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Nikola Donatello

The headline is that Northland faces a “deluge”.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360926209/northland-expecting-heavy-downfall-locals-deal-sundays-flood-waters

Deluge means a “great flood of water; inundation; flood. · a drenching rain; downpour. · anything that overwhelms like a flood”

…. No there is nothing like this forecast. Yes there may be localised flooding, but this is nonsense journalism.
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January 20, 2026 8:04am
- David Garrett
  
  Niko: I’ll take the “deluge” over the weather back in Tonga! Mid thirties apparently, with 95% humidity…I am most definitely NOT looking forward to going back later this week.
  
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  January 20, 2026 8:07am
  - MCōs
    
    My son lives up that way and he told me it’s been absolutely pissing down.
    Maybe that’s the correct terminology
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:25am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    I’m happy. We needed rain.
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:36am
    - Sir Henry Morgan
      
      You’re giving away your location. Your position will soon be surrounded by thousands of enraged bureaucrats, Rorke’s Drift style.
      
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      January 20, 2026 5:28pm
- redeye
  
  I’ve noticed Stuff has been reporting the weather like it’s the only news around. On the Nelson Mail, 4 out of the top five stories are just the weather.
  The other is the story about the tramper missing in Kahurangi that hasn’t been updated. He was found a couple of days ago.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-news
  I suspect their problems are getting worse. One can only hope.
  
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  January 20, 2026 8:31am
  - Ghost
    
    you should probably use the new Nelson news link and not the old.
    
    https://www.thepress.co.nz/nelson
    
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    January 20, 2026 8:35am
    - redeye
      
      Cheers for that. I’ll update my bookmark.
      
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      January 20, 2026 8:39am
    - Ghost
      
      They did it in timaru as well, shifted it to the post and don’t redirect or close the old link
      
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      January 20, 2026 8:58am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    It’s mid-January in New Zealand. There isn’t any national news, and local news is no more interesting at this time of year than it is at any other.
    
    What’s your advice? What do you think a commercial organisation whose business model is to sell the reporting of news, ought to be doing?
    
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    January 20, 2026 8:49am
    - sungsamning
      
      There’s tons of real news on YouTube. There are many choices.
      
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      January 20, 2026 9:15am
      - RichardX
        
        Maybe you could try linking to some.
        
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        January 20, 2026 10:32am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        The problem with getting your news from Youtube is that your algorithm is designed with confirmation bias. What you already believe is the line they will give you.
        
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        January 20, 2026 11:06am
      - Dudley Quaffquaff
        
        I’d be really interested in an example.
        
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        January 20, 2026 11:40am
    - R
      
      Try some investigative journalism, searching for, and reporting actual news; not just printing keyboard ideological opinions
      
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      January 20, 2026 9:20am
    - Ghost
      
      Plenty of national and local stories every day
      
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      January 20, 2026 10:38am
    - laworder
      
      Report the ongoing uprising against the bloodthirsty fascist regime in Iran for a start. Bonus points for reporting the genocidal slaughter of Nigerian Christians and animists. Extra points for reporting Qatari corruption of Western institutions and governments. There’s three to begin with
      
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      January 20, 2026 5:08pm
      - Beach Haven expat
        
        Unfortunately those stories will get very little traffic because they are overseas but weather stories will fly because they are local. Now there is a fine line to tread in terms of how much coverage and tone, but literally handfuls of readers may look at the top 4 sentences of the Nigerian story as opposed to thousands on weather. You have to give the people what they want (or think they want) to stay in business.
        
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        January 21, 2026 1:31am
  - kowtow
    
    Every click on a $1ffed site is support for them and against freedom.
    
    Up to you of course .
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:24am
    - imalwaysright
      
      I wonder what the conversion rate of ‘clicks to purchase’ for their advertisers is.
      Do you have to click on an advertiser to monetise it for Stuff, or do they get paid purely on views rather than clicks?
      
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      January 20, 2026 10:08am
      - RoboRob
        
        I believe its usually some combination of the two. Advertisers pay a small amount to have their add appear on your site, this is based on the number of views your site gets. More views means this base fee is higher. They then may have to pay a secondary (larger) amount if the add is clicked.
        
        Its a little like shops in a mall. They pay a higher rent (in part) becuase of the foot traffic provided. Some malls also take a portion of sales (I believe).
        
        I’m no expert on this. However my theory, and why I try very hard to never click a link here to Stuff, is that without the ‘traffic’ their business model falls apart. Not enough traffic equals less adds and less money paid to show the adds.
        
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        January 20, 2026 11:02am
      - RoboRob
        
        As a total aside to the above, this is also a similar situation for social media / YouTube.
        
        More subscribers means more add revenue. More viewers means more payments for views. This is a huge driving force behind people like Destiny and Candace Owens saying more and more outrageous things. More clicks equals more money. At some point viewers will start drifting away (I hope) and they will reap the rewards of their ‘click bait’ style content. The same is true for ‘news’ outlets like Stuff. Post lots of click bait type stories or extreme views and eventually people will go elsewhere and ignore you.
        
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        January 20, 2026 11:08am
      - imalwaysright
        
        👍🏻
        
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        January 20, 2026 11:09am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Kowtow.
      An alternative view.
      Every click shows an open mind????!!!!
      
      Every refusal to view stuffed is a sign of an ideologically closed mind????
      
      Just a thought
      
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      January 20, 2026 3:40pm
- graham
  
  Sad to say, but the days of calm, measured, and neutral reporting are long gone. They have been replaced by breathless gasps of urgency, prophecies of doom, shrieks and wails of dismay, and clickbait headlines.
  
  Certainly in New Zealand, there’s precious few journalists that command any respect these days.
  
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  January 20, 2026 8:39am
  - Dudley Quaffquaff
    
    Is there any reason to think that enough people share your desire for calm, measured and neutral reporting, and that they are able and willing to pay enough for it, to make providing it a viable commercial endeavour in a free competitive market?
    
    Or is your preferred approach that there should not be a free competitive market for news reporting?
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:11am
  - R
    
    Can count them all on my thumbless hand.
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:22am
  - mogg
    
    https://youtu.be/QSJh9cfxHNk
    BBC interviewer hisses at the mention of Jesus Christ.
    Would she hiss at the mention of Allah.
    on top of their Woke views on everything else
    it seems they openly don’t approve of Christianity,
    
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    January 20, 2026 11:18am
    - Ghost
      
      Sounds more like she took a deep inhale
      
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      January 20, 2026 11:29am
      - mogg
        
        If you inhale like that you need to see a doctor urgently.
        
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        January 20, 2026 12:58pm
      - Ghost
        
        Lady took a deep inhale before wrapping ip the interview, mic close to the mouth, internet spins it for the latest outrage, a nothing story
        
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        January 20, 2026 1:07pm
      - mogg
        
        Far from an internet story; it’s being covered by all UK media, except for the BBC of course.
        The Woke Marxist news outlets won’t touch it,
        doesn’t fit with their narrative.
        
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        January 20, 2026 2:02pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Deep inhale aka Gasp of Horror.
        How dare Christianity get mentioned on the BBC
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        January 20, 2026 3:01pm
      - Ghost
        
        There is nothing to touch, except for the simple minds that want to spin this into their latest outrage.
        
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        January 20, 2026 4:16pm
      - mogg
        
        Have you got a mirror handy??
        
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        January 20, 2026 5:36pm
      - Ghost
        
        Here’s more videos of her, enter run and claim she is hissing in them, she obviously takes very loud inhales when talking and it is nothing new
        
        14 years ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmgaQZota-o
        
        2019
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYp1WfRc2Y
        
        4 years ago, she has very loud inhales
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wciwGFN6IiI
        
        Another moronic internet beat up over nothing
        
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        January 20, 2026 5:53pm
    - MCōs
      
      A beat up if ever there was one
      
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      January 20, 2026 2:26pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Or do you mean to say,
      I have nothing better to do that engage in meanless trivia. Who cares if she hissed roared or shouted.
      
      Content is king.
      
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      January 20, 2026 3:43pm
      - mogg
        
        A state broadcaster being funded by compulsory licence fee, which gasps in shock at the mention of their by far majority religious beliefs, maybe trivia to you but to many others it’s an important matter.
        If you are unable to see the ‘content’ in this you are free to move on, don’t let me detain you.
        
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        January 20, 2026 4:13pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Journalism media have become the conduits for others to tell us what they want us to believe.
    
    The other side of the coin is equally, if not more powerful, in that they don’t tell us what they don’t want us to know.
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:04pm
  - NothingLeft
    
    The good old days of media weren’t that much better as they were still deeply in pockets of ruling elites. Their biases are just more apparent now. Connor Tomlinson speaking to Oxford union on this topic, 10minutes very much on point. https://youtu.be/WRUKtBrnCm8
    
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    January 20, 2026 3:45pm
- Paulus
  
  But this is normal so called Journalism, or if you prefer just lies !
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:05am
- marcw
  
  Are you sure you are correct – I see a big system of humid air from the tropics and remainants of the Queensland cyclone colliding with a stalled anticyclone from the South. Cold Southerly air is about to clash over Northland/Auckland/Coramandel in the next 48 hours at least.
  
  earth.nullschool.net backs my observations for Thursday/Friday.
  
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  January 20, 2026 12:27pm
Cassandra

Pleased to meat you: Signs of veganism’s decline appeared in a recent report by the Good Food Institute Europe, which found that sales of plant-based food in Britain fell by 4.5% in the 24/25 year and Wagamama axed a string of vegan favourites from menus, including its ‘Vegatsu’ curry and its ‘vegan K-Dogs’. KFC and McDonald’s have also pulled many of their vegan items. Major supermarket chains reported declining sales of plant-based products eg meat and dairy.

On a positive note (and endorsing the view that veganism might be waning) NZ beef farmers are having a really good time.

Which is not to say that vegetables are bad for you! But ice cream is better when it’s made from milk.
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January 20, 2026 8:26am
- David Garrett
  
  Cass: Major supermarket chains reported declining sales of plant-based products eg meat and dairy.
  
  That doesn’t make sense old chap…meat and dairy are not “plant based products”..the sentence needs another phrase after “plant based products”, such as “in favour of…” or “and increases in…”
  
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  January 20, 2026 8:41am
  - Dougal10
    
    Well meat and dairy are really plant based because cows eat grass , all the copys are really seed based renditions of the real thing , even vegetarians mainly eat the reproductive part of plants rather than the plant itself.
    
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    January 20, 2026 8:50am
  - Cassandra
    
    DG: I thought a bit of shorthand might work but obviously not for some. Manufacturers make products from plants and call them meat and dairy. So you get non-dairy cheese etc. How’s life under the rock?😇
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:20am
    - David Garrett
      
      Cass: Don’t be so sensitive! Your usage is not “shorthand” just unclear – or just plain wrong if you want to be brutally honest.
      
      Oh, and I have no idea what life is like “under the rock”…funny, I didn’t have you down as the type to sling petty insults. Ah well…I’m a big boy.
      
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      January 20, 2026 9:31am
      - Cassandra
        
        Who started this, old chap? Who’s the thrower of the first stone? Most people understand that shops sell plant-based meat, even though that’s a non-sequitur.
        
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        January 20, 2026 10:05am
      - David Garrett
        
        You answered your own question! “Plant based meat” is an oxymoron.
        
        But never mind…Again, I thought you were above silly insults.
        
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        January 20, 2026 10:46am
      - Anthony Melchett
        
        If it’s made out of plants it’s not meat.
        
        If you weren’t supposed to eat meat, animals wouldn’t be made out of it.
        
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        January 20, 2026 12:23pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    I’ve always been concerned about what type of processes are used to make Plants simulate meat.
    
    I’ve always preferred the natural way that plants become meat. Cattle eat Grass, and we eat steak.
    
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    January 20, 2026 11:08am
    - Graeme Hall
      
      I believe the process is called “Precision fermentation”. It aims to use basic organic inputs to replicate the product without the animal and at much less cost, although the cost & taste part has yet to eventuate.
      
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      January 20, 2026 11:31am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Sorry to disagree David(na luvving it).
    
    I always say I am a vegetarian, I just like my grass processed through an animal first!!
    
    The secret is in the words PLANT BASED!!!
    
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    January 20, 2026 3:44pm
- Im Right
  
  Vegetarians have been around us all for decades Cassandra, I have family members who don’t eat meat….ok no worries.
  Big difference is they don’t make a song and dance about others eating meat or announce to everyone they are vegetarian.
  Vegans have made themselves an ongoing joke due to their superiority complex and believing they are a better human being than anyone else who isn’t a vegan.
  And why oh why do the buy food that resembles meat (steak/sausage/bacon) if they are so against actual meat.
  *All they are are activists, never met a vegan that is not a loud mouth left voter.
  *Apologies to all the vegans who are quiet and just get on with life, but I think everyone will agree they are a rarity.
  
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  January 20, 2026 8:48am
  - muzled
    
    It’s a pity we can’t insert pictures, but this is what I think of when I hear ‘vegan’
    
    https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/cramj1/some_last_words/?rdt=51024
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:05am
  - David Garrett
    
    Im right: I honestly believe that vegans are mentally ill – a look at any picture of our teeth shows that we are designed (by God or evolution, whichever) to eat meat.
    
    And as you say, they all feel the need to announce their condition to the world at every opportunity. And have you ever seen/met one who looks happy?
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:19am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Maybe its chlorophyll poisoning from all those leafy greens….
      
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      January 20, 2026 10:11am
    - Graeme Hall
      
      Look at the length of the human digestive tract. It indicates we are designed to handle many different types of food, unlike say a dog. Fruitarians are even more strict than vegans and they claim to be able to survive eating just fruit. Garritions must be closely related in diet to carnivores.
      
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      January 20, 2026 11:36am
    - wsk12345
      
      Just as if you look at a dogs teeth they are made to tear and crunch hard /crush and grind. And 95% of thr population feed them ultra processed kibble full of legumes that they can’t process. Thick people? On the whole people do not ask questions or think.
      
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      January 20, 2026 12:20pm
      - Albie
        
        As I mentioned the other day, most of the vet’s I have dealt with push the “science diet” kibble and are none to pleased when I tell them my dog only eats Raw Essentials raw meat blends . Perhaps there is no emphasis on nutrition as part of their studies?
        
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        January 20, 2026 1:24pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Same with ours. Kibble gave him allergies, scratching etc. Put him onto plain meat – some venison, & horse meat – properly prepared by a specialist in pet food.
        Allergies halved, scratching near gone – and is fitter.
        
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        January 20, 2026 1:37pm
    - In Vino Veritas
      
      Tend to agree David. A good steak is a meat substitute for broccoli….
      And on that note, a couple of clips from Awaken with JP on vegetarianism:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MpL1KfYEJg
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8
      
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      January 20, 2026 12:26pm
    - Im Right
      
      I have never seen one that looks healthy DG!
      I have seen them happy when in a group of like-minded vegans, but out in the wild…no!, miserable sods with chips on each shoulder and just itching for a reason to deliver a sermon.
      
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      January 20, 2026 1:06pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Human stomach acid pH at about 2 also shows that we evolved to exist primarily on a diet of meat hunting and scavenging carcasses.
      
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      January 20, 2026 3:54pm
  - sirknz
    
    Some of them are cannibalistic.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62964369
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:21am
- cmm
  
  There was a wave of fake vegan meats etc that were likely intended to capitalise on the guilt-driven people who wanted to be vegan but also didn’t want to miss out from eating familiar foods. Hence all the vegan “cheese”, “chicken” and other substitute products.
  
  However that fad seems to have been replaced by a more whole-foods oriented diet. If you want to eat beans then eat beans – no need to first process them into fake chicken.
  
  And if you want to eat meat – just eat meat.
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:10am
  - MCōs
    
    Bangkok has a vegetarian festival every year around our spring centred around Chinatown
    I don’t mind vegetarian food except the vendors go to great lengths to turn out dishes resembling chicken or pork that I don’t really fancy. The locals don’t mind; they’ll eat anything!
    You might think you’re doing your body a favour by eating imitation meat on the street or McDonalds, but who knows what other shit is in the cooking oil or tomato sauce
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:42am
  - wisteria
    
    There are also a range of Vegan products for gardening. Not sure whether they have told the bugs and insects that.
    
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    January 20, 2026 9:52am
- wsk12345
  
  I know quite a few vegetarians and vegans. NONE of them have any interest in eating fake meat products or products made to copy meat like hot dogs. One or two of the vegans eat vegan “cheese” and a few more have plant based yogurt, the vegetarians do not. On the whole they all eat a whole foods diet with almost no processed garbage other than the small amount of fake dairy mentioned. None of them would even consider buying “food” from a fast food restaurant like KFC so it’s unsurprising to me that nobody is buying their offerings. (It’s also considerably cheaper to eat a whole foods diet).
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:23am
Jack5

Three thousand participants at the economic forum at Davos that’s beginning about now, but the star speaker will be President Trump.

Anyone able to tell us who from NZ is at the big talk fest this year? The babble must be immense.

In 2023, Damien O’Connor, as Trade and Agriculture Minister, attended. Former PM Helen Clark seems to have been the leading NZ participant in 2024.

Davos 2025 included a forum for world indigenous people. There from NZ was Peter-Lucas Jones, leader of the tribal radio network, and, according to an official blurb, leader of a group that uses artificial intelligence to help preserve the Maori language.
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January 20, 2026 8:57am
- imalwaysright
  
  The WEF membership fees aren’t cheap.
  Min $130,000 NZD, up to $1.3 million.
  
  Membership gives you the right to buy a ticket to the annual conference, but only if they invite you, $54,000.
  
  Cost of the full week at Davos – travel, accommodation, food, fees etc can reach over $500K.
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:55am
- mogg
  
  -4* in Davis and the globalists are collecting to talk about global warming.
  
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  January 20, 2026 11:23am
  - sungsamning
    
    Wow! Irony and schadenfreude on the same day. Plus some liberal tears from Trump laying down the law.
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:57pm
Simon

A Black Power member has been sentenced to prison after instigating a dangerous shootout with rival gang members that started in Middlemore Hospital’s busy carpark.

“Both vehicles were driven in a way that presented extreme danger to the public,”

It resulted in a sentence of three years and eight months’ imprisonment.

Running gun battle & reckless driving 3 yrs & 8 months. Pathetic

This very weak sentence is due solely to the National party. Parliament is sovereign, controlled over time mostly by National. There are no excuses.
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January 20, 2026 8:58am
- Cassandra
  
  Green tick for the first part, red tick for the crack at the Nats. Labour even more guilty. But DG will be the authority.
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:07am
- imalwaysright
  
  Here’s a list of sentences for US Federal crimes, murder, drugs, child porn etc.
  
  Lots of heavy MINIMUM sentences even for first offenders.
  McSkimming would have got a minimum of 5 years.
  The gang members at the hospital carpark would all be doing 15 years min.
  
  https://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Chart-All-Fed-MMs.pdf
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:27am
- David Garrett
  
  Simon: Quite so….our sentences for violent crime are a sad joke compared to those imposed across the ditch.
  
  Kill a person for a second time, or kill two people at once in Oz, and the sentence will be minimum 25-30 years if not LWOP.
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:59am
  - AitchW
    
    To be fair DG unless there is some resurrection involved you can’t kill anyone a second time.
    You can commit a second murder however…..😉
    
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    January 20, 2026 4:04pm
Paulus

Biggest Davos problem is that the airport cannot handle the numbers of VIP Jets so they drop off and park elsewhere.
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January 20, 2026 9:10am
- cmm
  
  Yup, last time there were planes parking as far as Tunisia and Spain (over 1000 km away).
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:22am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Not unusual for jets to park where landing fees/parking are cheaper.
    
    During 2020 met a Corporate jet crew who had flown from Japan to park at Siem Reap, while they waited for their next assignment, Nice holiday of a week for them (2 pilots and a hostie).
    
    So its not always about cant park, but where is the most cost effective place to park for 4? days if you have nothing else to do.
    
    Wonders how Trump gets there(ST Moritz) the local airport is too small for 747 (Air force one). I spent a week at that Airport (St Moritz 5kms away) in 2010 🙂
    
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    January 20, 2026 7:36pm
- leoj
  
  …..complaining about everyone else’s carbon footprint while ignoring their own.
  
  Hypocrites and majority leftists.
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:58am
sungsamning

Well, they’re all Democrats. And guess who invented the KKK? Was it too cold to burn a cross? Bobby Kennedy will be looking down, and smiling. Is Don Lemon an ‘honorary Klansman’? There could be additional federal charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3s97v1qmXY
DOJ Confirms Don Lemon, BLM Will Be Charged With ‘KKK Act’ After Attacking Christians in Church.
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January 20, 2026 9:14am
sungsamning

Will WW3 be between the Fourth Reich and the USA? Will the French troops in Greenland have white flags for all? did P>Diddy send some baby oil? Will Trump accept their surrender at Davos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KngW9p4jw44
Europe Declares War on Trump? The Greenland Suicide Mission.
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January 20, 2026 9:14am
- Don Beckett
  
  I wonder how many people know about this ?
  
  https://www.cfr.org/blog/women-week-denmark-issues-apology-greenland-over-forced-sterilization.
  
  Through the 1960’s & 70’s the Danish govt. were forcing sterilisation on the Inuit women of Greenland.
  Wonder why //
  
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  January 20, 2026 3:24pm
Notsofast

Ani O’Brien writes a brilliant and thoroughly annotated article that is a withering attack on the nutters that suspect X of spoiling their agenda. I find X a vital platform to find what is going on, and have never noticed the depravity that Starmer and other crazies have winkled out of it.

https://open.substack.com/pub/aniobrien/p/rnzs-xgrok-political-hit-job?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=3ehku5

Note Helen Clark is active on X so our self appointed matriarch seems to not think it scares the horses.
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January 20, 2026 9:24am
- Philview
  
  Ani is very good and I hope she is making some money out of her freelance journalism. I note on Breakingviewsblog her articles are picking up anonymous criticism. The criticism is of the nature of “right wing mouthpiece” which makes her out to be a front for right wing groups. I am annoyed by that tone as so much of the media leans Left and even a mildly right wing article on a Substack and the Left activists go in there and have to attack the writer.
  
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  January 20, 2026 11:37am
  - NothingLeft
    
    The left really hate Ani because she is an off-the-reservation lesbian heretic. You’re not allowed to think for yourself when you are a member of a designated ‘victim’ demographic.
    
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    January 20, 2026 3:59pm
  - pdm
    
    I have been impressed the couple of times I have seen Annie [Ani] O’Brien on Garners `Editor in Chief’ blurbs.
    
    She is thoughtful and articulate and of course very easy on the eye. Speaks far better than Garner himself who is a bit of a fumbler and bumbler.
    
    Her substack is a must read these days.
    
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    January 20, 2026 4:29pm
    - Albie
      
      I’d love to know what was behind her bust up with Sean Plunket. If they could have worked together it would have been positive I am sure for conservative media.
      
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      January 20, 2026 5:00pm
BeaB

RNZ has started the year the way it means to go on. Luxon’s state of the nation speech wasn’t ‘sexy’ and he didn’t get a standing ovation at the end. If they could find a negative angle they used it and of course began with that childish sniggering which is so much a feature of their political reporting on the coalition.
And John Campbell hasn’t even started yet. God help us.
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January 20, 2026 9:25am
- Cassandra
  
  Why does the Government tolerate this? RNZ is a disgrace.
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:09am
  - David Garrett
    
    Good question…but their tolerating it – and many other things they don’t the courage to do – is precisely why Luxon is a liability and not a leader.
    
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    January 20, 2026 10:48am
    - David Garrett
      
      don’t HAVE the courage to do…
      
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      January 20, 2026 10:56am
  - MCōs
    
    Are you suggesting the government should censor the media?
    It’s one thing to criticize that which is published, but freedom of the media is sacrosanct in New Zealand these days except in extreme circumstances, which any criticism of the PM’ s bland speech certainly isn’t
    
    God Defend our Free Land and all that
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:27pm
    - Prince
      
      No, just stop propping it up with taxpayer money.
      
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      January 20, 2026 12:35pm
- AitchW
  
  BeaB why do you inflict RNZ on yourself?
  
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  January 20, 2026 4:05pm
Rusty

Will Jacinda be at the WEF (SPECTRE) conference?
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January 20, 2026 9:54am
- pdm
  
  Simple answer Rusty.
  
  Only if someone pays her to go.
  
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  January 20, 2026 4:31pm
imalwaysright

Spare a thought for all of those school children who haven’t had lunch for the last six weeks….
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January 20, 2026 10:00am
- Beach Haven expat
  
  Can you imagine how mouldy the lunches left over Christmas have gotten at Haeata Community Campus prior to Peggy dishing them out in a couple of weeks?
  
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  January 21, 2026 1:40am
Colville

Starlink.
We got it a few years ago as seemed a good idea for resilience etc.
Proved great in Gabrielle when we had coms where no one else did. We hung a router out the front window with a sign and a guest password . People loved it.
But. Its gone from $119 to $159 a month. Its just too much.
I contact them saying I want to downgrade to “residential” $79/mo. They “cant” do it. No slots available.
BUT. If I go to the sign up page I can get it if I am a new customer.
They wont budge. So f**k Elon. I will go back to Spark. Disappointing.
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January 20, 2026 10:03am
- cmm
  
  Starlink is interesting from a technical/business point of view.
  
  It is hard to see Starlink as a viable business model due to the way it operates. Starlink is LEO (low earth orbit) which means that the satellites move fast and have a very small footprint.
  
  This also means that their time above useful customers is very low and thus the amount of time that satellites can be used is pretty low. For example, most of the planet’s surface is almost entirely uninhabited (or is inhabited only by people who are unable to pay an internet subscription). ie. a satellite is only busy maybe 10% of the time.
  
  To get a reasonable coverage over high population areas means flying many tens of thousands of satellites (planned number is around 42,000). Since a satellite has about a 5 year lifetime, that means launching 8000 new satellites a year just to maintain the system.
  
  At maybe $1M per satellite (probably light), that’s $8 billion per year just to keep the satellites going. With about 10 million subscribers that’s $800 per year just in satellite build launch costs.
  
  The bargain is really for those in low population areas. They get the same number of satellites but share them between fewer people.
  
  It is hard to see that the numbers stack up unless there is some heavy funding from the US taxpayer.
  
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  January 20, 2026 11:50am
  - ISeeRed
    
    It’s not unreasonable that the customer base will increase to 25m, 50m or even 100m worldwide eventually. How do your numbers stack up then?
    
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    January 20, 2026 1:48pm
    - NothingLeft
      
      Exactly. Starlink is rapidly increasing bandwidth, and have capacity to grow user base inexorably with ever decreasing capital and maintenance costs due to diminishing launch costs.
      
      Rural fiber infrastructure won’t be able to compete with the prices they can offer – and if they choose to Starlink can put fixed infrastructure providers out of business.
      
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      January 20, 2026 4:05pm
Tauhei Notts

In cities such as Los Angeles and New York the new derogatory term for some women is “AWFUL”.
That is now an acronym that stands for Affluent White Female Urban Liberal.
So, never ever say that outfit looks awful on you. Unsuitable, but not awful.
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January 20, 2026 10:08am
- Cassandra
  
  Excellent!!
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:10am
- Dudley Quaffquaff
  
  Yes, there have always been derogatory terms for women unwilling to suit the convenience of men.
  
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  January 20, 2026 11:42am
  - kowtow
    
    And always been some lemon sucker ayatollah types who can’t appreciate a little bit of humour.
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:18pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    …And even worse terms for the women who don’t go along with the Feminist and Trans movements.
    
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    January 20, 2026 1:09pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    Are you Mike in disguise, Dudley? Same cynical, snide and sour tone to your comments.
    
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    January 20, 2026 1:33pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Lots and lots of silly questions too…
      
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      January 20, 2026 3:02pm
    - Dudley Quaffquaff
      
      Nope
      
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      January 20, 2026 3:51pm
Cassandra

For David:

Is Plant-Based Meat Healthy? Here’s What the Science Says
Plant-based meat (PBM) are meat alternatives made from plants (like soy, pea protein, wheat gluten) designed to mimic the taste, texture, and appearance of real meat, offering options for reducing meat consumption with environmental and health benefits, though often being ultra-processed, and are available as burgers, sausages, mince, and more from brands like Beyond Meat, Impossible Foods, and The Vegetarian Butcher
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January 20, 2026 10:13am
- cmm
  
  Then there are also eggless eggs products and dairy-less dairy products. All processed to hell and generally awful.
  
  I am the lone meat eater in a vegetarian (vegan most of the time) household. Been like that since 1987.
  
  I’ve tried the fake products a few times (we have just tried them to see what they taste like), but we don’t try to replicate meat eating. If you want to eat beans then eat beans. Sure, eat lentil burgers etc if you want to, but there is no need to pretend they are “just the same” as meat products.
  
  I am not at all surprised the fake products are tanking. The whole premise of trying to reproduce meat so that people don’t miss out is completely broken.
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:43am
- Flossie
  
  We are constantly told that “processed food” is NOT good. Just eat the peas and soy! Or for me, just eat the real meat.
  
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  January 20, 2026 10:44am
  - David Garrett
    
    Flossie: Especially home kill…nothing like a T bone steak off an animal which spent its whole life – right up to and including the day it was slaughtered – in the lush pastures of Rancho Garrett
    
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    January 20, 2026 10:51am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      Dialogue in the pub after a stock sale.
      Stock Agent; “I saw where you sold four lambs and bought three hoggets.”
      Farmer: Yes, the children cannot eat a pet lamb.
      
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      January 20, 2026 11:04am
      - David Garrett
        
        Tauhei: I recall when we first ate some homekill here at the ranch. One of the reasons I moved out here was so the kids knew where meat came from.
        
        I said to my daughter the first time we had homekill sausages: “Do you realise they are from one of our cows?”
        
        Daughter – aged about 7 said “Which one was it?”
        
        Me: “”Number 16” (we never named them for obvious reaons)
        
        Daughter: “I never much liked that one anyway.”
        
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        January 20, 2026 12:35pm
      - cmm
        
        DG: When I was about 5, I visited a friends’ farm a week before Christmas where I was attacked by a large tom turkey.
        
        We happened to visit again just before New Years. They had kept me a drumstick. Best tasting turkey I ever had!
        
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        January 20, 2026 4:41pm
  - Taieri
    
    We are constantly told that “processed food” is NOT good.
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    Any food that has been cooked is a “processed” food.
    For that matter, any food, the components of which have been changed in any way from their original state, is a “processed” food. This includes chopping, mincing, mixing and so on.
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:29pm
    - cmm
      
      “Any food that has been cooked is a “processed” food.”
      
      Clever clogs… Yes, if you want to be silly then even picking an apple off a tree is processing it as is washing it or even digesting it.
      
      Of course there are degrees of processing that any reasonable person understands.
      
      Our bodies are tuned in to eating food that has some degree of processing. Basically food that was available maybe 300 years ago or so when the processing was limited to basics like cutting, pounding, salting, smoking, fermenting, drying, cooking, etc.
      
      That is a far cry from modern chemical manipulation of foods – hydrogenated oils, high fructose corn syrups etc etc.
      
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      January 20, 2026 1:38pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      I call that, “preparing the food for human consumption”.
      
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      January 20, 2026 1:41pm
Chuck Bird

Just 10 minutes.

Victor Davis Hanson: AI Is Challenging ‘Climate Change Orthodoxy’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFcMzlxEA8
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January 20, 2026 10:58am
Yabster

Hobsons pledge

have your say on the new RMA.

https://www.fairplanning.nz/
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January 20, 2026 11:56am
- Ghost
  
  Mass submissions from places like this are a waste of time. If you want your submission to count and not be treated as a bulk submission make your own submission directly from the parliament website.
  
  https://www3.parliament.nz/en/pb/sc/make-a-submission/document/54SCENV_SCF_BA467863-D6B0-4968-1027-08DE369D9192/planning-bill-and-natural-environment-bill
  
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  January 20, 2026 12:25pm
  - Yabster
    
    Ghost has spoken- you must be a lot of fun at party’s mate… nope not a waste of time the link gives and overview of the issues and yes, a template but it invites people to add their own words .. it also gets the issue out there- but thanks for your opinion….
    
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    January 20, 2026 12:50pm
    - Ghost
      
      If you don’t pay attention that’s up to you. If you did pay attention you’d know submissions like this are ignored, counted as one submission. The only way to be counted is make your own submission, not use a template, and use the government site. But hey, if you care so little that you want your submission to be ignored, go for it. Might as well not even make a submission since it will be counted as one. Some of you never learned from the 3 waters submissions or treaty principles submissions, then still cry that your mass submissions are ignored
      
      They treated our 20,000+ submissions as ONE
      
      Might as well piss into the wind if you use these sites
      
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      January 20, 2026 12:59pm
      - Graeme Hall
        
        No party that wants to get re-elected will treat 20,000 submissions on an issue as one submission. They may say they count 20,000 as one, they may hire stooges to say so, they may have influencers on social media trying to discourage people, but sure as hell, they count them up and take heed in the backroom. Twenty thousand motivated voters can win or lose an election and who of these politicians wants to give up power?
        
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        January 20, 2026 2:52pm
      - Ghost
        
        Nope, and the rules have been around for a long time, which is why it is important people stop believing these groups that want you to feed your submission through them and use your own brain, make your own submission, or just waste your time and don’t be counted
        
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        January 20, 2026 3:07pm
      - pdm
        
        `No party that wants to get re-elected will treat 20,000 submissions on an issue as one submission.’
        
        GH – they did with the Treaty Principles Bill and then counted the rote submissions AGAINST as individual submissions so it is said.
        
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        January 20, 2026 4:34pm
pdm

Does anyone know why I can only log in with Patreon (to which I do not subscribe) on my phone but, can log in normally on my laptop?
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January 20, 2026 11:59am
- mogg
  
  Happens to me, try cancelling then enter details again, works for me. Expect a new batch of adds at every move you make on your phone.
  
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  January 20, 2026 2:09pm
  - pdm
    
    mogg thanks.
    
    One of the imponderables of Kiwiblog GD.
    
    I got 3 downticks so far for my questions.
    You at least got 2 upticks and 1 downtick. I added the 3rd uptick in appreciation for your help.
    
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    January 20, 2026 4:38pm
waripori

Trump has told the Prime Minister of Norway in writing that , because Norway did not give him the Nobel Peace Prize he no longer cares about peace and is not committed to a peaceful takeover of Greenland.

George R R Martin is going to to have to rethink his version of a mad king. Reality has overtaken fantasy and it is time for fantasy to up its game.
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January 20, 2026 1:02pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  If there was any doubt that Trump is a complete imbecile, surely this letter removes it.
  
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  January 20, 2026 3:26pm
  - RichardX
    
    Imbecile might be a tad harsh.
    
    The issue is Trump himself has said the only restriction on his power is “My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me”
    
    When you realise that Trump is the guy who cheats at golf, has cheated on all his wives, sells access to the Presidency, lies without hesitation, frequently violates the emoluments clause, issues pardons without knowing why, violated the constitution with an executive order (Birthright as per 14th amendment), etc, etc, etc. you start to think that his own morality and/or mind isn’t up to the task.
    
    The list of his immoral actions is much much longer but it’s pretty depressing to keep listing them out.
    
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    January 20, 2026 4:53pm
    - waripori
      
      I don’t think he is an imbecile either. He has the cunning and instincts of Lucky Luciano. That would be bad in a president. Unfortunately he also has a personality disorder of some kind and it now looks as though he has dementia. America went through that with the Dems covering up for Biden and now the GOP is covering up for Trump. It probably serves them right and we could stand back and laugh if he did not have the future of the world in his hands.
      
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      January 20, 2026 6:36pm
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    It was a text in response to one he received.
    
    This is one policy and I really don’t understand why he is so fixated on it.
    
    I haven’t seen anything that really does explain an imperative for the USA to incorporate Greenland.
    
    On the plus side, planes are starting to fly Somalians home.
    
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    January 20, 2026 6:31pm
- RichardX
  
  Trump’s entire statement is pretty mind blowing.
  
  “Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”
  
  https://x.com/nickschifrin/status/2013107018081489006
  
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  January 20, 2026 6:09pm
Swifty

Amelia is really taking off online:

https://x.com/nickbuckleymbe/status/2013194442652402121?s=46

The left can’t meme, but the right do it well, frequently.
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January 20, 2026 1:03pm
- Yabster
  
  love it- can Amelia do one for NZ also…
  
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  January 20, 2026 1:47pm
Ghost

I want you to imagine something.

I don’t think most people could even begin to imagine the horrors that her brother and others went through at their “Christian” camp

Elizabeth is the founder of No More Victims, an advocacy organization that passes child protection laws, and has served as the executive director of the Phillips Foundation since 2013. After her younger brother Trey died by suicide in 2019, following childhood sexual abuse at Kanakuk Kamps and a restrictive NDA. She is a SMU who has become a national voice for survivor justice. Elizabeth works on cases related to child sexual abuse, trafficking and negligence as a certified crim

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January 20, 2026 3:05pm
cmm

Is it just me, or are Stuff running some sort of image manipulation filters?

I have never seen Nichola Willis in person, but I’m pretty sure that her picture has been manipulated here to make her look older/harder.

If so, what scumbags. How can anyone take you seriously if you’re doing that.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360926910/mood-workforce-bishop-outranks-other-senior-nat-ministers-including-pm
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January 20, 2026 3:05pm
- RoboRob
  
  You forced me to go to Stuff !
  
  All of the images are bad. Stuff clearly selected he worst image for each poli they could easily find. That some of the woman still look good says a lot 🙂
  
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  January 20, 2026 3:29pm
- Ghost
  
  A screenshot from the state of the nation speech. I’d say more than likely they just grabbed the worst shot among the video than altered it
  
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  January 20, 2026 3:55pm
  - Christopher Thomson
    
    Imagine manipulation is par for the course for those propaganda rags.
    
    They just can’t stop themselves.
    
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    January 20, 2026 6:38pm
- cmm
  
  I looked at at least 20 photos of her taken during the last 3 months. In all of those her skin looks far smoother than she appears in that photo which I suspect could be tampered with.
  
  It seems pretty easy to do such manipulations in photoshop etc:
  
  https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how-to-make-someone-look-older-in-adobe-photoshop–cms-25973
  
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  January 20, 2026 4:36pm
  - Ghost
    
    It’s obvious from the footage form the state of the nation that she’s spent the summer in the sun. One sign that it hasn’t been tampered is you don’t see any comment from her about the photo
    
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    January 20, 2026 7:52pm
- Albie
  
  cmm, Did you ever notice when they publish images of our previous PM she always looks young and glamorous? She can also look gawky depending on the photo. You just have to watch Gutfeld on Fox News to see how the media will pick the worst or best images to suit the narrative at the time.
  
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  January 20, 2026 5:10pm
Swifty

Failed Chinese rocket filmed coming down:

https://x.com/akafaceus/status/2013339679064760615?s=46
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January 20, 2026 3:45pm
- Ghost
  
  Is the question, why aren’t china aiming to send taikonauts to the moon until the 30’s?
  
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  January 20, 2026 4:08pm
  - greybeard
    
    Because they watched all of those videos of the 1969 “Moon Landings” and realised that it was still impossible.
    
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    January 20, 2026 6:57pm
    - Mike
      
      Is the US still pretending it will land humans on the Moon in 2029?
      
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      January 20, 2026 7:19pm
      - Ghost
        
        To save money Trump has announced NASA will be landing at Craters of the Moon in Taupo.
        
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        January 20, 2026 7:50pm
      - AitchW
        
        Why would it not. They’re going round the moon next month . Or are you a moon landing denier?
        
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        January 20, 2026 9:36pm
- cmm
  
  Second question: is it real or is this more AI at work?
  
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  January 20, 2026 4:28pm
Swifty

Great to see affirmative action policies lifting Aboriginal achievement in Aussie:

https://x.com/actualalexjames/status/2013135974071468333?s=46
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January 20, 2026 3:51pm
cmm

GP gets reprimanded in Oz for calling a crazy bitch a crazy bitch.

Maybe he forgot he was in Australia. Should have called her a fukkin crazy bitch!

C’mon, what else do you call that crazy mushroom woman?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/australian-doctor-who-raised-alarm-on-erin-patterson-closes-practice/IS3IWQ6OCNGSVLAEKJFYOQCVJM/
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January 20, 2026 4:26pm
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: Absolutely…perhaps the good doctor might wish to set up over here – we need good doctors, especially plain spoken ones!
  
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  January 20, 2026 5:14pm
Sparrow

I have noticed that there are many Trump supporters on this blog. But here goes. The man is deranged. Two very recent examples to add to the pile. He threw out his toys when he did not get the peace prize so as retribution he wants Greenland. Has asked Putin to join the Gaza Peace Group. This is the man who invaded the Ukraine its mind boggling. Please don’t tell me its negotiating tactics. He is unhinged. How long before he is impeached?
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January 20, 2026 5:01pm
- greybeard
  
  I agree. And I think it is all to do with him knowing that his earthly days are numbered and he just wants to make an impression. At any cost.
  
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  January 20, 2026 6:46pm
- Mike
  
  Don’t underestimate the ability of Trumpistas to sanewash their idol’s ravings. It’s a cult, and the members are adept at making their perception of reality consistent with with their beloved leader’s fantasies.
  
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  January 20, 2026 7:11pm
- nz_aj
  
  Media reporting is mostly biased, via selective reporting, pushing the opposition talking points and agenda. They could be accused of being deranged.
  Arguably he should have received the peace prize. Noting Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado has given her Nobel Peace Prize medal to President Donald Trump.
  He says many outlandish things, this is his style and method of negotiation. There are many reasons to want Greenland, I suspect it’s for minerals, similar to Venezuelas oil, but muddying it up by linking to peace prize is just piling on “reasons” along with defence and greenlanders wanting independance from Denmark.
  Russia has circulated a competing Gaza proposal to Trumps that removes the transitional authority component and calls on the UN to consider options for an international stabilization force. It includes more forceful language affirming a two-state solution and emphasizes that Gaza and the West Bank must be united under the Palestinian Authority. Just because Russia is continuing to invade Ukraine isn’t stopping them and their allies pushing opposing agendas at the UN. Dialogue needs to continue hence Trump negotiating for Putians support.
  
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  January 20, 2026 7:13pm
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  He’ll be impeached many more times if Dems take control of the house.
  
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  January 20, 2026 7:27pm
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  One of two things will happen in the next year. Someone will kill him, and he’s created so many enemies, even amongst allies, no one will know who’s responsible. Or his lifestyle will kill him.
  
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  January 20, 2026 7:57pm
Swifty

The absence of strong leadership is why New Zealand is in terminal decline:

https://x.com/rothmus/status/2013424629621088549?s=46
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January 20, 2026 7:40pm
Jack5

David Seymour, ACT chief and current Deputy Prime Minister, discusses the NZ-India Free Trade Deal at the Platform.

ACT supports it.

The Sean Plunket video clip available to non-subscribers is too short for Seymour to build its case for the FTA, but Seymour confirms ACT is for it.

It’s good that the Coalition parties are clarifying their position on the India-NZ FTA well ahead of this year’s general election.

https://youtu.be/vdJm-1hbzsE?si=bG_L6HqkTt7eklT5
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January 20, 2026 8:54pm
Swifty

Goff and Finlayson clearly don’t think much of Winston:

https://x.com/2eteka/status/2013355033199550581?s=46
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  😲 Oh dear, Wikipedia’s list of world populist parties, leaders and movements includes Christopher Luxon and David Seymour — as well as New Zealand First.
  
  This is its NZ section of populists: Robert Muldoon (1975-1984), New Zealand First, Christopher Luxon, and David Seymour.
  
  India’s Prime Minister, Narendra Damodardas Modi, is in the populist list, too.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_populists
  
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  January 20, 2026 9:46pm
Albie

I agree Swifty, but from our shallow pool of potential candidates who would you pick to be our benign dictator?
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