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Tomtoddy

The New Auckland – creating slums.
Take a drive around the latest developments in Papakura. You may be shocked. Here is a preview of what you will see.
1. Houses less that 3 metres wide. Two stories, many with three generations crammed into uncomfortably small rooms. No garages or off street parking. No private area outside. Any situation of raised voice is heard by three or four neighbours.

2. Narrow streets but on both side a ridiculous 2.5 metre concrete footpath. Very difficult to drive down the street after 5.00pm. Some houses have three cars outside. A narrow grass verge growing weeds. Unpainted board fences constructed with green timber that is now warped, broken, leaning over, some with graffiti.

3. Cars jammed at all angles on the verge and footpath. Almost impossible to walk along the street or the footpath. Any verge areas muddied up or weeds to fence height.

4. No play areas for kids. No lawns or a pocket handkerchief sized open area also growing weeds. Kids wandering around on the street.

5. Many have no outside clothes line for healthy drying. Clothes are draped over fences.

6. Odd corners are accumulating rubbish. That means rats, smells, disease.

7. Plus features:

a. The small of curries cooking where ever you go.
b. Housing new immigrants who can cope with cramped conditions for a year or three until they can afford something bigger and better.
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March 25, 2025 8:03am
- AitchW
  
  Parts of Hamilton are identical.
  I’d guess most are either KO or private rentals.
  5 or 6 years old and already eyesores.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:07am
- cmm
  
  “Houses less that 3 metres wide. Two stories, many with three generations crammed into uncomfortably small rooms”
  
  You are imposing your values on others. What you consider uncomfortable, many would consider luxury.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:13am
  - David Garrett
    
    Cmm: Not sure if ur being facetious mate. I don’t venture to South Auckland, but driving round newer areas of Albany and Silverdale is just as depressing: it’s Coronation Street in the southern hemisphere. And with wood replacing brick.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:24am
    - cmm
      
      I’m not being facetious at all.
      
      It isn’t the Evil White Man cramming three generations into two rooms. They’re going it themselves. Therefore it must be better than other options they have.
      
      If you’ve lived 8 to a single roomed mud hut in Africa, then one of these small dwellings looks like a palace.
      
      Still, from an outside perspective – there goes NZ. It is certainly likely these will be ghettos in 10 to 20 years.
      
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      March 25, 2025 8:42am
      - David Garrett
        
        Cmm: they are ghettoes now mate…just minus the graffiti, cars up on blocks, and dogs barking all night.
        
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        March 25, 2025 8:46am
      - cmm
        
        Fair enough,. The word I should have used was slums. They’re ghettos now and destined to become slums in 10 to 20 years.
        
        The reason these are ghettos (ie. poor areas occupied primarily by minority groups) is because these areas are a good deal for them.
        
        You or I and quarter-acre-dreamer NZers from the 1970s might turn up our noses to these, but if you come from a tiny apartment in Delhi or such then it’s pretty good.
        
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        March 25, 2025 8:58am
      - pdm
        
        GD that is right.
        
        In Hastings just across the road from Splash Planet on Grove Road there are at least a dozen and maybe as many as twenty I assume to be new Housing NZ places built as per TT’s specifications above.
        
        Those fronting Grove Road, some front a back street, have been occupied for 6 to 8 weeks and when mrspdm and I drove past early on we commented on the quality of cars in the driveways – not a dunger to be seen. There seemed to be some hope.
        
        6 to 8 weeks on not a blade of grass has been mown and these brand new houses are already taking on a scruffy, unkempt look.
        
        No pride whatsoever.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:25am
      - Colville
        
        pdm.
        Hastings.
        Council insist on landscaping that no one wants. KO dosent want it as no one will look after it.
        
        Jacinda removed the requirement for carparking in 1 or 2 bedders… but in Hawkes Bay there is no public transport…so what do they do?
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:45am
      - Jethrod
        
        The main thing is that it is a long way from Remuera and Herne Bay.
        
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        March 25, 2025 4:37pm
    - BananaLlama
      
      What tilted me was all the private construction claiming all the on-street parking with signs telling private citizens that they would be towed if they parked next to the construction site because the construction company is too venal to site proper access and need to offload all of their material with a Hiab over the safety fence.
      This is not the publics problem if anyone should be fined it should be the clown show developers taking 10+ years to build some shoe boxes and disrupting everyone elses life in the process.
      
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      March 25, 2025 9:55am
      - Gussy Fink-Nottle
        
        Builders often lease council space for their use, including on-street parking. If they didn’t think they needed them, they wouldn’t waste the $.
        
        If they’re simply assuming a bogus right to use them (and tow others that do), that’s wrong and could be easily challenged.
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:51am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    @cmm. I acknowledged your point in the last comment I made. It is probably true for many arriving in NZ. The question is what happens when immigration slows down or stops? Do we have to keep bringing in new immigrants to keep these places occupied?
    
    What will they look like in 30 year’s time?
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      I think we can expect that they will become slums and, quite likely, will have a constant stream of “new immigrants” coming through these areas.
      
      I would expect that most people would move out of these areas as their fortunes improve – moving to either better houses or even leaving NZ and moving to Australia etc with the rest of the competent people.
      
      Thus we can expect more transients and less real community building in these areas.
      
      All pure speculation of course…
      
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      March 25, 2025 9:26am
  - Surely Knott
    
    “many with three generations crammed into uncomfortably small rooms””
    
    Conversely though we have western kids whose parents have a large house that they own in Auckland yet they choose to go and stay in the Halls for $15k per year and put it on their student loans. Or leave their parents house with adequate room to go flatting when they haven’t started saving a deposit for a house.
    
    And then ask why they can’t afford a house.
    
    In other cultures the elderly might look after young instead of putting them in daycare, or elderly live with the kids so they don’t go to a retirement home.
    
    These decisions will affect future wealth more even than avocado on toast.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:28am
- pdm
  
  Our daughter and son in law live in Papakura – and meet at least 1, 2, 4 and 5 although they have no children to worry about.
  
  They are a block or two off Cleveland Road and surrounding area is not enticing as far as I could see whenever we have visited.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:19am
- peterwn
  
  Much of that is not the problem of the developers. Requiring off street parking was considered appropriate in the past, but really this is a tradeoff that purchasers should be allowed to make. Similarly on street width unless the street has some arterial function. Parking should be restricted on one or both sides as need be to allow fire appliances and other utility vehicles to travel freely along the street.
  It is also not the developer’s fault if the dwelling was intended for a single person or couple without kids, but its occupants overcrowd it.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:48am
- lastmanstanding
  
  A parent or caregiver who doesnt feed their children is abusing those children and must be investigated by the appropriate Government action with the appropriate action taken.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:35am
- Jigsaw
  
  Here in Taupo we now have have two areas where there are illegal housing. Shacks and shanties including buses and caravans built onto. No running water and not connected to sewage lines or septic tanks. Surrounding land with old cars etc. A council too terrified to do anything. the local tribe have just opened a brand new $40 million building.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:38am
- NoFax
  
  Unfortunately, this has been happening for a while now – new ghettos and slums to come – and not just in Papakura. We are importing many low-skill labour, and the only “affordable” places to live are on the outskirts of Auckland. Further, part of the reason for these types of houses is council requirements without different housing styles. No public transport and, therefore, high dependency on cars. If we are to avoid slums, we need to dramatically slow down immigration and allow for quality dense housing as there are in other countries.
  Of course, Luxon wants to ramp up immigration from India so it’s going to continue.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:45am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Can you point to where he said Indian immigration is a must for a tariff free trade deal?
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:03am
- RoboRob
  
  These are as designed. The dream of NZ cities having subways like NY, London or Singapore relies on housing density. You can only have good affordable public transport with high density. That means appartment buildings or at a pinch lots of tiny houses with no land and parking.
  
  Look at the US. Cities with good public transport have highrise and high housing prices. The cities with low housing prices have large sections and roads but poor public transport. It really is a choice between one or the other.
  
  In NZ the greenies have been fighting for high density and high price housing (by setting city borders and restricting land supply) for decades.
  
  Look at Christchurh as a good alternative. After the earthquakes a lot of land was opened up. Generally low / medium density housing. Prices did not jump much during Covid and have not fallen during thre recession. p.s. Yes I know there are areas in CHCH with high density, I am speaking in general.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:02am
  - Debsta
    
    I think you’re confusing the chicken and the egg there Robo
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:36am
    - RoboRob
      
      Not 100% sure what you mean. Auckland (and many other cities) have limited greenfield land, by design. The only way to build is to put more on smaller sections.
      
      These ‘slums’ are the result of the council planners plans for better public transport. They aren’t the result of too much immigration or poor developers. The town planners want more density.
      
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      March 25, 2025 3:01pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Yes, one reason for the open spaces and golf courses etc is to deal with rainfall and help avoid flooding.
        The high density housing leaves little room for rain to soak in to the ground.
        
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        March 25, 2025 4:08pm
  - Skippytony
    
    Christchurch roading infrastructure is already groaning under the load. I have been commuting in and out of Auckland CBD quite a lot lately and surprisingly my average speed in Auckland is faster than my 12 month rolling average commuting in and out of the Chch CBD.
    There are whole suburbs being done over with “medium density” 4 townhouses on sections that used to hold a single dwelling. Go for a drive through Spreydon – future ghettos in the making.
    The vast majority of new inner city housing only comes with (at best) one carpark. We used to be able to park on the streets round say Latimer Square at night. Not anymore, all taken up by the 2nd and 3rd cars in those new units.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:55am
    - RoboRob
      
      Personally I find getting around Christchurch a breeze, much better then Auckland. However I dont often go into the CBD. That is appallingly bad, also by design.
      
      The ‘public transport at all costs’ planners, 30km speed limit, bus lanes and traffic lights are all designed to make driving as unpleasent as posible. It works.
      
      My wife works in the CBD for the evil empire (govt). There are no staff parks and a car pool for staff to do site visits (which she does) . She takes the bus in and out of work.
      
      Oh, I agree there is a lot of infill dev in CHCH but generally the pricing of housing is more realistic here then most other main centres.
      
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      March 25, 2025 2:55pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  And some are built with no garage/off street parking which IMO should not be allowed. So many streets are now lined with parked cars making the street so thin that two cars cannot pass each other.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:39am
- Ra Henare
  
  An alternative thought if they are Housing NZ living quarters for beneficiaries.
  
  What a great incentive to go get a job, get off the bennie and get better accommodation.
  
  Providing plush roomy Bennie accommodation (check Porirua State housing) means Bennie for life.
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:16pm
Matt Long

A follow up on yesterday’s post, “Why didn’t the Gazans warn their liberal Israeli friends?
Would you report someone in ISIS who was about to kill people?

Answer: “It’s not allowed in Islam to report fellow Muslims to the authorities.”
https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1903868909805052255
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March 25, 2025 8:04am
- Im Right
  
  There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim Matt, their silence over the jihadist terrorist, or ‘lone wolf’ terrorist attacks are almost deafening.
  Ohhh sure when a local Muslim leader is interviewed on TV they will decry it as rogue and ‘not Islam’….behind closed doors the celebration continues.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:12am
  - riffer
    
    That’s an extreme generalism and a definite case of “othering”.
    
    I put it to you that you know jack shit about what the average muslim thinks. I doubt you know any.
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:23pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Riffer: Ah yes…”othering” – the dreadful supposed sin that I commit by believing that gang members and other scum are “other” than me. Damn fucking right they are “other”!
      
      I dont know any Muslims, and I know quite enough about their bloodthirsrty death cult to know I don’t want to know any .
      
      And BTW the word you seek is “generalization”…generalism means something different
      
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      March 25, 2025 12:53pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        You need to get out more David and stop reading the MSM/Western media.
        
        I know a good number of Muslims, in fact a number live close to me.
        
        Very far from being bloodthirsty they are gentle and kind.
        
        Dealing in large numbers (Muslims) will always find bloodthirsty crazies.
        
        Chicago and gun murders by blacks, doesnt mean all blacks are crazy murders
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:27pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Ra: “You need to get out more”…that’s so last century.
        
        Not only do I live in a foreign culture, but I expose myself to a wide range of media – MSM and otherwise – daily.
        
        Are you trying to suggest that when the MSM report another beheading or bombing in the name of Allah the Merciful they have made it up? I don’t think so.
        
        Perhaps you should “get out more” by asking your kind and gentle friends their opinion of these punishments:
        
        Adultery (by a female): stoning to death
        Adultery (by a male): nothing
        Being gay: death
        Leaving Islam: death
        
        Those few will do for starters. Do report back.
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:53pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Im Right. Guess you have never been to Indonesia and checked out their Society then?
    
    I have.
    
    286 million population
    87% Muslim
    
    Yep, you are not really tuned in to the Muslim world but rather sensational MSM western headlines and propaganda
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:20pm
    - Matt Long
      
      Ra, perhaps you could comment on how the Islamic Parties treated the communists at the founding of modern Indonesia, or this.
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/muslims-slaughter-christians/
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55140847
      There are of course moslems who are not Islamists, but…
      
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      March 25, 2025 2:52pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        My point Matt is that with large populations you will always get extremists. The larger the population the larger the number of items to get MSM attention.
        
        As I often say. You can find on the internet any examples of whatever to support your belief systems.
        
        [Mod – debate without the personal abuse]
        
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        March 25, 2025 4:59pm
      - Matt Long
        
        A small minority killed between half a million and 1.5 million. Just a blip.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366
        
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        March 25, 2025 6:35pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        Seems I am not allowed to respond to DG as it is deemed Personal abuse.
        
        He suggests I get out more.
        
        Just to say I do get out a lot with travel to Europe, Asia as well as Orstralia.
        
        I also mix with the full range of peoples, from elites to the struggling poor. From Red Necks of some Western Religions to other ethic/Religious peoples.
        
        and yes I do live in a foreign culture.
        
        Maybe my problem is I try to look past other’s prejudices and try to establish some real truths..
        
        [Mod – cut the personal abuse out and you can reply to him, and drop this attitude you always have when asked to stop the abuse of claiming innocence]
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:01pm
  - Philview
    
    I recently read Salman Rusdie’s book Knife which is a biographical account of his attempted murder. He talks of brave Muslim writers who have met an early death for criticising extreme elements in their religion. There is a paradox in the book in that he is a lefty, he acknowledges that left wing leaders in particular have thrown him under the bus. Yet still criticises right wing leaders despite the fact that Margaret Thatcher kept him alive.
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:52pm
- cmm
  
  In other words you can never depend on a Muslim unless you are a Muslim.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:13am
  - Local Miller
    
    And not even then!
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:40am
RRM

So NOW we don’t like forced or coerced medication of people who may not have given their enthusiastic consent?

Now that there’s an easy case to think about, with obvious outrageous abuse of an innocent child. And it just so happens, circumstances where I don’t feel like there’s any way that protecting the autonomy of the individual could result in any personal risk at all for me.

New Zealand’s ad-hoc, every individual issue is treated as its own separate island based on how the news reporting makes me feel, approach to right & wrong continues. Principles are something to stick up for for when decisions are easy, and the right action is obvious.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/11yo-misidentified-by-police-handcuffed-given-antipsychotic-drugs-at-waikato-mental-health-facility/DB2AKK435NGAFISN6RMTK2OZQU/#Echobox=1742838868
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March 25, 2025 8:06am
Cassandra

Some really interesting studies on WFH. The consensus is that hybrid is best. Most employees like a proportion of home so favour in-office Tuesday to Thursday, home on Monday and Friday. (I’d call that a three day week rather than hybrid). Most employers want most of their staff in the office but apparently hybrid results in less turnover and recruiting is very expensive.

I’m suspicious of the Monday/Friday at home preference, too much like a very long weekend, and the research quoted consistently mentioned the opportunity to catch up on domestic chores. Commuting was another downside. But the upsides of being in the office are huge. Very few jobs are better WFH. A barrister working on a speech perhaps, data entry might work, but not many others.

My granddaughter is in the office one day a week. But she controls a UK traffic signage company’s IT security and is on or near a screen perpetually, so her job is very much an exception. For most jobs in the office for all really is best.
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March 25, 2025 8:09am
- cmm
  
  At the same time companies seem to be going through the “hot desk” phase again. No permanently assigned desks, first come first served. People like their personal space.
  
  Many are also limiting parking etc too.
  
  All this makes it very unpleasant to actually go to the office. One of my major customers has hybrid work and unless you get to the office before 8.30 you won’t find a parking. As a result, many just WFH.
  
  Are they getting a performance hit? Likely yes. But then they are not suffering all the interruptions and such of working in an office either.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:19am
  - john1234
    
    Hot desk is an awful concept. I want to have my seat and my desk setup to my preference. I don’t want someone else’s sweaty arse farting into my seat if I’m not there.
    I’d be looking to change jobs if I was employed by a hot desk business. It just screams “employees are not valued individuals”.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:33am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Hot desking never worked in primary school, especially when the desk had a lid and you stored your stuff in the desk at the end of the day.
    
    There is no reason to suggest that hot desking works anywhere. As a part time temporary contractor, maybe. But to an employee it sends an unconscious message: “You are transient, not part of a team, and no longer an individual. You could be made redundant, or shifted to another dept at a moment’s notice.”
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:34am
  - Gravelroad
    
    When I started my first job (daily newspaper) there were five of us in a smallish room.
    We each had our own desk, telephone and typewriter.
    People came in and out of the room frequently and often noisily.
    We managed.
    As the most junior one there, I did as I was told and did the work listed under my name in the diary every day.
    There was oversight of everything I did.
    That was the expectation of our employer – (which was not a government department.).
    The owner of the company was paying the wages, not the taxpayer.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:44am
  - rouppe
    
    Exactly. Businesses can’t have it both ways. Many have 80% or less office space for their workforce.
    
    Plus, working in teams benefits from colocation. The hot desk model means a team won’t be guaranteed to be together, and may not even be on the same floor. For team cohesion that’s no different to working from home.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:49am
  - Blog-aholic
    
    Hot desking is like following someone into the dunny and finding the seat warm………
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:14am
  - cmm
    
    Hot desking certainly does not work with my sort of work where we are developing firmware (ie software for running on electronics). My desk has cables, special antennas and around $20k of logic analysers and oscilloscopes etc.
    
    I think hot desking could work for some people who have their whole life on a laptop, but even then it’s terrible for teamwork/community building.
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:30am
  - Ra Henare
    
    This is nothing new. I had client customers in the 70s that did hot desking, admittedly for their sales force.
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:22pm
- artemisia
  
  The lamented Benedict Yu used to quite correctly refer to non-working in the office. Chats, breaks, faffing about.
  
  That’s actually under the eye of bosses. I once terminated an employee who seemed to be working hard but not producing much. A review of their work email showed they were running an extensive side hustle.
  
  WFH, multiply by … ?
  
  I used to work for a multinational that cancelled ALL WFH after finding employees on the payroll that nobody knew about.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:31am
  - pdm
    
    It was only when I saw BY’s name Arty that I realised I had not seen him here for a while.
    
    Is he in purgatory (sent by the mods) or is it a more serious situation?
    
    Everything he contributed was worth a look even if one did not agree all of the time.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:45am
    - David Garrett
      
      Pdm: I’m with you…although Bene did chide me from time to time, his contributions were always worth reading. I hope all is well with him – I can’t see him getting a holiday for being naughty. Any information on his whereabouts gratefully received.
      
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      March 25, 2025 8:51am
      - AitchW
        
        Why would anyone dox him?
        I know he was strong supporter of Covid vaccinations, did an especially committed antivaxxer lose the plot?
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:01am
    - artemisia
      
      He posted he was leaving because he had been doxxed, I think for the second time. Sad.
      
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      March 25, 2025 8:53am
      - cmm
        
        Unless he’s really very different from the persona he presented, he very much self-doxxed with all the information he made available about himself.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:00am
      - David Garrett
        
        I have never understood this paranoia about being “doxed” – do we still have phone books, in which the address of subscribers is listen?
        
        When I was in NZ I used to publish my address on here, and invite my – invariably anonymous other than the killer – critcs to come out and confront me in person. None ever did.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:07am
      - Ian Boag
        
        So who is he anyway?
        
        If he has been doxed, someone knows 🙂
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:20am
      - John Loveridge
        
        That’s a real shame. I enjoyed Benedict’s contributions.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:32am
      - cmm
        
        “I have never understood this paranoia about being “doxed””
        
        BY mostly works in government departments – it would seem as a contractor – and was outspoken about their processes.
        
        This could compromise his future employment.
        
        I use a pseudonym for similar reasons and, like BY, I have probably leaked enough information that anyone with a bit of motivation could figure out who I am.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:35am
      - AitchW
        
        DG, when you look at the level of pure bile spat on social media it’s not surprising that people want to keep their personal details confidential. Small (and not so small ) businesses can be wrecked by a pile on, who the hell needs that if you’re a business owner.
        Even worse, family members can be drawn in causing all sorts of potentially serious issues.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:39am
      - G152
        
        Facebook will dox you and they wont even give you a warning.
        Mate lost his connection so I dropped mine
        
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        March 25, 2025 10:00am
      - BananaLlama
        
        It would be nice to know who was the one doxxing.
        
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        March 25, 2025 10:47am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Ditto. I have a role that involves interaction with the woke and the wet. Workday Bollocks is very different to KB Bollocks!
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:36am
  - JackRabbit
    
    …showed they were running an extensive side hustle.
    …after finding employees on the payroll that nobody knew about..
    
    As DOGE have been extensively finding in both cases.
    
    And whatever happens in a multinational, you can multiply by at least five (5) in the public service.
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:56am
  - Scooter
    
    Another persona MIA is Maggie Pie, shame as she was one of a kind with her quips and irreverent humour. We need more people taking the piss in this woke world.
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:14am
    - David Garrett
      
      Scooter: humour, rather like beauty, is a matter of individual taste. I personally found Maggies “humour” utterly puerile – and her “asking for a friend” particularly so.
      
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      March 25, 2025 10:28am
      - Scooter
        
        DG Each to their own, but there seems to be a lot less humour on this site since she has disappeared. Ps maybe those more left leaning pc types didn’t get her sense of political incorrectness, just saying for a friend.
        
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        March 25, 2025 10:56am
      - Ghost
        
        Her racism was getting boring.
        
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        March 25, 2025 10:59am
      - Bridgenag
        
        And of course your 450 an hour
        
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        March 25, 2025 12:23pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Bridgenag: in 15 years of commenting and occasionally posting on this blog, I have referred to my chargeout rate just ONCE…
        
        Maggie was “asking for a friend” every second comment.
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:05pm
    - Bobba Fret
      
      I miss Benedict but not so much Maggie Pie
      
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      March 25, 2025 10:50am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      She might be hanging out with the girls from tennis
      
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      March 25, 2025 6:47pm
- Raphael
  
  I did WFH from late 2018 through to late 2021. (so a year before C19 made it common) and, as a software dev, I far prefer working in the office.
  1.) better collab (the ability to ask a colleague to “hey look here quick is invaluable)
  2.) clear separation between work and home
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:39am
  - PurplePen
    
    Pretty much the same, as a contractor. I did hours at home tho when I had some serious report writing to do. But otherwise the ease of collaboration with others on other work, consulting etc was what being in the office provided.
    
    Something that always got me tho was those that used their work phone after hours for personal use and then moaned about getting work related texts or emails or phone calls after hours. I never understood why they just didn’t leave their work phone at work which is the way it always was before cellphones. I suppose the moaning was the price they paid to have a free personal phone service.
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:46pm
- RichardF
  
  It’s horses for courses, Cassandra. I wfh 2 days and have a role that is deadline and project based. I’m not a barrister or data entry clerk. It’s obvious if the work is not being completed on time. In nearly 5 years of hybrid working, performance issues have never been raised with me. Like your granddaughter, I only need a laptop to do my job. The office is busier these days which creates problems like not enough desks. I enjoy being in the office but I enjoy the flexibility to drop my kids at school twice a week or run an errand at lunchtime I would otherwise try and do on a Saturday.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:48am
  - pdm
    
    Public Servant?
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:32am
  - wsk12345
    
    Similarly I work in the private sector and have WFH for more than 10 years. Never had a time sheet disputed or questions about my work. Occasionally I appear in the office but it’s such a time waster – endless social club, te reo BS, people talking. I get double the volume of work done at home. Could never go back. One day and I feel like I’m wasting my life there.
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:44am
    - slijmbal
      
      @wsk – I’ve been WFH or WFH hybrid since 2008 – originally driven for personal reasons but my roles are service based and it’s clear when I’m not delivering and frequently have outisde of 9-5 requirements so any customer of mine who cannot cope with that I don’t bother with.
      
      Having said that it definitely is not for all. When we had our own services company we had about 25% who didn’t perform WFH but the majority seemed equal or better and appreciated the flexibility it gave them, We were sensible enough not to punish all for the failures of the minority and those that did not perform lost their ability to WFH.
      
      However, I’ve done a lot of work with corporates in the last 20 years and they seem to have a significantly higher percentage who perform worse when WFH and corporates tend to have a higher percentage of idle staff anyway. I can see why many corporates are moving back to mandatory attendance.
      
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      March 25, 2025 5:56pm
- sirknz
  
  At least you’re consistent with your anti WFH bias, it seems like it is alright when your family members do it but anyone else can’t be trusted…
  
  If we had everyone back in the office every day of the week, it would affect parking for all the other business in our neck of the woods. We’ve increased headcount over the years since the great cough plagued the land to the point where we don’t have enough parking onsite for everyone, and we take up most of the onstreet parking whenever we have an all hands on deck situation.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:37am
Matt Long

Texas Governor Greg Abbott bans sharia law, while England makes anti white discrimination official.
https://x.com/JDVanceNewsX/status/1903633985038921733
https://news.sky.com/story/anger-over-two-tier-sentencing-as-justice-secretary-shabana-mahmood-rejects-new-guidelines-13322444
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March 25, 2025 8:09am
- PurplePen
  
  Is islamic sharia law in western democracies like catholic canon law? Or is the idea that ‘having’ sharia law in democracies mean it’s incorporated into government legislation. If its like canon law then fill your boots as it’s only of concern to those that choose or are somehow locked into that belief system. If it means it’s incorporated into law then I can’t see that ever happening.
  
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  March 25, 2025 12:54pm
  - AitchW
    
    My impression is that sharia law runs alongside the law of the land and the enforcers appear to operate without fear and with impunity, ie eating [beating] savagely a woman judged to have acted immodestly by showing her hair.
    We really, really don’t need that shit here.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:29pm
  - Matt Long
    
    It’s about creating enclaves where the rule off law does not apply, from which a country can be colonized and subjugated.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:55pm
Bridgenag

rethinking daycare for dimwits
the enstupiding of the american educational system

“if one aspired to the long term destruction of a society, it would be difficult to improve upon “turning its institutions of learning into calamitous clown colleges whose output lacks basic skills or grounding” and then mandating that all children participate in that system for an enormous portion of their childhood.”

https://open.substack.com/pub/boriquagato/p/rethinking-daycare-for-dimwits?r=1aj1bv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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March 25, 2025 8:24am
sungsamning

Obama’s Aid Laundromat.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/huge-barack-obama-was-using-usaid-pretend-send/

During their conversation, Mike Benz shared how Barack Obama was using money to USAID to pretend to send “aid” overseas. In actuality, Obama was laundering the taxpayer dollars and using it to train “rent-a-mobs” instead!
This is a huge development but maybe not so surprising considering how Democrats believe they can do anything they please. With other people’s money. [Does one really need a lot of Tide, or Persil to clean notes made mostly of plastic? // sarc]
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March 25, 2025 8:28am
- JackRabbit
  
  Similar to the Ukraine laundromat.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:34am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, indeed. Just a block away from each other. Perhaps they hang out together while they wait for the cycle to complete? So little reason for a high degree of cynicism. // sarc
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:45pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wYjW6qLpO4
You’d Never Guess How Much You Are Paying Maori Every Year.
In the simplest terms it means NZ recession could be ended overnight while improving care and law enforcement if we simply treated all kiwis equally. [Facts are racist // sarc]
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March 25, 2025 8:29am
- Steve Otto N Shore
  
  The gravy train needs to be stopped. It is more out of hand than I thought.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:36am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, that info shocked me too.
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:45pm
- kowtow
  
  Dunedin rate payer , already regally rooted by council . Doubly so with race “consultation”.
  
  Mentioned on NZME radio last night .
  
  Is it on the front page of the ODT , it should be. But that wouldn’t fit “active protection”.
  
  ‘Dunedin City Council (DCC) has spent a staggering $1.365 million over just three years on consultation with Aukaha—an iwi-owned consultancy firm—with ratepayers now hit by an average rates hike of 17.5%.’
  
  https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/revealed_cultural_consultants_cash_in_1365m_dunedin_rates_soar
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:36am
  - John Loveridge
    
    This is nothing more than corruption.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:37pm
cmm

It looks like the gangs will be able to get their confiscated money back again.

Just open a “meth rehab” programme and they give you your money back.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360599788/proceeds-crime-fund-re-open-community-after-three-year-freeze
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March 25, 2025 8:29am
- JackRabbit
  
  That was started by Ardern with the $2.75m.
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:35am
  - cmm
    
    It was frozen, then unfrozen again…
    
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    March 25, 2025 9:47am
- pdm
  
  Well the Treaty is a partnership after all.
  
  If the Prime Minister says that 8 times in a speech it must be correct.
  
  Thinking about it that is more than 50% of the times Jacinda Ardern used the word `Comrades’ in her infamous speech.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:39am
Cassandra

Where is Benedict Yu?
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March 25, 2025 8:43am
- cmm
  
  He said he was leaving forever after being doxxed.
  
  That was ~3 weeks ago now.
  
  A significant loss.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:01am
  - RoboRob
    
    Yes, sad he has gone. I thnik I missed his farewell post.
    
    He provided well reasoned arguements and good insights into government departments. Did someone post his details online?
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:07am
  - imalwaysright
    
    He was ok on other subjects, but his covid stuff had become nonsense and name calling. I got the impression he made a voluntary exit.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:29am
- NothingLeft
  
  Became yet another victim of left wing vindictiveness/nastiness.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:43am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    … [It was dealt with at the time. mod.]
    
    As far as I remember, most of the people who got into arguments with BY did so from the right, not from the left. He was vocal on the reality of climate change and vaccine efficacy, both of which put him in opposition to received opinion among Kiwibloggers, although not our host
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:31pm
Rusty

Five years ago today NZ was plunged into a covid lockdown by a Marxist PM and ex-WHO health director.

Both resigned later and got gongs from King Charles and still have never been held accountable for their illegal and inhumane actions and probably never will.
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March 25, 2025 8:57am
- JackRabbit
  
  …by a Marxist PM and ~~ex-~~ deployed on assignment WHO health director
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:36am
David Garrett

I have never understood this paranoia about being “doxed” – do we still have phone books, in which the address of subscribers is listed?

When I was in NZ I used to publish my address on here, and invite my – invariably anonymous other than the killer – critcs to come out and confront me in person. None ever did.
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March 25, 2025 9:11am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Sadly it only takes one nutjob. JK Rowling has been doxxed to the point where she now has in house security 24/7 365………Some people take ‘taking her out’ very seriously……
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:19am
  - RoboRob
    
    Amazing how this ‘stuff’ often on comes from the ‘peaceful and loving’ left.
    
    Bud goes woke. The right protests by not buying (actually it was less of a protest and more of a ‘I dont identify with that brand and there are heaps of options).
    
    Elon goes rightwing. Leftist set up a corordnated anti Tesla movement (with web site etc) and shoot, firebomb, tag and scratch random Teslas. Web site lists names and addresses of tesla owners to ‘force’ them to divest in their cars.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:04am
- sirknz
  
  Nobody below 65 has a landline anymore and it probably breaches the privacy act, the treaty, and is also inherently racist by the modern standard…
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:43am
  - Steve Otto N Shore
    
    We still have a landline, and my name is unlisted in the online white pages.
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:45am
- cmm
  
  The difference is that general people are not expressing their opinions in the phone book.
  
  If you’re an Act supporter in a generally leftie workplace (as BY presumably is), then that can count against his future employment etc.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:49am
  - David Garrett
    
    Cmm: Well maybe…I always thought he was posting under his own name – but a while ago he informed us that BY was not in fact his real name. He gave as a reason that being known could damage his employment prospects.
    
    Surely there are any number of Asians contracting to govt departments?
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:33am
    - cmm
      
      He leaked many details including stuff about his partner and her work. On one occasion it seems to have got his partner in trouble too.
      
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      March 25, 2025 11:18am
Scooter

Word soup salad Luxon is on Hosking and yet again all appeasing talk about the RMA and the Wind Farm being rejected or the Kaianga Ora Tenant being allowed to stay, yet no definitive action to stop it. Luxon is a one trick economic pony and doesn’t understand that in politics it’s not all about the money. He needs to realise that societal problems need fixing as much as the economy.
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March 25, 2025 9:25am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I am financially secure like many so I look at other issues. One is that men who claim to be women should not be allowed to play against women in sports or invade women’s spaces. There are many other issues I am sure others could name.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:22am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  So why was the wind farm turned down in the so called expert panel of fast track? It is utterly pathetic and power company is still be banned from building power generation when we need it most ffs, Rubbish Luxon if you like, but ask your self the same question about the wind farm, and don’t give me any waffle about wind doesn’t always blow or any of that crap
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:09am
- BeaB
  
  I thought it a competent interview – good questions and reasonable answers with a few well-aimed pokes at Labour. Luxon came over as relaxed, good-humoured and well-informed. He was succinct and used very little silly business jargon.
  But haters will keep on hating and partisans will stay their side of the ramparts.
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:53am
  - PurplePen
    
    Yes .. he was uncharacteristically more professional and less word-salady. The giggles had ceased as well.
    
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    March 25, 2025 12:58pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yet the poster said it was word salad, why do people on here simply want to lie?
      
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      March 25, 2025 6:57pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    So sick of hearing the bullshit about his interviews, yes he bogs himself down at times, but mostly he answers with a fair answer, looks like the whole coalition is going to point to Hipkins lies, they were lying again in the house again today on several fronts,
    
    A couple of weeks ago I listened to his replay y to o see what he said, and as sure as the sun coming up, it was reported here it was a train crash, and just like Hipkins the people on here were lying
    
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    March 25, 2025 6:56pm
NothingLeft

Interesting discussion by the Malcom and Simone Collins (pronatalist proselytizers who do a lot of fascinating commentary on sociopolitical issues) on why the left doesn’t understand the right:
https://youtu.be/NnxLFXvQYKI
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March 25, 2025 9:41am
Surely Knott

A series of 3 recent car attacks mowing people down in Germany.

“The incident in downtown Mannheim took place on the Monday of regional Carnival celebrations. It followed weeks of warnings that potential terror attacks could take place during Germany’s pre-Easter festival period.”

“But the attack does not appear to be motivated by political or religious factors, and authorities are exploring the suspect’s mental health as a possible factor” Mmmmm

Are other western countries at risk of car attacks in the lead up to Easter? Or did Germany have special intel.

https://www.dw.com/en/what-is-behind-the-many-german-car-ramming-attacks/a-71827106
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March 25, 2025 10:07am
- Surely Knott
  
  Auckland Uni car incident drives 20 m on footpath into crowd of students, witnesses said it seemed intentional. . Someone arrested. For what they don’t say. Who they don’t say.
  
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  March 25, 2025 12:22pm
Chuck Bird

Should Luxon as a devout Christian bow down to a Hindu God?

StraightTalk – 24 March 2025

By Family First

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPiZBYuEAA
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March 25, 2025 10:17am
- Ghost
  
  Luxon goes to India and does what countless tourists do embracing the experience. Sadly back home the idiots use it as a means to attack his beliefs.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:23am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Do countless tourists bow their heads till they hit the floor to some non-Christian God?
    
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    March 25, 2025 10:40am
    - Ghost
      
      Let’s be honest, it doesn’t matter what luxon does you would be here having your usual daily bitch about him.
      
      He’s a guest in India, he’s showing his respect, he’s doing what tourists do. It’s sad that there are individuals who are so inept in their own beliefs that they turn this into an attack against his personal beliefs.
      
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      March 25, 2025 11:01am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        It gets a bit sickening, was he supposed to tell the Indians who would have set his diary of events to stick your god up ya ass or something😊
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:15am
      - Swifty
        
        I agree with you but I would add that Modi pointedly refuses to bow down or wear any head covering at any mosque – and I’d add that Islamic leaders never bow at Indian temples etc.
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:17am
      - Ghost
        
        He does however visit churches not of his belief system, im sure we will see chuck attack Modi for for participating in a catholic event?
        
        https://www.news18.com/india/lighting-candles-watering-plants-pm-modi-celebrates-easter-in-delhis-church-offer-prayers-7506385.html
        
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        March 25, 2025 11:41am
      - kowtow
        
        G
        
        Do you really think that these foreign visit events are suddenly sprung on unsuspecting visiting dignitaries as some sort of ambush to embarras them .
        
        No sireee , these things are thrashed out to the last detail , behind the scenes , months out .
        So there’s no misunderstanding , no “bad optics” etc
        
        You can be sure that the PM and his aides etc were well and truly in the picture , intent , optics and all .
        
        It reminds me of the French protestant aspirant king who is said to have said ” Paris is worth a Mass”.
        
        Anyway , given swifty’s view about what Modi will or won’t do , that’s even more telling.
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:26pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes they do, same as people going to temples around the world, tourists go things in other countries they will never do again, ffs he is trying to get a tariff free trade deal, but oh he is religious ffs
      
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      March 25, 2025 11:13am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Presumably the more unusual photo ops are discussed and agreed upon by both sides in case there are issues- especially religious issues.
      Luxon would have had a say, clearly he said yes.
      
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      March 25, 2025 12:15pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Why the would he not, I seem to remember Key wearing stupid clothing and having coloured dots on his forehead .
        
        But I get it, the organised Act supporters have to do dirty work like what Te Media pardi do
        
        [Mod – tone it down please]
        
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        March 25, 2025 7:03pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        [Mod – tone it down please G]
        
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        March 25, 2025 7:04pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Not sure of your point G.
        As I said, it was prearranged and Luxon was willing. I couldn’t care less what he worships or the reasons, that’s his business.
        
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        March 25, 2025 9:48pm
    - PurplePen
      
      Agree. I was brought up Catholic and when entering our church would always genuflect, dip hand in holy water font and make the sign of the cross on myself. But I would never expect anyone who wasn’t Catholic to do that. It just wouldn’t make sense.
      
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      March 25, 2025 1:02pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Purple: I too survived a Catholic upbringing. I went to a Catholic funeral up here in Tonga a while ago. To my amusement, I found myself genuflecting before I took my seat! I drew the line at holy water and the wafer.
        
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        March 25, 2025 2:16pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    It beats twerking in rainbow colours as another certain leader did I guess
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:11am
  - BeaB
    
    Just what we do to esteemed visitors. Make them put on a feather cloak and have half-naked men waving spears and pulling faces at them. Many of these visitors struggle to keep a straight face at such absurd antics.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:23am
    - kowtow
      
      All depends on what the visiting dignitary is prepared to put up with .
      
      Recall when I believe it was Shipley as PM ( could be wrong) and a visiting Chinese Pres (?) said take away all those NZ citizens expressing their universal human rights to publicly and peacefully protest cos I don’t like it.
      
      Nek minnit , buses and Cops clear ’em all away .
      
      “Free” trade has a price . And if it means NZ freedoms can be so publically abused without any recourse , well so be it .
      
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      March 25, 2025 1:31pm
      - Jethrod
        
        That must have been the time Russel Norman had to ask for his flag back, was most affronted when he didn’t.
        
        [Mod – use correct nanes]
        
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        March 25, 2025 5:12pm
      - MCōs
        
        I expect you are referring to the time he was part of a pro Tibet protest outside a reception for some high powered Chinese delegation.
        The Chinese weren’t too happy (& no doubt neither were Federated Farmers, Fonterra, etc) so they were shuffled along
        Free speech has its limits
        
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        March 25, 2025 6:43pm
- Scott
  
  Chuck, like you I was disturbed at the footage of the prime minister bowing down to a foreign God. Some may not care but from a Christian point of view we take that very seriously.
  We’re praying for our prime minister every week at our prayer meeting. 🙏
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:28am
- cmm
  
  Chuck, he will see this as acknowledging their culture.
  
  I think there are far more valid things to kick Luxon in the balls over than this.
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:20am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Name a few, please.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:55am
    - cmm
      
      No doubt your checklist is different to mine.
      
      I really don’t care about a person’s religion, their skin colour, accent, what they have in their pants or what they choose to do with it.
      
      Just give me competence and clear freemarket policies.
      
      I do understand that for some people, some factor such as religion or skin colour is the only box they care about, but I think if you do so you sell yourself short.
      
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      March 25, 2025 12:28pm
      - PurplePen
        
        Or what they have in their dress too.
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:03pm
      - Chuck Bird
        
        You did not mention Luxon’s other religion – climate change hysteria. That affects our farmers and of course our economy.
        
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        March 25, 2025 1:38pm
- Prince
  
  When you are a guest, you show respect.
  It’s just basic manners. Ask your mum.
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:27am
  - kowtow
    
    I don’t think that’s the point at all.
    
    When you invite people over you don’t shove things in their face .
    
    But obviously , as said above , all will have been agreed plenty before hand .
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:33pm
  - Scott
    
    About 10 years ago I was doing a paper at Massey University on religion and as part of our studies we went to the university mosque. Prior to the visit I clarified whether we would have to bow down in the Muslim fashion to Allah? The lecturer said no, we could just sit cross legged on the floor at the back of the room and that would be fine. That’s what we did.
    
    It surprised me that Luxon didn’t take the same approach? We would not require a Hindu visitor to NZ to cross themselves when visiting a Catholic Church or take communion in a church or recite the Lord’s prayer.
    
    I’m surprised that Luxon didn’t draw the line at bowing to foreign gods when he’s a Christian himself? Whatever other peoples thoughts on the issue, Christians should not bow down to any other God and every Christian knows that.
    
    While I support Luxon in the area of trade agreements, the bowing to foreign gods is a miss for me. Also I’m worried that we are going to see more of an increase in immigration from India? I like Indian people, however the numbers are too much for our small population in my opinion.
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:38pm
    - cmm
      
      There’s a bunch of power play and “kissing the ring” happening here.
      
      NZ is a tiny player and Indians are thin skinned and like to be acknowledged. The best way to do that is to show some deference to their religion.
      
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      March 25, 2025 2:33pm
- MCōs
  
  If he doesn’t swallow the odd dead rat he can see the free trade agreement slip through his fingers
  It wasn’t some sort of human sacrifice
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:55am
  - David Garrett
    
    MCos: Good point.They didn’t even slaughter a goat!
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:12pm
    - kowtow
      
      But definitely not a cow.
      
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      March 25, 2025 1:34pm
  - kowtow
    
    No , the horrible white imperialists put an end to that .
    
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    March 25, 2025 1:35pm
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The Green’s environment spokeswoman, Lan Pham, called today’s (RMA) announcement … it was reported.

Has anyone ever heard of Pham let alone any noise at all from the Green Party on the environment?
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- David Garrett
  
  Purple. Back in my time the entire Green caucus were spokespeople for different aspects of the environment! The fact that they now have ONE unknown as a designated spokesman for the environment speaks volumes.
  
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  March 25, 2025 10:40am
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    Back in your time it was possible to have a coherent, civil, and often fruitful, discussion with a Greenie even if you were in vigorous disagreement.
    
    I had many insightful discussions with Nándor Tánczos and those that came before him. I doubt it would be at all possible with anyone from the last 10 or so years.
    
    The last one I really had anything to do with was Mojo Mathers. Massively confrontational even just trying to have a basic conversation.
    
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    March 25, 2025 11:57am
    - NothingLeft
      
      If you want to understand how modern greens think just imagine a sane, caring person, and take away the reason and accountability.
      
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      March 25, 2025 12:43pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Nothing: You pinched that line from “As good as is gets”! A great movie. A lover of mine at the time suggested I should change my name to Melvin.
        
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        March 25, 2025 2:23pm
    - PurplePen
      
      Mathers was the party’s only hearing impaired MP, and didn’t last too long. I’m being provocative, but you would think that a party that shouts all the time from its pulpit about diversity and the need for representation reflecting the nation make-up that they would have more deaf, blind, dumb or physically disabled. Instead, their focus seems to be diversity of race and sex only.
      
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      March 25, 2025 1:10pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Cmm: Yes…given her short career perhaps Ms Mathers pissed off her colleagues equally.
      
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      March 25, 2025 1:14pm
      - cmm
        
        I wouldn’t be surprised. She always seemed irritable and seemed to take deliberate offence at anything.
        
        Certainly nothing there to endear her to voters.
        
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        March 25, 2025 2:43pm
    - Jethrod
      
      She would just turn a blind ear!
      
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      March 25, 2025 5:15pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Isn’t she or wasn’t she part of the deluded greenie council as well at one stage?
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:16am
- Mike
  
  I’d be surprised if anyone could name 50 current from memory.
  
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  March 25, 2025 11:56am
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    Because there aren’t that many, I can only think of Red, Black and White Currents. Unless you want them broken down to scientific varieties in which case I’ll need google.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:54pm
- Conservatarian
  
  I couldn’t help but notice Lan Pham’s name and wonder at its origins.
  
  From https://www.greens.org.nz/lan_pham:
  
  Lan is of Vietnamese, Irish and English heritage from Christchurch and born in Wellington.
  
  I wonder why her dad left Vietnam? Must have been all that freedom and wealth and small government.
  
  She has a Masters from Otago in Freshwater Ecology and has worked for DOC and the Working Waters Trust plus two terms served on Environment Canterbury (the Regional Council). Then a RMA Commissioner and an Independent Freshwater Commissioner.
  
  Her bio then cites a series of shibboleths for far leftists: voting to opposing deep sea oil and gas drilling because “climate emergency”, voting for appointing two Ngāi Tahu Councillors, more subsidies for bus fares, living wage and to “create an Aotearoa where people and environment flourish under Te Tiriti.”
  
  Very easy on the eye but. She will be a pretty face and an authoritarian. A perfect avatar for progressivism (social justice socialism)
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:05pm
BeaB

Corrin Dann in his element this morning. No useful questioning about the RMA changes. Just excitedly ‘Who owns water’? Why can’t RNZ employ interviewers who seek out information, elicit details, help to elucidate? The stupid gotchas and dog whistles (privatisation!) have me switching off.
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March 25, 2025 11:26am
Ghost

Proposed changes to the electorates released.

Wellington is set to lose an electorate as a result of boundary changes proposed by the independent Representation Commission.

The Ōhāriu, Mana and Ōtaki seats are set to be removed with two new electorates named Kenepuru and Kapiti created instead.

This affects Labour’s Greg O’Connor who is the MP for Ōhāriu, Labour’s finance spokesperson Barbara Edmonds, MP for Mana, and National MP for Ōtaki Tim Costley.

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March 25, 2025 12:01pm
- PurplePen
  
  Interesting piece of information I picked up with work over the years, related to electoral boundaries. In wellington there’s a retirement accommodation building halfway up ngauranga gorge where the electoral ward boundary goes down the hallway. There was also a grove in Tawa or somewhere there where the end half of grove belonged to Porirua council and the entrance half belonged to Tawa. If a street light went out you had to ring the correct council to get it fixed.
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:17pm
- Mobile Michael
  
  Ohariu is the one that is gone. The southern end (Khandallah, Ngaio, Crofton Downs and Wadestown) is now in Wellington and the northern end (Johnsonville and Tawa) is now in Mana – now named Kenepuru.
  
  Otaki drops Levin but picks up Paraparaumu – hardly a radical change.
  
  I’d say that Greg O’Connor will retire at the next election and Nicola Willis will stand in Wellington Central – although in the booths of the suburbs that are moving into Wellington O’Connor narrowly won so I don’t think it will help her.
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:24pm
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    It’ll help – National came out in front in Ohariu in the party vote in 2023. Greg O’Connor is one of the last worthwhile Labour MPs and but for him they’d have lost the seat.
    
    I don’t know if National can actually pick up the new seat but the Greens probably can’t either, given that Rongotai will be annexing Te Aro and Mount Cook.
    
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    March 25, 2025 3:09pm
    - MCōs
      
      Pretty shortly someone with time on their hands will analyze polling booth data from the last election and figure it all out
      
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      March 25, 2025 5:13pm
    - Prince
      
      I don’t agree re O’Connor but it is notable that he won the seat while the electorate voted National.
      Given the usual ‘Govt cut my job’ vibe in Wgton O’Connor would likely win again, unless Labour decide to helicopter in a more useful unionist/beehive staffer.
      
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      March 25, 2025 9:33pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Looked at Costleys’s area, I would think he would still win Kapiti
  
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  March 25, 2025 7:11pm
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Bay of Plenty disappears and Tauranga has taken half of it up to Coromandel but lost the Mount to a new electorate.
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March 25, 2025 12:20pm
Surely Knott

Non-verbal Girl who turns out to be 11 with autism found on the railings of the bridge. Taken to hospital and handcuffed and given antipsychotics. Whoever reported it mis aged the girl as 20. Focus is on Police not telling ministers. Luxon expresses sympathy to the family.

But the weird bit is the girl was on the bridge railings at 6 am and her mother notifies police she is missing at 6pm?!!

Why the heck did it take 12 hours for the parent to report their extreme special needs child missing. A minor with no language and eratic behaviour that could be mistaken as psychotic wouldn’t be a child that you would let go play in the neighbourhood for 12 hours without supervision.

Seems there were many things that went wrong here.
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March 25, 2025 12:50pm
- Blog-aholic
  
  Such is the quality of parental responsibility in the new country known as Aotearoa……
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:00pm
- imalwaysright
  
  I see Matt Doocey is pissed off that an eleven year old was administered harmful drugs.
  
  Its a start, Matt…
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:34pm
  - peterwn
    
    And he is even more pissed off that his officials did not have the courtesy to let him and Simeon know in a timely manner.
    Chris Hipkins says Labour is not going to politicise it. Not surprising, if they did, it would blow up in their faces.
    If the Government does not offer compensation (which they most probably will), a judge would order compensation for ‘unlawful detention’ which is a ‘strict liability’ matter ie those responsible cannot claim it was a ‘mistake’ to avoid liability.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:16pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Appreciate your points peterwyn, but I was having a dig at Doocey and his involvement in the continuing administering of puberty blockers to kiwi children.
      https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/citizen-science-matt-doocey-doubles-down-on-trans-healthcare
      
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      March 25, 2025 3:36pm
- kowtow
  
  Front page of the Herald .
  
  At least it’s not a school lunch story .
  
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  March 25, 2025 1:38pm
- AitchW
  
  Is mis aging as serious as mis gendering?
  (Or should that be Ms gendering)?
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:33pm
- Prince
  
  We thought that was odd also, but you can’t expect TVNZ or any media to ask the obvious questions of the ‘caregiver’.
  Instead it’s the usual…
  Bad Police
  Bad Health system
  Bad Government
  
  Next time, just leave the girl there and go on your way.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:29pm
herb1

Surprisingly there’s no discussion of US Sec Def Hegseth sharing war plans on an insecure unauthorised Social media platform, with a journalist,by mistake.
Calling it Amateur hour is unfair on amateurs .
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March 25, 2025 12:54pm
- Vidar
  
  Discredited already.
  
  From the same “journalist” who came up with the
  
  “Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’” Article.
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:19pm
  - herb1
    
    No not discredited, you just made that up. It’s sad when self styled intelligent people can’t believe anything negative about Trump or his associates. The text was sent 15 minutes before the attack. You normally wait till after the attack to do the high fives
    
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    March 25, 2025 3:31pm
- Mike
  
  Elect a clown; expect a circus.
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:27pm
  - Conservatarian
    
    A circus you say? Democrats certainly would know about bearded women.
    
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    March 25, 2025 2:51pm
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      An odd comment.
      
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      March 25, 2025 6:54pm
- cmm
  
  Was it plans?
  
  All I say was some congratulations over bombing the Houthis.
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:38pm
  - herb1
    
    Try reading the numerous articles in world media and then I won’t need to correct you
    
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    March 25, 2025 3:34pm
- Bevan
  
  NEWSFLASH: Government employees use messaging platform to communicate!
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:58pm
  - herb1
    
    Newsflash discussing secret military plans or any other Government plans isn’t done on social media. How quickly people forget the attacks on Hilary Clinton for messaging on a private email system.
    
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    March 25, 2025 3:33pm
    - Bevan
      
      When I posted that Id assumed they were using a controlled messaging system and not be that dumb they would use something publicly available.
      
      I forgot sensible, Vance and Hegseth dont belong in the same sentence.
      
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      March 25, 2025 5:25pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Hegseth was on Fox saying what the so called journalist who has had several examples of making shit up is wrong, and no one put anything of what she was saying on social media
      
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      March 25, 2025 7:18pm
- MCōs
  
  Here’s a BBC article on the subject
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy4v3ndg28jo
  Some fool tries to blame the reporter who was inadvertently copied into the correspondence
  I suppose that’s what you do when admitting an error is out of the question
  
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  March 25, 2025 5:03pm
Vidar

Another day brings another win for the “Dangerous’ and unhinged” President Trump.

Trump, Hyundai Announce $21 Billion U.S. Investment, with $5.8 Billion for Louisiana Steel Mill

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/24/trump-hyundai-announce-21-billion-u-s-investment-with-5-8-billion-for-louisiana-steel-mill/
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- Conservatarian
  
  So much winning. I’m getting sick of all this winning.
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:52pm
- MCōs
  
  Amazing what the threat of crippling tariffs can do
  
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  March 25, 2025 4:47pm
cmm

Maggy leaves town for a few days and the Gizzy gangs get out of control.

“Police were working with gang leaders to ease tensions…”

No cops you have it wrong. Don’t “work with them”. Apply boot to neck.

This limp-wristed policing by consent just makes police weaker and gangs stronger. Get your mates in there and rough them all up. Make it extremely unpleasant to have anything to do with gangs. Hassle everything and everyone associated in any way with gangs or gang-like behaviour.

Got a tattoo? Making a noise with a bike? Generally loitering? Hassle, hassle, hassle.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360627608/gang-tensions-escalate-gisborne-very-real-threat-public-police-say
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March 25, 2025 2:23pm
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: Quite so. I posted something very similar over on another thread where our Maggy had commented.
  
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  March 25, 2025 2:26pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Gangs are allowed a higher threshold of antisocial and criminal behaviour before the police will enforce the law.
  
  Meanwhile peaceful citizens, such as the KB contributor who was arrested for disturbing the peace by holding up a piece of paper, or the man in wellington who was arrested for arguing against abortion, don’t.
  
  It seems the police have plenty of power when they want to, yet they need to implement special warrants or ask for more legislation when it comes to gangs.
  Its all back to front.
  
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  March 25, 2025 3:30pm
  - Steve Otto N Shore
    
    First sentence – why?
    Are the Police scared?
    
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    March 25, 2025 5:52pm
MCōs

Yesterday we went for a drive to Ayuddaya, the previous capital of Siam until it was overrun by the Burmese forcing the centre of government to relocate down the Chao Phraya River to Bangkok.
The air was so thick with pollution we practically needed a snow plough on the car.
One of the big problems is farmers all across Thailand, Cambodia, Laos burning crops. Plus cars and street cooking and lack of wind and rain.
Cars are expensive, utes are cheap, housing is very cheap and motorbikes are very cheap.
My wife now has a constant cough. Her son and sister also had coughs when the air was really bad. I’ve escaped so far.
Apart from that it’s a great country with lovely beachs and wonderful people! In all the years I’ve been here nobody has ever told me to bugger off back to NZ or been condescending when I struggle with the local language
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March 25, 2025 2:47pm
- MCōs
  
  Here’s a wee clip I took yesterday for all you carbon diehards
  https://x.com/bsukon/status/1904433719211094224?s=46&t=XZLqGbhN-xeYzprhTaktsg
  
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  March 25, 2025 8:26pm
  - Ghost
    
    We have to have our windows closed on fine days at the moment down here because of the damn farm burn offs. Not even wasting time putting on the line, it just goes straight into the dryer
    
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    March 25, 2025 8:32pm
Ghost

Didn’t feel a thing here

Strong 6.7 magnitude earthquake hits bottom of South Island
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March 25, 2025 3:36pm
Steve Otto N Shore

NZCPR.
Dr Muriel Newman.

The Lifeblood of Progress.

https://www.nzcpr.com/the-lifeblood-of-progress/#more-40567

Let’s go Nuclear but in the meantime dig up some coal and build a few coal power stations. It is a no brainer not to.
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March 25, 2025 3:37pm
- Prince
  
  While I see Nuclear as the answer to the world’s Energy problems, I would be very concerned if NZ went down that path.
  We have a history of stuffing up just about everything requiring engineering and process disciplines.
  I have no confidence our workforce could manage a Nuclear substation without taking a few shortcuts, falling asleep at the wheel, or appointing some shyster as CEO.
  
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  March 25, 2025 9:20pm
imalwaysright

Looks like Red Bull have sacked Liam Lawson from their Formula One team.

https://thejudge13.com/2025/03/24/lawson-sacked/
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- Albie
  
  Obviously a huge setback for Liam and his family. I know Drive to Survive is a drama series, but I can’t help but get the impression there is a level of arrogance with young Liam that I don’t see with George Russell and some of the other drivers? I hope I am wrong.
  
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  March 25, 2025 6:00pm
- Sponge
  
  While it’s entirely possible he will get sacked that website is not one I would rely on. They also said Doohan has been sacked and a quick look through their previous predictions show they report as fact whatever the current rumor happens to be.
  
  Try The-race.com They have a lot of insiders who make some really informed and detailed comment.
  
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  March 25, 2025 6:09pm
- herb1
  
  Try newsnowf1.com it has all the updated f1 articles and nothing about Liam being sacked other than speculation it could happen. Red Bull we’ll know that another driver may simply have the same problems
  
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  March 25, 2025 6:16pm
Ghost

Wow, someone actually wants stuff……

Online auction and classifieds site Trade Me may be set to announce a purchase of its own – potentially one of the biggest in its 26-year history – with speculation of the full or part acquisition of Stuff’s digital arm, including the Stuff news website.Media Insider understands the two companies have been in talks for what would represent a bold digital media move and a potentially lucrative payday for Stuff chief executive Sinead Boucher, who bought Stuff for just $1 in 2020.A deal between Trade Me and Stuff – while not yet confirmed and which might yet be subject to Commerce Commission consideration – could be announced in the next fortnight, according to sources.

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Maybe the deal will be announced on april 1st
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- Blog-aholic
  
  Might explain why she became the sole shareholder of 1,000,000 shares…..very nice payday…..
  (wink, wink).
  
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  March 25, 2025 5:03pm
Ghost

President Donald Trump is imposing a 25% ‘Secondary’ tariff on Venezuela, and a 25% tariff on “any Country that purchases Oil and/or Gas from Venezuela,” payable to the United States “on any Trade they do with our Country.”

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Problem when the next person shoots trump is there will be so many countries who could be responsible…..
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