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Swifty

The tribal takeover of our democracy continues:

https://www.nzcpr.com/an-egregious-betrayal/#more-41811
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May 14, 2026 8:35am
- kowtow
  
  Otago Regional Council
  
  ‘Two Ngai Tahu representatives joined the council’s policy committee, in paid positions with voting rights, in June last year.’
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/dcc/majority-votes-retain-iwi-representatives
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:01am
- kowtow
  
  And on the Dunedin City Council.
  
  Unelected appointed Ngai Tahu reps with voting rights!
  
  ‘A council report recommended two rūnaka representatives (one from each rūnaka – Kāti Huirapa ki Puketeraki Rūnaka and Ōtākou Rūnaka) be appointed to the planning and environment and the infrastructure services committees and have voting rights.’
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-government/300345497/dunedin-council-votes-for-mori-representation-on-two-committees
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:07am
  - imalwaysright
    
    And lets not forget that the Council appoints the RMA panel to whom the local Iwi send their cultural offence based objections that can be withdrawn subject to multi million dollar payments to the Iwi.
    
    Very cosy…
    
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    May 14, 2026 9:32am
    - Philview
      
      I read the Dunedin City Council has made just about the entire city and coastline a Wahi Tupuna zone. Property rights were once considered a cornerstone of a liberal democracy.
      
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      May 14, 2026 1:51pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        I don’t think the public realise what is going on.
        We are already seeing Iwi being allowed to register private property as ‘of cultural interest’.
        
        What happens when the owner wants to sell, or get a mortgage?
        
        The value if the property will drop and the only interested buyers will be Iwi.
        
        This is property value theft.
        
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        May 14, 2026 2:40pm
      - Ghost
        
        nothing happens when someone wants to sell their private property. Iwi have no right to private property under the Sites and Areas of Significance. No the value of the property wont drop, nor will it turn buyers off.
        
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        May 14, 2026 2:55pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        That’s delusional
        
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        May 14, 2026 3:09pm
      - Ghost
        
        perhaps you are delusional.
        
        Every property in my town is under a Sites and Areas of Significance. Māori have no right to buy them. The properties still increase in value, they still sell.
        
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        May 14, 2026 4:06pm
      - Ghost
        
        I’ll also add, a 42 hectare farm down the road recently sold, it was on the market for less than a month. It is also part of the Sites and Areas of Significance. Didn’t stop it fetching a rather good price, didn’t stop it selling almost as soon as it went on the market
        
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        May 14, 2026 4:30pm
  - Cantabrian
    
    This is all nonsense when one considers the population of Maori in 1861 (which seems to be the first reasonable accurate census – see 1861 Year Book). The distribution of Otago Maori (excluding Stewart Island) was:
    New River & Oue – 32
    Jacobs River – 76
    Orauka – 69
    Moeraki – 116
    Waikouaiti – 108
    Otago – 87
    Taiera – 31
    Other – 6
    Total = 525
    
    At the same time the Year Book states the Maori population of the entire South Island was only 2,280. In 1961 it had grown to only 7,140, and then 13,942 in 1971.
    
    How do we allow this situation, where the descendants of around 2,200 people basically exercise control (I could use a word stating with ‘S’ but I wont) of half of the country’s land mass? How could that few have the sort of expertise many claim?
    
    Perhaps we descendants of those early settlers should start seeking reparations for the cost and effort they applied to making the country sufficiently successful to afford the large sums being dispensed to those professing to understand and honour the land more than htey do.
    
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    May 14, 2026 9:47am
    - kowtow
      
      Interesting the locations with the larger numbers were whaling stations .
      
      There must have been some benefits to be in close prox to those colonial settlers.
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:45am
      - David Garrett
        
        kowtow: I’m sure I have read that many Maori signed on as crew on whaling vessels. The American whalers – all the way from Maine and Connecticut – certainly “associated” with – and even sometimes married – the local wahines. Thus in time producing the first of the part Maori who now make up the entire Maori population.
        
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        May 14, 2026 1:54pm
      - The Housekeeper
        
        The whaling museum at Cold Spring Harbour in New York has a little corner dedicated to a local whaler who married a Maori woman. I don’t recall the details but she always sailed with him.
        
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        May 14, 2026 2:12pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Maiki Sherman descends from one of the Massachusett whalers (Prince Edward Sherman) who settled in Northland.
        
        https://e-tangata.co.nz/korero/maiki-sherman-holding-the-powerful-to-account/
        
        P.E. Sherman became a naturalised British subject in 1860
        https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/DSC18600622.2.20
        
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        May 14, 2026 2:29pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        There’s a Maori in Moby Dick.
        First chapter I think.
        
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        May 14, 2026 2:44pm
      - kowtow
        
        iar
        
        Haven’t read the book but seen the film.
        
        In the 1851 book he’s not specified as Maori , but Polynesian. It seems though the author Melville was influenced in his portrayal of Quequeg , by another book ‘The New Zealanders’ 1830 and descriptions of a Maori chief therein.
        
        Moby Dick author American Herman Melville was himself a South Seas whaler .
        
        As DG says above there was plenty of “cultural” interchange/influences twixt America and NZ. And this is one.
        
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        May 14, 2026 3:58pm
- Paulus
  
  Have started reading but will take time to fully appreciate so will continue, but in principle, I agree with everything I have so far read.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:16am
- Notsofast
  
  Gad Saad calls this suicidal empathy.
  Generally he refers to Islam lovers, and this is identical.
  One last roll of the dice is pending with this election, and even Shane Jones dismissed the Far North scandal because Act publicized it.
  The worst part is that rank and file part maori will never benefit, because the whole system is trolls under the bridge.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:21am
  - pdm
    
    Notsofast.
    
    If you are relying on Peters and Jones to lead New Zealand to salvation on this please, please do not hold your breath.
    
    Most of us know it is not going to happen because they talk a good game before elections but never achieve anything that relates to that talk once in Government.
    
    To summarise and I have said this here before that it is an old saying from my late father in law.
    `they are like the barbers cat – all piss and wind’.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:39am
    - Notsofast
      
      English as official language
      Men out of women’s sport
      English names first in govt departments
      
      Which of those would National have done?
      
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      May 14, 2026 2:35pm
      - R
        
        All of them, had they been ele Ted [elected} with a Universal mandate, but they weren’t. The MSM made sure of that; so National are stuck in a coalition with two egos as partners
        
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        May 14, 2026 5:09pm
- sungsamning
  
  In other words; A Labour led government means NZ having an 18 pounder ball and chain attached to its ankle. And a National led government having a 12 pounder ball and chain. If anyone thinks Australia has greener grass; I have a bridge and real estate for sale. Labour wants to flood the place with 500,000 ‘new Australians’.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:26am
  - David Garrett
    
    sungsam: As I see it, the Aussies are charging down the very same disastrous road we have been on for at least the last 30 years – or actually 40 years, since the Goose Sir Geoffrey Palmer inserted s.9 into the SOE’s Act 1987 which set the whole “treaty” gravy train in motion.
    
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    May 14, 2026 9:57am
    - R
      
      David, the foundations of the gravy train was established back in the Kirk govt days. Just took a while to show up in public
      
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      May 14, 2026 10:20am
      - Cassandra
        
        You’re forgetting Douglas Montrose Graham.
        
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        May 14, 2026 12:34pm
    - sungsamning
      
      Yes, that’s right. An extra 500,000 ‘new Australians’ would mean Labor being the permanent government. A move to a red state in the US would be a much better idea for anyone considering leaving here.
      
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      May 14, 2026 2:01pm
lastmanstanding

Watch the Labour Party borrow the Aussie Labor Government slogan ” Intergenerational Equity”. The translation is to steal from the Baby Boomers to waste on all sorts of mad cap schemes. In the case of Oz they have a One Trillion Dollar debt and rising fast. Labor are adding Tens of Billion of Dollars of debt to it each year with their just released Budget. There is no plan to get to a surplus until 2036 under their own estimates. Robbing the Baby Boomers is a cynical move to disguise their lack of fiscal discipline. You can bet NZ Labour will do the same. Arseholes that they are.
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May 14, 2026 8:58am
- R
  
  NZ Labour sorely need some policies for the Nov election; any policy will do, even if it is stolen. Chipping wants a new slogan.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:06am
  - Philview
    
    NZ Labour were able to campaign in 2020 on limited policies and produced a radical unmandated policy programme afterwards. The media will not pull them up and the electorate have forgotten so why bother with policies.
    
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    May 14, 2026 12:57pm
- Im Right
  
  Aussie debt is eye watering for sure LMS, BUT….they can mine and extract their way out of debt (ok, maybe not this much debt I agree), but they have options and mining is a huge money earner.
  Unfortunately in NZ, we have the left parties all opposed to mining and oil/gas exploration, NZ has no back up to earn extra money the same as Aussie can.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:17am
  - sungsamning
    
    Well, yes they can, theoretically. Greens will say no. And the uni-party will give the stuff away to big business.
    
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    May 14, 2026 9:28am
  - Paulus
    
    Mining is OK as long as countries like China and India keep on buying it but both apparently are slowing down in this direction hence the SNAFU there.
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:55am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    Not sure about that. Mining is 14 percent of Australian GDP. Yes critically important for foreign exchange, but the domestic economy is primarily services. The trillion dollar debt has been accumulated in parallel with a booming mining sector. So I don’t see how Australia will solve its debt problem predominantly via some new resources boom.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:02am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    China and India will go to Africa to get minerals when its cheaper and Aussie will be stuffed. It suits China and India at present.
    
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    May 14, 2026 1:37pm
- Swifty
  
  It’s gone beyond gross irresponsibility, it’s now open corruption – robbing future generations to provide the funds for political bribery today.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:18am
  - NothingLeft
    
    Voters won’t vote for fiscally responsible parties – they’ve long since abandoned grown up behavior. So blame the stupid sheep if you want to blame anyone.
    
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    May 14, 2026 3:18pm
- Bevan
  
  Aus Labor have failed with these policies because they are ignorant to information that doesn’t suit their intentions.
  
  1. The wealth tied up by Baby Boomers is not lost to younger generations forever, it will eventually be passed down to them through inheritance. These new tax structures will result in less being passed down.
  2. Smart younger people have structured their investments away from property initially into the stock market, specifically ETF’s. Now, anyone who does this will be taxed significantly more, therefore will take longer to owning a home.
  3. There is palpable anger that Albanese has used these same tax incentives to procure multiple multi-million dollar properties, then pulled the ladder up so no one else can.
  4. The only way to reduce the cost of housing is TO BUILD MORE HOUSES, the own budget states 35,000 less house will be built as a result and rents will go up.
  
  Anyone who votes for Labor as a result of these changes is voting to keep themselves poor.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:04am
RRM

Why in the world does Tiaki Wai (the new Wellington Water) have giant adverts on the backs of buses?

Just their name, on a blurry background. No other information.

It’s not like they need to attract customers, who might otherwise choose one of their competitors.

Just pointless waste.
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May 14, 2026 9:09am
- RoboRob
  
  YES! This drives me crazy. The same as ACC advertises itself. The ACC campaigns around ladder safety etc are good but the adds telling people that ACC are good seem a total waste of money.
  
  I remember when Labour decided to save the media during covid and suddenly every government department was running massive advertising campaigns. The government became the largest advertiser in the country. These government agencies should not be wasting money on crap like this.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:31am
  - imalwaysright
    
    I saw on tv an advertisement telling all chicken farmers to watch out for bird flu.
    
    Surely chicken farmers are registered. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to send a group email?
    
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    May 14, 2026 9:36am
    - Ghost
      
      haven’t seen it, but I would expect it was also aimed at people who have their own chickens, bird aviary’s etc, if it is anything like the video mpi put out
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXc83YFCEo
      
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      May 14, 2026 10:33am
    - Charlotte Wells
      
      To be a registered chicken farmer you need to have 99 or more of all ages and both sexes.
      
      Anything less than that and you don’t have to be registered.
      
      When they have outbreaks in the UK everyone, even down to just having 1, must isolate and keep the entire flock indoors.
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:46am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Thanks
        
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        May 14, 2026 6:40pm
  - Paulus
    
    Is ACC still losing Billions ?
    
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    May 14, 2026 1:36pm
- kowtow
  
  It’s called “normalisation”
  
  They want the punters to get used to seeing these words etc
  
  Often simply starts with a ‘kia ora” .
  
  Establishment/Deep State newspeak signalling.
  
  Like in the old Soviet Union , where everyone was “Comrade” to their face but gulag fodder in reality.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:33am
  - Prince
    
    It’s like TVNZ Newsreaders using the same incomprehensible intro/outros during their bulletin. The vast majority of their audience have no idea what it means, despite years and years of repetition.
    What’s the point ?
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:00am
    - OlderChas
      
      Sav doing the Sports on TV1 is a classic example Prince!
      
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      May 14, 2026 12:24pm
- R
  
  Subliminal indoctrination!
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:23am
- Ghost
  
  don’t see the point in the ad, but it has a little more than the name, its just advising people they are the new water service from july 1st
  
  https://www.facebook.com/wellingtonwater/posts/moving-forwards-youll-start-seeing-and-hearing-the-name-tiaki-wai-a-lot-moreon-1/1455652473268500/
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:30am
  - pdm
    
    Pointles really though Ghostie because as I understand it it is the same water and therefore the same sevices with a different name.
    
    Which probably 99.99% of ratepayers know anyway.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:45am
  - RRM
    
    No, I may wear glasses but I am not blind.
    
    This was TIAKI WAI on a blurry background. And absolutely nothing else.
    
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    May 14, 2026 12:15pm
  - Hard Cheese
    
    But they could have just left it as “Wellington Water”, it’s obvious to everyone from the name what service they provide. Someone had the bright idea change it (at great expense) to a Maori name that means nothing to most people and they have to start advertising (at further expense) what service it provides. Am I missing something here?
    
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    May 14, 2026 12:38pm
- Paulus
  
  Easy, it is a waste of Wellington Ratepayer’s money – so what !
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:57am
sungsamning

The Congressional Black Caucus, a power center in the Democratic Party for decades, saw its membership rise this Congress to an all-time high of 58 House members. They’re all Democrats, and vote as a block. Now that the plantation is closed; black Congressmen will have to court every vote to succeed. Must be ‘raycist’, or something. Who will pick the cotton?]
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/congressional-black-caucus-supreme-court-redistricting-decision-rcna344565
Democrats warn a third of the Congressional Black Caucus could be wiped out by redistricting wars.
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May 14, 2026 9:23am
- RoboRob
  
  Listened to discussion around districting / gerry mandering. One comment was very interesting. They claimed the Dems had perfected districting to the point they could ensure a white Dem was selected. The system was to get just enough black and latino voters in an area so that when primaries would run the blacks wouldn’t vote for a latino, the latinos wouldn’t vote for a black and the white candidate would get through. When the main election took place the black, latino and white dems would all vote for the (white) Dem candidate and they would have more voters in the electorate then the Reps.
  
  Obviously that is not true in all states / areas as there are plenty of non white Dems. These days it appears the candidate with the most ‘features’ gets through. So if you are a transgender, black, woman without an arm you are almost gauranteed to get in.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:35am
sungsamning

Barbara Boyd criticizes Sen. Elissa Slotkin’s claim that Trump will need China’s help over Iran and argues the U.S. has leverage because China is hurt by the Strait of Hormuz closure while the U.S. has surplus oil and gas. She says Slotkin joined a Toronto meeting with Mark Carney, Barack Obama, Center for American Progress figures, and Alex Soros aimed at regaining the working class and preserving the “rules-based order,” while the UK revolts against Keir Starmer and Europe bets on defense spending tied to Ukraine. [The City are getting desperate. Job creation, and exports are at a high level in the USA. Not so much in Canada, and the EC.]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIaehklCsU8
Carney Fires A Blank.
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May 14, 2026 9:23am
- Wairoa Native
  
  “when all else fails, they take you to war”.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:41am
  - sungsamning
    
    And if they can’t rustle up a war; a plandemic’ is the next best thing.
    
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    May 14, 2026 2:06pm
- Charlotte Wells
  
  Slotkin is a nasty piece of work and not to be trusted or believed.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:47am
peterwn

$37m drained from benefits to debt collectors in grim vortex
https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/05/13/37m-drained-from-benefits-to-debt-collectors-in-grim-vortex/
This is news to me. I thought that welfare payments were immune from ‘attachments’ for debts. I see that 40% can be attached. The Court or Disputes Tribunal needs to uphold the debt first and the creditor’s application for attachment seems to be processed by the Ministry of Justice bureaucracy.
What is particular concern is the beneficiaries being deprived of benefit payment such as they have to apply for a supplementary benefit payment which effectively means that the taxpayer is helping to pay off private debts.
The best ‘fix’ I can think of is any supplementary benefit payments are paid out of the 40% deduction with the remainder going to the creditor.
This would stop the taxpayer having to effectively pay off private debts.
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May 14, 2026 9:36am
Positan

Duncan Garner recounts years of covering abuses of all sorts of procedures at parliament – but defended Maiki Sherman’s treatment by TVNZ as “unfair.”
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSObXvrwhg)

Amazing!

Not once did he even make any sort of reference to the constantly leftist-bent attitude of Sherman’s coverage – or the fact that so many viewers had been completely fed up with her style of reporting. What seemed to “bother” Garner was that TVNZ didn’t give her a fair shake, when others had “offended” far more egregiously.

Also he omitted to make mention of how Sherman manoeuvred to oust Mutch-McKay.

All up, he raised many interesting recollections, but it was poor quality coverage of the really germaine issues we might have expected from the podcast.
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May 14, 2026 9:40am
- Paulus
  
  Did he raise the point that Maiki was 100% Maori having been educated via total immersion all her Kuraring.
  And underneath all that was all her acihievement to denigrate the Coaltion therby favouring Maori.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:02am
- RoboRob
  
  He also really missed that ‘things have changed’. Sure historicly they did these things and got away with them, but things have changed. When Lange was PM and having an affair the media chose not to cover it, politicians private lives were kept private. That is absolutely no longer the case (unless you are Hipkins). Andrea Vances honey trap on Peter Dunne being just one example.
  
  Times have changed and reporters can no longer assume that their indiscretions will be accepted and hidden.
  
  Also I note that Duncan has a real bee in his bonnet with regards to Barry Soper.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:24am
  - pdm
    
    RR – and Luxon.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:48am
peterwn

So Trump wants Obama arrested for treason (typical pot kettle black situation). This is a case where treason occurred in the eye of the beholder. Another case of this was Lady Jane Grey who as a teenager was executed for treason at the Tower in 1554. She was Queen of England for 9 days before being deposed when a different faction of power prevailed. Her only ‘crime’ was being on the wrong side of the fence.
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May 14, 2026 9:43am
- Interested Party
  
  What would you call Obama pushing the FBI etc to push the Russia Russia hoax (it has been proven) on his way out to nobble Trumps first term
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:52am
  - peterwn
    
    One could have accused Rob Muldoon with this when his party ran the ‘Dancing Cossacks’ election commercial years ago. The commercial somehow survived.
    https://youtu.be/jNLTJRSmpT8?si=QpH5WjQFpx1at_95
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:13am
    - Charlotte Wells
      
      Totally wrong comparison.
      
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      May 14, 2026 12:02pm
    - Interested Party
      
      Making a campaign ad is way different to setting your FBI lapdogs against your opposition- but you know that don’t you
      
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      May 14, 2026 4:25pm
  - herb1
    
    In hindsight a remarkably prescient,if not illegal, attempt to save America and the world for what it’s enduring under Trump
    
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    May 14, 2026 12:25pm
    - Charlotte Wells
      
      It wasn’t prescient and it was treasonous.
      
      Obama and his ilk are just pissed they have been caught and called out for their attempt to impose the world order they thought we should endure.
      
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      May 14, 2026 5:03pm
  - virtualmark
    
    Okay, I’ll play. What is the Russia hoax? Outline it for me. Which part is a hoax, which part is untrue, what were the real facts.
    
    Oh, but you might want to read this report … https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/2020/08/18/publications-report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures/
    
    It’s the US Senate Committee on Intelligence’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 US elections, and clearly outlines their support for Donald Trump.
    
    But hey, every piece of Russian deza needs useful idiots … and here you are.
    
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    May 14, 2026 8:46pm
- kowtow
  
  Allegedly Dumas ;
  
  Treason is a matter of dates.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:52am
- Charlotte Wells
  
  You’ve got some evidence to share about Trump being treasonous?
  
  Don’t quote the BBC doctored Jan 6 speech as evidence if that is what you were going to try.
  
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  May 14, 2026 12:01pm
Ghost

live stream of hipkin’s and other labour mp’s. god they look miserable and depressed

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360847406/stuff-live-stream-official

can’t even tell why they called a live stand up so early.
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May 14, 2026 9:50am
- Ghost
  
  youtube link, starts at 7.40 with the auckland mayor having a whinge. hipkins starts at 19.20
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L26WNXn2Y7I
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:54am
  - RoboRob
    
    Love how Hipkins picked every ehtnicity he possibly could to stand around him. The Left do DEI so well.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:27am
    - pdm
      
      I noticed Halbert there too.
      
      He was late addition in off the list once votes were counted so he must have `pole vaulted’ up the rankings despite his manner making him totally unlikeable.
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:51am
Positan

Shane Jones was booted from parliament yesterday for making “insulting comments” to Debbie Ngarewa Packer.

Honestly, given the appalling racist demeanour and constantly abrasive conduct of that MP, I can’t see how it would even be remotely possible to insult her.

All you can say about Brownlee’s Speakership is that it is a complete waste of time.
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May 14, 2026 9:53am
- Ghost
  
  the debating chamber should not result in mp’s resorting to childish behaviour. Never an excuse for when it happens. He was rightfully booted out.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:58am
  - keepcalmcarryon
    
    My once a month agreeing with ghost moment.
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:25am
  - Wairoa Native
    
    True, but it is all theatre anyway. Te Pāti Māori play to their audience and Matua Shane to his. At least he wants to get the nephs of the couch and working in a mine in New Zealand. Or maybe a fishing trawler off the coast.
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:47am
    - pdm
      
      `At least he wants to get the nephs of the couch………………….’
      
      Does he really or is it all talk and bluster?
      
      Given the length of time he has been in Parliament, including Government some of those nephs are probably pensioners by now.
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:53am
      - imalwaysright
        
        Couch manufacturers are doing well…
        
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        May 14, 2026 12:14pm
      - Wairoa Native
        
        Shane Jones has backed mining, aquaculture, energy projects, infrastructure and faster consenting, especially in places that feel forgotten by Wellington. That his critics think he goes too far toward industry and not far enough on the environment is probably a sign he’s making progress.
        
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        May 14, 2026 3:03pm
    - kowtow
      
      Er , he says that , but seriously, the man’s just another political grifter with a big mouth .
      
      Personally I reckon the folk who fall for his and Winston’s rhetoric are delusional.
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:55am
- Bobba Fret
  
  Brownlee has been very disappointing as speaker. I’m surprised even National have confidence in him.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:08am
Wairoa Native

Rates increases and water charges on top of that.

This is starting to look pretty unsustainable. When households are facing $6k–$7k a year in combined rates and water, it’s basically a second rent/mortgage on top of everything else. Even if the infrastructure spend is needed, constant big increases are going to build real political blowback.

“Porirua Mayor Anita Baker said bills reaching nearly $7000 a year in a decade were horrendous, and could drive people away from the region.”

“At those sort of prices, who’s going to be living here? I can’t pay $6000 in water, and $6000 in rates… we have to do something.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/590622/wellington-water-woes-a-price-which-is-not-in-the-plan
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May 14, 2026 9:58am
- MCōs
  
  Realistically the political blowback should be aimed at long gone councils who kicked the can down the road.
  But that’s not what will happen, of course.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:26am
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    No can has been kicked down the road, please save the labour talking points for reddit.
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:59am
  - Wairoa Native
    
    It’s pretty obvious who Andrew Little is blaming and maybe he has a point. “Little said Tiaki Wai was responsible for what it sent to DIA last year, and he did not control or veto the organisation’s decisions under the new system.
    
    He said he shared the minister’s concerns about bills, but the government campaigned on this model under its Local Water Done Well policy.”
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:02am
- greybeard
  
  There is a lot of new housing development around the Waitangirua / Transmission Gully intersection. Awful place, no idea why anyone would live there.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:39am
  - MCōs
    
    Everyone’s got to live somewhere
    My wife doesn’t know why anyone would buy a house in Tapuwae Way over the fence from the Mangere Cemetery. Ghosts everywhere just metres away
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:47am
    - Jack5
      
      Do Thai folk have unlucky numbers, like some Chinese?
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:44am
  - Prince
    
    Nonsense. Young families move in, communities develop, kids grow, parks and schools spring up.
    Look at Paparangi, Whitby, Newlands, Grenada. OK it’s not blue rinse, but they have beating hearts.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:04am
    - pdm
      
      Brother in law and sister in law moved from Tawa to Whitby when he was able to retire at age 55 and she never worked from when they married in 1968.
      
      My perception of Whitby from visits was that most of it was populated by white collar, well to do people.
      
      Am I wrong?
      
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      May 14, 2026 11:59am
- Eastlander
  
  She bleats but makes no effort to fire staff, cut staff pay and cancel vanity projects.
  
  This is the usual plea for a bailout.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:14am
peterwn

“Tax I paid in 1962 was meant to give me a pension. Where did that go? Ask Susan”
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/personal-finance/594783/tax-i-paid-in-1962-was-meant-to-give-me-a-pension-where-did-that-go-ask-susan
Tax in 1962 was never intended to pay NZ Super as we now know it. NZ Super was not even thought of until Rob Muldoon promised it in 1975.
As far as I know the only pension available in 1962 would have been a relatively small amount on a par with unemployment benefit and means tested. It was presumably paid at 65. If that system prevailed presumably the eligibility age would have been increased to 67-70 with those below that age being able to apply for unemployment or sickness benefit if no longer able to work. These were regarded as ‘safety net’ payments and not ‘entitlements’ as they are now commonly called.
Also in earlier years man seeking a pension needed to show they were of ‘good character’ presumably not being alcoholic and no or minor criminal record.
So no, tax paid in 1962 was never intended to fund NZ Super.
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May 14, 2026 10:04am
- spryte
  
  The Age Benefit in the 1960s was 60%-ish of the average wage for a couple. It started at 60 and was universal, but was means tested. A Social Security tax of 7.5% was meant to cover pensions and other welfare payments.
  
  (https://www.goodreturns.co.nz/article/976486047/super-history-nz-s-super-system-unique.html)
  
  The current rate for a couple is 63% of the average wage. Universal and not means tested.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:38am
  - peterwn
    
    The one and sixpence (1/6d) in the pound (7.5%) special tax was for benefits and pensions. However in later years the revenue gained was probably far less than payments.
    
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    May 14, 2026 2:30pm
- MCōs
  
  The pension in NZ is paid out of current revenue, which is a huge problem.
  The problem was even worse when the Nats brought in the current version because it was super generous and paye had to be hiked above 60% before it was trimmed back.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:40am
  - peterwn
    
    A previous government (Labour I think) set up the ‘NZ Super Fund’ and the Government contributes an annual amount to that fund which is to fund future NZ Super payments. So NZ Super is partially funded although the balance is ‘pay as you go’.
    
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    May 14, 2026 10:50am
    - Ian Boag
      
      Essentially it is of course all borrowed money. The managers have done quite well growing it, but it is only designed to buffer the system for a few years when the costs outrun what can reasonably extracted from taxpayers at the time. I guess after that everyone will be expected to be Kiwisaver-fixed.
      
      Sufficiently far into the future that noone can guess what will happen. TBH I’m surprised that the Nats didn’t rat it in the GFC and Labour didn’t rat it in the pandemic. Not sure if Nats are still contributing in this period of tax cuts and deficits …. would be daft if they are IMO.
      
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      May 14, 2026 1:26pm
Bullion

This latest golden mile review pisses me off so much. The stick in the muds, nothing should get better crowd have functionally won.

So much consultation and design work went into these projects that people were complaining about the cost before work on the ground was being doing, the previous mayor manages to maintain the central Govt contribution to the project even though the current Govt is ideologically opposed to walking and cycling (and Wellington), but then comes the court cases, the obstructionist councillors (who were reflexively opposed without engaging their brains), all knowing that delays will just drive up the cost and make the project less, and less likely.

What is also crazy, at some point soon all those pipes under the golden mile will need to be replaced/upgraded and that’s going to cause a lot of disruption and cost – WHICH THE GOLDEN MILE UPGRADE WAS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH INITIALLY HALF COVERED BY THE GOVT!!!

We’re such a backward bunch of do nothings.
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- greybeard
  
  If I remember correctly very few Wellingtonians wanted any such development of the “Golden Mile”: just rabid cyclists and council left-wing ideologues who live for public transport. But the majority was overruled. Or ignored.
  
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  May 14, 2026 10:42am
  - Bullion
    
    You may remember that, but that was from a flawed survey where the Research Association of New Zealand upheld a complaint against the polling company saying:
    
    a) The Poll includes questions that are not prepared in accordance with accepted research principles, methods and techniques.
    b) The Poll was publicly criticised for poor research practice. Our concern is that this discredits our profession. The Poll was published online and claimed to be ‘conducted in accordance with the Research Association New Zealand Code of Practice’.
    c) The Poll did not use wording that ensured fair and unbiased results.
    
    https://www.researchassociation.org.nz/Upheld-complaints
    
    Though, the city elected a mayor, a majority of councillors, and two green mps that had supported the golden mile upgrade.
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:04am
- Eastlander
  
  I’m glad that you’re unhappy, but none of those costs would have been incurred if the project had never been embarked upon. You and others who pushed for it should voluntarily give up any personal assets and future income to help atone for the damage your juvenile fanaticism has done to the city.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:03am
  - Bullion
    
    So, when we dig up the golden mile at great cost and disruption to replace pipes – we have to return it to how it is – not functioning as well as it could?
    
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    May 14, 2026 11:21am
Swifty

A very interesting point made about apes, they have never asked a question:

https://x.com/anishmoonka/status/2054558279775240554?s=46
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May 14, 2026 10:15am
cas

I’ve just been reading an article in the Guardian Weekly of 24 April headed ‘ Out of Office: A rebirth r rebrand for Justin Trudeau’ . It refers to the challenge facing him after he stood down: how to shape a political legacy and decide the extent to which he wants to remain a public spectacle. One columnist asks ‘ is he a celebrity , or is he a man of depth?” ( obviously thinks he can’t be both).

Remind you of anyone? I bet they have been exchanging messages on how to keep in front of the public and be a celebrity.
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May 14, 2026 10:33am
Swifty

NZ adult literacy rates have fallen, now below the OECD average:

https://x.com/mhreddell/status/2054654177109037378?s=46

I wonder if that’s, at least partially, immigration-related.
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May 14, 2026 10:43am
- Paulus
  
  I would think the poorness of reading is due to our abominable education system, which has been here for many years, not immigration, as many such as Indians speak and understand English well.
  If you mean Maori books, well that is another matter.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:08am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    Agreed. I regularly struggle to understand what my students write, and the contents of emails from native English speakers (Kiwis) because their English is all over the place. There are university students who don’t seem to understand how to write a clear sentence, let alone organize a paragraph.
    
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    May 14, 2026 1:13pm
    - Phronesis
      
      PPII – You should do a guest post here and tell us what it’s like in the trenches of the academy in NZ. I’ve been out for a while so my stories are a bit old. Something like what https://www.facultyleaks.com does.
      
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      May 14, 2026 3:01pm
    - OlderChas
      
      PPII back in 1979 I had to invigilate an exam for 70 odd trainees selected for military Apprenticeship Training. (After 4pm so the precious Instructor Officers couldn’t stay to do their job!) Every one of these kids had School Certificate, every one of them had UE and a lot of them had Bursaries.
      As they handed in their papers and left the room while others continued I idly read through some of the answer papers. I had heard that modern day teachers weren’t too concerned about perfect spelling or punctuation, but the english in these papers was bloody shocking! I really, really struggled to work out what they were trying to say.
      I buttonholed the Instructor Officer charged with teaching these kids expressing my concern. He agreed that some of the spelling, sentence construction and particularly punctuation was “not flash”, but told me teachers (he was just a teacher in a military uniform) not to be fussed about it – as long as they could work out what the kid was trying to say, all was fine. I just walked away – sans salute!
      
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      May 14, 2026 5:33pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It will be both… immigration of folks with limited reading/writing experience of English; but it will also encompass the pupils who were in our primary schools during the 1990s- 2010 when the push to whole language reading was in full swing.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_language
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:37am
- Ghost
  
  According to AI it is mostly Maori and pacific islanders, it pointed out in 2014 when it was last released they had the largest improvement
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:59am
- kowtow
  
  There has been at least one generation(plus) of dreadful levels of literacy in NZ schools .
  
  This is a home grown problem and the education dysfunctional system carries a lot of responsibility.
  
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  May 14, 2026 1:13pm
  - greybeard
    
    It is not just the education system.
    Computer games and cellphones have a lot to answer for: they have supplanted books in many homes and resulted in falling standards of the English language, both spoken and in reading.
    I’ll bet my left nut that there are many, many homes in NZ which are devoid of books or any reading material: how can kids improve in those conditions ?
    The obsession with mobile phones is a social and educational disaster.
    
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    May 14, 2026 3:28pm
mandk

The Pope is just another useful idiot.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/pope-infuriates-iranians-by-awarding-top-vatican-honour-to-tehran-ambassador/ar-AA236Yd4?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=6a05183f81814a91afa98557bd97b19f&ei=75

Who cares if it is customary for the Vatican to award honours to time-served Ambassadors?

He shouldn’t honour any representative of a brutal, oppressive regime, whose aim is to impose Islam on the world.
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May 14, 2026 12:53pm
Ian Boag

Interesting comment about alcohol from Nicolle McKee.

The overwhelming majority of New Zealanders consume it without incident and without imposing costs on others. …. restricting the freedom of everyone here because of a minority who behave badly is neither fair nor effective

Pretty much goes for cannabis too …. go figure.
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May 14, 2026 1:19pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  That is true.
  But the other side of the coin is you need reasonable penalties for dangerous misuse (like with alcohol).
  Once that’s in place it’s fair to make it legal.
  
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  May 14, 2026 1:34pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Yes, killing someone while driving pissed should carry the same penalty as murder.
    
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    May 14, 2026 3:03pm
  - Ian Boag
    
    Stoners don’t generally get violent like drunks. No doubt there are exceptions, but generally you don’t read about it.
    
    Driving is obviously a nono and in the absence of a “blow here” test, picking it up can be a bit hard. The saliva thing doesn’t work for pulling over all the traffic and 100% administration as it takes too long for a result. All the old “walk the line” stuff still works though …
    
    I don’t recall reading about accidents where dope on its own was a factor – more often there was booze and other stuff involved IIRC.
    
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    May 14, 2026 3:42pm
    - marcw
      
      There is this today from Rotorua – allegedly excessive THC caused 4 deaths.
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rotorua-crash-accused-dante-lamont-judge-pushes-for-earlier-hearing-over-four-deaths/KQF2G3Z4SRCO3LESC6NBRLJCJY/
      [not paywalled]
      
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      May 14, 2026 5:40pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Sure. Allegedly. Might even be correct. That’s one accident.
        
        In the last year or so there have probably been a whole lot more accidents where drivers were known to be under the influence. But that’s OK because most users – that we know of – don’t drive when they are over the limit ….
        
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        May 14, 2026 6:53pm
- Phronesis
  
  …and guns.
  
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  May 14, 2026 3:41pm
rjay

It would appear that the further away from Northland one is the better your life expectancy if you are Maori.
Theories?
https://figure.nz/chart/YOv4si9lvJOhpunr
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May 14, 2026 1:29pm
- Phronesis
  
  I suspect that you would see a strong correlation with how white those maori really are. Most maori are minority maori and the vast majority quite a small minority at that.
  
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  May 14, 2026 3:45pm
Prince

Does anyone have any hints on how to erase the awful toe fungus ads that crop up everywhere on this blog ?
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May 14, 2026 1:57pm
- mandk
  
  The ad is like toe fungus itself.
  
  You just can’t get rid of it 🙂
  
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  May 14, 2026 2:31pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Not wanting to overload you, I will suggest first try using Brave Browser.
  
  Many companies make money by having you constantly spied on by big tech (via your phone, browser, operating system, and various applications) . Web pages are built full of trackers designed to collect data about your online activities. This is so ads can be tailored to the (very extensive) profiles big tech and subterranean/opaque “data brokers” have on you. This has been allowed to happen because the internet has been in many respects a lawless wild west and big tech have taken advantage of this. Most people, including politicians, have not grasped the significance of this incredible destruction of individual privacy. Companies making money from this setup don’t like things that block ads. Selling (targeted, if possible) advertising makes them money. On the other side of the ledger, users blocking ads throws a spanner in the works and sends an “F.U.” message to the whole privacy invading matrix.
  
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  May 14, 2026 11:57pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    And to answer “but how will companies make money if they can’t get revenue from (spying based, aka “targeted”) advertising?” The answer is, instead, make an attractive subscription offering. Most advertising is highly unwanted and annoying (by the targets) “attention theft” anyway.
    
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    May 15, 2026 12:20am
mandk

Interesting graph.

Māori life expectancy is higher everywhere in the South Island than anywhere in the North Island.

And the difference between the highest (Tasman) and lowest (Northland) is enormous: 8 years.
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May 14, 2026 2:35pm
- Swifty
  
  Very interesting.
  
  Maybe it’s life choices rather than systemic and institutional racism after all.
  
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  May 14, 2026 9:00pm
Swifty

Massive fraud in LA hospices:

https://x.com/foxnews/status/2054635384378655159?s=46

I’ve also read recently that subsequent to the exposure of the 400-500 fraudulent, largely Somali, daycares in Minnesota, and cancellation of their funding, not a single one has complained.

You’d think if they were legit, and they had a flock of kids to look after, they’d be jumping up and down and screaming to the press.

But no.

What does that tell you?
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May 14, 2026 3:12pm
- NothingLeft
  
  That they have leared a trick or two about how to defraud the system with the least personal risk.
  
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  May 14, 2026 4:15pm
Ghost

I guess I fell asleep and have woken up in the upside. How long has Tākuta Ferris been an independent? did he leave the Māori party with Mariameno Kapa-Kingi

Peters said Ferris had been scheduled to ask a question to a minister on Thursday. Parties get to ask a certain number of questions, based on the size of their caucus. With Ferris being an independent MP, it isn’t every day that he gets to ask a primary question.

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May 14, 2026 5:54pm
- MCōs
  
  He was deleted from TPM seven months ago
  
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  May 14, 2026 6:12pm
  - Ghost
    
    November, ha, shows how little attention i pay
    
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    May 14, 2026 6:31pm
    - Swifty
      
      Tamihere booted them both at the same time, but only Kapa-Kingi fought for reinstatement.
      
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      May 14, 2026 6:47pm
greybeard

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/stephanie-tully-jetstar-ceo-on-qantas-and-jetstar-committing-to-nz-despite-axing-flights/

Given the large losses expected for Air NZ this year, maybe Qantas is lining themselves up to make a takeover bid for AirNZ.

Just a thought.
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May 14, 2026 6:05pm
Ghost

This is disgusting, it shouldn’t be tolderated

There are concerns that increasing abuse is discouraging wahine Māori from entering politics.

Green MP Tamatha Paul is calling for social media regulation and hate speech laws to be strengthened as threats against MPs continue to rise.

Comments such as: “What an ignorant ridiculous … female.”

“Another stupid green skinned bitch.”

“You racist pig.” And “2 bullets could have prevented this post.”

Article

Both sides of the political fence need to stop this, and stand up to it when they see someone from their side acting like this
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May 14, 2026 7:00pm
Fisiani2

Celtic play Hearts 11.30 pm Saturday night our time.
If Hearts win or draw they win the league.
If Celtic win they win the league. for the 5th time in a row.
90+ minutes to decide the league outcome.
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