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krazykiwi

The EU comprises 27 countries. Below is a list of the those that have either never had a domestic vaccine pass, or have in the last 30 days announced removal of their domestic vaccine pass.

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden.

Most of these have also discontinued mask mandates, and many have similarly discontinued self-isolation requirements.
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February 24, 2022 8:00am
- krazykiwi
  
  Of the those still with mandates (Finland, France, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta), only Italy and Lithuania are not making noises about binning their. Italy is the worst, and appears to be continuing to tighten their mandate. Fascists gonna Fascist!
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:10am
  - Scooter
    
    Italy just announced the end by 31 March which is when they can no longer extend their special covid laws, but I agree that Italy has been especially harsh ie over 50’s must get vaccinated. I guess fascism lasts a long time.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:41am
    - Matt Long
      
      Israel apparently just announced they are opening borders to vaxed and pure bloods.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:14pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        I’m heading from Wellington to the UK later this year. I’m unvaxxed. Currently AirNZ demand that I be nasally raped (aka PCR tested) while possibly infected vaxxed passengers wander on board untroubled. When I get to the Emirates boarding in Auckland there will be no vaxx required, no testing (as testing requirement is driven by destination country), and when I arrive in the UK there will be no self isolation. But, based on rules today, on the way back I will need to be tested just prior to departing UK, and will need to go into MIQ for 10 days on arrival into NZ. It is theatre. Mad theatre.
        
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        February 24, 2022 2:50pm
  - Surely Knott
    
    This woman interviewed on Rebel News is great: “Civil liberties and civil libertarians they’ve been right the whole time. Governments are gonna keep creating emergencies to break laws, and they will keep breakin’ laws cause they’ve got emergencies. …I never wanna hear a tolerant leftie talk about right wing fascism, because at the moment they’re supporting left wing fascism. And nup. I’m not for it…No fascism is good….Doesn’t matter if it’s left or right . Wrong is wrong.”
    Boom. This is it in a nutshell.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1496368832914821121
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:09am
    - cmm
      
      The greatest leftie bait and switch ever has been to label fascism as “right wing”.
      
      Fascism is solidly socialist. Completely left wing.
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:42am
      - rouppe
        
        Yes. Mussolini was a socialist before turning to fascism. He was advised by Giovanni Gentile, a student of Karl Marx.
        
        German fascists were proudly National Socialists.
        
        Fascists hating communists is not indicative of fascism being unable to be left wing, just as Sunni hating Shiite is not indicative of Sunni not being Islamic.
        
        It was Louis a Wall who wanted to exclude feminists from the pride parade because they had a different view to her on trans issues
        
        All from the Left
        
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        February 24, 2022 9:59am
      - cmm
        
        roupe: “Mussolini was a socialist before turning to fascism”
        
        He didn’t really turn from socialism. Fascism was a refinement of socialism rather than something different.
        
        Fascism is really just a more nationalistic flavour of socialism rather than the global worker oriented stuff of communism.
        
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        February 24, 2022 10:31am
      - cjn
        
        cmm: you know it when you meet it.
        
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        February 24, 2022 12:34pm
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
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      I’d be happy to never hear a leftie or a rightie talk at all.
      
      Its just more whiteman speaking with forked tongue gibberish while they steal your land and resources, disenfranchise you and criminalize you in the process for speaking out.
      
      Fascists, nazis, right wing, left bloc, commies, socialists…
      
      Stale pale males. Begone the lot of ya. Leave us your women though. We can breed some sense into them and deepen your genepool. God knows you need it!
      
      Give me the stone age of my Pasifikan ancestors anyday…
      
      Big, brown, beautiful, evolved beyond written language and tools/ weapons only required as necessary. Self sustaining, self determining, self reliant.
      
      It wasn’t perfect but it was a damn sight better than what we’ve become.
      
      Thanks for nothing!
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:36am
      - RightNow
        
        What’s wrong with your women? Racist!!!
        
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        February 24, 2022 10:49am
      - Jack5
        
        Good morning, BWAV!
        
        Are you suggesting a national exchange of women?
        
        Are you talking on behalf of Tahiti?
        
        https://youtu.be/ab_tYof60I4
        
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        February 24, 2022 11:00am
      - Loddenthinks
        
        Chur for that message bro, which was delivered by one of your foot-soldiers who spoke to us, since he couldn’t write anything down. We ate him. Chur chur.
        
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        February 24, 2022 12:39pm
      - Yabster
        
        you have gone off you medicine again Black- more racist dribble from you- how you don’t get moderated is beyond me, as if those comments targeted other races they would be.
        
        Is breed code word for rape? Your gene pool is mainly european now so the idea doesn’t make any sense at all- smarten up your thinking and go back on ur meds -theres a good boy.
        
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        February 24, 2022 12:43pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Heh…no Jack
        
        I can’t speak on behalf of our women. If we rounded up all you Old Zealanders. put you on a boat back to wherever you came from and some of our women wanted to go with you, that’s entirely their choice.
        
        I just think for the betterment of your race it would be prudent and pragmatic in the interests of eugenics to order your women behind. They’ll probably listen, given they’ve been conditioned to following mens orders since day one.
        
        A couple of generations with us and we will have bred all the undesirable elements out.
        
        I wouldn’t say Every woman should have some Pasifikan in them at some stage as some of us weren’t created equal.
        
        We were created better!
        
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        February 24, 2022 1:59pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        Black: “put you on a boat back to wherever you came from..” Lol.. bit hard to do that when I came from here, much like you. You are a bit sad aren’t you.
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:12pm
      - Yabster
        
        either your very delusional or just a sad troll or both…
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:36pm
      - RockyJ
        
        But, Crack with a Vengeance, if all us white males departed the country who would take care of yous?
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:58pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    They trust the (political) science. Once the polls say they want them gone – they go.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:20am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      What they need to do is put their big boy and big girl panties on and admit that it was just wrong.
      
      Say sorry and move on.
      
      Can you honestly see Jacinda up on the podium of truth, look it was with the best intentions, based on settled science at the time, we did it out of an over abundance of caution, we thought we were saving 80,000 lives, Grandmas, Granddads, Mothers, Fathers, Children, think of the Children and kindness………. 3 hours later.
      
      We got it wrong.
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:23am
  - Scooter
    
    Italy to end Green Pass, meanwhile in NZ,
    
    https://apiwp.thelocal.com/20220223/italy-to-end-covid-state-of-emergency-and-cut-super-green-pass-pm-confirms/
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:40am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Dear Jacinda.
  
  Look, listen and learn.
  
  Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.
  
  Command and control economies just don’t work.
  
  You were never ever going to eliminate a respiratory virus, only make it worse and delay the inevitable.
  
  The costs have far exceeded any perceived benefit by a stagerring margin and those costs will carry on for decades.
  
  Only a small fraction of what you have wasted would have boosted our health system to cope with the situation.
  
  I know the plan is for massive election bribes to buy yourself back into power, I sincerely hope the the people see through your little game.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:15am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Given the state of the planet, the rampant consumerism, the inequity, the reliance in constant economic expansion with finite resources whatever you’re proposing doesn’t seem to have worked either, unless you run in elite circles.
    
    The little game is the same game whether it’s the lovely Princess Jacinderella or another stale pale ballhead male vaccum in Electro-Luxon playing it.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:45am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Interested to understand how you managed to post your poor attempt at trolling – you know, since rampant consumerism is the devil’s work and all.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:41pm
  - Vory v zakone
    
    It seems these guys are in agreement…
    
    https://globalcovidsummit.org/news/physicians-and-medical-scientists-declare-covid-national-emergency-over
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:52am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I thought Austria was the exact opposite, with compulsory vaccination for all adults.
  
  https://www.politico.eu/article/austrias-vaccination-mandate-to-apply-from-february-1/
  
  Has this all been abandoned?
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:16am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yes, just last week: Austria to lift most COVID-19 restrictions by March 5. Pretty big protests there, too.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:18am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Thanks that is extraordinary and welcome.
      
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      February 24, 2022 8:23am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      So they made their point and somebody listened, we could do with some of that here.
      
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      February 24, 2022 8:24am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    EDIT
    
    From my ? link
    
    “The law takes effect on February 1 but police checks won’t be carried out until March 15. Unvaccinated people then face a penalty of around €600 and up to €3,600, Der Standard reported.
    
    The government plans to set another deadline after March and send out reminders to the unvaccinated, who may then face another round of fines.
    
    In total, those not complying with the mandate can be fined up to four times a year. A fine will be dropped if the recipient gets vaccinated within two weeks of receiving the penalty notice.”
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:18am
- I remember when
  
  I voted for “Law and Order.”
  But, of course, I voted for the “Law and Order” that existed at the time I voted.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:43am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Emergency laws are not law and order. They are far reaching state powers and removal of normal democratic process justified because of an “emergency”. When governments continue to use those draconian emergency powers for a virus that is less severe than flu, that is a gross abuse of power in my opinion.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:45am
    - tf78
      
      That’s why Covid won’t be declared endemic as it won’t suit their authoritarian despotic point of view. They must be gone sooner rather than later. Where is the GG when you need her?
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:42am
      - Observer of Life
        
        tf78: The GG is having coffee and cake with Ardern. She’s her mate so won’t be changing anything, anytime soon.
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:22pm
Mr_Blobby

What to make of our children in parliament.

Spitting images would have a field day. If that was possible in New Zealand, never get funded, not allowed to make fun of mummy.

Now children you have made mummy very unhappy, you have made your point, now it is time to go home etc, feral scum, river of filth .

On a more serious note, inciting the protesters.

Cindy is not happy and has sent word to her tame media to find and report something anything negative on the protesters, and concentrate on it.

Acid attack, could be acid or ammonia, que rage and disgust. Problem no video footage to back it up, cameras everywhere and no footage?

On the balance of probability

How many protesters do you see carrying around containers of acid or ammonia. How many police do you see carrying around pepper spray.

How many video clips have you seen of police using pepper spray on non violent protesters.

Then a video clip of a police officer pepper spray in hand and using it, shortly after an officer withdraws with the help of other officers, about the time of the alleged acid attack, is it just coincidence or an own goal by police they had blowback on themselves.

On the balance of probability I would say the police officer was sprayed by his own team. If the camera had moved a little bit to the right I would have said beyond reasonable doubt.

Will everyone from the PM down apologize?

Possible false flag

Protest security apprehended a man letting off fireworks, and handed him over to police, he was escorted away by one officer, if that was a protester, on the ground, cuffs and 3 or 4 officers, no reports of an arrest or charges, fireworks mimicking gunfire at a protest?

Sources have told me that he is known to the protesters, they have photos of him and his name, and that he is associated with the government, possibly police under cover or SIS, time will tell.

If this sort of incitement is successful, it is the front line police who will bear the brunt of any escalation, they will also be the first thrown under the bus if it goes wrong, jacinda does have form on this.

There will be lone wolf attacks, you can’t have a group of people and not get the odd idiot., but don’t tarnish the whole protest by the actions of a few on the fringe.

However in the eyes of Jacinda and her media lapdogs it is only legal if it is against somebody else.

Now children you have made mummy very angry.
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February 24, 2022 8:00am
- tf78
  
  Mr B, I’d love to see a Monty Python script of our past four years of this gummint. It would be side splittingly funny if it weren’t true.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:46am
- Nickc2
  
  Don’t forget the video showing a Police Officer who lost his rag and was filmed punching the shit out of a protester until his colleagues had to pull him off.
  Whatever happened to him or is this simply another lump under Cindy or Cuddles carpets?
  Whatever it is, it, not a good look Cuddles.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:38pm
mikenmildagain

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I think the police will be clearing space today for the facilities needed to help the protestors. A Covid testing station, Vaccination Centre and a Work & Income mobile office are the first services needed on site.
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February 24, 2022 8:00am
- RightNow
  
  Racist!!!
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:31am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Yes I do remember a government approved protest, where WINZ officers were instructed to stay open to assist protesters with emergency grants etc
  
  1. This is not government approved.
  
  2. These are not you usual protesters, this is main stream New Zealand coming to visit, we’ll organised and funded.
  
  Not so easy to turn off the tap, or should I say turn on the sprinklers.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:40am
- Surely Knott
  
  Work and Income mobile office – I think the protestors would support this. Because they want to work. How many jobs do they have for teachers, nurses and police who have legally chosen not to take the MRNA treatment.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:47am
- pdm
  
  Mikey it won’t be fair if the protesters do not have to wait in line for 5 hours to be tested though.
  
  That is how St Ashley runs covid testing for the general public.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:03am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    True. The protestors are already being treated better than any previous group obstructing public places and forcing private businesses and public facilities to close, so perhaps any extra care and consideration for them would be overly generous.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:24am
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      “… any previous group obstructing public places and forcing private businesses and public facilities to close”
      
      Really? Do you mean like the government, i.e. the target of their protest? This line of argument against the protestors can just as easily be directed at Ardern, but it’s convenient to overlook it.
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:59am
- Stellaboxer
  
  They may indeed clear space but I can assure you two of the things you mention are not needed. The first two are only for bed wetters who can’t grasp that we are now dealing with something there is no need to be scared of anymore and the third is actually a good idea to service all the people there that lost their jobs due to the ludicrous mandates .
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:42am
krazykiwi

France’s tennis No 1 is out of the Davis Cup. Writing on Twitter, Gael Monfils said:

Hello everyone, I wanted to give you some news following my recent withdrawals from tournaments. I suffered a small health glitch (probably following my third dose of vaccine). On the advice of my doctor, I decided to take some time to rest. So unfortunately I will not be able to play the Davis Cup next week. I hope to be able to return in the United States.

Have ones’ body manufacture billions of cytotoxic spike proteins is fine. Because, well, Safe and Effective™
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February 24, 2022 8:04am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  I suspect that it is not an isolated case.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:17am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Don’t start me. I have a burgeoning library of references forensically detailing harm caused by this generation of mRNA vaccines. It is beyond concerning. The denial, deflections and coverups are criminal in my view.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:29am
    - kevn
      
      @kk… Adults at least have a choice of sorts apart from the compulsory jab/no job mandates.
      The latest facts for Israel are alarming and we haven’t seen anything yet.
      I feel sorry for the kids.
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:34am
      - cmm
        
        “Adults at least have a choice of sorts”
        
        How can you possibly have a choice if you are denied the information required to make that choice?
        
        Do you want strawberry or chocolate is a choice. It isn’t really a choice when they don’t tell you that the chocolate is really a turd.
        
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        February 24, 2022 10:00am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Yep – as an adult you can make your pragmatic choice based on personal circumstances and the limited pro/con data. Time progresses, the data improves and if your unlucky a con proves to be true anyway. Kids can’t do that as mummy’s more concerned about granny. From the sideline you can only look on and hope that the con effect dna trait was one that didn’t pass down.
        
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        February 24, 2022 10:21am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Just today: Board member of large German insurance company blows the whistle on COVID vaccines.
      
      Large German health insurance company analyzed data from 10.9 million insured individuals regarding vaccination complications.
      
      “According to our calculations, we consider 400,000 visits to the doctor by our policyholders because of vaccination complications to be realistic to this day. Extrapolated to the total population, this value would be three million,” says BKK board member Andreas Schöfbeck in a report by WELT.
      
      “The numbers that resulted from our analysis are very far away from the publicly announced numbers. It would be unethical not to talk about it.”
      
      The new data is an “alarming signal,” adds Schöfbeck.
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:41am
      - Mr_Blobby
        
        Wait until the Life insurance claims are analyzed.
        
        Vaccinated v Unvaccinated.
        
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        February 24, 2022 11:15am
  - tf78
    
    How many of our recent road toll is due to medical episodes due to the vaccine, likewise drownings?
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:50am
- Scott
  
  That’s very interesting news krazy. Top tennis players and top sports people generally are very fanatical about their health and what goes into their bodies.
  I visited my aunty recently and she was going off about what a horrible person Novak Djokovic was. What people don’t understand is that Novak at the beginning of his career was a good player but suffered from fatigue towards the end of long matches. This meant he was a good player but not a great player.
  
  He then checked his diet and found out that he had a reaction to bread and pizza and other wheat-based products. So he cut them out of his diet.
  
  The effect was dramatic and he became the fittest player on the tour. In a grand slam he will play for three hours, he will play for four hours, he will play for five hours, he has played for nearly 6 hours. When things get tough he outlasts his opponent and grinds them into the dust.
  
  Given that his success is based on his fitness, we can understand why he would refuse to have an unproven vaccine that can have side effects and could damage his health.
  
  It was sad that the Australian government made an example of Djokovic and booted him out of the country in spectacular fashion. I do blame Scott Morrison for pandering to the Covid media mob.
  
  What has happened to fellow tennis player Gael Monfils is a cautionary tale for young sports people everywhere.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:31am
- krazykiwi
  
  Can someone who buys into the Safe and Effective™ story please explain this chart to me. Thanks.
  
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  February 24, 2022 3:55pm
  - crackle
    
    Apparently that data been misunderstood and misinterpreted, so they’ve decided to stop publishing the data.
    
    That decision tells you pretty much everything you need to know really. House of cards is falling down… and having an article on the news explain that the govt money isnt influencing pretty much does the same.
    
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    February 26, 2022 6:31pm
RockyJ

Hamilton dementia care home reports a Covid outbreak. The Newshub article fails to mention whether RATs were being used to screen visitors.
This concerns me personally. My 96 year old mother is in a Hamilton aged care home. When I visited at Christmas I did a RAT before admittance. Two weeks ago when I visited there was no RAT.
If the lack of RATs is because of government policy that is criminal.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/covid-19-outbreak-in-hamilton-dementia-care-home-sees-patients-left-in-soiled-beds-for-hours.html
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February 24, 2022 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  So after 2 years of this , they still haven’t learned to properly isolate the most vulnerable , you couldn’t make it up.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:48am
  - Matt Long
    
    Most rest homes are protecting the residents and excluding unvaccinated people from entering whether healthy or not.
    Only government approved vaccinated people are allowed in unscreened to infect residents with government approved vaccine breakthrough infections.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:11am
    - kowtow
      
      yer , funny innit how the virus refuses to obey govt dictats .
      
      In HK , possibly one of the most masked places on the planet , there’s a huge outbreak.
      
      To the extent that they’ve now ordered folk to wearmasks in the countryside where there’s no one near you. That’ll teach that virus!
      
      “People will have to wear a mask when they’re in country parks or exercising outdoors from Thursday as part of tighter social-distancing curbs announced by the government.”
      
      https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1635488-20220223.htm
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:15am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    One of the biggest problems is contract staff, who work in multiple care homes. Like bees they go from flower to flower, picking up & dropping off pollen as they go.
    
    It’s a flawed approach that better planning can resolve.
    
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    February 24, 2022 5:56pm
- tf78
  
  Rocky, I remember very early on in the ‘plandemic’ a UK rest home used ivermectn on their residents because of a scabies out break. The result was none of the residents got Covid, but the nurses did. Maybe tell your mum she has scabies just to be on the safe side.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:04pm
Benedict Yu

This article is interesting. It shows in detail the highly variable COVID vaccination rates for young children across New Zealand.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300524543/covid19-child-vaccine-firstdose-uptake-varies-from-5-to-95-per-cent-by-suburb-as-outbreak-grows

The vaccination rates by locality range from 5 percent to 95 percent. That is not surprising, well to me anyway.

My problem with the author is his explanation of these different vaccination rates. The vaccination rates for Maori children are much lower than for non Maori, an outcome that was foreseeable.

“There is a clear inequity between first-dose coverage for non-Māori/non-Pacific children under 12 and Māori and Pacific children across most district health board areas.”

“Inequitable” means ‘unfair and unjust’.

I disagree that these disparities are inequitable. The COVID vaccine is characterised by its universal availability across New Zealand, and free of charge. There is nothing “inequitable” about it. I have been in some remote areas in last week. Even in tiny settlements, there are signs encouraging vaccination and a phone number to call.

I am not being pedantic. This journalism matters. The disparities in vaccination rates are a result of parental decisions. Some parents are making very different decisions to other parents. It would be useful to understand better what drives these decisions. But the decisions are NOT the result of “inequity”. If you believe that, the next step is to blame the government, or white people, or Chinese people or the racist health system, to explain why 5 year olds are not being vaccinated in Gisborne.
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February 24, 2022 8:11am
- westernScientest
  
  The age breakdown of who is taking boosters is interesting. You have to get to 50+ before half of the population have had them. People in their 20s <30%.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:20am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Yes. It is a revealing experiment. Simple explanation. You retain your vaccine pass without a booster.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:33am
    - westernScientest
      
      Maybe. That poll on the reason people got the vax suggested that that only accounted for 1/3 of the population though, with the highest motivating factor being “to save others” (and surely 20s people would fit that as there was not much risk to them from covid). Does that imply that age group were willing to do the primary course, but without direct coercion much less likely to get the booster? Or just that a significant proportion virtue signalled in the poll, skewing the results.
      
      I do wonder if because the side effects were downplayed/lied about in MSM/Podium of truth that now a non-trivial proportion of the population have either had, or know someone who has had pretty serious reactions to the jab, and so are much less likely to get the booster, especially in that <40 age group.
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:48am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Some of that is because the time since second jab varies with age .
    
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    February 24, 2022 12:08pm
- kevn
  
  @BY… A quick look at locations indicates city labour strongholds with highest jab rates. No surprises.
  Sorry kids…
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:24am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘labour strongholds’- would you call that a Kluster of Karens?
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:49am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    “Labour voting” is not the explanation here. Christchurch East is a “Labour stronghold” and has abysmal vaccination rates.
    
    The people vaccinating their kids are prosperous, urban, white and Asian people, more specifically Chinese people. Doesn’t matter who they vote for.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:49am
    - kevn
      
      @BY…. My ‘quick’ look was not good enough.
      Still, sorry for the kids.
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:31am
  - Matt Long
    
    In the US also vaccine and mandate acceptance is heavily screwed to the left, a fascinating psychological phenomena.
    It appears left wing people trust the government more than other people and are more accepting of authoritarianism.
    I suspect that young woman like to have the state as a safety net and are happy to trade other people’s freedom for the sense of security Ardern’s government provides, however false that sense of security may be.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:54am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Throughout history women have been more invested in supporting the existing power structures, however evil or toxic that might be because stability helps them raise kids. Men are far less phobic about instability as revolution can hand them big breeding opportunities.
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:01am
    - All_on_Red
      
      I think it goes further than that.
      Recent Polling of US Democrats show 66% are in favour of Trudeau’s actions against the Truckers.
      They are very happy the working class are being put back in their place with Bank accounts frozen, assets seized and the leaders jailed indefinitely.
      https://issuesinsights.com/2022/02/23/america-has-two-major-political-parties-the-republicans-and-the-authoritarians/
      https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/COSA-Trudeau-Truckers-Poll-Report-0221.pdf
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:06am
      - mawm
        
        I suspect that Democrats, who are registered as such and are decreasing in numbers, have self selected to those who believe governments should make their choices for them.
        
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        February 24, 2022 9:19am
      - Inandout
        
        AoR, and then we have Texans who probably are as normal as a US citizen can be.
        https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/greg-gutfeld-difference-california-texas
        
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        February 24, 2022 9:27am
      - Nickc2
        
        Oh, the irony. When will Trudeau realise that without Truckers (remember them, they’re the ones who were locked up and/or had their Bank Accounts Frozen) there will be a great deficit in incoming taxes from all sectors of the community because Truckers are the lifeblood of all commerce in most countries (without them, there’s nothing to sell, nothing to manufacture, nothing to feed the populace and probably, nothing to pay the Politicians, Police and Military.
        Such a scenario can be easily translated to Lil-Olde-NZ where Cindy’s mob in their wisdom has chosen to make NZ completely dependant on imported Petroleum Products.
        After 28 days of no fuel delivery, there’ll be no Air, road, rail or sea transportation and ironically, we’ll be in the same situation as Canada’s Trudeau with their absence of Truckers and Taxation monies.
        
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        February 24, 2022 9:37am
- Raphael
  
  This is the view of the woke left.
  The marginalised groups (in this case young Maori) despite having a situation with no barriers and the exact same opportunity we have the Wokiest typical “low expectations” for of discrimination where they thing that the the person is unable to do basic tasks for themselves.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:52am
- KH
  
  Benedict. Some weeks ago Dr Rawiri Taonui, a frequent Stuff News contributor shared his view of the ethnic basis for catching Covid.
  Complete garbage of course. He wrote.
  “…….. a surge (apparently) in Pākehā holiday cases while seeking fun under a pandemic sun, and overseas returnees …..”
  and
  “…..The disproportionate Māori figures are the direct result of last year’s discriminatory, age-based, older-first, younger-later vaccine roll-out…..”
  So when Pakeha get Covid it’s because of summer holidays and overseas travel and when Maori get Covid it’s because of discrimination.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:53am
- Simon
  
  What drives the disparities?
  
  Anyway they are inequitable if you believed in science over nature like some sort of commie bed wetter or soft left tweebs like Labo & National axis of clowns.
  
  The reference point of the regime is the triumphant state, its expert class, its caring political class and its magical vaxxs is being thwarted by remnants of some sort of historical colonial era racism. Its the only answer they have.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:01am
- Phronesis
  
  We are told that Maori have a different world and life view and that we should respect that. But if Maori dare to make a decision about their own healthcare that is different to a non-maori then they are immediately infantilised and their decision, and it’s entirely foreseeable outcomes, is put down to racism or colonialism.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:15am
  - graham
    
    I think what many object to is that we are not merely expected to respect the “different world and life view” of Maori; we as a nation are expected to alter the way we do things to accommodate it, we are expected to bow down to it and allow it to rule our lives (for example, there is an increasing expectation that all people in New Zealand WILL obey a rahui, even though it has no legal status), and we are expected to make exceptions for it.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:47am
    - Nickc2
      
      Perhaps some sprinkling of Koha will solve the problem though?
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:52pm
- tf78
  
  BY, Ultra Fast Broadband is to blame as good information is more readily available.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:06pm
- alloytoo
  
  My youngest is unvaccinated, clearly that shows that we are Maori.
  
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  May 3, 2022 8:49pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING

Our cleaning lady re-tweets…..

‘President Putin orders immediate withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine’.

https://twitter.com/Valkyron_/status/1495726221686104067
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February 24, 2022 8:11am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I don’t understand ?
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:25am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  ‘President Putin orders immediate withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine’.
  
  … To be replaced by Russian peace-keepers?
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:50am
  - waikatosinger
    
    He has recognised two separatist regions and he’ll be arming them up instead. No doubt many of their soldiers would have recently been wearing a Russian uniform. Putin is no idiot. He is prepared for a proxy war in the Ukraine but he doesn’t want a real one.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:51am
KH

Protesting at Parliament grounds is one thing.
Destroying the safe and easy use of citizen’s streets is another.
Police should remove, with force if neccessary, all the cars blocking streets.
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February 24, 2022 8:19am
- graham
  
  Does that apply when AT or local councils dump ugly wooden boxes along streets to prevent motorists from using certain roads?
  
  And then act all surprised when the peasants begin to revolt? Gee, can’t imagine why … unless, possibly, the resident who reported that it used to take her 15 minutes to get home from her child’s swimming lesson in Penrose, but that had now become a 45-minute drive, might possibly be representative of a sizeable number of people.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:55am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Where does infringing human rights rank in your prorities?
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:10pm
  - tf78
    
    Some human’s have more rights than others.
    
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    February 24, 2022 12:14pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I can’t believe KH is in Wellington. For those who aren’t, there’s a short diversion up Bowen St & down Tinakori Rd to bypass Molesworth St. Nothing to write home about.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:05pm
Scooter

Have asked several rellies and friends if they will travel overseas this year, pretty much said no, what a bunch of pussies, NZ will remain the hermit kingdom for many more years.
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February 24, 2022 8:20am
- Ehlana
  
  Not pussies Scooter, just prudent. Have you not heard the stories of people who travelled during the bubble then found themselves unable to get home?
  
  They’re probably waiting for a government they can trust.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:27am
  - 7kiwi11
    
    Not just unable to get home but had their pension cut off because they were away for too long!
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:01am
  - graham
    
    A work colleague travelled overseas late last year to visit his sick mother … then found himself locked out of his own country thanks to this government. Nearly lost his job because of it.
    
    I can understand people being reluctant to travel, or commit to anything, until – as you say – we have a government we can trust.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:59am
- RichardF
  
  I would love to go to Sydney and see friends I’ve not seen in 3 years. I’m not worried about catching covid, I’m worried the government will move the goalposts and leave me stuck there with my wife and kids in NZ. However, even if everything returned to normal next week, our priority at the moment is building our savings and paying down the mortgage while we are on < 3% rates.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:51am
- C-Town
  
  I’m not planning on going overseas this year either. Not because I’m concerned about covid but when I go on holiday somewhere I like to enjoy myself. I don’t want to be worrying about whether our Government changes the rules and I can’t get back again.
  
  Although other countries are dropping their vaccine passport mandates, there is still some testing and mask use required, usually on trains and planes. Its bad enough wearing a mask on a 20 minute bus-ride, but on a long-distance plane ride it will be intolerable. And to make things worse is that a lot of airports require masks to be worn too. So on a trip to Europe you could be masked for about 30 hours or more without a chance to breathe freely.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:35am
G152

Our fake news has descended into depths up to now not plumbed.
In order to obey their masters there may or may not have been a couple of people with sex convinctions at the parliament protest.
Shock horror.
Have they counted the numbers there with other convictions?????????
And some-one said Mallard was screaming “Get off my lawn”
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February 24, 2022 8:22am
- MCōs
  
  Corrections know there has been two sex offenders on site because they are wearing gps devices.
  Seeing as that area is a de facto no go area for the police I would have thought that would’ve been a cause for concern.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:15pm
  - mawm
    
    What about the sex offenders inside?
    
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    February 24, 2022 2:01pm
    - Nickc2
      
      Good call! Lift up Cindy’s carpet, they’re all under there. Mallard feeds em.
      
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      February 24, 2022 2:12pm
Opie

I noticed yesterday the MOH covid reporting on their website now includes cases in people that have received a booster.

There is already 3870 boosted cases! With 56 hospitalisations.

What does it boost? Apart from Pfizer’s bank account obviously. Doesnt appear to boost immunity like all the tv ads are telling me.

Will be very interesting to see the daily increase in cases and hospitalisations in the boosted group compared to unvaccinated.

Just stop. Stop sticking this stuff in your arm. Stop sticking it kids arms.

You have been fooled.
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February 24, 2022 8:23am
- Rich Prick
  
  I don’t think I want any more of the stuff, especially if it doesn’t do what it says on the lid. Haven’t felt right since the first two shots of Cindy’s potion.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:45am
  - Opie
    
    Constant headaches, weird arm pain?
    
    Yep, your body has been modified and I cant see it being a good thing.
    
    It didnt do what it says on the lid for delta and it certainly doesnt for omicron.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:40am
- tf78
  
  Why can’t we have anti-body tests?! Or would that be a too accurate defense against their program for vaccinations.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:20pm
- alloytoo
  
  Serious question, is the booster a modified (up to date?) variety or more of the same that didn’t stop me getting covid in the first place.
  
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  May 3, 2022 8:55pm
RockyJ

Yesterday Willie Jackson in the Herald announced that “cogovernance is nothing to be scared of”.
In my opinion this was a massive own goal. The reason there is not a bigger outcry against this idea is because most of us too trusting kiwis either don’t know about cogovernance being pushed or don’t believe it could happen in a democracy
Wiley Willie has just put it up in headlights. Ludicrously he must imagine that people will believe him.
It is as if the captain of an airliner had announced over the intercom “there is no cause for alarm”
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February 24, 2022 8:23am
- Clyde
  
  When will NZ wake up to this racist nonsense – 3 waters, the health system, co-governance in both local and national government? Not to mention the $351m given to maori for their response to Covid, the 20% donation of all future commercial spectrum along with buckets of cash, the absolute plethora of maori on their own TV channels (funded by all of us) as well an increasing presence on state channels. Brown apartheid is well on its way to a town near you!!
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:42am
- alex Masterley
  
  If Willie Jackson is the answer then the question is pretty bloody stupid.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:49am
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, Hitler signed a Peace Pact with the Russians and then invaded them.
    Silly Willie’s not one to let a chance of dictatorial power pass him by.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:59am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Who is Stalin in your scenario?
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:27am
      - Nickc2
        
        He can be anything you’re short of mike. In horror movies, his part is usually played by Cindy Ardern in drag.
        
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        February 24, 2022 11:36am
      - RockyJ
        
        Ardern is Hitler. With its focus on race based dictatorship Labour is more like National Socialism than Communism.
        Race war is worse than class war.
        
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        February 24, 2022 12:07pm
      - Mike
        
        I didn’t realize she occupied such a large space in your imagination.
        
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        February 24, 2022 12:50pm
Mobile Michael

January: Ardern says Covid testing capacity increased to 58,000 tests per day.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/watch-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-gives-a-post-cabinet-meeting-update/ar-AAT6Hhl

February – long lines at test stations and 5 day delays for results.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300523340/covid19-people-wait-more-than-five-days-for-pcr-swab-results-as-demand-grows

Anyone want to guess how many tests were done on Tuesday? 200,000? 100,000? 60,000? Nope: 27,550.
https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/testing-covid-19

Wishes don’t make it happen, Prime Minister.
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February 24, 2022 8:25am
- alloytoo
  
  They’ve started issuing RAT tests at the testing stations, however with very little instruction, therefore very easy to get an error.
  
  Only once you have gotten a positive RAT then will they do PCR. (Which means the sick people are queuing up in their case either twice on one day, or on consecutive days.)
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:00am
  - RightNow
    
    If they can get more reagent to do PCR tests that is.
    Expect the messaging to increasingly say don’t get tested unless you’re at death’s door.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:44am
    - Nickc2
      
      You are correct. A few months ago, every time we saw the Dynamic Duo on TV (Cindy & Blossom), they kept saying “Get Tested” “Get Tested” “Get Tested” “Get Tested” endlessly. Now, they’ve run out of RAT Kits and Reagent and are saying “Only Test if you’re sick”. How does that work and who’s to blame? Certainly not those who are in Hospital or by compulsion, sick at home.
      Oh how I wish we could ‘Recall’ (where voters can remove an elected official from office through a referendum) this effin Govt.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:28pm
Tomtoddy

Our incompetent government relies on incompetent and media hungry advisors. Michael Baker spends weeks in the media telling us how thousands will get omicron.

Today he has a headline expressing great surprise at how many are getting omicron. Give me a break!!!
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February 24, 2022 8:25am
- pdm
  
  He does seem to like the publicity.
  
  Media whore – is about the right description of Baker.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:39am
- JohnRidd
  
  I have noticed the advisors are vaccinologists, epidemiologists, computer modelers and even a bacteriologist. These might understand the virus but they do not understand the disease.
  
  Where is the advice from doctors who have treated thousands of patients with covid 19?
  
  Covid 19 has three treatable parts. Viral replication, inflammation and coagulation(clotting).
  
  Doctors can and do treat these with safe, effective, cheap and available drugs and if used when symptoms first appear, they dramatically reduce both the severity and the duration of the disease.
  
  But what is the advice from our government? Go home and take some paracetamol and ring an ambulance if you can’t breathe.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:18am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Exactly right.
    
    Where are the immunologists?
    
    Where is the advice on proven prophylaxis protocols?
    
    Where is the acknowledgement that effective treatment protocols exists?
    
    What we’re witnessing is the most tragic, most harm-inducing dereliction of duty of any government in the history of our country. The buck stops with Ardern. She is responsible.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:10am
- Rusty
  
  Some Otago university students are isolating after partying –probably not following the rules.
  
  Doesn’t Michael Baker work at Otago University — he should tell these students off.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:24am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    Rusty I’m not sure “ working “ is the correct description of what Michael “ elimination” Baker does at Otago.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:51am
  - curry4me
    
    There was a case at Ellesmere College last week.
    
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    February 24, 2022 1:40pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I think he’s based at the Otago Uni offshoot at Wellington hospital, so he’s unable to stroll down Castle St to remonstrate with the miscreants.
    
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    February 24, 2022 6:13pm
- Jim
  
  And handsomely paid in tax payers dollars too.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:04pm
Gravelroad

The media still running story after story against the protesters – whether there is any truth in them or not.
A feeding frenzy of negative publicity.
Is this just to appease the Prime Minister and ensure the continued flow of subsidies?
Whatever happened to reporting events without fear or favour?
What we have now is a media generally determined to support a political policy and a public figure no matter what.
What is it about Ms Ardern that generates such a protective attitude to her and her government?
Can only be money and status.
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February 24, 2022 8:37am
- Mr_Blobby
  
  Money, not sure about status yet.
  
  But once we have a one party state, I’m sure dear leader will have plenty of status, or else.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:41am
- krazykiwi
  
  “Whatever happened to reporting events without fear or favour?”
  
  The Public Interest Journalism Fund happened. Further, the morally and ethically corrupt left want to bring this reality perverting mechanism to political party finding.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:51am
  - Ehlana
    
    “The Public Interest Journalism Fund”. George Orwell must be wishing he’d found a way to work that in alongside his Ministry of Truth.
    
    We’re becoming like those countries that call themselves “Democratic Republic” or “People’s Republic” but do not practice democracy or allow the people any say in government.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:55am
- Cinematic
  
  Much like a duck lips botoxed Hollywood actress the msm don’t see what the majority see. They’re genuinely baffled when their ridiculous lips/bias are pointed out.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:08am
- chukar
  
  Correct Gravel, with the notable exception of HDPA and Barry Soper,
  They have been trying to tell us the truth.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:11am
  - Jim
    
    Yep but they could try a little harder, BS has too often mischaracterised anti government covid policy protesters as antivax.
    Sincerely hoping HDPA birth goes well and healthy child arrives this week (and Pfizer don’t get a needle into her child in 6 months time…..but watch this space as Pfizer are working on the FDA).
    
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    February 24, 2022 6:10pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  It’s a tribal conflict and modern journalists are, as a class, members of the authoritarian left (mostly young, female, woke, believing that the way to personal prosperity is to force others to give you what you want, money, welfare etc as you do whatever you like, rather than growing your slice of the pie by doing work that others actually value and want to pay you for, ie they’re nanny state socialists).
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:37am
  - C-Town
    
    They want to be looked after, like adult babies. And like babies, they’ll scream and scream and scream until they get what they want.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:45am
    - Nickc2
      
      If they didn’t have lumpy bits, you’d throw rocks at em eh?
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:55am
    - tf78
      
      And, that’s just the PM.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:39pm
I remember when

Omicron:
Minister Little says you can multiply the case numbers by X2, X3, X4, even X5.
Jacinda has refused to engage with the Anti Mandate Protest members, inspite of the supposed dangers to the high number of unvaccinated.
Testing station staff in Auckland say they will run out of RATs by the end of the week.
Members of Government and their advisers state that everybody will get Omicron.
The Government have withdrawn from their attempts to track and control.
So the wheel has filled a full circle and we are back to taking ‘personal responsibility.’
Fact: Contact tracking, Vaccine Passports and MIQ no longer have any purpose – apart from punishing the unvaccinated.
The Government knows this, even Jacinda (deep down) knows it.

Good News: Once the worst of this wave is over – the Government will have plenty of RATs.
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February 24, 2022 8:39am
pdm

`Thomas Coughlan: National ahead with younger voters, what’s going on?’

Headline on Herald website and behind paywall.

Pretty obvious Tommy Boy – New Zealand’s young people now realise the huge Debt burden Ardern, Robbo and co are loading them up with – among other things.

The tide continues to turn.
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February 24, 2022 8:46am
- Cinematic
  
  The best will be on the first plane out of New Venezuela.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:10am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Oh dear..
  
  wasn’t a summer of music festivals with overseas DJs a big enough reward for their 2 years’ of lockdowns, lousy education, lack of sporting opportunities, and inability to travel?
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:14am
  - Frank the tank
    
    bhahahahaha – hit the nail on the head Maggie.
    Spot on.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:44am
  - DeepBlue
    
    You forgot the Wiggles
    
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    February 24, 2022 12:36pm
  - bronny1
    
    I heard there’s a good music festival on in Welly at present. Weather not up to much but lots of music, dancing, and mud.
    
    Shame for those who took those two jabs to get in though.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:12pm
- I remember when
  
  pdm:
  Perhaps there is something in the vaccination conspiracy theories after all.
  Wonder which shoulder they received the injection in – a right-wing vaccination?
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:19am
Maggie Pie

Things that make you go HMMM…..

Clarke posts vid of himself grooming lifelike doll –
with an uncanny appearance to Cindy 🙁

https://mol.im/a/10396569#v-2695818138861812968
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February 24, 2022 8:50am
- All_on_Red
  
  Maybe the Doll is more fun?
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:57am
  - RalphT
    
    I don’t know about that but I’m sure it’s more intelligent.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:13am
  - Ehlana
    
    Are there man dolls? Could solve the man-date problem.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:17am
- mandk
  
  the teeth are no where near big enough
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:58am
- Lee C
  
  … which probably proves no sexual motive.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:16am
- Nickc2
  
  That’s something you stick pins in!
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:28am
- Bridgenag
  
  Creepy
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:21am
emmess

What are the WEF up to with their Young Global Leaders forum?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p1_8-jLQkI

Ardern listed at 6:25
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February 24, 2022 8:51am
All_on_Red

Its bemusing to see the Biden apologists saying how tough he is on Putin.
What a joke.
Obama and Biden did nothing when Putin took Crimea.
Why would Putin expect anything different this time?
Especially since Biden can hardly string a sentence together.
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February 24, 2022 8:54am
- mandk
  
  Biden is about as threatening as an old, blind golden retriever bitch.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:57am
  - alloytoo
    
    An old blind golden retriever might be ineffective, but at least its loyal.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:09am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You think sanctions imposed on Russian leaders and the movement of thousands of troop to Europe is nothing?
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:28am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Since they didn’t work, then yes, nothing.
    Why did Biden approve Nordstream whilst Trump had stopped it?
    Note that after Biden approved it, that Putin moved.
    You really aren’t very bright are you.
    
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    February 24, 2022 12:42pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      LOL.
      Trump complained ceaselessly about NATO, and Ukraine, and publicly genuflected at Putin’s side.
      Biden is no one’s idea of intelligence or competence, but at least has the instinct to stand with European allies against Russia.
      
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      February 24, 2022 3:37pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Apparently it’s Trumps fault according to MSNBC
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:45am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Who knew that Putin would get used to a US president grovelling to him and would expect the same in future? Can’t really blame Putin for treating each geriatric incompetent in a similar fashion.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:29am
    - Nickc2
      
      Can’t disagree with you on that one.
      I hope Putin discovers and publishes documents linking the Biden Clan to Ukraine corruption. That’ll set the Pigeons among the Cats as they say in the Classics.
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:42am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Still holding onto pee-gate I see. The old coot is resembling Abe Simpson more every day.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:49pm
crackle

Hey Krazy, able to help the fine folk in Welly out with a set of load skates? Will make shifting those blocks much easier / faster
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February 24, 2022 8:54am
- Matt Long
  
  I believe someone is using a pallet jock there already.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:22am
- krazykiwi
  
  Good idea. Regarding those wailing about protestors blocking streets, up until Monday I was able to drive along Hill St, right next to Parliament grounds. Yesterday I was turned back by the police. They’d dropped a large concrete block in the middle of the road and I was told to turn around.
  
  Perhaps some of the locals outraged at The Great Soy Latte Famine supposedly caused by the protestors might direct a portion of their opprobrium at the New Zealand Police.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:05am
PatrioticSolidarityNow

Before you all buy into the hysterical western hype over the Ukrainian crisis check out some background facts;

https://www.rt.com/russia/550266-euromaidan-ukraine-history-results/

What’s going on over there is simply a Slavic family squabble. It’s being stirred up by liberal western ideologues & corrupt Ukrainian pricks who’re desperate for more western cash, arms & recognition.

NZ’s future should be about developing a more resilient, localized & self sufficient economy & a non-aligned foreign policy.

Continuing to follow our foreign masters down their war mongering rabbit holes will be the death of us.

Not all of us have forgotten the blatant ‘weapons of mass destruction’ in Iraq lies?
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February 24, 2022 8:59am
- westernScientest
  
  Look, Im not exactly on board the western war train, and I do think some of your points are reasonable and should be considered. But using a Russian state broadcaster as a media source about a war they are involved in will definitely give a one sided view. Its like going to the global times to find out about Taiwan.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:07am
- MCōs
  
  Using RT as an unbiased source is laughable.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:15am
  - RightNow
    
    As opposed to CNN or NYT?
    They’re so desperate at CNN, some employees have been forced to harass themselves.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:45am
    - MCōs
      
      RT is a state owned propaganda vehicle.
      CNN, NYT, Fox are all privately owned, as you know, and reflect to some degree an editorial political leaning.
      The difference is the latter criticizes the leadership on occasion, even their own bloke.
      RT doesn’t.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:32pm
- virtualmark
  
  Pulling the night shift in St Petersburg eh?
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:03pm
artemisia

The below link is from Alex Berenson’s substack.

A German insurance database of 11 million people reportedly shows a huge increase in severe side effects after Covid jabs

https://tinyurl.com/yncfx9ta
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February 24, 2022 9:01am
- krazykiwi
  
  Yup. This story is the second of its type, the first being from OneAmerica. Insurance data will be very difficult for the narrative curators to manipulate.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:58am
- kevn
  
  @art… The pile under the carpet is massive now. Hers and theirs.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:46pm
Ehlana

Police visited a Dunedin student flat yesterday because “The occupants were planning a “Covid-positive party” involving all their friends who had the virus, he said.” The Police advised them this was a stupid idea, apparently.

But if all the people who are at the Party have already tested positive for Covid (so supposedly have it), is this actually harmful?
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February 24, 2022 9:02am
- krazykiwi
  
  Lol at the police saying something is stupid while undoubtedly wearing masks proven beyond doubt to be stupid.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:20am
- krazykiwi
  
  As I’m banned from routine socialisation (cafes, bars, restaurants, cinema, libraries etc) my fear is that I won’t meet someone with Omi. I’m leaving that task to vaxxed mrs kk, while spending as much time as I can bear in supermarkets and places like Bunnings. Channeling Braveheart: “ARE YOU NOT INFECTED?” 🙂
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:24am
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    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    You should get vaccinated, obviously. Especially as your choleric outbursts could well be symptoms of underlying medical conditions that make you vulnerable.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:30am
    - wilderbeast
      
      Mike, maybe reflect on your nastiness….
      
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      February 24, 2022 9:42am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Kiwiblog is a treasure trove of nastiness. Just spreading it about more evenly for my amusement, if that’s okay with you.
        
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        February 24, 2022 11:31am
    - Frank the tank
      
      You should mind your own business before rushing to judgements or indeed offering health advice.
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:10am
      - Nickc2
        
        Frank, you’re feeding an endless appetite for criticism there.
        
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        February 24, 2022 10:25am
    - Yabster
      
      so admitting to trolling milkdud- sad sad creature.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:49pm
  - RightNow
    
    I thought that was Gladiator… are you not entertained?
    I think I had Omicron on Monday morning, sneezing and sore throat with a mild headache. Took Vit C, D and aspirin. Better by Monday night.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:38am
    - krazykiwi
      
      My bad. You are correct.
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:43am
    - krazykiwi
      
      .. and I am glad that you are RightNow.
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:12am
      - RightNow
        
        Thanks KK, appreciate your posts btw.
        
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        February 24, 2022 11:49am
    - Jim
      
      No chance of an antibody test though, as demonstrating natural immunity is outlawed here in Pfizer Islands (formerly Aotearoa, formerly NZ).
      Just get your booster and repeat x100 Blessed are the Kiwi Fruit!
      
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      February 24, 2022 8:44pm
  - alloytoo
    
    Come around to my house for a sweaty hug.
    
    I won’t tell anyone if you don’t.
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:12am
- Its only I
  
  This is perfect, the more the Neo fascism hits Labours target markets the more they will turn away……as they have been doing in droves.
  
  This generation is globally connected to friends in ways Labours private MSM cant control so they know the world is moving on.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:57am
  - curry4me
    
    I took a bus trip in Christchurch yeaterday. I was wearing my This Mask is as useless as the government, mask. One of the Year 9 kids said: “Cool mask” I said yes, the pollies making you wear them should be in jail for child abuse. They laughed. Then , I added that they should be breaking big rocks with small hammeers. And no cell phones allowed. Thet went doen well.
    
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    February 24, 2022 1:50pm
    - bronny1
      
      I considered taking a bus to get my Omi hit.
      
      Then realised that there are so few people using buses down here that I’ve prob got more chance of catching it walking the dogs.
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:18pm
    - Bridgenag
      
      Where can we get those masks?
      
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      February 25, 2022 6:44am
- Nickc2
  
  IMO, our Police are desperate for a win somewhere and with whatever it takes. However, their hierarchy doesn’t know what an own goal looks like.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:10am
I remember when

Cystic Fibrosis NZ:
“Today our CF community received disappointing news.
Pharmac published a media release alongside the minutes of November’s PTAC meeting with their recommendations regarding Trikafta funding.
The recommendations are inconsistent with those from the Respiratory Subcommittee where their expert clinical advisers recommended a HIGH priority for funding Trikafta for people with cystic fibrosis aged 6 and over.
PTAC has recommended to Pharmac that Trikafta be listed with a MEDIUM priority for 12 years and older, the decision DEFERRED for those under the age of 12, pending the availability of further data.”

It is obvious that the dangers of Covid in the 5-11 year olds must far outweigh those of Cystic Fibrosis.
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February 24, 2022 9:13am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Having pissed away something like $40 billion on covid Govt has ~~spent~~ wasted something like $4 million per life saved from covid (mostly octogenerians) but won’t spend more than a few 10’s of thousands per year of life gained on other medical treatments. Again they are massively economically incompetent.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:02am
- marcw
  
  Does anyone wonder why an American Pharmaceutical Company, Vertex, would even bother to deal with a little South Pacific country? They have the rest of the world’s 7 billion or so to deal with and who are probably a much nicer lot, especially their Health Ministers.
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/10/andrew-little-calls-out-bullsh-t-pricing-for-cystic-fibrosis-drug-trikafta-set-by-american-pharmaceutical-company.html
  
  Way to go Angry – how to win friends and influence people to do the best for our country and their CF community. Nice to have someone like you to support them.
  In Canada, a larger but comparable country to NZ, the cost is suggested to be CAN$300,000 pa per patient. But Angry disagrees apparently. Despicable human person.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:18am
- Inandout
  
  Irw, look upon government funding for health as getting directed to those who scream ‘racist’ loudest.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:10pm
I remember when

Is it time for an update on the cost of the services of the Police at the Anti Mandate Protest in Parliament.
Wages, accommodation, meals, travel expenses…..
What would we compare it with.
How about the cost of some communication and concessions.
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February 24, 2022 9:23am
- kevn
  
  @I rem… The polls say ignore them, 1000 attendees = 1000 votes. They are just collateral damage, you are safe.
  Not.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:08am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  The price of freedom, eh
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:37pm
JohnRidd

The following is quite a good article about how to manage personal risk by a qualified person who understands the disease.

https://judithcurry.com/2022/01/25/managing-personal-covid-risk/
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February 24, 2022 9:24am
- kevn
  
  @JohnR… Thanks for that.
  I’m sure even kk will find it interesting.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:15am
Maggie Pie

As thousands of small businesses around the country face closure and their owners financial ruin…..perhaps we should also spare a thought for the tough-times Labor MP Marja Lubeck and her Caucus colleagues are also experiencing.

https://twitter.com/MarjaLubeck/status/1496012486335942657
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February 24, 2022 9:27am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  heartbreaking.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:38am
  - Nickc2
    
    That photograph resembles a Labour Party Friday Afternoon Pub Crawl.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:50am
    - David George
      
      “Labour Party Friday Afternoon Pub Crawl”.
      
      Fifty people saying “your shout” to each other?
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:37pm
      - Nickc2
        
        You’re probably right but I thought it was all on the Speakers Tab.
        
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        February 24, 2022 1:03pm
- I remember when
  
  Labour: So busy looking after the minorities,
  they haven’t got time for the majority.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:48am
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  The comments are pretty good. Generally on the theme that she is tone deaf around what is important right now.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:14am
- Frank the tank
  
  I could seriously say so many things about that photograph and the appearances of certain individuals although I’m almost certain it will result in a ban.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:19am
- curry4me
  
  Here is a good opening for the protestors. Put rainbow flags everywhere. Say it’s an anti mandates and pride festival. Stalinda would be down in moments. she can probably run faster than Robbo.
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:54pm
Rusty

How come Mike Hoskings can write a column in the herald slamming the govt over their incompetent covid response but on radio slam the protesters in Wellington for wasting their time because the govt isn’t going to listen to them?
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February 24, 2022 9:32am
- mandk
  
  The government might not be listening to the protesters, but the protesters have been successful in bringing the issue of mandates to the forefront of the political debate.
  
  The protesters are winning, and they have no reason to leave.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:02am
- Bridgenag
  
  He took it easy on Robo in the interview the other morning.
  Is that station getting a handout as well?
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:27am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Those are not actually contradictory opinions. The government has not managed the covid response very well, and the protestors are wasting their time.
  But what is most surprising about your comment is that you seem to expect Hosking to express consistent opinions. He doesn’t, and his grandiose pronouncements are very frequently proved wrong within days of his broadcasting them.
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:36am
  - Rusty
    
    mikenmildagain – I’m just stating the obvious — he disagrees with the govt and he disagrees with protesters.
    
    Other than that, I agree with his views on the govt’s handling of covid.
    
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    February 24, 2022 4:09pm
I remember when

Newsroom: “We are not doomed after all (if we act quickly on climate.)
Scientists say ‘baked-in’ climate warming is a myth.
But climate scientists want redoubled efforts to reduce carbon emissions, thanks to a under-reported, more than a decade old, scientific understanding.
That is, if carbon emissions cease, surface temperatures will quickly stabilise, perhaps in a few years.
Apparently forgotten by “Climate Scientists”, until Michael Mann’s new book “The New Climate War, ” the carbon sinks will continue to reduce the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

I can certainly see how a simple fact like this would be overlooked by top ‘climate scientists.’
Hockey sticks to Michael Mann again.
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February 24, 2022 9:45am
- alloytoo
  
  I suspect the increased CO2 levels are a reflection of temperature and not the other way around,
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:16am
  - Ian Boag
    
    A novel sort of thought. Can you say what your suspicions are based on?
    
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    February 24, 2022 10:29am
    - alloytoo
      
      Historical CO2 levels following temperature and Soda Stream.
      
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      February 24, 2022 10:48am
    - waikatosinger
      
      … considerable experience with carbonated beverages … ?
      
      cheers everyone
      
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      February 24, 2022 11:04am
    - JohnRidd
      
      Because the rate of increase in atmospheric CO2 (https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gr.html)
      
      correlates with the change in temperature of the atmosphere (https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_January_2022_v6.jpg)
      
      It is rather complicated and it would take me hundreds of hours to explain it properly, but it falsifies the idea that CO2 drives temperature change.
      
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      February 24, 2022 7:49pm
- kowtow
  
  Wonder if that’s why ships are getting stuck in that disappearing Antarctic ice ……..
  
  ‘An expedition hunting for Ernest Shackleton’s lost ship ended up wedged in the same patch of ice where Endurance sank over a century ago.’
  
  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10541333/Expedition-hunting-Shackletons-lost-ship-gets-trapped-ice-sank-it.html
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:54am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Saw Shackleton’s lifeboat at a very good Te Papa exhibition some years back. I think it’s kept at his old school in Scotland.
    
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    February 24, 2022 11:39am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Shackleton was an Alleynian.
      
      The James Caird is at Dulwich College, London.
      
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      February 24, 2022 12:48pm
      - kowtow
        
        Shak’s brother was implicated , wrongly, in what was a huge Edwardian scandal.
        
        The theft of the Irish Crown jewels.
        
        ‘The last confirmed sighting of the jewels was on 11 June 1907, when Vicars showed the regalia to John Hodgson, the librarian of the Duke of Northumberland. On the morning of 3 July Mrs Farrell found the entrance door unlocked, but no explanation was demanded or forthcoming from Vicars. ‘
        
        https://www.historyireland.com/the-theft-of-the-irish-crown-jewels-1907/
        
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        February 24, 2022 1:18pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Maggie: I have just read “Shackleton’s captain” (about NZ er Frank Worsley) which covers the voyage of the James Caird to South Georgia…and the almost as impressive mountain traverse to the Whaling Station which followed…one hell of a story
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:03pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Thanks Maggy.
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:40pm
      - kowtow
        
        DG
        
        Worsley should be on one of our bank notes .
        A true derring do hero . The Q ship victory over the u boat amazing stuff.
        
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        February 24, 2022 3:57pm
      - CrazyIvan
        
        Dan Snow’s HistoryHit podcast is on the boat and they’ve just published a good three part summary of Shackletons voyage and the ordeal. For me it’s remarkable that after being stuck in the ice for two years and the long voyages yo Elephant Island and then South Georgia not a single life was lost
        
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        February 24, 2022 5:19pm
- tf78
  
  I’ve finally received my copy of “Green Murder” A life sentence of Net Zero with no Parole, by Ian Plimer. Looks to be a really informative read from a geologists’ perspective.
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:36pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    Ian Plimer is someone who understands this subject.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:03pm
- bjools
  
  How are they going to plug those volcanoes?
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:22pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    Actually, volcanoes have very little influence.
    
    The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is primarily controlled by the equilibrium relationship that exists between atmospheric and oceanic CO2.
    
    It is all about temperature and partial pressures.
    
    If humans decrease their emissions, the CO2 in the atmosphere will still rise while temperatures rise.
    
    If all human emissions were to stop, the rate of CO2 increase would decrease by about 5%.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:11pm
Maggie Pie

And spotted this post from ‘Chris’ on Ponsonby Racquets Club Facebook……

“I’m a 29 year old male and still haven’t had my first Period yet. Is this normal?”
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February 24, 2022 9:57am
- Nickc2
  
  Sounds like a Question Without Notice to the Finance Minister.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:15am
- cmm
  
  Chris should also start taking the pill to help reduce teen pregnancy.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:22am
Lee C

I just had a protracted shock.

I watched Winston Peters being interviewed after his visit to the Wellington Demonstration and I agreed with every word he said.

I recall writing to Seynour a couple of months ago warning him of this.

Boom. Sayonara James.

You let the opportunity of a lifetime pass you by, becasue you simply don;t have Winston’s political antennae..
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February 24, 2022 10:12am
- Nickc2
  
  I assume you’re talking about David Seymour?
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:17am
- Frank the tank
  
  There was a shit attempt to de-bunk what Peters said regarding surgical mask effectiveness. A so-called ‘expert’ pointed to a study in Bangladesh as his evidence of their effectiveness with a 11% improvement.
  
  of course the “journalist” presenting the story didn’t challenge the assumptions because you know, Science……
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:32am
- curry4me
  
  Yes, indeed. I hope Matt King doesn’t let WP anywhere near his new party. Instant credibility vacuum.
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:58pm
kevn

@LeeC… Where can one find that interview?
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February 24, 2022 10:16am
TT500

Stranger things have happened.

Winston put her in and Winston might just take
her out.
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February 24, 2022 10:17am
- kevn
  
  Bring it on.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:58am
- westernScientest
  
  or he might put her in again
  
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  February 24, 2022 11:15am
  - curry4me
    
    That’s why he can never be trusted, or forgiven.
    
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    February 24, 2022 1:59pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    And do the hokey tokey & turn her all about
    
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    February 24, 2022 6:43pm
bythesea

What do you think about the democracy project at Vic Uni for their round up of articles ( I think it is put together by Bryce Edwards )?
https://democracyproject.nz/2022/02/24/nz-politics-daily-24-february-2022/

it does include links for non MSM although mostly is MSM

Anyway I had a terrible shock when i read a Martyn Bradbury piece and agreed with it…
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/02/23/wellington-middle-class-woke-gloriously-cancel-mayor-and-human-rights-commission/

I liked this bit

“…A working class revolution came to Wellington and it was the middle class marxists who were revolted!

The Middle Class Marxists want a revolution that knows its pronouns! It doesn’t want the smelly lumpenproletariat spoiling the aesthetics of their dinner party activism!”
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February 24, 2022 10:32am
103PapPap

Apparently a policeman was talking to a (unnamed) reporter, and said “We are taking a lot of shit from this lot”, meaning a lot of verbal abuse.
The reporter re-interpreted this to mean physical shit, thus beginning the story.
Given there is no photographic or video evidence of physical shit being thrown, it probably is BS.
Also, not withstanding stories of police being sprayed with acid, there are no police in hospital. So more BS.
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February 24, 2022 10:34am
Biscuit

In these dark Covid days, Kiwibloggers will no doubt take great comfort in the news that Liverpool have just played Leeds United in the English Premier League … and romped home by 6 goals to nil.
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February 24, 2022 10:39am
- bjools
  
  Tried to adjust customers so I could watch it, but only managed the first half.
  Did get home for the football ferns 2nd half.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:19pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  2 down ticks to date. Trolls? Leeds fans? Is there a difference?
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:46pm
Frank the tank

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/professor-rod-jackson-an-epidemiologists-expert-views-on-sailing-thanks-to-social-media/CISYDWS4Z7GSGGB2TYTCDNFLYQ/
[Paywalled]

Poor old Rod is a bit salty as he sees his 15mins of fame slipping away
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February 24, 2022 10:53am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  A total dickhead puts his real expertise on display.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:25pm
Maggie Pie

This is not good news…..

One of Australia’s largest Construction Companies has collapsed.
My partner thinks they may have projects underway here as well 🙁

https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1496606607777546240
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February 24, 2022 11:16am
kowtow

Anyone up to date on HDPA sayinbg Jax wants to keep the red setting for the coming flu season .

Mission creep ?

On a related issue anyone seen how the Cops and the claim of acid throwing was most likely “friendly , blue on blue, fire” of a Cop using spray on the freedom folk but got his colleagues.

Note too the poo fling claim . Where’s the evidence , you know that thingy the Cops trade in , if there was a poo fling surely there’d be shits on shirts , or turds on trews that could be used for display , dna ?

But there is none , only wild , emotional claims .

Put up or shut up , and the Meeja Pardy need to hold them to account , today it’s the freedom folk being villified by the Big State machine , tomorrow it could be some other “enemy of the state” . Dangerous times.
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February 24, 2022 11:21am
greybeard

Seymour has outlined ACT’s updated CV policy.
I agree with most points but not the continued requirements for wearing masks.
Most are useless. They are unnatural.
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February 24, 2022 11:42am
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  “Mask mandate are illogical: so what?”
  
  https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/02/covid-mask-mandate-washington-dc/622860/
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:20pm
- kevn
  
  @grey… Just being politically expedient I reckon. Trying to maintain some ground with the mandate enthusiasts.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:52pm
- curry4me
  
  What is this ACT party you write of. Are they thespians?
  
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  February 24, 2022 2:01pm
  - greybeard
    
    No, they are quite normal I think.
    
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    February 24, 2022 2:20pm
Maggie Pie

And I’ll tell you something else what concerns me….

that’s the number of Asian drivers who have those Red Tassels with the Gold Ball things swinging around off their Rear-Vision Mirror.

Honestly, it’s no wonder they cause so many road accidents 🙁
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February 24, 2022 12:04pm
krazykiwi

Nice pic of Klaus Schwab’s little family.
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February 24, 2022 12:11pm
TT500

Well said Frank theTank

One of the reasons Sir Russsell Coutts is arguably
the greatest sailor in the world is his ability to
shut out any irritants

I bet you a pound of butter he’s never heard of
poor old Rod (your going to die) Jackson
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February 24, 2022 12:23pm
- MCōs
  
  I doubt if Jackson has heard of SailGP, which is at the heart of Sir Russell’s grievances.
  The latter hasn’t been moved in the past to protest about anything, but fuck with his race and all bets are off.
  I wonder if he will be moved to protest if the Americas Cup regatta moves to Jeddah where suppression of rights is on another level to vaccination/mask mandates.
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:29pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Will Sir Russell make any money if the AC regatta is in Saudi Arabia?
    
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    February 24, 2022 3:43pm
westernScientest

Pretext for a big move on the protesters?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127874580/parliament-occupation-camp-deemed-location-of-interest-due-to-covid19-spread
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February 24, 2022 12:28pm
- Nickc2
  
  If I was a conspiracy theorist, I’d say this has been orchestrated by (……..). Insert guilty party’s name/title.
  
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  February 24, 2022 12:48pm
- tenzing
  
  Possibly related to the police-instigated superspreader event, where covid positive staff from Wellington’s Police HQ were attending the protest, in close contact with protestors:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127811633/challenging-times-staff-at-police-hq-test-positive-for-covid19
  
  Followed by a bunch of cases among protestors 6 or so days later:
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/462127/covid-19-cases-among-anti-mandate-protesters-at-parliament
  
  A good question to ask Police – how many of your staff who were found to be covid positive were in attendance at the protest?
  
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  February 24, 2022 2:44pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Large German health insurer BKK ProVita with 11 million policy holders estimates that they’ve had about 400000 doctors visits as a result of Covid vaccinations. That’s several percent of vaccinated.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/board-member-large-german-health-insurance-company-sounds-alarm-side-effects-covid-vaccines-much-higher-official-reports/
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February 24, 2022 12:34pm
Its only I

You all must have seen this?
Pfizer violation tracker

safety-related offenses–$5,637,014,255 in fines over 15 documented records
healthcare-related offenses-$3,373,675,000–10 times

But wait there’s more

drug or medical equipment safety–above

off-label or unapproved promotion of medical products–$3,373,675,000–10 times

False Claims Act and related–$1,109,688,435–19 times

Foreign Corrupt Practices Act-$60,216,568–3 times

Check it out for yourselves
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer

It’s not just social media influencers seeding doubt now is it.
Labours typical “shut up and listen your rotten little children” politics and NZs MSM deciding its a public service to destroy all forms of natural discourse during this covid response has created a very unnatural and mentally unhealthy environment for us all.

There is no way you can scroll through MSM sites and not think we are acting out a newly discovered prequel of the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

I dont think its just me with this underlying personal feeling that all this is just so very very wrong and sadly there isn’t a single “representative” in any political party that seems to give a shit.
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February 24, 2022 12:51pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Around 5000 new cases today. From here to peak is likely less than 2 weeks (based on Australian example).

How much longer will govt hold onto their pointless mandates and border controls, due to their inability to change their thinking as the situation changes (a strong indicator of low intelligence)
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February 24, 2022 1:02pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  6137, burn baby burn! will be over all the sooner.
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:57pm
All_on_Red

Oh noes, our dear friends Batman and Virtualmark were crowing the other day about Trump being prosecuted in NY.
Looks like that one is falling over.
‘2 Prosecutors Leading N.Y. Trump Inquiry Resign, Clouding Case’s Future. “The resignations came after the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, was said to have expressed doubts about the case, and amid a monthlong pause in the presentation of evidence to a grand jury.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/nyregion/trump-ny-fraud-investigation.html?smid=url-share

Some day, maybe one day, they might get him.
LOL
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February 24, 2022 1:03pm
- virtualmark
  
  Possibly.
  
  It’s Laetitia James’ case (NY AG, civil case looking at bank, tax and financial fraud) that seems most likely to hurt Trump. Civil case, so different rules, and she appears to have the clearest evidence (at least from what we can all see publicly).
  
  Then I’d say E Jean Carroll’s defamation case is next most likely to succeed.
  
  Then the 3 civil cases re the Jan 6 insurrection.
  
  Then I’d have had the Manhattan DA and Georgia DA cases about equal in fourth place. Criminal cases, so harder to prove (have to prove criminal intent). So with this Manhattan DA case it looks like there’s been a disagreement between the Manhattan DA and the two case-leads on whether to prosecute.
  
  Then there’s the DC AG’s case re Trump’s misuse of inaugural committee funds. That’s another civil case that looks worrying for Trump and the Trump Organisation.
  
  Then there’s the possibility of a Federal case for having Presidential records, including classified documents, at Mar-A-Lago. Too early to say how that will go, but many many precedent cases and should be fairly simple to prove (either he had them, or he didn’t, and given they collected them from M-A-L it seems he did).
  
  So many court cases for an innocent man.
  
  My take … James will get the Trump Org on multiple frauds and the Trump Org will be bankrupted. Trump has signed many personal guarantees over Trump Org assets, so that might get messy.
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:44pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    The walls are closing in. 🙂
    
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    February 24, 2022 7:40pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb0HWE4IjKE

Russia to recognize People’s Republics of Donetsk & Luhansk as independent nations.

Biden says uniformed Russian troops in Donetsk & Luhansk do not count as an invasion. [11:12]
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February 24, 2022 1:08pm
curry4me

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2711696262309046/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2732236696921669

From The People’s Convoy.

Well, it looks like Brandon has his very own convoy to deal with.
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February 24, 2022 1:09pm
Nickc2

You’re probably right but I thought it was all on the Speakers Tab.
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February 24, 2022 1:09pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjdtdsBFsY

New Zealand Convoy 2022 Daring 3rd Wave Arrival at Camp Freedom, Wellington, New Zealand
More reinforcements for the good guys. Will Mr Sprinkler come down and say hi? [16:05]
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February 24, 2022 1:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

So now the Government is allowing folks to buy RATs from March.

But Our Dear PM was all against the sale of RATs a few months back…as poor folks would not be able to afford them, and hence not have the ability to manage their health and that of their whanau.

She told us that RATs would be free…
There will be no repeat of the Australian outrage at RAT costs, with Ms Ardern moving to allow widespread use of the quick tests.

“They will be free. I repeat, testing in New Zealand for COVID-19 will be free,” she said.
https://7news.com.au/politics/new-zealand-in-fresh-omicron-scare-c-5375594
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February 24, 2022 1:27pm
- Nickc2
  
  Pinocchio Ardern knows no bounds. Lies, lies and more effin lies.
  What she’s saying is if you get Covid and you can’t afford RAT Kits, you’re on your own sunshine.
  She put us through two years plus of hell to get to this, for what? What an insult to humanity by our own PM.
  That’s Socialism for ya!
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:52pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Testing in New Zealand for COVID-19 will not be free, it will be taxpayer funded.
  There Ardern, fixed that for you.
  
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  February 24, 2022 3:50pm
- cmm
  
  Well cabbages from Mars are also free.
  When they’re in season.
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:49pm
- Ehlana
  
  We know they’re stupid. That’s why they couldn’t figure out for themselves that if they let private enterprise import and sell RATS (or any other tests) freely, it would take a load off PCR testing. Especially since businesses who need to stay open would provide them free to their staff and probably cover their households too.
  
  Meanwhile the government could do what it usually does when a segment of the population needs something it can’t afford – subsidise it. For example, make them free to SuperGold card holders and people with the High Use Health card. If they’d let them, the pharmacists would have organised handing out a few RATS test when they filled prescriptions for these folks ages ago.
  
  And, of course, the Government would also be using them extensively in the public sector essential services – like Defense, Prisons, first responders, health and education.
  
  Like I said, we know they’re stupid.
  
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  February 24, 2022 5:03pm
Maggie Pie

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February 24, 2022 1:28pm
- MCōs
  
  It’s been deleted!
  Did you keep a screen shot?
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Not sure what what happened there Cossie.
    
    All I posted was that a protester from Parliament had replied to a tweet from Gilda…..
    
    ‘Eating raw Squid off a toilet seat in a Bangkok Live-Bar, now has a higher approval rating than Jacinda Ardern’
    
    LOL!!
    
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    February 24, 2022 2:24pm
    - MCōs
      
      I suppose if the survey was taken down there by Gilda and her new collection of best friends that’s about the sort of result one would expect.
      
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      February 24, 2022 8:32pm
Benedict Yu

I see the protest is a “place of interest” and anyone who has been there in the last 48 hours needs to “isolate for 7 days”. As if anyone is going to comply with that ???????
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February 24, 2022 1:35pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/wellington/300525066/live-parliament-occupation-protest-camp-a-covid19-location-of-interest
  
  So Winston Peters and his minders will immediately self isolate for 7 days?
  
  I really doubt that. ??
  
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  February 24, 2022 1:43pm
  - curry4me
    
    Will the cops have to isolate too?
    
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    February 24, 2022 2:05pm
    - westernScientest
      
      na, apparently they were all wearing PPE, so the are not contacts….
      
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      February 24, 2022 2:23pm
mandk

6137 new covid cases today. Coming on for four times as many as this time last week.

That vaxx is really working, isn’t it?
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February 24, 2022 2:22pm
- krazykiwi
  
  No science behind this assertion, but I’d estimate the true number of asymptomatic infections to be 20x that number, and the true number of cases (symptomatic, but not confirmed by testing) to be 5-8x that number.
  
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  February 24, 2022 3:47pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    NZ will likely peak at real ~200k cases a day in two weeks (using australia as a guide), about 4 doublings from now, suggesting maybe 10-12k today or about 2x reported cases. That’s pretty rough estimating, but I don’t think its as high as you suggest yet.
    
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    February 24, 2022 4:03pm
Stu2

The Auckland test results yesterday were revealing – 1,979 positive PCR tests but 1,900 positive RAT tests as well (and probably more that the system doesn’t know about).

Shows how stressed PCR test processing had become, if you can double your numbers by making more testing available.
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February 24, 2022 3:05pm
krazykiwi

Just received a price increase notification from Nova Energy

Electricity
– Daily supply charge, +100%
– Unit charge, +25.04%

Gas
– Daily supply charge, +56.42%
– Unit charge, +15.52%

Based on my January bill, this represents a 28.4% price hike.
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February 24, 2022 3:10pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  always do price hikes in summer when people notice less.
  
  What is the reason for this? Gas and coal running out in NZ?
  
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  February 24, 2022 3:48pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Actually, Taranaki gas production volumes have risen sharply in the last year or so
    
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    February 24, 2022 6:54pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  That %age hike number’s all in your mind kk – Robbo, Adri, and others who “know” have all assured us that inflation’s pretty close to it’s high and will start decreasing later this year!!!
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:54pm
- bjools
  
  They’re slow, got that from Contact a month ago.
  At about the same time, I got a cold call (knock at the door), from a company called “”solar zero”.
  I looked at it, it seems, it will save me money.
  Please do not think this is advertising, I do not own shares of the such.
  It just seems like an option to look at.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:04pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Holy guacamole!
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:52pm
- [email protected]
  
  Time to look into solar panels. We are getting a return on our investment of over 6%. If that gets known widely it will help arrest the increase in electricity pricec increases.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:26pm
Maggie Pie

Thort this worth sharing with the group…

A bestie has just tweeted about her ONE & ONLY encounter with ClarkE on Twitter 😛

https://twitter.com/PebblesHooper/status/1496658311256883201
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February 24, 2022 3:13pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Is it true that Clarke has a new gig ‘coaching’ the midweek ladies at the Otahuhu Tennis Club?
  
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  February 24, 2022 3:46pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Two raging narcissists playing handbags-at-dawn.
  Old news and who cares.
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:21pm
westernScientest

The PM must be hating this:

https://media.scribblelive.com/2022/2/24/a0261597-7e4b-4fcb-9199-463d66c18119.mp4

Cant even go to a school without the peasants telling her how they feel any more
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February 24, 2022 3:28pm
- curry4me
  
  I guess Grant Robertson is busy asking the age old question “Why not me”? more often these days. I wonder who else is?
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:38pm
  - westernScientest
    
    haha you have to wonder who would be dumb enough to want that poison chalice
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:33pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Willie Jackson and Nania Mahuta are lining themselves up as Nos 1 and 2.
    
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    February 24, 2022 9:21pm
surfing

Nova just increased our electricity price by 25%, and gas by 14%.

Seems excessive, but will shop around.
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February 24, 2022 3:59pm
- [email protected]
  
  Maybe that will help increase solar panel sales.
  
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  February 24, 2022 8:14pm
kowtow

Where did these journos go to school.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/the-country/audio/christopher-luxon-reign-in-the-governments-spending/

Long to reign over us
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February 24, 2022 4:08pm
- Prince
  
  Russell Brown’s Propaganda Polytech
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:21pm
alloytoo

So, another day with Covid.

Worst part of the day was the PCR test.

Tuesday night was full of incoherent fever dreams
Wednesday boasted a fever (chills) and inability to concentrate.
Wednesday night wasn’t too bad but the early to bed resulted in early to rise.

Cough and phlegm are a feature of today, occasional shivers and aches.
I was able to work for about 5 hours today (lucky to be able to work from home)

Gratified to receive many gracious offers to source groceries. We are fully stocked, but I did make an order for some snacks and soups for tomorrow from the store.

Craving Biltong, but that’s psychological.

3/4 family members are double vaxxed, youngest isn’t at all, but he doesn’t appear to be any worse than us, which contradicts government propaganda, but confirms January Data out of the UK.

Eldest spawn, he who brought the pestilence into the house, has a lot more energy today, he seems to be a day ahead of me symptom wise.

Everyone in the family has had worse flu.
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February 24, 2022 4:17pm
Maggie Pie

RUSSIA DECLARES WAR ON UKRAINE.

– NZH

https://youtu.be/pmwmuPTa0To
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February 24, 2022 4:25pm
70andstilllearning

Is just me or have other users “lost” the links sections on the screens right hand side in today’s posts? Just curious?
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February 24, 2022 4:37pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Been missing for a few days, now.
  
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  February 24, 2022 4:59pm
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    Ta Maggy – guess I was just didn’t notice . 🙂
    
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    February 24, 2022 5:25pm
lifesgood

News reports say that Jacinda had to be whisked away from a school visit to avoid protesters. What is wrong with this woman? The country is falling apart and she’s going to schools to visit little kids and plant trees. What an absolute disgrace of a PM. And, NO, Winston, visiting the protesters in Wellington does not change the fact you put this waste of space in power. I will never forgive or forget.
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February 24, 2022 4:39pm
- curry4me
  
  Wow, things must be bad if she is facing protests at schools. I guess the Teachers Union are still on side though. I agree with your sentiments on WP.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:44pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Winnie was a nasty piece of work back in the ‘70s. Nothing’s ever changed.
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:56pm
In Vino Veritas

Another one late in the day. Two of the lead prosecutors in the Manhattan DA’s investigation into Donald Trump’s business practices have resigned. One of them has been involved in the case for many years. As a refresher, the Grand Jury assembled more than a month ago has yet to hear from any witness, and their term expires end of April. Sounds like the DA has issues with whether he has a case or not. Whoops. Or should I say “tick tock”.
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February 24, 2022 4:40pm
Littletramp

Putin seems to have accepted the advice received this week from the worldly Nanaia Mahuta – “just tell them you are doing one thing, like providing security support, then just go ahead and send troops in sufficient force to take back the region because they have no way of stopping you like it or not.”
“We have had success in NZ using these tactics with He Puapua and Maori Trustee referenda for local bodies – nearly got 3 waters across the line but as my white brother from another mother Meat Loaf famously said 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.”
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February 24, 2022 4:57pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was just saying….
and who would be feeling extremely nervous right now – TAIWAN.
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February 24, 2022 5:00pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300524830/businessmen-charged-with-making-unlawful-donations-to-labour-and-national-named
Well what a surprise !
China is in full-on mode to take over western countries.
As usual.
Not by military means but by long-term economic strategies.
As they have done for hundreds of years.
And as long as there are NZ politicians and businessmen looking for a quick buck they will not stop doing it here.
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February 24, 2022 5:12pm
- bjools
  
  I’m looking for a quick buck, after this incompetent govt…….can they pick me…….can you put a word in.
  
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  February 24, 2022 5:58pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Funny isn’t it…but even my partners mum has always said they’re ‘shifty bastards’
  
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  February 24, 2022 6:30pm
surfing

I suspect new covid cases are significantly under-reported.

Today specifically, learned of a ton of people now with covid, to the point we are having to change plans.

Might be a good idea to stick around the house a bit, and plan meals a little more efficiently.
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February 24, 2022 5:41pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  An even better idea is to go about your life without interruption from the state- and media-driven fear campaign.
  
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  February 24, 2022 7:09pm
  - MCōs
    
    You suit yourself.
    Personally I won’t be changing too much. Neither will I be hanging round in crowds of people I don’t know if I can avoid it.
    
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    February 24, 2022 8:09pm
bjools

Ardern runs away from yet another protest.
A protester was attacked by one of the parents and TV1 news is asking if Jacinda is in danger. HAHAHAHAHAHA
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February 24, 2022 6:14pm
- kevn
  
  …Headlines:
  *Media playing their editing games, vids, stills and words..
  *ardern scuttles away.
  *Team of 5 million once a dream turning into a nightmare.
  
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  February 24, 2022 7:30pm
Maggie Pie

What a prick that Putin is! He could have waited till Saturday to invade.

Just got a txt from our cleaning lady to say she wont be here tomorrow.
She’s been trying to make contact with her sister in the Ukraine.

SHEESH!!
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February 24, 2022 7:08pm
TT500

I see David No More has rolled out ACT’s Covid plan, basically a bob each way

Oh dear Davy, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
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February 24, 2022 7:10pm
- Its only I
  
  Pee Wee Herman or one that got away from its ventriloquist either way no spine. Covid exposed the maliable Act so nothing he says now means squat. To little to late and to flawed.
  He wants everything gone but masks, ok so science isn’t your thing then, neither is timing or any reason to believe you would be any better than Labour during a pandemic.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:37pm
westernScientest

Anyone got a good link to updates on Russia/Ukraine? as in unbiased and reporting of whats actually happening
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February 24, 2022 8:36pm
- crackle
  
  No such thing sadly, I have a friend in Kiev she’s seen rockets and some explosions… shit scared basically. Shes a NZ citizen stuck cause of our fucked up quarantine system. Tell people to get out but where to go?…. She only went back with the kids because of a sick parent fucking [Deleted due to Language. Mod] of a govt. If the worst happens to them it’s on Jacinda.
  
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  February 24, 2022 9:23pm
Nickc2

Russia invades Ukraine today!
Fuel prices in NZ are at their highest levels in history.
NZ sends Nania Mahuta to quell the situation in Europe.
Cindy says NZ’s problems are due to rogue protestors.
Hospitals are overloaded.
Nurses are threatening strikes.
There are insufficient Covid Test kits available.
Testing staff can’t cope with the workload.
Massive inflation renders people’s savings meaningless and
the MSM sings Cindy’s praises.
How the eff does that work?
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February 24, 2022 9:11pm
- Prince
  
  Ardern, the erstwhile President of the International Union of Socialist Youth, claims that protesters are driven by imported ideologies !
  Why haven’t any of our brave journos pointed out the hypocrisy.
  
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  February 24, 2022 10:12pm
kevn

@Prince… Pathetic isn’t she.
Dragging out silly stuff. With media assistance of course.
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