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Cassandra

This isn’t the start of a joke. Eight Palestine Action members went into a UK Air Force base, damaged planes and property and were arrested. They are on remand, in prison, awaiting trial.

They went on what they called a hunger strike, in at least one case what we would call a diet because it is intermittent. Three have now ended their fast. The others, including the dieter, have not. Yet. Endless media coverage.

Unlike Bobby Sands, this is just a PR stunt.

Merry Christmas to all.
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December 25, 2025 8:01am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Greta was told to “move along” as she sat outside a prison with a sign supporting said strikers.
  
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  December 25, 2025 8:15am
  - imalwaysright
    
    They should have invited her in…the recidivism rate would plummet.
    
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    December 25, 2025 9:54am
  - peterwn
    
    She was lucky. Years ago a guy was caught loitering around Mt Eden (old) prison. The beak said “as you like the place so much you can go there for two weeks”.
    
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    December 25, 2025 11:41am
- peterwn
  
  Years ago a couple of Kiwi women got into a USAF base and started attacking B52 bombers with hammers. They were sentenced to jail and the Feds arranged for them to serve their terms in some crappy county jail in the wop-wops (inaccessible by public transport).
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:46am
NeverMindTheBollocks

I see that two takahe, previously thought to be infertile, have succeeded in hatching a chick.

Given the season, it should be named Jesus, but I bet that it won’t be.
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December 25, 2025 8:08am
- Mike
  
  Isaac
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:40am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Indeed. Or John the Baptist
    
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    December 25, 2025 12:05pm
- Christopher Thomson
  
  Adam, or the maori version thereof more likely.
  
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  December 25, 2025 12:20pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Retail NZ bemoans the fact that New Zealanders are spending less on Christmas Eve than formerly. The offshore online shopping effect is identified as a possible cause, correctly in my view. Could it also be that NZ has more non Christians than before, for whom Christmas gift giving is not part of their culture?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360918419/christmas-eve-still-years-biggest-spending-day-shoppers-are-pulling-back
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December 25, 2025 8:20am
- Mike
  
  Or that people are sick and tired of relentless promotion of religious festival for commercial gain?
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:41am
- peterwn
  
  It seems that sales of Christmas cards and stamps have also plummeted in recent years.
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:48am
  - Local Miller
    
    This isn’t surprising as almost no one sends snail mail any more.
    
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    December 25, 2025 12:29pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      The psychopathic-greed driven AI dystopia is likely to make it a more attractive privacy option for communicating.
      
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      December 25, 2025 5:13pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Bur wrapping paper sales are up as Boomers buy grandies bigger presents.
    
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    December 25, 2025 1:47pm
- Wandering Star
  
  When do you ever see Jesus Christ featured in Christmas messaging these days? You’d think since Christ’s name is in the holiday, he’d get a look in somewhere. Then again the King of kings and Mammon are uneasy bedfellows, and promoting the one may be to the detriment of the other.
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:53am
  - vand
    
    wise words WS
    
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    December 25, 2025 8:33pm
- cmm
  
  Giving lavish gifts is commercial. Nothing to do with Christianity.
  
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  December 25, 2025 5:25pm
Scott

Merry Christmas everybody! In the spirit of goodwill to all men and women I know that many of you are concerned about the fate of our former prime Minister Jacinda? Well I can confirm she is alive and well.

Jacinda appeared on the Graham Norton show recently and she was amazing. We learned she found out she was pregnant at the time she found out she was prime minister. Amazing-so says Kate Winslet. So says Graham Norton. Jacinda is amazing!
Then she traded jokes with Seth Meyer. Jacinda is just amazing!

Amd she brought us an amazing documentary – “Prime Minister”. “Wow” – said Graham Norton.

Jacinda’s response to covid was amazing! But then the cracks started to appear. But Jacinda was very proud of what she did.

What went wrong? Politics shifted.
But jacinda said politics can be better. Expect decency in politics.
But for jacinda there was so much joy in between.

I do have to say this. Jacinda is still a great communicator. She comes across brilliantly and smiles beautifully and dresses well and looks good.

The only problem is we are the people who actually had to live under her governance. She might look good and sound good but we had to live under her rule where she could get up on a Tuesday and announce that we are all under virtual house arrest and had to stay home for the foreseeable future. And get the Vax. And if you don’t get the Vax you will lose your job. That’s what we remember about Jacinda. 😎

But rest assured gentle kiwiblog readers. The luvvies on the Graham Norton show still think she’s amazing! 😁
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December 25, 2025 8:52am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Jacinda now looks younger than she did when she was PM. I’d say she’s had some work done. But then, deceiving the public is her life’s work.
  
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  December 25, 2025 9:45am
- Paulus
  
  Her PR Team have almost everybody Overseas knowing that she is wunnerful, because she and the media say so.
  She would still be welcome back here from many women who voted for her, as Luxon is a Bald Male !
  They from her term here got almost everything that they could have dreamt for.
  And now these people want more, more, more, as we will see at the Election.
  Will be a disaster, with no Government elected, and another will take place indecisively until Peters is Prime Minister.
  
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  December 25, 2025 10:47am
  - David Garrett
    
    Paulus: As I have said a number of times here The Princess is living proof that a degree in “communications ” is NOT a waste of time and money !
    
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    December 25, 2025 10:57am
- Northshoredoc
  
  Thankyou for taking one for the team Scott.
  
  Thank goodness I missed that show.
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:33am
- R
  
  Being loved by the luvvies of the Norton show indicates that she has now found her base level of simple supporters. They can keep her.
  
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  December 25, 2025 1:00pm
- jonno1
  
  My impression was that she was there solely to promote her film, for which Norton and the other guests feigned interest. The time allocated to her, compared with the others, was minimal. When you consider the body of work those others represented, this was quite understandable. I actually felt a little bit sorry for her.
  
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  December 25, 2025 1:50pm
- cmm
  
  “Jacinda is still a great communicator”
  
  Naah.
  
  But she is surrounded by a strong communications team.
  
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  December 25, 2025 5:26pm
- JackRabbit
  
  “I do have to say this. Jacinda is still a great communicator. She comes across brilliantly and smiles beautifully and dresses well and looks good. ”
  
  No, she is highly skilled at not telling the truth but getting people to believe it. There is nothing good or great about distorting the truth and destroying peoples’ lives, and livelihoods.
  
  If you discovered an elderly single parent got sucked into an online romance scam, lost her/his entire life savings, and mortgaged their house to the hilt, would you consider the scammer a great communicator?
  
  Many people have faced that reality. Financially broken, or friends and relatives in the cemetery before their time, or struggling with the new turbo cancers.
  
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  December 25, 2025 10:35pm
- Paulus
  
  See she lost UN top job to a Chilean woman !
  
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  December 26, 2025 9:27am
Chuck Bird

2025 CO2 Coalition Christmas Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpa5hZwnAMA
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December 25, 2025 9:16am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  It is an ignorant and stupid video. Climate change is leading to severe ecosystem damage on every continent, ranging from permafrost thawing in Alaska to Amazon drought and dozens of other examples.
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:42am
  - PeterTrentham
    
    And increased supply of food.
    
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    December 25, 2025 11:47am
  - peterwn
    
    Not climate change. Just the Earth moving through a long term cyclic variation which humans are powerless to halt.
    
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    December 25, 2025 11:51am
    - R
      
      It is called the milankovich theory. Seems to be well supported by real scientific evidence
      
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      December 25, 2025 1:02pm
    - Notsofast
      
      That is nonsense.
      CO2 concentration is rising at a rate 2000 times any previous time.
      Mankind settled coasts with a rate of 250 ppm which has prevailed for millions of years.
      
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      December 25, 2025 4:45pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        ” CO2 concentration is rising at a rate 2000 times any previous time.”
        
        How is this a problem given Co2 is approx 0.04% of the total atmosphere and it’s infrared absorption bands are pretty much fully saturated (IE Co2 can’t do much more “greenhouse effect” work even if you double it’s concentration in the atmosphere)?
        
        Basically alarmists are baffling with BS to cause panic, as usual.
        
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        December 25, 2025 5:59pm
    - JerJer
      
      The climate scam is falling apart faster than, well, melting ice. Bill Gates withdrawing his support, climate groups are disbanding (they are going broke), haven’t heard from silly Greta for months. EV mandates are being cancelled, and massive errors are being discovered in the good old computer models. The climate is always changing, always has, always will. It’s great this lunacy is finally
      Coming to an end. Hope all those sucked into green investments get their money out before that collapses too. They are companies with no viable business model, mainly funded by tax payers (now being with withdrawn) and run by activists who we all know, have no idea.
      
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      December 25, 2025 5:40pm
  - Wandering Star
    
    “Climate change is leading to severe ecosystem damage on every continent…”
    
    There’s really no such thing as “ecosystem damage” just changes to an ecosystem. This is because there’s no such thing as a static ecosystem. There’s just an ecosystem at time x in a certain state, and at time y, and so on. It all balances out, regardless of what changes.
    
    Let’s say ice cover diminishes (and the fact of a certain amount of ice cover at any one time is a completely arbitrary datum) – as the ice melts, this opens up a niche for organism(s) that do better with less ice in the environment, and vice versa if ice increases.
    
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    December 25, 2025 12:06pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      Lets say permafrost melts. Ginormous methane burp ensues. Climate alters. I guess you are right – it’s still an ecosystem – just not one that suits us very well. Ditto for ice melting etc
      
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      December 26, 2025 7:40am
Mod88

Merry Christmas to everyone. May the day bless you with good times had with family & friends.
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December 25, 2025 10:32am
Nikola Donatello

I see that the NSW government has tightened gun laws and curbs on “hate speech”.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/ministerial-releases/tighter-gun-laws-reforms-to-bolster-community-safety-pass-nsw-parliament

Not a word about the actual problem that caused the Bondi terrorist attack. Allowing militant Islam to flourish in Australia.
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December 25, 2025 11:33am
- Wandering Star
  
  They’re really bending over backwards for the Jewish community after this one, aren’t they. White people in Manchester, for instance, were just told to not look back in anger.
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:57am
- Swifty
  
  You know you’re in serious trouble when your supposed leaders won’t even say the name of the cause of your problems – let alone do anything concrete about it.
  
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  December 25, 2025 12:38pm
- Chuck Bird
  
  A Rabbi’s car in Melbourne was fire bombed at 2 am this morning.
  
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  December 25, 2025 9:22pm
- JackRabbit
  
  Next they’ll start regulating supermarket trolleys because they will be deemed to be the cause of criminals filling up their supermarket trolleys and walking out without paying.
  
  It also worked really well with banning plastic supermarket bags because re-using supermarket bags as bin liners or dog poop pickup bags was causing the Antarctic to melt. Sales of new bin liners and single use plastic bags has risen to take the place of recycled supermarket bags, and then some.
  
  I note that Jacinda’s mates, Blackrock, have investments in companies that produce single use plastics.
  
  From Google:
  “According to a 2021 report, BlackRock, Vanguard, and Capital Group were identified as the top three institutional asset managers holding shares worth nearly $300 billion in the parent companies of single-use plastic polymer producers, with an estimated $6 billion to $10 billion directly linked to single-use plastic production.”
  
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  December 25, 2025 11:11pm
Ghost

An incredibly long interview (5 hours 27 minutes) for anyone that wants to look at the different topics with Shawn Ryan interviewing .Hunter Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4D4MqYS11k
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December 25, 2025 4:58pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  5 hours 27 minutes! FFS! It better be very tasty indeed!
  
  Even in Ben Shapiro style motormouth mode (2x speed) that’s still nearly three hours and my brain would hurt staying on top of speech that fast for that long!
  
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  December 25, 2025 5:14pm
pb

The Americans just banned a bunch of EU bureaucratic hate speech censors from America. Withdrew their Visas.Wasn’t this one of Jacinda’s gigs? LOL. Ban her too.

Cancelled: Thierry Breton. Was on the pigs tit, after his EU-NUCH stint. No more.
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