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NeverMindTheBollocks

Good news! The global population peak can be held to less than 8 billion, according to Agitists.

The solution, apparently, involves more tax.

Whodda thunk it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/world-population-bomb-may-never-go-off-as-feared-finds-study
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March 28, 2023 8:01am
- Deane Jessep
  
  Boring. I’m going to ignore this and look for a more interesting answer to a question I haven’t come up with yet.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:55am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Sadly NZ and Australia are moving to the Left. Labor now controls the Federal Parliament and all by Tasmania State Parliaments. I put this down to the Millennials the largest voting block in both countries.
  I call them the “we want it all and we want it now” generation. They think the State will provide for their every wim. Sadly they will find they will pay more tax their cost of living will be higher and their standard of living will be lower and their freedoms will be taken away from them.
  And they will live in a Racist Apartheid country where race determines your entitlement to Government services.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:41am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They will get the “everything is free” lie.
    “You will own nothing and be happy”
    It is unbelievable how bloody thick these people are. All based on what they are taught by the Marxists.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:57am
    - leoj
      
      You’re not wrong.
      The communist unions and lefty teachers dominate schools. The kids don’t get a chance until they leave. University is no better. Look at some of the useless degrees.
      Then, reality strikes – hard, but too many (mainly females) have been indoctrinated. About age 40 they find out they have been duped.
      The males who gave varsity the middle finger and started a trade are laughing their heads off, and good on them. The elites might be smug but the tradies are killing it.
      Business is the best teacher of all. Real world stuff.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:36am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Tradies are always needed. Degree in Communications not so much.
        Oh, wait!
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:44am
  - kiwikidsnz
    
    Rust never sleeps
    https://nopunchespulled.com/2023/03/28/another-maori-wonderfulness-absurdity/#more-4802
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:57am
    - Matt Long
      
      It’s the new Halal scam, well done Maori scamsters, and good on the RE agents for voting in leadership with a wokester approach, are they just enablers or is there a kickback?
      
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      March 28, 2023 5:11pm
  - Paulus
    
    Did I not learn recently that the Australian Federal Government were introducing the role and position of the Torres Iaslanders and Aboriginals into legislation.
    An Australian Treaty of Waitangi by the outline look of it.
    Will be interesting to see how far it gets.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:20am
- Jimbob
  
  Global population will come down naturally, as people become more wealthy they have less children. The World is gradually becoming more wealthy. China’s population is plummeting, as are other Asian countries, India will follow. This fact has been known for some time.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:30pm
- Bullion
  
  no shit. investing in your population and country has benefits.
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:27pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Hmm. I thought we have a housing crisis. How come Wellington City Council is having to advertise for tenants?

https://tekainga-apartments.nz/vacancies/
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March 28, 2023 8:02am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Price might have something to do with it.
  This is Wellington not Auckland.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:20am
  - Colville
    
    Jesus!
    My son (who is a very well paid lefty State employee!) pays $730/wk for 66M2 but that is with a garage for the car and its a lot nicer to look at than those dumps.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:57am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      $730 per week goes a long way towards a mortgage.
      ATM $730 a week is non-refundable.
      It took me a while but with hard work, (Once I had 3 jobs) I became freehold.
      Our Trust is $1.45M
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:01am
      - Colville
        
        A starter inner city house is a $mil. so the $730 is only half of the mortgage/rates/insurance.
        
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        March 28, 2023 2:10pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Tell your son to get 3 jobs. I had 3 at one stage.
        
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        March 29, 2023 9:11am
- Matt Long
  
  The homeless in Wellington must be hanging out in the hospital ED
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:01am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Cheapest place to get drugs.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:06am
- Waipuk
  
  Perhaps they are wanting the “right type” of tenants.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I wish I knew what you mean.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:01am
Tom Hunter

Reading some reviews of Jimmy Carter’s presidency I was struck by this comment about him:

His posture toward adversaries was one of reflexive appeasement. He seemed to equate passivity in the face of provocation with Christian virtue.

Sounds familiar. 😉
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March 28, 2023 8:02am
- Deane Jessep
  
  He sound’s a delightful kind of boring.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:04am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Maybe not a great President, but a better man than many who have graced the Oval Office.
    
    Certainly, his post Presidency activities were more meritorious than golf.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:14am
    - Jack5
      
      Deane Jessep on Jimmy Carter: … He sound’s a delightful kind of boring.
      
      Carter was more than that. After graduating in the top tenth of officers from America’s Annapolis Naval Academy, he served on a battleship as ensign.
      
      On becoming a lieutenant, he served in submarines as an engineering officer, and trained in nuclear engineering as America prepared to introduce nuclear submarines.
      
      Carter was in on temporary duty with the Naval Reactors Branch of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, when, in 1952, a nuclear reactor at Chalk River, Canada, melted down. It was the world’s first “nuclear disaster”.
      
      The plant needed to be shut down, dismantled, and moved from the site. The Canadian Government got help from the US Navy nuclear programme.
      
      Carter, at 28, led a team whose members dismantled the plant. They each worked in it for 90 seconds at a time to minimise radioactivity exposure. Carter’s urine tested positive for radioactivity for six months.
      
      Not such a boring life …
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:06am
      - Kiwiguy
        
        Curious… did his pee glow in the dark?
        This could be a cure for males who get up in the night to pee, might help their (our) aim.
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:07pm
  - Prince
    
    Still, a pleasant respite from the corruption that came before.
    Sound familiar ?
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:27am
- krazykiwi
  
  Love your expert focus on this
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:16am
  - Deane Jessep
    
    I see what you did there.
    
    And I’m only commenting because that’s not boring and I’m bored.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I did not follow American Politics back then, but I do remember sort of liking him.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:03am
Mike

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Happy 100th birthday to the Royal Forest and Bird Protection Society of New Zealand!
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March 28, 2023 8:03am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  100? In hospice care yet?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:31am
- Deane Jessep
  
  That’s interesting. 100th is a quite special number. I even went and looked it up and found this exciting article: https://www.forestandbird.org.nz/resources/forest-bird-celebrates-100-years-conservation-mahi#:~:text=Aotearoa%20New%20Zealand%27s%20longest%2Drunning,the%20motu%20this%20coming%20weekend.
  
  Shame it says they are celebrating 100 years of conservation “mahi” and no one has ever told me what that word means.
  
  Boring.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:09am
  - Matt Long
    
    They once did conservation, now they concentrate on taking away property rights.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:51am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “mahi” means a “kai” bro. Mahi-mahi is a fish, nice fish.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:09am
    - Mike
      
      Means work or undertaking, deed, etc, Steve
      Mahimahi means copulation in te reo, but the fish is named from a Hawaiian term for very strong. Jack5 might prefer to see it referred to as the dolphinfish, or Coryphaena hippurus.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:19am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I know that Mike.
        You fail again at not recognising satire, but you got an uptick for delivering.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:26am
  - Jack5
    
    In the article linked to by Deane Jessep, Forest and Bird take credit for keeping the level of Lake Manapouri down – “saving the lake”.
    
    An Otago professor was the initial person to alert the country to what was happening.
    
    The Save Manapouri campaign got people behind it only after Ron McLean, a Southland farmer and World War 2 Bomber Command pilot, led a successful “Save Manapouri” campaign throughout the country.
    
    McLean launched his campaign in a hall in Invercargill in October 1969. It was a political gathering as gently different from today’s raucous rallies as you could imagine. A local lady played a classical piano piece in breaks between speakers.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:23am
    - Mike
      
      A bit more to that than one person:
      https://www.forestandbird.org.nz/resources/politics-manapouri
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:10am
      - Jack5
        
        The key figures in the national campaign were McLean, Professor Alan Mark, and Les Hutchins, a Fiordland tourism entrepreneur.
        
        Forest and Bird had been getting nowhere, and couldn’t have stopped the lake being raised until McLean touched off the populist campaign, in which he was soon joined by Hutchins.
        
        Mark, joined later by Forest and Bird, had been pointing out what would happen with the plan to raise the lake, but McLean dropped the match in the publicity petrol.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:02pm
- Jimbob
  
  It used to be about trees and birds, until it was taken over by the left. Then it turned to shit. In the 1970’s I joined, it was good. Didn’t last long. Same happened to Greenpeace, it was all about letting nukes off in your back yard, but that changed very quickly. Ask Patrick Moore.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:39pm
NK

I wonder if David Cunliffe should now backtrack on his apology for being a man, and apologise for being a white cis man.
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March 28, 2023 8:07am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  [Mod – we don’t use that word here Steve, time you tone the language down in all your posts]
  
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  December 28, 2022 8:32am
  - pdm
    
    Steve – neither did I until yesterday.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:27am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I just picked it up after hearing from others.
      Don’t know if I am or not. At 70 I can’t be bothered with this X Y Z newspeak.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I don’t remember the word or the comment.
    Tone it down? OK.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:48am
- Southern Raider
  
  Has the PM been lied to again my a Minister?
  
  The timeline of the motorbike “accident” and the cis male comment doesn’t add up
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:02am
  - RightFirstTime
    
    I’m picking that the motorcyclist who used “violence” against Marama was NOT a white cis male. Once again, Hipkins demonstrates that he is a piss weak leader.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:06am
    - mawm
      
      I don’t know if it’s allowable to call someone a liar on KB so I’ll refrain. However Hipkins sounded very evasive on Hoskin today.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:30am
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        [Mod – no, it’s not ok, and if it happens just comment on the post so a mod can see it]
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:35pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        [Mod – no, it’s not ok, and if it happens just comment on the post so a mod can see it]
        __________________
        Those types are not worthy of a comment but they do seem to be worthy of a good many thumbs up.
        
        Perhaps it’s time to lose the up/downticks as it seems to feed into the bottom dwellers need for validation and condemnation.
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:48pm
      - Kiwiguy
        
        Probably best not to call them a liar, but there are other terms. For example “He converts the truth to his own use”
        Source: Hori.
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:09pm
    - Sideoiler
      
      I’m picking that the motorcyclist who used “violence” against Marama was NOT a white cis male. Once again, Hipkins demonstrates that he is a piss weak leader.
      
      Hipkins is starting to look a lot like Luxon.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:39pm
      - pdm
        
        SideO – plus a touch of the Ardern deceit and obfuscation.
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:26pm
    - Ruawai
      
      She looked like she was walking without any problems in the video, not someone on the way to ED.
      
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      March 28, 2023 4:50pm
  - Tommo
    
    She was taken to hospital apparently, so it’s a barefaced lie one way or the other
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:13am
  - Mrs_Right
    
    It’s just an excuse. It’s ok when the left do it.
    
    Also, it wasn’t the first time she made racist comments of that nature. She blamed colonisation for the Christchurch attack.
    
    She is one of the biggest racists in Parliament and she has an obvious hate for white men. So far she has gotten away with it because of her race and sex. She needs to go.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:30am
- Deane Jessep
  
  I think he has to forward track something before it can be back tracked, but maybe that’s just me.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:11am
  - Deane Jessep
    
    Two downticks tells me I might have misread this and it’s not as boring as I thought it was. Can someone enlighten me why I should care about the political hack that is David Cunliffe?
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:46am
  - Deane Jessep
    
    3 downticks! and I still don’t have the foggiest. If y’all weren’t quite so lazy I could be not worrying about this lame bit of trivia.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:08am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Downticks are a badge of honor, from the resident Trolls.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:19am
      - mawm
        
        I almost gave you a down tick to add to your array of medals.
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:31am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        You are welcome mawm
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:27am
- krazykiwi
  
  I reject the ‘cis’ epithet. I was born with XY chromosomes making me a male human. If others want to describe their varying types of mental illness with some tag then go for it, but I ask that they leave me out of their psychological musings.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:23am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Mentally challenged nutbars looking for excuses to be nutbars.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:24am
    - Sideoiler
      
      [Mod – please don’t use a shooting where children and adults have died as a means to attack a NZ politician]
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:45pm
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Women are being asked to put up with a lot more than occasionally being referred to as “cis”, but I guess that doesn’t bother you since you’re not a woman, right?
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:39am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Redlining strawman irrelevance writ large.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:11am
  - Ruawai
    
    Yes call themselves whatever they like but don’t start relabelling other people.
    
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    March 28, 2023 4:53pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He might be a sis hehehe, apparently a vid is a straight person
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:22am
- Southern Raider
  
  FoxNews is reporting the shooter at the school who killed teachers (women) and students (kids) was transgender
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:45pm
  - Matt Long
    
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-transgender-woman-opened-fire-covenant-school
    Yess, a woman mass shooter.
    
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    March 28, 2023 5:22pm
Tony Stuart

If you want to hear Chris Hipkins getting absolutely skewered by Mike Hosking, listen to the Tuesday 7.30am slot here – https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/

He’s now saying he didn’t actually speak to Marama Davidson about her comments. He got texts from her when she was at A&E, and her “backdown” was negotiated between his office and hers.

And despite having been Minister of Health, he had no idea what “ramping” was, or that the figure have, as per DPF’s previous post, blown out under Labour. It’s real possum-in-the-headlights stuff!
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March 28, 2023 8:07am
- Gravelroad
  
  @TS-
  What backdown?
  I must have missed that.
  I thought Ms Davidson just blamed someone else for her immature outburst.
  She is an anti- white racist. Her true “colours” came out and now she is being protected by the government. Mr Shaw must be relieved about that.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:17am
  - Paulus
    
    Leave it alone – we know that she is simply [Mod – deleted] one of many that we are now seeing.
    I am sure her many children love her – well somebody must besides James her co Leader.
    
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    December 28, 2022 8:36am
  - Eugene the Chemist
    
    Marama Davidson & her brother Boyd Broughton (look him up on twitter, he’s a seriously angry racist chap) are two … [Deleted – mod.] that have form. They gaslight white people and claim everyone is racist, except them.
    How can this [Mod – deleted] of a human be an MP and not be out on her ear like she deserves?
    
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    December 28, 2022 8:49am
    - Swifty
      
      Careful with that axe Eugene.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:07am
  - Swifty
    
    We have a Minister in our government who is openly racist and nobody will do anything about it.
    
    If it was a European person they’d be gone by lunchtime.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:22am
    - NK
      
      Willie Jackson is racist too.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Ask Willie about the ‘Stop Co-Governance road tour’ and watch him divert.
        
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        March 28, 2023 8:40am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Steve looks like the government’s supporters in Auckland are using the same tactics as the Trans mob to shut down Stop Co-Governance rallies.
        
        That is threats of violence, duly picked up by the NZ Plod Force & reported to council.
        
        Where was Plod’s Intelligence on Saturday, to prevent the “peaceful counter demonstrators”.
        
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        March 28, 2023 8:52am
      - alwyn.a
        
        @hullkiwi.
        I assume that the Labour Party election launch will held in Auckland this year.
        If so I propose to ask the Auckland City Council to rent me the hall where the 2023 Labour Party launch is going to be held for an anti-Labour meeting immediately after the Labour Party kick-off.
        They will, if they are consistent, refuse to do so and will also cancel the Labour Party launch.
        They’ll wait of course until the day before the planned event.
        Why do I not think it is not going to happen????
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:51am
      - kowtow
        
        hullkiwi
        
        You can include te media pardy when you list the folk working to shut down the tour.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:11am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        @hullkiwi,
        The Stop Co-Governance ‘rallies’ are now ‘Private Functions’
        Any protesters get turfed out if they make it through the door. There will be no more., like happened at Orewa. I was there. Disgusting rude behavior by protestors. Have a look at the road tour places. I don’t know where you are.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:33am
    - RoboRob
      
      We have a whole party that is racist and a segregationist sysem to elect them.
      
      Maramas, I was in shock excuse, is just that. She told us what she really thinks.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:57am
    - Prince
      
      She also cannot read basic stats.
      As ‘Minister for reduction in violence’ or whatever title she has, she doesn’t know the predominant problem is Maori men.
      That’s a concern.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:33am
    - Aquarius
      
      Truly is the face of ugly racism.
      Feel free to put the words in that sentence in any order you please….,,
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:37am
  - Warren
    
    This will be called racist but if it had been any of the opposition party MP’s apart from those that are Maori they wouldn’t have a job now because of the outrage it would have caused, so again the 17% who want Co Governance in New Zealand win again because this Government haven’t got the balls tosack one that has pushed the boundaries of racism.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:47am
    - kowtow
      
      Outrage ?
      
      That is manufactured in the editorial offices of our te media pardy .
      
      The people who literally get their funding ( and we’ve been told weekly briefings from the PM’s office) from the regime.
      
      There’ll be no “outrage” as they are protecting their own ideological fellow travellers as well as keeping up their side of the contract they signed with the regime to “actively protect the principles of the ToW”.
      
      Same when the likes of W Jackson can redefine “democracy” , which belongs to all of us , in the regime’s own image .
      
      Te Media Pardy manufactures its own outrage , fear , agenda ; whatever suits the regime.
      
      Climate catastrophe , Batflu , gender or race politics , Ardern hagiography ,villifiction of regime opponents ,whoever .
      
      And we still call NZ a liberal democracy?
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:06am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Return that racism to her and see what happens……….. Duck!
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:11am
    - crikey
      
      Warren: What makes you think 17% want co-governance? Many Maori do not. I’d say it’s way less than 17%.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:37am
      - nathie
        
        Probably only the tribal elites, radicals and radical academic, so maybe in reality 1-2% or 2-3%?
        
        Mind you, have Labour rewrite the education syllabus and hey presto those numbers magically jump???!!!
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:53am
    - leoj
      
      You must understand that Chippie is shit-scared of the maori caucus (who very likely were behind Jacinda’s sudden exit).
      The maoris are in charge whether we like it or not. Co-governance is already in play.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:51am
  - G152
    
    She is an unashamed racist. End of story
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:52am
  - Taieri
    
    I thought Ms Davidson just blamed someone else for her immature outburst.
    ————
    
    She blamed the motorcycle…
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:20am
  - Tricati
    
    I’m confused – If Ms Davidson was so injured by the motorcyle, and needing hospital treatment, how come she can walk down the road with a bunch of supporters being interviewed, or was the motorcycle incident after the interview which will make both her and Hipkins full of crap.
    Can someone in the MSM do the time line, as this is in the public interest as to the honesty of our Government MP’s.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:34am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Don’t be silly – the job of the msm is to hold the opposition to account. Not the bloody government!
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:15pm
- Swifty
  
  Risible.
  
  Coming up to six full years in control and 1. he doesn’t know what’s going on 2. Cannot talk numbers at all 3. Admits the health system is not delivering what NZers need and 4. Cannot say when it will.
  
  Lovely. Just lovely.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:19am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    Just as well the health reforms are going about as swimmingly as the reforms to tertiary education!
    
    NZ getting kindness, and good old fashioned communism, good and hard.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:47am
- herb1
  
  A lot of Ah ah ahs going on there with Hipkins.
  Clearly nothing seriously wrong with Davidson as Hipkins said he was texting her in ED.
  If there was any concern about her she would have been ushered straight through to medical staff.
  And why is she using a cellphone in spaces that don’t allow cellphone use
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:25am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe it was “Ramping” and was not inside? Anyway, cellphone restriction areas don’t apply to the left.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:44am
  - lemuzz
    
    She seemed fine when she made the comment. She even had a smile on her face. Excuse after excuse by both Chippie and her.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:28am
    - Prophetess
      
      Not just a smile – smug and self satisfied – as all heck – No “shock” or distress seen at all in her demeanour
      
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      March 28, 2023 6:57pm
- NK
  
  Hosking also caught out another leader of a major political party this morning who stumbled and mumbled his way through the Davidson fiasco, refusing to say whether he would have sacked her, and pathetically banging on about free speech.
  
  Would you kindly share that interview, Tony?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:26am
  - double d
    
    Odd comment- if you want to make a point – make it. Assume Luxon was interviewed which is your point?
    
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    March 28, 2023 7:00pm
- nathie
  
  Makes one wonder … if the Prime Minister won’t speak to one of his associate Ministers, is it because he is scared of her (as a stroppy activist), or could it be that Marama Davidson may be intimidating and may be a bully?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:29am
- rouppe
  
  Not a backdown a “clarification”.
  
  But notice, no one has heard her articulate that clarification. All done by ~~communications consultants~~ announcement from third parties.
  
  She’s not resiled from those comments one little bit
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:40am
  - sirknz
    
    My thoughts exactly, what was the clarification?
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:13am
    - rouppe
      
      That violence that is committed by “cis white men” is actually caused by “men”.
      
      But again, I haven’t heard her say that, only the comms people via press release and third hand from Hipkins via some texts he had with Davidson…
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:31am
      - Matt Long
        
        Wasn’t that the whole point of the original demonstration, protection for women from men?
        
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        March 28, 2023 5:30pm
- Random T Person
  
  Never mind that, check out how David Seymour absolutely savages both Marama and Chippie in this interview: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/david-seymour-act-leader-says-if-he-were-pm-he-would-have-sacked-marama-davidson-after-comments-at-posie-parker-counter-protest/
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:45am
  - alex Masterley
    
    I laughed my arse off when i listened to that interview.
    Chippie is a walking talking failure.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:01am
    - Random T Person
      
      So did I Alex, especially when Seymour said it’s hard to tell if Marama was not her usual self because ‘she’s always a bit off the hook’ followed up with numerous examples of absurd behaviour.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:30am
    - Thought Criminal
      
      How long before Chris refuses to go on Hosking’s show like his failure predecessor.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:39am
  - Paulus
    
    David Seymour can afford to be strident in his view of Marama as he will only be a possible small portion of any National led Government – so what he says is not really other than a good PR stunt.
    And he gets the media to !
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:29am
- jon
  
  Absolute train wreck for Hipkins, Mike owned him, guess ZB will get a call from the 9th floor saying Hipkins wont be available for future interviews.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:58am
  - nathie
    
    Poor Chippie lept out of one deep frying pan into another.
    
    Flicked the radio over to Tova FM to hear her also giving Hipkins a bit of a grilling about Marama Davidson and those comments of hers made as an associate Minister (supposedly assisting with the violence prevention portfolio and being wrong).
    
    Hipkins also sounded like his chips were cooked as he deflected.
    
    Interesting (and pleased) to hear Tova grill him on the lack of Police presence at the protest and that she saw videos of Women speakers/supporters getting attacked. Hipkins of course deflected but suspect Tova might revisit this upon him so Hipkins ought to get a handle on the situation, particularly if the other MSM wake up and ask those same questions.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:40am
    - Paulus
      
      Who is Tova – wasn’t she the person who shared living accommodation with our Jacinda ?
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:30am
      - Tricati
        
        Yep – Then she went and set up her own radio show in an attempt to take down Mike Hosking, and fell flat on her arse, as the ratings show.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:59am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        In desperation to save her salary, Tova has suddenly remembered what it is to be a journalist.
        
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        March 28, 2023 7:59pm
  - oldgolfer
    
    Election too close not to appear now.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:06am
  - Phronesis
    
    And ZB’s response should be we will keep playing the last interview until he fronts for a new one.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:10am
- Brian McDonald
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  I just read about this Tony and I wondered who on KB would be upset about it. Perhaps “white cis men” whatever that is?
  There’ll unlikely be anybody in my neck woods worried about it, in fact, there may be laughter. A kid’s insult from the 50s and 60s with no connection to its Latin origins understood but standing for what might have been a “Cissie” game like soccer compared to rugby.
  Meanwhile, the unmarried leader of Act, half-pint David, is all up in arms – or maybe its high heels calling for the wounded wahine’s resignation.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:06am
  - Burtland
    
    the only wounds on the wahine were self inflected
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:59am
- Deane Jessep
  
  That’s not entirely boring.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:13am
- David Garrett
  
  That link doesn’t contain Hosking talking to anyone other than himself
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:16am
- pdm
  
  Inv -maybe he was thinking of a cricket shot which is in vogue these days but never existed when I played cricket.
  
  Then again – would Chippy know what Cricket is.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:30am
- Matt Long
  
  Rachael Smalley is less than impressed with the Greens, I think the weekend’s events jumped the shark with a lot of people.
  Now the Greens have refused to be interviewed about stirring up hatred for women perhaps Smalley could interview Wood, who apparently thinks her views are vile?
  https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/03/28/knock-me-down-with-a-feather-i-agree-with-rachel-smalley/
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:56am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  So she did change her racist ideology, she was told to hide her true racist feelings
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:23am
- Southern Raider
  
  Just some comments from radical left stating what Davidson said was correct but that because they need to win the election the left shouldn’t be say Jb those things out loud eg will scare off middle voters
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:46am
- oldfella
  
  If Marama went to A&E, I wonder if she had to wait for 6 hours to be examined. You know, like the rest of us. //
  And I’m wondering how long it will take for some enterprising journo (fast vanishing species) to dig around to see if she even went to hospital.
  I think her whole story stinks.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:08am
Maggie Pie

More on the Marama Davidson debacle…

“Heard Chris Luxon on with the Hosk earlier.
I get the distinct feeling he’s just NOT reading the room”

– Me (KBGD @8:24am 27Mar)

“David Seymour had no hesitation in saying he would have sacked her.
Luxon is not reading the room”

– Mike Hosking (1ZB Breakfast @ 7:25am 28Mar)

LOLOL!!
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March 28, 2023 8:09am
- septic skeptic
  
  Luxon is always a day late and a dollar short.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:22am
  - hullkiwi
    
    So was Seymour. The problem is the political advisors to each of the leaders. They all wait for the mood music & try to interpret what to tell their leaders to say. Luxon’s advisors are the ones failing to read the room. Probably because they are the same kiddies from Victoria Young Nats (who want to be MPs one day) that Judith Collins had. They are out of touch, because they have no real world experience/view.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:44am
    - pdm
      
      Huuk – when did Seymour get back in New Zealand from his personal (he paid his own fares etc) trip to Washington DC?
      
      May only have been last night so he was probably incommunicado Sunday and yesterday which explains Brooke va Velden fronted yesterday.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:36am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  As I said yesterday, Luxon is paralysed on ‘woke’ issues. He is afraid that any answer he gives will result in screams of sexist, racist, coloniser and so on.
  
  Surely National has strategists?
  
  Mr Luxon the media hate you. None of the violent thugs at Albert Park will vote for you
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:28am
  - Nukuleka
    
    After watching video footage of the Albert Park protests it seems obvious to me that, had her own personal security men been in attendance, Kelly- Jay Keen would have been seriously injured- if not actually killed by the vicious mob.
    
    And Chris Luxon says it was a mainly peaceful protest.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:36am
    - Nickc2
      
      Where and when did he say that?
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:46am
      - Matt Long
        
        In the interviews immediately after Ms Parker was attacked.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:04am
      - jon
        
        Think it was on ZB Hoskings Monday BUT he did say it. Which planet is he on?
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:05am
      - Nickc2
        
        TKS.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:23am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I think Posie Parker did have her own security, but only 4. That was ‘her’ security, not crown separation security.
      Crowd separation was the job of the Police, who were hiding around the corner.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:50am
      - Thought Criminal
        
        The police REFUSED to help. They are fully under the control of the left now.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:42am
    - lemuzz
      
      The tomato juice thrower comments;
      “Protester Eli Rubashkyn, who was born intersex and is gender-nonconforming, said she had dropped the litre of juice on the controversial speaker.
      
      Rubashkyn said she chose to dump tomato juice on Parker as a metaphor for the harm caused by her ideologies of the transgender community.
      
      “I am so proud I dropped the juice, and I would do it again, and again – if I have to go to prison for one year, I am more than happy.”
      OK go to prison for a year then be exported back to Columbia your home country. After a year in prison [Mod – deleted, no need for that kind of comment]
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:39pm
      - Jack5
        
        Rules for deporting refugees:
        
        https://communitylaw.org.nz/community-law-manual/chapter-30-refugees/deportation-of-refugees/
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:06pm
    - coge
      
      Luxon could easily get a job with CNN.
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:18pm
  - Simon
    
    “Surely National has strategists?”
    
    John Key rode on Don Brash’s coattails. Brash did all the heavy lifting which was subsequently thrown away by Key. This is Luxon’s problem there is no Don Brash for him. All that is left for Luxon is the unprincipled garbage that is the core of National.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:38am
    - Random T Person
      
      Luxon himself is unprincipled garbage. Cam Slater, for all his own hypocrisy, is spot on about a man who denies his own faith when that faith becomes potentially inconvenient. I’m not religious but I respect, even admire those who are. Because those religious types will very often stick to their principles. Not Luxon. He’s a denying Peter.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:33am
      - kowtow
        
        Seems to be a Nat thing.
        
        Poor old Bill English had to abase himself on the altar of self criticism in order to be annointed by te media pardy as not being a latter day Papist Romish Jesuit Insider Plotter who was going to take NZ back to the Middle Ages.
        
        But te media pardy seem to think it’s OK to join the gender loons and Greens to take us back to Salem Witch Trials .
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:17am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @Widogast Corwin-
    “Surely National has strategists?”
    If they do, maybe they should get a few new ones.
    One area of achievement on which Labour cannot be faulted is their very successful manipulation of the electorate via their funding of the media and clever use of damage control through their large “politburo” of PR consultants and lobbyists.
    National can’t compete in that department – even if they thought it was necessary.
    Not sure that they do. Just go along sleep-walking to the election and something good might happen.
    Right?
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:51am
  - Pavel
    
    The biggest problem that Luxon, National, and arguably half the population, has it that we are living in a time where intelligent people are silenced so that stupid people won’t be offended.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:52am
    - kowtow
      
      Sorry , but we still have a secret ballot .
      
      The 2020 batflu sweeping victory of the Ardernist lockdown lovers proved that vast swathes of the electorate just ain’t that intelligent.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:20am
      - mawm
        
        And by all reports becoming stupider.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:59am
- Deane Jessep
  
  Luxon is Boring. I am yawning typing this.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:14am
  - Nickc2
    
    Luxon and his advisers need to get some mongrel!
    On a less serious note, perhaps they don’t want to take over a financially and morally bankrupt country eh?
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:21am
    - Thought Criminal
      
      If Luxton is so weak he can’t come to the defence of elderly women when they are physically attacked then he won’t be a good Prime Minister.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:44am
      - Deane Jessep
        
        That is why he is boring. Made himself irrelevant in one comment about how the TV told him a protest was peaceful. Dudes baked.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:49am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        He did stand up for her rights, equally saying protesting peacefully is also legal, he never said the protest was peaceful, he said it was not
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:14am
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        He wants to be in both sides of the fence all the time and it is hurting him and it is hurting us. Decent everyday NZers of all political persuasions are opposed to thugs smashing up and frightening old ladies. Those ladies were still traumatised yesterday when talking to The Platform. Luxon just needs to quote their stories or have one of his team quote their stories to show the zombies tuned into MSM that they are being lied to.
        
        We are living in the age of the mob and the voice of the mob is MSM. If our political leaders can’t fix that they are no good to us.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:19pm
    - artemisia
      
      Not sure that’s less serious Nickc2. Let’s face it, hard to avoid austerity over the next couple of years.
      
      On the bright side, all those hospo vacancies will have ex PR staff lining up. Not sure how they’ll pay the rent these days though. Bunk beds?
      
      I see Mayor Brown’s council is exiting buildings in Auckland and selling off furniture. Probably not many bunk sets, but could be bargains there. Next step, same in Wellington. I’m sure Mayor Whanau will be all for it for council assets, it’s the circular economy after all.
      
      Then there’s all the newly empty central government offices no longer needed. More bargains.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:06pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  To be fair he said he did. It know what context she was using the racist rant, Seymour had an extra day to find exactly what happened out
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:25am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    G – apologising for Luxon is not going to win the argument. If National can’t get him better informed and with better sound bites then we are all stuffed. For the good of the country Luxon needs to realise and combat the true problems, which are:
    1. The biased and compromised MSM
    2. The spin and narrative control of the activists
    3. The activists are running the government
    
    Sitting on both sides of the fence and trying to be nice and reasonable about everything is not working.
    
    He needs to show up the issues. Start with the video of a 70 year old woman being repeatedly punched in the face. Not the protest was mostly peaceful. Ther is not a decent kiwi that I know who would be comfortable seeing that lady badly assaulted. If Luxon can’t get that in front of people and call out the thugs then he isn’t up to the job.
    
    Until the last day of the parliamentary protest there was less violence than Saturday. Yet those people were slurred and slandered. Luxon supported Mallard the bully and was thanked for it.
    
    He is not only not reading the room, he has lost the room. The one thing you and I agree on, if he doesn’t get support soon then we have 3 more years of the activists running the country. Heaven forbid!
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:27pm
    - Jack5
      
      Who are the posters playing off Luxon against Seymour?
      
      Are they Labour saboteurs?
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:07pm
Chuck Bird

We are in a bad way with Hipkins as PM and Luxon as Leader or the Opposition.

Luxon said the riot on Saturday was mainly peaceful. Thank God for Seymour.
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March 28, 2023 8:10am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  I suggest that Mr Luxon watch this 5 minute video. It was posted at 0300 this morning by Kellie Jay Keen.
  
  If you are pressed for time, watch from the 2 minute mark. It is clear that if KJK had gone down, she would have been seriously injured or killed.
  
  https://youtu.be/FsKn5XeJkWY
  
  So no Mr Luxon this was not ‘mostly peaceful’. Common sense tells me that her 7 person security detail in the orange vests saved her life.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:21am
  - NK
    
    He clearly has no judgment. He praised the police mob at the Parliament protest, essentially siding with the “river of filth”, and now, for fear of upsetting maybe one trans vote he might get, just garbles his messaging here.
    
    As Chuck said, thank goodness for David Seymour, and dare I say it, Winston Peters.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:29am
    - Matt Long
      
      It seems Mr Luxon is determined to give Winston First a place in 5he next parliament.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:31am
    - mandk
      
      Why thank goodness for David Seymour?
      
      Q. Where did he stand on the issue of the mandate and the anti-mandate protest?
      
      A. Shoulder to shoulder with Jacinda Ardern.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:34am
      - pdm
        
        mandk – you sound like mrspdm and my Green friend who wants to rewrite The Treaty and New Zealand History.
        
        I keep telling her and say to you as well – you can only live in the past for so long.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:39am
      - Grunter
        
        mandk – that’s crap!
        Seymour was always against mandating jabs. He repeatedly stated that. He did met with some of the more sane protesters in Wellington, but didn’t want to talk to the likes of Brian Tamaki who is clearly a nut job.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:55am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        Yes I disagreed with Seymour on the vaccine mandates etc.
        
        What are you going to do? Hold on to it forever. Good luck finding a politician who you agree with 100 percent of the time.
        
        For me, supporting ACT is not a difficult decision.
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:01am
      - leoj
        
        To Grunter:
        
        Please provide proof that Seymour spoke with the protesters.
        
        Please provide proof that Seymour disagreed with the mandates.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:02am
      - Centrist
        
        Personally I have far more problem with ACT bringing in the euthanasia bill than them supporting the covid vaccine.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:24pm
    - septic skeptic
      
      Was Shakespeare thinking of Winston when he wrote “the devil can cite scripture to his purpose”?
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:39am
  - mogg
    
    Here she explains exactly what happened, on GB News, “Trans activists are misogynists who hate biological women”
    https://youtu.be/Su8XLdc26uo
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:19am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Thankyou. That was well worth watching.
      I agree with Kelli-Jay Keen – she is lucky to be alive.
      For those interested in a supporter’s take, read the KB comments from yesterday and Saturday from Caitlin Griffin. DPF even did a whole post.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:45am
  - 2ic
    
    @Widogast Corwin
    https://youtu.be/FsKn5XeJkWY
    
    I can’t believe what I just saw there. There actually are women there attempting to provide security for Kellie-Jay Keen against a baying mob, while a dozen or so Police wait around to see if she get out alive.
    
    What has this country come to?
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:38pm
- Matt Long
  
  Most riots like BLM are mostly peaceful, it’s the minority of the protesters that destroy property and attack people while the mostly peaceful ones egg them on.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:26am
  - Paulus
    
    I understand it was Tomato Sauce thrown over the Speaker by a woman, born a man, and a Refugee !
    Will she/he will be prosecuted as that what they want.
    Nah !
    What a waste of Tomato Sauce !
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:40am
    - pdm
      
      Paulus – deportation maybe.
      
      No no no not on Michael Woods watch.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:40am
      - Paulus
        
        You cannot deport a Refugee !
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:22pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Sadly
        
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        March 28, 2023 8:06pm
  - Random T Person
    
    Beautiful Matt. Just spot on.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:46am
- Simon
  
  Chicken shit National party. The excuse is National doesnt want to see a divided society like US politics produces. National will always roll over for the woke.
  
  “Thank God for Seymour.”
  
  Right wing is the natural order. Right wing principles & ideology are true and correct which work in reality. Even if Clown world axis of Gweens/ Labo/ National were to ban ACT there will always be right wing people who see the correct way dealing with reality & consequences.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It now really does look like two ticks yellow.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:50am
    - kowtow
      
      Unless you live in an electorate where an Act candidate has a chance of winning a seat ( and I can’t think of any other than Seymour’s) then 2 ticks yellow is a waste .
      
      Give your party vote to Act and electorate to the Nats .
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Luxon has no fucking idea. Does he not watch TV?
  Maybe he gets warm fuzzy reports on TV riots?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:53am
  - Burtland
    
    he only watches the kids maori channels to improve his Te Reo
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:10am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  That is not what I heard him say, he said many people were there peacefully, he said a group of nicompoops created the problem
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He needs eyes
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:51am
    - Pineapple Lumps
      
      A spine would help too.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:33pm
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Too weak G. As per above – he needs to say “A 70 year old woman was hit multiple times in the face by a thug in the pro-trans community. This is not all right. This is not us. I expect to see people who broke the law on Saturday arrested by the Police.”
    
    Apart fro activists who will disagree with this?
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:32pm
sirknz

MPs are being warned about polarisation and the possibility of violence during the upcoming election season.

https://archive.fo/VNErq [$tuff]

After the weekend, this is their fault. Not one of % them has condemned the violence or called for an investigation.

The MPs have allowed violence to be an acceptable rebuttal to ideas they don’t agree with and they should be the ones setting the example for behaviour in public.

Violence as a valid rebuttal to ideas is not a standard I agree with.
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March 28, 2023 8:11am
- graham
  
  There was also a comment last night on the news from the PM about this topic; IE the country becoming more polarised.
  
  I didn’t hear the PM explaining just WHY he thinks the country might have become more polarised. I wonder if he would be open to the idea that maybe his Government’s policies – especially during Covid – and the general direction they are attempting to steer this country in might have something to do with it?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:28am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    PM can’t explain just ‘WHY’ because his spinners have not told him.
    Like Luxon, Chippie does not watch TV reports.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:01am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Co governance and separatist policy has created it, thank God co governance and separatist services are gone when government changes later this year
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:21am
- hullkiwi
  
  The view that the up coming election is going to be the “most violent” is being promoted by the Greens (refer RNZ Friday) with some support from Labour.
  
  They are trying to paint Nationl/Act supports as violent extremists. Does it sound familiar?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:33am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Will the Greens enlist the repugnant ‘thugs’ from the Albert Park incident?
    It would not surprise me at all.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:04am
    - jon
      
      Steve, many of these thugs have much in common in more ways than one with the SA leader Ernst Rohm and his violent henchmen of early 1930s Germany.
      
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      March 28, 2023 9:24am
      - Master Mariner
        
        How did that end up for him Jon ?
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:53am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Liquidated when politically expedient
        
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        March 28, 2023 8:07pm
    - bjools
      
      Wonder how many National/ACT campaign signs will be vandalized this election?
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:37am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        That makes level headed voters sick
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:23am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Probably, they want to create an inserection of their own
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:25am
  - Nickc2
    
    The doctrine of those who control the BLM movement in the US has filtered down to lil-olde NZ.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if a BLM speaker didn’t visit NZ to capitalise on the Posie debacle.
    Hark, hark, what’s that I hear? Obama’s in Sydney and his follow on itinerary isn’t being released.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:51am
  - septic skeptic
    
    If the Greens reckon this election will be the most violent ever, I’m prepared to take their word for it. They should know.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:09am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    We seen who the violent extremists were last weekend, the luvvies where there for all to see
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:22am
  - Southern Raider
    
    They will violently protest any centre or “right wing” meetings and then the media will turn it around as the centre or “right wing” started it by trying to discuss controversial (to the left) topics in the first place.
    
    There will soon be a central committee chaired by Meng Foon who will have to approve the topics of all public and private meetings going forward in NZ to confirm the topics and context aligns to a radical left wing viewpoint. All others will be banned
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:51pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  The Auckland Police seem to know nothing, Nothing!
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:58am
  - Random T Person
    
    I’m shocked, shocked to hear gambling’s been going on in here!
    Your winnings, sir.
    Ah…thank you…very much!
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:35am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    They were muzzled
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:25am
- Deane Jessep
  
  Oh god, I hope there is some “polarisation” in this election. It’s damn boring so far. A bit of “argy bargy” would liven it right up. I heard from a friend yesterday that it could be ok to tip soup on politicians at the hustings. I’ve got 5L of pumpkin soup leftover from the let down that was the lock down apocalypse. Could I perhaps give it to people to tip on other people? (asking for a friend)
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:19am
Simon

Watched a few BBC news clips on the fighting in Baktmut. They had some BBC guy travelling around Baktmut or outside of Baktmut. But as this guy was moving around there just wasnt anyone else around. Big battle and you would expect to see equipment, logistics, many soldiers & weapons.

There was certainly battle damage.

But its either not really Baktmut or the fighting is so low key its been carried out by a few hundred on each side over a fairly large area. Suspect Ukraine Russia war just a glorified border skirmish. ?? Some on alt-right claim the casualty death & wounded count are 10% of the reported numbers.
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March 28, 2023 8:18am
- Blackbob
  
  The video would be deliberately not allowed to focus on equipment or people – that’s how you give away intelligence info. Modern battlefields are sparse places with nothing in sight because if you can see it so can the enemy.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:25am
  - Simon
    
    “The video would be deliberately not allowed to focus on equipment or people”
    
    The BBC guy had drone footage over a sizeable area were clearly there were a few Russian troops. Hardly any Ukraine troops as well. It was a front line. He was travelling on one of the few roads into Baktmut (which the Russians would know about) and nothing else. There was no traffic, discarded equipment, logistics.
    
    The footage could have been weeks old as well. It probably should be for reasons intelligence.
    
    There just isnt much fighting going on because there are not many people involved.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:51am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Its the mud season
      Wait until June.
      Lets see how Russia’s Conscripts cope then- especially with their old equipment and lack of training.
      Its going to come down to whether Ukraine can kill 4 Russians for every Ukraine soldier.
      Technology giving Force Multipliers Vs sheer numbers of Cannon fodder.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:47am
    - rangitoto
      
      There is plenty of fighting going. There are dozens of videos on twitter every day from both sides.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:53pm
    - Blackbob
      
      The Ukrainians seem more tactically adept then the Russians which is why you can see more of them out and about. The smart ones, on both sides, are staying out of sight.
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:15pm
- kowtow
  
  No expert , but do you think the Ukes are going to allow footage showing any troop or equipment concentrations?
  
  Also this is an artillery war , we’ve been told , that being the case dispersal is surely important .
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:32am
  - mawm
    
    Not an expert either but surely the Russians have better real-time footage of what is going on behind Ukie lines with all the modern technology available.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:21pm
- Deane Jessep
  
  That’s not boring. There is something potentially interesting in this.
  
  Based on what I saw last week Ukraine was totally effed in Bakhmut and had no space to move in any direction and were being crushed. But given the pro Russia propaganda I have seen where they talk about loving the Ukranian people as cousins and don’t really want to crush them it’s not entirely impossible the whole thing is theatre.
  
  Hmm.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:40am
  - Burtland
    
    what like landing on the moon? really
    
    tell that to the Bagshaw’s
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:18am
- Grunter
  
  Simon – you lost me at “Watched a few BBC news clips….”
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:01am
  - Simon
    
    Simon – you lost me at “Watched a few BBC news clips….”
    
    Normally dont take MSM seriously. but its interesting to see what they pushing. Also it looks to be what has been reported well outside of MSM.
    
    There isnt any heavy fighting going on. Because there are no large columns of POWs. (unless someone can link) If there are large formations of troops they are probably 50 km behind “the front.”
    
    The front being a light skirmishing with small numbers involved. The BBC clips support what others well outside MSM have been saying about this conflict. 10% of the reported casualties.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:57am
sirknz

OH, and look who the NZ Media is trying to label as a true hero:

https://archive.fo/Jc6Zw [$tuff]

So stunning and brave to stifle opinions that go against yours.

Bet if anyone on here was to throw tomato juice at them it would be classified as a hate crime.

A clear case of “Rules for thee, but not for me”.
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March 28, 2023 8:19am
- NK
  
  Please don’t use the pronoun, “them”. You’re enabling it by doing so.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:30am
- Parnell Gun Club
  
  Columbia isn’t sending us their finest. Neither is Mexico.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:55am
- Eugene the Chemist
  
  NZ Media = you mean STUFF
  They are activists. Bunch of so called journalists without an ounce of critical analysis between them
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:55am
  - Prince
    
    Perhaps we could arrange a ‘Stuff Off’ day, when no Kiwiblogger will look at ‘Stuff’.
    Hit them in the pocket.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:45am
    - sirknz
      
      I run an adblocker on all my computers so I cost them money.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:18am
- nathie
  
  Well this is what Stuff’s hero is saying:
  
  ““I want her to be full of blood””.
  
  So Stuff condones violence against people they disagree with?
  
  https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1640382512131178501
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:12am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Toxic Masculinity…
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:48am
- Albert_Ross
  
  What an excellent way to prove that women who are dubious about sharing women’s spaces with anybody who says they’re a woman, have nothing to fear in reality.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:50am
- Pineapple Lumps
  
  Deeply distressing that these global activist mentally ill people get fast tracked refugee status and we can’t even support hard working migrant families to obtain residency. Another example of how the globalist movement is working to undermine our national interest.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:36pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Idiot box play school TV1 breakfast this morning
Student was asked what she thought the Auckland Council budget was.
Aaaahhhh, 2 million?
8 billion, and she took a jump back.
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March 28, 2023 8:25am
- bjools
  
  We giving her the vote?
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:29am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yup, but only a Green vote
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:06am
- Ehlana
  
  How old was this student? Primary school?
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:25pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…

Anyone fancy hooking up with Herald Columnist and KiwiBank finalist for New-Zealander-Of-The-Year?

https://twitter.com/PipMHChats2/status/1640234406815363073
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March 28, 2023 8:26am
- Gravelroad
  
  @MP-
  This self obsessed, hysterical person is a finalist for the Kiwibank New Zealander of the Year?
  Why?
  That Kiwibank is happy to showcase this person as someone really special and a role model is disrespectful to its many customers.
  But, who cares about respectability these days eh.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:06am
  - Deane Jessep
    
    I am quite sure their customers will show them how special they find that nut case.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:54am
  - Ghost
    
    They aren’t, Maggie has it wrong, see the links below
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:20am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      It’s not often you’re right Ghost…and you’re wrong this time as well.
      
      Withdraw and Apologise. Thank you.
      
      https://nzawards.org.nz/news/meet-your-2023-semi-finalists/
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:31pm
      - Ghost
        
        She isn’t a finalist in the Kiwibank, never made it
        
        https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/about-us/community-partnerships/new-zealander-year
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:33pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        You’re just trying to queer the pitch now Ghost.
        
        Admit it…. you can’t see yourself apologizing.
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:19pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This creep says she is organising a counter protest to Posie Parker.
  Seriously?
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:08am
- Ghost
  
  I think you might be confusing Kiwibank here, they sponsor two awards, you can see who is up for those two here. https://www.kiwibank.co.nz/about-us/community-partnerships/new-zealander-year
  
  Shaneel Is up for 2023 UNIVERSITY OF CANTERBURY YOUNG NEW ZEALANDER OF THE YEAR. https://nzawards.org.nz/news/finalists-have-landed-2023/
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:19am
nathie

UK Government Minister stands up for Women’s rights and calls out the trans activists.

Note: not trans people in general (after all most just go about the lives without making a fuss), just the trans activists that want to disrupt those they disagree with.

If only the hopeless NZ MSM (and some of our politicians) could see the distinction being made (by the UK Minister) and stand up for the NZ Women’s community (eg Speak Up For Women etc).

Home Office Minister Chris Philp says the attack on women’s rights advocate Kellie-Jay Keen by New Zealand trans activists “was unacceptable”.

“The way women’s rights have been threatened by the trans movement is concerning. She has every right to express her views.”

https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1640267395892649985
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March 28, 2023 8:26am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “She has every right to express her views.”
  And we had every right to hear them. The thugs arrived, stopped her from speaking, and the Police did nothing,
  Guess that means the thugs have the Police in their pocket. It was almost like the unruly protestors knew the Police would intervene until it got nasty. Who is the top dog in Auckland?
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Not intervene**
    The top Auckland Police dog is Inspector Gary Davey.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:59am
Nickc2

The fickle hand of fate has shuffled the Get Out of Jail Free cards on the board game of Political Life.
The Accept $50k and get out of jail free card AKA It’s complex ….. has moved to the bottom of the pack and the Accept $500k and get out of jail free card AKA I don’t have that information in front of me card has miraculously moved to the top of the pack as evidenced by the Hosking vs Hipkins interview on Newstalk ZB this morning.
IMO, Hipkins performance throughout the interview was akin to a kid caught out not doing their homework.
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March 28, 2023 8:27am
- Matt Long
  
  How long before Hipkins refuses to appear on Hosking’s show, will Sepeloni step up instead?
  How many Labour ministers are on witless protection now? Half?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:37am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Sepolulina is in witless protection for celebrating the inserection on Saturday
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:30am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Key never use yo have tgd information available, if the weasel is hood at his job he would know the fact, didn’t take Ginny long to start the same bullshittery
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:28am
  - Pineapple Lumps
    
    Is this the written equivalent of slurred speech?
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:43pm
Sparrow

I heard the train wreck of an interview with Hipkins. When you look at the leadership of this country its a cause of genuine concern. I emailed the leaders of all parties yesterday expressing my concerns that all politicians were not serving the needs of the majority of New Zealanders. This was shown by their actions or non actions with regard to the protest in Wellington and the riot in Albert Park. Also the overkill by police in Wellington and their lack of support in Auckland. All this supported by a corrupt media. Never expected any replies. Surprise surprise got a very nice and commonsense reply from David Seymour. As an old fashioned lefty I am going to take the earlier advice from KB’s and hold my nose and vote ACT.
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March 28, 2023 8:34am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Good Sparrow. Put a mask on if you wish.
  Two ticks yellow – and you will not be the only leftie to do this.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:03pm
- jon
  
  Sparrow, i believe Question Time in the House this afternoon will be very telling. Seymour will be firing on all cylinders re the week end outrage and calling for answers esp re the absence of police at the Albert Park. Given Luxon’s earlier declaration that the event was mainly peaceful, i doubt he will breathe much energy into any criticism of the police lack of oversight. The Nats need to get serious, show some mongrel, stop worrying about offending people who would never vote for them anyway. I fear today will be a fail in them stepping up enough to suggest they are a govt in waiting.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:15pm
  - Ghost
    
    HON LOUISE UPSTON to the Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence: Why did she say that “I am a prevention violence Minister, and I know who causes violence in this world and it’s white cis men”?
    
    https://bills.parliament.nz/v/11/f77715b2-fdfc-4760-ac8c-08db2f0c0722
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:21pm
ClanMcleod

Hipkins:

““Marama has clarified what she has said and I am satisfied with it.”

So what is the clarified version???? Spineless jellyfish.

What she said was an utterly inaccurate and racist comment. Provably so. You don’t get away with that by saying “whoops, that wasn’t what I meant”. It’s exactly what she meant.
I don’t care if she was run over by a truck, she meant every word of it and it reveals the systemic racist cancer that has invaded the current government.

They are clearly controlled by fringe minorities. That means this country is controlled by fringe minorities.
I have nothing against fringe minorities, I wish them no ill, and they have a right to even handed treatment – like everyone else. But they are being given massively disproportional power and leverage relative to their actual numbers.

We are no longer a functioning democracy and Luxon in particular is not giving me much hope for the future.
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March 28, 2023 8:37am
- Nickc2
  
  There was a video clip on TV1 this morning showing Davidson delivering her hate speech. At the end of the clip, she appears to be looking at her phone, where I believe the script for her speech was displayed.
  IMO, her speech was not spontaneous with the situation she put herself in but was contrived and probably rehearsed.
  She has to go!
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:06am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Hipkins eill standby her and has excepted her crimes
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:31am
    - Nickc2
      
      IMO, if the Greens pull the plug on Labour and withdraw their support, that’ll be the end of Labour.
      Hipkins knows this and that’s why Davidson can do/say whatever she likes and he won’t sack her.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:48am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Lefties blackmailing lefties!
        Delicious.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:06pm
      - mawm
        
        Steve – it might be delicious but sadly it is an indicator as to where the power resides at present, and it is not the kind of country I want to live in.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:28pm
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  I have nothing against fringe minorities, I wish them no ill, and they have a right to even handed treatment – like everyone else. But…
  ____________________
  You had me til that last word…^^^
  
  So I’m respectfully calling bullshit!!!
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:27am
  - bjools
    
    AAAHHH selective editing, how very communist/Fascist of you….
    The full quote
    I have nothing against fringe minorities, I wish them no ill, and they have a right to even handed treatment – like everyone else. But they are being given massively disproportional power and leverage relative to their actual numbers.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:15am
    - Jack5
      
      Selection of only the first word of the sentence by 🌴BWAV is crass. It ain’t even E minus level debating.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:40am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Typical selective quote out of context easily recognised by anyone with a functioning brain.
    
    Next time read the full sentence, don’t stop half way through. It will help comprehend the actual point being made. You’re welcome.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:35am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Sometimes the context is written in a way that naturally makes one pause, then carry on. The pause diverts. Start again.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:10pm
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      …easily recognised by anyone with a functioning brain.
      _______________
      
      Just because you think your brain is functioning doesn’t mean it is.
      
      That’s how you fall for that conspiracy misinformation bullshit…
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:44pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        BWAV – ouch, got me with that one. I’m hurt……
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:56pm
  - Media hater
    
    [Mod – debate what a person says]
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:47pm
Rusty

Does anyone know why Brian and Hanah Tamaki were leading a march up Queen street at the same time as Posie Parker was in Albert park?

I haven’t heard what they were protesting about.
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March 28, 2023 8:38am
- Matt Long
  
  Similar issues, sexualisation of children, grooming…
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:27am
  - Nickc2
    
    Surprise, surprise, little if any MSM coverage.
    Te MSM Influencers were probably in drag and poncing around in Albert Park.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:36am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Ouch! You exposed Te Media.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Have the Police located the motorcyclist who failed to stop at a Pedestrian Crossing and struck a Minister of the Crown as she she stepped onto the crossing to take a selfie pic?

(photos in this link)

https://thespinoff.co.nz/live-updates/27-03-2023/davidson-clarifies-white-cis-men-remarks-says-she-was-not-clear
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March 28, 2023 8:41am
- Matt Long
  
  She was in shock when she made the statements? I thought when I view the video she was not right in her head, but I’ve seen other greens make similar weird diatribes speaking like automations, I presumed due to substance abuse.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:48am
- rockape
  
  Wow , so badly injured she didn’t even drop her phone. Charge her with racism, wasting police time and being a really bad actress.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:07am
- Rich Prick
  
  In shock? She was happily striding down a street when she spouted her racist bile. These new excuses are looking pretty pathetic.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:27am
Matt Long

Fresh from bailing out one white elephant, the Whangarei District Council want to sink money into another.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/whangarei-district-council-to-put-up-to-114-million-towards-oruku-conference-centre/6O5GWTIZBFC2RIKESJMQ3RWUQ4/
It’s just lucky they get free money from ratepayers.
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March 28, 2023 8:44am
- Dave
  
  The hyperlink text alone is a bit misleading. The council is putting up 11point4 million dollars. Could still be a white elephant, though.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:43am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Does the Whangarei Council do anything that Councils are supposed to do?
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:19pm
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION…

‘Hackers stole nearly 8 million Australian and New Zealand drivers license, passport numbers and customer records’

– REUTERS (27March)

Just hoe safe are our CENSUS details?

Asking for a friend.
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March 28, 2023 8:47am
- mandk
  
  My friend, who works for the Chinese government in Beijing, tells me all your records are completely safe in a data storage facility in Guangdong.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:15am
- kowtow
  
  And they want people to believe an online firearms register will be any safer ?
  
  More like a shopping list for the gangs.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:35am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Will gangs register their firearms?
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A Glaswegian vows to lead Scotland to independence

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65086551
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March 28, 2023 8:48am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Wonder if he ever owned a Snack-Bar? 😎
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Na..
    
    Just the usual route to a political career:
    Student politics
    Communications Officer
    Policy assistant
    MP
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:05am
- kowtow
  
  The SNP had close ties to the Nazis , the real ones .
  
  See Mark Felton Productions on youtube.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:21am
- bjools
  
  Oops…
  Do they have any idea of the depth of mistrust and dislike for Muslims in Scotland?
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:00am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    probably not as deep as the mistrust and dislike for the Wee Frees…
    
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kate-forbes-gay-marriage-free-church-scotland-b2288826.html
    
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    March 28, 2023 1:34pm
CAKE FACE1

I notice that the Team of $55 million (Stuff and Herald) were posting glorious glowing tributes to the person who poured the tomato soup over Posie Parker’s head.

I found it extremely distasteful.

I mulled it over some more. I am actually funding this communist propaganda with my taxes.

I am very angry that my money is funding extreme left wing advocacy, but there is nothing I can do about it, but complain here.

I feel ashamed that I have been forced to fund communists in the media. Logically, I know that I have done nothing wrong.

It still leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.
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March 28, 2023 8:53am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  It’s not fair that you’re angry, ashamed and impotent.
  
  You could always stop reading stuff that obviously upsets you and read more uplifting stuff.
  
  More cake might take the sour taste away ?
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:32am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    He can indeed stop reading it – but he can’t stop paying for it. That’s his point.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:46am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      My good mate is worried about where his taxes go too.
      
      I say, “Bro, why give a fuck, it’s not your money. If it helps, think that most of it goes to future proofing infrastructure and be thankful it does. “
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:01am
      - bjools
        
        None of what you just said is true.
        1. It is my money that successive Govt.’s MANDATE that I give an ever increasing portion for them to largely mismanage.
        2. What infrastructure?
        Where’s Dunedin Hospital?
        Our roads are not being maintained
        etc etc
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:26am
      - Swifty
        
        BWAV doesn’t seem to have clicked to the fact that the less taxpayer money misspent or wasted means more left in people’s pockets.
        
        The more left in people’s pockets the more they have to buy life’s essentials and not so essential, and the more they will have upon retirement.
        
        I cannot understand people who say they are for the poor while simultaneously being okay with high spending and high waste governments.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:02am
      - Yabster
        
        “its not your money” lol- thats a socialist for you..do you know where tax comes from Black? Or are you one of those that are a net zero or worse contributors?
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:07pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Once rendered unto Caesar, it is Caesars.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:46pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “Once rendered unto Caesar, it is Caesars.”
        
        Are you saying we live under a dictatorship?
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:47pm
- Skippytony
  
  That’ll be the soup
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:41am
Yvette

Marama Davidson
AM host Melissa Chan-Green asked Hipkins on Tuesday if he’d spoken with Davidson since the comments were made. “No, haven’t spoken to her directly,” he replied.

Who is to determine, “half an hour after being hit in the stomach by a passing motor bike handle bar and still being in shock”, that in “fight or flight” mental mode, you do not say more “unguarded truthful” statements, than in a normal socially aware context?
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March 28, 2023 8:55am
Burtland

how NZ changed in a day…

grannies who dont support LBGT+ are now TERFs and are the target of state supported biffo
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March 28, 2023 8:55am
DimChappie

We are being lied to yet again. Hipkins cited Marama Davidson’s motorcycle accident in letting her off her racist sexist cis men claim. But here is a link to the full video segment. It seems to be before her accident which involved a trip to ED. She seems relaxed. And surely a visit to ED takes 6 plus hours these days?

https://twitter.com/antifa_otautahi/status/1639413322348101632
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March 28, 2023 8:57am
- Yabster
  
  would really like to know the timing of events- was the “cis” statement before or after? I thought as you say she went to hospital so surely it was before? If so Hippy is lying yet again.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:09pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Hipkins is lying..

He said Marama Davidson was being harassed by Protestors when she misspoke

On Davidson’s comments, Hipkins said at yesterday’s post-cabinet press conference it was important to consider the context – she had been hit by a motorcycle and was being “harassed” by protesters.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/pm-chris-hipkins-act-party-leader-david-seymour-dsicuss-green-party-co-leader-marama-davidsons-white-cis-men-comments-with-mike-hosking/3T4NYNHU6FE6NJLEWACRFN26VQ/

Anyone who has looked at the video clip of Ms Davidson being interviewed can see she is clearly pleased to be on camera and has agreed to answer the interviewer’s questions. There are no protestors harassing Ms Davidson and her colleagues.
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March 28, 2023 9:00am
- Blog-aholic
  
  The video clearly shows her welcoming the reporter.
  
  Hipkins can claim context but the only context is what you can plainly see.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:04am
- kowtow
  
  Also no sign of having just been ‘run down’ by a motorcycle.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:20am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Even I could hear what Davidson said, and I have 4% hearing lose.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:27pm
- Ghost
  
  Hipkins lie, never. I mean he has a good track record of only telling truths that are not based in reality, he wouldn’t lie…..
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:31pm
nathie

Jordan Peterson writes about why “trans activism is sexist and delusional” and lays out his reasoning.

Note that he is not “attacking” trans people as such, instead he is highlighting the “science” (or correctly, the lack of) that trans activists use to force their interpretations and justify closing down debate on it is incorrect.

Oh for such reason and debate by airing such views from the one-sided NZ MSM???

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/27/trans-activism-sexist-delusional/
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March 28, 2023 9:02am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  It is a lengthy read but worth it. Utterly compelling multi dimensional arguments.
  
  His analogy with anorexia is brilliant. If a dangerously under weight teen girl says she is fat, we don’t agree with her. Yet now if the same teen says she is a boy we give her puberty blockers and offer to surgically remove her breasts. 😭
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:53am
  - lifesgood
    
    I’ve long believed trans is just the new and fashionable form of anorexia. I refuse to believe people with a certain gender and thus that gender’s hormones are trapped in the wrong body. And even if it was actually the case it would be extremely rare. Why in the hell is the world bending over backwards for a bunch of Misfits who, in my view, have a mental illness. Yep, the world has gone mad.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:04am
    - leoj
      
      Yep, they are mentally deranged and they all vote Labour/Greens.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:16am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      “And even if it was actually the case it would be extremely rare.”
      
      According to Jordan Peterson, gender dysphoria is real but rare – he estimates 1 in 10,000. He has studied the literature as a psychologist. He also explains that before the trans epidemic, about 80 percent of boys who had ‘gender confusion’ would happily settle down as gay men by the end of puberty. About 10 percent would emerge as heterosexual. The remaining 10 percent would emerge as trans-sexual.
      
      Same with the girls – most of us will be aware of families with girls who are ‘tom boys’. Many of these girls grow up to be gay women. Some got over the tom boy phase and emerged as happily heterosexual. A vanishingly small number of girls became ‘trans men’. Indeed they were almost unheard of until recently. Now, many of these girl ‘tom boys’ are being told they are boys and are being given testosterone with a path to mastectomy and in some cases, the creation of a ‘penis’, made from a strip of flesh cut out of the arm.
      
      This is what KJK is opposing. She is clear that at 18 you can knock yourself out. For this she is labelled a nazi.
      
      When will we reach peak madness on trans issues? I really do not know.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:25am
alex Masterley

I laughed my arse off when i listened to that interview.
Chippie is a walking talking failure.
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March 28, 2023 9:05am
CAKE FACE1

As a stale pale male, I have also had a gutsful of casual racism against white people.

I am pleased that Mr. Hipkins didn’t sack Marama. She will be a festering sore for the Green Party, showcasing her hateful beliefs for the election beauty contest.

I notice that Chloe (of the fake umlaut) doubled down on that the communist riot was a show of ‘love and affection’.

Great. That’s another communist in the rubbish bin. Hopefully she will lose her electorate seat.
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March 28, 2023 9:05am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  As a stale pale male, I have also had a gutsful of casual racism against white people.
  ______________________
  
  But the majority of posts on this site are overtly racist against Pasifikans, inclusive of Maori.
  
  Lemme guess, you’re totally OK with that ?
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:36am
  - CAKE FACE1
    
    All racism is unacceptable.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:46am
  - bjools
    
    An example please….
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:52am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      There are none so blind as those who refuse to see…
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:21am
      - bjools
        
        and still…no example.
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:34am
      - Aquarius
        
        I’d love to believe that statement was the beginning of self awareness on your part, but I somehow doubt it….
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:52am
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        We have always been a reflection of the lack of self awareness.
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:17am
  - Dave
    
    Some are racist, in my opinion, but the majority?
    
    I’ve not done a count of racist vs non-racist statements, and since we have no agreed definition of racism, such counts wouldn’t prove much.
    
    As a matter of curiosity, and I’m definitely not trying to start a debate here, just interested in your opinion of the very next comment, @ 9.06 by Yvette about 3 waters Te Mana o Wai statements. IMO, she has identified a racist policy by the government, but her post is not itself racist against Māori. What do you think?
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:12am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      The policy isn’t racist.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:55am
      - Dave
        
        Thanks for your prompt and clear answer, BWAV.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:55pm
  - nathie
    
    Bwav: Hey not everyone here is who you think they are, nor “overtly racist against Pasifikans, inclusive of Maori”!
    
    Just the bad and entitled, oh and the hypocrites (of any race)!
    
    Yes some may be “over the top” here (like anywhere or anyone else in the world) but debate them or educate them (with facts not emotive feelz), it’s amazing how a bit of “education” gets support from the other commentators!
    
    I also notice you get voted down when you rub people the wrong way, but you get voted up when you have something interesting or funny to say. In other words some or most people here seem open to reasoned discussion (unlike on other left wing sites where diversity of views are stomped on)!
    
    Manuia le aso 🙂
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:15am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      Im not interested in garnering support here, nor up/downticks, nor debating/educating bigots.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:11am
      - Gravelroad
        
        Why are you wasting your valuable time commenting here BVAV?
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:36am
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        It’s not valuable time I’m wasting here.
        
        It’s the bits in between…
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:04pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Seems to be a lot of in between
        
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        March 28, 2023 8:18pm
  - Swifty
    
    More bullshit from BWAV.
    
    “But the majority of posts on this site are overtly racist against Pasifikans, inclusive of Maori.”
    
    An outright lie.
    
    Non-brown folk have been walking on egg-shells for years and the few that don’t get picked up by the mods.
    
    In wider NZ though brown folk can get away with the most egregious racist talk. And do.
    
    The double standard is sickening.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:21am
    - All_on_Red
      
      You guys need to understand that BWAV is just a troll who gets his kicks stirring you up.
      Its pointless engaging in his nonsense and lets face it, he’s pretty thick.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:15pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Hear that guys…You’re being told what you need to understand!!!
        
        Aren’t you sick of people telling you what you need to understand and how pointless engaging others not like you are ?
        
        Surely you’re capable of deciding for yourselves what you need and who to engage with ?
        
        You’re not that thick that you need a troll to point that out to you… are you ?
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:57pm
  - Jack5
    
    The number of “Pasifikans” is one – just 1.
    
    The lone “Pasifikan” is in solitary confinement inside 🌴BWAV’s head.
    
    His attempt to define a new ethnicity fails.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:42pm
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      It’s not an ethnicity. Its an identity.
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:10pm
- Random T Person
  
  Enjoy this Cake Face.
  https://www.todayfm.co.nz/home/opinion/2023/03/rachel-smalley-how-on-earth-did-the-greens-become-so-antiwomen.html
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:05am
  - Bridgenag
    
    This is one to send to your daughters and grand daughters – All of you frightened to engage with the younger ones as you don’t want to fall out with them. Well done Rachel.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:24am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    Rachel like a lot of folks has just woken up to what the Greens actually are. A bunch of vile feral venal haters and wreckers who are intolerant of anyone who doesnt agree with them. They are the enemy of civilised democractic citizens. In short they are Racist Facists. They are the enemy we need to counter if we want freedom.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:14pm
  - Yabster
    
    The Greens # “the anti woman party”
    Labour “the incompetent party”
    National “the less incompetent party”
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:47pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  She is now a festering sore for Hipkins, suggesting he will stand by her is utterly disgusting, is it not illegal to shout racist bile like that in this country?
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:36am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  From that angle she is an asset for the Oct Election!
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:30pm
Yvette

“Co-governance”?
Deep within the Water Services Entities Bill is a mechanism that will have significant influence at the operating level of the structure …

The Bill is silent on what can (and cannot) be included in the statements and provides no guidance as to the outcomes that the statements are intended to achieve. In short, there are no limits to the scope of Te Mana o te Wai statements. The relevant water entity board must simply give effect to those statements “to the extent that it applies to the entity’s duties, functions, and powers”.

Their importance in the governance structure of Three Waters cannot be overstated.

A number of people have observed that this is not co-governance but simple governance. The boards must give effect to the Te Mana o te Wai statements. So it doesn’t matter who is on the board, and who owns nominal shares. The legislation basically means the water entities must do as they are instructed via these statements.

… [and] it is a mechanism that is only available to mana whenua.

Why only available to mana whenua?
And is this not “co-governance”, but “actual full governance”?
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https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/10/cranmer_on_three_waters_and_te_mana_o_te_wai.html
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March 28, 2023 9:06am
- Ehlana
  
  Now, imagine you are one of these Water Service Entities (WSE) wanting to borrow money from an overseas financial entity. What can we offer as security? Can it be the water assets we don’t own, just govern? Or is it our ability to charge for the use of the water that runs through those assets?
  
  Just one thing. We could get a Te Mana o te Wai statement, which could come from any local indigenous group (who, for clarity, do not own the assets). It could require us to make changes to the way we operate, even to the point of closing down our ability to earn the revenue to service the borrowing we want to make from you.
  
  Would any financial entity make a loan under those terms?
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:29pm
Burtland

the sheeple are being spared …

Te Whatever will dispose of 1.4M Pfizer vaxes by weeks end – more Labour waste

Te Whatever doesnt seem too keen on getting these into sheeples arms (legs)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/486843/covid-19-1-point-4-million-doses-of-vaccine-to-be-destroyed-by-the-end-of-the-week
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March 28, 2023 9:07am
Warren

It doesn’t mater what the Leader of the National Party Chris Luxon does as the haters on here and in the media wont be happy.
But it’s good to see he is prepared to feed your hate with a drawing of himself by a student that will be his facebook photo.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/03/28/luxon-makes-good-on-profile-pic-promise-of-students-art/
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March 28, 2023 9:12am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  I don’t hate Chris Luxon. I just don’t think he is capable of leading a government that would save New Zealand.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:30am
  - bjools
    
    and your choice of those running…
    I contend, that….
    A blind dog, with a note in it’s mouth….would be better than anything Labour or the Greens have to offer.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:50am
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      Yes I agree. But a blind dog is not going to save the nation.
      
      A government better than the current lot is hardly an inspiring objective.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:09am
      - bjools
        
        But it is an improvement, rather than a regressive step, of voting for the current bunch of incompetent circus clowns.
        A quote by an American senator, that I heard once.
        “We are not looking for the best bill possible, we are looking for the best possible bill” (they were passing legislation.
        Here I contend….We are not looking for the best Govt. possible, but the best possible Govt.
        
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        March 28, 2023 10:22am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        He is not blind, his policies will answer, perhaps he doesn’t get the things right all the time over things like Davidson, but he was tight protecting free speech is correct, snd he did state he did not know what context Davisons rang was delivered, I would imagine he thinks it’s a racist rant now
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:42am
    - leoj
      
      ….in other words, the least worst.
      
      Personally, I am tired of mediocrity, which is another word for “give up”.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:21am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It’s a two horse bloody race, both will be seen as bad by someone
        
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        March 28, 2023 11:42am
  - nathie
    
    Well of course I also would like Chris Luxon to be “stronger” too but here’s a thought.
    
    We know ACT will shore up the Right vote (and let’s hope they get more MP’s elected via the List).
    
    Now (and to unpopular ‘demand’ here on the blogs) if National and Luxon can regain that middle ground that was lost to Labour in 2020 then that’s a win for a National/ACT coalition.
    
    Now here’s the thought (popped into my head yesterday) …. what if National/Luxon attracted back to National the so-called “blue-green” voters (the so-called urban housewives) that vote Green Party (cos “climate change” and so one) …. but was successful enough so that the Green vote “collapses” (i.e. they are only left with their 2-3% hard-left voter base) that the Greens are ejected from Parliament!!??
    
    Now wouldn’t that be the best ever MMP result – the Watermelons no longer being the ideologically dangerous radicals in Parliament (influencing Labour) i.e. well away from the levers of power?
    
    Whoop whoop!
    
    So c’mon National and ACT supporters – how about working together for NZ’s best future!
    
    Let National and Luxon “eat the greens”!
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:50am
    - bjools
      
      My best make up of Parliament
      National in govt. with 52% and ACT in opposition with 48%.
      Reversed at the following election.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:05am
    - Paulus
      
      A vote for ACT will weaken a National Vote as it will dilute from traditional National Voters. and thereby let Labour and the Greens capture more seats.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:46am
  - Gravelroad
    
    I don’t hate Mr Luxon either.
    I don’t know him.
    No use getting emotional about it @Warren. It is up to him and his advisors to be more clever about the marketing of what he stands for and what he can achieve.
    Yes, nice drawing.
    Reminds of some of the ones Ms Ardern used to put up after a primary school visit – and people on here ridiculed her for it.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:54am
    - Random T Person
      
      Spot on Gravel.
      
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      March 28, 2023 10:07am
      - mawm
        
        Is this what the National party has become? If someone criticises a clearly under performing, tone deaf PM-wanna-be for not having the strength of character to stand up to people about his beliefs (not religious) and clearly enunciate his disgust at what happened they are automatically a “hater”. This sounds horribly like the Democrats and their hangers-on in the US. And if ACT is congratulated for voicing what we all are thinking suddenly it is us that are going to give NZ yet another term of Labour. Grow up.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:49pm
    - leoj
      
      He should not need advisors to tell him what to believe.
      
      So far, he has been totally disappointing because we now know what is in his heart.
      
      So far, all he has proved is that he is gutless and woke.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:24am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He let the kids have a drawing contest, he has stuck firm to his word, that should point people who say he is now lying about policy something to think about
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:47am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    So we have had two of the worst PMs in the last 6 months, how the he’ll could he be any worse
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:39am
    - mawm
      
      Give him a chance; he’s trying his best to be.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:50pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I too, don’t hate Luxon.
    I just keep saying he is a good manager but not a good leader.
    Too late to change now.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:35pm
    - Tommo
      
      That’s exactly it
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:01pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He promised the winner of the comp he would, watch the lunatics call him an idiot or a plonker
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:38am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @G-
    Plenty of “lunatics ” called out Ms Ardern as an idiot (amongst other things) for going on kindy and school visits and displaying children’s artwork that she had been given.
    I am sure you would remember that.
    But different when someone from the “right” does it perhaps.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:25pm
Maggie Pie

And see where Mayor Wayne is busy cancelling, or sub-letting, new and existing Commercial floor space leases all over town.
Whilst an exact figure is not available, it’s believed it could save Ratepayers more than $20m a year!

Thank fcuk that idiot Goff took a job on the other side of the world 😀

(Makes you wonder how someone like Brownie would go as leader of the Nats? )
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March 28, 2023 9:15am
- Nickc2
  
  Makes you wonder how someone like Brownie would go as leader of the Nats?
  Yes please, hurry up FFS.
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:31am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    😀
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is too late. We are stuck with Luxon. He must have some supporters.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:38pm
- Burtland
  
  yeah Goff got a promotion for his stupidity
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:42am
  - Nickc2
    
    …. and Akld ratepayers are still paying for it!
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:05am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    No promotion for Cindy yet, I guess they will have to give her the CHCH call gig for 600 k a year, plus free travel to idiot countries like France, Spain and Canada
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:10pm
Colville

Should New Zealand have an honest discussion about the possibility of nuclear power??

I believe yes as in 20 or 30 years time it would take us to DO anything we will need it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/300837891/newsable-does-our-antinuclear-approach-need-a-rethink
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March 28, 2023 9:25am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Of course we should, but the chances of an honest discussion about anything at all in today’s New Zealand are less than are my chances of playing for the All Blacks
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:49am
- Burtland
  
  is an honest discussion possible after the last weekend?
  – theres no adults left in the room
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:44am
  - Ghost
    
    Why, nothing happened last weekend that changed anything in New Zealand. People seem to think it did, but you’d have ignore the past few years to believe that.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:57am
  - thirteenstars
    
    True.
    
    Any new hydro development is almost guaranteed to fail let alone suggestions of a nuclear station.
    
    It’s going to take $1,000 power bills and blackouts before Kiwis come to reality.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:37pm
    - Drone
      
      Come back in 12 months time when that will be the case. I find it interesting that in the UK the government have capped power bills.
      To quote from https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/what-is-the-energy-price-cap/?gclid=CjwKCAjw_YShBhAiEiwAMomsEFPLr-pAWM1KIdHB_Hh8qaHoBNPt9n_u0sO8CjVLb-KBvmsyL_CB0BoCXWoQAvD_BwE
      
      “The energy price cap, set by Ofgem, limits the maximum amount energy suppliers can charge you for each unit of energy you use if you live in England, Scotland and Wales.
      
      The cap was due to rise again by 80% from 1 October for 24 million people. But, the UK Government has now frozen typical energy bills at £2,500 from October for the next two years. This is almost £1,000 less than typical bills would have risen to under the cap.
      
      Why was the energy price cap introduced?
      It was introduced by Ofgem, the body that regulates energy in Great Britain, in January 2019. It followed concerns that many people, particularly those who did not switch supplier to find cheaper deals, were paying too much for their energy. ”
      
      Maybe NZ needs a local version.
      
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      March 28, 2023 7:34pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  NZ needs nuclear now. The small modular reactors.
  Only one problem – those who live in the dark with candle light will stop it.
  You know who I mean.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:00pm
nathie

Yeessss Sesh delivers!!! (Sesh is Mike King’s son).

His thoughts on the weekend counter protest violence.

Again he is not “ant-trans” as such, instead he is pointing out the hypocrisy of them denying others their right to speak.

It’s a long video (over 13min) but well worth every minute. Yes he starts off a bit “rough” but soon gets into his stride and highlights hypocrisy in news clips (and concludes) the Greens’ Chlöe Swarbrick “needs to be fired immediately”!!

For Sesh it looks like he operates on “principles” (not left wing indoctrination), looks like some of NZ’s younger generation continue to give us “hope” and some clarity in this crazy place urban NZ has become under our “beloved & kind” Labour Govt!

https://twitter.com/DertySesh/status/1640232256903213056
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March 28, 2023 9:26am
- Dave
  
  At the spinoff Anna Rāwhiti-Connell offers an alternative view of the counter protest which, according to the photo caption, she found to be ‘joyful, life-affirming and full of love’ with all the music and noise, and she describes as brilliant someone else’s phrase, ‘cacophony of aroha’.
  
  But then she gives the game away by writing, [t]he point of that noise was to make it impossible for Posie Parker to speak.
  
  Yes, it’s helpful to know who the wanna-be authoritarians among us are.
  
  https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/26-03-2023/an-alternative-view-of-the-angry-protest-crowd
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:37am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That was enjoyable. He tore Chloe to shreds.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:01pm
- thirteenstars
  
  Well, that came out of nowhere. Sharp and right on message. And in this day and age I have to say: he’s the right age and the right colour.
  
  He sure looks like his dad.
  
  Direct link to Rumble video:
  
  https://rumble.com/v2ez5a6-thoughts-on-the-trans-protest-this-weekend.html
  
  Hit the follow button and raise that young man’s profile.
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:33pm
ClanMcleod

Emerson’s cartoon in the Sunday Whoreald is a spectacular backfire. KJK skewers him in this tweet.

https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1639753932720177154?s=20

Congratulations Whoreald!! I never thought I’d say those words!!
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March 28, 2023 9:37am
- andrew davies
  
  It should have been a closed fist with a rainbow on it, not a pointing finger.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:11am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    ouch……
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:01pm
- alex Masterley
  
  CM – I think the cartoon is a classic.
  The point of the cartoon – emphasising the reality of the protesters and their attitude to KJK.
  It makes her case.
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:11pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    alex Masterley – exactly, that was Posie Parker’s response in the tweet. Big hairy male hand telling a diminutive woman to stfu.
    What an own goal by Emerson.
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:32pm
thirteenstars

OK, here it is folks, the drone footage of the assault on free speech at Albert Park, Auckland.

I’ve been waiting for this because drone footage gives us a good, clear view of what happened.

Fifteen minutes before it kicks off. Note the size of the crowd. Not too large.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQatSujp5I

Just before Parker makes her appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXYXH8J3dTc

You can clearly see a wide area between the protestors and the speakers. Two barriers separating them. Then a trans-nymph creature dances across and as if on signal a large drag queen kicks the barrier open. He later elbow-punched an older man in the face, here:

https://twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639847948371759104

Where are the NZ Police? There should have been at least a few scattered within that clear area which would have prevented any incursion. But no, they were standing under a tree shading themselves while women were being assaulted or they were lined up on the road some distance away being staunch in their rainbow-awareness. This is fully documented elsewhere.

Then, the moment free speech is violently assaulted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTXEy5OFBk

Note the orange jackets of the security guys escorting Parker out, and note the big drag queen who assaulted the older gentleman eagerly following the action. What a piece of work. Remember folks, drag queens now read stories to schoolkids in NZ.

Other views here:

https://www.youtube.com/@SimonRAnderson

What a bloody disgrace. Every Kiwi should hang their heads to have allowed their country to lower itself to this state.

The NZ Police should be deeply ashamed of themselves for abandoning their legal duty to maintain public order. What a bunch of blue-uniformed, politically-correct, delinquent rabble, driving around with the rainbow flag on their vehicles. Holy shit, it’s sickening, despicable behaviour and some bastard needs to answer for it.

Thanks to Simon Anderson and his drone footage.
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March 28, 2023 9:38am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  Thanks really interesting.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:17am
- ClanMcleod
  
  The more we get to see, the worse it is. What an utterly embarrassing day for this country and what a despicable response from the politicians, particularly from the left. Luxon weak as water, Seymour at least has spoken up.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:42am
- Paulus
  
  Remember it was Smoko time for the Police.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:48am
- thirteenstars
  
  Here is the big drag queen who elbow-punched the older man above, Trinity Ice, feted in the media:
  
  https://twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639863399357247490/photo/2
  
  https://twitter.com/KiwiLithium/status/1639863399357247490/photo/1
  
  As clear a case of unprovoked violent assault as you could ever see. This bloke is a high-profile public figure whose whereabouts will be no secret.
  
  I wonder, have the NZ Police paid a visit to him? Have they given him a ride in one of their rainbow-flagged police cars? Perhaps they are undertaking extra sensitivity training with an accredited Rainbow Tick training provider before they pretend to do their duty.
  
  Again, sickening.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:52am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Toxic masculinity writ large
    
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    March 28, 2023 1:28pm
- Bridgenag
  
  Sent your post to Luxon and Seymour
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:31am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Good on you.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:48am
- jon
  
  And we were told by Luxon it was largely a peaceful event!!
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Drone? Bugger. I have a drone MavicPro. I should have gone and recorded it.
  Dam.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:05pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    There are some YouTube channels that specialise in drone footage of such events.
    
    It’s a really unique perspective because you can just put the drone in a slow lazy circle and let the action speak for itself with no cuts.
    
    And it’s a safe way for a photojournalist to get right in the action without any danger to themselves or their expensive equipment.
    
    It’s important to get the audio.
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:11pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  That was interesting. Simon Anderson has given permission to share it.
  How about Facebook?
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:18pm
  - thirteenstars
    
    Can’t say I enjoy Facebook but feel free to repost it anywhere you like.
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:08pm
bjools

Something in the news.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/03/increasing-number-of-snapper-caught-in-hauraki-gulf-suffering-from-starvation.html

Maybe we should ask the greens what happened to:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391563/govt-criticised-for-silence-on-kermadec-ocean-sanctuary
Also heard on TV3, there would be a study into bottom trawling and whether it was impacting their food.
But it was the next bit that made me laugh….AND whether “climate change was having an impact”….
What a waste of time….
If the answer is YES….what can you do…
and if the answer is NO….there is nothing to do…
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March 28, 2023 9:41am
CAKE FACE1

‘Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?’ Clint Eastwood.

I thought about this quote when I saw the police dawdling and chilling out, down a side street, while Posie Parker was being assaulted by a feral mob.

I can’t help wondering why the police weren’t there, around Posie, protecting her?

If it is revealed that the police sat back due to political instructions, that would be the end of this government. It would be much worse than Watergate.

I wonder if Official Information Act requests have been made on this topic yet?
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March 28, 2023 9:42am
- Its only I
  
  Police would instinctively react if they were out on patrol normally and witnessed behaviour like this…that is what policing is and it happens every night somewhere in NZ.
  
  They had instructions not to.
  By whom and why.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:11am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Good point.
    
    If I ran up to cop at any time of the day or night and told them that around the corner a bunch of people were assaulting a woman, they’d be off like a shot and arrest the perps. Hell, if they thought someone was only being *threatened* with assault they’d do the same.
    
    Yet on Saturday, with many people going up to them and telling them exactly the same thing, they stood back and let it happen.
    
    I’ll tell you what that is, it’s a failure to perform their legally-mandated duties, which is dereliction of duty, and it’s complicity with the mob.
    
    A some point you don’t get to use the Nuremburg Defence–I was just following orders–and you have to take responsibility for not acting upon your own initiative.
    
    What if a couple of those cops simply couldn’t stomach the spectacle of women being assaulted and went into the crowd and protected them? Would they have been disciplined for disobeying orders? What exactly would be the charge? Doing their sworn duty to maintain public order?
    
    Somebody has to speak. Hopefully a cop who is sickened by what happened, if only anonymously, enough to crack the silent blue wall that the NZ Police have always been so very expert at erecting.
    
    This is where leadership matters most. Luxon or Seymour must state clearly that a National/ACT coalition will hold an enquiry into police conduct on that day. That will put this government and the police on the back foot and hopefully someone will sing.
    
    Of course, that assumes that Luxon (“looked pretty peaceful”) or Seymour have the moral courage to weigh the evidence of their own eyes and come to such a position.
    
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    March 28, 2023 4:06pm
- Widogast Corwin
  
  You would need a major independent inquiry to find out. The Minister would not be so stupid as to put anything in writing.
  
  I doubt we will ever know the truth.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:22am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
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  I can’t help wondering why the police weren’t there, around Posie, protecting her?
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  Not their job to surround and protect Posie and its naive to think they would.
  
  Bad optics would set a dangerous precedent for every foreign shitstirrer looking to Aotearoa for some free publicity.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:32am
  - Lance
    
    Violent Mob Rulz for NZ aye BWAV?
    So who gets persecuted next, religious groups?
    Oh and BTW the thugs did start denouncing said groups.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:32am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    OK, so lets say you go to Albert Park with a megaphone and a soap box. You give a speech on a Saturday morning. On anything. Maybe the impact of colonisation on Maori. The Treaty in the 21st century. Doesn’t matter really.
    
    The far right group ‘Action Zealandia’ has announced on social media that the evil chap ‘Black with a Vengeance’ will not be permitted to speak.
    
    https://action-zealandia.com/
    
    Your plight receives widespread media coverage. You say you are determined to go ahead.
    
    You don’t think the police should show up?
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:33am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      They can show up if they want, but they should stand back and stand by.
      
      Which they did at Parker’s event.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:46am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        OK, so you think the police forces of Western Australia, South Australia, Victoria, New South Wales, Queensland, Tasmania, and the Australian Federal Police are all deluded. To varying degrees they all deployed significant police numbers at her events to ensure that she and her supporters could speak, while allowing the ‘trans’ protestors to shout and wave. It is called upholding law and order.
        
        The South Australian police were the gold standard. Things had gone downhill by Hobart and Canberra, but the events went ahead. In Canberra the AFP tackled a Senator to the grounds when she was spotted rushing at KJK.
        
        So the New Zealand police watched all this and learned nothing? Let me guess you will tell me that “Aoteraroa is different’ or something.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:14pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Ozzy cops like a bit of biffo.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:22pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        “Ozzy cops like a bit of biffo”
        
        So do Māori
        ‘ In New Zealand here is the data for violent offending for 2022:
        
        Gender: 79% male, 21% female
        Ethnicity: 51% Maori, 29% European, 11% Pacific, 2% Indian, 1% Asian’
        
        Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:33pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
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        [Mod – your account is banned]
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:16pm
  - rouppe
    
    Yeah kinda… I agree they are not a private security that should be at the beck and call of anyone.
    
    But they were present in Wellington Civic Square the very next day “keeping groups separated“.
    
    What’s the difference?
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:41am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      The foreign agitator wasn’t present requiring a taxpayer funded security detail.
      
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      March 28, 2023 11:56am
      - Widogast Corwin
        
        “Foreign agitator”. You sound like a xenophobic pretend revolutionary.
        
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        March 28, 2023 12:16pm
      - rouppe
        
        You’re confused.
        
        The event where Parker was present (Auckland), did not warrant police action, but the event where the event in Wellington did have active police presence.
        
        So I ask again: why was it necessary and visible in Wellington?
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:15pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Rouppe @ 1:15PM
        The Coppers were present in Wgtn because their hierarchy realised they’d fucked up in Akld.
        It’s commonly called ‘trying to protect your arse’.
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:26pm
      - Pineapple Lumps
        
        I call BS on this. There were plenty of NZ woman there wanting to speak. Are they not worthy of police assistance? Of course they were. You are reprehensible BWAV. Enjoy your holiday.
        
        Some of the woman only felt safe once under the protection of destiny church. A group they are completely ideologically misaligned to. Because the police wouldn’t protect them.
        
        The police have a duty to maintain peace, prevent crime and apprehend anyone seen committing crime.
        
        NZ Police hang your heads in shame!
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:20pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  The same applies to the thuggish actions of police at the Beehive at the end of the protest. I believe the orders were given from the 9th floor to end the protest at any cost. If not directly then indirectly.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:44am
- mogg
  
  After this event, by instruction from on high, and with police and media collusion it has become very obvious that biological women in NZ have been cancelled. Posie Parker has achieved her goal, by making it clear that the opinions of natural born women are not wanted or to be allowed. That is her message to us.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:51am
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    This group in the UK is the latest in the firing line:
    
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/12/i-came-out-late-only-to-findlesbians-slipped-back-of-queue
    
    “The Lesbian Project” promotes the rights of lesbians – biological women who are sexually attracted to biological women. It has come under savage attack from ‘trans lesbians’ who have been excluded from this new club.
    
    ““We’re a joyful and inclusive community and we won’t allow our trans siblings to be erased and excluded.”
    
    https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/03/26/the-lesbian-project-the-dyke-project/
    
    Except some lesbians are clear that they do not want to be mixed with “trans lesbians”. It is hardly surprising that many women who are sexually attracted to other women are not sexually attracted to people with penises, regardless of whether such people say “Hey we are women too.”
    
    It is insanity. But that is what we have become.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:40am
    - All_on_Red
      
      LGB aren’t really together with TQ+…
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:37pm
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Posie Parker has achieved her goal, by making it clear that the opinions of natural born women are not wanted or to be allowed. That is her message to us.
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    If it is to be an issue for Aotearoa wahine toa, it will be led by them for them and not by Posie.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:19pm
    - mogg
      
      That is exactly what KJK intends, that is her purpose.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:32pm
    - Widogast Corwin
      
      good grief.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:49pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        I know, he’s really thick
        He’s almost like a Parody account
        
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        March 28, 2023 1:37pm
      - Black with a Vengeance
        
        I know, he’s really thick
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        March 28, 2023 3:19pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      BWAV – apparently NZ women did lead it.
      
      https://twitter.com/MKorero/status/1640140420075393025?s=20
      
      ManaWāhineKōrero
      
      Mōrena. We’d like to thank everyone for their outpouring of support and aroha in light of the horrendous TRA violence displayed for all the world to see at the #LetWomenSpeak event in Auckland on Saturday.
      
      MWK collaborated with other women to organise the NZ events.
      
      Maybe send them a thank you?
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:11pm
      - Yabster
        
        Black is just a race baiter with too much time on his hands- not alot of point in engaging with him- in my opinion. He will no doubt explode again sometime soon and will get yet another lengthy ban.
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Seems the person to ask is Inspector Gary Davey.
  Could be wrong, don’t think so.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:22pm
bjools

Something else in the news
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-school-shooting-covenant-school/
[Mod – please don’t use these deaths to attack a nz politican]
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March 28, 2023 9:44am
- Libertarians are right
  
  Audrey/Aiden Hale. Biologically female but identified as male so the media are misgendering them?
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:28am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    LAR – certainly doesn’t sound like a “white cis male”. Whatever the fuck that is, other than a label for some moron to use to abuse someone they don’t even know. Right up there with “anti vaxxer”.
    
    The liberal left are a danger to all of us.
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I have yet to find out if the School was in a “Gun Free Zone”
  That is where the deranged cowards usually go.
  The School needs this:
  https://rumble.com/v16qrgr-this-is-the-last-thing-youll-see…-florida-sheriff-issues-warning-to-schoo.html
  Grave – Yard – Dead.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:27pm
  - Ghost
    
    No, they usually go to the school they went to, and in a lot of cases we bullied in. Don’t call them cowards, this is the same way the USA likes to report they are monsters, instead of actually getting to the bones of the issue which is mental health.
    
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    March 28, 2023 1:33pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      “Mental health issues” are looking more like the result of 30 years of telling kids nothing is their fault and if their life isn’t perfect it’s somebody else who caused it.
      I’m not trying to diminish it, but something horrendous has happened. The era I grew up in wasn’t much after the 2nd world war. There was genuine poverty everywhere. People were bullied at school. Life was pretty miserable for many years, but nobody decided to go back and kill those they think or were told were “responsible” for their bad thoughts.
      Like I say, I don’t trivialise mental health issues. I had them for a few years after a life threatening physical assault on me. I grew up in the “take a concrete pill and htfu” era. So I did. It didn’t make the negative thoughts go away and I still suffer from what they call PTSD. I learned how to deal with it.
      Maybe not politically correct, but it seemed to be a saner world than the one we are currently heading towards.
      
      Favourite quote from The Princess Bride. “Life is pain highness. anyone who says otherwise is selling you something.”
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:23pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I think you missed my meaning. The children are not cowards, far from it.
      The mentally ill shooters are cowards.
      Sorry, I should have made that clear, as I see how it could be mis-read from my meaning.
      
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      March 29, 2023 9:23am
- bjools
  
  [Mod – 3 children and 3 adults have been killed, it’s not something to be used to try and make a point with a nz politican]
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:27pm
  - bjools
    
    Are you suggesting using the same stick to beat her with, that she uses (with apparent impunity) to beat us with?
    One rule for a racist politician and one rule for us?
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:05pm
Its only I

Interesting comments about the rainbow mafia I have found..not from cis(wtf is that) men

That mob were Adult sized children.
Physically fully grown -but mentally still children.
Witness the coloured hair, clothing/style, like a uniting uniform so they all look the same, not individuals but conforming to set of rules to belong.. and the tantrums, the stomping feet red faced total commit tanty.
Still reliving their “trauma” from high school when they were bullied for being weird – by other children.
Running around saying “it’s not fair” – finding at university (finally) a peer group of like minded weirdo’s, to commiserate with and form a support group.
And now it is their (righteous) time to continue the cycle of bullying…payback.
Not realising that everyone else actually grew up and moved on.
You be you, nobody really gives a shit.

Those spoilt little shits, picture those rainbow terrorists as dudes in diapers and their placards and noise makers as children’s chew toys…the spoilt little entitled pointless shits.

Also remember they don’t represent anything at all outside of their own damaged mind, certainty not the genuine, the humans that don’t want to be pigeonholed into a behaviour pattern required by the anonymous twitter keepers of an acronym to be themselves.
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March 28, 2023 10:01am
- Lance
  
  Fair analysis
  Children think in extremes, you are either 110% for us or our enemy, global warming will kill every living thing on earth, I either get what I want… NOW… or I will die etc
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:37am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It’s what they’ve been indoctrinated with for almost 40 years. “I want, I need, I deserve, give it to me or I’ll throw my toys……..” Reap what you sow etc.
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:32pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  They will never grow into adults.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:28pm
- MCōs
  
  Were you there were you?
  My daughter was. She doesn’t have multicolored hair. Was never bullied at school. She’s certainly not ‘weird’. She doesn’t have a damaged mind . . . . .
  She went to the protest on Saturday to show support trans gender people.
  Judging by the photos she took those around her were of a like mind.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:29pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    MCōs – genuinely curious, how was going to a rally to stop a woman from speaking about women’s rights “supporting transgender people”?
    
    I knew nothing about the whole thing until a few days ago, so I started trying to find out who this “terrible, far right Nazi” was. Because that’s what the mainstream media and the alphabet crowd were telling us was coming. I thought it was literally Hitler reincarnated.
    
    I can find nothing that she has ever said to indicate she is “anti trans” or “far right” or a “Nazi”.
    She says “a woman is an adult human female”. I can find neither anything wrong with that statement, nor anything remotely “anti trans” in that statement. It is a fact.
    
    What abuses of human rights do these people suffer from or which are they restricted access to? I have quite a few friends in the gay community, they are extremely concerned about the actions of what appears to be a minority fringe group. They are worried that the images of the lunatics will impact negatively on the whole community.
    
    I certainly believe many NZers went there believing this group are somehow abused or targeted in some way. Your daughter likely one of them. But the mainstream media are clearly lying
    in the same way they did when they attacked the protesters in Wellington and labeled them in a similar fashion as they have done with Posie Parker/KJK. “Far right, rivers of filth, misogynists” etc etc.
    
    Happy for you to enlighten me, but KJK isn’t attacking trans, she’s defending women and it certainly looks as though they need protecting. Secondly, unless you can convince me differently, this group of people who live their chosen lifestyle are not persecuted or restricted from going about that life in any way.
    
    Unlike the NZers who simply chose not to take part in a medical experiment.
    
    If your daughter can tell you what abuses it was she was “defending” let me know. I’m genuinely keen to try and understand all of this.
    
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    March 28, 2023 2:48pm
  - Its only I
    
    So MCōs,
    She wasn’t punching old people in the face, pushing over barriers or throwing liquids at those she dose not like, she was there to listen to what the speakers were going to say and see if it matched the results of the research she had been conducting before she turned up?
    Certainly wasn’t rolling along to the riot reacting to the things the media said or was borrowing someone else’s cause as their own to fill an empty life or simply scout for a like minded partner.
    
    Good for her MCōs you must be a good parent, your daughter didn’t succumb to the mechanism of social conformity that places pressure on people to think or behave in certain ways, which was determined by the peer group she was rioting with…otherwise known as peer pressure.
    
    Did she condemn the punching of old people in the face, pushing over barriers or throwing liquids at those she may or may not like equally, was she upset she was not able to listen to what the speakers were going to say and see if it matched the results of the research she had been conducting before she turned up?
    
    I hope she wasn’t hurt trying to stop the riot like so many others were…
    
    I would be speculating, but I think she would be buzzing over the self defeating results of the riot she was part of. As you seem to be
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:38pm
  - Yabster
    
    support for what? certainly can’t have be trans people as the rally was about woman rights.
    
    The violence at the rally was disgusting. One sign summed the mob up “We won’t tolerate the Intolerant” – Mcos do woman have penises in your world yes or no? (I do realise you lived in Thailand so may have had some direct knowledge of the subject…).
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:40pm
    - MCōs
      
      In Thailand there is far more acceptance of trans women than there is here. It’s the tourists who are more likely to be disrespectful.
      My wife has a niece who used to be her nephew. Does she still have a penis?
      We don’t know because nobody has told us and we haven’t asked.
      We also have a friend who was previously a female and is now male.
      What have you got to say about that?
      
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      March 28, 2023 5:03pm
      - Its only I
        
        Isn’t that how its supposed to work MCōs?
        
        People just getting along, not invading the space and lives of others…unlike the riot your daughter went to.
        
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        March 28, 2023 5:35pm
CAKE FACE1

I was thinking about Mr. Hipkins, or ‘Mr Fixit’, as the Team of $55 million describe him.

Kommissar Robbo doubled government spending in four years from 2018 – 2022, from $81 billion to $162 billion.

Mr. Hipkins said that government spending had fallen under Kommissar Robbo over this period.

This is one of those rare cases when you hope that Mr Hipkins was simply lying again.

For the record, I don’t think Mr Hipkins was lying, and the alternative option is truly mind-blowing and scary.

Let me repeat the facts. Mr Hipkins is so incompetent that he didn’t realise that Kommissar Robbo’s spending had doubled on his watch. Mr Hipkins thought spending went down, when nominal spending doubled.

What level of incompetence does this represent?

Of course, Mr Hipkins destroyed the Polytechs. He was the worst Minister of Education in New Zealand’s history. He was a terrible Police Minister.

It seems that Mr Fixit is actually a bumbling fool. Everything he touches, he breaks. His attention to detail does not exist. Even his attention to the big picture is non-existent.

I don’t want to hate on the guy. He seems to be pleasant enough. Yet the evidence is clear.

Mr Hipkins is grossly incompetent.

The fact that The Team of $55 Million almost universally describe Mr Hipkins as ‘Mr Fixit’ is simply gaslighting.
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March 28, 2023 10:05am
- rockape
  
  I think Labour has got away with so much under Ardern. The people are slowly waking up. In my home area we have lots of lifestyle blocks who vote Labour or Green. I know because I canvas them at election time, the will not be voting the same way this election. The word I keep hearing is disappointment.
  We meet socially and what I hear is “She could have done so much but didn’t . I think the disaster that is Labour has been shown up in health, education and inflation. Higher interest rates are not helping either.
  I wrote here some time ago that the next election will be won by the right, because they are angry and will vote. The left are so disappointed I think they will see a very low turnout. Labour are going to reap what they sowed and that was damn poor seed.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:38am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Ardern is a talker, not a doer
    
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    March 28, 2023 1:30pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      SO – she’s a mobile windmill with solar panels for teeth. They should hook her up to the grid. No need for coal or nuclear…….
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:50pm
    - Swifty
      
      I would modify that slightly.
      
      Ardern was a talker, not an achiever.
      
      She DID plenty, trouble was it just wasn’t effective. It many cases she left things worse.
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:53pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Well, here’s a conundrum (I think).

Our Government encourages us to use Māori words (kupu) when we speak and write (NZ English).

Some Maori folk were celebrating that some kupu had been included in the latest Oxford Dictionary of English (English English)

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/486223/oxford-english-dictionary-adds-more-maori-words-sign-of-te-reo-normalisation-expert

But are we just assimilating te reo out of existence?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/03/lawyer-slams-oxford-english-dictionary-for-including-m-ori-kupu.html
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March 28, 2023 10:07am
- septic skeptic
  
  Aotearoan Pidgin will wreck both languages in NZ.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:35am
  - Paulus
    
    But am I wrong in that only 2% of the New Zealand population can speak Maori.
    In addition are there more than 10,000 Maori words in the Maori Dictionery yet ?
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:51am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Who knows how many words? They have no alphabet, they had to borrow one.
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:32pm
  - Jack5
    
    Septic Skeptic is correct about NZ Pidgin being dangerous for the Maori language.
    
    However, with New Zealanders accounting for less than 0.01 per cent of the world’s English language speakers, NZ Pidgin won’t put a dent in English.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:18pm
- nathie
  
  Agree, the rush of the Govt and Ministries to rename everything (Ministries, institutions, agencies etc) with a Māori name (or phrase) is not the Māori way.
  
  The Māori way is to take time, to discuss, to reach consensus, and if that takes a long time then so be it, it takes a long time.
  
  I think the Govt has made a mistake in their handling of this issue (which is nothing more than woke virtue signalling). They have “alienated” many Pakeha and now risk “alienating” thinking Māori.
  
  IMO, the best practice would be to let Govt ministries/agencies/institutions etc continue to be known by their English name, especially if they represent all NZ’ers eg hospitals, NZTA etc (but sure add a secondary Māori phrase to follow but consult widely first).
  
  And let Maori run entities (eg Te Wānanga o Aotearoa for Māori led education, Whānau Ora iniatives, Kaupapa Māori Support Services etc) have Maori names so that everyone knows who their target audience is (and sure give an English secondary translation).
  
  Keep it simple, keep it fit for purpose.
  
  Why does modern day politicians and Ministries (the drivers of change) not understand this? Instead they are waste precious time and funding “re-writing” things (customs) all without a mandate, as well as upsetting thinking Pakeha and Māori along the way. Madness!
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:35am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    The Māori way is to take time, to discuss, to reach consensus, and if that takes a long time then so be it, it takes a long time.
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    Coming up to 200 years…
    
    There is some truth in the ‘too much hui, not enough dooey’ maxim.
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:39am
- Burtland
  
  whitey first stole their land
  then stole their kulture
  and now whitey is stealing the language
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:05am
  - Black with a Vengeance
    
    Bad whitey!
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:34am
  - Bridgenag
    
    Let whitey pay for everything…..sigh
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:44am
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      Until all treaty claims are settled. Then the onus will be on Maori…
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:13pm
      - Matt Long
        
        When treaty claims are all settled and when the Sun implodes and destroys all life in the solar system.
        Same date for both things.
        
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        March 28, 2023 6:06pm
CAKE FACE1

Mr Luxon will be the next Prime Minister of New Zealand, by a landslide.

For me, Prime Minister is no where near as important a position as the Minister of Finance. The Prime Minister role is largely ceremonial and marketing. Finance is where the real decisions are made.

Roger Douglas was the most important person in the Fourth Labour government. David Lange just ensured Labour got elected.

Kommissar Robbo is the most important person in this government. Cindy Adolt just ensured Labour was elected.

The salient issue, when National / ACT get elected, is who will be the Minister of Finance.

Of course, Mr Seymour is smart, and knows the above, and will want Finance. Maybe, if ACT score highly enough in the election, he could get it?

I’ll be happy with Mr Luxon as Prime Minister.

I’m more interested to see if Nicola Willis will be the Minister of Finance. If she is, I hope she steels herself to make unpopular changes. Government spending needs to be cut.

The alternative to major reform is becoming a failed state.
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March 28, 2023 10:29am
- nathie
  
  Will history judge Grant Robertson rather unkindly as the worst Finance Minister in NZ’s history?
  
  He lacks fiscal prudence and is overspending by tens of billions of dollars per year. And continuing to do so stroking the flames of inflation whilst everyday NZ’er suffer his foolishness by paying higher food and goods prices, higher mortgage interest rates and higher rental costs and so on (simply in order to bring down the inflation that he and Labour are creating, on purpose)! All in order to curb expenditure that Robertson is exceeding by magnitudes more and laughing his head off about it when challenged by the weak MSM.
  
  I somehow think not only will Grant Robertson be judged unkindly by history, he will be held up as an exemplar of what not to do, over forthcoming generations.
  
  Grant Robertson, the robber of NZ’s children’s and grand children’s futures, as they pay back his debt and cope with higher living costs. What a legacy!
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:44am
  - Burtland
    
    and weve still not had the election year spend-up
    
    worst things still to come i think
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:10am
    - nathie
      
      Good point, Labour’s election bribes will be off the scale!
      
      Oh well, that’ll be added to the History of NZ’s Worst Finance Minister, 2nd Volume!
      
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      March 28, 2023 2:31pm
  - Jack5
    
    The joint winners of the New Mugabe Prize are Robertson and Orr.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:10pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He thinks he is the best Min of fin ever, they say he has changed the super fund out of the business that use to look after it, now he has put it into the governments coffers making it look like debt is 50 billion lower, if this is correct it should be a case of fraud
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:21pm
Captain Mainwaring

Lower Hutt rates to go up by 9.9%.
Fcuk you Campbell Barry.
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March 28, 2023 10:35am
- mandk
  
  Meanwhile, here in Hutt Superior, Mayor Guppy has announced that rate increases will be 5.81%.
  
  Not great, but a better deal than under Labour Party stooge, Mayor Barry in Lower Hutt.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:57am
Zorba

Well played Posie Parker. Hipkins , Davidson, Gluckman, stuff, Stanford, Herald & Luxon are the gift that keeps giving, they still don’t get it, along with 90% of KBrs.
Fun fact, I had to Google who the leader of the opposition was. Maybe Luxon should hire Her comns team.
Brilliant work, well done Posie and you’re excellent comms team.
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March 28, 2023 10:39am
Swifty

Lengthy KJK interview with Brendon O’Neill, hot off the press

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iWawMxe91jg
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March 28, 2023 10:41am
Parnell Gun Club

[Mod – 3 children have died and 3 adults in this shooting, not going to let you post a stupid comment about Davidson in relation to this]
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March 28, 2023 10:45am
Albert_Ross

Has anybody come up with an actual, verbatim example of the genocidal, erosional hatred that Posie Parker continually spouts?
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March 28, 2023 10:55am
- Chris Nisbet
  
  No need. Facts don’t matter. She’s a Nazi. Just ask a trans activist.
  /s
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:06am
- Widogast Corwin
  
  A good question. As I have commented, most folk would agree with her three positions. There are some things she says that trigger trans activists. Key examples:
  
  “Women do not have penises” – trans activists very much assert that many women DO have penises.
  
  “No surgical and medical transitioning of children” – trans activists believe that children need “gender affirming medical care” aka as giving estrogen to boys and testosterone to girls.
  
  Those two positions of KJK are sufficient for her to be hated.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:12am
- David Garrett
  
  what, pray, does “erosional” mean? That’s one I am not familiar with…Mind you in these times when new words are invented every week, it’s entirely possible that I missed the creation of that one.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:16am
  - Albert_Ross
    
    Sorry, I meant “erasional”. Apparently it means “intending to erase”.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:19pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  No.
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:54pm
Bobba Fret

Absolute train wreck of an interview for Hipkins with Hosking this morning.
It’s worth a listen. Perhaps he will stop appearing on ZB like his predecessor.
Apologies if this has been put up already, busy this morning and haven’t had time to read all comments yet!
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/chris-hipkins-pm-says-marama-davidson-gets-a-little-bit-of-leeway-over-comments-as-shed-just-been-hit-by-a-motorbike/
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March 28, 2023 11:11am
Widogast Corwin

I just heard the Police Minister on the radio asserting that the police were present at Albert Park on Saturday and ‘were always ready to respond to any public disorder’. (I am paraphrasing – it was words along those lines.)

How can she just blatantly lie? We are damn lucky that KJK was not killed or very seriously injured. It was a close run thing.
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March 28, 2023 11:15am
- Black with a Vengeance
  
  We are damn lucky that KJK was not killed or very seriously injured.
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  Who is this we ?
  
  Posie needs to take responsibility for her own security.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:27am
  - mandk
    
    Why would she need to do that in a liberal democracy?
    
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    March 28, 2023 11:50am
  - David Garrett
    
    So let me ask you this Blackie…If this woman had been seriously injured or killed – given her own security was outnumbered by more than 100 to one, and there were no police present for a looooong four minutes or so – what would your reaction be?
    
    So what? Very regrettable? or just Couldn’t give a fuck, she got what she deserved?
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:08pm
    - thirteenstars
      
      Oh, this is a strong meme the Marxists have been going on about: why should we pay for her protection (the police, they mean) if she decides to come here and get people riled up?
      
      The assumptions and assertions in that point of view are the very definition of anti-liberalism.
      
      Get it straight. I have a right to speak. If you find my words provoking, walk away. If you decide to use violence to prevent me from speaking, it is the legal obligation–the sworn duty–of the police to prevent you from doing that, to restrain you, to arrest you, and to prosecute you.
      
      The NZ Police are derelict in that duty and they should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
      
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      March 28, 2023 12:21pm
    - Black with a Vengeance
      
      So let me ask you this Blackie…If this woman had been seriously injured or killed – given her own security was outnumbered by more than 100 to one, and there were no police present for a looooong four minutes or so – what would your reaction be?
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      My reaction would be that was a dumb thing to do.
      
      100 to 1 is not good odds. I think I’d choose another battle and guarantee to live and fight another day.
      
      If I then choose to take those odds and fight for my right to speak, then the consequences are on me…not the police, not my security, ME.
      
      Like I said, freedom of speech is not a hill I’m prepared to die on. If Posie is prepared to live and die by the courage of her words and convictions she needs to understand the real consequences that come from freedom of action…not words.
      
      She’s not in Kansas any more. Aotearoa Trans people are not to be fucked with!
      
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      March 28, 2023 1:25pm
      - nathie
        
        Tama leaga!
        
        So Women aren’t important?
        
        Might be time to send you to see one of the Aunties and you can tell them that to their face! 😹
        
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        March 28, 2023 2:40pm
      - James Stephenson
        
        Aotearoa Trans people are not to be fucked with!
        
        Didn’t you get the memo? Lesbians that don’t want to fuck with trans people are bigots and have a “genital fetish”.
        
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        March 28, 2023 2:46pm
      - Swifty
        
        “Aotearoa Trans people are not to be fucked with!”
        
        That’s not quite right.
        
        What Saturday proved is that there is a group of trans-supporting New Zealanders who would deny other New Zealanders their right to the freedom of speech and assembly.
        
        A very unwelcome development.
        
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        March 28, 2023 3:19pm
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    So a person goes to a public park to give a speech, lawfully, and is attacked by a mob of 2,000 crazy people, and the police know that is likely, you think they should just hide around the corner, all 6 of them?
    
    DPF is correct. A Green MP is giving a speech on Palestine. A bunch of militant Jews have promised to stop then event going ahead, signaling it widely. Prior to the event the same militant Jews have violently upended similiar events in Australia.
    
    The left in New Zealand would be outraged. they would demand a significant police deployment and they would get one.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:21pm
  - Widogast Corwin
    
    “Who is this we ?”
    
    Sane people.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:22pm
- Nickc2
  
  The new Minister of Police is full of shit IMO. It’s same old, same old, nothing’s changed.
  She should ask the victims of crime how well the ‘Wrap Around’ theory of dealing with crims works in practice.
  The NZ Police Force is in need of a clean-out of all the top brass.
  That’s a sentiment told to me by two serving Police Officers at the sharp end. They express their shame at the public’s view of themselves and their colleagues and that’s not good for anyone.
  We should IMO have respect for the Law and those tasked to enforce it eh?
  Unfortunately, it’s not going to happen under the current regime.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:29am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Widogast Corwin – you must be getting used to it by now? This government has been lying for almost 6 years. Every time their lips move. Kiwibuild, child poverty, “kind and caring”, “safe and effective” – I could go on but you get the picture.
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:57pm
- Prince
  
  All Govt ministers are liars. They brag to each other about it. They are trained to do it. The media laugh about it.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:08pm
Sideoiler

Luxon a day late and a dollar short again.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131619166/christopher-luxon-calls-for-marama-davidson-to-apologise-to-white-men
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March 28, 2023 11:37am
- Libertarians are right
  
  This has the bonus that it keeps Davidson’s bigotry in the news for another day, increasing the visibility of it.
  
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  March 28, 2023 11:48am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Libertarians are right – but notice, Davidson has apologised to the PM. She is NOT apologising to the people she hurled the baseless, racist slur at..
    
    So she’s only apoligising for embarrassing Hipkins. She is a racist and a misandrist.
    
    Smoke and mirrors.
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:10pm
- Jack5
  
  Good on Luxon!
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:05pm
- David Garrett
  
  Side: IMO the man is totally useless and ought to resign from parliament completely, and go back to doing what he’s best at: getting more gays and lesbians working in a large company.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:10pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Yep. No Mongrel to get stuff done.
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:15pm
  - Jack5
    
    It’s too late, too near the election for another National Party mutiny.
    
    It will either be Luxon-Seymour-(perhaps) Peters, OR Hipkins-Jackson.
    
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    March 28, 2023 1:24pm
  - Sideoiler
    
    David: He’s certainly not up to snuff, but he currently leads a party that is not up to snuff.
    God help us all if ACT don’t get twenty seats.
    
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    March 28, 2023 5:12pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  He said yesterday he did not know the context of what she said, he has clearly gone snd found out
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:24pm
thirteenstars

Here’s Julia Hartley-Brewer interviewing the UK Minister for Crime, Policing and Fire, Chris Philip, and his staunch defence of Kellie-Jay Keen’s right to speak:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1640267395892649985

Incredible that from the other side of the world, the politicians there seem more disgusted by what happened than most of our politicians.

Here’s the mentioned interview between Julia and KJK, now safely back in the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJqzD6CNaI
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March 28, 2023 11:44am
Jack5

How to make the Reserve Bank of NZ look good …

Zimbabwe reduced annual inflation to 87.6 per cent for March, reports Trading Economics. This was down from an annual rate of 92.3 per cent in February, and 285 per cent in August last year.

Zimbabwe’s inflation took off when Mugabe confiscated land of White farmers. Mugabe’s Government printed money as agricultural output collapsed.

Mugabe had ditched the old Rhodesian dollar for the Zimbabwe dollar at par (one for one). His new currency, through hyperinlation became worthless, and was was dropped in 2009. The Government then relied on foreign currencies, chiefly the US dollar and the South African rand.

In June 2019, Zimbabwe replaced the multi-currency system with the new Zimbabwe dollar. In March 2020, the Government allowed use of multiple foreign currencies again.

The Wall Street Journal reports that using US dollars as currency creates problems for Zimbabwe people in cash change. The country flies in paper dollars, but, because of weight, not coins.

Businesses have been printing their own “money”—scraps of paper, sometimes handwritten, that customers can use to pay for future purchases. Others are handing out change in-kind, such as juice boxes, pens, or slices of cheese.

The newspaper reports a the manager of a fast food group saying rapid devaluation made printed menus too expensive, so it’s is using screen displays of meals and prices. It prints US25c and US50c vouchers, with serial numbers, to issue as change.

Harare-based economist Gift Mugano told the WSJ that bank cards also aren’t widely used, as many Zimbabweans withdraw their salaries in U.S.-dollar cash the moment it hits their account.

“They’re calling it NMB bank,” said Mugano. “National Mattress Bank.”
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March 28, 2023 11:53am
- Master Mariner
  
  Did you read the utter nonsense from the Reserve Bank recently?
  On phone at sea. I think it was on Interest.co.nz
  Also my understanding is a lot of Africans are using mobile phones for payment ?
  Not really sure how this works.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:13pm
  - Jack5
    
    You are right about mobile payments being popular in Africa, Master Mariner.
    
    It may be good for some parts of NZ that are poorly served by bank branches. I know some banks let you pay by mobile to a list of busineses etc that you create. Perhaps a smart phone user on Kiwiblog can tell us how sophisticated mobile payments are in NZ.
    
    1. It’s popularity in Africa:
    
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/mobile-money-africa-prevalence-economics-technology/
    
    2. How it works:
    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mobile-payment.asp
    
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    March 28, 2023 12:32pm
thirteenstars

And the ridicule just keeps on coming, this time from the Lotus Eaters who give our country a well-deserved serve for what amounts to a violent temper tantrum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5olLGdCCo

We are a laughing stock, and these guys have a good laugh, and we deserve it for letting things get this bad.
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March 28, 2023 12:06pm
- lifesgood
  
  OMG! I’m squirming. How on earth can we fix things because this government and the bloody useless cops sure as hell don’t want to? I so wish I could leave.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:42pm
- Burtland
  
  theres some great commentary in here …
  
  “why would politics touch NZers in the middle of nowhere? ”
  
  “theyve been radicalized by the Greens and left wing government, whose spent their time paying off journo’s to propagandize the public to be left wing surfs”
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:59pm
Chuck Bird

Threats of violence again wins.

Auckland Council cancels venue bookings for co-governance adversaries

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-council-cancels-venue-bookings-for-co-governance-adversaries/D2XKYAWTPZHTLJXKOTVTNO7XUM/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1679946790
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March 28, 2023 12:09pm
- thirteenstars
  
  They should hold a public meeting at Albert Park and get Brian Tamaki’s boys to do security. Strictly business.
  
  If the bloody cops aren’t going to do their duty somebody has to keep the peace when free speech is under attack
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:22pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  So it is becoming very apparent that cancel culture is alive and well in NZ, but only when it doesn’t fit the agenda of the liberal left? This has to be stopped. It has to be stopped or the country will descend into anarchy or worse. I’ve lived through that shit, I don’t want to do it again.
  
  You CANNOT shut down narrative you don’t like, not while claiming to live in a true democracy. It is the road to fascism.
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:19pm
  - Nickc2
    
    This is not the NZ I am accustomed to or want! This is blatant racism in its worst form.
    Come on Mayor Wayne Brown, don’t let these racist bastards divide your city along racial lines whilst you are Mayor.
    Many people voted for you because they thought you were better than that.
    Don’t be intimidated by those who imply violence may occur.
    In short, Wayne, if you don’t stand up against this racist cancel culture, you stand for nothing in the eyes of your electors.
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:36pm
Mobile Michael

The Government’s Human Rights Commissioner excuses Saturday’s violence against a diminutive women by saying free speech is something only the privileged have. Not surprised, just disappointed.

Warning, don’t open this link unless you have an iron stomach or a nearby bucket to vomit in.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/human-rights-commissioner-paul-hunt-posie-parker-is-entitled-to-share-her-views/MX2BUKDAQJGQRKWQXDJDNNPNY4/
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March 28, 2023 12:23pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  Hunt needs to be fired right now. He is not fit for the role.
  As Human Rights Commissioner he absolutely should not be aligned with attempts to deny people their rights. He should be advocating an honest discussion of the issues, not trying to silence one side of the debate.
  
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  March 28, 2023 12:56pm
- Swifty
  
  Could someone please summarise Hunt’s arguments?
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:13pm
- Richard
  
  I noticed that he didn’t have a word to say about woman’s rights. Disgraceful.
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:21pm
Muttonbird

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Luxon wants an apology for white men. 😆

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131619166/christopher-luxon-wonders-about-a-marama-davidson-apology-for-white-men-pm-chris-hipkins-says-its-done
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March 28, 2023 12:37pm
- CAKE FACE1
  
  Muttonbird, are you still celebrating the 70 year old lady getting the bash from your communist friends?
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:51pm
  - Swifty
    
    Mutton thinks racism is perfectly fine when it comes from his side.
    
    Mutton doesn’t believe in pesky principles.
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:12pm
Gravelroad

So this is the Prime Minister’s craven response this lunchtime (reported in $tuff)to Mr Luxon’s request for an apology from Minister Davidson for calling cis white men violent:
“However, Prime Minister Chris Hipkins said there was “valid sentiment” behind Davidson’s comment, but that they had been conveyed incorrectly and didn’t bring the debate forward. Overall she had been doing “fantastic work” in the area.”
Wow – just Wow.
Mr Hipkins – you are gutless. No question.
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March 28, 2023 12:49pm
- mandk
  
  Someone should ask Hipkins to detail Davidson’s achievements in her portfolio.
  
  By all accounts, she’s notable for her inactivity.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:31pm
- Prince
  
  Why is it acceptable to tell an obvious lie (that it is white men who are violent), but unacceptable to tell the truth (that it is Maori men who cause most of the violence in NZ) ?
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:02pm
Ghost

Rand Paul staffer stabbed in the head and torso in broad daylight attack: reports
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March 28, 2023 1:14pm
Jack5

Is Labour privatising the TAB?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/486848/tab-to-come-under-control-of-british-betting-giant-entain
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March 28, 2023 1:18pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It will be interesting to see who gets the Top jobs in the new partnership.
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:05pm
- pdm
  
  Jack – I thought the TAB had been flicked off to the Aussies under Winstons watch 2017-2020.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:39pm
  - Jack5
    
    The TAB is State owned. The TAB says on its web site:
    
    TAB New Zealand (TAB NZ) is a statutory body established through the Racing Industry Act 2020 which provides betting services to New Zealanders and makes returns back to New Zealand racing and sporting organisations.
    
    TAB New Zealand comes under Part 3 of the Racing Industry Act 2020. It is run by a board of seven appointed by the Government. The Act says TAB NZ cannot enter any partnership without approval of the Minister of Racing.
    
    RNZ reports the Minister for Racing, Kieran McAnulty, as saying said he wants to ensure racing is “guaranteed for the future” and he will take time before signing off the deal.
    
    “The TAB has a monopoly in New Zealand and I want to make sure that is retained,” McAnulty is reported as saying.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:18pm
CAKE FACE1

The Team of $55 Million are trying to hide. In Stuff’s latest lickspittle propaganda, the author is said to be ‘Stuff political reporters’. No one dares to put their name to this propaganda.

What hurts is that I’m paying for this socialist party propaganda, through my taxes.

Mr Hipkins keeps digging, and then he digs some more.

Still, we wait for a proper apology.

Mr Hipkins must act, and fire the racist. Anything less is reprehensible.
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March 28, 2023 1:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From Stop Co-Governance yesterday.

One New Zealand Foundation Inc. One New Zealand Foundation Inc. on March 28, 2023 at 2:50 am

It’s obvious the Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence, Marama Davidson knows little of her “brown cis men” (tangata Maori ancestors) when she proudly declared on camera: “I am the prevention [of] violence Minister, and I know who causes violence in the world, and it’s white cis men.”
Between 1820 and 1840 her “brown cis men” (Ancestors, Hongi Hika, Te Wherowhero and Te Rauparaha) slaughtered over half the of her tangata Maori ancestors (men, women and children) for the fun of it and the feats that followed. The Taranaki invaded the Chatham Island in 1835 and slaughtered thousands of the Moriori, or farmed them “like swine” into virtual extinction and she’s got the bloody cheek to say “white sic men” cause the violence!
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March 28, 2023 1:38pm
freemark

I hope the Police get plenty of complaints over their cowardly (or corrupt) inaction & lack of protection for women & the elderly.
https://complaints.ipca.govt.nz/195
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March 28, 2023 1:48pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  I have mine in.
  
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  March 28, 2023 1:59pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor.

https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/corrupt-auckland-council-dont-realise-they-just-blew-on-a-dandilion/

This is what the movement is up against.
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Blog-post-28323-1.pdf

Claudia Wyss [email protected]
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/11-47-email-from-Claudia-Wyess.pdf
Reply:
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Letter-to-Auckland-City-Council.pdf

Council Termination:
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/20230327-Mt-Eden-Community-Hall-J-Batchelor.pdf

So Free Speech is cancelled by our wonderful Council.

More to follow on the next post.
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March 28, 2023 1:53pm
rjay

Another Green policy success -encouraging turning productive farmland into erosion ready estates. Hone Harawira and Murray McCully in partnership to ruin the East Coast.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/east-coast-farm-collapses-after-maori-carbon-group-takes-over
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March 28, 2023 1:58pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  The C-Farming scambo is happening all along the East Coast…
  
  Tax-funded destruction of NZ’s land and waterways.
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:09pm
  - Matt Long
    
    The former owner got 10 times his investment, you’ve got to believe he loves carbon farming.
    Thanks Uncle Shane said a friend who sold marginal land he’d only just bought for a fat profit in Northland.
    
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    March 28, 2023 6:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Stop Co-Governance. Julian Batchelor
There ate two posts today.

Letter from Tane Tupuna:
https://www.stopcogovernance.kiwi/blog/we-are-negotiations-to-secure-large-amazing-venue-for-regular-auckland-meetings/

Seems there is no venue for tonight.
The Council blew on a dandelion – ever herd of Karma?

Stop Co-Governance is going after those who cancel.
Free Speech Union Is Going After Hall Owners Who Cancel
The Free Speech Union have joined in to fight for us against Hall owners who cancel on his if the hall is a publicly owned facility. They are starting with the Cambridge Town Hall, but others will follow.

The Free Speech Union is a powerful organisation with many members. They have a stable of lawyers ready to act on our behalf. You don’t want to mess with the Free Speech Union.
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March 28, 2023 1:59pm
- Mike
  
  While ‘a stable of lawyers’ might have some horse sense, other collective nouns might be more suitable.
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:04pm
Swifty

This is the trouble when you have Councils funding long lists of ‘nice to haves’ – when financial trouble strikes you’ve got even more special interests coming against you when you attempt to economise:

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300840624/20000-people-sign-to-protect-citizens-advice-bureau-from-auckland-council-budget-cuts

Who represents the elderly retired, sick or otherwise fixed income people who’s rates have to fund it all? The folk who have lost jobs because of Covid or the recession? Those already struggling?

Several years ago Goff had a very half-hearted attempt to reduce Council expenditure. He launched a cost reduction investigation exercise across Council which cost, from memory, $1M and identified about half that in savings.

All the big public money spenders rejoiced!

Boy has that cost us now. What a pity a few more meaningful savings weren’t identified then, then the cuts might not have to have been so severe now.

The past week or two has seen a rolling series of special interest groups in our media pleading for their interests to be protected from council budget cuts. Libraries, CAB, the film industry, the arts, the events industry, council unemployment services and various other social services etc etc.

Many of them I argue shouldn’t even be local government responsibilities, they should be central government responsibilities or the responsibility of the private sector and all of this while our core council infrastructure burns through underinvestment.

But no, the public purse has become the life blood for far too many interests who are now wailing and stamping their feet when it is threatened.
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March 28, 2023 2:03pm
Its only I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHmJL-a5tM

NZ is in the shitter.
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March 28, 2023 2:16pm
Maggie Pie

HERE WE GO 😀 😀 😀

The transgender Colombian refugee Squirter’s best mate in the blue dress…..rubbing his breasts and exposing his undies to the ladies at the pro-women’s rally on Saturday.

https://twitter.com/Marmyboi/status/1640346629634162691

And O.M.G….. read the comments!
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March 28, 2023 2:18pm
- MCōs
  
  Shock Horror
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:45pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You’d be a ‘boob-man’ wouldn’t ya Cossie? 😛
    
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    March 28, 2023 3:01pm
- NothingLeft
  
  Paraphilias are persistent and recurrent sexual interests, urges, fantasies, or behaviors of marked intensity involving objects, activities, or even situations that are atypical in nature.
  
  Autogynephilia is defined as a male’s propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female. It is the paraphilia that is theorized to underlie transvestism and some forms of male-to-female (MtF) transsexualism
  
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  March 28, 2023 2:50pm
MCōs

It can be brutal for kids in Nebraska
“A 13-year-old who was burned with caustic chemicals while working for Packers Sanitation Services in Nebraska told investigators the accident occurred during a shift that lasted from 11 p.m. to 5 or 7 a.m., a direct violation of multiple federal laws.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/opinion/editorials/arkansas-child-labor.html
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March 28, 2023 2:43pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Have you looked into the “conditions” for kids in Africa mining for cobalt for all those “planet saving” electric cars?
  We’re heading back to the dark ages. It’s all down to liberal left ideological madness. It needs to be stopped.
  
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  March 28, 2023 3:29pm
mogg

Posie Parker to organise a demo outside NZ House on TheStrand in Central London.

https://youtu.be/PmKLaQGwJGI

Will this be reported here on MSM.
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March 28, 2023 2:44pm
- MCōs
  
  Bound to be if it sell newspapers
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:54pm
  - Jack5
    
    Our newspapers have no more worry about revenue from readers than Pravda and Izvestia had in Stalin’s day.
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:03pm
Maggie Pie

I see where ‘Te Kahui Tika Tangata Human Rights Commission’ has confirmed they’ve received numerous complaints about the comments made by Marama Davidson in relation to… “white cis men”

“Meng. Are you there Meng? Meng! Wake up Meng! It’s for you”
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March 28, 2023 2:55pm
Muzza M

Having read the first 100 comments on this thread, I need to say something. Luxon, Seymour, those people who behaved like a pack of ferals on Saturday are never going to vote for you. Grow some balls, call them out for the thugs they are. You will lose no votes and may even gain some. Goodbye New Zealand, I am out of here.
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March 28, 2023 3:34pm
pdm

Watched Question Time today and must say Luxon was very disappointing. He let Hipkins have a free ride with tame Education questions.

Christopher Luxon where is your mongrel – you could have had Chippy by the short and curlies today – he was there for th taking.

Watch and Listen to Hosking and Seymour and for goodness sake – LEARN!!!!
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March 28, 2023 3:37pm
- thirteenstars
  
  Luxon made his way to the top of one of the wokest companies in NZ, which means in the world, Air NZ, and do you think he got there by not towing the line? Because if you don’t tow the line in a woke corporate you don’t go far.
  
  It’s bred into him. All that ESG bullshit. In a way, you can’t blame someone who’s thus steeped in the bullshit. It’s who they are.
  
  What you have to do is say, no thanks–next! Oh, shit, that’s Nicola Willis.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:15pm
  - H. Upmann
    
    Stars old chap: the phrase is “toeing the line”……the toes are on the start line. You are not going to tow the line anywhere.
    Otherwise, good comment.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:22pm
- Burtland
  
  in the house today
  
  Marama Davidson was under fire for saying that “it is white cis men who cause violence in the world”.
  
  When asked whether she agreed the statement was factually incorrect, Davidson offered no answer one way or the other.
  
  Instead, she said violence was “enabled by socially accepted hierarchies of power, that include sexism, racism towards minority communities, colonisation, ableism, ageism, homophobia, transphobia, and classism – and I am really clear about those drivers of violence”.
  
  … textbook marxism – she really needs to go
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/watch-live-chris-hipkins-and-christopher-luxon-clash-in-parliament-on-education-white-cis-men-apology/EXBFFEQPIVGSBM5NBNOITCQQRI/
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:22pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

20 CONFIRMED INCIDENTS AND OPERATIONS: THE DOZENS OF FEDS, FBI AGENTS AND STATE OPERATIVES WHO INFILTRATED THE TRUMP CROWDS ON JANUARY 6TH.

https://billingsreport.com/20-confirmed-incidents-and-operations-the-dozens-of-feds-fbi-agents-and-state-operatives-who-infiltrated-the-trump-crowds-on-january-6th/
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March 28, 2023 3:57pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  There are some missing. Only 9, actually 8 because 5 is missing. It says 20.
  Censored? By who?
  Maybe NZ are banning certain things. Remember Batman and all of my extreme right wing websites he kept on rabbiting about?
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:08pm
Maggie Pie

CAPTION COMPETITION….

Best entry WINS night out with Batman 😀

https://twitter.com/PatriotNz2022/status/1640258265518067712
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March 28, 2023 4:18pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie… ‘birds of a feather’. You can have the prize.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:35pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  “Keep your hands away from me, there are cameras”
  
  I donate my prize to Maggie Pie.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:38pm
- Ghost
  
  Remuera Welcomes their new home owners.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:43pm
- blue collar
  
  I’ll just check your prostate Shaneel …..
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:47pm
- JamesP
  
  Second prize is two nights?
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:57pm
Alan Wilkinson

Anyone read that fool Foon’s paywalled column in the Herald?
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March 28, 2023 4:24pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I’d love to Al but can’t find the link…..can u assist further?
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:05pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Oops, Hunt’s I hear.
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:26pm
CAKE FACE1

Wow.

I only got around to watching the video from newshub, where they accused Posie Parker of making a white supremacist gesture. I cannot think of more serious allegation that you could make against someone.

The gesture was blurred out by newshub. It was later claimed to be the ‘okay’ gesture.

Now, the media showed the ‘okay’ gesture footage unblurred. Posie Parker was doing up her zip.

Anyone who has read my posts knows what I think of the Team of $55 million, but this is surely a new low.

There needs to be consequences for our lickspittle media. Newshub has crossed a line for me.

I cannot really believe what has happened in the past two years in New Zealand. It all seems like a bad dream.

How did we get to this?
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March 28, 2023 4:26pm
- Swifty
  
  That was a total disgrace.
  
  To me it borders on criminality. It was a total invention and to slur and defame someone with one of the worst possible labels you can put on someone – that of being a Nazi.
  
  The trouble is the word has lost all meaning now and is thrown around by bad people like confetti. It’s become ubiquitous and we just roll our eyes and move on, when in fact there should be serious repercussions for people who do this without any factual basis to back it up.
  
  People should lose their jobs over that and the company severely punished by the BSA, so they and others don’t even contemplate doing it again, but I won’t be holding my breath.
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:09pm
  - Cinematic
    
    One of, if not the lowest point, in the history of journalism in NZ. Beyond disgraceful, certainly fraudulent.
    
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    March 28, 2023 6:54pm
    - Swifty
      
      I can’t think of many more egregious ethical breaches than what we’ve just seen.
      
      It was a total fabrication of a grossly offensive slur.
      
      Newshub has completely crossed a line and their integrity is now in the gutter.
      
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      March 28, 2023 7:55pm
  - Burtland
    
    TV3’s Amelia Wade is a gullible fool publishing that BS. You might excuse it from a teenage high school reporter but someone from the Press Gallery – FFS.
    
    The new generation all seem to be idiots.
    
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    March 28, 2023 7:56pm
Widogast Corwin

The Victorian Liberal Party has suspended one if its MPs from the caucus for 9 months – Moira Deeming.

Her crime – she attended and spoke at the Kellie Jay Keen event in Melbourne.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-28/moira-deeming-liberal-suspension/102152862
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March 28, 2023 4:31pm
- Swifty
  
  Moira has Maori ancestry, just out of interest.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:38pm
Swifty

I think it was Saturday when I wrote here that the weekend’s events were a victory for Kellie-Jay Keen.

Huge numbers of New Zealanders, and millions and millions worldwide have had their eyes opened to the intolerance, hatred, vileness and bullying from the trans lobby and their, at best, indifference to the human rights of women.

I still stand behind that observation.

I firmly believe the NZ woman and man in the street, on the whole, will be appalled at Saturday’s disgrace. We are a fair and reasonable lot and are keen to see everyone get a fair crack, get a chance to speak out on matters of concern and we have a particular distaste for bullies.

I haven’t thought this through properly yet, but I also wonder what the effect all this will have on the election come October?

I do wonder whether this will be a tipping point for a lot of New Zealanders, a catalyst for folks to say “enough is enough” and will look at Labour and Green MPs who support this cancellation and denial of women’s rights and free and fair debate quite harshly.

While they all pat themselves on their backs, toss glitter in the air and celebrate their wonderfulness – I think the trans mob and lefty politicians misread New Zealanders if they think they will come out of this looking good. They’ll look good to some but I think the majority of Kiwis have a bitter taste in their mouths this week and see the trans lobby and their enablers in a new and distasteful light.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/131620080/the-bullying-hypocrisy-unleashed-over-posie-parker

Sean Plunket interviews Brendan O’Neill over the British and international reaction:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PmKLaQGwJGI
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March 28, 2023 4:37pm
- Ghost
  
  Come election it will be long forgotten, come next week it will be wrapping on the fish n chips.
  
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  March 28, 2023 4:41pm
  - Swifty
    
    I can’t rule that out as a possibility.
    
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    March 28, 2023 5:02pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    No, I don’t think so. The trans crowd see this as a victory over a woman and will be energised by it to become even more outrageous. That’s how we got to this point and will be how they carry on. Whether the dishonest media are fuelling the fire for click-bait, or their next $55m is another thing, but it plays a big part in the division and hatred.
    
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    March 28, 2023 7:28pm
  - Jack5
    
    Another day closer to the election. It’s 28 weeks and 4 days to polling day, 14 October.
    
    Inflation, cost of living, hardship, pay disputes, strikes, will be the issue of the day.
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:57pm
Sparrow

When I started ti write this the number of blogs stood at 552. Is that a record?
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March 28, 2023 4:46pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

DANISH AUTHORITIES GIVE RUSSIAN COMPANY THAT RUNS THE NORD STREAM PIPELINE PERMISSION TO RETRIEVE MYSTERIOUS ITEM NEXT TO THE ONLY PIPELINE TO SURVIVE.
https://billingsreport.com/danish-authorities-give-russian-company-that-runs-the-nord-stream-pipeline-permission-to-retrieve-mysterious-item-next-to-the-only-pipeline-to-survive/

Of course the object will have a ‘Made in China’ ID.
I would say ‘be careful’ IMHO these things were set off remotely, possibly by satellite.
American Satellite? Joe knows the perpetrator.
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March 28, 2023 4:48pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Some memes from Valiant News. Yeah, another extreme right wing website.
https://valiantnews.com/2023/03/counting-down-this-weeks-top-10-maga-memes/
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March 28, 2023 4:58pm
Swifty

Marama Davidson proves once again that she is not a nice person by deliberately failing to apologise for her deeply racist and sexist comments:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/watch-live-chris-hipkins-and-christopher-luxon-clash-in-parliament-on-education-white-cis-men-apology/EXBFFEQPIVGSBM5NBNOITCQQRI/

She is also deeply dishonest with New Zealanders, when listing what she says are the major causes of violence in New Zealand, by not including culture as a factor.

The culture, present in some communities in NZ, which celebrates ‘warriordom’, a dog eat dog mentality, that violence is a legitimate way to settle differences or to enable robbery and theft from other New Zealanders, that life is all about ‘bitches and money’, that joining criminal gangs is perfectly acceptable and that some people are permanent victims and that excuses violence and harm caused to others.
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March 28, 2023 4:59pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Don’t interrupt your enemy when she is making a mistake.
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:29pm
CAKE FACE1

I was thinking about the feral communist rioters who assaulted Posie Parker, and where the complete lack of respect for the Bill of Rights came from. These feral lefties wouldn’t even let her speak.

Then I remembered the Covid hoax, where Cindy Ardern, Mr Hipkins etc said that our human rights were worth nothing.

Cindy et al stole our human rights for years, on a whim, for no good reason at all.

I’m certainly not saying the criminal Covid policies are to blame for the feral communists who assaulted Posie Parker.

I do suspect, however, that another cost of the criminal Covid response was to downgrade the importance of human rights in the minds of the feral left.

Cindy Ardern had the power to give and take away human rights every day for years under the Covid hoax, which she exercised with the glee of a tyrant.

Perhaps seeing rights being extinguished by Cindy without consequences has led to the feral left believing that they could continue to do this, with no negative impact for themselves?

Food for thought…
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March 28, 2023 5:05pm
Southern Raider

Just saw a post that the tomato juice thrower is at Auckland International leaving the country “for a few weeks”

Obviously NZ Police have no intention of even interviewing it let alone charging it with assault
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March 28, 2023 5:14pm
- Jack5
  
  Where can the thrower go? A refugee who was about to be deported from Hong Kong back to Colombia and now in controversy in NZ – is entry to Australia possible?
  
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  March 28, 2023 9:50pm
Swifty

The person who assaulted KJK on Saturday is scared because other New Zealanders want to kill them: that other New Zealanders want to commit ‘trans genocide’:

https://mobile.twitter.com/_K_F_P_/status/1640382268416962560/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1640382268416962560&currentTweetUser=_K_F_P_

Yep, the trans person is the victim in all this.
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March 28, 2023 5:20pm
- Ghost
  
  If death threats have been made, then people have turned this from her actions to something more serious. To those people who have made the death threats you have just made her the victim instead of the aggressor, idiots.
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:33pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yes, I agree with that.
    
    Idiots giving them ammo.
    
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    March 28, 2023 5:40pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    She needs to report these threats to the police.
    
    The police are there to protect us from threats of violence.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:12pm
    - Swifty
      
      Touché.
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:24pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The “lady” does have some unpleasant company:
  https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1640477904839614466?t=uOdzJuHm2MdAebfxsN9ikA&s=19
  
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  March 28, 2023 5:49pm
  - Ghost
    
    376 school shootings in the USA since Columbine, I think this is the first I’ve heard of that has been carried out by a transgender person
    
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    March 28, 2023 6:04pm
Chris Nisbet

Hmm, I just saw some Maori MP tell us (with a wee smirk on her face) that ‘Tane’ (i.e. Maori men) learned their violent behaviour from the colonisers.
What an odd little country we are – won’t let pro-democracy meetings take place, or let some woman speak the truth, but vote racists into parliament.
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March 28, 2023 6:17pm
- Swifty
  
  Why did pre-contact Maori feel it necessary to live in and around fortified pa?
  
  The current crop of Maori Party MPs are a joke. And an un-clever joke.
  
  Nearly every time they open their mouths they make themselves look like fools.
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:36pm
- [email protected]
  
  Unbelievable! Sure hope that the makeup of Parliament changes significantly after October.
  
  I thought that things couldn’t get worse after the Covid19 debacle. I was wrong!
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:38pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  What a turd she is. Also cutting Marama slack because she was abused as a child. Bet it wasn’t by a cis white male.
  
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  March 28, 2023 7:24pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    By an older relation. Surely Marama doesn’t have European blood!
    
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    March 28, 2023 9:17pm
kiwikidsnz

TV1 had a piece/hit job on Julian Batchelor Stop Co governance tonight. Part of it was the presenter stating as misinformation his claim that the PIJF requires media to abide by the Govt view on the ToW.
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March 28, 2023 6:24pm
- kiwikidsnz
  
  …and on TV3 they had Nationals co government Trojan horse Chris Finlayson claiming it al co managing, nothing to see here.
  
  Both channels had an alternative spokesperson from the “Aotearoa Liberation ….?”
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:39pm
- Burtland
  
  Findlayson seems to be trying to gaslight the sheeple by saying that they’ve got it wrong thinking its co-government, when whats intended is co-governance.
  
  Is he still on Ngai Tahu’s payroll ?
  
  For a lawyer you would think he would know what conflict of interest was.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:11pm
Southern Raider

Māori Party now claiming that Māori men who beat women learnt it from Colonialists

Good to see we can add teacher our kids that all Māori pre Europeans were peace loving pacifists
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March 28, 2023 6:33pm
Tony Stuart

Stuart Nash is about to be sacked as a Minister. I suspect he’ll probably retire from Parliament at the election now. That’s great news for Katie Nimon, and for Napier.
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March 28, 2023 6:37pm
- Ghost
  
  Hipkins screed up giving him a final chance, he looked weak. Having this come up just shows how weak hipkins is.
  
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  March 28, 2023 6:46pm
  - pdm
    
    Ghost – Nash had TWO final warnings.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:45pm
- Ghost
  
  Hipkins about to go live
  
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/livestream-chris-hipkins-speaks-to-media-after-allegations-stuart-nash-shared-confidential-cabinet-discussions.html
  
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  March 28, 2023 7:01pm
- Swifty
  
  Is Nash being shafted from within Labour?
  
  Do some of his fellow caucus members want him out?
  
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  March 28, 2023 7:02pm
  - nathie
    
    Wouldn’t be surprised! Takes the heat off Hipkins’ poor handling of Marama Davidson, Hipkins looking like an idiot in MSM interviews this morning, fallout from the weekend’s left-wing counter protesters violence so now it makes Hipkins “look decisive” for the MSM to parrot.
    
    Makes one wonder if some major polls are also being conducted soon and Labour want to regain the initiative?
    
    After all, funny how two leaks against Nash came out of “nowhere” – was it an inside job?
    
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    March 28, 2023 7:26pm
    - Burtland
      
      inside job? – sort of – something STUFF has dug up
      
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      March 28, 2023 8:15pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        Dug up or dropped on them? They are the obvious conduit for the Left’s dirty tricks.
        
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        March 28, 2023 9:58pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    If his latest crime was from 2020, then some folks in Labour have been sitting on this for yonks.
    
    Doubtless there’s little files for each Labour MP… waiting to be leaked to a tame journo when a power play develops.
    
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    March 28, 2023 8:24pm
NothingLeft

Stuart Nash goneburger from cabinet. Gave details of cabinet discussions to business associates
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March 28, 2023 6:57pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Good. Now, the disgusting racist Marama needs to be reeled in.
  
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  March 28, 2023 7:20pm
- alex Masterley
  
  I could not believe that Nash would be that stupid. But obviously I was wrong.
  Everytime I think we have reached peak stupidity some-one like Nash says “hold my beer”…
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:07pm
- rockape
  
  Diners which is even worse. Cash for influence anyone?
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:41pm
Ghost

Oh how silly were we to attack Davidson she was firing back at a conspiracy site

Damn you are weak chippy

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/03/chris-hipkins-warns-mps-to-proceed-with-caution-if-approached-by-conspiracy-sites.html
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March 28, 2023 7:53pm
- Swifty
  
  Pathetic.
  
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  March 28, 2023 8:22pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Labour: don’t talk to anyone we haven’t bought.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:00pm
  - Burtland
    
    Labour doing the limbo – how low can they go?
    
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    March 28, 2023 10:26pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  I think I just threw up in my mouth. Our media are a complete joke. Nauseating, particularly the dribble from Jenna Lynch at the end.
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:08pm
ClanMcleod

Warning for the South Island from Transpower. Due to lower than expected temperatures they said tonight – “people should put off using washing machines, dryers and dishwashers, delay charging electronic devices – including cars.

It’s gonna be great when we all have electric cars…..
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March 28, 2023 10:00pm
- Ghost
  
  Lower than expected? I saw on metservice last week the temps expected for Monday through to Wednesday, and they’re not prepared with power generation for it. Pathetic
  
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  March 28, 2023 10:28pm
  - Jack5
    
    Power problem has passed, says Transpower:
    
    https://www.transpower.co.nz/news/transpower-thanks-christchurch-residents-help-avoiding-risk-power-cuts
    
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