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Mike

Happy World Bicycle Day!
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June 3, 2024 8:01am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Let’s hope they lose their chains
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:04am
  - Mike
    
    Stope pedaling nonsense.
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:43am
  - MCōs
    
    I passed your mean spirited wishes on to my seven year old granddaughters. They love their bikes
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:48am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Lighten up, Cossie! Bikes have their place, like in kids riding areas, or on country bike paths paid for by bike riders. Or in a big pile at the scrap metal yard.
      
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      June 3, 2024 8:52am
      - Colville
        
        Wow.
        You dont think kids should ride to school???
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:11am
      - JackRabbit
        
        @Colville
        
        A far far greater percentage of children biked to school in the boomer generation than today. In my day, there were no 4WD Suvs, or even cars, taking children to school, either primary school or secondary school.
        
        We didn’t need bike lanes as we observed the single file rule instead of annoying motorists.
        
        There are some bike lanes in Christchurch that require a year of use by school children to equal a days use in my day of the same section of road.
        
        And we coped.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:45am
      - mawm
        
        JackRabbit – there is no single-file rule. The Road Code specifically states that cyclists can ride two abreast.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:29am
    - pdm
      
      I loved my Hercules Atlantic bike which I got just before I turned 12 too and still have at age 78.
      
      I just did not expect bike lanes and precedence over motor vehicle traffic when I road it. Actually a tar sealed road to ride on was a bonus in the early days in rural Central Hawkes Bay.
      
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      June 3, 2024 9:14am
      - I remember when
        
        Those unsealed single roads also taught you to breathe through your nose.
        Sand flies!
        
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        June 3, 2024 9:48am
      - MCōs
        
        My dad gave me a bike when I went to Marist Intermediate because it was too far to walk
        I would have been 8-1/2yo and I took it to Wellington when I started work, but it was hopeless because it only had one gear.
        I bought a ten speed, but after Chch which was swarming with bikes Wellington was a desert in 1967.
        The bike got pinched a couple of times and after I moved to Ngaio in 1989 I bought a mountain bike that i still have
        I used to love jumping on the bike at the end of the day on a warm Wellington evening! The other days weren’t bad either. One soon warmed up and the Ngaio Gorge was preferable to one of these here gymnasiums to get the heat beat up.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:14am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Hang on, she has barely got her training wheels off😊
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:46pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  On yer bike.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:31am
  - pdm
    
    Mike!!!
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:37am
    - Mike
      
      Like?
      
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      June 3, 2024 8:43am
- Red
  
  You could buck the trend with a Crown limousine used by former Prime Minister Helen Clark for sale with $1 reserve.
  
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  June 3, 2024 12:12pm
  - Paulus
    
    I would not pay $1 for Helen Clark either.
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:58pm
  - kisekiman
    
    Is it the one that she did the ton in through Mid-Canterbury on the way to the rugby? Those were the days.
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:18pm
    - MCōs
      
      From my observation that’s pretty ordinary driving across the Canterbury plains
      
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      June 3, 2024 3:37pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

I miss sitting up in bed on a public holiday with breakfast and the morning newspaper.

Breakfast remains as good as ever, but the paper is barely worth opening. Back in the day, sharing out the sections and catching up with the world was an enjoyable time.

Modern newspaper proprietors have a lot to answer for.
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June 3, 2024 8:03am
- G152
  
  The advertisers who used the print media propped up those nice big arm stretch papers.
  Now they have alternatives and we have as you stated thin tabloids and a biased media to fill it
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:16am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Churnalists today.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:32am
- Biscuit
  
  Time was, NMTB, before I discovered those ‘car’ thingies!, that I used to catch the unit into Wellington ad back for work.
  
  ‘The Dominion’ in those days needed the half hour in question to fully read. And, hell, there was just one crossword and NO quiz to pad things out.
  
  Same with ‘The Evening Post’ on the way home.
  
  Now?
  
  Every page of ‘The Dominion Post’ is 40, 40 or 60% covered with ads and the world-class journalism that they keep bragging about is squeezed in between said ads.
  
  Small wonder that, catch a train these days, and there’s nary a newspaper in sight … with everyone getting their way-more-up-to-date news fix (or whatever) from their iPhones…
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:35am
  - Country Air Ian.
    
    You may be surprised(maybe not) to know there are more Android phones that Iphones.
    
    https://www.statista.com/topics/9745/smartphone-market-in-new-zealand/
    
    So maybe better to say Smartphones rather than Iphones.
    
    Biscuit, I am guessing you are an Iphone owner 🙂
    maybe even a Government or Corporate phone supplied?
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:11pm
    - Biscuit
      
      Country Air Ian – and here I was thinking Biscuit was an unusual nom-de-blog, ha – phone technology largely leaves me in its dust.
      
      The one I have was handpicked for me by my far-more-savvy nephew and certainly wasn’t supplied either by a Government or a company, heh.
      
      I shall take your prompt and use the term ‘smartphone’ in future!
      
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      June 3, 2024 7:58pm
  - mogg
    
    Yes I remember the London Underground, packed like sardines no room to move but everybody had techniques for turning the pages of their morning newspaper. Sad to see that the now Woke Evening Standard is now only printed once a week.
    Reminds me of John Cleese cutting out little holes in the middle of the pages so that he could look at the person sitting opposite.
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:49pm
- Mike
  
  I miss the good old days before the internet too.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:44am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Really? How did you fill up your day, back then?
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:56am
    - MCōs
      
      I’d bung another room on the house or pull out a wall in the days when compliance was much cheaper and I could legally do most of the work myself
      I helped with some work on my daughter’s house recently and couldn’t believe how much she had to pay the council.
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:21am
    - JimBobJoe
      
      Trolling was a lot more risky before the internet… physical chastisement i.e. punch on the snout, was always a possibility.
      
      Mikey loves the fact he can troll without risk nowadays…
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:33am
    - Mike
      
      Reading the newspapers and writing letters to the editors.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:11am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Ha! – why does that not surprise me?
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:40pm
- MCōs
  
  I detest eating meals in bed
  Reminds me of hospital
  Throughout my life our family has always eaten all our meals together at the dining table when we’re at home
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:03am
- PurplePen
  
  I’ve never been able to do breakfast in bed comfortably .. amongst other issues I always end up sharing the sheets with toast crumbs. Very uncomfortable.
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:42pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/culture/350298652/rupert-murdoch-93-ties-knot-fifth-time

When advised by his doctor that at his age any strenuous marital activity could be fatal Murdoch replied “Well, then I would have to find another wife”.
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June 3, 2024 8:05am
- fredonas
  
  Here’s hoping the melting candle dies in the saddle like Nelson Rockefeller 👍
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:39am
- MCōs
  
  Who is his new wife https://x.com/alecluhn/status/1797317667784728593?s=46&t=XZLqGbhN-xeYzprhTaktsg
  
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  June 3, 2024 11:48am
Bridgenag

Sunday Strip: The Winning Hand –
A republic if you can keep it.

https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/sunday-strip-the-winning-hand?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 3, 2024 8:07am
Bridgenag

Smash the WHO!
Important public service announcement from Thomas Binder, MD

https://open.substack.com/pub/metatron/p/smash-the-who?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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June 3, 2024 8:08am
Simon

Crooked dirty Maori party. Someone from National better give them a hug.
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June 3, 2024 8:09am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Newtown & Berhampore are suffering under a new resident parking permit scheme. Key features include:

* a maximum of two permits per household
* It’s electronic, so you can be tracked
* Valid for one year; there’s no guarantee for future years
* $195 pa
* ATVs & quad bikes need not apply
* Vehicles must be registered to the address
* Houses with no off street parking get 50 free day vouchers for visitors, tradies etc (25 if you have off street parking). You can buy more at $18 ea.

This is a massive overreach by WCC.

* Who are they to say that households should only have two cars? Have they not heard of the boomerang effect, where adult kids move back home with Mum & Dad to save money? How about flats?
* The fees are the thin end of the wedge. Watch them jump in future years.
* Bad households will be threatened with reductions in day vouchers. If prowling cats & the wind scatter your neighbour’s rubbish across your street frontage, your parking credit score will be reduced. Think it won’t happen? You haven’t been paying attention.
* The policy favours those who bike everywhere, against those who like, want or need to drive. It will inevitably lead to a decrease in property values.

Some would argue that it’s necessary in Newtown, due to parking pressure around the hospital. Maybe there’s an argument there, (though if the hospital is the problem then perhaps Health NZ should build a parking building) but Berhampore is well away from the hospital. Now the same scheme is being proposed for Wadestown, on the other side of town.

Essentially, the Council are removing parking by adding cycleways, then dealing with the problems arising from fewer carparks by restricting residents in neighbouring streets and charging them for the privilege. It’s unconscionable.
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June 3, 2024 8:14am
- Inandout
  
  NM, just move out of Wellington and leave that sorry city to the brain dead.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:50am
- thirteenstars
  
  Remember the Marxist female masquerading as a human being, sneering from its lair following the Hamas butchery of Oct. 7: well, what did you think decolonisation was going to look like?
  
  Well, what did you think sustainability and Net Zero was going to look like?
  
  You can’t placate it or negotiate with it. It’s a monster that’s designed to destroy you and your wicked lifestyle. It dies or you do.
  
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  June 3, 2024 11:00am
- mawm
  
  NMTB – Roads are constructed to allow for the passage of vehicles, not as parking lots.
  
  In its war on motorists the Auckland City Council no longer requires a certain amount of off-street parking for newly constructed housing. This is going to be fun when all new ICE vehicles are banned.
  
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  June 3, 2024 11:43am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    I think you’re missing the point, mawm. I’m not the one advocating that sections of the road should be shut off for the permanent use by a very small minority of travellers.
    
    Rather, I’m advocating that everyone should be able to access all parts of the public highway on an equal basis. If cyclists want to park their bikes by the side of the road, they should go for it, I say.
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:47pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    No parking. Dangerous, unreliable, inconvenient and spotty public transport (not to mention expensive if lefties build/run it). Eventually as all this stupid far-left crap is piled on, the public will explode with rage.
    
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    June 3, 2024 6:05pm
- wsk12345
  
  How does that compare with Melbourne, Oriental Bay andThorndon? I think they have resident permits right? Same cost and restrictions?
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:17pm
kiwikidsnz

Oz’s Juice media Honest Govt ad “Democracy” . Definitely NSFW.

https://youtu.be/QCphS4_Rp3w?feature=shared
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June 3, 2024 8:17am
G152

It would appear that hamas is finally getting the message.
Looking for an agreement, a cease fire anything.
Even aljazeera that bastion of hamas propoganda has gotten the message and has actually reported on other civil wars in Africa and elsewhere…
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June 3, 2024 8:20am
- JimBobJoe
  
  perfect time to not stop then isnt it. They only want a ceasefire to recruit new jihadis and rebuild weapon stocks.
  
  Finish them now while you have a window of opportunity is my advice to the IDF
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:39am
  - MCōs
    
    Hamas may or may not be defeated, whatever that means.
    The hatred for Israel is only increasing among the residents of Gaza with each home destroyed and family member killed
    It stands to reason
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:06pm
    - Geri Sjovik
      
      Does it really stand to reason?
      
      Maybe those that have a desire to just get on with their lives might appreciate hamas being obliterated.
      
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      June 3, 2024 5:38pm
      - Jake Dee
        
        Oh Please! 7+ months of war, 30 – 40 thousand killed, infrastructure totally wrecked, >50% of housing destroyed and all to remove a government that Israel not only helped to create but actually funded?
        What sort of potential positive outcomes could possibly compensate for that in the eyes of the Palestinian people?
        
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        June 3, 2024 8:02pm
- mogg
  
  IDF are not stupid, they will hunt down every last one of them and kill them like the vermin they really are.
  
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  June 3, 2024 1:54pm
  - MCōs
    
    I think Hitler might have said (or screamed) something along those lines too
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:11pm
  - Jake Dee
    
    The IDF are plenty stupid. If they were clever, they wouldn’t be in this situation.
    They are actually paying to wreck and kill in 2024 that which they paid to build and feed in 2023.
    Not smart.
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:05pm
- Paulus
  
  No way Hamas will deliver Hostages as their Arab and Palestinian friends would call them cowards, and that it was a loss to Allah.
  Total cease fire, a load of Hams bullshit.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:03pm
  - AitchW
    
    Not to mention the intelligence any live hostages might have learned while captive. I can’t see Hamas returning any live hostages.
    Mossad will be very busy for a while regardless of the outcome. The heads of Hamas should be very afraid.
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:11pm
Yvette

Rawiri Waititi

Te Pāti Māori co-leader Rawiri Waititi called the Coalition a “Pākehā Government”.
Te Pāti Māori has issued a Declaration of Political Independence … beginning the process to establish its own Māori Parliament.

In remaining paid by the New Zealand Parliament, is Rawiri Waititi, not already on the wrong side of history – the history he himself thinks he is creating?
___________

There is broad consensus across the biological and social sciences that race is a social construct, not an accurate representation of human genetic variation. Humans are remarkably genetically similar, sharing approximately 99.6%-99.9% of their genetic code with one another.

Is it racist to concentrate attention on 0.1 percent of a person’s DNA
– either ’for’ or ‘against’ that 0.1 percent?
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• Focussed entirely on mokopuna livelihood

Mokopuna – children – who have probably not yet been told they are different
– who have not yet been exceptionalised, otherised, radicalised, in fact: colonised, by Rawiri Waititi and his ilk

To turn one distinguishing human attribute, memory, to regret and another distinguishing human attribute, imagination, to entitlement (want, or lack) – all divorced from reality – is not a good way to nurture mokopuna.
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June 3, 2024 8:22am
- Swifty
  
  There is more human genetic diversity in Africa than the rest of the human population put together.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:07am
- Jake Dee
  
  So, the broad scientific consensus is that your race and tribe does not exist. Nice way to launch your ethnic and tribal government.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:09pm
CJames

I note this morning’s cartoon in The Australian shows a hick New Zealander thanking their Immigration Minister for allowing the 501s to stay in Oz. I wonder how long before that policy changes?
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June 3, 2024 8:23am
- peterwn
  
  Interesting how the rest of the world views New Zealand as one big sheep station.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:51am
  - kisekiman
    
    They are only half wrong.
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:25pm
- kowtow
  
  Herald cartoon blaming online shopping for demise of Smith and C .
  
  Nothing about council and central govt policies turning city centres in third world shit holes.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:27am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Statistics NZ are also closing their office in central Auckland. Does that mean they are being replaced with online shopping too?
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:26am
    - Mike
      
      Replaced by working from home. CBDs might have had their day.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:15am
      - Red
        
        Sydney CBD is booming without the mainly Maori (80%) Homeless and the Wethouses. The area described as “super prime”, being the Pitt Street mall precinct, is boasting zero vacancy after reaching 8 per cent last year.
        
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        June 3, 2024 12:24pm
    - kowtow
      
      According to the folk at the Herald yes , and they should know all things Auckland , innit.
      
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      June 3, 2024 12:28pm
Biscuit

It appears, sniff, that various well-worthy Kiwibloggers have missed out on gongs in the latest Queens oops Kings Birthday Honours.

Shameful stuff!

Not even a Sir David Farrar.
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June 3, 2024 8:23am
- CJames
  
  No Maori knight or dame either. Another grievance for TPM?
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:25am
  - Biscuit
    
    CJames, and how many of those Maori knights or dames have told this Government ‘take our colonialist gongs back!’?
    
    ONE part of colonialism that none of them seems to want to relinquish, ha…
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:40am
    - John Loveridge
      
      Don’t forget the hats!
      
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      June 3, 2024 9:18am
      - rouppe
        
        The hats are an interesting affectation aren’t they.
        
        I first saw people wearing hats like that in Bolivia and Peru. From what I’ve read the hats indicate where the wearer is from among other things.
        Interestingly the bowler hat was introduced to Peruvian women due to a mistake made in England when bowler hats became fashionable.
        
        So how does this relate to Rawiri and Debbie? I wonder if they see it as an “indigenous” thing and are appropriating it.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:03am
      - imalwaysright
        
        They look like they get dressed in a clothing bin.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:53am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Read on…..
        
        https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/09-12-2020/from-fedoras-to-fascinators-a-history-of-maori-and-hats
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:58am
  - Mike
    
    I too was disappointed not to see Sir Winston Peters.
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:46am
    - Red
      
      Sir Winston is next cycle, foregone conclusion.
      
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      June 3, 2024 12:29pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Only when he is retired
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:49pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He won’t get anything when in parliament
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:49pm
      - Mike
        
        Didn’t stop his hero, Rob Muldoon, from grabbing two royal honors while PM.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:46pm
  - artemisia
    
    I expect they got the invite but declined due to principles.
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:18am
    - MCōs
      
      There’s been a few of those over the years
      Most notably not Sir John Key
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:29am
      - Mike
        
        Some folks are too modest to want to be called sir or dame, so generously accept the higher honor of ONZ.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:17am
      - Jethrod
        
        Unfortunately the ONZ seems to be forgotten as there is 6 vacant positions.
        The last appointment was in 2020.
        The last death of an appointee was in April this year, Jonathan Hunt.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:41am
      - CJames
        
        It isn’t surprising the ONZ positions are vacant. Remember all the Labour Party hacks appointed? Remember Tirikatene-Sullivan? They tarnished the prestige.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:56am
      - Jethrod
        
        Of the 14 remaining, I believe 10 of them are there for noble reasons.
        People like Kiri Te K, Lloyd Geering , Richie McCaw, Joy Cowley, Albert Wendt, Peter Gluckman
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:06pm
      - mogg
        
        Or sir Sid Going.
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:59pm
      - Jethrod
        
        Yes, he would be worthy.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:59pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I had to check if Lloyd Geering was still alive…
        Goodness, he is 106!!
        
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        June 3, 2024 4:14pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Winston and principles?
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:50pm
  - Country Air Ian.
    
    But a Maori Lady Road works owner got a gong.
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:16pm
- pdm
  
  Biscuit lucky we had a change of Government otherwise the awards would have been littered with Labour Pollies and people like Clint of – `Hey Clint’ – fame.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:41am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  I stopped reading the list at Theresa Gattung
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:42am
  - kevn
    
    kknz… You will have missed the rachel smalley (the lardo commenter) a TV employee.
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:35am
  - plc
    
    For services to IPOs?
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:18am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    She certainly didn’t get the gong for services to My Food Bag investors or Compatico subscribers
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:48am
  - Paulus
    
    Me too – remember the fiasco when she was Head at Telecom – and apparently was lefted.
    Has many similar friends in high places I understand.
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:07pm
  - MCōs
    
    I’d almost forgotten about her controversial time as CEO at Telecom when being a forthright woman was frowned upon this country
    Here’s an excerpt from an Age article of the time
    “She targeted the top Telecom job in her first year as a management student at Waikato University, where she stood out for her penchant to wear suits to lectures.
    Her burning ambition was scoffed at by her peers, but she proved them wrong by forging a career that saw her ranked 49th most powerful woman in business by Forbes magazine.
    Fortune magazine rated her even more highly, slotting her in at 23rd. Oft-criticised at home, Ms Gattung was highly rated overseas and often in demand as a speaker.”
    Oft-criticized at home and highly rated overseas
    Is there an echo round here somewhere?
    Lorde, Māori culture, Jacinda Ardern
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:52pm
    - Mike
      
      Tall poppy syndrome.
      
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      June 3, 2024 5:49pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Console yourself Biccie, with a Walkers shortbread, by Royal Appointment.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:55am
- Matt Long
  
  A gong from Her Magesty had mana, Charles the Third? Not sure I’d like that.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:43am
  - Mike
    
    You can always decline the honor, but you would risk the offer not being renewed by your preferred monarch.
    
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    June 3, 2024 11:19am
- leoj
  
  One can only hope that the gong deciders have suddenly realised that having a spine is part of the consideration.
  
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  June 3, 2024 3:58pm
  - Mike
    
    To my knowledge, a royal honor has never been bestowed upon an invertebrate.
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:51pm
Nukuleka

The Christchurch City Council has a policy that every new civic building will have a Maori name, no doubt ‘gifted’ by Ngai Tahu or local iwi. The problem I have with this fetish is that the gifted names remove any sense of place or function of the institution, preferring some metaphorical, aspirational, almost spiritual Maori alternative. Te Pae, Te Kaha, Turanga are all civic new builds in the city. More are in the process of being constructed.

Equally baffling is the removal of suburban names from schools, particularly in the city’s eastern suburbs. Gone are the names Aranui, Woolston, Linwood, New Brighton, to be replaced by schools called Haeta, Te Waka Unua, Te Aratai and Rawhiti. It appears to be a type of ‘cleansing’ process. Remove the stigma of the suburb’s name, give the school an aspirational, mystical – but to most people meaningless- alternative and magically utopia will be achieved. All quite baffling.
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- Mike
  
  Yeah, it was because Māori names were so ‘baffling’ that the colonists were forced to use normal language.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:48am
- PeeJay
  
  Same thing is happening in Selwyn & Waimak.
  
  In Selwyn, the schools are all being slowly transitioned to Maori names first – started as English name, then English and Maori and it’ll only be a matter of time before the English names are no longer mentioned.
  
  Most ridiculous was the Selwyn Council refusing to add the English word Library, as overwhelmingly requested by the residents, to their sparkling new Library building. The reasons / excuses for not putting the word Library up beside the Maori name (not instead of the Maori name, beside it mind) ranged from preposterous to hilarious. My personal favourite was some batshit crazy councillor stating that because there was a coffee shop in the building, it clearly wasn’t a library.
  
  I think this is happening all over the country though and I suspect it’s almost too late to stop it.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:15am
  - kowtow
    
    Yep , been happening for some time now .
    
    Dunedin 2012
    
    ‘Cr Bezett said the issue was not the name, but the process by which it was decided. The public had come up with a clear favourite, and there was “a touch of arrogance” in the council simply changing it to another name.’
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/toitu-official-after-mayor-casts-vote
    
    And it’s ongoing.
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:31am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The late Dave Cull had affiliation with the greens
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:58pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    If folk do not use a name, the name is worse than useless.
    
    “Te Papa” in Wellington works. Why has it been embraced? I don’t know and that is not important.
    
    The name of the Christchurch Library has not worked. (I have forgotten it again.) Hence people in Christchurch refer to it as “the library”. Same with “the convention centre”.
    
    You can’t force people to use a language. Well you can, but it actually requires extreme force. Bursting out into Mandarin in the middle of an English language sentence will not cause the English speakers to resolve to learn Mandarin.
    
    While Maori is an official language, it remains (mostly) unknown to most people. The effect of RNZ presenters bursting into sudden Maori is no different had they done the same in Arabic. They are, literally, NOT trying to communicate with the audience. I could speculate on their motivation but it is not communication.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:31am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I’m reading an Elizabeth George novel at the moment.
      Quite a bit of the action occurs in Lucca, Italy and the author drops in a word, phrase, sentence in Italian every few pages or so (no glossary or translation provided).
      
      I’m finding it incredibly disconcerting and for the first time, I’m not enjoying her writing.
      I’ve read about 10 of her novels and her non-fiction book on Writing and have always admired her writing style.
      
      But for a non-Italian reader, I think the technique of interposing Italian frequently into an English text is a real turn-off…. perhaps it’s not for multi-lingualists.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:19am
      - Mike
        
        I had a similar experience with a Sebastian Faulks novel set in Paris. Of course, many older English novelists assumed their readers would be familiar with French and Latin.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:23am
      - Bridgenag
        
        No They rely on you using Kindle
        
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        June 3, 2024 12:46pm
      - Hollyfield
        
        Elizabeth George is my favourite current day author. If it’s the book I’m thinking of, and it’s some years since I read it, a London detective has visited Italy to help a friend. The detective is very unlikely to know any Italian – perhaps the use of Italian words is to demonstrate that the detective is excluded from some knowledge because she doesn’t understand the language. In that context maybe it doesn’t detract from the book when the reader also doesn’t understand the language, as we are in the same situation as the main character.
        
        I just don’t bother reading the bits I can’t understand, much like I do when reading anything written in New Zealand. If the writer wants to exclude me from being able to understand what they’ve written, then I don’t feel a need to read it.
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:44pm
    - Jethrod
      
      I think the name Te Papa has acceptance because it is concise and unique at the time of naming.
      I worked at a place in Auckland that had the name Te Papa. But the overlords at the time decided after about 10 years of being known as that , changed it’s name to Penrose. There was hell to pay by the workers, wanting to maintain the name, but to no avail. Still called Penrose Mill.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:53am
      - MCōs
        
        One Tree Hill College used to be called Penrose High School
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:12pm
    - Dougal10
      
      Papa is a globally recognized word, so “The grandad ” was always going to work for a museum .
      
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      June 3, 2024 6:05pm
    - Jake Dee
      
      Their motivation is that it’s a status marker.
      
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      June 3, 2024 8:13pm
    - wsk12345
      
      I think it’s because the naming of te papa was prior to the Meaningless Maori words being used for every new building. Ie when they weren’t ramming it down our throats, people didn’t mind it.
      
      Also there are no gifts without Kona and I think many of us resent paying for these stupid names.
      
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      June 3, 2024 8:25pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Haven’t seen one school name change in leftie Dunedin, in fact two schools that have changed names was Macandrew Intermediate to Bathgate School, and Cavershsm primary to Parkside school
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:54pm
    - Taieri
      
      Kavanagh College is now called Trinity Catholic College.
      
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      June 3, 2024 2:43pm
      - Mike
        
        Yes, it’s preferable to name a school after a myth rather than a real-life criminal.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:55pm
      - Taieri
        
        a real-life criminal.
        ———
        
        Bishop Kavanagh was not a criminal. He’s a product of his times and standards prevalent in those times.
        I had a privilege of knowing him.
        
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        June 3, 2024 6:30pm
      - Mike
        
        I’d like to think his shameful covering for sexual predators would be adequately punished if it happened today.
        
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        June 3, 2024 7:04pm
- John Loveridge
  
  Meanwhile the city’s roads and footpaths continue to crumble while our rates rise astronomically, and the education our children receive is shit.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:22am
  - kowtow
    
    Prioridies .
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:32am
  - MCōs
    
    Education doesn’t come out of rates, whereas infrastructure does and is crumbling everywhere, particularly underground because it has been neglected by previous councils who didn’t want to put up the rates.
    Bangkok has solved the problem of maintaining a sewerage system. There is none.
    Everyone has a septic tank.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:38am
- lifesgood
  
  How many schools did Maori have before Europeans arrived? This is absolutely insulting to the wonderful educational system brought here by the settlers. Who are these clowns on Chch council? No doubt they have unelected Maori councillors yapping in their ears.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:22am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Maori in the early colonial period were desperate for European education. It’s appalling how modern Maoris disrespect the wishes of their ancestors.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:00am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes, my great grandmother ran a school at Ramarama south of Auckland in the 1860’s (I think) The local Maori sent there kids there most enthusiastically so their children could be fluent in the language, and learn the pakeha way – the three ‘R’s, basic economics, knitting, cooking etc.
      
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      June 3, 2024 3:26pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  Then there is the Transmission Gully motorway.
  
  “Te Aranui o Te Rangihaeata” 😳 😳
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:46am
  - lifesgood
    
    Yeah, but who would ever call it that. It will always be Transmission Gully.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:25am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yet everyone I know calls it TG, a win for the NZers
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:59pm
  - CJames
    
    Like many other renamed facilities, the “gifted” name doesn’t stick. This is despite all the signs and official promotion. I think the exception is just Te Papa and even that is a shortening of the Maori name. It is no different for stadiums where the sponsor’s name gets lost in everyday discussions.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:27am
    - Mike
      
      Pataka and Te Rauparaha arena in Porirua seem well known. There will be many other examples.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:37am
      - CJames
        
        I have to say that depite having lived there for ten years a while ago and still an occasional visitor, I know what either of those two places are.
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:53am
      - mogg
        
        Lived in Paremata for 20yrs and don’t know either.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:08pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Pataka, meaning storehouse, is the art gallery; not inaccurate but rather generic – isn’t every art gallery, museum & library a storehouse?
        
        Te Rauparaha, for the pool & Rec Centre, gets up my nose. He was a genocidal psychopath; his idea of recreation was mass murder. He wasn’t even a local, hailing from Kawhia. His presence in Kapiti arose from subjugating the locals.
        
        I’m going full Godwin here: it’s like the Czechs naming the local pool after Reinhard Heydrich.
        
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        June 3, 2024 3:00pm
      - PurplePen
        
        I find use of the name Te Rauparaha odd. He was an evil chap – enslaved many, slaughtered and raped many, not on his own mind you. Council’s have changed street names and removed statues of white people for much less evil deeds as of late.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:54pm
      - Mike
        
        It’s just like French people naming things after Napoleon or English people naming things after Cromwell.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:59pm
      - greybeard
        
        Have you heard the new pronunciation for “Te Rauparaha Arena” ?
        Apparently someone has decided that it should be “Te Rau-PARAHA” arena.
        “Paraha” being the the important bit.
        Well, according to some female NewstalkZB traffic announcer , anyway.
        The same one who has on more than one occasion referred to the “Mt. VictoRIA tunnel”.
        Not the “Mt. VicTORia” tunnel.
        
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        June 3, 2024 6:33pm
  - MCōs
    
    Transmission Gully is named after some long gone power lines
    Te Aranui o Te Rangihaeata translates as The Great Path of Te Rangihaeata
    I moved to Wellington in 1967 and sold my last house there in 2013 and throughout that time Transmission Gully referred to some mythical road out of the capital bypassing the congested existing main highway that the Yanks were going to build during WWII clear through to Auckland
    Inasmuch as motorways are just a means of getting from A to B it’s just a section of SH1 and from my experience a pretty rough one at that.
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:34pm
- Paulus
  
  Yes, Thanks Dame Jacinda.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:08pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Climate crisis???

The new right leaning coalition has found good savings in troughing bureaucracies and flag waving green clubs. Amazing how fast these things breed:

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/06/nz-government-accused-of-war-on-the-nature-as-it-cuts-100m-environmental-spending/
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June 3, 2024 8:37am
- Benedict Yu
  
  All those programmes were just abysmal rubbish.
  
  “MBIE’s Circular Economy and Bioeconomy Strategy” 😳 😳 😳
  
  If, as they say they do, the government wants to reduce emissions, the most efficient way is the ETS. Of course that will mean a relentless increase in the carbon price with a relentless increase in petrol, gas and coal prices. And in everything that depends on those for inputs.
  
  To repeat my opinion yet again 😅, the government might get away with not facing up to the costs of the Paris Accord this term of government. Not in a second term, when the commitment to “net zero” will face the real world.
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:56am
  - I remember when
    
    The real test for the Paris Accord will be when a few cost ‘blow-outs’ start affecting people’s living standards in influential countries.
    Another possible problem will be if the masses start to ask experts to show examples of policies that have achieved proven results.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:29am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      It has already happened in Germany. Australia rapidly heading that way as it plans to shut down its coal fired power stations.
      
      What will really send Australians over the edge is rolling blackouts in summer. Unlike New Zealand their peak is in summer. Sorry I just can’t see wind farms and solar powering 10s of millions of air conditioners in a hot Australian summer.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:24am
      - Mike
        
        So would you expect less Kiwis to move to Oz?
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:39am
      - Jethrod
        
        Perhaps fewer!😉
        
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        June 3, 2024 12:42pm
      - david
        
        Of all days to mangle the King’s English. “fewer” please.
        
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        June 3, 2024 12:58pm
      - Mike
        
        Sorry. NZers moving to Oz are lesser Kiwis, of course, but hopefully will be fewer in number in future.
        
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        June 3, 2024 6:02pm
  - jkt
    
    Benedict:
    
    I agree that it is good to see that the government cuts unproductive projects.
    
    We are already paying taxes every single day to keep the piper at bay.
    
    So, in your opinion, what should the government do?
    
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    June 3, 2024 12:09pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      What should government do?
      
      Easy.
      
      Repeal the Zero Carbon Act. Abolish the Climate Change Commission.
      
      Issue a discussion paper.
      
      Set out scenarios that involve successively more severe cuts in emissions.
      
      Explain the impacts on..
      
      – the climate. This impact is literally zero. You would think everyone would understand this but not so.
      
      – New Zealand International relations
      
      – GDP growth and prosperity for the next 30 years
      
      – private costs
      
      – social costs
      
      – social benefits.
      
      – fiscal costs from paying developing countries for carbon credits
      
      The discussion document should assume zero contribution from agriculture. That is a pipe dream.
      
      …. Then make a choice. There has never been an honest presentation of the costs of climate change policies.
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:09pm
      - mogg
        
        If we are going net zero we will have less income from exporting, we will be an impoverished country by comparison. Politicians should tell us which services they are going to cut. Will it be health, education, police, infrastructure, benefits.
        They should let us know so that we can vote accordingly.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:20pm
      - jkt
        
        Thanks, BY.
        If the impact on climate “is literally zero”, then your plan is beyond stupid.
        Your plan sounds like the plan that we have developed over the last 24 years.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:22pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Politicians do not like to talk about the costs of climate change mitigation. Indeed apart from David Seymour, I cannot recall any New Zealand politician who has done so.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:34pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “If the impact on climate “is literally zero”, then your plan is beyond stupid.”
        
        So what is your plan?
        
        Withdraw from the UNFCCC? No, New Zealand is not going to be the only nation on earth to withdraw.
        
        Withdraw from the Paris Accord? Again, no. We are not going to join the only three countries to not ratify the Accord – Iran, Libya, and Yemen.
        
        If you have a better solution, I would genuinely like to hear it.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:35pm
      - Taieri
        
        If you have a better solution, I would genuinely like to hear it.
        —————
        
        Sit on the fence. Do only what can’t be avoided. Stop all grandiose ideas of “world leadership”.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:47pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        “Do only what can’t be avoided.”
        
        Which is what?
        
        There is no agreement in New Zealand on what that means.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:59pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        BY: “Withdraw from the UNFCCC? No, New Zealand is not going to be the only nation on earth to withdraw.”
        
        These orgs are infested with human-hating far left idiots. Cutting them adrift has to start somewhere.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:09pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Current climate NOT “unprecedented”.
        
        No proof that Co2 drives the climate. The physics of Co2 tells you it can’t anyway.
        
        Alarmism was driven from the outset by political interference in science and that continues to be the case.
        
        The developed world’s puny and reluctant efforts to cut “emissions” will be swamped by China and India’s emissions anyway (until at least 2050).
        
        Therefore stop mindlessly running after this incredibly destructive idiocy NOW.
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:36pm
      - jkt
        
        Benedict Yu:
        
        My plan is to mitigate the effects of climate change and protect humans from human stupidity.
        
        Try and plot out your plan as a mind-map. And you may well realise the futility of your exercise once you reach the conclusion that “this impact is literally (I would use practically) zero!” YOUR own conclusion! Own it!
        
        Effectively you endorse political stupidity. The difference between you and some politicians is that at least they can claim that they did not know that “this impact is literally zero.”
        
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        June 4, 2024 9:38am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump Can’t even come to NZ!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/donald-trump-s-felony-conviction-now-means-he-s-banned-from-a-host-of-countries-including-canada-and-uk/ar-BB1nptq3?
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June 3, 2024 8:39am
- pdm
  
  Thats fair Steve.
  
  Our son in law cannot go to the `good ole’ US of A because he removed a sign post and turned a few around out in rural Central Hawkes Bay when he (and his mates) were about 18.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:44am
  - Inandout
    
    pdm, the easiest way to enter the US is via the Southern Border.
    
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    June 3, 2024 8:52am
  - All_on_Red
    
    pdm-He possibly could. If it was a minor Offence it might be covered by the Clean Slate Act.
    He would still have to declare the Offence and apply for a Visa but its likely he would be let in.
    Even if not covered by the Clean Slate Act he could still apply for a Visa and see how he went.
    Removing a sign post sounds more like a youthful jape than anything serious.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:09am
    - rouppe
      
      If he’s covered by clean slate, he doesn’t have to declare it because any inquiry by the USA authorities would come back with no conviction.
      
      I think.
      
      Step 1. Find out if its been wiped under clean slate
      Step 2. Ask the embassy, or Ministry of Foreign Affairs what the procedure would be
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:15am
      - All_on_Red
        
        I had a relative go through this as we were travelling together to the US.
        The Declaration asks, ‘have you ever had a Conviction?’
        Despite being Clean Slated he did get one- so had to declare it, and then explain.
        They understood and he got a Visa but on arrival promptly got finger printed and interviewed!
        He took ages to get through too.
        Better to err on the side of caution. If they catch you its out you go.
        And don’t be like another friend, who went there touring with a Band. They discovered his Conviction for Marijuana, detained him and then deported him two days later- leaving the Band without a lead guitarist…
        They were pissed.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:51am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        No that is not correct. You need to declare it. I’m not sure what powers the authorities in the USA have to uncover it in the New Zealand records.
        
        Years ago I knew a guy who booked and paid for a holiday in the USA. He was in his 60s. He declared an offence from the 1960s. Minor cannibals possession. Was denied entry and lost a packet on the prepaid holiday. 😥
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:29am
      - Hollyfield
        
        Gosh Benedict, “cannibals possession”? I know what you meant to type, but the visual of possessing cannibals has given me a giggle this afternoon. I can see an entire Monty Python sketch on the topic.
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:48pm
  - rouppe
    
    While he may have received a conviction, did he get jail time?
    
    If not, he should be eligible under the Clean Slate legislation.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:11am
    - All_on_Red
      
      From your Link;
      ‘Travelling or living overseas
      The Clean Slate scheme does not apply outside New Zealand. When you travel to some countries you may need to give your full record. Check with the embassy or consulate of the country you want to travel to. You can get embassy contact details from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Trade.’
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:57am
      - rouppe
        
        fair enough…
        
        Just assumed if the nz justice system says no conviction then that was that
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:36pm
  - Azzy77
    
    Pays to read the question on the ESTA form….
    
    Have you ever been arrested or convicted for a crime that resulted in serious damage to property, or serious harm to another person or government authority?
    
    I don’t think moving road signs falls under either of those categories – do you could truthfully answer NO and walk in with your ESTA.
    
    Now a Canadian visa waiver that’s a little harder to work around
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:18pm
- Mike
  
  Which US convicts should be allowed to visit? Anyway, why would he come here? From reading Kiwiblog he must be aware that NZ is a ‘shithole’ country.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:51am
  - Jules
    
    That’s actually quite funny!
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:23pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  He will pardon himself when he wins.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:54am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Then there will be unbelievable rioting!
    What is it with the left and temper tantrums?
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:09am
    - Colinxy
      
      They’ve been programmed that way. The father of the New Left, Herbert Marcuse, taught them so. I quoted from Repressive Tolerance yesterday, but it boils down to anything the Left does is good, but anything the non-Left does, including thought, must be stopped.
      
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      June 3, 2024 9:15am
  - MCōs
    
    He can’t pardon himself because it’s a state case, apparently.
    The state Governor would have to do the business.
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:30am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    He can’t pardon himself from a New York conviction.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:11am
  - Dontbedaft
    
    He can’t. This was a state court hearing, and thus not pardonable ..
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:30am
    - kowtow
      
      Yep, a kangaroo court conviction which is unpardonable .
      
      He’s got a bounce in donations though so that might put a spring in his step .
      
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      June 3, 2024 12:36pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        US$2M an hour!!! In the first 24 hours lol.
        
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        June 3, 2024 3:23pm
      - MCōs
        
        Yep
        You probably sent him all the money you’ve been putting aside to give to some Kiwi whose cancer drugs aren’t going to get funded after all.
        And the bugger probably can’t even find NZ on an American world map
        https://pixers.co.nz/canvas-prints/political-world-map-91594261#acrylic-prints
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:47pm
  - mawm
    
    Chuck – he must neither pardon himself nor accept a pardon from the Biden crowd. He must have it overturned otherwise the felony conviction will remain.
    
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    June 3, 2024 11:52am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Biden is too thick to do that despite the advantages for him if Trump takes the Pardon (he won’t)
      
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      June 3, 2024 3:25pm
- bennerg
  
  No, he’ll just send a couple of nuclear subs to rattle our cage.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:53am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think the last one was the Texas. I had a lot of drinks with some of the crew down on the waterfront. Bloody nice guys. Greenpeace did not think so.
    
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    June 3, 2024 3:36pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Didn’t Ardern ban him from here shortly after she met him and found he was no so orange
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:01pm
- mogg
  
  I suspect that Trump couldn’t care less.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:22pm
Yvette

If a Maori man marries a woman of full European heritage,
is a son that they have, who then identifies as Maori, not
denying half his origins (whakapapa) every time he proclaims
or acts on his Maoriness only, and has that son not inversely
colonised himself – eh, John?
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June 3, 2024 8:57am
- MCōs
  
  I heard someone from up around Ruatoria talk on the radio once. He said when he was growing up 80% of the kids were Māori and the other 20% thought they were
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:39am
- Chuck Bird
  
  That is no longer possible as there are no full blooded Maori.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:07am
  - I remember when
    
    So Chuck was that – 20% were Maori and the other 80% thought they were.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:14am
    - jkt
      
      They all thought they were. And that is OK! It is feelings that make the difference …. Or is it? …. Heomana Gray says he finds it hard to control his feeling of hatred towards those Maori who deny him his right to be.
      
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      June 3, 2024 12:22pm
  - Taieri
    
    there are no full blooded Maori
    ————
    
    How do we know that? Does anyone ever researched this or is it just an assumption?
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:49pm
    - Ghost
      
      How about this
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/native-affairs-newsreader-oriini-kaipara-identified-as-full-blooded-maori-via-dna-test/CBMSAZ62LPZAA6NWVPS2FXGGWQ/
      
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      June 3, 2024 2:54pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        98% noise.
        I am mixed mongrel European, but also some Hawaiian. Dunno how that happened.
        My partner is 23% Pacific – Tongan, Samoan, and Hawaiian, and she is whiter than me!
        
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        June 3, 2024 3:36pm
      - Taieri
        
        Strange but interesting, how DNA configuration can ignore or by-pass certain ancestry. Or perhaps it doesn’t and some European ancestry in this case was only nominal.
        I have done lots of genealogical research and things are not always what they appear to be. Perhaps matrilineality practiced by Jewish people is the only way to determine one’s ancestry?
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think mauri only filters through in Maori DNA….
  
  Someone like me with not a skerrik of Maori DNA is bereft of wairua (spirit/soul) and my mauri (life force) must be restricted as I don’t appear to share it with rocks and rivers.
  
  But somewhere back in a dim distant past (perhaps 7,000-10,000 years ago), I share a common human whakapaka with Maori folk.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:24am
  - bennerg
    
    Anyone who views the worth of a person by a skin colour (indicating their race eg. “person of colour”) or by any aspect of their racial background is by definition, racist.
    
    Promoting advantage for one racial group over another is racist. The simplistic minds behind many current activists seem to miss this one obvious yet essential point.
    
    You do not need to be of Maori descent to govern on their behalf. We have a good number of Pacific Islanders, and just as many people of Asian descent in New Zealand (~17%) as those claiming to be Maori, yet our governments appear to be perfectly able to manage their affairs, respectful and mindful of any issues relating to their cultures.
    
    What we need is talented and experienced leaders, not political science graduates or culture warriors, with little of no life experience, pushing their own barrow at the expense of others.
    
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    June 3, 2024 11:16am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    Apparantly Polynesians come from Taiwan.
    
    https://keelung-for-a-walk.com/culture/aboriginal-taiwanese-and-polynesians/
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:13pm
  - Paulus
    
    Maori DNA goes back to a Tribe still in SE Taiwan – even Winston agree that.
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:11pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Scotty Morrison did a doco on it, and came to the same conclusion, so the origin of Maori is Taiwan then maybe a couple of thousand years later, Hawaiki – (or Raiatea in southern Tahiti)
      
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      June 3, 2024 3:41pm
- rjay
  
  Tame Iti’s son is a regional councilor in the Bay of Plenty. His mother is Australian, he went to Auckland grammar but you wouldn’t know it from his rhetoric.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:40pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

What fresh hell is this? Some would-be rapper called “Paddy G” has invaded National Radio from talkback land. Get him off!
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June 3, 2024 8:58am
- MCōs
  
  I rang senior help line or whatever it’s called at WINZ once and was put on hold and had to listen to hip hop music
  Didn’t wait long as furious old codgers up and down the motu slammed down the receiver
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:48am
  - lifesgood
    
    What’s a motu?
    
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    June 3, 2024 1:58pm
    - Albie
      
      The land mass otherwise known as Aotearoa. Do keep up LG!
      
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      June 3, 2024 2:22pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It’s a drain.
      
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      June 3, 2024 3:49pm
    - MCōs
      
      I thought I’d slip the word in to see who was paying attention
      
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      June 3, 2024 5:49pm
cas

I started watching that doco on Sky News last night about anti Semitism in Australia but I couldn’t finish it as it was very depressing. i went to bed and read a book instead but I will finish it tonight.

It made me think that NZ is going to hell in a handcart. With all the climate change warriors, Palestinians warriors, Maori warriors, gender diversity warriors, anti-wealth and pro welfare warriors, anti-car warriors and so on, there’s not much that anyone thinks is right.
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June 3, 2024 8:58am
- MCōs
  
  Here in NZ Jewish graves are occasionally desecrated with swastikas or headstones smashed
  The Māori cemetery in Mangere Bridge was enclosed in a fence in 2020 after a spat of vandalism
  
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  June 3, 2024 12:44pm
- Albie
  
  You do get the feeling cas that there are an overwhelming number of people at the moment who, rather than having a prosperous, safe fun to live in country, would rather have an embittered, divided and poor country.
  I put this largely down to elements in our despicable media and social commentators who thrive on disharmony.
  Having said that, there are an awful lot of New Zealanders who don’t seem to be too bright and don’t put a lot of thought into their vote come election day. The 2020 result comes to mind.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:18pm
- mogg
  
  https://youtu.be/gtKa4QequLI?si=-lQfStvpAc2xGFe1
  If you want to cheer yourself up listen to anything by sen Elise Stefanik on YouTube.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:31pm
softail 1450

7 year old Christine and her 9 year old brother Paul were explaining to their mates at school how great it was that since moving into their new house they both have seperate bedrooms instead of sharing one room as they did in the old house , Christine added “ it’s really great for us but poor Mummy is still stuck in the same room as Dad” 😂😂
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June 3, 2024 9:01am
Anthony Melchett

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/national/tower-of-otara-sparks-safety-concerns-neighbour-scared-of-going-into-own-backyard/

The real question is why an immigrant gets a house at the cost of the taxpayer?
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June 3, 2024 9:05am
- Benedict Yu
  
  You think that immigrants should not be entitled to housing assistance? What else? Should their children be allowed to attend school?
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:03am
  - jkt
    
    The government sure put me through the wringer to try and make sure that I could look after myself and my family before giving me residence.
    
    It is sad that this specific immigrant fell on hard times… or did the government not do their job properly?
    
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    June 3, 2024 12:34pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      This guy is from Samoa. 500 places annually. A balot. You need a job offer in New Zealand. That’s it.
      
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      June 3, 2024 1:19pm
      - jkt
        
        Then we better get him some mental health care.
        
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        June 3, 2024 2:26pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    BY you know that NZ immigrants to Aus (with no Aus citizenship) don’t get the dole and many other “social security” type benefits? That’s the deal.
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:41pm
    - Mike
      
      I’m sorry you don’t get the dole. Hope you’re ok.
      
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      June 3, 2024 6:07pm
  - Anthony Melchett
    
    Of course immigrants shouldn’t be entitled to housing assistance.
    
    If you want your country to succeed, don’t let in free loaders. Not too difficult of a concept surely.
    
    The children can attend school because its paid for in the taxes you pay on the job you have to be allowed to be here.
    
    No money, no job, no stay.
    
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    June 3, 2024 9:13pm
- Ghost
  
  The real question is why is he not getting the mental health support it seems he needs.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:10am
  - rouppe
    
    He doesn’t need mental health support. He needs a kick in the arse and to be told to stop being an idiot.
    
    Bet you if i built a dangerous structure next to my neighbor i wouldn’t get a free pass. Why should he.
    
    There’s far too much hand wringing going on these days.
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:23am
    - Ghost
      
      The guy has built a tower because he believes a great flood is coming. He needs mental health support.
      
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      June 3, 2024 10:35am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Makes me wonder how many others have developed mental health problems because of the hoax climate change.
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:38am
      - Matt Long
        
        Most of the councils around the country are basing their plans on a great flood coming, and those who aren’t are getting hand smacks from the Office of the Auditor General.
        Who needs mental health help?
        
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        June 3, 2024 10:50am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Is that a flood-prone location?
        
        I do like the little piggies and kitty cats (that can’t be seen by the human eye).
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:25am
      - Ghost
        
        If there are piggies, he isn’t allowed those either
        
        https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/dogs-animals/keeping-other-animals/keeping-livestock-animals/Pages/check-if-you-can-keep-livestock-on-your-property.aspx
        
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        June 3, 2024 11:31am
      - Jethrod
        
        Needs to replace the bike with a twin hulled canoe.
        
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        June 3, 2024 12:54pm
      - Ghost
        
        He has two canoes on the second floor so that when the floods come he can row away….. he has also said he built similar structures in Samoa. I wonder if this is all from the 2009 tsunami
        
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        June 3, 2024 1:11pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        If he wants a rickety tower, piggies, chickens & a canoe, perhaps he’d be better off back in Samoa.
        
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        June 3, 2024 3:07pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Ghost: “The guy has built a tower because he believes a great flood is coming. He needs mental health support.”
        
        OK so all climate alarmists also need mental health support using that yardstick!
        
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        June 3, 2024 5:06pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Wonder if he has been to Talkeetna, Alaska and seen this?
    
    https://www.alaska.org/detail/dr-seuss-house
    
    I have seen this, just a bit from the train. From the top the owner can see Homer (long way away.)
    
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    June 3, 2024 3:58pm
- I remember when
  
  and great phone reception!
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:10am
Tasman devil

For many years Christchurch’s Rangi Ruru Girls’ School has been in the top three academic schools in New Zealand. A name means nothing.

It’s in Merivale, has great teachers, parents value education and is well resourced.

Meanwhile on Linwood…….
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June 3, 2024 9:56am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I agree about the school.
  
  A name means nothing until it detracts from important communication between individuals in society. Naming a new motorway “Te Aranui o Te Rangihaeata” is, literally, virtue signalling over functionality.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:07am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    the big road/track (Ara Nui) of thug and killer Rangihaeata… if I have my translation right
    
    Must have been the track he used to come over to the Hutt and kill people via – though I would have thought he would have just come over the Western Hills instead as its easier…
    
    Him and Te Rauparaha – vicious killers and ritualistic torturers.
    
    I wonder how any remnants of Ngati Ira feel about having those names attached to their old rohe?
    
    I wonder how Kai Tahu feel about Te Rauparaha Arena? Boney of the South Seas ate Kai Tahu’s Ariki after killing him slowly afterall.
    
    Surely celebrating that sort of thuggery with an arena name is not really on in the 2020’s – not to mention Te R’s brisk trade in slaves for guns!
    
    Yes, this post is disrespectful (depending on your viewpoint of course) of certain historical figures, but fair is fair many historical figures are maligned for what were normal cultural practices in their time….
    
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    June 3, 2024 10:50am
    - Mike
      
      It is named for the path Te Rangihaeta took to withdraw from Pauatahanui to Paekakariki and beyond after the 1846 battle.
      
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      June 3, 2024 11:45am
- Max Mansplain
  
  It will always be Miss Gibson’s School for Girls to me.
  
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  June 3, 2024 12:07pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This shit appeared on my Facebook.

[Mod – please don’t post links like this]

Clarke Gayford hawing crypto?
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June 3, 2024 10:00am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Sorry Mod, I saw it as a joke, satire like.
  
  [Mod – scam links aren’t safe to share]
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:26am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yep, my mistake.
    
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    June 3, 2024 12:07pm
I remember when

The “An excellent presentation” graphs on smoking/vaping yesterday didn’t really discuss the ideal result.

How many smokers/vapers are no longer doing either?

Is the Australian approach leading to a better end result than NZs?

The Smoking and Vaping by Relative Socio-Economic Disadvantage 2022 graph appears to suggest that this may be the case.
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June 3, 2024 10:04am
- Benedict Yu
  
  Good question. New Zealand seems to be creating a large cohort of young vapers who were never smokers.
  
  When “vaping” first became a thing, I thought “Oh cute little smoking cessation thingy”. I did not forsee vaping shops marching across the urban landscape enticing new addicts.
  
  I commented yesterday that I (barely) preferred the New Zealand approach over the Australian approach. I think that I am wavering in my conviction.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:19am
  - Paulus
    
    Legally BAN ALL VAPING now !
    
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    June 3, 2024 2:14pm
    - Taieri
      
      Even better. Ban everything now!
      
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      June 3, 2024 2:53pm
- JimBobJoe
  
  Personal choice in the face of large quantities of literature and advertising on the ills of a legal product are just personal choices.
  
  People want to smoke or vape, have at it. Just dont whine when your lungs give out, you get a cancer of the respiratory track from nose to lungs or secondary cancers in the rest of your body.
  
  And dont do it near me, thanks very much.
  
  The price of freedom of choice is paying the full cost when it comes due.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:53am
  - Mike
    
    Well said. Let’s legalize marijuana, cocaine, heroin and meth too.
    
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    June 3, 2024 11:47am
- kowtow
  
  ‘How many smokers/vapers are no longer doing either?’
  
  Plenty no doubt ,given how unhealthy they tell us it is ,as they’ll have met an untimely demise.
  
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  June 3, 2024 12:38pm
  - Bridgenag
    
    especially if they have jax’s a few times
    
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    June 3, 2024 12:55pm
Chuck Bird

I see Labour is complaining that the government did not spend enough on these called climate emergency.
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June 3, 2024 10:18am
- Benedict Yu
  
  That is because the Labour Party always hated the Emissions Trading Scheme. Simply because it disclosed the efficient price of reducing emissions. Much better to borrow billions to disguise the cost.
  
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  June 3, 2024 10:21am
- Handyman
  
  Labour need not worry. The climate “emergency” will be still here (unchanged) when they next get back into power.
  
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  June 3, 2024 11:22am
Yvette

The use of “non-Māori” is also dangerous. It positions Māori culture as the norm against which all people are measured. Rather than fostering unity and collaboration, this usage suggests a hierarchical relationship, creating barriers and fostering animosity in our society. Such tactics have been employed by many historical figures seeking to exert control over populations by delineating clear boundaries of exclusion and inclusion. By labelling people as “non-something”, such as “non-white”, “non-Han Chinese”, “non-Aryans”, or “non-believers”, authorities and bullies throughout time have marginalised and devalued those who do not fit the preferred identity, justifying discriminatory practices, social hierarchies, and violence.

For New Zealand’s sake, it is essential that our leaders and policymakers adopt language that promotes inclusivity, respect, and recognition of diversity in our country. They can reject the belittling qualifier of “non-” and instead promote New Zealanders’ common humanity, shared experiences and love for this country, thereby fostering a sense of unity and belonging for us all.

FIONA MACKENZIE: Why the Term “Non-Māori” is Unhelpful
https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/fiona-mackenzie-why-the-term-non-māori-is-unhelpful

What then is a neutral, positive alternative for “non-Maori”
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June 3, 2024 10:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Fellow humans
  
  Comrades
  
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  June 3, 2024 12:12pm
- Jules
  
  NZ Europeans (because let’s face it, they’re normally talking about white people). If Maori NZers get specific acknowledgement as a group I don’t see why the majority ethnic group at least can’t. Or, I wouldn’t mind “non Maori” so much if we saw references to “non Europeans”.
  
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  June 3, 2024 1:30pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It is not acceptable to just have Maori and NZ European.
    
    Asian, Polynesian and Middleast-Latin folk now comprise nearly 30% of our population.
    
    887,493 people (17.8 percent) as Māori
    861,576 people (17.3 percent) as Asian
    442,632 people (8.9 percent) as Pacific peoples
    92,760 people (1.9 percent) as MELAA
    
    https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/2023-census-population-counts-by-ethnic-group-age-and-maori-descent-and-dwelling-counts/
    
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    June 3, 2024 7:46pm
    - Jules
      
      I was just referring to the largest ethnic group in NZ (who also built and developed the country). Happy to also have Asian, Pacific Islanders and whatever the “other” (infinitesimal numbers) mouthful is. I just don’t accept being lumped into the generic “non-Maori” category. Why do we never hear the term “non European”? Especially given that Europeans are by far the largest group it would actually make more sense to divide people into European and non European (if you were going to do it that way).
      
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      June 3, 2024 9:11pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      Maori should just come under Polynesian. Weird to have Maori, European, Asian and Pasifika as equal categories when some are subgroups of groups. It would be like categorising food as the following groups: meat, brazil nuts, fruit, cauliflower, grains and Norwegian salmon.
      
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      June 4, 2024 1:21am
I remember when

Court rules that land can be taken for bypass: North Taranaki Midweek.
The final 11 ha of land needed to complete the Mt Messenger State Highway 3 bypass project can be compulsorily acquired through the Public Works Act, the Environmental Court has ruled.
The North Taranaki project was last budgeted to cost $280 million.
It is estimated there will be a $37 million increase because work on the land was unable to start during the 2023/24 Summer construction season.
Potential finish date mid 2028.
When funding for the bypass was announced in 2016 the budget was $90 million.
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- CJames
  
  Didn’t they do a significant change of scope? That is usually the reason for the ridiculous cost blowouts.
  
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  June 3, 2024 11:07am
  - MCōs
    
    I read about a road tunnel somewhere that increased significantly because new safety regulations were introduced along the way as more expensive and sophisticated safety mechanisms became available, besides the cost of underground work always balloons
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:58pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I have an email from ‘Family First.’

https://familyfirst.org.nz/
It is Not a political Party or anything like it.
They have launched a site https://wokeup.nz/businesses/

“The website documents wokeness in New Zealand-based businesses so that Kiwi consumers can decide for themselves who to do business with and who to avoid, based on the values of the business and who that business financially supports.”

“A poll by Curia Market Research last year found that 33% of respondents want businesses to stay neutral on controversial issues, 20% want them to take a stand and 45% have no preference either way. However, 67% of respondents said it was somewhat or very likely they would boycott a business that took a public stand on a controversial issue they disagreed with.”

Interesting. My Bank is “Woke!”
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June 3, 2024 11:11am
- Hollyfield
  
  My bank is committed to 40% women and 20% non-binary in Board and Executive positions. They also want to maintain at least 50% of women in their general workforce.
  
  I have two questions.
  1. Are non-binary people not desirable in the general workforce? Are they not good enough to be employed at lower level positions to get a foot in the door at this bank? Does this mean therefore that the non-binary appointments at higher level are merely tokenism?
  2. If women are to be 40% of Board and Executive, but 50% of the general workforce, is the bank saying that women should be kept in the lower positions?
  
  If I can bother, I might write to my bank and ask about this discrimination and marginalisation of the very people they say they want to support.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:02pm
  - emmess
    
    Change banks
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:16pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    Why is there typically (over last few decades) only zero or one woman in top one hundred chess players? Similar patterns exist in elite STEM fields, with small percentages of women at highest levels of achievement. 2.5% STEM nobel winners were women 100 years back, 3-4% now. It hasn’t changed significantly. Nor will it ever because that is a result of fundamental sex differences in human brains.
    
    Evolution gambles more on men because historically only ~40% of men have kids (occassionaly drops below 10%) vs 80% of women. So men they have far greater variance in intelligence, and ~10% bigger brains. Eg an average 3 year old boy has brain larger than average adult woman, and given physiological cost of feeding larger brains it is clearly there for some advantages it bestows in competing with other men.
    
    Net result is men will always be the dominating majority of highest talents and geniuses, as wells as majority of morons. Top 1% men clearly and demonstrably have far greater innate ability in some intellectual directions compared to top 1% women. That may include a significant element of choice and motivation in area of long term focused interest on things and achievement rather than people, nice social lives and relationship focus more prevalent in women, but it is obviously a real thing and to pretend otherwise is dishonest and irrational.
    
    So from chess and Nobels there are ballpark perhaps 10x as many men with talents and psychological attributes best suited for the most elite intellectual jobs. And in that case it is discriminatory, sexist, racist etc to a lot of highly talented men to have more than 10% women (or whatever the true number is in whichever field) in those roles. Anything that distorts that is wasting critical talent and sabotaging/sapping civilisational productivity and prosperity.
    
    DEI is toxic cancer.
    
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    June 3, 2024 4:34pm
    - ISeeRed
      
      Is cancer ever not toxic? (Not trying to steal mikey’s trolling gig.)
      
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      June 4, 2024 1:23am
    - julesnzuk
      
      Males tend to the more extreme ends of the spectrum – there may be more male geniuses, but equally there are more male retards (if I can use that term) as well. Also, the top “chess player” types may be highly intelligent but they probably have limited social skills and are unlikely to possess the skill set for the majority of jobs in well paid sectors like finance. (To be clear I am in no way justifying DEI – as far as I’m concerned it’s communism).
      
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      June 4, 2024 4:31am
Ghost

German politician stabbed while campaigning

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A shocking video has exploded across social media showing a man stabbing anti-Islam activist and politician, 59-year-old Michael Stürzenberger, during a campaign event in Mannheim.
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June 3, 2024 11:12am
- NZer In Exile
  
  Why the need to stab people? Not a great advertisement for the perp’s religion is it???
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:43pm
Ghost

Karine Jean-Pierre explains why they gave the student loan forgiveness to those struggling
Twitter

Is the mayor that thanks Biden for his loan forgiveness struggling? Twitter
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June 3, 2024 11:29am
Yvette

A Rotorua iwi group fears legal action will limit its ability to peacefully protest a sewerage project it believes poses pollution risks to a sacred lake.
Rotorua Lakes Council has applied to the Rotorua District Court for an injunction to stop “interference” with construction of the $29 million Tarawera Wastewater Reticulation Scheme.
The council said work was paused in January after “protest obstruction, interference with the work site and safety concerns raised by the contractor”.
The Lake Rotokākahi Board of Control manages the iwi-owned lake, also known as Green Lake. It held a protest against the scheme in January but a leader says this was peaceful and no one in its group was responsible for the incident that stopped the works.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/06/01/iwi-injuncted-to-stop-protesting-wastewater-plan-by-sacred-lake/

So what standing or power resides in te Mana o te Wai?
Taumata Arowai – the New Zealand Water Regulator
https://www.taumataarowai.govt.nz/te-mana-o-te-wai/

Is the National Coalition was going to remove this quasi-religious arrangement with Maori.
As indicated above it appears totally non-functional anycase
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reference –
The Unbridled Power of Te Mana o te Wai
https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/the-unbridled-power-of-te-mana-o-te-wai/
by Thomas Cranmer – Founding editor of Newstalk ZB Plus and former lawyer, Philip Crump explores political, legal and cultural issues facing New Zealand.
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June 3, 2024 11:30am
Jack5

NZ mental-health mess continues …

Labour promised $2 billion (actually $1.9 billion) for mental hospitals, and the money disappeared.

Now psychiatrists accuse the Coalition Government of breaking promises on health training (link below).

This comes a couple of weeks after NZ’s first-evert Mental Health Minister, Matt Doocey, and the Deputy Prime Minister, Winston Peters, announced a $24 million boost for “Gumboot Friday.”

The Government says this will finance mental health counselling for 15,000 young New Zealanders a year.

Mike King, founder of Gumboot Friday, said the money would add 300 counsellors.

Good stuff, but will it help the jam-packed mental hospitals and their shortage of nurses and psychiatrists?

Matt Doocey’s the nephew of the former National Parliamentary speaker, David Carter. Doocey’s background includes study and work in counselling psychology, and this has led him into the controversial area of trans rights and politics (second link below).

Government accused of breaking mental health promise:

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/govt-breaks-mental-health-budget-funding-promise

And:

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/citizen-science-matt-doocey-doubles-down-on-trans-healthcare
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June 3, 2024 12:17pm
- Jules
  
  Doocey’s stance on trans and his background at the Tavistock Clinic is deeply disturbing. Not a word from him on the Cass Report and NZ’s ongoing use of puberty blockers in children. The man is a charlatan and I can’t see that he’s one to fix mental health in NZ anytime soon.
  
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  June 3, 2024 1:33pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    “Puberty blocker”
    Why would any SANE parent do such a thing ffs?
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:38pm
    - julesnzuk
      
      God knows. It’s child abuse as far as I’m concerned. I’m staggered that I got so many down ticks (I seem to have two usernames on this steam powered platform for some reason). Either Matt Doocey’s family/best mates are on here or NZ really must be captured by this trans insanity (that the UK is at least waking up to) – how embarrassing.
      
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      June 4, 2024 4:35am
- Paulus
  
  Do we know the breakdown in any way male/female and ethnicity of the people in Mental Health facilities and treatment ?
  And why it has grown exponentially and frighteningly.
  
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  June 3, 2024 2:20pm
  - Taieri
    
    And why it has grown exponentially and frighteningly
    ————-
    
    Micromanagement of all aspects of upbringing. Medicalization of behaviours previously considered “normal”.
    Ever growing number of “experts” with weird and wonderful ideas.
    Zombification of the young (and not so young) generation.
    And the list goes on and on…
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:08pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Does the ethnicity matter?
    Does the alphabet people’s qualification matter?
    Does the qualification matter?
    Hang on, I need to think this through.
    
    Please, can I have a bed near the window?
    
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    June 3, 2024 5:42pm
- ISeeRed
  
  http://www.betterhelp.com have 35,000 registered therapists. There are other sites and apps. So many modern issues could be addressed with existing private sector solutions and alternatives.
  
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  June 4, 2024 1:28am
NothingLeft

Discussion on why AI dooms us all. (Lex Friedman). https://youtu.be/NNr6gPelJ3E

It behooves us, as adults with sufficient intelligence to actually understand the stakes and insane risk to educate ourselves and act accordingly (Globally slow, stop, or strictly limit AI development) for the sakes of all the ignorati of the world and for all our descendents who won’t otherwise get the chance to exist.
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June 3, 2024 1:43pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Elon Musk says AI must have an “off switch” or a circuit breaker, before it is too late.
  
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  June 3, 2024 4:14pm
Ghost

The left showing their usual mentality again

Has National MP Maureen Pugh been the victim of a hack?

The MP for West Coast-Tasman’s profile on the National Party website appears to have been edited, with the byline of a newsletter she writes changed.

In the newsletter dated June 2021, Pugh’s name has been edited from Maureen Pugh to “Dumbass Poogh”.

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June 3, 2024 4:48pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Looks like the work of 12 year olds.
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:45pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Strange people in the mental politics World Ghost.
  Must be the new kids on the block.
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:45pm
- Mike
  
  Hacked by Simon (“she’s f’n useless”) Bridges?
  
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  June 3, 2024 6:11pm
fernglas

He Whenua Taurikura was the National Centre of Research Excellence for Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism. That research institute has had funding cut by $825,000 per year, delivering $3.3m to the Government across the four-year forecast period. In its first year of operation, it received $1.4 miilion in funding, for no discernible outcome. Its head is Prof. Joanna Kidman. You may recall her describing the Government as a “death cult” that “hates children” after the proposal to introduce boot camps. She attacked Trelise Cooper over a dress. It’s just a shame that all the funding hasn’t been removed. along with its head.
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June 3, 2024 5:15pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  “He Whenua Taurikura was the National Centre of Research Excellence for Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism. ”
  
  I wonder if they are looking into TPM. I guess not!
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:48pm
Benedict Yu

There has been some discussion on GD about the purpose of language as being to communicate clearly.

Here is an example of that failing.

You can register at MBIE for an “email alert” if a job comes up that matches your skills. This is an example of the email that you receive. 🙁

“Tēnā koe , He tūranga mahi kua whakahāngaitia ki ngā paearu i whakaritea mai e koe ki tō pūkete Jobs@MBIE: Senior Commercial and Contracts Manager

Taki uru ki tō tauhono Jobs@MBIE mā te wāhitau tukutuku o raro iho nei mō ngā pitopito kōrero mō t/ēnei tūranga: jobs.mbie.govt.nz A role/ roles match the search criteria you set up in your Jobs@MBIE profile: Senior Commercial and Contracts Manager

Log into your Careers Jobs@MBIE account at the following URL to view the details of the role(s): jobs.mbie.govt.nz Ngā mihi nui,Te Tīma Rapu Pūkenga ki MBIE MBIE Talent Acquisition team Click here to unsubscribe from MBIE job alert emails.”
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June 3, 2024 5:18pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Benedict, what are the chances of you asking for a reply in English?
  Or how about a reply in “Manglish?”
  Nga mihi, e-hoa
  
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  June 3, 2024 5:54pm
- wsk12345
  
  And you know what…. People like me look at that and say I’m not interested in working somewhere like that, and don’t apply. Yes it limits my job options but there are plenty outside govt. it must also significantly reduce the number of quality applicants.
  
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  June 3, 2024 8:49pm
DimChappie

Haimona Gray has posted an insider’s view of John Tamihere’s chairity empire to substack. I think he will be hearing from JT’s lawyers:

https://haimona.substack.com/p/the-darkness-of-the-tamihere-fiefdom?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1lrc55&triedRedirect=true
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June 3, 2024 6:07pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I reckon
  
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  June 3, 2024 9:34pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350299096/slow-crawl-home-holidaymakers-return-long-weekend

But what does “Waka Kotahi” have to say about this ?
Oh no ! Bad news on the roads means that NZTA takes responsibility .
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