call has moved from “save the Maori language” to “force people to learn Maori”.
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      Similar initiative in Wales:
      
      https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/february-2022/tacsi-for-a-moribund-language/
      
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      February 6, 2022 4:45pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Compulsory Math would be a good idea, so the sheep could understand how deep in the shit the Govt dept is
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    debt* ffs
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:57am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      To be fair, the statement could have equally applied to any one of the multitude of govt depts. 🙂
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:42am
  - Close Hen Counters
    
    There has been some great maths recently Steve – covid cases will double every four days according to the experts and we start with a handful of cases … then professors of modelling no less say 50,000 cases by waitangi weekend … and yesterday, same professorial academic elite say 4000 cases by Valentine’s Day. It’s astounding! Basic multiplication, addition and clearly subtraction have taken on a new meaning in the woke old world of ours
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Yeah yeah yeah. Experts?
      ‘X’ is an unknown quantity, and ‘spurt’ is a drip under pressure
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:33pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Did you know that Labour use a roving decimal point?
      The difference between a billion and a trillion is 3 zeros, and as zeros have no value there is no extra cost. AOC//
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:35pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        “Those damned dots” – Lord Randolph Churchill, Chancellor of the Exchequer
        
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        February 6, 2022 1:25pm
- Taieri
  
  As Race Relations Commissioner he should be concentrating on the anti-white racism exhibited daily on platforms such as Stuff
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  The Race Relations Commissioner should be done away with. In a democratic country, and NZ still is one, there’s no need for an army of commissioners, be it race relations, human rights, children’s rights and so on. What useful purpose do they actually serve? Other than immersing their snouts in the taxpayer funded troughs of course? The Human Rights Commissioner’s silence in the past 2 years is particularly striking in view of the arbitrary suspension or withdrawal of civil liberties in this country. What does he and his staff actually do?
  Same with the “race relations” and the current commissioner’s obsession with all things Maori. NZ is no longer a “bi-cultural” country, and hasn’t been for a long time, yet Meng Foon doesn’t seem to know that. Does he live in the parallel universe? Perhaps his title should be changed to the Maoritanga Promotion Commissioner, not that there’s a need for such an office anymore anyway.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:16am
  - mawm
    
    Add to the useless list the Health and Disability Commissioner and his Code of Rights.
    
    Right 2
    The right to freedom from discrimination, coercion, harassment, and exploitation.
    Right 6
    The right to be fully informed.
    Right 7
    The right to make an informed choice and give informed consent.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:17am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    “What useful purpose do they actually serve?”
    
    NZ’s current crop of politically appointed sycophantic fools (commissioners) serve the useful purpose of providing gifts (like Foon’s above) to this gov’t.
    
    https://www.google.com/search?q=What+is+an+example+of+sycophant%3F&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjD7srRvOn1AhVm5nMBHc6DC-QQzmd6BAgbEAU
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:21am
  - Jim
    
    I’ve always thought that ‘bicultural’ is a discriminatory definition, when only one culture is separated (even elevated) from the remaining collective group of other resident cultures. I’m certainly no woke-master, but ‘multicultural’ seems far more appropriate and inclusive definition.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:39pm
- Cobolt24
  
  I mean, it’s a nice sounding language but it’s not fit for modern day use (I mean everyday use) beyond Maraes. There’s only about 10,000-15,000 words in the whole language, many of which are transliterations of English words anyway.
  
  It was literally petitioned to not be taught to Maori by Maori such as Wi Te Hakiro and Renata Kawepo, Piri Ropata and Sir Apirana Ngata plus hundreds more in said petitions
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:47am
- surfing
  
  NZ has maori as an official language, government decided they are in a partnership with maori , all of which means co-governance…. and , all cultures are equal.
  
  So of course kids should be fluent in both Te Reo and English.
  
  Flee the country if you have young kids, I say.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:55am
  - Jack5
    
    National and ACT are quiet on this. Perhaps they don’t want the Left to divert attention from Ardern’s bigger problems.
    
    There will be time enough to tackle compulsory Maori and the Maorification of State services and State enterprises – from the compulsory little Maori ceremonies for public servants to the NZ Pidgin version of English being created by State TV, State Radio, and subsidised newspapers.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:41am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Perhaps the strategy is stand well clear, only speak calm and obviously reasonable statements, and let Labour continue on their merry way in thoroughly pissing everyone off.
      
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      February 6, 2022 4:24pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    And sign language
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:27pm
mandk

Sourpuss.

Pot calling the kettle black, eh Alison?
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February 6, 2022 8:23am
thetiedarch

I’ve never been on to particularly celebrate or be proud of Waitangi Day as our National holiday, and it’s getting harder every year to care.

All I see are protests and increasing division in this country based on skin colour/who your ancestor might have been.

I wonder when/if any government will notice this among the general populace and address it.

ANZAC Day remains the day I recognise that this country stepped up and earned its place in the world.
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February 6, 2022 8:24am
- Jim
  
  Yes this division is a sad and shameful situation within NZ culture that is fast driving towards apartheid. Since the ToW settlements it should be a political priority to truly unite everyone as kiwis (Asians and other ethnicities too not just Maori and Pakeha) for the betterment of our next multicultural kiwi generations
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:54am
  - Paulus
    
    I seriously question as to whether New Zealand is better off as a whole country, no just parts to suit, after the Waitangi Tribunal was set up by Palmer and Lange.
    Not sure it has not gone very slowly forward and is now getting very bogged.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:49am
kowtow

The govt was missing during the summer break , while we have multiple “emergencies” , wuflu, housing , child abuse, gun crime , inflation , climate, the other thing missing today is ;

the modeller’s 50 K by this weekend.

Given the Media Pardy’s obsession with Mr Trump and their so callled fact checking of his every utterance , surely fact checking the so called modellers would be far more relevant to us here in New Zealand , given their fear mongering has allowed the regime to screw us over constantly , destroy the economy and ruin our everyday lives.

Where’s the accountabity.
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February 6, 2022 8:25am
- Paulus
  
  Treasury have asked the Auditor General to look where this Government has spent its $45 billion Covid Fund as printed money as they cannot identify where it has been spent, but not for Covid related.
  Hope the AG can help but report will be delayed and will be muzzled.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:51am
- Harriet
  
  Welfare, tax and income equations need to be overhauled by behavioural science.
  
  Politics and media is waste of human capital in a modern society. 😎
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:04am
Scooter

Sound familiar, Russell Brand on Nancy Pelosi and how she does it for the children. We have our own Nancy, called Cindy.

https://youtu.be/ivIPkr2zaZI
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February 6, 2022 8:26am
- Jim
  
  Just how cringeworthy is Nancy? Even worse does this mean Ardern will still be in politics in another 41 years?
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:56am
  - Scooter
    
    There’s something creepy about their smiles, false and cringe worthy.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:54am
  - jon
    
    Jim if Cindy is still round by then i wonder what her facelift will look like?
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:59am
Surely Knott

UK sage unit openly admits that the vaccine passports are not about health or transmission and do not impact spread, but that removing people’s ability to participate in society (aka passports) is a useful policy lever to encourage uptake. It is blatant tyranny and abuse of power.

MSN UK today – “Vaccine passports will do little to stop coronavirus transmission at festivals, but should still be considered anyway to increase uptake in young people, scientists advising the Government have said.

A newly released paper by the Environmental Modelling Group (EMG) shows that researchers admit that vaccine passes have a “limited impact” on the spread of the virus

MSN reports, “But it is the first time that government scientists have admitted that they could be used primarily for forcing people to be vaccinated, rather than to stop the spread of the virus.”

This has already been admitted in NZ by Michael Baker.

This is an abuse of basic democratic rights. It is not about health. Passports don’t stop spread. (and frankly they don’t stop severe disease either) It is gross discrimination and a government police state.. The rights my children and I have had removed are equivalent to a criminal during home detention. We have committed no crime. We have not had the right to a state appointed lawyer or a trial.

While the UK has used passports for large public events it is nothign like nz’s passport restrictions some of the most extreme in the world. How long is it reasonable to nudge teenagers by denying them a haircut , which is basic personal grooming, or sports or art groups or participating in any activity. Given it’s not about health, which other government policies do they believe it’s reasonable to use passport restriction to force compliance, because we have a climate and housing emergency as well.
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February 6, 2022 8:28am
- Jim
  
  All Kiwis should be very concerned that our ‘closed down medical apartheid society’ now makes NZ a far less attractive proposition to foreign skilled migrants and their children, which are essential to sustain NZ’s economic and societal success.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:06am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    I think that we should be primarily concerned about the state of affairs in terms of rights abuses for those who are already NZ citizens, not foreigners and their children, whom you seem to think are “essential to sustain NZ’s economic and societal success.” Sustain? We should first look at achieving economic and societal success, before we think about sustaining it.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:52am
    - ISeeRed
      
      Sustain what success? 10-15 years ago, NZ near the bottom of the developed world. 500,000 immigrants later, we’re still near the bottom. Getting really tired of the immigration fetishism.
      
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      February 7, 2022 12:02pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  When science serves politics instead of the truth it never ends well.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:29am
- kowtow
  
  The UK regime has already apologised for using psychology and fear to obtain compliance ( someone else can get the link I can’t be bothered) .This has been covered by some news outlets there.
  
  Wot’s the money our regime has and is doing the same , but our Media Pardy being a paid arm of the regime would never go there .
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:41am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    kowtow – people will find some very good resources regarding the use of fear tactics and applied psychology by the authorities here.
    
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/search?keywords=Psychology
    
    NZ used the identical playbook. I would be surprised if it wasn’t direct from the UK as part of our 5 Eyes association.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:07pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Stay strong, Surely Knott. This abuse of our human rights will pass. And as this happens the numbers of vaxx pass holders to belatedly and cowardly find their protest voices will rise. Watch too for our oppressors to quietly switch their jailers clothes for those of inmates as they try to file out undetected. The first group should be left to the shame of their conscience, while the second group must be hunted via due legal process.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:05am
  - kowtow
    
    I read of cases ,as the Allies advanced up Italy ,where officials seeing the writing on the wall quietly told their victims “I was never really a committed member of the fascist party , you know”
    
    I see the same here now , in the Media etc , the turncoats ; only now attcking miq , questioning the veracity of modellers, talking of “died with” instead of died “from”, the lockdown harms etc, the swing voter with buyer’s remorse who enabled this shite.
    
    These are things we’ve been talking about and questioning since this damned thing started . But now they see the light and they, no doubt like the Italian officials , were never truly committed fascists in order to, as you say, file out undetected.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:30am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Those I think were stupid I can forgive. The cowards? Never.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:51am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    St Jacinda apologised for events that happened under Muldoon to visa overstayers. How big of her.
    
    Will we have a great symbolic tearing of garments and gnashing of teeth (perhaps throw in a monument) from Dear Leader for all the NZ citizens left in horrible situations overseas during the covid outbreaks??? Compo??
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:30pm
- Zero Kindness
  
  The latest data from Israel suggests the Pfiser triple and quadruple jabbed are no better protected from severe illness or death from Omicron than the unvaccinated.
  The discrimination in NZ must be ceased immediately and those whom have lost their jobs need to be reinstated or compensated.
  The constant focus on boosters by Ardern is going to backfire all over this country and especially on her polling numbers in March.
  https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/321674
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:38am
Lee C

Experts speak about ‘this thing’: https://www.facebook.com/100002366093318/videos/365897821627379
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February 6, 2022 8:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Lee C that’s an excellent resource. Do you know if it is available on Youtube? I’ve had a look but don’t know what it is titled? I can download it from Youtube but not from Facebook.
  I’ve been compiling data, newspaper articles and videos for the last 18 months. Something to pass on to children and grandchildren for future reference. No doubt, much of this has already been “memory holed” and will continue to be burned as the narrative collapses.
  Many people will want their previous claims to vanish.
  
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  February 6, 2022 1:10pm
  - Observer of Life
    
    Clan: Good on you. That is a true gift for the next generation. History is so important .. lest we forget.
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:41pm
Ruahine

It is raining a little in Auckland this morning. First time for a while.
Thought crossed my mind.
How come the Labour Govt thinks that the water falling across the country belongs to a few lucky Iwi.
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February 6, 2022 8:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There is plenty on the West Coast. If Iwi own it, are they also liable for the damage caused by it?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:21am
  - Jim
    
    Smart, benefit and liability ??
    
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    February 6, 2022 7:35pm
All_on_Red

So, people aren’t getting tested are they…
The unintended consequence of stupid isolation rules.
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February 6, 2022 8:39am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Yes I think that is spot on. If I develop mild symptoms I will definitely isolate myself from others. But I will not get tested. For obvious reasons.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:47am
  - Taieri
    
    If I develop mild symptoms I will definitely isolate myself from others. But I will not get tested.
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    Developing mild symptoms negates any need for testing. Why test for the presence of something that you know you have?
    Voluntary self-isolation is then an obvious course to take.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:21am
    - mawm
      
      As we all do with a common cold/influenza. It’s called being sick and not going to work.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    If you test positive the Stasi will be around super quick to isolate you in a hotel cell
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:23am
    - DeepBlue
      
      Or to bring 4 new Covid positive victims so they an recover with you in your spare bedrooms.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:40am
  - kowtow
    
    The only people who should isolate are the vulnerable.
    
    The vast rest of the majority of us should have always been left to get on with life.
    
    The whole thing has been irrational , divisive and destructive .
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:44am
- Flossie
  
  There’s no way I’ll be fronting up to be tested if I have any symptoms!
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:57am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I’ll get tested. If I am seriously sick. Like I think I need to be in hospital.
    
    I can’t believe the government does not see that happening. Those 224 cases yesterday could be 10 percent of the number of infections. Or 1 percent. Who knows?
    
    AFAIK it is not compulsory to be tested.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:39am
    - kowtow
      
      Don’t worry , if you end up in hospital they will test you . That’s where they found so many ” cases” and incidentally where so much of it was spread around.
      
      Did any health system collapse ?
      
      Nope . So what was it all about .
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:46am
    - Stu2
      
      Yep
      
      The numbers that matter are hospital admissions and ICU beds. Eight hospital beds on Friday, down from ten two days before. Quiet so far.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:18am
      - kowtow
        
        All quiet on the wuflu front .
        
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        February 6, 2022 12:10pm
    - 70andstilllearning
      
      Not sure about compulsion or not BY – this link:
      https://covid19.govt.nz/testing-and-tracing/contact-tracing/close-contacts/#:~:text=stay%20home%20and%20self%2Disolate,last%20contact%20with%20the%20case
      
      uses the word “need” which of course is not “must”.
      
      However this link:
      https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-response-planning/covid-19-epidemic-notice-and-orders#epidemic
      
      has so many orders listed now who knows what little piece of compulsion could be buried in one.
      
      Slipping little legal “things” through with other “things” seems to be a specialty with this gov’t, and we only seem to find out when someone decides to apply the consequences of of breaching the “thing”.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:46am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      BY – no, it is not compulsory. I had to reluctantly visit hospital 6 weeks ago. Was asked to have a RAT. I asked how accurate it was. 49-50% was the answer. I asked was it compulsory to have it to see the specialist. The answer was no, if it had been yes I would have left the hospital for obvious reasons.
      
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      February 6, 2022 1:27pm
      - Jim
        
        Coin toss accuracy, pointless.
        
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        February 6, 2022 1:43pm
  - coge
    
    Absolutely. Do not comply. Refuse.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:49am
- covfefe
  
  It is hard not to believe that they actually want to destroy small businesses.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:16am
  - kowtow
    
    No comrade , rthat’s the goal of international socialism .
    
    The state will be supreme.
    
    ( Big business has already climbed on board , seeing there’s so much taxpayer money to be had for one thing or another, whether it’s carmakers , banks , electricty generation , airlines etc)
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:49am
  - Jim
    
    The multinational corporate cabal has repeatedly demonstrated is strength in censoring and cancelling any dissenting voices during the ‘pandemic’ (the Great Barrington Declaration being one such example).
    People like Joe Rogan remain standing because he has the power of millions of admiring fans (who will follow him to any platform) who know he is an entertaining, intelligent and fair man.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:49pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Teachers will. Their union has negotiated unlimited sick leave for covid, and it’s not counted against their annual sick leave entitlement.
  
  Why wouldn’t they get tested, on a regular basis?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:29am
- Inandout
  
  AoR, before we were besotted with the omni-plague we had colds and just carried on with life. We were told by all and sundry that ‘there is no cure for the cold virus’ and that was it; shit happens. An older person has much more chance of dying from the whole catalogue of documented diseases, and yes delayed treatment has been a death warrant for some. Jacinda, get the hell out of our lives.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:51am
  - Cinematic
    
    A 1,000 times this.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:25pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Yep Australia is on track to have Omicron add about 1-2% to it’s normal annual death rate. IE you have about 50x more likelihood of dying of something other than omicron in the next year (the real but mundane killers like cancer, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s etc). Clearly in practical terms covid is near zero added risk to almost everyone in NZ and not worth a moment of thought or any modification in behaviour, beyond perhaps taking some cheap safe supplements and getting vaxxed if you judge your personal risk to be sufficiently high.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:53pm
- GT Build
  
  I heard hipkins state the symptoms of the bug is itchy/sore throat and a runny nose. Thats me 80 per cent of the year for the last 50 years but I have always called it hayfever/sinus not covid so I will never get a test.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:39am
- Geoffs
  
  Random household testing here in Queensland.
  wanting to drive up the fear levels!!
  https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/random-covid-testing-in-queensland-uncovers-hidden-cases/news-story/50bfd94c862f01d9f2d4ce3853f4e5f3
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:33pm
blue collar

FAT PEOPLE DEATH EXPLAINED ?
So my mate in the uk ?? had his gall bladder out , quack was taking blood samples , he asked why ?
Said they were doing it as a survey of vitamin d levels , every chance . To help with covid information
We all know it reduces chances of serious issues with covid if you hv high or normal levels , as shown by Israeli study old mate posted yesterday here of gd .
Low levels are common in hospitalisation .

I know it’s a long bow , but I was thinking it’s weird how fat people hit the covid death stats in a big way , Is it coz they normally cover up their fatness with clothing ? Stay inside a lot , aren’t overly outdoorsy , probably hv a diet low on vitamins .
Dunno , why are they a big stat ?
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February 6, 2022 8:44am
- Jim
  
  Multi factorial but certainly there are many factors that affect the absorption of vit D (melatonin being one). Dr John Campbell explains much here including the Israeli study:
  
  https://youtu.be/fbGug3rczx4
  
  https://youtu.be/V5g9AVqRsjo
  
  https://youtu.be/w9h-XQm2qEY
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:13am
- covfefe
  
  Being fat bad for you in so many ways – insulin resistance, extra work for your heart to pump blood around, may mess with immune system, etc. I took a look at the vit D levels done on all the possible covid cases coming through our local DHB back in first outbreak – more often than not the levels were low (end of summer, south island). Which reminds me, I need to go outside :).
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:18am
- kowtow
  
  I find the obesity thing obscene.
  
  Everyone is told “get vaxxed” to save the health system , take responsibility for your own and evryone else’s health and yet , yet this plandemic has literally been largely about the very people who haven’t looked after their own health and who for decades now have been such a cough cough heavy burden on said health system.
  
  There needs to be much more debate about the weight placed on the health system by self indulgent fatties.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:28am
  - Taieri
    
    There needs to be much more debate about the weight placed on the health system by self indulgent fatties.
    ————-
    
    Does there also need to be much more debate about the weight placed on the health system by self indulgent drinkers? Smokers? Participants in risky activities? Where do we draw the line?
    
    As for the mythical “health system”, does it even exist anymore? It is very difficult even to get an in-person appointment with your GP these days, let alone any meaningful and prompt treatment for a variety of non-fat related ailments, even when one is willing to pay for it.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:48am
    - kowtow
      
      In this specific instance I’m talking fatties and covid .
      
      If having a beer and a smoke was corelated to wuflu mortality/ admission to ICU as closely as fattyism was then I’d have said so.
      
      Chin chin.
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:04am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      “Does there also need to be much more debate about the weight placed on the health system by self indulgent drinkers? Smokers? Participants in risky activities? Where do we draw the line?”
      
      Yes. If the standard and the argument is “unvaxxed will stress the health system” (a claim without evidence) then not focusing on these other sources of stress (a set of claims for which there is more supporting evidence, particularly vis a vis the chronic, self-inflicted illnesses) is a clear sign that the former is simply empty rhetoric. It tells us that they aren’t concerned about the impact on the health system, but have other motivations, all well canvassed in this forum many times.
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:00pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Latest data out of Israel showing (yet again) that vax status has nix to do with hospitalisations with serious covid symptoms.
        
        ‘80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated’ says Ichilov hospital director
        Vaccine has “no significance regarding severe illness,” says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.
        
        https://dailysceptic.org/2022/02/05/80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaccinated-israel-hospital-director/
        
        Also he made this point regarding the whole “with/from” covid bollocks which makes NZ numbers completely unreliable.
        
        Speaking at a cabinet meeting on Sunday, he told ministers, “Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness.”
        
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        February 6, 2022 1:43pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        51% of Maori are obese, 72% of PI. Who to they vote for? Labour pandering to their base and ignoring their self destructive behaviours while latching onto easier and mostly irrelevant targets via punitive vaccination mandates
        
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        February 6, 2022 2:46pm
  - ecco
    
    Yes agree kowtow. If Ardern had spent more of the borrowed money on educating some sectors of the population on more healthy lifestyles, in particular less takeaways and sugary food and drinks, instead of just spouting that the vaccine was going to solve everything then she would have done far more for these at risk people.
    
    A large number of these obese sectors of the nz population clearly vote for her so they are listening to her. If you look at the world obesity tables some ethnicities in NZ have higher rates of obesity than in the US, which is really saying something.
    
    Central obesity, which is fat accumulating around the waistline, is a leading indicator of diabetes and insulin resistance and hence complications if you contract covid. If you visit the diet doctor.com website you can read all about it. To access the articles just sign up for the one month free trial and then cancel.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:06am
  - Jim
    
    LoL one of my friends (love his character but has takeaway on speed dial so he’s morbidly obese) has the stunning lack of self awareness to say ‘it’s those selfish antivaxers that are risking the health service’.
    Sadly he doesn’t think to much about what goes into his body, especially if it’s free.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:54pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Latest VitD3 research: Pre-infection 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 levels and association with severity of COVID-19 illness
  
  https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0263069
  
  Guidance from our MoH on this? Nil. Crickets. Zip
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:26am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    What is astonishing, that even with their sycophantic compliance, nobody in NZ media has asked that mammoth in the room sized question.
    Why has the government and MoH done NOTHING to promote basic health advice? Why would you not do this even if you think the jabs are wonderful, which they aren’t?
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:55pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Why? Because dogma of vaccine violation accepts NOTHING that might compete with it.
      
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      February 6, 2022 2:25pm
- Faroffsound
  
  Maybe not so weird that fat people hit the covid death stats –
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-the-coronavirus-attacks-fat-tissue-scientists-find/5C7WMOBJIRRZ672HM5U3OASO3U/
  
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  February 6, 2022 3:14pm
- JohnRidd
  
  ” why are they a big stat ?”
  
  Because vitamin D is fat soluble. It is difficult to gel blood levels up as it gets stored in the body fat.
  
  It is much more difficult for an obese person to get adequate (40nmol/ml) vitamin D levels.
  
  A thin adult male needs about 2000 to 4000 IU/day. An obese adult male needs 6000 to 10000 IU per day.
  
  Vitamin D is tricky. Too much D without vitamin K2 can cause problems with calcification on the arteries. Consult your doctor before taking high doses of D.
  
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  February 6, 2022 5:11pm
Tony Stuart

After the Tongan eruption/tsunami wiped out communications in the Kingdom, Dr Shane Reti saw a potential avenue for help. Totally on spec, and on the basis that Elon Musk could only say “No” he messaged Musk about getting satellite services for Tonga.

Dr Reti tweeted this last night:

Dr Shane Reti
@DrShaneRetiMP
Very pleased. Elon Musk providing satellite to Tonga. Fiji Minister for Communications, Aiyaz Sayed-Khaiyum confirmed to FBC News that the team from SpaceX are in Fiji to work on an internet gateway for the Kingdom of Tonga.

https://twitter.com/DrShaneRetiMP/status/1489900739350564871

The SpaceX team is committing six months to restoring communications in Tonga. They will be based in Fiji initially, setting up a gateway. This is a fantastic gesture by Musk, set in motion by Dr Reti’s message to him.

Well done Dr Shane, How refreshing it is to see proactive, innovative leadership, and what a contrast that makes to what we see coming out of the Beehive on a daily basis.
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February 6, 2022 8:45am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Maybe Jacinda will thank Shane for his success. ??? ?? ???
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:50am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Perhaps, but probably not. Labour is more likely to claim the victory themselves.
    
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    February 6, 2022 8:54am
    - Warren
      
      Yes it’s all about her and how great thou are never about those that achieve a result that she hadn’t even thought about.
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:09am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Beat me to it. Jaspinda planted the idea in Shane’s head//
      
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      February 6, 2022 9:26am
      - Jack5
        
        Good work by Shane Reti.
        
        Smart by Elon Musk, too. He’s quick to see a good publicity chance. Remember his response to the Thai kids trapped in a cave?
        
        Here’s a report of Musk’s quick response with a tweet seeking comment on whether Tongans thought it important for Space X to send Starlink terminals:
        
        https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2022/01/elon-musk-uses-internet-to-ask-the-people-of-tonga-if-theyd-like-help-with-their-internet/
        
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        February 6, 2022 12:42pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Never. It didn’t involve spending a billion dollars of taxpayers’ money so obviously of no value.
    
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    February 6, 2022 9:33am
    - Tarquin North
      
      The real tragedy is Shane is currently a list M.P. The current M.P for Whangarei is Emily Henderson, probably the most utterly useless person in parliament and complete waste of space in her electorate. She won’t even reply to emails unless she knows who you are. Like so many of the newly minted Labour M.Ps this is definitely a bad career move for her and a disaster for us.
      
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      February 6, 2022 10:04am
      - Inandout
        
        TN, ever thought of standing outside her electorate and telling all passersby of your story? Whangarei is a small town.
        
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        February 6, 2022 11:18am
      - Spenditb4theytaxit
        
        She will get the boot next election. I see that she is on sick leave at the moment after taking a nose dive while tramping and pulling her own leg for a change.
        
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        February 6, 2022 1:16pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Who? oh you mean that local MP whose only “output?” I’ve seen or heard of was a “letter box drop” questionnaire/survey ( from Parliamentary Services Office – I figured that from the barely visible NZG watermark logo and the address to send the completed survey back to) that was emblazoned with a brilliant red Labour name and logo!!! . More taxpayers money to advertise Labour!! Sheeeesh
        
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        February 6, 2022 2:42pm
      - Spenditb4theytaxit
        
        I am sick of hearing her endless taxpayer funded commercials on the radio advertising her stupid survey. Her wining voice goes on and on each ad break.
        
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        February 6, 2022 6:12pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Well done Shane. But it shouldn’t have been necessary for an Opposition politician to hold out the begging bowl to a billionaire.
  
  Why does our government not have the nous and the sturdy, long-term relationships with the US to reach out to one of our traditional partners at govt to govt level?
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:22am
  - mawm
    
    Maybe because this billionaire is not a supporter of leftist ideology.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:29am
  - Paulus
    
    Labour’s overseas friends are getting less and less – look at the overseas media.
    But our Cindy is shortly off on her extended World Wide VIP trip, leaving the *[Deputy PM] in charge, to try and a) get a job and b) show the worldwide media how lovely she still is.
    Problem is that she may come back !
    
    *[Don’t start that. mod.]
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:58am
- Thought Criminal
  
  Labour could have done this too. But they hate Musk because he is rich and successful.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:33am
  - Hollyfield
    
    Plus they are not solutions focused and they are so anti business that they don’t know how to work with business.
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:28am
  - Inandout
    
    TC, but not hate him that much. Look at the EV discount up to 80k and absence of road user charges.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Any chance that we will see this story splashed about on the MSM?
  
  No wonder I daily tune into KB to check out the news.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:45am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://babylonbee.com/news/facebook-stock-plunges-after-zuckerberg-removes-human-skin-suit-during-zoom-call-with-shareholders
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February 6, 2022 8:46am
- oldfella
  
  Steve… here’s some more US political humour. A great weekly compilation from Powerline.
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/the-week-in-pictures-media-meltdown-edition-2.php
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:00am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Excellent, thanks oldfella.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:49pm
- alloytoo
  
  You have to have sympathy for these poor blighters at the Bee, the Biden administration continues to make their work difficult.
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:23am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I wonder if Verral reads Kiwiblog? Hope she does. She is getting a right hammering today and deservedly so.
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February 6, 2022 8:53am
- Gravelroad
  
  @steveO:
  No, I think junior cabinet ministers and MP’s (in fact, all MP’s) would be told not to view platforms such as KB – could be upsetting.
  The Labour Party and socialist mindset has to be kept on track without the distraction of different viewpoints.
  There are many with fragile egos for whom being faced with different perspectives of life and politics would be challenging.
  The socialist way is the only way.
  Keep saying it and it will come true.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:28am
- ecco
  
  I’m sure she reads it or someone in her circle will be reporting back to her ?
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:39am
Tony Stuart

It’s a wonderful day for those of us who claim Scottish heritage. The Scots have beaten England 20-17 in the Six Nations opener to retain the Calcutta Cup. Best of all, Murrayfield was full, and pumping.

In the words of the anthem below (video is from today’s match) the Scots fought against Proud Eddie’s Army, and “sent him homewards tae think again”

https://youtu.be/EEbGC1UWaLQ
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February 6, 2022 8:53am
- mandk
  
  Great win by Scotland, but it’s a shame about that carping dirge of an anthem.
  
  And to think they could have had Scotland the brave!
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:07am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Problem is Tony, I have Scottish & English heritage – have to punch myself on both sides of my face 😉
    
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    February 6, 2022 10:13am
    - oldfella
      
      Don, same problem if you had mixed European & Maori heritage. Bruises on both cheeks.
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:01am
    - Inandout
      
      DB, add Irish and you will also have a sore jaw.
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:29am
  - Jack5
    
    Did the Scots sing “Flower of Scotland,” MandK?
    
    If they sang it like Amy Macdonald does here at an international soccer match, it’s a good, rousing song (comments from the more than a million who watched the video clip seem to think so, any way):
    
    https://youtu.be/h0Wz8ig2y9Y
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:59am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      I love Flower of Scotland Jack. The crowd at Murrayfield was in great voice, especially for the second voice, sung without accompaniment.
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:15pm
- Cassandra
  
  I watched the game. Started like Culloden but our boy Ben came right in the end. It was never Bannockburn, Tony, the southern people just made two silly errors. The Flower blooms. Any suggestion that the O’Keefes are actually Scottish is unproven.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:10am
  - kowtow
    
    Arr, begob and begorah ye can thank Arthur Guinness who’s sponsoring the competition .
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:23am
- Prince
  
  What a disgrace. Huge crowd smiling and singing. Not a mask in sight. Surely they need to be locked down, red-lighted, isolated and ground under some State heel.
  Kudos to Andrew Hore for standing up against the insane Super Rugby isolation/no crowds competition this year.
  Watching the crowds at Aussie’s FFA cup final, Windies cricket, six nations rugby is finally opening Kiwi eyes to our insane policies.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:43am
  - kowtow
    
    A while back the media pundits were all agog about a full Eden Park when the rest of the world was locked down , they were boasting “is there any place else in the world you’d rather be”.
    
    Where are those pundits now?
    
    ‘Goff said that besides being a great game of rugby, the march was a celebration of the return of normality.
    
    “The fact that this match was broadcast around Australia and other places was a huge chance to showcase to the world New Zealand’s success in dealing with Covid-19,”‘
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/419027/first-weekend-at-level-1-draws-crowds-to-rugby-and-emergency-rooms
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:00am
Warren

Well there is one thing for sure I won’t be doing tomorrow and that is tuning into the Waitangi Celebration and listening to the pre recorded bullshit that our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will spout.
New Zealand needs everyone on the same page when it comes to our population, not what Maori and our Prime Minister want which in the end will devide New Zealanders .
People say Robert Muldoon decided New Zealand but he was straight up and the people New his view even if it was wrong, Jacinda Ardern is devious and does not care for any opposition to her views and will lie and decieve to achieve her goal.
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February 6, 2022 9:02am
- Tony Stuart
  
  You’d be late if you tuned in tomorrow Warren. Waitangi Day is today! Tomorrow is just the Mondayised day off in lieu.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:38am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EbNNrsJB4

Report: Selwyn Mass March.

The freedom and rights coalition ran another protest March this Waitangi weekend, where under gloomy drizzly skies a crowd of 1250 turned up to let their voices be heard, in conservative satellite town Rolleston.
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February 6, 2022 9:10am
- oldfella
  
  Curry, reminds me: what happened to the story a few days back about the attempt to chop down the flagpole up north?
  If it had been ‘evil white supremacists’ (most of us on this blog /s), it would have been endless headlines.
  So maybe it was a brown-on-brown thing?
  Will we ever learn the truth?
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:05am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    The graffiti images suggested the usual suspects.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:47pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcVinStdsJ0

New Plymouth Serving Papers & Voices!

Here is the full day of everyone that was interested in voicing themselves out to the world! If you want to see the full video of serving the paperwork to the police station and media outlet Check it out here: NZTN – New Zealand True News Find me on telegram (NZTN) If you wish to support this cause and see it grow into a global movement, please support me through this journey as I will continue the hard work knowing I have your full attention and continue to better myself and others every day. https://www.patreon.com/lingo_lewi?fa…
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February 6, 2022 9:10am
blue collar

I once cooked in the kitchen at Waitangi on Waitangi Day , was freaking out wondering how we were gonna feed the thousands of visitors . My Maori wife’s family from there , laughing at me n telling me to relax .
Next minute trailer loads of food rocked up from different areas in Nz , big industrial kitchen , massive pots n ovens . No prob .

Those people were good sorts n there to celebrate in a positive way , same with the waka crews .

It’s the ones who come to turn it into a political mess that ruin it.
Tv cameras only egg them on .

MAoridom is a wonderful thing . Warm and inviting .

WE only hear about the agitators , gangs or govt agenda mob . Don’t confuse the 2 .
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February 6, 2022 9:10am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I’ve had a similar experience at Waitangi. Away from the pollies, the welcome and hospitality is magnificent.
  
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  February 6, 2022 9:40am
curry4me

Here is the website URL of the NZ Truckers, in case Meta censor the existing one for ‘fringe and unacceptable views’.
http://www.convoy2022.nz/
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February 6, 2022 9:12am
- artemisia
  
  I see GoFundMe has capitulated and is now auto refunding all donations made to the Canadian Truckers convoy. First off were giving a few days for donors to apply, and any remaining $$$ to go to charity.
  
  Apparently the alternative fundraiser is doing well. Streisand Effect.
  
  Meanwhile cowboys on horseback are joining the convoy. What larks.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:08am
  - alloytoo
    
    I was watching a popular podcast (originally streamed live) when GoFundMe decision became known.
    
    The guest who happened to be a lawyer went off line for five minutes and returned to suggest that everyone who had contributed invoke their arbitration clause. This would have cost GoFundMe a fair chunk of change out of there own pocket.
    
    16000 people were watching the podcast live, and the participants in the podcast had a collective subscriber base greater than a million.
    
    I suspect that this suggestion went viral and this was a contributory factor to GFM choosing to refund automatically.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:33am
    - artemisia
      
      GoFundMe had already nailed their colours to the mast and it will not be forgotten.
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:58am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Taking your successful platform and making it political is never a good idea. I’ve already emailed them and told them I won’t be contributing through them again.
      
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      February 6, 2022 3:00pm
      - artemisia
        
        GoFundMe started out by saying the convoy had veered into the unlawful, as advised by police and apparently that contravened their code of practice.
        
        Didn’t take long for the backlash to help them realise it didn’t contravene. Or something.
        
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        February 6, 2022 6:33pm
blue collar

THANK GOD FOR THE RAIN !!!!
All my farming mates are relieved .
I would be too if the missus didn’t want to paint the hallway …. my normal chores being outside ?.
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February 6, 2022 9:14am
- Gravelroad
  
  You can’t paint satisfactorily on a wet day,
  It affects the paint drying properly and makes the job longer.
  Try that one as an excuse.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:21am
  - blue collar
    
    Shot gravel !
    Answer was if I don’t start using that brush she was gonna stick it where the sun don’t shine ….. and we ain’t talking invercargill .
    
    Flat out like a lizard drinking ?
    
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    February 6, 2022 12:38pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      So you’re using brown paint then ? 😉
      
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      February 6, 2022 6:18pm
Tasman devil

Chaps and Chapesses today is Waitangi Day and
the Covid Modellers told us there would be many thousands today.

One of them is surely as thick as a Plank?
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February 6, 2022 9:40am
- kowtow
  
  Like all the other promises this mob made .
  
  MIA.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:54am
- ClanMcleod
  
  All of them are at least as thick as Plank.
  
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  February 6, 2022 3:03pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Actually, I’m very disappointed – though not at all surprised – that their predictions were totally screwball.
    But if we had 50,000 infections by now, our friend Omicron would be well on it’s way to the march through the population – an event which should put an end to all the bullshit we’ve had to suffer for the past almost 2 years and get rid of the ridiculous vax passports and the destructive division that is being forced on our society.
    
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    February 6, 2022 6:16pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Did Meng Foon insist…. that all the Croupiers working the Gaming Tables at ‘Meng’s Place’ in the deprived Gisborne suburb of Kaiti, speak fluent Te Reo?

https://gisborneherald.co.nz/local-news/20210617/kickback-claim-denied/
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February 6, 2022 9:41am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  He doesn’t remember.
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:18am
  - Souvlaki
    
    See my comment earlier about my suspicions re his ‘ mentation’….? full quid??
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:22am
    - Jack5
      
      Meng the Merciless, a former Mayor of Gisborne, and now Race Relations Commissioner, involved with pokies?
      
      Maori and Pacific Island people have more problems from gaming machines than non-Maori New Zealanders according to this report:
      
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/365407/preying-on-the-weak-maori-and-pasifika-hit-hard-with-problem-gambling
      
      And here’s a fuller version of the Department of Internal Affairs on Meng and poker machines:
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/125432465/race-relations-commissioner-meng-foon-rejects-allegations-of-pokie-grant-kickback-in-historical-investigation
      
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      February 6, 2022 11:54am
TripeWryter

The Left once again puzzles me.
The people of Kindness, Concern, the Woke, the finger-pointers, the self-righteous, the holier-than-thou, thems who exist to lecture the rest of us, whose day revolves around being Offended and Offended on Behalf of Others … you know who I mean.
The Insufferable Virtue-Signallers.
But the stance of many concerning Charlotte Bellis is rather dismaying.
Where have been their women? Why have so many of them been so malicious about a woman who was only seeking a safe place to be pregnant and to have her baby?
I listened to Tim Roxborogh on the radio yesterday. He was one of them. ‘Issues around the Charlotte Bellis case. More to be told there.’
He had to be gently pulled in by his co-host, Tim Beveridge, without appearing to.
Why did it take yesterday in The New Zealand Herald a middle-aged, balding, white, male, Tory ex-Cabinet Minister – Steven Joyce – to boil the Bellis story down to one humane point – she and a whole lot of other pregnant women were looking to have their babies in a safe place – their own country.
Only towards the end of the week did we start to hear from the midwives body. But where were the women who normally personne the barricades, shout in the media – where were the women columnists?
No-one – my Grandma, mother, aunts, sisters, my daughters, a [ex-]wife used to say – understands pregnancy and birth like women.
Well, where were the women in support of Charlotte Bellis and the other pregnant mothers trying to get home?
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February 6, 2022 9:56am
- Inandout
  
  TW, NZME owns the Herald and ZB radio and these people have shares:
  J P Morgan Nominees Australia Pty Limited
  39,217,589 19.85
  Citicorp Nominees Pty Limited
  31,495,418 15.94
  HSBC Custody Nominees (Australia) Limited
  12,697,520 6.43
  JPMORGAN Chase Bank
  10,581,967 5.36
  Accident Compensation Corporation
  7,805,355 3.95
  Bnp Paribas Nominees Pty Ltd
  7,642,902 3.87
  HSBC Nominees (New Zealand) Limited
  7,450,905 3.77
  Walling Pty Limited
  7,000,000 3.54
  HSBC Custody Nominees (Australia) Limited Gsco Eca
  6,903,018 3.49
  National Nominees Limited
  4,357,223 2.21
  FNZ Custodians Limited
  4,308,975 2.18
  Forsyth Barr Custodians Limited
  4,020,558 2.04
  Pax Pasha Pty Ltd
  3,147,959 1.59
  Merrill Lynch (Australia) Nominees Pty Limited
  2,383,616 1.21
  Leh Soon Yong
  1,279,827 0.65
  Murray Athol Osmond
  1,163,404 0.59
  Pax Pasha Pty Ltd
  1,123,173 0.57
  UBS Nominees Pty Ltd
  1,082,420 0.55
  Michael Raymond Boggs
  1,079,866 0.55
  Timothy John Eakin
  1,070,138 0.54
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:39am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    I remember someone saying how the Aussie banks owned most of the NZ banks so all the profits go over to Australia. If you dig a bit deeper you find that the Aussie banks are majority owned by US financial entities which are ultimately owned by two companies, Blackstone and Vanguard. Forbes reckon these two will own basically everything on the planet by 2030.
    
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    February 6, 2022 3:14pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Part of the W E F ?
      
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      February 6, 2022 6:12pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Oh sure..
        https://www.weforum.org/people/stephen-a-schwarzman
        
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        February 6, 2022 6:45pm
All Bound For Mumu Land

A portrait of the ticket takers. Why talent and ability doesn’t determine worldly success, but rather ruthless ambition and desire for external approval.

https://www.overcomingbias.com/2020/11/what-makes-prestige.html

“Politics is full of people who want to prove they’re the smartest person in the room but they almost never realise that the room they’re in rarely has any really smart people in it!”
Dominic Cummings
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February 6, 2022 9:59am
- oldfella
  
  All Bound:
  
  “Politics is full of people who want to prove they’re the smartest person in the room but they almost never realise that the room they’re in rarely has any really smart people in it!”
  Dominic Cummings
  
  He’s obviously met Cindy and the Labour caucus.
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:46am
- BananaLlama
  
  Everyone knows it will be a bear market you silly mumu.
  
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  February 6, 2022 12:35pm
Yvette

Does Foon promote or alienate te reo
• “That the normalisation of te reo Māori would help address issues around Te Tiriti o Waitangi, the destructive effects of colonisation and structural racism by building empathy, understanding and ultimately allyship.” – Foon
Watch ‘allyship’ become a catch word – its shortness will be good for slogans and protest posters

• “The UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples also includes the right to revitalise, use and develop language for future generations,” Foon added
Foon ignores – The original Polynesian settlers discovered New Zealand during planned voyages of exploration, navigating by ocean currents, the winds, and stars.
https://www.learnz.org.nz/location192/bg-standard-f/māori-arrival-in-aotearoa
Maori ancestors were the nation’s first immigrants

• Foon said he hopes discussion with politicans continue with the goal to implement compulsory te reo Māori for year 10 students at least.

Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent each year on te reo –
The Government will invest over $900 million in response to COVID-19 to support our whānau, tamariki and all Māori so we can rebuild together, Māori ministers announced today.
“Today we announced an extra $200 million of funding for Te Kōhanga Reo. This will help ensure kaiako are adequately paid and learning facilities are in good condition in order to support the revitalisation of te reo Māori.
“This Budget provides an extra $40 million which will go a long way in helping us tackle the housing challenges Māori face through our MAIHI (Māori and Iwi Housing Initiative) programme,” Nanaia Mahuta said.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/more-900-million-support-māori-we-rebuild-together
More seems to be spent on language, yet again, than housing. $40m would by about 20 houses equal to Adern’s Auckland house.

But “Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent each year on te reo” – get a total for that (some estimates are $600m a year!) and find out how that is spent (no one seems to know) before committing to throwing more after it for compulsory teaching – if you can find approved teachers to even start with.
And Compulsory? For so long it has been emphasised, and now results in a considerable numbers of the population alienated over a small injection in the arm, so how about this Foon–proposed compulsorily mandated injection in the brain?
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February 6, 2022 9:59am
Aunty

If you really want to talk about Fear Porn, then this article by Liam Dann in today’s NZ Herald is it.

Liam Dann: Is your KiwiSaver next? Why Meta’s meltdown is a wake-up call

I don’t rate Dann at all. I think that he is not very good at his job as a financial journalist, as he is prone to making extravagant doom and gloom claims about future events which are little more than speculation. He would be better off writing the horoscope section of the paper as that is where his articles firmly belong in my view.

Nevertheless the uninformed, or the ignorant who simply don’t know any better, may take his articles as something authoritative and act accordingly. Maybe he knows something or has heard something they might think? They would be very foolish to do so. Sure, he may get things right one day, even a stopped watch tells the time correctly twice a day, but any success is more likely due to chance than good analysis.

Over the course of sharemarket history, all sharemarkets go through periods of extreme enthusiasm and extreme pessimism. Prices can rise to ridiculous levels and fall to equally ridiculous levels. This is as revelatory as saying the sun rises and sets in a day. Studies have consistently shown that market timing, i.e., trying to predict what the market will do tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year, and buying and selling accordingly is the least successful way to grow wealth and retirement savings over time and results in the poor investment returns. It is impossible to predict when a market might turn, either going up or down. Driven by emotion and FOMO inevitably a market timer will miss the turn and sell after a substantial fall and then buy back in too late after the market has turned and has had a substantial rise.

For retirement savings like KiwiSaver, market timing is the worst possible strategy to have to grow one’s retirement savings over the long term. Many of us saw this in early 2020 when the pandemic hit and sharemarkets around the world tanked down more than 30% in some cases. Thousands of New Zealanders rushed to switch their KiwiSaver accounts from growth or balanced to conservative fearful that the market had further to fall. Within weeks the market corrected and prices rose sharply but our KiwiSaver friends missed out on that because they were now sitting in cash on the sidelines in a conservative fund. All they had done was to lock in their losses and lockout the gains. They would have been better off taking a nap.

I advised a friend of mine at that time to leave their KiwiSaver account alone. Don’t touch it, I said. They told their mother not to touch theirs either, something she was not very happy about when her modest balance was down $1000. A lot of money to her, and while her daughter and son-in-law had switched into conservative funds. She thought she should have done the same thing to prevent any further losses. But she and my friend sat tight and the rest as they say is history. Two months ago, they moved into their first house having used their KiwiSaver as a deposit. The daughter and son-in-law, well they don’t like talking about it. He earns very good money, and we think by panicking and fear he may have locked in paper losses of around 50k into actual losses in his KiwiSaver account. He has only recently switched back into a growth fund.

All the research shows that the best way to grow retirement savings in vehicles like KiwiSaver is through a consistent and persistent approach of regular monthly savings through thick and thin and all the market’s ups and downs over the long term. Dollar-cost averaging. It’s time in the market, not market timing that wins the day. Balanced, growth or conservative funds, it really all depends on one’s individual risk tolerance and years left to retirement.

And then we come back to Liam Dann’s fear porn article of today…………. I wonder how that is going to help our average uninformed or financially illiterate KiwiSaver make good investing decisions in the weeks ahead and how it will help them grow their retirement savings in the years to come to generate the best outcome for themselves in their retirement years?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/liam-dann-is-your-kiwisaver-next-why-metas-meltdown-is-a-wake-up-call/NX3PCWZOCBLDGYWED4IZU45AR4/
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February 6, 2022 10:08am
- ecco
  
  If you read Dann’s articles you’ll realise he is a Labour Party sycophant. Always on the bright side of the economic effects of Labour’s poor policies instead of calling them out as he should be.
  
  Same with Rod Oram who was on HDPA’s show on Friday claiming that opening up the nz borders to international travel in October was ‘about right’ as the tourism operators wouldn’t be able to handle too much of an influx of tourists all at once ???. Give me a break. This guy is obviously on some sort of government consulting contract. I suggest to Heather that she knock him off her guest commentator list.
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:24am
  - noodlum
    
    Oram continually slags off Fontera as well.
    
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    February 6, 2022 12:22pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    On the rare occasions I’ve continued beyond his headline I’ve regretted it. On a par with Oram without the ridiculous hype.
    
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    February 6, 2022 1:40pm
Rusty

If Jacinda thinks global warming is a crisis like covid then why has the West Coast taken a hammering with too much rain fall in recent times?

Why has the Eastern states in Australia had a wetter summer in years with so much rainfall?

Maybe global warming and covid or its exaggeration of it is a political con job than a reality.
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February 6, 2022 10:10am
- Albert_Ross
  
  A Google search for “climate change rainfall” led me first to a report from the US Environmental Agency and then to one from NIWA, both saying that an increase in extreme rainfall events was among the expected impacts of climate change.
  
  Looks like they got that right then, doesn’t it?
  
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  February 6, 2022 12:54pm
  - Nickc2
    
    If you dig down deep enough, you’ll probably find the same idiots also predicted mass drought and forest fires at the same time.
    IMO we now have two groups of idiots competing for cash handouts from equally stupid Govts and our Govt has fallen for both scams: Global Warming and Covid-19.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:14pm
  - alloytoo
    
    A google search of any given weather event will attribute it to climate change.
    
    Like accusations of racism it’s getting rather tired.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:37pm
    - Albert_Ross
      
      Indeed.
      
      It is idiotic to take any individual weather event that accords with the overall, general predictions of climate change and claim that this is evidence of climate change.
      
      It is also idiotic to take any individual weather event that does not accord with the overall, general predictions of climate change and claim that this casts doubt on climate change.
      
      It is, however, idiocy in a class of its own to take an individual weather event that does accord with overall, general predictions of climate change and claim that this casts doubt on climate change.
      
      The current rain that we are seeing accords with climate change models, but it does not prove that climate change models are correct.
      
      Even less, however, does it indicate that they’re not.
      
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      February 6, 2022 6:51pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    A common sense wee Think search came up with,
    LA NINA
    
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    February 6, 2022 5:15pm
- SoloView
  
  @ Rusty
  At first glance it does seem unlikely to have more rain as it gets hotter.
  
  This article from The Guardian may help understanding of the process.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/mar/22/global-warming-is-increasing-rainfall-rates
  
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  February 6, 2022 1:03pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    its very latitude dependent (due to changes in Hadley cells with warming), but in general water vapour pressure and so rates of evaporation increases a lot with temperature – about 6% per °C. More heat mostly equals more rain.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:38pm
  - Rusty
    
    @Solo — So I gather from reading your link the more wetter and colder it gets is a sign the earth is getting more drier and hotter !! How else do I understand that article?
    
    Know any countries on this planet that have disappeared because of climate change/global warming ? And I don’t mean some small deserted island atoll in the Pacific.
    
    Why is the dooms day prophets for the end of this world always 50-100 years time when all these people will probably be dead?
    
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    February 6, 2022 3:23pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    “The Guardian” was enough to stop me looking further. It has become an atrocious news source on anything.
    
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    February 6, 2022 3:41pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    “This is the latest January temperature record produced by satellites accurately taking global measurements on a 24 hour basis. It shows barely any deviation last month (0.03°C) from the 1991-2020 average as shown by the blue line. The 13 month red line average reveals movement of just over 0.1°C. Furthermore, the satellite record is now revealing no global warming for seven years and three months.”
    
    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/02/04/this-is-the-satellite-temperature-graph-google-doesnt-want-you-to-see/
    
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    February 6, 2022 6:34pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Its more to do with which way the wind from the South goes when it heads North
  To the West Coast side then more rain.
  Its weather not climate.
  According to NOAA and GFDL (The guys who count them) the frequency of Extreme weather events like Hurricanes and Typhoon has actually decreased over the past 70 years.
  Don’t confuse predicted with actual.
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:26pm
Benedict Yu

After watching this, I am sceptical that Maori visited Antarctica in canoes. This is HMNZS Wellington in the Southern Ocean. You can skip forward to 1:03 and visualise the canoe. ?

https://youtu.be/RMv3SZIEJ6Q
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February 6, 2022 10:15am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Benedict
  
  I have a Masters Foreign Going Cert and have been as far S as 51S on the Great Circle Course to Panama and anyone with half a brain would know that there is no way Polynesian Canoes could get down there and survive let alone to the ice and return
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:43am
  - Taieri
    
    there is no way Polynesian Canoes could get down there and survive let alone to the ice and return
    —————-
    
    Indeed. Fully agree.
    
    Signed: Marine Engineer Class 1, with 47 years of seagoing experience in all geographic areas.
    
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    February 6, 2022 11:40am
    - Jack5
      
      Kiwiblog’s seagoing and former seagoing posters have a number of times demolished the nonsense of Maori canoes “discovering” Antarctica.
      
      Perhaps they have views, too, on whether Polynesians had the vessels and navigational tools for two-way voyages between New Zealand and other Polynesian islands.
      
      Regardless, they’ve kept us up to date, too, with the effects of Covid and quarantine restrictions on tens of thousands of mariners, and on supply chains.
      
      Thank you, folk! And a song in return:
      https://youtu.be/NrAUbJGLZqo
      
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      February 6, 2022 12:24pm
      - fightingtemeraire
        
        Read We the Navigators by David Lewis and he says it all
        
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        February 6, 2022 12:55pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Kumara didn’t magically get themselves to NZ. 6000km east across the vast empty pacific, kidnap some kumara cultivator + kumara) and sail back west to a tiny spec of an island (ie hold the right latitude and hope you hit something). Incredibly impressive work for a paleo lithic culture.
        
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        February 6, 2022 2:33pm
Maggie Pie

A friend from tennis is holidaying in Russell.
She just txt to say…… it’s sooo quite at Waitangi, that Kelvin Davis has been seen wandering alone on the Treaty Grounds, hitting HIMSELF in the face with a flesh-colored dildo.
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February 6, 2022 10:28am
- Yvette
  
  Maggie
  
  William Hobson: “There you are James, I think we’re done writing this Treaty thing, but I still wonder if we should add,’This is a Full and Final Document’. What do you think?”
  James Freeman: “Yeah, nah, Bill – it could be a bit confusing. The translation to Te Reo is going to be bad enough. So I’d leave it as it is”
  
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  February 6, 2022 10:35am
BeaB

I was taken aback to see a poster in town saying’ Dial it down, Kiwis’ and telling me I am allowed to be passionate about things but shouldn’t get nasty. Then the Human Rights Commissioner was on the radio telling us we have been good little Kiwis and we are allowed to say what we think (!) but be nice.
He sounded like a primary school teacher from the 80’s. Could just see the beard and walk shorts.
Why do we have to pay for this patronising bollocks from a Pom?
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February 6, 2022 10:35am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Please write FO on the poster and sign it for me.
  
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  February 6, 2022 1:45pm
Alan Wilkinson

First time in the 21 years I’ve lived here that I look across to the Treaty ground on Waitangi Day and there’s no warship in the Bay.
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February 6, 2022 10:44am
- Paulus
  
  Navy have rationed fuel for ships which is why Navy not scheduled at BOI.
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:02am
  - Russ the Muss
    
    Seriously, is that true?
    
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    February 6, 2022 6:56pm
PatrioticSolidarityNow

First came Greenwash, now NZ is being subjected to a daily dose of Brownwash. According to this slickly timed news, the Maori propaganda vehicle is about to get turbo charged.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018829359/publicly-funded-boost-for-maori-media

It’s definitely time to seriously think about setting up a separate Maori taxation system to pay for all the Maori elites ethno-nationalistic demands.

Happy Waitangi day all you long suffering descendants of industrious, pioneering European colonists.
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February 6, 2022 10:46am
- alloytoo
  
  I think an opt-in to divert a % of your general taxation for this nonsense would be a useful gauge as to it’s popularity.
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:37am
ecco

Ardern must have ordered another covid fear porn campaign for the coming 7 days judging by the articles her messengers at the Ferald are sending out. Hipkins with his ‘don’t be afraid of the numbers’ proclamation ? yesterday and today’s ‘long covid effects’ article. Let’s see what they run tommorrow…
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February 6, 2022 10:49am
- kevn
  
  @ecco… Indeed. The ‘Nudge Unit’ says to do it. There will be a sequence.
  
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  February 6, 2022 1:03pm
Tasman devil

That’s because they are at compulsory Te Reo lessons……. you have to do the mahi to get the treats.
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February 6, 2022 10:53am
mawm

Neil Oliver and his usual common sense monologue and the need for governments to maintain the insanity of Covid regulations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6zDBPMMJmI&t=608s
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February 6, 2022 10:59am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well worth a watch
  
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  February 6, 2022 12:25pm
I remember when

‘Mass disability event’ warning as concerns grow over long COVID: msn.com
The article states that the scale of the event is hard to imagine and because long covid isn’t being counted.
Danish research states that there is no clear definition or duration for this syndrome.
They do however have some detailed data that should at the very least be a starting point for any studies.
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February 6, 2022 12:16pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  I presume there is a consensus among the narrative gatekeepers that long covid is settled science?
  
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  February 6, 2022 3:54pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  It’s the usual mainstream media fear porn based on thin air.
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:10pm
jon

Waitangi Day..really who cares a toss!
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February 6, 2022 12:19pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The only reason I remember Waitangi Day is because it’s my oldest grandchild’s birthday.
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:02pm
Ra Henare

Happy OATS Day.

Official Anniversary of Treaty Signing.

When UTU was replaced by Lorna Order from Westminster.
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February 6, 2022 12:36pm
Yvette

“to tell my child that I earned the right to stand here” –
A pre-recorded speech from Ardern has been broadcast as part of today’s Waitangi Day commemorations – “Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s Waitangi 2021 speech”, is an accompanying video
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/460983/pm-s-waitangi-day-speech-with-togetherness-we-overcome

So I click on the little CC caption icon thingie and get English captions for the English – which really help only if I am deaf.
But they do not caption the Maori introduction. Why not when preservation of te reo is so crucial and Race Relations Commissioner Foon claims te reo is so important that teaching the Maori language should be compulsory in schools.

The Official Version of Ardern’s speech, Beehive press releases – https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/prime-ministers-waitangi-day-speech – don’t bother translating the introduction either. They apparently could do it in 2018 – https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/prime-ministers-waitangi-powhiri-speech

And of Ardern’s words –
Hawaiiki tangata ki Hawaiiki, koutou kua huri kaweka nei, haere, haere atu ra
Hawaiiki tangata e tau nei, kei ngā tōpito o te motu, tōia mai, kūmea mai
Māwhiti mai ko te rā, ka ao, ka awatea, he rā hou tēnei kua hura
Tēnā koutou katoa
Google Translate turns it into –
Hawaiiki people in Hawaiiki, you who have changed your ways, go, go away
Newborn Hawaiians, from all over the country, pull in and pull in
Escape the sun, dawn, dawn, this is a new day that has dawned
Greetings to you all.
– which makes about as much sense as any other Ardern Government utterance.
But Google does this, I understand because, unlike French, Spanish or any Mainstream language, when Google invites you to enter a better translation if you know one, not enough people fluent in Maori do that for Google to learn anything better – and whereas computer always were “Garbage in, garbage out”, this is a case of “Nothing in, still garbage out”

But if hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars are spent on te reo each year, why not spend a little at least on translating the introduction to supposedly the most important speech of Waitangi Day – a speech like others to allow Ardern “to tell my child that I earned the right to stand here and only you can tell me when I have done that” – even if you can’t ell what I said to begin with.
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February 6, 2022 12:46pm
Nickc2

Did Cindy send a congratulatory message to our Queen on the occasion of her 70th year of reign over the peoples of NZ? If she did, I can’t find any reference to it in our MSM.
Am I surprised? No, not really, it’s not like Communists to congratulate Royalty of any Nation.
It’s also not in the genes of any of our current MSM to report such a matter anyway.
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February 6, 2022 12:50pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Seems Our Dear PM did release a Tributary statement… but it has not gone down well with the Maori Party.
  
  https://www.teaomaori.news/prime-ministers-queen-tribute-tone-deaf-and-insensitive-on-waitangi-day-te-pati-maori
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:35pm
lazza

Spot on Liam Dan … batten down the hatches, launch the lifeboats. Its gunna get ruff…ffolkes!

Quote:

“We used credit to avoid the value destruction and economic havoc that the pandemic might have caused.

“I’m glad we did. It kept things working. It kept us working.

But it would be foolhardy to pretend that the pandemic didn’t come at an economic cost.

It would be even sillier to believe it actually created wealth”.
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February 6, 2022 12:50pm
Nickc2

FYI, the collective noun for a bunch of Karens is a ‘Complaint’, believe it or not.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/02/for-the-collective-noun-connoisseurs-a-complaint-of-karens.html
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February 6, 2022 1:06pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Must be “a lie of politicians” then.
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:26pm
Yvette

2018
As a government, we have been here for five days. I have not been on my own. We did not come simply for the beauty and the hospitality of the North. We came because there is work to do. Much mahi to do. And we will only achieve what needs to be done, together. So, in those five days, we have talked about education, health, employment, roads, housing. But now we must take the talk to action. This is the beginning for our government, and I thank you
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/prime-ministers-waitangi-powhiri-speech

2022
In previous speeches you have heard me use the metaphor that ‘Aotearoa will always have clouds’, to represent the challenges we need to overcome today and into the future.
How we need to continue to use every opportunity to cross the bridge, te arawhiti, and join our two worlds.
And how we need to work in partnership to improve outcomes for Māori, and for all New Zealanders.
While we always have more work to do – the mahi never ends – it is important to take time and reflect.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/02/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-says-the-mahi-is-not-done-in-waitangi-day-speech.html

As Robert McKee, Hollywood scriptwriter consultant, lecturing at the National Film Unit, Avalon, before Muldoon sold it (see: this is historical) McKee said when the heroine, at the gas station in the end of TERMINATOR says “God, a person could go crazy thinking about this”, it was really telling the audience “You’ll go crazy if you think about this. So don’t”
Likewise with Ardern’s abrupt “it is important to take time and reflect” but not about the undone work I have just dismissed.
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February 6, 2022 1:46pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The short version:
  
  After cocking up everything else we have now cocked up Watangi Day so I’ll just continue to blather.
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:23pm
Captain Mainwaring

I see Corrections let some dangerous criminal up North out to attend a funeral and he didn’t come back.
Who saw that coming?
Incompetent fools.
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February 6, 2022 2:05pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The court set the conditions according to the report.
  
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  February 6, 2022 2:19pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    They’re incompetent fools as well then.
    
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    February 6, 2022 2:22pm
- Hollyfield
  
  Dangerous criminals are allowed to attend funerals but law abiding New Zealanders on the wrong side of the border aren’t.
  
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  February 6, 2022 6:54pm
Maggie Pie

DANGEROUS PRISONER ON THE RUN…..

Kaumatua tells reporters Michael is really a good boy who simply fell victim to white-settler-colonialism. He is not intentionally avoiding police, but rather, is actively seeking laser-removal of facial tattoo.

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1490084858692923395
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February 6, 2022 2:08pm
Faroffsound

Wonder what Wellington ratepayers think of this:
https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/2022/

You couldn’t make this stuff up!!
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February 6, 2022 2:13pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  The really sad part of it is, that is is made up garbage.
  The scarier part is that people believe it!
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:25pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Coming to NZ? Impossible as long as Grunt keeps giving the media money.
Biden ready to answer questions, ad the media is herded out.
https://rumble.com/vtqdmx-biden-says-hell-take-questions-then-white-house-immediately-herds-reporters.html?
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February 6, 2022 2:35pm
Maggy Wassilieff

70 years ago, 6 Feb 1952, Elizabeth Mountbatten-Windsor became the Queen of NZ.

On 6 Feb 2022, The Maori Party announces that it wants a “divorce” from the monarchy

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/waitangi-day-te-pati-maori-calls-for-divorce-from-british-monarchy/N5H3WQRHHIKBIDZDOLHA6ZKAJQ/

I’m no Royalist and would be happy enough if NZ dropped the Royal Family…. but precisely why The Maori Party thinks NZ should retain the TofW is beyond me.

The Crown will no longer exist here and thus the
TofW will be a nullity.
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February 6, 2022 2:39pm
- JeffW
  
  Because without the Royal Family, we would need a Constitution. Guess what the starting point for that would be.
  
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  February 6, 2022 3:31pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Now why would a country in the 21st Century want to tie itself down with 19th Century imperialist baggage?
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:37pm
  - kowtow
    
    We have a constitution and the treaty is constantly being written into it.
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:39pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Thinking is not strong with activists, they only see their agenda, they cannot see the consequence of outcome.
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:27pm
- Yvette
  
  Maggy
  Is the so-called bi-cultural relationship of the Treaty of Waiting in breach of the multicultural United Nations Declaration of Human Rights?
  Was “They Are Us”, embracing Muslims literally and figuratively, but not in fact recording that legally anywhere, as applies of course to groups such as Pacifika, and Asians, these last who by the Census criteria now number almost as many as Maori?
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:41pm
- MCōs
  
  If the ‘Crown will no longer exist here’ as you say, will Crown land revert back to its original owners viz Māori?
  Or as part of the process of NZ becoming a republic will crown assets effectively remain the same under a different designation.
  
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  February 6, 2022 5:26pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Both valid questions that we should sort out in a democratic manner.
    
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    February 6, 2022 6:23pm
70andstilllearning

I’ve been amused?/bemused? by this stat in the MoH daily press release over the last few days.
Taking today for example:
“Vaccination status of current hospitalisations (Northern Region wards only): Unvaccinated or not eligible (1 case / 17%); partially immunised <7 days from second dose or have only received one dose (N/A cases / 0%); fully vaccinated at least 7 days before being reported as a case (5 cases / 83%)."

Why are they not reporting booster shot stats? They could be (N/A cases / 0% ) of course like the partials, or they could be included in "fully vaccinated" data – then agin they could have "determined" that the public doesn't need to know such data if it exists given their current "booster" advertising push.
Just asking.

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items/more-48000-booster-doses-given-yesterday-208-community-cases-12-hospital-1-icu
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February 6, 2022 3:04pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Why are they not reporting numbers on natural annuity tests? Oh that’s right – it would fuck up the fear porn, so therefore banned by Chippie (I think)
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:07pm
Yvette

Today
208 community cases
Auckland tests total (last 24 hours): 7,847

Yesterday
243 community cases
Auckland tests total (last 24 hours): 9,687

Very roughly (trash maths or “science”, or both) –
Today’s test total is 81 percent of yesterday’s
81 percent of yesterday total cases is 196.8
But today’s total is 208
So today’s case rate may be actually higher than yesterday’s.
Hmmm …
One could think (simplistically) that if you don’t do the same number of tests you don’t find the same number of cases – right?
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February 6, 2022 3:32pm
- MCōs
  
  Yes, we know that generally speaking the omicron strain is milder than delta and far more contagious.
  A lot of folks are going to ignore the symptoms because of the hassle involved, I’m picking.
  My wife has a niece across town who is dead scared of getting the bug. She’s not afraid of being sick per se, but of losing income because if she doesn’t work she doesn’t get paid.
  Just because there’s regulations about sick leave doesn’t mean they’re necessarily enforceable.
  The hospitalization numbers are the important ones.
  
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  February 6, 2022 5:02pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Indeed, many people will not test due to the consequences. Another failure from Ardern and her “experts”. People are terrified of her which is exactly what she wanted to do to us all. It’s the first thing she’s achieved that she actually set out to do.
    
    As for real world data from hospitals, absolutely it is far more important than projections by academics who never seem to get it right.
    Like this data from Israel showing 80% of serious covid cases in hospital are triple jabbed.
    
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/321674
    
    Or this data from the UK showing evidence of increased infection risk after a 3rd jab. Original Antigenic Sin as predicted. Now apparently happening.
    
    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/02/04/evidence-of-increased-infection-risk-following-third-dose-exacerbated-by-vaccination-drive-during-omicron-wave-ukhsa-data-show/
    
    Or more evidence of the failure of the jabs in Israel?
    
    “israel hit 50% d1 vaccinated in feb 2021 when the US was at 16% and the EU at 5.
    
    the mandates WERE followed in a rich country with a first world healthcare system. if they were going to work anywhere, they would have worked in israel.
    
    …..perhaps they worked for a time, it’s hard to say definitively from this societal pattern, but there is one thing we can say pretty emphatically:
    
    they are not working anymore.”
    
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-aggressive-vaccination-campaigns?token
    
    Most of the predictions of all the experts who opposed the “official” narrative are now coming true. None of the predictions of the mainstream “experts” have come true. There is a pattern repeating which is connected to real world data rather than models, spin, lies and propaganda. That’s the thing with truth. You can deny it, but it never stops being the truth.
    If this was genuinely about health, NZ has enough real world empirical data available to quickly work out that the jabs are a total failure for all but those at serious risk due to serious underlying health conditions and/or age. We could now revert to our original pandemic preparedness plan which was on the books for years and dumped at the beginning of this circus.
    Protect the vulnerable, invest in the health care sector. Let the rest of the country get on with living and this thing is over in 6 months. Ardern still has the ability to come out of this a hero, but she is too much of a narcissist and too full of hubris to ever admit she might have got some of this wrong. That selfish streak is going to doom this country and the population to decades of pain and potentially the destruction of the mental health of most of a generation.
    
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    February 6, 2022 6:05pm
NZer In Exile

I’m wondering if the turning tide with the braindead grifting MSM is because they’ve worked out that endlessly parroting govt propaganda is putting people to sleep. They’ve worked out they’ll now get more clicks and eyeballs giving the govt a good thrashing?
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February 6, 2022 3:41pm
krazykiwi

Zoi takes Gold. Our 1st ever Winter Olympic gold medal. Guaranteed a silver, he last run was AMAZING.
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February 6, 2022 3:57pm
- Biscuit
  
  Indeed, krazykiwi…
  
  And did you notice the superb sportsmanship by the two lasses – particularly the American one – who ran second and third?
  
  Sweet stuff!
  
  Congrats Team Zoi…
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:16pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes. That genuine recognition of excellence, even by the American nudged back to Silver was wonderful to see.
    
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    February 6, 2022 4:21pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Yes, and it was followed up by all the finalists having a group hug.
      
      A huge result for NZ snow sports!
      
      The other big positive are the results & experience that Zoi, and the other team members are achieving, all at a relatively young age.
      
      Zoi is just 20, and has metalled at consecutive Olympic games. This is a fantastic result, given the extent of winter sport competition in the Northern Hemisphere.
      
      Well done Zoi!
      
      PS… what’s the bet someone in Jacinda’s office has already sent an email to the NZ team, despite Jacinda probably not being anywhere a TV to watch this historic NZ sporting event?
      
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      February 6, 2022 4:55pm
      - Biscuit
        
        hullkiwi, how about:
        
        ‘I have a special connection with the Winter Olympics, having named my daughter after the French word for ‘snow’…
        
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        February 6, 2022 5:30pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        Close Biscuit, but with Jacinda’s mangled pronunciation, it probably sounds the same.
        
        All the same, a great result for NZ snow sports. My vague connection is, a mis-spent youth with the University of Auckland Ski Club. I was club treasurer for 2 years. This was the era when snowboards were beginning to “infest” the mountain & skis were straight planks, and experienced skiers had skis that were 200cm plus. When the snowboard technology transferred to skis, I was skiing 180s again (the size of skis I was riding when I was 13-15).
        
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        February 6, 2022 7:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

It started way before 2009. Ardern. Do all of you Labour voters now feel proud of New Zealand now?
I struggle to find people who voted Labour – they are embarrassed to even admit it.
Are you one of them? Many lefties missing on KB today. Oma rapeti and all that.
2009 and I thought if this person gets control of NZ we are in serious trouble – but today we have a pathetic excuse. Without Covid Jaspinda is a post turtle. (google is your mummy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9rsxFaq6Ig
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February 6, 2022 3:59pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  If you just listen to it without watching it’s like a scene from Hunt for Red October.
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:18pm
Maggie Pie

Shoppers caught on CCTV…..
I’m actually quite intrigued by this.
Anyone know what she’s done here?

https://twitter.com/ByTurgan/status/1487720170202271747
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February 6, 2022 4:44pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Best to limit yourself to one item/piece of underwear
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1338357/Two-women-caught-shoplifting-items-hid-UNDERWEAR.html
  
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  February 6, 2022 4:48pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    LOL!!
    My partner was saying he witnessed something similar in Soi Cowboy once. Although it was mainly cigarettes and ping-pong balls.
    
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    February 6, 2022 5:18pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I don’t recommend g-strings
      
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      February 6, 2022 5:28pm
Don Beckett

https://futurenews.news/watch?id=61f8a3c91a1abc308b86b5e2

Has this been put up previously? It’s pretty scary stuff. I saw a video clip a couple of months ago of an American bio-chemist who was asked to analyse the Pfizer “vaccine”. She stated that she found nano-particles of graphine oxide – used in G5 structures – and a microscopic organism.
Now, this same material has been found by NZ doctors analysing the Pfizer jab.
Interesting video. [19.mins]
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February 6, 2022 5:49pm
- kevn
  
  @Don B…. MOH didn’t even want to talk with the NZ Docs.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:39pm
- RichardX
  
  How did you text the veracity of these claims?
  
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  February 6, 2022 11:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

MIQ kindness in operation – yet again

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127702486/the-harshest-cruellest-thing-man-in-miq-on-hunger-strike-to-see-dying-father

Doesn’t anyone in charge of this omnishambles have a speck of commonsense?
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February 6, 2022 6:11pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Nope. Bureaucrats have it surgically removed when their rulebook is installed.
  
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  February 6, 2022 7:18pm
jgw739

The Racist Party are at it again.

Debbie & Rawiri want to divorce the Crown and remove QE2 as our head of state. Oh and plus they want their land back, separate Maori parliament, etc. But they still want to retain the Treaty and continue bleeding everyone else.

‘Fellow co-leader Rawiri Waititi said the time has come for tangata whenua to reimagine Te Tiriti.

“If you look at our founding covenant as a marriage between tangata whenua and the Crown, then Te Tiriti is the child of that marriage. It’s time tangata whenua to take full custody of Te Tiriti o Waitangi from the Crown,” says co-leader Rawiri Waititi

“This won’t mean the Crown is off the hook. If a couple gets divorced, you don’t lose responsibility for your child. This will be an opportunity to reimagine a more meaningful and fulfilling partnership, between Tangata Whenua and Tangata Tiriti.”

The last sentence is interesting, what does he envision ‘Tangata Tiriti’ are going to get out of such an arrangement?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/02/m-ori-party-calls-for-british-monarchy-to-be-removed-as-new-zealand-s-head-of-state.html
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February 6, 2022 6:22pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Strange that the Maori Party thinks that it represents the views of Tangata whenua.
  
  It only garnered 1.2% of the Party Vote at the last Election.
  
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  February 6, 2022 8:31pm
surfing

So maori have placed a ‘rahui’ on the upper north island east cost, to stop shellfish gathering. A rahui has no legal backing, so people can just ignore it.

But , the maori claim is that shellfish are almost extinct in the area and need saving (too bad they weren’t so concerned about the moa).

That’s what pisses me off about NZ media too…. they took the maori side only, didn’t give a chance for the ministry of fisheries to defend themselves.
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February 6, 2022 6:38pm
Maggie Pie

Zoi was born in Sydney…..

I see where Aussie are now claiming her as one of theirs!

LOL
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February 6, 2022 7:22pm
Black with a Vengeance

Land of the long white cloud…

OWW – The sound of pain. Not even.
TEAR – To rip. Cry treaty. Wai.Tangi.
RAW – Fresh kill. Uncooked. Tender.
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February 6, 2022 8:41pm
Warren

What a lying bunch of pricks Ashley Bloomfield and those in the Labour Party including the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is for denying that the Rapid tests taken by the Health Ministry wern’t in New Zealand.
Ashley Bloomfield twice assured the public Rapid Tests taken by the Ministry were ” forward orders” from overseas not tests already in New Zealand .
This Government and Minister’s are not fit to to Govern with the latest lies they tell daily and our Media just seem to laugh off the bullshit and lies with their incompetence that is a regular occurrence.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-ministry-of-health-admits-requisitioned-rats-already-in-new-zealand/KZBQFKQ5IH5PWAAZDVPYIEEWDY/
And if anyone questions why Jacinda Ardern our Prime Minister is included in this blatant attempt to mislead the the Public think again she is paid the big money to know what goes on she is the Leader of our country so do your job instead of blaming others and misleading New Zealander’s.
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