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sungsamning

Susan Kokinda argues that a Trump-Putin phone call signaled alignment in blaming Zelenskyy and European governments for prolonging the Ukraine war, followed by the Kremlin confirming a Victory Day ceasefire. [The medis focused on the visit by King Charles. The UAE had left OPEC, and is friendly with Israel. The Pentagons Office of Strategic Capital can finance industrial capacity. Goodbye ‘post war order.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va64Bx4T9sY
BURIED: The Trump-Putin Agreement the Media Completely Hid
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May 3, 2026 8:09am
- All_on_Red
  
  Ukraine is going to win the War against Russia
  Discuss
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:01am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Red. If you want a debate put up your argument.
    Just saying “”discuss”” is at the top end of stupid in a forum like this.
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:02pm
    - David Garrett
      
      Ra: not as bad as the puerile “Asking for a friend “
      
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      May 3, 2026 2:37pm
      - Ra Henare
        
        At least teh asking for a friend is attached to humour. Discuss is just a meaningless word
        
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        May 3, 2026 6:17pm
      - Graham Sharpe
        
        Why would you say that, David? Asking for a friend.
        
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        May 3, 2026 7:41pm
- pb
  
  http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/79660
  
  Araghchi meets Putin in St Petersburg. Putin then called Trump. Offered condolences over assassination attempt (ironic given drone attack on his home in Novgorod). Then he called Israel.
  
  Diplo-speak for don’t you dare.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:39am
  - kowtow
    
    pb
    
    Talking of dares.
    
    Is it true that the Moscow May Day parade has been bigly scaled back because Putin’s doing so well with his invasion of Ukr .
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:32pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Zelensky is Ukraine’s Ardern, a puppet of the moneymakers.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:51am
  - Michael Johnston
    
    That’s a foolish comparison. How well do you think Ardern would have coped in Zylensky’s shoes? Keiv would have fallen years ago with her in charge.
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:07pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Puppets don’t ‘cope’ with anything, that’s the point.
      Their strings are pulled by others.
      
      I thought the analogy was obvious.
      
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      May 3, 2026 3:34pm
- BananaLlama
  
  I think more it is about oil than anything, Urals Oil trading over $100 a barrel despite being sanctioned. Crazy. None of these wars are going to end anytime soon.
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:39pm
sungsamning

President Donald Trump granted a Presidential permit on April 30, authorizing a Wyoming-based company to construct and operate oil pipeline facilities at the U.S.-Canada border in Phillips County, Montana. [It only has to stretch 2000 yards to connect the former Keystone XL pipeline to the USA. It’ll convey everything except Natural Gas. ]
https://dallasexpress.com/national/trump-approves-major-oil-pipeline-at-us-canada-border-in-montana/
Trump Approves Major Oil Pipeline At US-Canada Border In Montana.
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May 3, 2026 8:09am
- kowtow
  
  In case anyone forgets how dangerously stupid Biden and the Dems are .
  One of his first acts as Pres was to cancel Keystone , because climate change.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:25am
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, it cost 58,000 jobs. If Harris was in the Whitehouse, my car wouldn’t move an inch. And I’d have no hair left by now. Thank God there is a competent president, and cabinet there.
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:10pm
    - alwyn.a
      
      “And I’d have no hair left by now”.
      Don’t worry. You could be like the Donald and get a nice bright orange wig with a comb-over.
      
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      May 3, 2026 11:19pm
Cassandra

David Seymour on ACT’s immigration policy: The country needs new migrants to grow and develop. The proposed system would only welcome people if they share values of tolerance, freedom and democracy, help build infrastructure and play by the rules.

“Success requires a common set of expectations; respect our freedoms, uphold our democratic values, contribute to infrastructure, speak English, obey the law, and fill genuine gaps in the economy.”

Why NZ has thousands of immigrants driving taxis and a whole lot of the Matua’s nephs on their couches is perplexing.

One interesting proposal is any Indian under the age of 65 observed applauding a Black Caps wicket loss would be automatically and immediately deported. (I’m searching for the link).
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May 3, 2026 8:13am
- Scott
  
  This is why I like grumpy old Winston. He is the only party leader in the NZ parliament that is not in favour of mass immigration.
  Stop mass immigration!
  Stop bringing in thousands of people mostly from Asia and changing our entire demographic.
  Stop bringing in thousands of people every year and making our housing market unaffordable, our hospitals overcrowded, traffic in major cities unbearable and young people unemployed.
  Just stop. No more mass immigration.
  
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  May 3, 2026 8:26am
  - kowtow
    
    And despite holding the balance of power , on and off ,for 30 odd years , he has presided over exactly how much mass immigration in that time.
    
    Winstone First does talk a good talk , but that’s as far as it goes .All talk , no action.
    
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    May 3, 2026 10:27am
    - Scott
      
      Winston is head of a minor party and has never had the power to stop the bipartisan juggernaut of mass immigration.
      
      But. But. He’s the only one that even talked about it. The only one that has consistently been against it.
      I think people don’t realise what politicians do. They speak and they legislate. Winston has never had the power and the numbers to legislate.
      
      But he has a voice. Against considerable bipartisan opposition from both major parties and our horrible mainstream media he alone for years was a voice in the wilderness opposing the sacred cow of mass immigration.
      
      He should be given credit for that. And even now all the other parties appear to be for mass immigration? Still. Despite all the problems of mass immigration throughout the world including Australia.
      
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      May 3, 2026 1:21pm
      - kowtow
        
        If he genuinely felt as strongly about it as you make out he could have made it a “bottom line” in his negotiations variously with National and Labour .
        
        As it is he never did .
        
        He should , as they say , put up or shut up.
        
        But no from the outset he makes a virtue of Asian bashing ( mid 90’s the Chinese ) to get into power and now he’s at it again , Indian bashing to keep his numbers up.
        
        And despite his status as “king maker” , he’s never delivered once in office.
        
        Your vote is far too precious to repeatedly waste on this trickster.
        
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        May 3, 2026 2:02pm
      - sungsamning
        
        They’ve got a new family friendly policy that was announced recently.
        
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        May 3, 2026 3:12pm
      - Scott
        
        Kowtow – it’s not Chinese bashing. It’s speaking against mass immigration.
        And yes he got labelled as racist for it.
        You’re exactly exactly missing the point. You’re exactly repeating the same charge all the good and the great levelled against him. It’s asia bashing.
        
        No it’s against mass immigration. It’s against the people of NZ, white and Maori mostly, being replaced by literally a million foreigners from Asia.
        
        Your reply is a perfect illustration of the problem. Mass immigration is the problem. Do you still not get that?
        
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        May 3, 2026 5:16pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      Immigration policy is set by Minister of Immigration.
      Winston has never held that portfolio.
      He has been:
      Minister of Foreign Affairs Some 3 decades under 3 different Prime Ministers.
      Minister of Racing
      Minister of State Owned Enterprises
      Minister for Rail
      and off course his first portfolio
      Minster of Maori affairs
      
      No portfolios anywhere near Immigration!
      
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      May 3, 2026 2:10pm
      - kowtow
        
        Not about ministries , it’s about the power he had , as king maker .
        
        Ok then , if immigration was so important to him why didn’t he insist on that ministry .Instead of the gee gees he’s so fond of ,and attached to …….
        
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        May 3, 2026 4:59pm
  - septic skeptic
    
    If you took the immigrants out of the hospitals there would be somewhat fewer patients but F all medical staff to treat them.
    
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    May 3, 2026 11:46am
  - Northshoredoc
    
    Winston plays to his base, bigoted old numpties.
    
    What most of them eventually realise is that he seldom if ever follows throuogh on what he says.
    
    Hence DGs epiphet for him is perfect – The Great Charlatan.
    
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    May 3, 2026 12:11pm
    - kowtow
      
      Apart from the Great Covid scam GE, ‘jacinda saved us ‘ that saw him deposed he always manages to find that certain constituency .Ironically after that ouster he got the anti mandate folk on side , and ta da ;he’s back.
      
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      May 3, 2026 1:06pm
    - Ra Henare
      
      So, we get it. You dont like Winston. 🙂
      
      You obviously have no idea about NZ First supporter makeup.
      
      You also have never had any dealings of a political(or other) nature with Winston.
      
      DGs (a failed politicain) epithhet could be a case of sour grapes.???? against another politicain.
      
      Rule Number one re politicians. They all lie!!!
      
      You might be interested in John Mersheimers book
      Why Leaders Lie: The Truth About Lying in International Politics (2011)
      
      It applies equally as well to NZ Politics.
      
      PS> NZ Firsts supporters over 50 amount to some 25% hardly an overwhelming number.
      
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      May 3, 2026 2:16pm
      - leoj
        
        The ONLY thing you need to know about Winston is that he completely f#*ked the country in 2017.
        
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        May 3, 2026 5:05pm
- Nikola Donatello
  
  “Why NZ has thousands of immigrants driving taxis and a whole lot of the Matua’s nephs on their couches is perplexing.”
  
  It is a bad sign for New Zealand. But it is not perplexing. Would you trust your taxi to a sullen, angry, resentful person? How about letting them pick fruit in your orchard?
  
  Nothing perplexing.
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:00am
  - imalwaysright
    
    “… a sullen, angry, resentful person.”
    
    And that’s precisely how their Maori activist self appointed representatives like it.
    
    If Maori youth were encouraged to fulfil their potential instead of being taught the fine arts of victimhood, the activists would be out of a job and the youth would be working.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:12am
  - surfing
    
    Nurses too.
    
    I don’t know why maori culture bang on about being caring , but, they sure don’t like being nurses.
    
    There would be more maori doctors than nurses.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:16am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Why would you need Maori nurses, when every nurse is required to undergo cultural safety training? Better just to outsource the job, eh.
      
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      May 3, 2026 10:44am
    - Ghost
      
      the 2025 workforce survey shows 20,530 practising doctors in NZ. 5.5% are Māori, so 1,130 Māori Doctors
      
      https://www.mcnz.org.nz/about-us/news-and-updates/media-release-2/
      
      7% of the 82,377 Nurse workforce are Māori, so 5,638 Māori Nurses.
      
      https://nursingcouncil.org.nz/common/Uploaded%20files/Public/Publications/other_reports/2025-08-international-nurse-migration-nz-report.pdf
      
      perhaps if we want more Māori Nurses, we could drop the policy of 1,100 hours of unpaid clinical placements, not easy to do when you come from a poor background.
      
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      May 3, 2026 11:21am
      - KKNZ2025
        
        What happened to all the Maori graduates of the last 2 decades of ~40% reserved medical school places (at lower entry qualifications & subsidised fees) so they could then give support back to their impoverished culture?
        
        Ethnicity doesn’t determine poverty.
        
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        May 3, 2026 12:13pm
      - Ghost
        
        They’re doctors and nurses. How many do you actually think have gone through the programs the last 2 decades? Hint, it’s not likely anywhere near how many you think
        
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        May 3, 2026 3:01pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        “…not easy to do when you come from a poor background.”
        
        Sounding a bit like Biden: “Poor kids are just as smart as white kids.”
        
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        May 3, 2026 3:40pm
      - Ghost
        
        1,100 hours of unpaid work. 28 to 30 weeks working for free, hands up who could or would do that, honestly, not lying to look good
        
        I wouldn’t
        
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        May 3, 2026 3:53pm
      - wsk12345
        
        You do realise that they are unpaid because like teacher trained they are not yet sufficiently skilled to do anything unsupervised. They are learning hours not free work hours.
        
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        May 3, 2026 5:49pm
    - Northshoredoc
      
      How would you know a Dr or Nurse is maori?
      
      All the people I work with don’t wear a badge proclaiming their ethnicity.
      
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      May 3, 2026 12:08pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        I’m thinking of becoming a Maori…
        
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        May 3, 2026 3:42pm
  - artemisia
    
    Exactly. Employers hire those who they assess will turn up and do the job. Otherwise not so much.
    
    Meanwhile fruit picking will increasingly not be done by humans. New Zealand already exports apple packing robotics to the world.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:22am
    - Simon Arnold
      
      Just noted in passing https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/03/260317064512.htm “AI-powered robot learns how to harvest tomatoes more efficiently”
      
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      May 3, 2026 11:44am
      - artemisia
        
        Very smart. Especially bots picking the easy ones and humans the others. For now. The basics are in place and will of course get better as benefits exceed costs.
        
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        May 3, 2026 1:16pm
      - Taieri
        
        AI-powered robot
        ———
        
        Electric motor powered. AI can’t “power” anything, it can only be used to control what motor does.
        
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        May 3, 2026 1:44pm
    - Jack5
      
      T&G Global in Hawke’s Bay is one of the NZ firms pionerring robotic picking of apples.
      
      The machine operators will earn more than human pickers, but will increase national productivity, which is output per unit of labour.
      
      Hope the T&G research isn’t lost as the German firm, BayWa, which has owned nearly three-quarters of the company since 2012, seeks to sell its stake.
      
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      May 3, 2026 12:27pm
      - artemisia
        
        2D apple trees for robot picking are being planted.
        
        The RSE scheme will increasingly be impacted.
        
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        May 3, 2026 1:20pm
- MCōs
  
  One day a policeman came to my house to investigate a burglary. He was a South African.
  He was annoyed that the Springbok had just lost to the ABs.
  Should I have told him to go back where he came from from?
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:19am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    no
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:45am
- David George
  
  Reposted:
  I see ACT are planning on getting tough on immigration bludgers and criminals. Good!
  1.⁠ ⁠Serious offenders deported if they they have been in New Zealand for less than 20 years
  2.⁠ ⁠Skill categories immigrant employers have to prove up-to-date evidence of demand every year.
  3.⁠ Five-year welfare stand down period for all residence class visa holders to access social welfare.
  4.⁠ A $6 per day infrastructure surcharge on temporary work visas.
  5.⁠ ⁠Stronger English language requirements.
  6.⁠ ⁠Enforce the rules with a dedicated overstayer enforcement unit under Immigration NZ. Employers who facilitated overstaying would lose their accreditation.
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:20am
  - sungsamning
    
    They’re trying to steal votes from NZF. Good on them. NZFs record has room for improvement.
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:18pm
- nz_aj
  
  I’d like an explanation of why the NZ govt thinks a 2% population growth rate is the right number. This is what treasury uses for long term predictions, and what it has averaged historically for a long time.
  The NZ birth rate is well below replacement, so population growth rate can be completely controlled.
  Arguably the cost of electricty, congestion, etc. is all driven by population. We dont have any more cheap sources of electricty to develop, i.e. hydro, gas. Expanding the roads we have through cities is very expensive.
  Reducing the population growth rate, i.e. immigration should surely ease costs and need to spend?
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:25am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    I am not a demography expert. However, without immigration, New Zealand’s population would not just stagnate or shrink. It would age dramatically.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:47am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      True. It might also drive policy change that encourages young people to have children. Importing people simply masks the the symptoms of the problem.
      
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      May 3, 2026 10:00am
      - Flossie
        
        I think there’s quite a big problem that the young people having babies are perhaps not the young people we would like to be having babies
        
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        May 3, 2026 12:57pm
    - Jack5
      
      Other effects on population growth?
      
      – NZ’s back door to Australia, meaning thousands can move to a relatively close country with higher wages. This affects perception of NZ wage levels. ;
      
      – Housing cost and wages that make setting up a family a challenge for many;
      
      – Culture. Effects of present culture on perceived values and status of creating families and raising children.
      
      – Changing attitudes to thrift, which haven’t helped enable finance for family housing. Housing relates to demand for families and children.
      
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      May 3, 2026 11:49am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    In terms of ACT policy, I’d like to see the removal of the path to residence for all overseas students below the level of a Masters degree.
    
    By all means come here, pay your fees, understand what it is to live in a First World democracy (I know, I know) and then return home armed with that experience. I do think that this could be a useful contribution by NZ to the world, showcasing the rule of law and so on.
    
    I expect overseas student numbers would plummet, which would expose the lie that our academic institutions have been plugging all these years. It might also cause them to reflect on what change they have to make to become better at their fundamental job.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:59am
- KH
  
  Growing population through immigration is bad business. Shooting ourselves in the economic foot.
  We need to get richer, not bigger.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:04am
- pb
  
  Mass immigration is driven by corporate greed married to political expediency. The parties whom betray their people will be punished. The idea that we need Indians to be successful is evil.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:42am
- Media hater
  
  The majority of those taxi drivers would have got their resident visas in ‘skilled’ employment, like Chefs, retail managers (at liquor stores, dairies) and as care givers.
  
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  May 4, 2026 10:03am
Nukuleka

Interesting to see that one Susan Wallace has been selected as the new Anglican Bishop of Te Waipounamu. Her father Richard was the previous Bishop. He died in 2024, the same year that Susan was ordained as a priest. Two years a priest and then Susan was elected as a Bishop to succeed her father. Wow! Maori tikanga at work?
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May 3, 2026 8:29am
- Cassandra
  
  Complete with a tattooed face. Ticks all the boxes, although to be fair she has some good work experience. I wonder what the size of her flock is and therefore the relevance of her work. And above all I wonder about a segregated church. Jesus would not have allowed this. In his church all are welcome. I’m going to a concert at our local Anglican this afternoon. Beethoven so I don’t expect too many tattoos.
  
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  May 3, 2026 8:37am
  - pdm
    
    Te Waipounamu I assume is the whole South Island. I know that by watching TVNZ weather forecasts where even the imported pom refers to the South Island by that name these days.
    
    As a christened Anglican (non attending most if not all of my life) I am still surprised that someone with so little experience would be appointed to what would appear to be a very big role.
    
    I do know that Maori have long had an association with the Anglican Church because when my parents married in March 1945 in Porangahau the Vicar that officiated was a Maori – The Reverend Kaa.
    
    If my memory is right (from what my mother told me not because I was present at the wedding) Reverend Kaa was the local Anglican Church Vicar as well as Vicar for the local Maori Church which was (in that quaint term of those times) on the Maori side of the village.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:08am
    - Jethrod
      
      The Rev. Hone Kaa was very well respected amongst his flock, respect even reaching the Eastern BOP
      
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      May 3, 2026 10:05am
    - TripeWryter
      
      PDM: Archdeacon Kaa was ecumenical.
      Two of my nieces and a nephew were accorded a Catholic baptism in his church at Porangahau.
      I was there for two of them plus my oldest niece’s first holy communion.
      I think I read somewhere that he later went to Sydney as a pastor for Maoris over there, and died there.
      He was a good man.
      
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      May 3, 2026 10:49am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    It makes you wonder about where her first loyalties lie – to Maoridom or to the Anglican Church. When the chips are down, which way will she jump?
    
    It’s not a question that would ever have had to have been asked of the Anglican primates of the 19th century.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:32am
    - Paulus
      
      Do not Maiki’s loyalty lies to Maoridom from where she gets her bellicose temperament.
      Why does she not have painted face yet ?
      
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      May 3, 2026 9:41am
  - Jethrod
    
    Report back whether it starts with a karakia.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:38am
- Flossie
  
  Doesn’t it sound strange! Of course we could wonder how many “applicants” for the job there were. It’s always possible she was the best person regardless of gender ethnicity etc.
  
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  May 3, 2026 8:37am
  - Flossie
    
    Oops. Forgot the //
    
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    May 3, 2026 8:39am
- imalwaysright
  
  You would think that a priest with only two years experience would appreciate that the job of being a Bishop would be beyond them at present.
  
  That she has accepted the job indicates that perhaps the title, rather than the duties, is what interests her most?
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:25am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    You’d have to think that there aren’t too many Maori Anglican priests to select from. After all, there’s no way the Anglicans could parachute in a Maori from the North Is for the South Is diocese. Limiting the candidate pool to ordained Maori Anglicans from the South Is would, you would have to think, leave you fishing in a very small pool.
    
    Still, Susan Wallace looks like a cheery person, and I wish her all the luck in the world.
    
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    May 3, 2026 10:06am
- Gravelroad
  
  I have a friend who was born into, and brought up by, a Roman Catholic family. All good.
  The church (medium sized town) was once a vibrant place of worship with a nice building, a lot of money and a large, active congregation
  Now building is in disrepair, no money and depleted community. But biggest problem apparently, is very few of the faith in NZ want to be ordained as priests and nuns.
  There is no ordained priest there now.
  There is some sort of visiting rota and occasionally one from offshore comes for a while and then slopes off back home.
  Last one was a very pleasant chap from Papua New Guinea.
  Friend said they hadn’t seen a bishop in many years and didn’t expect to.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:27am
  - MCōs
    
    ‘Slopes off back home’ could be considered an offensive term
    Returned to PNG or wherever
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:37pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      When I lived in Oz, slopes referred to mainly Asian immigrants – particularly Vietnamese. There were constant gang skirmishes in West Sydney & elsewhere between ‘Slopes & Lebs’ – essentially, Vietnamese migrants during & after the Vietnam war, & Lebanese – & other Middle East migrants. I got to know a few of both ethnicities & found them good & courteous people.
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:36pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      slope off
      verb
      (informal, intransitive) To depart quietly, without being noticed.
      
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      May 3, 2026 6:06pm
- pb
  
  Anglican church members have been declining fast for a decade, 50% roll cull. Transgender flags and diversity hires are a symptom of the collapse. The collapse of the anglican churches heralds the collapse of the west. If you want to know.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:51am
  - sungsamning
    
    Evangelical churches aren’t collapsing. They’re full, because they kept the doctrine. The mainline ones discarded it.
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:24pm
  - MCōs
    
    My wife is a devout Buddhist & I was brought up in a devout Catholic family
    The attitudes of the two groups are worlds apart, from my observation. The cohesion of Catholicism seems to be based on obligation, suffering, sacrifice. Go to church on Sunday, sit up straight and be quiet. Have faith.
    As soon as people start to ask why things fall apart
    
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    May 3, 2026 4:13pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      At all times throughout 2000 years of history, Catholics have been questioning – like when Martin Luther went too far and started the Protestant Revolt. You obviously remember only your childhood days. 🙂
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:42pm
      - MCōs
        
        In my childhood days the church we went to had four Masses each Sunday morning plus one every other day .
        Now the church plus the school behind it are gone.
        That’s outcome of the point I’m making.
        
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        May 3, 2026 9:17pm
- greybeard
  
  Another nail in the Anglican coffin: watch for the number of church attendees to decline rapidly.
  
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  May 3, 2026 11:10am
RockyJ

Early signs the tide may be starting to turn on the Maorification of New Zealand insanity prevalent in the public sector.

Auckland Transport has announced that English names will be applied to its rail routes when the new rail loop finally opens. The article shows how te Reo names were considered. The new name of East-west line will prevail over Matatā line, Onehunga line over Hihi and South-city over Tūī line.

Reasons the te Reo names were not chosen were the greater likelihood of public confusion and the risk of public backlash. Cool.

It is also revealing just how much effort and cost these organisations invest in consultation with their Maori advisory groups.

Keep up the good work Kiwibloggers.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2026/05/02/fears-of-backlash-and-mockery-played-into-new-auckland-rail-line-names/
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May 3, 2026 8:57am
- Boy Geoff
  
  That recent government workplace survey was quite enlightening too.
  
  Interesting to see what public servants say about compulsory karakia sessions and various other te Ao tidbits, when they can be truly anonymous.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:06am
- KH
  
  Backlash in Central Otago too. Ngai Tahu have s**t in their own nest by demanding $180 million from the Santana mine ( and suggested some ownership)
  Locals are over it in a big way. Especially as Maori were never really ever here much at all.
  And strangely, forking over $180 million means cultural issues disappear.
  I would think cultural issues would remain cultural issues.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:11am
  - Clyde
    
    Not only the rorting going on with Santana, but of course the local Council who have built a new hall to replace the old War Memorial Hall have renamed it with some maori name after huge consultation with maori who were never in permanent settlement in Central Otago. They say that this name was “gifted” which is just BS because the local Council PAY a yearly retainer to some obscure maori business in Dunedin PLUS more ratepayer money for any consultation. Only a handful of residents supported a maori name at all which basically sums up the position of the local Council. Have consultation at big cost, but thumb their woke noses at the result because they know best.
    
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    May 3, 2026 1:07pm
    - kowtow
      
      Not to mention the new Otago Regional Council HQ , like all things local govt in Dunedin with a “gifted” Maori name and Maori motifs all over.
      
      ‘Otago regional councillors will have their first taste of the new $56.4 million headquarters in Dunedin at its monthly meeting on Wednesday (April 29).
      
      Aonui was co-designed in partnership with Kāi Tahu and Port Otago’s project architects GHD, as a redeveloped warehouse building that now houses all 300 staff in a highly collaborative space.’
      
      Michael Laws says the place includes a “zen room” for staff!
      
      https://centralapp.nz/NewsStory/staff-enjoying-new-orc-headquarters/69f015a573f1f8002d0cd278
      
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      May 3, 2026 3:29pm
  - kowtow
    
    One of the senior power co wallahs who was involved in the Ngai Tahu shakedown over river water is now ……drumroll…….on the Ngai Tahu Holdings Board.
    
    Finlayson who was treaty giveaway minister is now one of their leading legal beagles .
    
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    May 3, 2026 1:51pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Finlayson still with his snout in the trough.
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:45pm
- greybeard
  
  When the Kapiti Expressway opened in 2017 the stretch of SH1 it replaced became a local road under the auspices of the Kapiti Coast District Council.
  
  Of course being a council the first thought was to give it a new name, because that is what any council in NZ does first ! This process was actually started in 2015, two years before the new road opened.
  
  But not just a new name, a whole SET of new names, by dividing it up into sections and giving each section a brand new maori name !
  
  From KCDC meeting records:
  “Recommendations are that Council approve the renaming of Old State Highway 1 as below:
  Poplar Avenue to Kapiti Road, renamed to Hokowhitu.
  Paraparaumu North to Waikanae River renamed to Te Rauoterangi.
  Waikanae Town renamed to Kākākura.
  Waikanae to Peka Peka, renamed to Unaiki.
  Hadfield Road connection, renamed to Katu.”
  
  Since then a form of sanity has prevailed and a new set of names has been assigned. In English. With geographical relevance.
  https://www.kapiticoast.govt.nz/council/projects/districtwide-investments/sh1/sh1-renaming/
  
  Of course for most of us here it will simply continue to be known as “The Old Main Road”.
  
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  May 3, 2026 12:09pm
- Nobby2
  
  Rocky, Now all they have to do is give the new train service stations English names as well.
  
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  May 3, 2026 12:13pm
- sungsamning
  
  There has certainly been a backlash against woke in the US. I’m glad to see its reaching these shores. Faster please.
  
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  May 3, 2026 3:26pm
kowtow

Following up on yesterday’s discussion about the theugs who attacked the student party in Dunedin.

This from the ODT about one of the thugs , behind a paywall .

‘Jul 2018: Rakete punches Nigel Landreth at a South Dunedin petrol station. He then pours an energy drink over the victim as he lies on the forecourt convulsing. Mr Landreth dies 14 months later. Jailed for 26 months’

That’s the most serious in a long list of violence convictions .

The latest attack earned him a sentence of nearly 4 years , he’s eligible to see the Parole Board in Oct of this year!

Surely we’re not being protected by the courts .
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May 3, 2026 8:59am
Nikola Donatello

This is a couple of weeks old. It shows the fantasy of the Greens. Or the lies. I don’t know which one.

“We can immediately harness the power of our sun to power our homes, schools, farms and marae.”

She said such an electrification plan would cut household power bills and build energy security.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/592794/green-party-issues-human-catastrophe-warning-in-state-of-the-planet-address

So we can immediately use the sun to cut the cost of energy to all people in New Zealand?

If that were possible, entrepreneurs would have done it, and become very rich.

Also, is this magic only possible in New Zealand? Why have not other clever people globally immediately harnessed the sun to deliver cheaper energy to all people?
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May 3, 2026 9:19am
- David George
  
  Greens issuing another “human catastrophe warning” is not news.
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:23am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Maori matauranga, natch
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:26am
- Flossie
  
  Having had a home (in Queensland) for several years with a reasonably large number of solar panels it is not an experience I am keen to have again. As we were the original installers the rebate per kilowatt available at the time did make it quite a deal. That was due to be lowered, and the availability charges were increasing at a pace. Queensland is of course a pretty sunny place and for our two person household a battery system wasn’t necessary, and was out of budget anyway. When selling the property it didn’t appear to add to the value which presumably was due to the limited lifespan of the panels and they were getting older.
  But our age now means the outlay would be foolish as it takes quite a while to recoup the costs.
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:28am
  - [email protected]
    
    “as it takes quite a while to recoup the costs.”
    
    On average it takes about 6-1/2 years to recover the cost of solar panels, inverter and installation. After that they become an income earner.
    
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    May 3, 2026 12:42pm
  - Handyman
    
    We bought a house which had some solar with battery backup.
    After the first few months we halved our power usage by:
    10% moving from winter to spring = more solar generation.
    20% was time shifting of dishwater etc to off peak rate.
    20% was time shifting by the automatic battery software using grid power to charge in off peak and use during peak periods.
    
    My experience is that the best return on investment is getting a battery and ignoring the solar panels.
    
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    May 3, 2026 1:06pm
- rouppe
  
  Of course we can.
  
  https://www.foxnews.com/us/13-obama-backed-22b-solar-plant-leaves-taxpayers-hook-costly-green-energy-boondoggle-part-1
  
  Oh, wait…
  
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  May 3, 2026 9:44am
- Boy Geoff
  
  I was at a seminar a couple of years ago where James Shaw addressed a number of eager new young post graduate (many economics) government recruits. Electrification was going to just ‘happen.’
  
  There was no need to explain any why’s where’s or how’s (or how $much) at all…
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:13am
- KH
  
  Good question why not. Because solar panels save you big money.
  Why not. It’s Luddites. Can’t adapt.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:14am
- R
  
  Surely, this is what solar panels do, during daylight hours. No see sun….no get energy. Old Chinese proverb!
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:21am
  - greybeard
    
    Wrong.
    “Solar panels do not require direct sunlight to function; they primarily need visible light (daylight), meaning they still generate electricity on cloudy or overcast days. While direct sunlight provides optimal, maximum energy production, panels can still generate about 10–25% of their rated power under indirect or diffused light.”
    ( Google )
    
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    May 3, 2026 4:27pm
    - Nobby2
      
      Greybeard, Surely you are not one of those people who beleive everything that they read on Google.
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:31pm
      - greybeard
        
        Not at all, Nobby2.
        But I do suspect that there is still confusion surrounding the differences between “Photovoltaic Panels” ( which convert sunlight into electricity ) and “Solar Panels”, which use the sun’s heat to do things.
        
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        May 3, 2026 6:22pm
- kowtow
  
  The Greens aren’t the only nutters.
  
  Look at the billions that “mainstream” Australia has pissed away on green hydrogen.
  
  UK Labour is gutting its economy over net zero too.
  
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  May 3, 2026 10:34am
peterwn

So an advocate for a Timaru dog owner is going to complain to the Ombudsman that the Council put down her dangerous dogs after they jumped out of a car and injured a Jack Russell. High Court had affirmed the destruction order and refused leave to appeal, and the Council put down the dogs after receiving that advice. It is worth noting that destruction is inevitable in such cases. Perhaps the Ombudsman may rule that the Council should have waited until the owner had a chance to go to the Appeal Court then the Supreme Court.
However why should ratepayers pay for the continued holding of the dogs. Dog Control Act should be amended so owner pays board and keep in such circumstances (and an extra fee for having toe dogs kept in ‘supermax’ conditions.
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May 3, 2026 9:34am
- David Garrett
  
  “Toe dogs”? What might they be?
  
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  May 3, 2026 11:21am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    This iconic scene comes mind.
    
    https://youtu.be/E8H-BnmeOwQ?si=SJWpScBTxw5D_CGB
    
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    May 3, 2026 11:26am
  - MCōs
    
    *The dogs* I should imagine
    
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    May 3, 2026 11:44am
rouppe

A snapshot of what we have in store if the Left wing coalition gains power here.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/communist-socialist-groups-call-revolution-seizure-property-minneapolis-may-day-rally

You’ll note that among all the different protest groups are pro Palestine and lgbt groups. Same as we have here.

It’s just a matter of time
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May 3, 2026 9:41am
NeverMindTheBollocks

A one lane bridge on a country road near Takapau was washed out during Gabrielle. The Council have declined to rebuild, saying that the estimate to do so. is $16m. A local farmer called bullshit on that, and commissioned an alternative estimate, which came in at $2m.

Now, whether the Council estimate includes things such as internal staff time and traffic management while the farmer’s estimate does not; or whether the Council’s estimate is their way of saying “no”, I don’t know. I also couldn’t say whether or not it’s worth spending ratepayer money on restoring the bridge.

But, the order of magnitude of the discrepancy is such that questions need to be asked about how the Council arrived at its estimate.

Source: Takapau Facebook page
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May 3, 2026 9:45am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  From further research: this was reported recently in Hawkes Bay Today. The farmer’s estimate was $2.5m; the Council’s was $9m for a one lane bridge and $16m for a two lane bridge.
  
  There are other one lane bridges locally, on much busier roads. One lane is definitely all that’s needed.
  
  However, I think the general point stands.
  
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  May 3, 2026 12:46pm
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    In Canterbury we have a 1-lane bridge on State Highway 1.
    
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    May 3, 2026 3:20pm
- AitchW
  
  I reckon that contracting companies, when quoting for a council job, triple the price because the people administering the job have little or no idea of what it should cost.
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:29pm
  - MCōs
    
    We’re either prices based on quotes from contractors or not?
    Anything that requires substantial foundation work has a reputation for big cost overruns
    There’s no point in replacing the bridge with a similar structure if it’s just going to get destroyed by the next Gabrielle
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:35pm
Yvette

Treaty
New documents reveal the government is considering rewriting Treaty clauses across multiple laws, lowering the legal standard to simply “take into account” Te Tiriti, a move officials warn could weaken its practical force.
Ministry of Justice advice, filed with the Waitangi Tribunal, says the changes could have a “significantly harmful” impact on Māori-Crown relations.
https://centrist.nz/treaty-clause-rewrite-plan-could-cap-legal-weight-of-te-tiriti/?

The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) is non-binding in New Zealand law, meaning it does not create legal obligations or grant a Māori veto over legislation. While endorsed by NZ in 2010, the current coalition government does not recognise it as having binding legal effect, though it influences policy and judicial interpretation.

• The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) is non-binding in New Zealand law, meaning it does not create legal obligations or grant a Māori veto over legislation. While endorsed by NZ in 2010, the current coalition government does not recognise it as having binding legal effect, though it influences policy and judicial interpretation. – Google AI overview

Will the Treaty, after Coalition legislative changes, then have the same status as UNDRIP?
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May 3, 2026 9:51am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Fish and Game are not concerned about vigilantes flying drones at duck hunters.

Well, no.

I hope drone flyers are not particularly attached to their gear.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/community/594083/fish-and-game-not-concerned-about-vigilantes-flying-drones-at-duck-hunters
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May 3, 2026 10:10am
NeverMindTheBollocks

Regarding family unification visas, as I understand it, the primary NZ resident needs to undertake to support the family members receiving the unification visa.

Has any research been done into what actually happens?

Ahmed Zouai reputably brought 18 family members to NZ. Leaving aside his return to Algeria, how was he ever able to meet the support terms of the family unification visa?
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May 3, 2026 10:16am
- imalwaysright
  
  Apparently the past their prime Lefty luvvies were besotted with his Eastern swarthiness and adopted him as their in-house pet. Yes, they are that shallow.
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:08pm
- david
  
  Does anyone know if the 18 add-ons went back to Algeria with him? After all, they came to be unified with Zouai not as immigrants in their own rights.
  
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  May 3, 2026 3:08pm
MCōs

I watched a programme the other day on the fall of the Berlin Wall and subsequent sweeping away of the totalitarian governments not only of East German, but the other countries of the USSR.
Two things brought this about. People power and the abandonment by Gorbachev of the communist administrations
Notably absent, on reflection, was military intervention by an outside country . . . and oil
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May 3, 2026 11:39am
- Don Beckett
  
  One has to say that President Reagan & Pope John Paul II had quite a hand in kicking off the collapse in Poland, which then reverberated across Eastern Europe.
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:40pm
  - Taieri
    
    The collapse of Poland happened primarily due to the economic reasons. Principally, over investment on credit, with rapid industrialisation and modernisation while maintaining low, subsidised prices, which ultimately resulted in shortages and social unrest, followed by martial law and hyperinflation. The regime change in 1989 was achieved peacefully, but inflation and very high unemployment were not brought under control until the first decade of 2000’s.
    The role of the Pope and president Reagan was not as crucial as that of Gorbachev, who allowed satellite countries to follow their own political and economic ways.
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:01pm
    - kowtow
      
      Solidarity Union was the driving force .Underpinned massively by their Catholicism and supercharged by the historic , unprecedented nationalist Polish Pope.
      
      (all at a time of undoubted rot in the evil Soviet Union as well as Gorby not being cut from the same cloth as his forebears)
      
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      May 3, 2026 3:22pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        Yes, Lech Walensa was the union boss & a friend of JPII. I think he became President of Poland for a while.
        
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        May 3, 2026 4:52pm
Swifty

My thanks to everyone who attended the Kiwiblog Supprters Club – Avondale Branch monthly meeting last night.

https://x.com/thegreenolddill/status/2050374373765247138?s=46

A great time had by all.
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May 3, 2026 11:48am
- Don Beckett
  
  Are they J. D. Vance’s relatives ? 😆
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:41pm
  - kowtow
    
    Naughty .
    
    Looks more like a Green Party fund raiser.
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:12pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      I know, I know – naughty me – just recalling Vance’s book about his early Hillbilly years. 🙂
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:54pm
      - kowtow
        
        Haven’t read it but enjoyed the movie .
        
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        May 3, 2026 5:05pm
artemisia

The Global Sumud Flotilla is demanding the New Zealand government intervene to uphold international law, after being intercepted by Israel.

There may be more than one view of whether either actions are lawful, but the agitariat ignoring the NZ government ‘do not travel’ advisory then demanding action from that same government seems rather optimistic. Maybe their travel insurance will kick in.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/594092/global-sumud-flotilla-calls-on-nz-government-to-intervene-after-israeli-interception
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May 3, 2026 12:34pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Yeah nah, attention seeking activists. Leave them there.
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:14pm
  - kowtow
    
    The same ones, largely, as the last time round .So yes we shouldn’t be wasting any tax payer money or our diplomats time on them.
    
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    May 3, 2026 2:10pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes, let Israel lock them up like they did before – but don’t let them out this time.
      
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      May 3, 2026 4:55pm
  - AitchW
    
    The Israelis should drop them off at Gaza.
    
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    May 3, 2026 9:06pm
- rouppe
  
  That’s akin to:
  
  Parent: “Johnny, don’t go down the road and throw stones at Mr Smith’s house”
  Johnny: goes down the road and throws stones at Mr Smith’s house.
  Mr Smith: grabs him and calls the police
  Johnny: “Mummy! MUMMY! HEEEEELP!”
  
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  May 3, 2026 1:36pm
- Inandout
  
  Those demo ships were a bed jumping exercise I understand.
  
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  May 3, 2026 3:30pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    No wonder the seas have been so rough in the Eastern Med. 😉
    
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    May 3, 2026 4:56pm
- greybeard
  
  I sincerely hope that the NZ Govt has absolutely nothing to do with these self-obsessed morons.
  
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  May 3, 2026 5:34pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360973537/cracks-found-inside-giant-fishhooks-famous-whangarei-bridge

More money spent on proper engineering expertise and real-world science would have been better than money spent on maori design requirements.
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