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Positan

Gerry Brownlee is obviously losing it, as his treatment of the ACT MP Simon Court showed. To then go further and kick David Seymour out for “unparliamentary” language in his point of order in support of his colleague – although that point of order’s substance was surely non-contestable.

As Speaker, Brownlee has disappointed me from the start. After Mallard’s excesses and almost total abdication of the oversight expected, I thought Brownlee would at least re-establish former measures of conduct and dress standards – but he’s done very little to restore public respect for the House.

Under him, the excesses have become more established.

On the Lockwood Smith scale of capability, Brownlee simply doesn’t feature.
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May 20, 2026 8:03am
- artemisia
  
  The publicity won’t do Mr Seymour any harm.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:05am
- Ghost
  
  All supplementary questions were used, the member had no more to use, speaker moved to the next question. If you want to get up and say the ruling is crap, then you get kicked out. Come on, we demand the speaker pull in the behaviour of the opposition but whinge when he does it to the government
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:09am
- pdm
  
  I did not hear Court’s Point Of Order or Question but, thought what Seymour said was unnecessary and a bit stupid.
  
  A departure from his normal manner in the house.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:11am
  - rouppe
    
    And that is concerning.
    
    Because mouthing off is what he did in the lead up to the last election, and he lost a good 5% because of it.
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:58am
    - R
      
      Seymour seems to have a degree of arrogant immaturity. Often happens to people who are stationed above their life’s experiences.
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:45pm
    - [email protected]
      
      It isn’t just last election. Kinda has been his thing the last two or three elections. This is a bit early for him to be doing this as I had been assuming he was buying into his own self-press which was causing this.
      
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      May 20, 2026 3:07pm
  - Ghost
    
    Suze Redmayne called for a supplementary, there were none left. Speaker moved to the next question, Simon called a point of order. Speaker warned him not to contradict standing orders and speakers rules on supplementary questions. He said he understood Suze had further supplements. Speaker told him he was wrong. Seymour told the speaker members have a right to raise a point of order without that kind of crap from you. Seymour went bye bye. Full exact details can be found in hansard
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:32am
    - Quail
      
      Ghost,
      Be aware of the speakers background, being a true National Party member for many terms.
      ACT ,although at present a Coalition member ,is a thorn in the side of National because ACT are getting the votes that National used to expect as of right , and did nothing for.
      So the more adverse pressure put on ACT by National the better polling results for the National Party.
      IMHO Seymour’s support ( language aside )of his own party member was justified, and the Speakers reaction unnecessary at best.
      Expect more Borgias style politicking from National ( and NZ first ) in the near future!
      
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      May 20, 2026 6:32pm
- David Garrett
  
  Positan: Lockwood Smith was far and away the best speaker in a generation
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:12am
  - Positan
    
    Surely, that is what I sought to imply.
    
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    May 20, 2026 8:21am
  - Graeme Hall
    
    Low bar..
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:09pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Gerry and Trevor are both former teachers. You’d have thought that they were better equipped to deal with unruly pupils.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:11am
  - kowtow
    
    They’re from the generation of teachers who acted as midwives to the rise in unruly pupils.
    
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    May 20, 2026 1:42pm
- Rumblestrip
  
  Simon Court: Mr Speaker—Mr Speaker, point of order.
  
  SPEAKER: This better be a good point of order, and it better not contradict Speakers’ Rulings and Standing Orders when it comes to supplementary questions.
  
  Hon Members:Ha, ha!
  
  Simon Court: It doesn’t, as far as I’m aware. I understood that one of the members still had further supplementaries, Mr Speaker.
  
  SPEAKER: Did you indeed? Well, you were wrong. Dan Rosewarne.
  
  Dan Rosewarne: Thank you, Mr Speaker—
  
  Hon David Seymour: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, members of this House have a right to raise a point of order without the kind of crap that he just got from you.
  
  Court may have been mistaken, but it seems to be a genuine and politely put point of order. Brownlee replied with a degree of rudeness and the House piled on with laughter.
  
  Unfortunately, having had the heat turned up slightly by Brownee, Seymour turned it up further.
  
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  May 20, 2026 4:24pm
Cassandra

PM Luxon: “The New Zealand Navy is in the market for new frigates.”

“We’ll run a very clear procurement process. We’ve got to really lift our defence capability………………………improving and enhancing our national security.”

This is most welcome. Luxon also talked of “doubling our defence budget”. Acquiring three new frigates will need that, with the associated need for more and much better paid staff.

I have a relative in the Air Force. His engineering department has three of its required nine staff.
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May 20, 2026 8:05am
- kowtow
  
  We need to send some of our defence “experts” to study how they do war in Iran, seeing how they’ve defeated the greatest imperial power in the world . //
  
  On a serious note though , the Ukrainians could teach us plenty .Esp drone warfare.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:13am
  - david in Aus
    
    What a relief! Great that the Straits of Hormuz is open. When will Trump get sick of all this winning.
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:01am
  - rouppe
    
    Exactly. If you’re going to buy frigates, you need 3 of them.
    
    Which is why I keep asking, why buy frigates. We can be much more effective in our EEZ with lethally capable drones, integrate much more effectively with allies with those same drones, already have Posiedon which we could fit out with more lethal capability.
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:02am
    - Cassandra
      
      rouppe: we’re not protecting our zone. Our strategy is and will be to work with Australia to keep any conflict as far away as possible and to keep our sea lanes open. As Hormuz has demonstrated that must be our highest priority.
      
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      May 20, 2026 11:23am
    - Michael Sommerville
      
      As has been demonstrated in the Straits of Hormuz, drones have limitations.
      
      We need frigate size vessels to patrol our EEZ which is huge. This can’t be done completely with drones. We also need a navy capable of operating with our cousins across the ditch. If there is going to be any conflict in our area, it is most likely to come from north of Australia.
      
      While the new technologies should be part of our defence planning and operation, you still have to have some of the big hardware.
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:08pm
      - rouppe
        
        In my opinion, a frigates can’t patrol diddly squat of our EEZ. They’re way to slow. What’s their cruising speed, 15-20 knots?
        
        The drones in the Strait of Hormuz are cheap, one way flying bombs.
        
        Sea Guardian drones can fly for 30 hours over the horizon. At 300 kph. Armed with Hellfire.
        
        They can keep our sea lanes open just as easily as a frigate. They cost $30M usd. A frigate will be a good billion.
        
        But… 🤷
        
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        May 20, 2026 8:47pm
  - Blackfan
    
    NZDF – Army – are currently training Ukrainians.
    Its such a demanding job that the government has recently decided to give medallic recognition to the trainers.
    
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    May 20, 2026 7:51pm
- rangitoto
  
  No need for any process, just get on with it and send in the order for five of the upgraded Mogamis. Hopefully get them delivered before Australia gets theirs.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:27am
- Simon
  
  The internment camps for the Chinese living here first. Or will their property be confiscated and deported.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:36am
- imalwaysright
  
  Groan.
  
  So billions on more gear that we pay 10,000 people to spend decades polishing (or sinking), until it become a collectors item?
  
  We’ve spent over $40 billion on this lurk since 2016 for zero return.
  
  Winston, three weeks in to the Iran war, said he hadn’t heard from the US or anyone else wanting our boat.
  
  $40 billion would have bought us a coal/fuel/fertiliser/CO2 refinery and some decent bridges and other infrastructure.
  
  In the last week we gave them another $100,000,000.
  
  This week we will give them another $100,000,000….
  
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  May 20, 2026 11:10am
  - Cassandra
    
    Groan indeed, ima. And precisely what will you be refining? How will it get here and what will we be exporting?
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:26am
    - imalwaysright
      
      South Island coal, Cassandra.
      
      My point is that NZ is almost impossible to defend and our contribution to regional defence is token, at best.
      We should be instead spending the money on making the country as self sufficient as possible.
      I respect the intentions of those in the military, but the reality says otherwise.
      
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      May 20, 2026 11:50am
- Tom Hunter
  
  Readers may be interested in a guest post done back in 2022 at No Minister by one “Udea Station”, a military analyst, The Replacement of the RNZN Anzac Frigates.
  
  One aspect I’d never considered, not being a military chap, was this:
  
  As for numbers, three hulls are the absolute minimum number of Frigates the Kiwi Navy requires for the next 30 years – a fourth hull, though optimal, can be ordered later. Nevertheless, the RNZN must also have what is called a “Zero Ship”; in other words a land based frigate training centre that replicates onshore all functional competency tasks required thus allowing the 3-vessel frigate fleet to spend more time at sea conducting security operations.
  
  One aspect that may hurt all this is that our Navy is short of people. A mate of mine has now had his contract extended well beyond his retirement age simply because there are few youngsters training for his slot.
  
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  May 20, 2026 2:13pm
- sungsamning
  
  I gather the USN build them by the mile, and cut them off at the nearest inch. Might be a good place to look. Trump won’t mind.
  
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  May 20, 2026 2:26pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Cass. Having served in the Airforce for 12 years I can attest to over staffing.
  
  The question should be does his Engineering department(process all that needs to be processed?)
  
  Does it really really need 9 staff?
  
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  May 20, 2026 3:01pm
artemisia

‘I dread shopping’: Weekly groceries become an ordeal as cost of living bites

RNZ reporter Amy Williams reports on bananas and mince but nothing about total household income and why it only allows $300 pw for groceries for 6. Certainly some teens are not cheap to feed.

At least one in the family is 20 so bringing in some income, and there is reference to food bank and Variety. Any accommodation subsidy? Maybe there is child support?

When a state funded broadcaster only gives part of a story that has to suggest political bias doesn’t it? If that’s not the case please explain the gaping holes in the story.

Interesting photo in the article.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/personal-finance/595724/i-dread-shopping-weekly-groceries-become-an-ordeal-as-cost-of-living-bites
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May 20, 2026 8:08am
- pdm
  
  arty – over the last 9 years RNZ have made Political Bias into an art form.
  
  One should not expect anything less from one of their reporters.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:15am
  - kowtow
    
    Especially one whose Inglese is so dreadful.
    
    “These are the isles she walks right past:”
    
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    May 20, 2026 8:19am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It looks like RNZ’s senior reporter doesn’t proof read…
      She’s also written:
      noticably for noticeably
      and
      contant rationing choice (whatever does that mean?)
      and seems to have run out of punctuation when she includes a longish quote from Wayne Howett.
      
      Roll on the school Literacy exams……can’t come soon enuf!
      
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      May 20, 2026 10:11am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Looking at that photo, it looks like the good lady in it eats all the groceries herself. 😆
        (Ooh – I’m a naughty boy for fat shaming)
        
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        May 20, 2026 11:01am
      - Apteryx
        
        Written by Amy Williams, a ‘senior’ reporter. I wonder what her literacy level was when she was a junior reporter.
        
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        May 20, 2026 2:23pm
    - Scooter
      
      To be fair maybe she meant she was shopping at Waiheke. Anyway Amy really needs to proof read her work, but then slamming the govt is more important than checking her work.
      
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      May 20, 2026 10:35am
  - kowtow
    
    Also what is deliberately being with held .
    
    The children are ‘under her wing’ .Not even her own?And where is/are the fathers , where is their responsibilty in feeding ,being in their children’s lives . We’re not told .
    
    Note the activist reporting tells us power and food prices up due to Iran war .
    
    Nothing to do with structural inflation from covid spend up , irresponsible govt spending. Climate catastrophe regulations.Loss of land to permaforests. Etc
    
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    May 20, 2026 8:41am
  - RoboRob
    
    I have noticed that every article RNZ publish that relates to electricity, no matter what the subject, has a few lines in it saying how the govts proposed (planned?) LNG terminal is a waste of money / not requried / old thinking. Its almost like they are running a campaign against the policy, surely not.
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:14am
  - R
    
    Isn’t Political Bias a University degree course now days. Certainly seems to be judging from public media reporting.
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:48am
- David Garrett
  
  Art: Yes indeed…the photo suggests that she is morbidly obese…it would be interesting to see what the five children look like. Thete is only one way you get to be morbidly obese
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:18am
  - Swifty
    
    As my dear departed uncle used to say, that woman is looking very prosperous.
    
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    May 20, 2026 8:44am
    - Poppax8
      
      Wondered if her t-shirt was from recent overseas travel?
      
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      May 20, 2026 9:32am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      A lot of fabric in that dress.
      
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      May 20, 2026 10:13am
  - RoboRob
    
    To be fair, often the foods that are bad for you are the cheapest. If I wanted to cut our food budget, I could more then halve it by buying fish and chips for tea much more often. It is not uncommon for poorer people to be larger. When you go to a high decile school the mothers (and fathers) are all in active wear and looking good. When you go to a low decile school they are ‘larger’.
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:17am
    - greybeard
      
      If you think fish & chips is a cheap meal you obviously haven’t bought any for quite some time !
      
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      May 20, 2026 9:28am
      - RoboRob
        
        Our local fish and chippy is surprisingly cheep. We dont ofen buy but I believe last time it was about $$3 per item (fish / scoop). Large piece of shark and generous scoops.
        
        But yeah, I agree a lot of F&C shops are crazy expensive. Nelson fish and chips, for some reason, seem especially crazy.
        
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        May 20, 2026 10:07am
      - Swifty
        
        My local in Blockhouse Bay does me a nice perfectly cooked scoop of chips, a small to medium sized fillet of gurnard and a can of Coke Zero for $10.
        
        I find that quite reasonable.
        
        I’ve always got the makings of a good tartare sauce on hand and which I whip up in advance.
        
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        May 20, 2026 10:58am
      - Ghost
        
        Scoop of chips, 3 fish and several muscles costs us $21. Large chicken fried rice from the same shop, feeds 3 of us, $19
        
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        May 20, 2026 11:12am
    - Mummy
      
      We had fish n chips from our local the other night. Fresh blue cod with half a scoop of chips between us. Cost $48 for two of us but so worth it.
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:24pm
  - MCōs
    
    We live in South Auckland and there’s a few hefty people hereabouts.
    I would suggest a lot of it is down to cheap fat laden junk food, cheap fat laden cuts of meat, cheap white bread, cheap no name sugar laden fizzy drinks, cheap sugar, salt and fat laden breakfast cereal — all the stuff you and I avoid
    Ain’t no Farro’s gourmet boutique supermarket’s around here.
    
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    May 20, 2026 9:20am
    - R
      
      Farro’s is not where a budget conscious family provider would shop for food. Try Woolworths, or New World
      
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      May 20, 2026 9:53am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Pak & Save has plenty of healthy food, available at excellent prices.
      
      You just have to be prepared to cook.
      
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      May 20, 2026 10:14am
      - Don Beckett
        
        Also the volume of food consumed has a direct bearing. One should always finish their meal with the feeling that one could eat a little more.
        
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        May 20, 2026 11:05am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Interesting point, Don. Culturally, in the Islands it’s a huge offence by hosts to guests to run out of food, therefore, they always overcater. I guess it arises from the surplus/ starvation mode of food supply.
        
        When combined with cheap, high energy (sugared & fatty) food available in NZ, it’s a recipe for disaster.
        
        Polynesians in NZ really need a cultural reset on this point.
        
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        May 20, 2026 12:02pm
- Gravelroad
  
  1. This is not news.
  2. It is calculated electioneering by RNZ.
  3 . Many people got accustomed to free and easy, taxpayer funded living facilitated by the previous Labour government .
  4. They want that back.
  5. They might get that back later this year.
  6. There will be more of these “look at me” stories in the mean time.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:27am
  - Swifty
    
    Just wait till Labour get back in and relaunch ‘fair pay’ and pay equity legislation – household bills will skyrocket.
    
    Billions and billions of dollars annually in new and extra costs will be passed on to NZ families.
    
    Who’s RNZ going to go after then?
    
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    May 20, 2026 8:40am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      This is your solution to downsizing RNZ, Swifty?
      
      Surely not!
      
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      May 20, 2026 10:15am
      - Swifty
        
        Under Swifty’s Five Year Plan, RNZ would go to subscription only.
        
        If people value it they can pay for it.
        
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        May 20, 2026 11:00am
- Cassandra
  
  There’s something drastically wrong with our society when this happens. We don’t know the full story – where’s the father? – but the DPB wasn’t introduced to support the feckless. And the second part is RNZ ‘s half story. This is just a political hit. Half a story just to make the Government look bad. As an aside, a bit of exercise in the garden would do this woman a power of good.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:44am
- Taieri
  
  RNZ reporter Amy Williams reports on bananas and mince
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  The article claims:
  
  “At $30 a kilogram, mince is off the menu…”
  
  Woolworths was selling beef mince for $16.90/kg yesterday.
  Not sure what Mad Butcher charges but likely to be even less.
  
  “Fali buys long life milk, eggs and butter for baking.”
  
  The cheapest long life milk at P’n’S is about $2.29/litre. Standard milk at the Warehouse is $3.99 for 2 litres. Eggs at the Warehouse are currently $12 for 2 dozen.
  
  “Of the families Variety supports, 85 percent live on less than $50,000 a year, while more than half live on less than $30,000 a year.”
  
  We live on much less than $50K per year (just my super and some term investments), yet we eat well, live in a warm house and don’t receive Variety support, or any other support. Admittedly, there’s only two of us, but we know how to cook, grow most of our own veges, still make our own preserves and generally know how to live within our means.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:12am
  - MCōs
    
    Big difference between two and six, don’t you think?
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:04am
  - rouppe
    
    Milk powder is $12.49 for 1kg which makes 7.5 litres, or $1.66 a litre.
    
    I use milk powder in my caravan as it doesn’t go off, and I can make up what I need as I need it.
    
    Quoting $30 a kg for mince is clearly taking the piss
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:08am
  - Bullion
    
    What’s your rent or mortgage? Median rent in South Auckland for a 4bdr is about $40k for the year. I’m sure your electricity bill is much lower and commute is much cheaper (free potentially). So, yeah well done dunking on poor families.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:48am
    - artemisia
      
      Factor in taxpayer subsidies Bullion. Accommodation Supplement, TAS, Tenancy Costs Cover, various grants some recoverable some not.
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:42pm
    - Taieri
      
      I’m sure your electricity bill is much lower and commute is much cheaper (free potentially).
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      No mortgage, but plenty to pay in rates and insurance. Both keep increasing just about exponentially.
      
      Electricity bill as can be expected in the deep South with cooking and heating being electric. Power cost went up by 50% in the last 4 years.
      
      No commuting, but driving is expensive as my car is diesel powered.
      
      As my partner doesn’t qualify, we live on a single super, which is currently $427 after tax with an additional $350 or so from my partners investments.
      
      We have a garden, bake our own bread and make our own smallgoods.
      
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      May 20, 2026 1:10pm
  - Ghost
    
    that is a big problem. People no longer know how to grow their own food. You don’t need much space.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I agree there’s something odd going on here…
  
  Sure, beef mince is now expensive, but there’s no need to use premium quality mince for most mince meals.
  Woolworths has specials of mince at around $17/kilo.
  
  Chicken and Pork are cheaper options than beef…
  Chicken drumsticks are selling for $8/kg and pork shoulder for 10/kg.
  
  There’s no way I’d be using butter for basic baking these days. The blended butters (at at least half the price of butter) are excellent substitutes.
  
  I only have long-life milk on hand for emergencies when I haven’t been able to get to the shops for fresh milk. Anyway, powdered milk is a much cheaper alternative ( 100g – $1.37 will make up 1 litre).
  
  I do wonder how many folks these day know how to live economically and healthily. There’s a lot to be said for having been raised on porridge for breakfast, and barley-broth soups through winter.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:18am
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    WTF is premium quality mince?
    
    Mince is the rubbish meat from rubbish cows.
    
    Anyone buying ‘quality’ mince is pissing their money away.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:11pm
- Chris2
  
  She says she has no car and has to walk to the supermarket and is at least feeding five children and herself.
  
  The photo in the article only shows her with a small back-pack but in any event if she is really walking then she must have to visit the supermarket everyday because you can not possibly carry home goceries for six people in your hands, in one go, even if the children help.
  
  An election is looming, it must be time for the media to find people sleeping in cars again. too.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:29am
- Ghost
  
  She is right, the price of our power is ridiculous
  
  Can cut her food budget down a little already, stop buying long life milk.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:47am
- Simon
  
  Cost of living crisis = can’t carry the National party anymore.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:37am
  - Cassandra
    
    And the left will miraculously change that, Simon, by taxing the rich? Do you have a solution? I thought not.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:34am
Sparrow

Nothing changes, just the name. Gone through serf, slave, vassal, villain etc etc. Now the boss of Standard Chartered Bank has coined a new phrase ” lower value human capital “. Presumably the Minister of Finance will be using that terminology in her budget speach.
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May 20, 2026 8:15am
Benedict Yu

With an election approaching it is worthwhile to reflect on the important issues facing New Zealand. Politicians generally refuse to face these issues. Our children and grandchildren will pay the price. Or, more likely, leave.

Let’s take climate change policy.

I reviewed the original economic impact analysis of the Zero Carbon Act.

The Ministry for the Environment’s synthesis found that reaching full net zero by 2050 could reduce GDP by somewhere between $25 billion and $85 billion compared with a business-as-usual path.

That wide range reflects two scenarios:

$25 billion lower GDP — if New Zealand innovates strongly: cleaner energy, farms cutting methane, and efficient adaptation.

$85 billion lower GDP — if innovation stalls and we rely heavily on costly carbon credits and overseas offsets.

Expressed as a share of the economy, this is a reduction of roughly 10%–21% of GDP in 2050 compared with a no-action baseline.

https://environment.govt.nz/assets/Publications/Files/Zero-Carbon-Bill-Economic-Analysis-Report-FINAL.pdf

Now thst is not a catastrophic impact. But it is very adverse, and worthy of debate. Of course the responsible Minister is invisible. Can you name him without looking him up?

We deserve better.

On a different topic, the announcement yesterday of the public service staff reductions is welcome. However why have they not acted until now?

I was disappointed to read…. “the Ministry of Education (excluding its tertiary functions) is excluded from this specific baseline savings exercise.”

Why? The entire Ministry of Education is the worst performing government agency. Also it is huge. It has grown at an astonishing rate. It could lose 1,000 staff and still be bigger than it was in 2017. Just take that in. 😳
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May 20, 2026 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  M Ed , gone from something like 600 under H Clark to 5000 odd now .
  And what has the country got to show for that ; pupils have never performed so badly.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:26am
  - Paulus
    
    What a wonderul day
    This Government has announced the reduction in the Public Service over three years or until Labour get back in.
    Remember the Public Service has already had a trial run, for which they are leading experts in doing all that they can to keep things their way.
    They are astute as such as liars and obfuscationists and professionists in continuing what they have done since Helen Clark put them into that position.
    What a laugh for a Wednesday.
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:03am
- imalwaysright
  
  “However why have they not acted until now?”
  
  The New Zealand electoral cycle:
  
  Six months of promises, and then thirty months of excuses.
  
  We fall for it every single time.
  
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  May 20, 2026 8:30am
- RoboRob
  
  ‘However why have they not acted until now?’
  
  My question indeed. A subsequent question would be, ‘Will they actually follow through on their promise this time/’.
  
  Re ministry of Ed. My wife works there now. I here area the job has grown in two ways, many more kids with the issues she works with* and secondly the job was expanded from pre school to include primary school (coalition policy). It is not unreasonable to need more staff to deal with the increased workload. She usually has 30-50kids on her wait list. She also hasn’t had a pay rise for years as her hopeless union has made a hash of negotiations. At some stage the ministry will have to increase pay.
  
  * Interestingly there seems to be a strong correlation between ethnicity and certain issues. I am not talking Maori here. Suffice to say, there are a number of imported ethnicities that more frequently have major learning issues. There also is growth in issues locally, we need to look at why, is it food, medication, environmental or something else? Usually its not the partents who tend to have other kids who are fine.
  
  She deals with learning and physical issues.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:26am
  - artemisia
    
    May not be relevant to her work RoboRob but this recent book is getting a lot of attention.
    
    The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt.
    
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    May 20, 2026 4:03pm
- Simon
  
  lol – stop voting National.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:38am
  - Cassandra
    
    What we want, Simon, is the cure for Labour’s disastrous and inept time in government. More Labour is not a solution.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:37am
    - imalwaysright
      
      There doesn’t seem to be a cure for Labours inflation.
      Inflation is the wound that never heals.
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:04pm
  - Eastlander
    
    The following observation is not meant for you – you are after all, merely posting demoralisation agitprop for the benefit of Chippie – but for those who might be briefly tempted by your accustomed line of argument, let me put it plainly: punishing the center-right by withholding one’s vote from them, in the hope that they may learn a lesson from a suitably painful electoral loss, does not work.
    
    It has been tried in America, it has been tried in Britain. The ‘lesson’ that wets in right-wing parties invariably take from defeat is that they need to move closer to the left. The British Conservative and Unionist party responded to their drubbing of 2024 by handing the party leadership to what can only be described as a black Tory Whanau and shoving their last few vaguely right-wing ministers out the door. You do not win a game by taking your ball and going home.
    
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    May 20, 2026 12:10pm
- Interested Party
  
  It may be strategic decision, not to upset MOE staff morale whilst implementing generational changes to the education system. Staff reductions may occur once they are bedded in
  
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  May 20, 2026 11:37am
lifesgood

I have just stupidly read Steve Brunias’ account of the Auckland Book festival on Newsroom and I feel quite ill. Surely he’s taking the piss, surely he doesn’t really think Jacinda is worth a tin of fish. If he was taking the mick he didn’t take it far enough. Of course chances are he’s just another brain dead lefty.
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May 20, 2026 8:41am
- David Garrett
  
  lifes: Of course chances are he’s just another brain dead lefty.
  
  Braunias is among the very worst of the brain dead lefties…he’s also an asshole of the first order (those two things are not necessarily synonymous.
  
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  May 20, 2026 11:04am
  - lifesgood
    
    DG Yes, I’ve heard that about him (asshole) from other sources. Not someone I’d ever want to befriend.
    
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    May 20, 2026 12:50pm
Damocles11

‘The Pentagon recently placed the largest drone order in American history — 30,000 one-way attack drones, with plans to scale past 300,000 by early 2028. There’s one major problem: every one of those drones runs on a rare earth magnet. And according to Goldman Sachs, roughly 98% of the world’s magnets are manufactured in China.
Today, at least 80,000 components across 1,900 U.S. weapons systems depend on Chinese-sourced rare earths. That’s not just drone motors — it includes guidance systems, sensors, and virtually every platform the Pentagon fields.’
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May 20, 2026 8:54am
- Jethrod
  
  Why do you think the latest China/US summit just happened? “…….the biggest in history” or words to that effect!
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:59am
- Simon
  
  Do you think Iran will have gay marriage? What’s the general take here?
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:39am
Swifty

What are the chances that two of NZ’s finest and sharpest minds meet so randomly like this and share a moment?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17ZTiSnC7N

A visitor from a Taupo social club meets an academic from Auckland University.
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May 20, 2026 8:54am
Clogs

Rather than mass layoffs, why just not reduce the over-inflated salaries? How much could be saved by reducing salaries over 100k by 20%?
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May 20, 2026 9:10am
- Simon
  
  lol – there are no mass layoffs. Nearly one in four working age will continue to be employed in some capacity by the state.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:40am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  How about cutting out the regular and frequent karakia and waiata practice? An hour per week across 65,000 public servants equates to 3,000,000 + hours of work annually, if I have my decimal point in the right place. There’s a few headcount, right there.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:53am
  - Sane Voice
    
    Exactly my thoughts.
    
    If they have time to expend doing non-core things them we have, at a minimum, that many staff too many.
    
    Also factor in the deadhead time of waddling too and fro. Get rid of double the first estimate.
    
    Cull the non-core staff immediately. Then look at everyone that is given more tax money than they would get on the dole. Winnon them like the grim reaper.
    
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    May 20, 2026 2:05pm
- Bobba Fret
  
  I heard on ZB that public service average wage was $105k, whereas private sector around $85k.
  
  I don’t know if these are 100% correct but wouldn’t surprise me.
  
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  May 20, 2026 2:24pm
mandk

It’s interesting to compare the readers’ comments under the Herald story on the public service employment downsizing announcement, with the comments under the equivalent story in the Post.

The Herald readers (mainly Auckland?) are not showing a lot of love for Wellington bureaucrats.
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May 20, 2026 9:11am
- RoboRob
  
  I dont think many outside of Wellington do 🙂
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:30am
  - mandk
    
    I think you are correct.
    
    It most probably won’t do the coalition parties any harm. The only coalition MP in the Wellington area who might lose a seat is Chris Bishop in Lower Hutt, and he is high on the National list.
    
    Butterick and Costley probably have fewer public servants in their electorates.
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:13am
    - MCōs
      
      Relying on the National list for a seat in Parliament might be fraught with danger this election
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:29pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Hmm. 43% of public servants of the type contemplated by Nicola for cuts reside outside of Wellington. The joy is sure to be shared.
  
  Personally, I see this as an opportunity, for both public sector staff and for business. Public servants are well educated; the cuts represent an NZ located workforce who can be the people so many businesses are needing. For the individuals, this is an opportunity to try something different. You only live once, after all. Perhaps this will be the nudge needed to launch a business, work in private industry or pack the family up & go somewhere new.
  
  In chaos is opportunity.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:23am
- Simon
  
  There is no downsizing. It’s insane. It’s election year fake news.
  
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  May 20, 2026 10:42am
Rusty

Could the lack of MSM coverage on the A-league final this weekend have anything to do with Auckland FCs owner US billionaire Bill Foley who financially supports Donald Trump?
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May 20, 2026 9:12am
- RoboRob
  
  Nah, its the Jewish space lasers.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:31am
- Ghost
  
  Coverage of the what. Oh soccer.
  
  Google it and you will find articles.
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:37am
  - Ra Henare
    
    So what is this soccer thing.??
    Ahh I looked it up. Kick a ball
    
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    May 20, 2026 3:14pm
- MCōs
  
  I can’t say I’m aware of the chap, but he certainly doesn’t get the media attention of Mark Robinson who owns the Warriors
  The problem for Auckland FC is they play a sport that is way down the food chain in NZ behind rugby, league, cricket, netball and basketball
  
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  May 20, 2026 9:52am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Maybe at the top level, Cossie. At school, at competitive and at Masters (35+ and 45+), leagues are booming. Many more players than rugby or league.
    
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    May 20, 2026 10:26am
    - MCōs
      
      The A-League is the top level of football in NZ
      Btw
      If Auckland FC win the competition and continue to do well maybe a name change would be appropriate, but highly unlikely. The Aussies would rather make our teams honorary Australian
      
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      May 20, 2026 11:44am
    - imalwaysright
      
      A mate said that if you get sent off you get fined $250.
      Is that true?
      
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      May 20, 2026 12:09pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Rimutaka club
        
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        May 20, 2026 1:13pm
      - Groggy
        
        it depends what the red is for, it’s a sliding scale from $50 upwards. $250 would be very serious foul play or referee abuse – you’d also get a 5/6 week ban as well. If it’s minor; eg two yellows, being the last defender, handling on the line etc $50
        
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        May 20, 2026 3:28pm
      - imalwaysright
        
        Groggy,
        That’s a severe penalty for a social game. It must put a lot of people off playing.
        
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        May 20, 2026 5:57pm
imalwaysright

The fairest way to decimate the Public Service is to use the last digit of their IRD number and this weeks Powerball number.

If their IRD number ends in the Powerball number then give them a months notice.
(10 is zero)
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May 20, 2026 9:47am
- imalwaysright
  
  It should be televised.
  We’d all get 3 and a bonus every week…
  
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  May 20, 2026 12:10pm
I remember when

How do teachers ensure they embrace Treaty of Waitangi and te tiriti obligations when they are teaching English?
Is it time for someone to clarify exactly what the obligations are?
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May 20, 2026 9:50am
- Philview
  
  I recall the debate a few years ago that Maths was a “eurocentric” subject and fostering white supremacy.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2021/02/having_wrong_answers_in_maths_is_white_supremacy.html
  
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  May 20, 2026 11:00am
  - kowtow
    
    Yet when it suits ’em it’s Indus or Babylonian or Egyptian.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:31am
- Ian
  
  Well, they will be required to make Maori stories compulsory study and delete Shakespeare – because he’s colonialist, don’cha know…
  
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  May 20, 2026 12:51pm
R

There are no obligations within the Treaty of Waitangi. It is a historical document.
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May 20, 2026 10:28am
- MCōs
  
  The Magna Carta, 1215, is an historical document, but 3/63 of the original clauses have not been repealed, including the right to due process
  The Treaty, 1840, has never been repealed, however inconvenient that may be to some
  
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  May 20, 2026 11:04am
  - kowtow
    
    It was declared a “simple nullity” .Never contained any “principles” ( those have been made up in modern times ) .
    
    Meanwhile Runnymede’s principles still underpin the basics of our constitution.
    
    And indeed that of the United States of America.And of course the UK’s.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:28am
  - Cassandra
    
    There’s nothing to repeal. It was a nullity until empowering legislation was passed in NZ. But since neither side now agrees on the sovereignty issue it should revert to nullity.
    
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    May 20, 2026 11:43am
    - kowtow
      
      Prebble on the Platform gives the true history .
      
      Palmer snuck it into legislation , without reference to Cabinet , told prebble it was “window dressing”.
      
      https://theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/richard-prebble-how-the-undemocratic-treaty-principles-originated
      
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      May 20, 2026 1:59pm
Yvette

Public “Servants”
Finance Minister Nicola Willis said about 8700 jobs would be gone by mid-2029 – returning the public sector to the equivalent of about 1 percent of the population, which it had been historically.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/top/595712/public-servant-terrified-job-on-the-line-again-after-government-announces-more-cuts

Perspective:
Public Service
2017 election 47,252 FTEs
2020 election 57,149
2023 election 63,117
Latest official figure (“now”) September 2025. 63,162

The figures refer to the core Public Service [FTEs] — ministries and departments — not the entire public sector (teachers, nurses, police, Defence, councils, etc.).
The workforce peaked at about 65,699 FTEs in December 2023, then fell back.
From 2017 to the recent figures, the increase is roughly 16,000 additional FTEs, or about one-third growth overall

So Nicola Willis has about 7,300 to go before she is down to pre-Ardern numbers
________
Last time I attempted maths on kiwiblog I screwed up. Someone please check my numbers
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May 20, 2026 12:30pm
- Sane Voice
  
  I would be more keen to know what percentage of the workforce is comprised of these parasites on the taxpayer.
  
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  May 20, 2026 2:13pm
Ghost

The government has updated its official branding to give greater prominence to English over te reo Māori, following a directive from new Public Service Minister Paul Goldsmith.

Article
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May 20, 2026 12:53pm
- mandk
  
  Excellent.
  
  Now, to reflect the number of speakers of the respective languages, we need all public agencies to show their English name before the Māori name.
  
  And we need English names for all public bodies.
  
  It’s offensive to have only a Māori name for the new Wellington area water company.
  
  If it had an English name, but no Māori name, there would be outrage and complaints of racism.
  
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  May 20, 2026 1:01pm
  - Ian
    
    And we need English names for all public (bodies) toilets.
    
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    May 20, 2026 2:44pm
- RoboRob
  
  Government updates official branding to highlight English over te reo Māori
  
  ‘In a brief statement to RNZ, Goldsmith said: “This was a coalition commitment that hadn’t yet been achieved. Now we’re doing it.”‘
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/595776/government-updates-official-branding-to-highlight-english-over-te-reo-maori
  
  Really that says it all. Just so synical with an election coming up, but happy it may actually be happening
  
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  May 20, 2026 1:33pm
  - KKNZ2025
    
    It won’t actually happen before the election because of “consultation”. Performative theatre: if National meant to do it they would have done it in Y1.
    
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    May 20, 2026 2:58pm
cas

Another money making venture. Clarke G as a columnist.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/may/20/what-makes-a-place-home-cat-moving-house

On another tack, the political columnist in the Listener calls Hipkins a wretchedly terrible Education Minister.
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May 20, 2026 1:01pm
- Swifty
  
  As an Education Minister, Standford leaves Hipkins in the dust.
  
  The gap is vast.
  
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  May 20, 2026 2:14pm
  - Swifty
    
    I should elaborate on that.
    
    Hipkins presided over a massive expansion of education civil service staff numbers, significant expansion of centralisation and control, alarming education cost escalation, all while education KPIs went backwards.
    
    Truancy, NCEA pass rates, numeracy and literacy, the list goes on and on.
    
    Stamford is simply getting better outcomes with less. Her focus and targeted interventions are already bearing great fruit.
    
    Another few years of her and the lives of NZ families and students will be immeasurably better off.
    
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    May 20, 2026 4:25pm
Philview

The San Diego shooting raises a question mark over the reported gender of one of the killers.
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May 20, 2026 1:48pm
Swifty

You’ve got to really feel for this woman – an Indian trapped in a European body.

Thank goodness race-affirming care has saved her life.

https://x.com/timcast/status/2056880581208682963?s=46
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May 20, 2026 2:12pm
- Don Beckett
  
  She is lying – she doesn’t wobble her head as she talks. NOT AN INDIAN giveaway. 😆
  
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  May 20, 2026 3:37pm
  - Swifty
    
    I saw a wobble Don!
    
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    May 20, 2026 4:16pm
Swifty

Labour getting caned in the comments,
for their opposition to right-sizing the public sector.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1LAFGqiRfK
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May 20, 2026 2:31pm
Swifty

Where Britain goes we go.

https://x.com/sirwg202110/status/2056875799001616544?s=46

I’ve long held the view that one of the major reasons we should strongly resist the incursion of Maori spirituality and religious ceremony into our civic institutions is that it opens the door for others to barge through.

Resist it. Resist it while you still can.
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May 20, 2026 3:12pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360981238/meth-cannabis-and-cellphones-corrections-officers-allegedly-accepted-bribes-smuggle-contraband
Well, here are quite a few “public servants” who will be dropped. !
And hopefully they will all see Mt.Eden from the inside instead of from their normal location.
Who the hell is selecting and employing these creeps ?
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May 20, 2026 4:36pm
greybeard

Huge “Stuff” homepage headline:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360981257/super-rugby-pacific-crusaders-welcome-back-all-blacks-star-will-jordan-chiefs-clash

Right at the top of the article is a photo/video about some unknown player !
Does anyone at Stuff actually check any of their postings ?
Earlier today was an article about some woman who fell down a sinkhole somewhere in the US.
The heading said her car was a BMW.
The article said it was a Mercedes-Benz.
It has since been corrected.
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May 20, 2026 4:49pm
- greybeard
  
  I am not trying to nitpick or be pedantic: what I am saying is that if Stuff can publish articles containing such simple mistakes about mundane issues as if they were factual, then how can we really believe anything they say ?
  Like most KB posters I have a healthy disrespect for “Stuff” , but out there in the wide world are many who take things at face value and believe whatever they read.
  
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  May 20, 2026 5:00pm
Swifty

Brilliance from Ani O’Brien skewering NZ mainstream media:

https://x.com/aniobrien/status/2056895468207276128?s=46

How she digs up these clips I just don’t know.
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May 20, 2026 4:51pm
Swifty

Some good coin to be made at WCC:

https://x.com/darkwaterjack/status/2056965794844840005?s=46
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- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Jeez! No wonder Andrew Little got consigned to the broom cupboard with a view of the retaining wall. He’s just a low paid functionary, compared to those Council high flyers.
  
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