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Yvette

Indoctrinating the Military

• Tū is the god of war. He causes skirmishes, eats warriors and orchestrates destruction. He is “a fierce and powerful deity”. So says the New Zealand Army, which describes its troops as Ngāti Tūmatauenga – the people of Tū …

• Most of the debate focused on the orders as an extension of the Army’s bicultural policy, like expecting senior leaders to be proficient in te reo Māori, to have “detailed knowledge of kaupapa Māori methodologies and frameworks” and to be “always up to date on contemporary Te Tiriti issues”.

How does this work in the event that Maori activism causes a riot outside Parliament perhaps?
Is it the supposition that deployed soldier individuals will make choices based on “detailed knowledge of kaupapa Māori methodologies and frameworks” and being “always up to date on contemporary Te Tiriti issues,” or will they carry out duties as assigned by commanders probably with those instructions passed on also from a higher level?

Will knowledge that Luxon believes Maori ceded sovereignty to the Crown, that Hipkins thinks they didn’t, and the late Maori King said “The Treaty is written. That is it,” help military individuals decide to restrain those hurling paving stones at the police, or join them?

Perhaps take a seemingly silly parallel –
Will AI drones which are purchased or developed by the military be programmed on an individual level with “detailed data of kaupapa Māori methodologies and frameworks” and kept “always up to date on contemporary Te Tiriti data” and who will write code for them?
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June 13, 2026 8:05am
Cassandra

There was a discussion a couple of days ago about rehab farms after the War. There was a system for allocating land to soldiers returning from battle.

David Garrett said that it was racist. It was certainly flawed but in my opinion inadvertently.

It’s well documented. Te Ara for one. Many applicants were excluded, Maori and European. If an applicant had an interest in land already ie Maori land (and in the 1940s Maoris were mostly still living in their tribal areas) or in a family farm, then they didn’t qualify. Applicants had to have a minimum education level and farming aptitude which also excluded many Maoris. But it also excluded lots of Europeans too.

There’s also a Waitangi Tribunal report which states that the scheme was run by fascists from Act and the National Party or words to that effect. It was actually run by public servants under a Labour government. About 4,000 blocks were allocated, usually 140 acres for a dairy farm.
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June 13, 2026 8:10am
- CJames
  
  Another thing to remember is the farm scheme started after WW1 – there. the farmers had to break their own land in and got very little support from the government. Many of those farming areas were not suitable and people left them with little or no possessions.The Mangapurua was rehab farms.
  
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  June 13, 2026 8:25am
Tomtoddy

One of the most consequential decisions in recent decades with huge impact on the lives of New Zealanders has been almost wholly ignored by the MSM. And continuing to be ignored by government departments and local bodies.

It is the decision by the IPCC to dub the extreme RCP 8.5 scenario as now, “implausible”. After 30 years of trying to convince the world that it was necessary to evaluate the effects of runaway warming and create unrealistic expectations the IPCC has literally swallowed an enormous rat and said “we were wrong”.

Why the most consequential decision for New Zealand? Because government departments and all local bodies decided the extreme RCP8.5 scenario was a “business as usual” case and have spent millions- literally – building wild plans on issues like sea level rise an rain events that have already negatively affected land values, added insurance cost, limited choices for thousands.

RCP8.5 was always a crazy, impossible outcome. It meant world populations exceeding 14 billion when even the UN says 11 billion is tops,. It meant using 5 to 7 times the amount of coal being mined and burnt. It meant no technological changes delivering benefits in the relevant area of combustion. It was fantasy.

Yet taxpayers and ratepayers continue to bear the burden of biased ideological bureaucrats and ignorant councillors to the tune of millions and potentially hundreds of millions if it is allowed to continue.
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June 13, 2026 8:16am
- Yvette
  
  Tomtoddy – … taxpayers and ratepayers continue to bear the burden of biased ideological bureaucrats and ignorant councillors to the tune of millions and potentially hundreds of millions if it is allowed to continue.
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  Treasury estimates it could cost up to $5 billion to pay for the overseas carbon credits New Zealand needs to honour its Paris Agreement commitments.
  An additional $1.6 billion may also be needed to pay for credits to meet a subsequent commitment, due by 2035.
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/597859/government-facing-up-to-5-billion-bill-over-carbon-credits-treasury-reveals
  
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  June 13, 2026 8:24am

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