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Southern Raider

And the “globalise the infitada” movement has just been shown what that actually means.

On the holiest day of the year for Jews once again a Muslim kills innocent Jews observing their religious holiday at a synagogue.

Starmer and others must carry this blood on their hands for enabling the massive rise and acceptability of anti semitic protests over last two years.
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October 3, 2025 8:10am
- kowtow
  
  How much political capital has UK Labour spent on trying to silence the British public with coming up with a definition of “Islamophobia”.
  
  Another issue is are the Tehran Mullahs behind any of this international terror. They have been in Germany and Australia.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:13am
- lastmanstanding
  
  I hope the Minister of Defence listened closely to the US Secretary of War Department when he called out Woke and DEI. This has cost NZ taxpayers over $100 million in one case and many millions in other cases. Over the past few decades the NZDF standards have been lowered to allow totally unsuitable candidates to secure roles rather than the best person for the job.
  In wartime Woke and DEI wont cut it. Both will be defeated by the best military.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:22am
  - R
    
    Woke and DEI policies are the root cause of many of our NZ economic and social problems. As a ex military person, I have been appalled at the lowering of standards within the military, a deliberate policy of Comrade Clark. The obsession with marae and maorification is a contributory factor to the countries problems
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:50am
    - RoboRob
      
      We dont have to look far for examples either. See the All blacks performance dropping away as the RFU has become more and more woke. I’m not a Foster fan boi but his treatment by the NZFRU was disgusting. Talk about caring progressives.
      
      Look at the Netball. The back office and players have embraced wokeness to the point of a group of players being able to fire the coach. Then the caring progressive board don’t even bother to deal with the coach. It’s a joke.
      
      In high performance sports the players work hard to get in and stay in the team. They are not in a position of power, knowing if they don’t toe the line they are out and someone better is in. This level of competition for spots provides sporting excellence. The coach is always to top dog, you don’t argue with them and the board always have the coaches back, not the players.
      
      In woke sports, everyone is equal and the focus is on not offending people. All concerns and opinions are equal. Coaches and players are on the same level. If the players don’t like the coach, they are gone. Its exactly backwards, where the coaches performance is on the line and the players the decision makers. The result is poor performance and a revolving door of coaches.
      
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      October 3, 2025 12:52pm
      - Paulus
        
        DEI still the most important thing that has transformed top Sports in Aotearoa.
        
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        October 3, 2025 1:55pm
- Eastlander
  
  Has anyone asked Peter Davis whether these Jews ‘reaped what they sowed’?
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:06am
kowtow

Ti legacy media are making a bigly deal about “kiwis” detained in the Hamas Huggers celebrity , gay hating Med cruise .

Last night HDPA interviewed the concerned kiwi dad of one of these socialist stooges .

She didn’t mention , though he did , that they are “catholic anarchists”

Google search throws up Dad was one of the Waihopi attackers.

Surely NZME should have disclosed that . These are not ordinary “kiwis” and ti media know it.
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October 3, 2025 8:13am
- R
  
  NZME should have……..such a honest move does not support the MSM agenda
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:04am
  - kowtow
    
    Update.
    
    stuff and 3 “news” have done a report on “kidnapped” young Leason with proud Dad giving opinion.
    
    Er , no mention of exactly what Dad’s background is.
    
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    October 3, 2025 11:45am
- Southern Raider
  
  I was thinking within knowing specifics that the Dad was behind this all along.
  
  No way an 18 year old is organising and funding their trip to the other side of the world.
  
  That detail about Waihopai is critical information that the media should have covered
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:11am
- Colville
  
  Was the father calling for equality of treatment for his son who has been kidnapped by the evil Jews [Mod – use the correct word].?
  Will they beat him, rape him, kill him, drag his body through the streets ?
  I mean, the Israeli’s should treat this kid with the same respect as Hamas showed the children kidnapped on October 7.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:14am
- oldpark
  
  @kowtow
  Agree with what you said ,
  Came across a comparison v Leaston Comments
  on TVNZ .
  Contrast:” The Silence That Speaks”
  “When 1,200 Israeli civilians were murdered on October 7—families burned alive, children executed—where were the vigils? Where were the flotillas?” Nuff Said.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:49am
- Handyman
  
  “Armed men just came and took us away as hostages. It is illegal and immoral”
  OK, so now you are concerned about hostages?
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:57am
  - bjools
    
    My comments to the boy.
    Then we will expect to see you in 700 days after being starved and beaten, and held in a hole in the ground.
    All while a full on war rages above your head.
    Only in the name of equivalency, you understand?
    
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    October 3, 2025 11:36am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Equity, innit
      
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      October 3, 2025 2:27pm
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  My daughter just asked me about the New Zealand man who’s “just been kidnapped” in Israel. I said no he’s a nut job protester who got captured.
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:01am
- rouppe
  
  Didn’t take long for me to realise the father was “all in” on his sons actions. So no sympathy from me.
  
  He also mentioned Israelis previously sinking boats and shooting people in the water. Did that actually happen?
  
  I know one of the first boardings resulted in loss of life as it was an airborne affair and the boats crew were armed. But there was no “shooting people in the water” that I recall.
  
  The media are pumping this international waters thing. There is a blockade. Everyone knows this. Everyone knows about this flotilla and their goal. So intercepting them early is reasonable. The alternative is a rush for the line and chaos. What would the narrative be then?
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:46am
- RoboRob
  
  Ironically the dad also let it slip that the protestors get the choice of being held ‘captive’ or returned home and that his son (and others) chose to be held captive. Now our MSM reports that kiwis are held captive when in reality that was their choice.
  
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  October 3, 2025 12:55pm
  - bjools
    
    Holiday in an Israeli prison.
    Not the accommodation I would choose,but each to his own.
    
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    October 3, 2025 1:51pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      I think the IDF treat these clowns with kid gloves. They make them look like idiots a bit (not hard) them put them on the next plane out.
      
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      October 3, 2025 6:31pm
  - AitchW
    
    If you choose captivity over returning home then are you a captive? Or just an unwelcome guest?
    And if you choose captivity over returning home then is it fair to assume you have a truly awful home life?
    
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    October 3, 2025 2:35pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Hilarious….
  
  So what YOUR Dad did 17 years ago should be reported when you do something that ends up being reported in the media.?????
  
  What was ? ? Seymour? John Tamahere ?? name any media figures father doing 17 years ago when they get reported on some decision they made?
  
  My Mum had a great phrase If I ever got excited like this… “Grow up””
  
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  October 3, 2025 3:22pm
Scott

Well colour me surprised. After an attack on a synagogue in the UK where a man stabs people and has a suicide vest on, we wonder about the identity of the attacker? What could possibly be his motive? It’s such a mystery??

Thankfully the Daily Mail eventually enlightens us when we find out, to our utter surprise, that the attacker was an islamist and it was a terror attack! Who would have thunk it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15157191/Suicide-belt-Manchester-attacker-Islamist-terrorist.html

There are lessons for us of course. Import the 3rd world and you get the 3rd world. Let’s not import the 3rd world. 🤔
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October 3, 2025 8:15am
- R
  
  Too late Scott, Comrade Clarke set this process in concrete; it is going to take a strong willed responsible nation, and Media to change the situation
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:06am
- Cassandra
  
  I totally agree. The immigration agency should vet every person coming here very carefully. I’d go further and stop any Moslem until he or she could prove that they will integrate with NZ values.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:11am
  - rockape
    
    Easy, just show every immigrant a cartoon of Mohammad having sex with a goat. If they laugh they are welcome, if they throw a tantrum deport them.
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:42am
    - cmm
      
      What do you do if they ask if NZ has goats?
      
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      October 3, 2025 9:47am
      - R
        
        Tell them to spend an hour watching TV1 News, or listening to RNZ talkback programmes
        
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        October 3, 2025 9:53am
      - Colville
        
        https://www.doc.govt.nz/news/events/national-events/national-wild-goat-hunting-competition/?utm_source=programmatic&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=goat-hunt25&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22856481730&gbraid=0AAAAA-HJsvTDfLfAs_lWJYmF4a9UQAkCe&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI79mY5ruGkAMV_5BLBR0HBxIIEAAYASAAEgLsGfD_BwE
        
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        October 3, 2025 10:34am
    - Handyman
      
      Seriously though. One of the questions should be ” do you agree Israel has the right to peaceful existence?”
      
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      October 3, 2025 2:17pm
      - rockape
        
        A lot of kiwi born citizens would fail that test.
        
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        October 3, 2025 4:09pm
  - cmm
    
    Clearly the effort has been reversed – change NZ values to be accepting of Muslims and scream racism at anyone who raises a peep.
    
    I would also not view Muslims as a homogenous group. There is plenty animosity between different Muslims. Think Irish Catholics vs Protestants then crank up the heat significantly.
    
    I recently took a taxi ride with a Muslim bloke who said that the Taliban had murdered his uncle and some other family members. He said he stays well clear of the Al Noor mosque and fears for his life if he was to go there. He said that all the inter-tribal/sect animosities had been imported into NZ, but are still relatively low-key.
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:45am
    - Philview
      
      I can think of a few Muslims I engage with in various settings and I find them likeable. A couple are from Iran and are highly intelligent and don’t hold back in slagging off the Iranian theocracy. There is another chap who is a Palestinian from Jordan. He has joked to me that he feels he gets viewed with suspicion as an Arab but all he wants is to do well in his job, send his kids to a good school like everybody else in New Zealand. These are examples of people mixing in.
      
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      October 3, 2025 10:00am
      - ISeeRed
        
        Sure. They’ll say pleasant things to your face. They’re nice in small numbers. You have no idea what they really think or say behind closed doors among themselves. Once they reach critical mass, their in-group preference kicks in and their religion, ethnicity and culture becomes precedent. That goes for any immigrant who makes a big show of being friendly and not being like “the others”. Human nature and the tribal instinct take over once any group feel they can start asserting themselves and dominating others. The downfall of the West is thanks to nice, tolerant, naive white people.
        
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        October 3, 2025 2:13pm
      - kiwimike
        
        Maybe
        But you don’t know till after Friday Sermon …..
        
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        October 3, 2025 5:15pm
    - Tom Hunter
      
      San Diego Imam Uthman ibn Farooq in Birmingham, UK Lecture: The Future Is Ours – Every “Nightmare of a Muslim Europe Will Come True”; America and Russia Will Be Muslim Countries.
      
      A fair bit of boasting, especially with the USA and Russia, but while I would have dismissed this twenty years ago for Britain and Europe I can no longer do so.
      
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      October 3, 2025 1:27pm
  - R
    
    Perhaps require them to have a half hour conversation about NZ sports teams; would work, since most of them are coming here for the welfare, and the opportunity to establish a caliphate
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:57am
    - Taieri
      
      most of them are coming here for the welfare
      ————
      
      How many of them are actually on welfare?
      
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      October 3, 2025 1:05pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Would be good to know. Also those that have multiple wives and families. IIRC, we imported some as refugees. I’m guessing the “Working” for Families payment is considerable.
        
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        October 3, 2025 2:31pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Vetting Muslim immigrants is pointless.
    
    Even the most pro west, tolerant, and long term integrated Muslim can be pressured by their own to commit any crime they see fit.
    
    Their fear of each other far outweighs their fear of us and our security services; their “brothers” will threaten them and their families, and they know there is no escape.
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:24am
  - Paulus
    
    They can lie too to get here !~
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:31am
  - Notsofast
    
    They never integrate their minds.
    
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    October 3, 2025 2:16pm
- Paulus
  
  Are we cautious enough or is it getting close to too late ?
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:14am
  - igm
    
    Hipkins would open the gates to islamists and fete’ them as did Ardern. They seem to be integrating very well with maori gangs so Willie will be happy. Appears gaols are a good place for recruiting new mosque members.
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:27am
- NothingLeft
  
  far right lone wolf with unknown motive in a mostly peaceful stabbing. – the BBC /s
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:42am
- Ra Henare
  
  I continue to believe that the main cause of this offence is
  PPPP Piss Poor Politicians Pandering.
  
  A gazillion example in the UK, from ignoring the Rape Gangs, to light sentences due to unfortunate blah blah backgrounds.
  
  Keep in mind that radicalisation can happen anywhere. eg Boston Bombers.
  
  Examples happen in NZ as well.
  The Christchurch massage (Not a Muslim)
  
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  October 3, 2025 3:27pm
kowtow

Overshadowed today by the dreadful news of yet another terror attack in Manchester is the media driven moral panic of some Met staff saying hurty words . Shock horror.

Their Met boss has even called it criminal and vile behaviour.
Racism , misogyny and Islamophobia! How terrible.

Yet the media and police ignored for decades , literally , true criminal and vile behaviour by members of a certain community towards vulnerable girls , comment about whose attackers might now get you a knock on the door from the same Plod .

And that synagogue attack won’t have been committed by a Jehova’s Witness .
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October 3, 2025 8:22am
- lifesgood
  
  That half witted, poorly educated, talk show host, Travers, was apoplectic when a caller mentioned the attacker might be what we all think he was. Of course, Travers hates Israel with a passion. The sooner Newstalk gets rid of him the better. I only turn him on to put me back to sleep, most of his callers are cranks.
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:12am
  - Kaiser Wilhelm
    
    His antisemitism is so overt I truly wonder if his bosses even know what he’s broadcasting.
    
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    October 3, 2025 1:00pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    I wonder if people like him are hired as a type of clickbait. Rile people (your usual conservative audience) up with a stubbornly juvenile world view to increase “engagement”. LBC in the UK has a couple of insufferable ****s like that.
    
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    October 3, 2025 6:38pm
Boy Geoff

Interesting to hear Meka Whaitiri bemoaning the Toitu te Tiriti and Te Pati Maori spat yesterday.

She seemed to say that Maori politics was full of whanau and iwi divisions and that basically, Maori don’t always get on with each other. That’s amazing – I would never have known.
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October 3, 2025 8:37am
- AitchW
  
  There’s no way a “Maori” party could survive any more than a “European New Zealander” or a “Left Handers” party would.
  Eventually it’ll seperate into left and right, conservative and liberal, woke and pragmatic.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:42am
Gravelroad

Family member went to ACT public meeting last night.
Returned frustrated with the event which was held in a large hall with lots of people present.
At the end of his talk, Mr Seymour invited questions from the floor.
No microphone available for the questions so impossible to hear what was said.
Waste of time.
This is 2025. Would like to think that a political party holding a meeting at which the party’s leader was the star turn, could at least ensure all present could hear and understand what was said during question time.
The responses from Mr Seymour could be heard, but not the questions – not ideal.
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October 3, 2025 8:39am
- Unity
  
  I wish, in cases like ACTs meeting, that Seymour would repeat briefly what the person asking the question said, before he replies to it. I have found this problem at other meeetings. All the speaker has to do is repeat the question briefly before he answered, then we would all know what was going on. Surely it’s not hard?!
  
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  October 3, 2025 8:47am
  - kowtow
    
    He does. See my reply below.
    
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    October 3, 2025 8:58am
  - Local Miller
    
    Not only is it not hard, it’s good practice. By repeating the question the speaker shows they have listened to and understood the question, which shows respect to the public. It also makes sure the question is heard by everyone AND recorded, making it harder for future quotes of answers to be taken out of context.
    I think this is something all good (trained) public speakers should do.
    Personally I think anyone who wants to take up a position where they have to do a lot of public speaking, or even just speaking generally should join Toastmasters at least to complete the initial assignments. It would make a significant difference to the way they communicate.
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:06am
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      Repeating the question is also a good debating tactic to buy time to think of a well worded answer.
      
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      October 3, 2025 10:03am
- Nukuleka
  
  Maybe you could have politely asked that Mr Seymour repeat the question before answering it. He seems the sort of reasonable chap who would have obliged. Pretty petty post on your part, frankly.
  
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  October 3, 2025 8:47am
  - kowtow
    
    In those circumstances I find Seymour repeats the question for the rest of the audience to be in the picture. He’s a very experienced and polite public speaker , who works hard to engage with his potential voter base .
    In the face of huge opposition across the spectrum.
    
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    October 3, 2025 8:57am
  - R
    
    I would have thought that the ACT party would be professional enough to have had microphones and speakers present, as a matter of course. After all they are the pretenders to the throne. Also no mention of any input from the other two speakers(MP’s)
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:06am
  - Dougal10
    
    He is quoting hearsay so maybe no facts involved.
    
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    October 3, 2025 11:57am
- R
  
  The intention was to generate a significantly attended photo-op for Dear aspiring PM leader; not to hear about the economic and social aspirations of the voting masses
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:10am
  - kiwimike
    
    ok R got it
    know where you are now….
    
    downticks in future…..
    
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    October 3, 2025 5:21pm
- Colville
  
  Gravelroad.
  I have been to maybe 6 ACT meetings and all have been well organised. One where the Toitu te Tiriti nutters held things up a bit but otherwise good. We were not allowed to “assist” in helping them out!
  The questions at the end are usually a waste of time, single issue nutjobs monopolise the floor and wont shut up. Seymour is forced to be polite.
  Far better to sit in an aisle seat and talk to Seymour before the meeting when he is going around shaking hands.
  
  Well worth going if you get a chance no matter who you vote for.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:20am
- peterwn
  
  They should obtain a boom box and a couple of wireless microphones. Problem solved!
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:43am
  - Gary Benner
    
    As someone who has set up the systems for such meetings, while you can provide the technology, there are those in the audience that just stand up and ask their questions and don’t wait for the microphone – usually as they want to get in quick.
    
    The good speaker will repeat the question, or even paraphrase it as many questions asked tend not to be questions – often they are just statements – and the skill is in then creating the question (you want ) to answer.
    
    Winston Peters is a master of this, making the question his own before he replies!
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:59am
    - R
      
      Most people at public meetings are frightened of using a microphone, and don’t usually know how too. It’s not just a matter of talking in the mics general direction
      
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      October 3, 2025 11:55am
sungsamning

The $7,500 EV tax credit was one of many casualties resulting from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. While this bill was signed into law on July 4, the credit did not expire for several months, according to Forbes. However, as of October 1, these credits are no longer available, leading to questions about the future of this segment of the automotive industry. Most notably, the tax incidence for purchasing these vehicles shifts from the Federal government to the purchasers or the car manufacturers.
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October 3, 2025 8:39am
- Paulus
  
  Head this morning ten new Chinese made cars in the last few months.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:16am
  - fightingtemeraire
    
    FIVE Chinese car manufacturers saying that they are coming to NZ in the last two months. They must be hard up to sell as setting up dealership chains is not cheap.
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:26am
    - greybeard
      
      I think the correct term for this influx is “dumping”: I imagine there are millions of unsold Chinese EVs sitting on Chinese parking lots.
      
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      October 3, 2025 11:54am
      - RoboRob
        
        Which also explains the ridiculously low pricing.
        
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        October 3, 2025 1:04pm
      - sungsamning
        
        Yes, that’s right.
        
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        October 3, 2025 4:37pm
    - sungsamning
      
      Yes, lots of unsold inventory.
      
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      October 3, 2025 4:38pm
      - Hard Cheese
        
        Got a source for that?
        
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        October 3, 2025 10:58pm
sungsamning

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/10/02/president-trump-thanks-democrats-for-providing-unprecedented-opportunity-to-downsize-federal-government/
President Trump Thanks Democrats for Providing “Unprecedented Opportunity” to Downsize Federal Government.

Using his Truth Social account, President Donald Trump expresses his appreciation to radical leftists and Democrats for providing the “unprecedented opportunity,” within their government shutdown, to permanently downsize the federal government.

“I have a meeting today with Russ Vought, he of PROJECT 2025 Fame, to determine which of the many Democrat Agencies, most of which are a political SCAM, he recommends to be cut, and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent. I can’t believe the Radical Left Democrats gave me this unprecedented opportunity. They are not stupid people, so maybe this is their way of wanting to, quietly and quickly, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” [And some ‘government employees’ have rage quit over the shutdown.]
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October 3, 2025 8:40am
Chuck Bird

The ACT meeting yesterday evening, which included local body candidates, was very well attended. Many farmers were there and were happy with what Simon Court and Andrew Hoggard had to say. I hope everyone votes for local body candidates who are not left voters no to racist wards.
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October 3, 2025 8:44am
- R
  
  Reports don’t read at all like your version Chuck
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:12am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Source please. What reports?
    
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    October 3, 2025 11:35am
  - kiwimike
    
    yep R
    we get it !!
    carry on Chuck.
    tell us about the tea and coffee afterward.
    
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    October 3, 2025 5:23pm
  - JohnRidd
    
    I was there. I completely agree there was overwhelming support for what Hoggard and Court were saying.
    
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    October 3, 2025 8:42pm
- JohnRidd
  
  Hi Chuck.
  
  I was at that meeting in TK.
  My estimate was there were between 120 to 150 attending. A turnout that shows how much concern there is regarding Plan Change 1 (aka PC1).
  
  A lot of farmers there are in the Whangamarino catchment which means they will have trouble getting resource consent to continue farming if the PC1 is not modified or abandonned.
  
  There was a lone “Free Palestine” protestor outside when I arrived. Do they turn up to all Act events?
  
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  October 3, 2025 8:40pm
sirknz

White lefties celebrate telling ‘poor brown people’ that they are now safe from the evil (but totally legal and law abiding) immigrant business man who is selling booze.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360841639/community-wins-10-year-fight-close-bottle-store

Don’t worry, they only used a lot of taxpayer money for this.
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October 3, 2025 8:48am
- ISeeRed
  
  Meh. How does New Zealand benefit from yet another Indian-owned bottle store, vape shop and vegetable shop? They are guaranteed to employ only family or other Indians while they enjoy the benefits of our open tolerant society and welfare state, never mind the economic exploitation of the local economy siphoning off profits back “home”. This kind of foreign “investment” and predatory immigrants we can do without.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:50pm
mandk

Even though the police have not yet named the person responsible, it looks like a member of the “religion of peace” has carried out the attack on a Synagogue in Manchester on Yom Kippur.
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October 3, 2025 9:02am
Cassandra

I thought you might like this extract from a Telegraph article: “No one who gives even the smallest fig for honesty in public discourse can afford to look the other way as aid-promoting Israel is libelled and these self-promoting egotists on the high seas (the Thunberg flotilla) are celebrated. The only thing that was fed by Greta and the rest were their own already fat egos. Their long summer in the Med was an orgy of sanctimony masquerading as caring activism. What a relief this vain stunt has now been brought to an end following Israel’s interception of 39 boats last night.“
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October 3, 2025 9:08am
- cmm
  
  Yup, the real test of Greta’s conviction would be sailing in winter on a yacht with cabins and decks packed full of supplies so that there is nowhere to sit down comfortably.
  
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  October 3, 2025 9:19am
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    Greta went to the UN sailing on a carbon fibre yacht and wearing sailing gear made from oil. They had to fly two crew to the US to sail the boat back to Europe!!!
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:28am
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      ‘They had to fly two crew to the US to sail the boat back to Europe!!!’
      
      Now that really is an inconvenient truth.
      
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      October 3, 2025 11:27am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Even a tiny diesel powered coastal freighter would carry hundreds of times more cargo than you can fit in a bunch of sailboats. But that wouldn’t fit in with the global warming shtick. It must be hard having so many social causes that they get in each other’s way.
    
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    October 3, 2025 9:48am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Thunberg and her cronies know that the Israelis won’t let them near Gaza because they will be immediately kidnapped by the Hamas.
    
    They are actually depending on being intercepted by the IDF for their own safety.
    
    A real test of commitment would be that they actually land their boats on Gaza.
    Zero chance of that happening.
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:07am
- Raphael
  
  Indeed, just think the same money, etc., they could have spent the last month helping the Gaza Humanitarian Fund and Samaritan’s Purse on the ground helping deliver the more than 1.5 million meals each day. They could have been bringing more awareness to that so that more people could donate.
  
  But instead, they spend a month floating around on boats doing a PR stunt.
  
  https://x.com/ghfupdates
  https://x.com/SamaritansPurse
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:32am
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    On behalf of Hamas .
    
    Media don’t include that .
    
    This stunt is aligned to Hamas .
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:57am
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      and paid for by Qatar
      
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- Swifty
  
  I’ve read that all their ‘humanitarian aid’ consists of is a couple of tins of baked beans.
  
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  October 3, 2025 1:00pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’m surprised they didn’t pick up a couple of rubber boats of African immigrants en route.
  
  Or maybe they would have run out of supplies.
  
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  October 3, 2025 2:36pm
- Ra Henare
  
  From a PR perspective, what a non story it would be if IDF escorted the flotilla to a beach someplace and let them discharge( give them 2 hours) their cargo on the beach and then leave.
  
  Of course, the flotilla knew they would get intercepted and hence achieve THEIR PR goal of how nasty IDF is.
  
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  October 3, 2025 3:33pm
Master Mariner

Useful Idiot.
This is why Insurance is unaffordable. I have been banging on about this previously.
Councils should immediately revoke any Climate emergencies and any Sea Level rise Risks from Climate Change Nonsense.
Surely this is a good reason for any Class action.
This makes my Blood Boil.

Sean Plunket Reveals Who Paid For Chlöe Swarbrick’s Business Class Seat To The UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix7kSWOf83Y
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October 3, 2025 9:13am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Brilliant…
  
  Kris Faafoi looking after old mates, or trying to create new ones?
  
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  October 3, 2025 12:16pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

More squawking on Radio NZ’s The Panel last night. Despite RNZ being required by its charter to provide a balance of views, The Panel is anything but. It’s just a parade of Lefties, wringing their hands while signalling their virtue.

In this case the topic was how hard teachers have it with troubled and disabled children. The only solution offered was more teachers aides, and more child psychologists.

I was longing for someone to say – bring back special schools. Surely mainstreaming is another failed educational feel-good policy. It interrupts the education of other children, and I don’t know that the sorts of kids we’re talking about are actually going to become productive members of society no matter what we do. By concentrating them, at least in the major population centres, we can focus the specialist resources that might help things along.

I don’t know how valid special schools might be, but that’s not the point. The point is that such a suggestion will not be aired on RNZ because it’s a Lefty bubble.
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October 3, 2025 9:24am
- Cassandra
  
  I used to be on The Panel. I was the only right wing person (and I’m not very far right). That was 15 years ago. A actually jjim Moira got a lot of feedback that I was “the voice of reason”. Mind you, Bomber Bradbury was also there at that time, briefly, until they discovered that he was nuts.
  
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  October 3, 2025 11:14am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Jim Mora’s alright. The Panel’s gone down hill since then.
    
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    October 3, 2025 8:28pm
- Paulus
  
  Tauranga now appears to have two Special Schools – the original one in town, and the old one formerly Brookfield Primary school both renamed te Kura o Mananui, of course next door to the new very multi million te Kura o Mananui built virtually next door.
  None of this was published just done of course.
  Locals new nothing of the new Multi Million school until building started then was named as a Kura, not Primary School.
  Am very favoured with the principle of Special Schools but why keep it a secret and rename it quietly one morning as a Kura.
  
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  October 3, 2025 2:16pm
robertmacculloch

Regards the threat of legal proceedings on Blogger Michael Reddell by Former Governor Orr, people thought I was making it up for closing my Blog due to threats. KiwiBlog carries on upon about threats to free speech coming from our Universities where I work. Nothing is further from the truth. The threats to me came from National and Labour party politicians and private industry.

Finance Minister Willis threw former RBNZ Governor Orr to the wolves, letting the media run wild with stories that he left firstly due to “personal reasons”, and then when that line was found to be untrue, because of disagreements over funding. My long-held impression, backed by former RBNZ officials, has been he left because Willis was involved in an effective take-over of the RBNZ by our big banks.Whatever disagreements I had over the years with Orr, they were always over technical implementation of monetary policy. Never about his impeccable integrity and character.

Yet Willis has let the NZ public believe he left because he wanted unreasonable and vast increases in his budget. She wanted him out. The big banks wanted him out since he was getting in their way. Orr was right that the bank capital requirements should stay high. Willis should have resigned “for personal reasons”, not Orr. I do not trust this government and have reasons that I can’t write down, or will be subject to threats & more de-platforming. Not from the University. But from the very folks who Kiwiblog supports.
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October 3, 2025 9:34am
- Ghost
  
  Remind us again how you claimed Orr would take a wrongful dismissal case against the his resignation. Strange how you couldn’t back up with evidence any of these supposed threats, even on the platform.
  
  You were making false statement after false statement on your blog, looked more like your lying caught up with you and you closed it because you were caught lying
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:46am
  - Cassandra
    
    Nonsense, Ghost. He should sue you.
    
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    October 3, 2025 11:16am
    - Ghost
      
      Just because you think it’s nonsense doesn’t mean it is. He made claims that Orr would sue the government for wrongful dismissal, actually he made a complete story around that with the finance minister. She should sue him. Orr resigned, no case for wrongful dismissal. He could not back up his claims on the platform of threats from labour and national, instead he claimed it was his friend threatened by frontera. He made lie after lie on his blog and that caught up with him.
      
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      October 3, 2025 5:38pm
  - Paulus
    
    I bet the redundency/resignation money agreed with Robertson on Orr’s new contract before the election is enormous anyway.
    Taxpayer pay anyway !
    
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    October 3, 2025 2:19pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Regards the threat of legal proceedings on Blogger Michael Reddell by Former Governor Orr, people thought I was making it up for closing my Blog due to threats.
  
  Some info here on the Updates (at end of article):
  
  https://croakingcassandra.com/2025/09/24/article-for-central-banking-magazine-on-orr-quigley-willis-saga-and-lessons/
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:47am
- mandk
  
  So, it was nothing to do with Orr turning the RBNZ into yet another DEI-focused, Treaty-centred, Climate change-driven, ESG-promoting institution, requiring a 150% increase in staff numbers and a huge increase in its operating costs?
  
  Robertson invited Orr to go big on his budget request, and Orr had a tantrum when Willis told him he wasn’t going to get any more lollies.
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:49am
- Philview
  
  I enjoy Michael’s blog but he often gives the impression of a difficult personal history with Adrian Orr.
  
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  October 3, 2025 10:57am
- Philview
  
  “Very folks who Kiwiblog supports” I am not sure that Kiwibloggers do support these folks but more a least worse option when you look at various extreme policies that the last Labour Government was playing around with such as He Puapua and identity politics.
  
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  October 3, 2025 11:05am
- kiwimike
  
  I can believe you Cas.
  
  But I won’t….
  
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  October 3, 2025 5:28pm
AitchW

Staying in Raratomga for a few days, the only news on tv is ABC. Their coverage of the IDF intercepting the so called flotilla makes TVNZ sound decidedly hard right.
The language was astounding for a state broadcaster, apparently the IDF abducted Greta and her mates.
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October 3, 2025 9:47am
- Don Beckett
  
  If that were true, I would say “well done”.
  
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  October 3, 2025 11:20am
Jack5

Taxpayers are giving $5 million towards a roof for Auckland’s premier tennis court. Jeez. The health system could do with that money – desperately could do with it.

Auckland tennis fans probably already vote National or ACT. So it’s a political waste as well as an extravagance.
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October 3, 2025 9:58am
- RoboRob
  
  Left wing governments like to pick pet projects / winners that they think are good for the country.
  
  Right wing parties prefer the fre market decides the winners and losers and focus on setting a platform when winning ideas can achieve.
  
  Looking at the parties in NZ where do we think the various parties sit based on the above tradition descriptions of left and right?
  
  I laugh when people talk about the coalition government being hard right (or even right). The difference between labour and National ideology is almost zero. Sure Labour are full of foolish ideas, but ideology wise both parties believe they can pick the best places to spend our money.
  
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  October 3, 2025 1:13pm
Swifty

I think this goes too far:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360842757/come-winstons-house-pro-palestine-protesters-share-peters-address-online-after-flotilla-stopped

Protesting at MPs houses and inevitably creating discomfort, or worse, for politicians kids and families is just not on.

Protesting at electorate offices I guess I can live with (although I do feel for electorate staff) but this targeting of homes is just not on. It’s bullying.
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October 3, 2025 10:09am
Swifty

How long until the raving pro-Palestine types try the same thing here?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/574861/uk-synagogue-terror-attack-suspect-named-as-jihad-al-shamie

I argue again we don’t want or need one more Gazan refugee here. It’s just asking for trouble, based on the countless videos on schools in Gaza available online where people/kids are saturated in the most vile antisemitism from childhood and which includes chanting about killing Jews until none are left.

And let’s face it, allowing more Gazan refugees is just a political stunt by Labour and the Greens to play to their supporters – bringing more in benefits New Zealand absolutely zero.
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October 3, 2025 10:17am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Oz has let in 3,000 of them. I bet none or few of them believe Israel has the right to exist
  
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  October 3, 2025 11:45am
  - waikatosinger
    
    Just bear in mind that all the ones Oz let in have the right to move here. We just have to hope they won’t.
    
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    October 3, 2025 1:34pm
- kiwimike
  
  The UN through UNWRA/Hamas has indoctrinated/trained 3 generations (15yrs) of Gazan school children to hate Jews and want to kill them.
  
  so the UN is compromised, we should never take in Gazan refugees, we don’t have enough Pschs to treat them for one.
  
  then there’s the 2nd gen terrorist risk.
  
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  October 3, 2025 5:34pm
surfing

Gangs vs the crown : gangs winning by using violence to threaten government workers.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/protest-action-brewing-in-maketu-over-confiscated-properties/WKZ5FVIYEZGFFFTAW3445HTWQ4/

Gang assets forfeit nearly 10 years ago, but, a gang member still lives in this forfeited house. No one will buy the house because they will be murdered.

This is lawlessness at worst and the government needs to exercise brutal force against the dangerous crims.

Who runs the country? Government or the gang? Government have decided to let the gang rule!
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October 3, 2025 10:29am
- RoboRob
  
  A good test case for Mark Mitchel to show how tough he really is. He talks a good game, time to see it come into action.
  
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  October 3, 2025 1:15pm
- kiwimike
  
  So destroy the house as the Israelis do !!
  
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  October 3, 2025 5:34pm
Swifty

And when anti-Jew terrorism does hit these shores, what responsibility will Chloe Swarbrick and others take for their advocacy for wiping Israel off the map?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15157101/Blood-British-Jews-hands-Campaign-Against-Antisemitism-boss-blames-virtue-signalling-politicians-pouring-fuel-fire-extremism.html

And don’t say she hasn’t, that’s exactly what ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’ means, and it’s been spelt out to her and she still says it. Add to that the hysterical claims of genocide by the Greens and their supporters and it’s only a matter of time before it goes off here by likely some young person, or Islamist, thinking they are doing the world a favour by taking out a few Jews. Or Winston. Or Luxon.
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October 3, 2025 10:48am
- MCōs
  
  Back in early 2018 I struck up a conversation with a Muslim guy in Cornwell Park. It was just after a Kiwi had been killed by a bomb in Kabul while America still had a presence in Afghanistan and he was a friend of this chap. He had gone to bank to change some money before returning to NZ and the bomb had gone off nearby.
  These two guys routinely went to mosque in Ponsonby. He said the police had been keeping an eye on the mosque and wanted the leadership to let them know of any radical behaviour by attendees.
  The inference being the police watch for potential trouble at all the mosques and Islamic centres.
  In the meantime Tarrant wasn’t even on their radar down in Dunedin
  
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  October 3, 2025 12:38pm
  - Swifty
    
    And?
    
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    October 3, 2025 1:09pm
    - MCōs
      
      You don’t see the irony of the situation?
      
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      October 3, 2025 3:03pm
  - Hugh Jarse
    
    Given the preponderance of global terrorist attacks in 2018 were committed by Islamist extremists often radicalised in Sharias or mosques I am not surprised at mosques being a focus of police interest. Tarrant stands out as a fairly lonely example of whitey extremist terrorism, albeit way up there on impact.
    
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    October 3, 2025 2:32pm
    - MCōs
      
      Not in NZ
      If fact rarely in NZ by anyone. Trades Hall, Rainbow Warrior, Lyn Mall,
      Even after the Mosque attacks there were no retaliations
      
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      October 3, 2025 9:45pm
OlderChas

There was a huge lump of TV3 Storytime at 6 taken up with crying over 3 kiwis detained in the Gaza peace flotilla.
Well done media in giving them the attention that they craved.
The knew damn well that they would be arrested (not kidnapped or abducted) by Israeli forces, chose to ignore the long-standing NZ govt advice not to go to Gaza, Navy to alter course or be intercepted, then cry like babies when what they knew would happen happened.
I noted that the Arabic looking one with an Arabic sounding name demands that the NZ Gvmt now ensures he is returned home immediately. sorry mate – you asked for this and you got it.
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October 3, 2025 11:39am
- kowtow
  
  stuff in a puff piece about the anarchist’s son , you know the guy who raided Waihopi , not that any of the media drew our attention to that , described the other two as ‘palestinian kiwis’.and named them.
  
  I can’t be arsed to look them up but in a wider context the IDF have evidence that the Med anti gay Cruise has Hamas backing.
  
  This raises some very serious issues . That our fawning media don’t seem to be prepared to address.
  
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  October 3, 2025 2:19pm
- kowtow
  
  This is the second time those two “kiwi palestinians’ have been on these cruise escapades .
  
  I hope the NZ taxpayer is not on the hook for them.
  
  The woman came to NZ as a refugee in 2013.
  
  In an RNZ interview in 2019 she said she “liked to travel” .
  
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  October 3, 2025 3:34pm
- kiwimike
  
  2yrs jail would be nice.
  Long enough to mean something but easy to do for such a hardened activist.
  
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  October 3, 2025 5:37pm
MCōs

Someone was foolish enough to ram a getaway car.
All they got for their actions was a damaged car, which I doubt the insurance company will be too happy about.
The rightful owner of the stolen getaway car now has a damaged vehicle
I expect by the time the police catch up with the perpetrators the stolen items have disappeared into the ether and there’s little to show for it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland/birkenhead-pawn-shop-robbery-three-vehicles-used-during-dramatic-incident/2M2AIIJU7NBNDAIOMUMFLCTDPQ/
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October 3, 2025 11:54am
- Colville
  
  If they had rammed it half a meter further forward it would have munted the front wheel and disabled the car.
  Worth a crack me thinks.
  
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  October 3, 2025 12:43pm
rouppe

Just yesterday in Portland.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-marcus-my-run-in-shows-portland-its-cops-who-handcuffed

Today in Portland
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-marcus-trump-repeats-dc-magic-portlands-antifa-thugs-retreat
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October 3, 2025 12:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Uh Oh…

Just a rumour?

Several sources close to the breakdown have told Waatea News that there are questions over the management of Tai Tokerau MP Marameno Kapa Kingis office that have also been brought to the attention of Parliamentary Services, including budgets.

Toitu Te Tiriti, while considered by the public as a “movement,” is also a company.

https://waateanews.com/2025/10/02/breakdown-or-breakup/
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- kowtow
  
  What’s that sound I hear ………
  
  ………ahhhh ,it’s the whitewash being prepared .
  
  Nothing to see here , move along or you’ll be arrested.
  
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  October 3, 2025 2:13pm
Southern Raider

Just reading that protesters have been outside Winston’s home.

I find this absolutely disgusting and not something we should ever condone in NZ.

I have no time for Green Party or Labour MPs but I would 100% be against any right wing people pulling this same stunt.
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October 3, 2025 3:04pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Yes if protesters did that outside Jacinda’s or Helen’s home, they’d be crushed and whisked away in a flash.
  
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  October 3, 2025 6:48pm
  - MCōs
    
    Groundswell protested outside Jacinda’s house
    https://share.google/images/zZtjpH0aIePoAzimO
    
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    October 3, 2025 10:02pm
cas

Gosh one of the Directors is someone called Nyree Dawn Porter. She must be extremely well preserved.
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- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Changed her first name too
  
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  October 3, 2025 8:35pm
- MCōs
  
  The NZ actor of that name died in 2001.
  
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