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NeverMindTheBollocks

I see that a super El Niño is predicted for this summer. It should be a good, warm one in NZ. A bit dry down the East Coast, though.

We’re being advised to prepare.

Do you think the activists opposed to the revamped Ruataniwha dam scheme will rethink their opposition?

http://www.1news.co.nz/2026/06/03/well-and-truly-on-its-way-el-nino-very-likely-to-peak-over-nz-summer/
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June 4, 2026 8:03am
- RoboRob
  
  The activists at the energy companies working to sabotage nationals LNG terminal were out last week with the Meridian CEO saying NZ had no need for LNG backup and our supply was sound. Lets see how long that lasts during a warm dry winter. My money is on shortages again.
  
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  June 4, 2026 9:28am
  - kowtow
    
    Instead of importing LNG ( at huge cost) we should be exploiting our domestic coal supplies.
    
    Cheap, proven ,local , dependable , efficient and plentiful.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:13am
    - RoboRob
      
      The issue will be our carbon credits platform. If we increase the amount of coal used (we would likely need to add more coal turbines to Huntly, the existing extra turbines are gas ones) then we would need to buy more carbon credits. Therefore the cost is significant. Currently no politician is talking about backing away from this stuff.
      
      Also I believe the LNG would also be used to top up gas for home water heating, bbqs etc.
      
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      June 4, 2026 2:18pm
      - kowtow
        
        Drop the climate scam and there are no carbon “credits”.
        
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        June 4, 2026 2:49pm
      - Countrygirl
        
        Don’t we have lots of carbon credits we can’t sell? Can we use them?
        
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        June 4, 2026 3:51pm
    - virtualmark
      
      LNG is needed more for industrial uses (for example heating greenhouses) than for electricity generation.
      
      The challenge the country faces is that those mid-sized industrial users face big switching costs to replace boilers and the like. LNG would allow that switching to happen over a longer period (say 25 years) rather than being forced into a crisis change over a 2-3 year timeframe. So that’s the equation the Government is balancing.
      
      Gas for electricity is really just for peakers. It would be much cheaper to replace the gas generation with grid-scale batteries augmented by diesel peakers than to sign up for LNG. There is no magic about LNG or gas … we have other options for electricity generation that are more economic than LNG.
      
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      June 4, 2026 5:01pm
- pdm
  
  Doubt it Boĺlocks.
  
  The opponents are just a bunch of the usual against anything activists led by the nose hy a few Greens.
  
  One would have thought Geens would support well planned water storage. But, no – in true Green fashion they are against anything good for the country and Hawkes Bay in this case.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:06am
Maggy Wassilieff

Ani O’Brien writes on the cost of identity politics

https://www.brashandmitchell.com/post/ani-o-brien-henry-nowak-was-dying-police-didn-t-believe-him
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June 4, 2026 8:09am
- kowtow
  
  From Enoch Powell’s prescient “rivers of blood ” speech.
  
  “The words I am about to use,
  verbatim as they appeared in the local press on 17 February, are not mine, but those of a Labour
  Member of Parliament who is a minister in the present government:
  ‘The Sikh communities’ campaign to maintain customs inappropriate in Britain is much to be
  regretted. Working in Britain, particularly in the public services, they should be prepared to
  accept the terms and conditions of their employment. To claim special communal rights (or
  should one say rites?) leads to a dangerous fragmentation within society. This communalism is a
  canker; whether practised by one colour or another it is to be strongly condemned.’ “
  
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  June 4, 2026 8:40am
- Yabster
  
  Great article-and a wake up call to the Brits. NZ has the same issue with the public service lapping up the “white racist” crap – “institutional racism” etc- what a load of BS- individuals sure but not institutions. Schools and Uni’s are teaching this dribble to our kids – do you have children going to school?- if so do know what those morons are teaching them?
  
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  June 4, 2026 8:56am
  - Yabster
    
    why was that moderated? [ Mod – take up moderation issues with DPF ]
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:08am
    - leoj
      
      [ Mod – take up moderation issues with DPF ]
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:51am
    - Ra Henare
      
      Having taken up similar problems to DPF, IMHO he sides with his moderators.
      So good luck with that.
      
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      June 4, 2026 5:42pm
  - David George
    
    Most pertinent comment this week on the state of the UK from Konstantin Kisin:
    
    “Our country is run by people who believe that the best way to solve a problem is to pretend it doesn’t exist.”
    
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    June 4, 2026 12:04pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Back in the Muldoon era, we used to hear a lot about the balance of payments deficit, and how we were living beyond our means. Those phrases have fallen out of vogue since then.

NZ consistently spends more overseas than it earns. Eventually, our creditors will cut off the money supply.

Climate change alarmists seem to revel in existential threats. Perhaps they should divert their attention from a fake crisis to a real one.
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June 4, 2026 8:11am
- RoboRob
  
  If only national had cut costs. We now at least have a promise they will do so from next year. Hang on a minute wasn’t that the promise going into the 2023 election?
  
  Before I believe they actually plan on making the announced cuts I want to hear Willis or Luxon explain exactly why they didn’t do it this term and what stopped them. If the answer is Winston, sure thats fine. But lets not pretend theses promises haven’t been made and broken before.
  
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  June 4, 2026 9:33am
  - imalwaysright
    
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    Kiwis have been trained to believe that the Governments ability to complete tasks is limited to an individual Ministers own daily productivity.
    We have a mental picture of the Minister juggling multiple problems late into the night while being harassed by media and the Opposition.
    
    The fact is that each Ministry has more than enough staff to complete hundreds of tasks simultaneously.
    
    But they won’t do any of this unless the Minister directs them to.
    
    So, yes, we do need and deserve an explanation as to why these pre election promises have not been kept.
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:58am
  - leoj
    
    Nats are too chicken to make difficult decisions.
    
    I really, really, really, REALLY hope that the Treaty Principles Bill comes back to bite Luxon and his fellow wokestors in the bum.
    
    They need a huge wake up call.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:54am
    - R
      
      NZ will get the wakeup call, if they elect the present opposition; or vote to allow Winston to choose th government. After that it will be too late!
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:23pm
      - RoboRob
        
        Winston will be choosing the next government. They are the only party willing to go with either side, thus they are almost always the king maker.
        
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        June 4, 2026 2:21pm
  - R
    
    There have been more than sufficient explanations of the magnitude of the problem the COALITION inherited, even from the MSM. One has to listen to the government speaker, not the reporters or presenters cherry picking ‘story’.
    
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    June 4, 2026 12:27pm
    - RoboRob
      
      No there have not. I have not once heard Luxon say, we couldn’t make cuts because we were too busy doing other things. Which appears to be your argument for why the government didn’t make cuts.
      
      Besides the fact they have never claimed being too busy was the reason for not making cuts, your concept that a minister can only work on one issue at a time is faulty.
      
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      June 4, 2026 2:24pm
- Damocles11
  
  The balance of payments problem is largely a result of how we are running our economy. We are importing vast numbers of people who purchase imported goods, including fossil fuels. Meanwhile we have a relatively static productive sector which is required to carry a heavier and heavier load.
  And yet we are told that all of this immigration is actually fantastic for our economy. But, disregarding the hoopla from the pro-immigration cheerleaders, the hard evidence is that we have declining productivity, declining GDP growth per capita, and chronic issues with overloaded infrastructure & services.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:57am
- tavita
  
  In the Muldoon era we had a fixed exchange rate. A balance of payments deficit was a problem, forcing devaluation of the dollar. We now have a floating exchange rate and consequently no balance of payments deficit. We do have a balance of trade deficit but that isn’t necessarily a bad thing – it can happen if, for example, there is significant foreign investment in New Zealand.
  
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  June 4, 2026 8:22pm
peterwn

“New Zealand is likely to face a moderate economic drag rather than a derailment from the global oil shock, even if crude prices rise as high as US$125 (NZ$211.43) a barrel, EY modelling suggests – though the firm warns the shock is landing on an economy with limited room to absorb it.”

The situation has been very capably managed by the present government and this has confounded the doom and gloom merchants.
In particular skilled diplomacy and business acumen has enabled a good supply of fuels to keep flowing thus enabling NZ to pretty well keep functioning as normal.
Chris Luxon is accused of being just a ‘businessman’ but he is sure using his business skills and background for the benefit of NZ.
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June 4, 2026 8:21am
- MCōs
  
  “enabling NZ to pretty well keep functioning as normal”
  Except that fuel prices have gone through the roof, which may not be so bad for the well to do
  
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  June 4, 2026 8:56am
  - RoboRob
    
    How exactly do you think National could have prevented fuel price rises?
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:35am
    - Ghost
      
      Ambassador to Iran Dame Jacinda Ardern?
      
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      June 4, 2026 9:49am
      - imalwaysright
        
        We aren’t allowed to deploy biological weapons…
        
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        June 4, 2026 10:01am
      - peterwn
        
        She might go native, one of the hazards foreign affairs departments face with diplomats.
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:35pm
  - Handyman
    
    Petrol prices are still below those during the Ardern regime.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:10am
  - Wairoa Native
    
    Many of the ‘well to do’ took the $8,000 gift from Labour/Greens EV Subsidy largess to buy a new Tesla. They don’t care about the petrol price at the pump like the hoi polloi have to.
    
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    June 4, 2026 2:45pm
artemisia

AI is appearing increasingly in Kiwiblog comments, sometimes acknowledged sometimes not. No point in doing King Canute but there is some quite dramatic background in Alex Berenson’s Unreported Truths substack.

For example – With writing now effectively free, the amount of writing has exploded. The book database company Bowker reported in March that 3.5 million books were self-published in 2025 — up 40 percent from 2.5 million in 2024. AI-created stories, articles, and posts account for much of what users see on Substack and X too

A footnote mentions increasing in-person exams. Coming to a uni near us? Probably.

(Yes he is hoping for more subscribers but most of his content is free, so far.)

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-the-future-of-writing-and-unreported
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June 4, 2026 8:32am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  The internet is clogged with AI trash.
  This is not a good thing.
  
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  June 4, 2026 8:44am
  - leoj
    
    The “A” in AI is artificial.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:56am
    - R
      
      So is most of the ‘ I ‘ …..!
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:31pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    The internet IS trash. It’s a giant privacy destroying machine in the service of spamming people with shitty ads.
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:57pm
- waikatosinger
  
  The in-person exams story is funny as. The crowd wanting to abolish exams was on the brink of victory only have AI come along and completely undermine their position.
  
  Many subjects in the humanities have not had exams for a long time (as writing essays by hand is apparently a lost skill), and many have been trying to pressure science subjects to give up exams as well. That argument is now over. They lost. Exams are here to stay. And the people pushing to abolish them don’t know what to do.
  
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  June 4, 2026 9:51am
- cmm (semi-retired edition)
  
  IMHO the biggest problem with AI is that it is now at the point where it is highly convincing and people who do not understand the underpinnings (ie. over 99% of people) are not aware of the limitations.
  
  One of the larger limitations of LLMs is that they are not up to date (though they will partially update occasionally) and will regurgitate stale information.
  
  LLMs are also prone to “hallucination” seeing patterns that are not there. I recently had a look through a code review of around 20,000 lines of code. About 20% of the problems raised were identified in code that was not even there – it had just gone down some rabbit hole and was making shit up.
  
  The code review was still valuable – out of the 20 or so problems, there was one real problem worth addressing, but you need to take things with a pinch of salt.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:21am
  - artemisia
    
    That’s why we need experts, and should treasure them bigly. Less skilled not so much.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:31am
    - R
      
      The way to get sports, is to insist on self written exams; which demonstrate retained knowledge over at least a 12 month period, and more importantly the ability to reason and apply, that knowledge, in credible clearly explained text .
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:53am
      - artemisia
        
        Multiple choice is an option also, provided the questions are well and carefully constructed to test at the required level.
        
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        June 4, 2026 1:28pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    I use AI a lot from a technical perspective (as opposed to making birthday cards with it).
    
    I agree it can make a lot of mistakes convincingly and due to it being trained periodically it can provide incorrect instructions when a third party vendor has changed how their tools operate or even simply renamed a function.
    
    I did start thinking the errors were built in to make you spend more money as every time you need to correct a mistake and get it to regenerate code or instructions it’s consuming more tokens.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:32am
  - NoCash
    
    I don’t think that’s the case anymore, at least to a degree, as LLMs now search the Internet for up to date info. Granted the underlying reasoning model is trained on old data, but that generally doesn’t impair the responses.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:56am
  - SGA
    
    @cmm (semi-retired edition) – that said, our current AIs are the worst that we will ever have 🙂
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:14am
  - BananaLlama
    
    I actually just installed Easy Diffusion last night and found that the open source models are leagues above the paid for competition. Honestly can’t see how cloud service providers will compete unless they can cut costs significantly.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:26am
    - David George
      
      I have had very good research results from Grok (available on X) but note that it still uses/considers stuff from Wikipedia which is widely recognised as corrupt. GIGO.
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:10pm
      - BananaLlama
        
        Yeah it’s a similar problem with relevant information being gate kept on platforms like Discord. The model can’t find the actual solution to the problem until someone posts that information publicly on Reddit or elsewhere.
        I am sure they will eventually merge LLM’s together but that is well beyond my understanding.
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:22pm
  - Tom Hunter
    
    I encountered my first AI hallucination late last year when I was writing a post on newly elected NYC Mayor Mamdani and wanted to know what his inaugaration date was (I knew it was some time in January).
    
    I used Grok and incredibly it came back to assure me that Mandani had actually lost the Democrat Primary. The “hallucination” part is that it didn’t just tell me one falsehood but layered on others, as if to make it seem accurate.
    
    I got a screenshot (see it at the link above) before I teased Grok as a human would, writing “AYFKM? That seems to be totally wrong!”, at which point I watched it scanning through stuff, coming back with the facts, and even apologising!!!
    
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    June 4, 2026 12:32pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      My AI fun yesterday. I had been given the task of managing a 12 (or so) U3A (oldies) discussion group for a 1-hour session about the budget. So I asked chatgpt for some ideas
      
      I got back a very neatly stepped-out timeline – sequence of questions to raise – what to do if things slowed down, how to wrap things up etc etc. I might have been able to put together something like it in an hour or two but this popped out in 30 seconds …..
      
      My experience of chatgpt is that it is sometimes wrong and if challenged will usually backtrack. But when it is good it is very very good
      
      My 10c …. 🙂
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:55pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        I had a conversation with Claude AI just to test it out for sanity. Initially I asked it if there is a climate emergency. It suggested there possibly is. Not sure if it was just making me feel good but after I pointed out my reasons for beleiving there isn’t one, it agreed that there is not enough certainty in the available data to state there is one (I’m summarising here).
        What amazed me was the frighteningly fast responses it produced (like milliseconds it seemed) with very coherent responses.
        
        Mistral on the other hand just spewed unrelenting woke trash on the subject. Seemingly sourced from true-believer sites like Wikipedia.
        
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        June 4, 2026 10:05pm
Nukuleka

Sad to see that in the thread about the tragic murder of Henry Novak last evening one of our regular KB contributers promptly began talking about the problems of Muslim immigration, a pet topic of his. As is patently evident, the convicted killer and his wretchedly complicit family are Sikhs- nothing to do with Muslims. I am no fan of Islam but hijacking this tragic event in order to push one’s own pet anti- Muslim agenda is beyond the pale. Facts are important.
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June 4, 2026 9:13am
- David Garrett
  
  Nuku: I made a mistake…as soon as it was pointed out to me, I apologised for my error. What else would you have me do?
  
  Oh, and I don’t have a “pet anti-Muslim agenda”…I genuinely see Muslim terrorism as a serious – albeit not existential – threat to us. We appear to heed not the warnings from just across the ditch where 20 were killed a few months ago.
  
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  June 4, 2026 9:23am
  - Scott
    
    I guess it’s because it’s so often Muslims. It’s like there is a pattern that everyone can see.
    
    Let’s do the Daily Mail test. Crimes committed by Muslims in the Daily Mail today. Are there any?
    
    Well we have this:
    
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15870695/upskirter-filming-woman-escalator-Tube-station-spared-jail.html
    
    “Chef Hani Mustafa, 45, of Thorndon Road, Orpington, Kent, filmed the woman at London Bridge Station on April 13, 2024.
    Mustafa, who has a previous caution for the same offence from 2020, was arrested on May 16 and had his phone examined by police.”
    
    Now I think it’s pretty safe to think this guy is a Muslim?
    
    And then we have this:
    
    https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15870543/Pakistanis-gang-raped-French-tourist-three-children-executed-court-rules.html
    
    ” Two Pakistani men who gang-raped a French tourist in front of her three children”
    
    Now the Pakistan authorities have sentenced these men to the death penalty which is fair enough.
    But there does seem to be a problem with Muslims. Out of all proportion compared to other religions and nationalities.
    It’s like there is a pattern here?
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:12am
- Ghost
  
  as opposed to when an event happens and people pile on here claiming it was a Muslim. Like the stabbing in the Australian shopping mall a few years ago where so many people on this blog knew it was a Muslim who did it, problem was it wasn’t. How about the people that came on here blaming a Muslim for the man who killed people at the Lapu Lapu Festival. Or how about the Liverpool Parade Attack, again people on this blog blaming Muslims instead of wating for facts.
  
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  June 4, 2026 9:36am
  - Jethrod
    
    So , have you become an apologist for all supposed wrong-doings of Muslims who didn’t have a hand in reported happenings?
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:56am
    - Ghost
      
      actually, I prefer to wait for the facts to come out on who is behind it. But don’t create a post attacking David for a mistake he made and admitted he made when it is common practise on this blog to turn a tragic event into an attack on people not responsible for the event. Feel free to find a post where I have deafened Muslims for anything they have done, hint you wont, because I never have
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:04am
      - kowtow
        
        You could even say your silence was deafening.
        
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        June 4, 2026 11:32am
      - Ghost
        
        And you would be a liar if you did
        
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        June 4, 2026 11:58am
      - Jethrod
        
        Gerry would send you out of the House!
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:31pm
      - Ghost
        
        that’s the problem in parliament, someone can get up and lie their arse off and not be called a liar for it. Good thing in reality is liars can be exposed
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:50pm
  - Cassandra
    
    If you don’t think that Muslims carry out an inordinate amount of terrorism then you need to read more.
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:58am
    - Ghost
      
      I suggest you don’t invent things that I didn’t say
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:02am
      - Jethrod
        
        You may not have said things against Muslims, but your initial post in this thread sounds awfully like an apology.
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:33pm
      - Ghost
        
        No, that is just bullshit all it is doing is pointing out that people typically on this blog do what the poster claims David did
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:45pm
    - leoj
      
      No matter what, Islam remains incompatible with western culture.
      
      They insist on taking their shit ideas and beliefs to new countries.
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:01am
    - artemisia
      
      As often said, most Muslims are not terrorists. But most terrorists ……
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:39pm
- MCōs
  
  There was a mob of screaming nationalist thugs swarming round outside the home of the Sikh guy Vickrum Digwa, who stabbed Henry Novak.
  That sort of thing never happens here because we don’t have high profile political rabble rousers like Robinson and Farage egging people on.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:06am
  - cmm (semi-retired edition)
    
    It is only happening because, finally, the Poms have had enough – to the point where they will stop being polite shopkeepers.
    
    To blame this on Robinson and Farage is ridiculous.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:14am
    - David Garrett
      
      cmm: Absolutely…the other major difference is there are not enough Muslims (and even fewer Sikhs) here to cause problems. Yet.
      
      Based on the experience of western countries, the first tipping point when “trouble” starts is 2%. The Australians had already had problems prior to the massacre last December – and their Muslim population is about 3.2%. That usually doesn’t happen – again based on the experience of western European countries – until the population reaches 5%.
      
      We need to heed the warning from across the Tasman. I see no visible evidence that we are doing so.
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:41am
      - Notsofast
        
        Not when listening to the craven call by the Prime Minister to celebrate Ramadan, every bleeding year. Horrible.
        
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        June 4, 2026 10:59am
      - Paulus
        
        Did not many male children of the Helen Clark take in from the Tampa a go to Australia as New Zealanders?
        
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        June 4, 2026 11:23am
      - cmm (semi-retired edition)
        
        DG: I don’t think the “tipping point” number is necessarily a solid number. Nor should it be the % of an entire population.
        
        It really comes down to feeling emboldened and entitled. That depends on concentration as one factor.
        
        Concentration can be regional.
        eg. the Somali population of the Cedar-Riverside of Minneapolis is often called Little Mogadishu is over 50% Somali and similar, put only 1% of the state is.
        
        Closer to home, the Lakemba no-go area of Sydney is over 60% Muslim while only 4% of Australia total population is. In some parts of Melbourne Muslims make up over 60% of the population too.
        
        I think, perhaps, we still have a population that is too small to have such enclaves.
        
        Further, they must feel more emboldened when people don’t put up any resistance. And of course by international events.
        
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        June 4, 2026 12:01pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      The Poms should have had enough when the Manchester concert was bombed and their children were violently murdered.
      Every mosque should have been torched and the attendees banished.
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:27am
  - Yabster
    
    Did you make the same comments about the disgraceful BLM riots Mcos?
    
    Is being a Nationalist bad in your eyes?-why’s that? I love my country and am a proud Kiwi European, proud of my culture and my ancestors, – and screw anyone that thinks that”s a bad thing,
    
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    - rouppe
      
      That doesn’t make you a nationalist, I don’t think.
      
      A nationalist would be someone who says anyone not a kiwi European should get out.
      
      While “get out” hasn’t been clearly expressed yet by the Maori Party, I consider them Nationalists because they think they are the only ones with any decision rights, or connection, with this country.
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:52am
  - Ghost
    
    it’s a problem that we simply don’t care. teenager rapes multiple girls, home detention, where are the protests to tell the justice system and the politicians that’s not acceptable? where are the protests to tell them that the sentencing is a joke and it needs to be much stronger
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:23am
  - Notsofast
    
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali is an apostate ex Muslim, who has 24 hour security, married to Niall Ferguson. She physically embraces Tommy Robinson and passionately calls him a hero. Do you know something she doesn’t?
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:58am
  - kowtow
    
    Have a look at the video of Swarbrick genocidally screaming river to sea to the baying , largely ‘foreign’ looking mob who had just jeered David Clark off the stage ( then needed a police posse to get him out of the park) with the nodding approval of practically the whole green herd of MPs behind her.
    
    Context . Post Oct 7 atrocity Hamas hugfest in an Auckland park.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:48am
    - Steve Todd
      
      That was Phil Twyford.
      
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      June 4, 2026 1:11pm
      - kowtow
        
        Thank you very much for that and I acknowledge my mistake.
        
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        June 4, 2026 2:54pm
- cmm (semi-retired edition)
  
  I really don’t think that this is a valid argument.
  
  I cannot speak for DG (he can speak for himself), but I think one needs to not let relatively trivial details get in the way of the big issues.
  
  That this particular case was a Sikh rather than a Muslims is an inconsequential issue.
  
  While DG might have been incorrect when talked about Muslims in this context, let’s zoom out a bit and look at the issue slightly more generally: that of incompatible cultures and a general unwillingness of the Brits to address the elephants in the room.
  
  The problem has fist really shown its head with Muslims because they are far more numerous. There are far less Sikhs but that does not make them less problematic (on a per capita basis) in the long run.
  
  Nor should we just think this is a Brit issue. We are just a decade behind.
  
  One just needs to see all the problems we’ve had with Sikh drivers in the NZ trucking industry to see this.
  
  NZ already has sufficient cultural diversity problems dealing with Maori vs European culture. We do not need to add more flavor to the mix.
  
  Yes, we need to import Indian and such professionals (eg. medical staff). Most people of that level are extremely Westernised. But let’s tap the brakes on importing more Uber drivers.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:06am
  - MCōs
    
    I saw a programme on Sky History channel about the British Empire. This particular episode dealt with slavery until it was abolished by the British in 1833.
    This was replaced the following year by indentured labour – slavery by another name. This system was used to move indentured Indian laborers to all parts of the Empire, wherever cheap labour was useful.
    They took their customs and traditions with them in the same way whitey brought their way of doing things to NZ (& other countries)
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:30am
    - kowtow
      
      And……..
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:28am
      - Eastlander
        
        The implication is that we are morally obliged to endure whatever savagery Indians care to inflict on our society because of their racial grievances from 19th century. White liberals will merely imply this, while Indians will often say it outright.
        
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        June 4, 2026 1:31pm
      - MCōs
        
        If the British had confined themselves to Great Britain, not colonised other lands and been a dominant force in the trans Atlantic slave trade, followed by indentured labourers, they would be less prosperous country now
        They also wouldn’t have descendants from the people of former colonies living there including between 50-80k Kiwis
        
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        June 4, 2026 2:00pm
  - Eastlander
    
    Sikh separatists have murdered a prime minister, hijacked and blown up airliners for their ‘Khalistan’, and like as not they’ll do it again. I don’t give a damn what they do to each other, but having them here means we’re embroiled in their rotten little feud.
    
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    June 4, 2026 1:37pm
    - david
      
      Interesting that this discussion has revolved around the murderer being a Sikh rather than a native of India (or in the UK an “Asian) but also focuses on the term racism. If the slur was about his ethnicity it would be racism but the Sikhism would be irrelevant. If it was about his religion it would not be racism, it would be something else.
      I also hope this case puts to bed any discussion about Sikhs being permitted to carry ceremonial daggers in places where knives are not allowed or a Skean Dhu (or a Sgian Dubh) would be prohibited
      
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      June 4, 2026 4:08pm
- MCōs
  
  FYI
  Henry Nowak was killed on 3-December 2025 and Digwa was sentenced to 21yrs minimum on Monday for murder
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:14am
  - cmm (semi-retired edition)
    
    Ummm…. and… ???
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:23am
    - MCōs
      
      He wasn’t murdered last evening as mentioned above
      
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      June 4, 2026 10:31am
      - Steve Todd
        
        Nuks was referring to the thread [on Kiwiblog] “last evening” about the Nowak murder .
        
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        June 4, 2026 1:24pm
  - H. Upmann
    
    In NZ the trial and sentencing would not be scheduled until late 2027. The time it takes for justice to be made in this country is a crime in itself.
    
    The Pom’s justice system was certainly on the ball with this case.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:01am
    - MCōs
      
      Is that not a consequence of under resourcing in NZ?
      In one of NZs more interesting murders Arthur Thomas was arrested on 11-November 1970 and the first trial began on 9-February 1971. Three months later.
      Far too quickly and the defence hadn’t had time to properly prepare, especially considering what emerged later.
      
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      June 4, 2026 12:30pm
- imalwaysright
  
  Apparently the murderer’s mother and brother have been charged and tried, but unclear if the charges were murder.
  
  The UK can charge a group of people, under “Joint Enterprise” laws, with the same crime regardless of who actually did the deed.
  (We need it here for infant murderers)
  
  Here’s an example:
  
  https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2024/june/four-teenage-boys-convicted-of-murder-and-manslaughter-following-death-of-kennie-carter/
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:39am
  - MCōs
    
    The mother was convicted of a lesser crime for disposing of the knife.
    
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    June 4, 2026 12:35pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Thanks.
      I wonder why they weren’t charged as a group?
      
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      June 4, 2026 1:00pm
- Philview
  
  I had a looked at Elon Musk’s X thread on this topic and a lot of comments screaming where was his outrage over the “genocide in Gaza”. The left are out pushing their own agenda as well.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:47am
- Notsofast
  
  Yes, of course the old aphorism the exception proves the rule comes into play. Remember the 3 girls killer, where Islam was denied as a motivation until they found the doctrine in his possession.
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:52am
- kowtow
  
  Irrespective of which “minority” was involved , the facts still stand that the police in Britain are institutionally “racist” ……..against whites.
  
  The head of the Hampshire police force sorry service involved stated in 2022 that “being anti racist , ethical and inclusive is top of our agenda” . Olivia Pinkney, probably a DEI hire herself.
  
  But wait there’s more, the document that came from included ‘the murder of George Floyd was a pivotal moment for policing in the UK’
  
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  June 4, 2026 11:26am
imalwaysright

I’m wondering about Tova O’Brien’s suitability as an interviewer after her performance in front of Chris Penk and Kieran McAnulty on tv1 this morning.

Her bursting into manic laughter while uttering put downs was strange, to say the least.
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June 4, 2026 10:22am
- David Garrett
  
  Imaways: You watch TV 1? In the morning? You must be a retiree…
  
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  June 4, 2026 10:56am
  - RoboRob
    
    I’m not and I do 🙂
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:06am
    - pdm
      
      DG I am a retiree and our TV only comes on in the morning for major sports events.
      
      Otherwise 1pm most days when mrspdm takes control to watch Emmerdale and Coronation Street.
      
      We do watch 6pm TVNZ news.
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:58am
  - imalwaysright
    
    DG
    Pearls clutched.
    Perish the thought…
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:14am
  - Paulus
    
    I agree – I do not watch any TV until the UK Quiz programme before the 6pm RNZ News.
    
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    June 4, 2026 11:26am
    - David Garrett
      
      Paulus: Do you mean The Chase?? I very much enjoy that when I am at a motel or someone else’s house (Haven’t had broadcast TV out here for years)
      
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      June 4, 2026 11:57am
  - MCōs
    
    I’m post retirement, but I don’t watch Breakfast. Not because of the political content, but because whenever I give it a whirl it’s some magazine style stuff I don’t like.
    
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    June 4, 2026 12:43pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      Lots of advertising thinly disguised as content.
      
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      June 4, 2026 1:01pm
RoboRob

I see the the Fonterra lobbing story is now on to day three in the media..

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/597173/missing-climate-briefing-note-who-knew-what-and-when

Amazing how this story has lasted to long compared to say the Chris Hipkins staffer that was using footage from parliament to post offensive posts about the PM on social media.

I will say, NZ seems to have a problem with lobbying. We seem to think it is perfectly ok for unions, teachers, Iwi and environmental groups to lobby their hearts out. When unions and Iwi aren’t consulted the government is criticised for not getting stakeholder ‘feedback’.
But if any business or wealthy individual should attempt to influence the government that’s the end of democracy and corrupt. No wonder the businesses attempting to lobby the government are trying to keep it secret.

An also, Fuck you Hipkins. You are saying that doing this stuff through private email to avoid OIA is corrupt / stinks (It is bad) but you are the same guy that ran classes for Labour MPs teaching them how to avoid getting stuff OIAed.
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- Paulus
  
  Labour do not do Lobbying the Union Paymasters do it for them !
  
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  June 4, 2026 4:16pm
  - Jethrod
    
    It’s called striking.
    
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    June 4, 2026 4:40pm
Phronesis

Duncan Garner on some interesting responses to some clever OIA requests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSt4kgu_fE&t=2s

It would appear that Hipkins was lying about when he knew about the vaccine risk to children. Interestingly the meeting in question appears to have been scrubbed from every Labour minister in attendance official diary. Yet the MoH has provided an agenda and minutes of the meeting showing that it was chaired by Hipkins and that a decision was made to not make the known risks public.

The MSM must be making some hard decisions this week. Best to lance the boil now, 5 months out from the election, or risk it exploding when most inconvenient.
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- RoboRob
  
  The media just wont cover it. No hard decisions required.
  
  Oh and this is the same Hipkins taking shots at Luxon for putting stuff through private email to avoid OIAs. Pot kettle much?
  
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  June 4, 2026 2:29pm
Notsofast

From Graham Linehan’s series, ” that which never happens “, the relevance here is that female prison wardens in mens’ Mt Eden prison are required to do the physical genital inspections of those men who identify as female. I am not sure if any male prisoners are in female facilities in New Zealand, but you could bet it would be Green Party policy to require it on demand.

“The lawsuit centers on the terrifying actions of 28-year-old Andrea Balcer (born Andrew Balcer). In October 2016, at the age of 17, Balcer committed a horrific crime in Winthrop, Maine, stabbing both of his parents (Alice and Antonio Balcer) and the family’s chihuahua dog to death inside their family home. Balcer was convicted as an adult and sentenced in 2018 to serve 40 years in prison. Having transitioned to a female identity while incarcerated, corrections officials transferred this male double-murderer from the male population at the Maine State Prison to the female units at the Maine Correctional Center in Windham.

Under this housing arrangement, Balcer gained direct, unmonitored access to female prisoners, many of whom are serving sentences for non-violent offenses such as drug charges.”
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June 4, 2026 11:22am
Ross Bayer

There has been many comments on this blog and as usual I would not discuss what is being said with my family and friends, meanwhile:
The war in the Middle East continues
The bombings in Lebanon continue
The war in Ukraine continues
There is one common theme with these events each of which is capable of changing humanity forever and that is the funding of the aggressor comes from the same source.
The same source that has been carrying out destabilising events all across the globe over that last 50 years. Think WMD invasion as an example and the millions of lives lost and misery inflicted on innocent women and children
It is time for adults to stand up realise many untruths are considered to be fact and call out the country led by the worst leader in modern times before something happens from which we may never recover
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June 4, 2026 11:27am
- David George
  
  Ross: “the funding of the aggressor comes from the same source.
  The same source that has been carrying out destabilising events all across the globe”
  
  Go on then; what is this “source”?
  The missiles from Hezbollah, for example, are funded from the same source as Russia’s military adventures? Fascinating.
  
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  June 4, 2026 12:22pm
  - Don Beckett
    
    Ross mentions, “for the last 50 years”.
    He is obviously talking about Iran’s Ayatollahs & the
    Islamic Republic of Iran. And of course, Putin in Russia.
    
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    June 4, 2026 2:47pm
- Ghost
  
  Well, today the House of Representatives invoked the 1973 War Powers Resolution. I doubt it will pass the senate
  
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  June 4, 2026 12:39pm
- Sane Voice
  
  The worst leader in modern times?
  
  Is that Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot?
  
  What are the criteria for inclusion? Or is it just your hysterical TDS?
  
  Yes, implying Trump is the worst leader in modern times when comparing him to those 3 and many others is clearly symptomatic of TDS.
  
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  June 4, 2026 1:38pm
  - Ross Bayer
    
    Don, David, Sane,
    I was a strong supporter of DJT as he promised he would drain the swamp and end forever wars sadly one of my mistakes in life along with voting for a princess.
    However much of what is said today and confirmed by your comments is that people believe stuff which is simply not true.
    CNN is not a good source for news or geopolitics.
    Your comments are confirmation that leaders of countries can act in a way that is not excusable and you then blame the victims of their aggression, very sad and not what is expected of a grown up.
    Then we get on to attacking a world leader who has a genuine level of support across his country that is over 80% and yet somehow he is a bad person
    If we take a broader view all of the current leaders of the Western Democracies have very low levels of support by the citizens of their respective countries.
    These citizens do not support the war in Ukraine, the war against Iran or the bombing of Lebanon, Palestine or Syria.
    Yet you people are different you know better than citizens of the western democracies, your minority view is right, stuff rationale thinking people and support the CIA and its proxies
    
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    June 4, 2026 4:14pm
    - David George
      
      “attacking a world leader who has a genuine level of support across his country that is over 80%”
      Putin?
      Kim Jong Un?
      Xi Jinping?
      
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      June 4, 2026 5:03pm
      - Ross Bayer
        
        David,
        If you do not know the answer this is confirmation of too much time watching CNN
        
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        June 5, 2026 8:18am
    - Charlotte Wells
      
      You called Trump the worst leader in modern times.
      
      Yes or No?
      
      If yes I suggested there are a lot of leaders a lot worse.
      
      Do you truly believe Trump is worse than Stalin? Or Putin?
      
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      June 4, 2026 6:04pm
      - Ross Bayer
        
        Charlotte,
        Suggesting that Trump and Putin are somehow equal confirms that you have been watching CNN far too much.
        One of them has over 80% support from citizens of his country the other is a huge disappointment doing things he said he would never do on the campaign trail
        
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        June 5, 2026 8:17am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    Managing to beat out Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot as a leader in a 4 horse race isn’t something I’d be crowing about if I were you.
    
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    June 4, 2026 9:44pm
Bobba Fret

Quick action by the police. What’s the bet they were a Greens or TPM voter?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/arson-charge-laid-over-blaze-at-prime-minister-christopher-luxons-northpark-office/OZCXORVRKJGAXLCVMDOCQZJXZQ/
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June 4, 2026 11:33am
mogg

NZX listed Tem Emerging Markets Trust are up 103% on the calendar year, also just announced a
7.5 cts final dividend, no imputation. Happy days.
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June 4, 2026 11:37am
- rouppe
  
  Over the last five years they have consistently underperformed TWF except for the last wee bit.
  
  “As of June 2026, the trust’s portfolio is heavily weighted toward technology and major Asian economies”
  
  There’s a good chance this is flash in the pan.
  
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  June 4, 2026 2:20pm
  - mogg
    
    TEM is not TWF they are emerging markets. Taken up to date they are returning 103% as opposed to TWF 40%. TEM is selling at 10% discount to its holdings. The majority of knowledgeable commentators are predicting Asian economies as the future growth area, having held their units for more than 25yrs I know the risks, What is your reason for thinking they are any more ‘flash in the pan’ than other similar or even dissimilar listings.
    
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    June 4, 2026 3:26pm
imalwaysright

Here’s a good warning about the harm caused by having Data Centres in Ireland that are now consuming 21% of the nations electricity supply.

The NZ Government seems to look at the price of the computer gear in these leeches as some sort of addition to our GDP and a feather in our economic cap.

They are, literally, leeches.

Ireland’s data centre strain a ‘cautionary tale’ for rest of world, UN says – The Irish Times https://share.google/1pPLg7KTvhMct48Ks
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June 4, 2026 12:09pm
- Ghost
  
  throw into that their huge water consumption that is damaging town water supplies.
  
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  June 4, 2026 1:02pm
  - imalwaysright
    
    Somethings going on. Something smells.
    
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    June 4, 2026 1:23pm
- mogg
  
  NZ data centre leeches/specialist Infratil listed on the NZX is up 44% on the calendar year, fill yer boots.
  Investor only roadshow is 8th June at Public Trust Hall on Lambton Quay, good food and wine afterwards. ‘Be there or be square’.
  
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  June 4, 2026 1:51pm
Ghost

An interesting case in the USA where a youtuber has taken on a bricks and minifigs store for stealing a man’s collection. It currently sits with the youtuber facing multiple charges, hiding in Mexico, the local police force being called out for corruption, and the CEO and cofounder of Patreon getting a legal letter telling him to remove the videos. He then himself releases a video telling bricks and minifigs to stuff it, and if they don’t like it they can sue Patreon

https://kotaku.com/lego-star-wars-reckless-ben-youtube-bricks-minifigs-patreon-mormon-mafia-2000701942
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June 4, 2026 12:36pm
David Garrett

Our justice system is just so fucked:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360987223/cold-case-killer-jailed-seven-years-fatal-act-thuggery-harmless-man

Seven years – out in four – for a totally unprovoked fatal attack. In the US he’d have got at least 20 in some liberal state; double that in some others.
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- Ghost
  
  I enjoy watching the USA criminal youtube channels. Drunk driver kills someone and they are in jail for a few decades. here, not even worth them going to court
  
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  June 4, 2026 1:44pm
  - NZer In Exile
    
    Countries with wonderfully low crime rates tend to hit serious crims with a ton of bricks.
    
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    June 4, 2026 10:46pm
- Phronesis
  
  What has always intrigued me about the justice system is that it is so remarkably dependent on geography. No one blinks an eye if someone gets 40 years in one place for a crime that they would have got 4 years for in another place. All this talk of manifestly unjust sentencing and the like apparently has something to do with where a crime was committed and not much to do with the crime itself. Certainly any claim to the punishment fitting the crime is clearly absurd.
  
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  June 4, 2026 1:55pm
Sane Voice

It will be ignored just as it has been ignored by every president since it was introduced during the Nixon administration.

That includes the lefty wet dream Obama and the best Biden ever.

When Trump ignores it he is just following a long tradition of Democrat presidents.
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June 4, 2026 1:45pm
Ghost

Some little shit damages the property and people want to abuse and threaten the victims of this little shit

A cafe is facing a public backlash, including threats of arson and ram raids, after posting images of a young child scratching her name into a leather couch.

Article
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June 4, 2026 3:48pm
Ghost

That was quick, PM’s arsonist caught

Emergency services were called to the Millhouse Drive property in Northpark at around 9.50am.

This morning, police said a 24-year-old man had been arrested and charged with arson.

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June 4, 2026 5:34pm
Jack5

How well are Maori – and New Zealand – known overseas? This short video may be an indication:

https://youtube.com/shorts/9s-BseZVSsc?si=ATIrDdj78Fg_KBLi
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June 4, 2026 5:50pm
- Charlotte Wells
  
  Not really fair though.
  
  Watch some of the other videos from this guy. The absolute cluelessness of the people in relation to world geography and other questions is so depressing.
  
  For example, one of the shorts was a globe with only national borders. A country was highlighted in red and they were asked to name the country. Among the various answers were Jordan, Russia, France, and Transylvania. The country in question was Ukraine.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9dZ9quhBjBE
  
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  June 4, 2026 6:15pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360987955/lawn-mowing-company-forced-migrant-worker-pay-44k-premium-job-and-visa
Another example of NZ’s current policy of allowing certain groups to come to NZ who then abuse their fellow-men and abuse our standards.
I predict that in the near future we will say “enough is enough”.
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