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Simon

15 % youth (under 25 yo) unemployment.

If you know anyone looking for a job:

Eg Trade Depot looking forklift operator.

“Proficiency in Hindi or Punjabi is essential for effective communication with team members and clients”

Got to speak the right language though.

Increasing requirement to speak Hindi or Punjabi.

15% youth unemployment looks like compulsory Maori should have been compulsory Hindi.

15% youth unemployment and National opening the workforce to India to lower wages and conditions. What a disgrace.
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June 27, 2026 8:28am
- Prince
  
  Link please. And any other examples of this ‘increasing requirement’ ?
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:46am
  - Ghost
    
    https://www.chrislynchmedia.com/news-items/trade-depot-apologises-after-hindi-or-punjabi-requirement-in-job-ad-sparks-criticism/
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:40am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      Call centres in predominantly English speaking countries quite often seek people who can speak various non-English languages as well as English. Why? Because many immigrants can’t speak English enough to have a coherent conversation in English with a call centre serf. Why? Because they are not required to as a condition of getting PR/Citizenship.
      
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      June 27, 2026 3:25pm
- pdm
  
  Doesn’t English work anymore?
  
  Or are some staff (not only the Hindi and Sikh staff) too sensitive to cope with good old basic English speech?
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:53am
  - igm
    
    Try Noel Leeming, seems Indians are preferred employees.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:02am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, and Noel lemming are a shocking company to deal with, how they survive god knows
      
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      June 27, 2026 11:53am
- Notsofast
  
  A serious question though, how would New Zealand, or more particularly Auckland look without Indians in the workforce?
  Do they cause trouble?
  In my experience 100% reliable and polite.
  Their IT contribution in this world is irreplaceable unless I am missing something. It’s not just gas stations and supermarkets.
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:54am
  - kowtow
    
    No group is 100%.
    
    We’ve witnessed murders , potential election fraud , migrant exploitation , IRD scandals ,inter faith /communal violence , driver license corruption etc
    
    All in a relatively short space of time.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:13am
  - Ginger Cat
    
    I could identify one self-employed Indian who is neither competent nor polite.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:42am
  - Damocles11
    
    Righto, and rather than incentivise our own people, particularly our young people, to gain employment – and either get off or not go on a benefit – how about we just lazily import people from overseas instead? After all, the interlopers keep their heads down and don’t do anything of a trouble-making nature such as ask for a payrise.
    This country is in thrall to vested interests who benefit from the low wage economy and mass immigration, while all the costs are picked up by the New Zealand taxpayer. And not all the costs are in the form of benefit payments and corporate welfare: there’s also the societal cost of shutting our young people out of the job market and the property market. Demonstrably, what we are currently doing is not working. Greedy and amoral vested interests are just another cadre of looters feeding on the carcass of a nation in decline.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:36am
  - surfing
    
    “Their IT contribution in this world is irreplaceable ”
    
    They’ve reduced IT salaries — IT is effectively a wage slave job now – the amount you earn for the responsibilities is pretty bad — nurses probably earn more than a lot of IT workers these days.
    
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    June 27, 2026 5:05pm
- Scott
  
  Agree with you Simon. We need to look after our own workers first. Why we seem intent on mass immigration, from India or anywhere else, is beyond me?
  
  Right now in our town every second shop and cafe seems to be owned by Indian people who employ Indian workers. How is that in the interest of New Zealanders? Shouldn’t we look after our own people first?
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:58am
  - Gary Benner
    
    Sadly the workforce needs conscientious, reliable, and as NotSofast says, “polite” employees.
    
    Our young, and in particular Maori youth, have been educated on a diet of empowerment, entitlement, and egotism. Hardly a satisfactory basis for getting, or actually wanting to go out and get a job. Especially when there of easy to get benefits, and a political party spouting policies that everyone can get a wage whether they work or not.
    
    There is a rot in this society, and it’s starting to show.
    
    With rotten wood, you first need to cut the rot out and then apply some sort of preservative to ensure it deos not come back. The same needs to happen to society.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:20am
    - Notsofast
      
      I have never been abused by an Indian.
      I have never been abused by a Maori.
      One of the above is true.
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:26am
      - mogg
        
        Try telling that to Henry Nowaks family, he was handcuffed and arrested, while his Seikh killer was treated with greatest respect, not handcuffed and escorted to police station, then given a hot meal to suit his requirements. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yzl5xl3gjo
        
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        June 27, 2026 2:13pm
    - R
      
      ‘….needs to happen……’ and happen quickly!
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:26am
    - Scott
      
      Gary, while I do agree we need to correct some thing about our entitlement mind set, I refuse to believe that we are not capable of running our country without importing a million foreigners?
      Our ancestors built this country from scratch in 50 years. Roads, railway tracks, trams, shops, hospitals, shipping, ports, exports, farming. Surely we can maintain it and build on it without giving our country away to foreigners?
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:26am
      - Ghost
        
        we are a nation built on successive waves of migration.
        
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        June 27, 2026 12:08pm
      - Gary Benner
        
        Scott, of course that is possible, but there has to be a happy medium. Integration is the key, and that has to occur primarily on a cultural level.
        
        Our “Kiwi culture” is based on Christian values – not that everyone goes to Church every Sunday and professes that Jesus is their saviour – more we accept certain life values, and I guess roughly the Ten Commandments are a starting point for that. We have ways of interacting, respect for each other, and particularly the opposite sex.
        
        Having spent a lot of time overseas living and working in different cultures, you become aware that we have (or one cold say, “had”) here a very open, safe, and successful society. But sadly that has started to change as open travel and communications have caused us to merge in ways with the rest of the world, many parts of which have cultures and political systems that are quite frankly, stone age.
        
        If people are coming here to comnvert us into “their way of life” then basically I don’t want them here. If they retain our basic cultural values, and integrate in work and community, then fine. But I do not wish to see enclaves of society appear that then as a group start to revert us back to paths we have already trodden in our societal evolution.
        
        The UK is suffering from the bad decision to have free importation of cultures that have not integrated, and are now sending their worst into that country. I was there earlier this year, and quite frankly in the larger cities it is now unrecognisable.
        
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        June 27, 2026 12:31pm
      - Scott
        
        Gary, thanks for your reply. Totally agree with your comments. 😊
        
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        June 27, 2026 12:41pm
      - rjay
        
        “Our ancestors” at the time were recent immigrants. Since then we have lost that mojo.
        
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        June 27, 2026 1:01pm
    - Damocles11
      
      Your comments represent a clique of older people who look down their nose at the young from a fortress of untaxed capital gains & comfort. People who think they are entitled to immense gains because “we worked hard, not like these young people today.” Hard work should result in fair pay for a days work, not windfall gains as a result of central bank (ultra-low interest rates, QE) and government (mass immigration) policies. We have a chronic generational divide now, and it is worse than it has ever been. The older New Zealanders actually seem to hate the young, which is very sad. But from my point of view, when governments have always prioritised older asset owners and vested interests over the young, is it any wonder that they are increasingly embracing socialism? The socialists are only too willing to take in those that feel themselves to be spurned and rejected.
      p.s. don’t shoot the messenger.
      
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      June 27, 2026 11:45am
      - NothingLeft
        
        As a well off, high earning middle aged person this is the truth.
        
        We are destroying NZs future with older NZers hoarding millions in over-priced housing assets having benefited from 3 decades of low interest rate boosting house prices to ridiculous levels – after so many got them cheap due to high interest rates and inflation in 70’s-80’s. effectively boomers got wealth from silent generation due to high inflation, and now from their kids due to low inflation.
        
        Add to that restrictive land availability, building regulations and council cash-grabs targeting those building homes that make it too expensive to build. (my parents paid council $50 for a housing permit, today it costs hundreds of thousands in various regulatory imposts ‘reserve contributions’ and approvals in places like Auckland)
        
        Young people are frequently having to spend more than 60% of their income on houses, leaving nothing to allow them to start families – or at best starting so late they don’t get to have as many as desired.
        
        We desperately need policy measures to correct this and save NZ’s future by giving youngsters half a chance at being able to afford housing and kids – at minimum halving house prices (High land taxes with lowered income taxes would be a good approach – boosts young adults disposable income and reduces house prices, ie tilts economic field in favor of workers over asset holders), but existing mostly older home owners are going to vote out any govt that tries to do that.
        
        Gerontocracy is bad, sacrificing your children’s future for your own comfort and luxuries is evil.
        
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        June 27, 2026 1:14pm
      - wsk12345
        
        Interesting. I’m a Gen X so in between but I’ve never heard a “boomer” “hate” a millennial or Zer. But Twitter is full of youngsters hating on boomers.
        
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        June 27, 2026 1:42pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        As a late Boomer I’ve owned a house for 20 years and it’s not worth in dollar terms double what I paid for it. Factor in inflation plus maintenance (the scaffolding and painting bills made my eyes water) and it’s not what you’d call a good investment.
        
        Not that this matters. It’s been the happy home where we brought up our family, which is what we wanted.
        
        But to be accused of creaming it through unearned capital gains cannot pass without comment: for me, it’s just not so.
        
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        June 27, 2026 3:11pm
  - Notsofast
    
    Compliance with NZ employment and tax law is not optional, I wonder if this is the lingering suspicion that they find a cunning work around. Absent that, they must drive productivity gains according to free market principles. You can bet Londonistan would bank that alternative to rampant Islamification driven by Keir Starmer and the ruling party.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:22am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He is talking utter bullshit, he has seen some advert that has had an apology to the public and decided Nats are behind this. It was a private companies advertisement.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:56am
- Sacha
  
  Don’t forklift operators have to be certified?
  I’ve always fancied dashing about a factory storeroom piling stuff up –
  probably not a lot of openings for old women though.
  Seriously, I buy quite a bit from Trade Depot, and get good service. If they have a good team of Punjabi/Hindu speakers, I have no objection, any more than I would have if they spoke Maori, or English.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:05am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Yes, you must have a certificate as a lice which must be reset every 3 years, and there is also a one of test that gives you a P endorsement.
    
    One thing we have found, it is very hard to get experienced forklift drivers, we have been trying to get an experienced driver since the start of the year, you have to teach them from scratch.
    
    You NZers see driving a forklift as below them, it’s the same attitude with their first home. They want the mansion straight away
    
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    June 27, 2026 12:01pm
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      The internet is made of memes about getting forklift certified. It’s not just kiwis that think the over regulation is a bit ridiculous.
      
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      June 27, 2026 3:39pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Good luck trying to go anywhere else in the world and not need to be compliant to drive a forklift. Take Aussie for a start, it takes almost a week to qualify to get certified, and it cost heaps to pay for that licence
        
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        June 27, 2026 8:08pm
      - Ghost
        
        You back G? how was your holiday
        
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        June 27, 2026 8:25pm
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      An experienced competent forklift driver will cost an employer at least $80,000 per year.
      
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      June 27, 2026 4:39pm
- artemisia
  
  Trade Depot says they made a mistake, should have said the languages are an advantage not a requirement. Withdrew that ad from Seek.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:35am
- imalwaysright
  
  Various Governments have ensured that our youth are unemployable by making them unaffordable.
  
  Remove the minimum wage and cap the dole to 3 months.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:38am
- Jethrod
  
  He is just supporting his high list ranking in the Labour party
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:48am
- BananaLlama
  
  NZ should not be a WINZ department for India.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:07am
  - Steve Otto N Shore
    
    It gets votes—————
    
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    June 27, 2026 1:17pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The very fact that Nats have no opened the door to Indian immigration suggests you are at it again. Indian imagination was thrown open under Helen Clark in 2001.
  
  If you are talking about the 1700 skilled work visa, then you will realise it was already in place for 700 it adds 1000 and after 3 years they must return home and can not renew their visa. And fss as milt can not accompany them.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:51am
- Paulus
  
  Namaste !
  
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  June 27, 2026 2:58pm
Cassandra

Three Democratic Socialists won New York Congressional primaries this week and will presumably enter the House of Representatives in November. What are the DSA’s policies?

The DSA calls for sweeping political and economic changes:

1 full public financing for campaigns
2 the abolition of the Electoral College
3 public ownership of the largest corporations and essential industries to ensure democratic control and accountability
4 strict regulations on investment properties.
5 defund the Department of War
6 close overseas bases
7 end all economic sanctions including those on Iran, Cuba, and Russia.
8 universal amnesty for illegal immigrants
9 ending “restrictions on . . . marriage” ie legalising polygamy.

I wouldn’t go as far as saying that they make the NZ Greens look sane but it’s certainly a set of way out policies.
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June 27, 2026 8:39am
- David George
  
  Welcome to the Islamo communist caliphate of Mamdanistan.
  
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  June 27, 2026 8:51am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Coming here to a neighbourhood near you soon.
    
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    June 27, 2026 8:58am
  - Notsofast
    
    Nicely and very accurately posited DG.
    
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    June 27, 2026 9:59am
- mike
  
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  Would make the US closer to the more advanced liberal democracies.
  I assume the list also includes other good things too.
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:12am
  - Pope Punctilious II
    
    “More advanced” liberal democracies aren’t bothered by polygamy or child brides, eh milky?
    
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    June 27, 2026 9:20am
  - David George
    
    Yes Mike, the list also includes other “good things”
    ” Zohran Mamdani, a Shia activist pretending to be a politician, is proudly promoting Ashura in Manhattan.
    It is an annual festival of mourning, rage, and revenge. It commemorates the day Shia’s founding saint, Imam Hussein, was massacred by Sunni Muslims in Karbala. To this day, many Shias hold Sunnis collectively responsible for that crime.
    
    Now this ancient sectarian hatred is being openly celebrated in the streets of New York.
    
    This is not diversity.
    This is not cultural enrichment.
    This is bringing one of the most violent and enduring conflicts in human history, the Sunni-Shia blood war, and planting it right in the middle of Manhattan.”
    https://x.com/MosabHasanYOSEF/status/2070586124901245062
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:01am
    - kowtow
      
      To use their rhetoric ; it is colonial occupation.
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:15am
    - mike
      
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      Cool story bro. Now do Orange Order parades and Fireworks Night.
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:36am
      - Charlotte Wells
        
        WTF has fireworks night got to do with that?
        
        In the immortal words of the great [Mod – take personal abuse elsewhere]
        
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        June 27, 2026 3:03pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Western nations are being flooded with protestant jihadists from Northern Ireland? People attending fireworks night routinely severe heads, stab people and/or blow people up intentionally?
        
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        June 27, 2026 3:31pm
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    Advanced liberal democracies that are rapidly collapsing, those ones?
    
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    June 27, 2026 3:00pm
- artemisia
  
  A quite long and wide ranging opinion piece on similar in California with reference to tax progressivity in the OECD – California, here we go
  
  New Zealand could / should be interested in references in the item to William Voegeli’s book Never Enough: America’s Limitless Welfare State.We are heading in the same direction.
  
  https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/06/california-here-we-go.php
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:05am
- Dougal10
  
  So the Democrats are moving further left in NY in other news water is wet.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:04am
- virtualmark
  
  Yep.
  
  The Democratic Party in the US spans the whole spectrum of our New Zealand political system. No surprise that they have their own (in-house) version of the Green Party.
  
  That said, I can’t see this small faction being able to actually force through these policies. They’re loud, tolerated, but largely ignored. Much like the Green Party here.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:40am
AitchW

Sounds like they and the Greens are singing from the same song sheet. I’m surprised that they have no batshit crazy gender policies.
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June 27, 2026 8:44am
- kowtow
  
  They’ve got be careful with the batshit gender stuff . Very offputting to their more cough cough radical/activist base.
  
  That’s why there are now so many more “independent” MPs in Britain , having broken away from the so called mainstream.
  
  The real danger facing the west from all this enriching, multicultural diversity equity and inclusion is the Balkanisation of what were once relatively stable , peaceful and cohesive societies into what will be very ugly , warring sectarian factions.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:20am
NeverMindTheBollocks

More evidence that transgenders make bad choices – whether because of the drugs or because they are disturbed people, who can say?

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/crime-and-justice/625822/nelson-mechanic-gets-home-detention-for-shooting-colleague-s-cars
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June 27, 2026 9:00am
Scott

All is not well in woke world. The Pride woke people are not in agreement with their not so woke allies, the Muslims of Iran and Egypt :

“The Iranian and Egyptian soccer federations have urged FIFA to strip any “Pride Match” displays and rainbow symbols from Friday’s World Cup match in Seattle.
We believe FIFA should take into account the views and concerns of the participating teams when considering matters related to the match environment and stadium presentation,” the Iranians said in a statement.
Similarly, the Egyptian federation objected to “the holding of any activities related to supporting homosexuality.”
In a letter to the FIFA secretary general, the Egyptians clarified that “they completely refuse these activities, which directly contradicts with the cultural, religious and social values in the region, especially in the Arabic and Islamic communities.”

https://nypost.com/2026/06/25/sports/iran-egypt-outraged-over-pride-match-designation-for-world-cup-faceoff-call-on-fifa-to-scrap-lgbtq-affiliations/?utm_source=chrome&utm_campaign=android_nyp

Although the pride people and the Muslim people are allies in the sense of their desire to overthrow western civilisation, they have nothing else in common.
If the Muslims take over a country then they will immediately shut down all things gay.

I’m not sure how this will play out? I suspect the woke people will give in to the Muslim people? 🤔
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June 27, 2026 9:00am
- mike
  
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  Scott proudly aligns himself with Islam.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:29am
  - Don Beckett
    
    What a stupid comment.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:50am
    - Northshoredoc
      
      Well he is on record as saying that gay marriage is an abomination and a sin.
      
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      June 27, 2026 2:42pm
      - NZer In Exile
        
        Pretty sure both the Jewish Torah and Christian collection of texts deemed to be the New Testament, instruct believers not to do homosexual acts. Many religions share this. Doesn’t mean those religions are generally “aligned” though. Pretty obvious really.
        
        If you do one little thing that Nazis did (say like use toilet paper), are you aligned with them?
        
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        June 27, 2026 3:39pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        …….and he’s right.
        
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        June 27, 2026 4:06pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      DB you’ll get used to it.
      
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      June 27, 2026 3:32pm
- Dougal10
  
  Do they have a hatred of gays because it used to be prevalent , and they are trying to lower the practice. I have often wondered if wearing a full head covering was a way of hiding same sex partners.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:08am
- Charlotte Wells
  
  “shut down all things gay”.
  
  Hangings, beheading, being thrown off tall buildings, and other assorted slaughters certainly do shut down things gay.
  
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  June 27, 2026 3:06pm
Andrew Worth

Anyone following the Great Reflecting Pool saga?

There may have been minor acts of vandalism along the edges, but the main issue is the delamination caused by damage to the paint from vast quantities of hydrogen peroxide (used in paint strippers) by the park service to kill the algae.
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June 27, 2026 9:23am
- mike
  
  So the ‘vandalism’ alleged by You Know Who is just another lie? Colour me shocked.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:03am
  - rouppe
    
    No. There has been vandalism. With video evidence.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360998120/reflecting-pool-liner-was-cut-sharp-knife-or-razor-na
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:13am
    - Andrew Worth
      
      That video shows her putting her hand in the water, she may have removed a piece of the lose paint. It’s not clear evidence of vandalism.
      The separate claim by Trump of a 300 foot cut in the liner/paint down the middle of the pool (which the article doesn’t expain could have had nothing to do with that video) has not been backed up with any evidence.
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:20am
      - rouppe
        
        The sudden movement at the end suggests to me that something was ripped off as opposed to simply removed.
        
        But you’re entitled to your view.
        
        I agree the 300 foot rip is unrelated to this.
        
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        June 27, 2026 2:48pm
- Andrew Worth
  
  The ozone bubbler was being used simultaneously with the use of the hydrogen peroxide. These two chemicals react to form hydroxyl radicals through the Peroxone process. Hydroxyl radicals are orders of magnitude more powerful than peroxide at damaging paint.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:06am
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    Keep it up, you’ll eventually convince yourself on how right you are.
    
    However, those of us in the real world can see the damage being done.
    
    Odd isn’t it, now the pool has been fenced off their is no more damage.
    
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    June 27, 2026 3:09pm
    - Andrew Worth
      
      If you’re able to provide any evidence to refute my points go right ahead.
      
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      June 27, 2026 5:38pm
Yvette

Bird Flew
When Michael Baker’s bird flu arrives in New Zealand by albatross returning from already infested Antartica or from Western Australia, will the Chatham’s 445 black robin, kiwi, takahe, Peter Jackson’s moa as soon as they hatch, and staple diet Kentucky Fried Chicken all be toast?
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June 27, 2026 9:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  More likely fricassee.
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Looks like the virulent strain is most likely to be picked up by wild birds of lakes, shore and sea as well as domestic poultry.
  
  https://www.mpi.govt.nz/biosecurity/pest-and-disease-threats-to-new-zealand/animal-disease-threats-to-new-zealand/high-pathogenicity-avian-influenza/about-avian-influenza-and-the-risk-to-nz
  
  (I am keeping a watchful eye on my mallards)
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:35am
  - pdm
    
    Mallards – being plural?
    
    Brave of you to have more than one Mallard if Trevor is any indication of overall Mallard Behaviour.
    
    Are they like Trevor and Muscovy’s and crap everywhere and on anyone?
    
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    June 27, 2026 9:57am
    - Yvette
      
      pdm – “… and crap everywhere and on anyone?”
      
      That’s why they have to play loud music and run the sprinklers
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:32am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      They invite themselves onto the property and they do deposit gallons of poo into the pond…and elsewhere, but that’s life…it has shitty moments.
      
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      June 27, 2026 10:41am
- MCōs
  
  Good place to find out is google
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:46am
- imalwaysright
  
  Can they not lock up the chickens and breed from the survivors.
  They would have immunity.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:45am
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    The horror will be how much of our native birdlife is exterminated.
    
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    June 27, 2026 3:11pm
SpencerArnold

If the Public Service is supposed to be politically neutral, how come the PSA of NZ is campaigning to unseat this government? How do we manage the essential contradictions in these positions?
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June 27, 2026 9:40am
- Ian
  
  The PSA is a voluntary group which Public Service members can join. Their members can collectively support whoever they like. The PSA is not the Public Service. All the same it shows that members of the PSA are collectively left minded, which means that most Public Servants are of the same ilk, but should be politically neutral.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:30am
- mike
  
  The PSA is not part of the public service. I trust this clarification helps.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:31am
  - Graeme Hall
    
    The PSA Union may not be part of the public service but it sure seems connected to it: By an unbreakable umbilical cord connected to the taxpayers’ pockets.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Service_Association
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:07am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    That is a fair enough distinction. However for a public servant with rational economic views, and there are some, joining such an organisation is untenable.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:29am
    - mike
      
      No one with ‘rational economic views’ could benefit from collective bargaining?
      
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      June 27, 2026 1:20pm
  - Inandout
    
    The PSA claims to have 90,000 members and a great percentage are local and government workers.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:32am
    - KKNZ2025
      
      Public servant average pay is over $100k pa
      Conservative eg assume pay mid range $23.20 fortnight in union fees
      $23.20x26x900000 = $54million pa
      
      https://www.psa.org.nz/resources/2025-membership-fee-increase
      
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      June 27, 2026 1:33pm
- Swifty
  
  Our public service isn’t neutral nor has it been for a long time.
  
  This fact should be made clear as we smash it down to a proper size and make it known that it’s the left’s fault that this had to happen.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:42am
Ruahine

If this bird Flu could knock off a few million of those horrible Canada Geese that infest the countryside it could / would be a good thing.
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June 27, 2026 9:48am
- lifesgood
  
  You should see Auckland’s water front, it’s absolutely infested with black swans. This is a new phenomenom, just over the last couple of years. I swear they breed in their thousands overnight. I’m pretty sure they will be polluting the water and making it unfit for swimming.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:15am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Back in the 1940’s, the Tauranga harbour became home to a large population of black swans, to the extent that the harbour was being polluted by swan poo. Since the late 1940’s & continuing to this day, every couple of yearsor so, swan drives ( people with shotguns on power boats) spend a few days going around the harbour & culling the swans. I believe it is done in conjunction with the Council & DoC.
    
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    June 27, 2026 11:56am
  - Paulus
    
    Around Tauranga it is very shitty Canada Geese.
    They are considered a pest but the Council have no responsibility for the mess and numbers here.
    The can be shot as are a legal pest- but not in town of course where they are.
    
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    June 27, 2026 3:05pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      Yes, they are a recent problem – probably only for the last 40 odd years. Black swans are approaching a 100 year nuisance.
      
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      June 27, 2026 4:09pm
NK

I note a bit of positive interest in the Opportunity Party’s land tax.

The first major policy idea to discuss from these clowns, and it’s a new tax.

It’s exceptionally easy to argue for a new tax on something – it takes about 30 seconds to think of one. It’s much more difficult to impose it, especially this one.

Considering it will almost certainly never be implemented, I’m not concerned about it, and neither am I concerned about this new loony party of chardonnay socialists.
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June 27, 2026 9:52am
- AitchW
  
  I am concerned that it may attract some our more envious voters resulting in the party hitting the 5% mark ensuring in an overhang.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:02am
  - pdm
    
    Aitch if they get 5% Party Vote and no electorates (or even 1 or 2 electorates) there is no overhang.
    
    If like the Maori Party in 2023 they get 6 seats and only 3% of the Party Vote then you have an overhang.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:44am
  - Damocles11
    
    Sometimes those who are portrayed as envious are people who in actual fact feeling disenfranchised and unheard. The ‘rockstar economy’ was built on the nation-destroying foundations of a Property Ponzi Scheme and mass immigration, rather than productivity and innovation. The young are not going away, increasingly they are refusing to ‘play the game’ because they feel – which much justification – that the game was rigged by central banks and governments between 2008 and 2022. If we won’t change course then the best we can hope for is managed decline and the increasingly infrequent electoral success of the centre-right parties.
    
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    June 27, 2026 12:00pm
- Cassandra
  
  Except the probability that OP will go with Labour and the Greens. If their combined vote adds up to 50% then some of their policies will be enacted.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:04am
  - imalwaysright
    
    NZ is in grave danger of being destroyed by the political spite of the Left.
    
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    June 27, 2026 10:47am
    - Ian Boag
      
      So get out there and work on an anti-campaign.
      
      Or you might think it is more helpful to all of us if you complain on KB – where the voters you need to flip will read your explanation about how they are dumb – and change their votes. Hmmm ….
      
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      June 27, 2026 5:21pm
      - RichardX
        
        I think “keyboard warrior” is what you’re describing Ian.
        
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        June 27, 2026 6:18pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        The word after “keyboard” could be – using cockney rhyming slang – something that rhymes with “tanker” …. 🙂
        
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        June 27, 2026 7:00pm
    - Ghost
      
      No, I think the greatest risk to NZ is people who do not get out and fight for what they believe in. A lot of people will say things online but never get off their butt to do anything about it.
      
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      June 27, 2026 7:00pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        Welcome to the fearless contributors on Kiwiblog
        
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        June 27, 2026 7:02pm
      - greybeard
        
        A lot of people say things online and DO get out and support their beliefs: why do you automatically assume that posting comments on a blog means that the posters sit back and do nothing ?
        What do YOU do, Ghost ?
        
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        June 27, 2026 7:30pm
      - Ghost
        
        In my area of interest I do a lot, always have.
        
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        June 27, 2026 7:40pm
- Notsofast
  
  We left a lot on the table for land bankers from far climes, as well as local fortunate inheritors. Winston Churchill described more than a century ago, fascinating read from 1909:
  
  “It is quite true that land monopoly is not the only monopoly which exists, but it is by far the greatest of monopolies – it is a perpetual monopoly, and it is the mother of all other forms of monopoly. It is quite true that unearned increments in land are not the only form of unearned or undeserved profit which individuals are able to secure; but it is the principal form of unearned increment which is derived from processes which are not merely not beneficial, but which are positively detrimental to the general public.”
  
  https://www.cooperative-individualism.org/churchill-winston_mother-of-all-monopolies-1909.htm
  
  There are untold billions involved, which should be grasped in a way that does not render farming non viable.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:08am
- Damocles11
  
  The young feel themselves to be spurned, rejected, and above all they are bewildered. Governments prioritise everybody in our society over them, including people who are right now sitting in Bangalore or Beijing and will be invited here to take some fairly rudimentary jobs in our anaemic economy. The National party is out of touch. Mr Luxon has signed a trade deal with India to facilitate a never-ending onslaught of mass immigration. And whereas a young New Zealander may ‘play the field’ with regards to their voting intentions, new Indian migrants may feel beholden to the National party and vote accordingly. Anyway, we are increasingly losing our own young people to the likes of the Greens and TOP. The political leaders of these parties are young & appeal to young. Pointless frowning about it and grumbling.
  
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  June 27, 2026 11:54am
  - Fender
    
    Not sure how you can speak of the young with all this supposed fact. My impression with a large extended family of 25-40 year olds, partners and their friends and the whole team of people I work with at Bunnings is nothing like you suggest. Firstly they are not political in any way, shape or form, they give it next to zero thought. Saying they feel like the banks of 2008-2022 screwed them is laughable,spurned and rejected? seriously?,they have zero understanding of any of it now let alone the past, they don’t read news and blogs, don’t know anything about Indian trade deals or immigration numbers so have zero views on those. They live life in the moment, Your comments on land and house values and how the young have a bad deal has some truth but only because you know and understand history, to them you may as well compare it to 50s America with drive-ins, and everyone owning v8 cars. I also don’t see your constant view that it was all our generation that has screwed this country and are trying to blame the young for not working harder. Was NZ not the land of honey,the bread basket of England and had one of the highest standards of living where farmers were all rich and we all benefited with the flow on. Things have been going downhill long before the rockstar economy kicked off.
    
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    June 27, 2026 6:12pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  One new tax?
  
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  June 27, 2026 12:07pm
Boy Geoff

Has anyone heard anything from Emmy Rakete lately, or have they been completely drowned out by Chloe and Marama and Qiulae and Hana-Rawhiti and Tania Waikato and Shaneel…?
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June 27, 2026 9:57am
- pdm
  
  Speaking of people not heard from.
  
  Chuck Bird came to mind yesterday.
  
  Is he still with us, banned or just drifted away from this forum?
  
  Does anyone know.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:46am
igm

Try Noel Leeming, seems Indians are preferred employees.
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June 27, 2026 10:06am
- Damocles11
  
  Highly skilled roles are they? Are Noel Leemings and Trade Depot operating as hospitals for part of the day, with these Indians as skilled surgeons? What a joke our economy is. It’s a dead dog outside of the primary sector, although they keep delivering electric shocks to the Property Ponzi Scheme in the hopes of reanimating it.
  
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  June 27, 2026 12:03pm
- Paulus
  
  Not during the week, but appears yes at weekends.
  I do not go then as a result of an experience.
  
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  June 27, 2026 3:08pm
Cassandra

John McLean: In short, Opportunity is a bunch of acolyte students from the alchemy school of economics.

Money and wealth magically materialize, with little truly productive effort.

In reality, Opportunity is deeply devoted to the “deindustrialization” dogma of Western Leftism. Shrink the pie, with cultural elites eating the lion’s share, and radically redistribute wealth away from productive people to try and placate the general populace.

Plus it is deeply committed to The Treaty – of course.
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June 27, 2026 10:10am
- pdm
  
  Cass – not to overlook the people at the Top of TOP.
  Iain Lees-Galloway
  Toni Grace (fiancee of Chris Hipkins)
  James Shaw
  Kayla Kingdon-Bebb (co writer of He Puapua apparently)
  
  I suspect there will be others of their ilk that we do not know about yet.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:50am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Kingdom-Bedd is Shaw’s partner
    
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    June 27, 2026 12:09pm
    - Gin and Sonic
      
      That will be news to James Shaw and his lawyer wife Annabel.
      
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      June 27, 2026 11:56pm
  - Ghost
    
    do you have a link that shows James Shaw and Toni are part of TOP
    
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    June 27, 2026 12:45pm
    - pdm
      
      Try this one from our insignificant little blog as you like to call it Ghostie.
      https://nominister.wordpress.com/2026/06/26/the-depth-of-the-opportunities-party/
      
      See No Minister can be a source of vital information.
      
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      June 27, 2026 3:59pm
      - Ghost
        
        What vital information, you are pushing a lie, as usual, your dead blog does not verify anything it publishes. You constantly push fake stories. This is why people should avoid the dead blog, it’s about as truthful as Cameron, who has a history of lying and making up shit to get clicks.
        
        Btw, in case you are too stupid to realise it, Annabel Shaw, James’s wife, is a lawyer.
        
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        June 28, 2026 1:04am
- Damocles11
  
  They are students you say? And what do the parties of the centre-right have to offer to our young people? Mass immigration, a duopoly, a banking cartel, and a housing crisis not appealing to young people? How about the cost of living, council rate rises, and spiralling insurance costs? The establishment governs on behalf of vested interests: why is anyone surprised when young voters turn to parties appealing to young voters.
  
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  June 27, 2026 12:07pm
- Quail
  
  Cassandra.
  Assume it is their version of the Treaty,not the real document!
  
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  June 27, 2026 9:12pm
rouppe

In what should be informative evidence against “super rich” and “mega company” taxes, even the Socialist Gavin Newsom is going to vote against california’s “billionaire tax”.

In a state that has already lost prominent business figures such as Elon Musk, Google co-founder Larry Page and Oracle founder Larry Ellison, Newsom is not the only one warning that the billionaire tax could worsen California’s ongoing exodus.
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June 27, 2026 10:17am
- Cassandra
  
  Newsom is not a socialist. Mainstream Democrat. Changeable principles, a Marxist of the Groucho type.
  
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  June 27, 2026 12:40pm
- Handyman
  
  Newsom is not against the tax on principle. He is just opposed to it being only in California because taxpayers have the freedom to leave.
  
  His policy statement said he wants the tax at the federal level so people cannot avoid it.
  
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  June 27, 2026 1:48pm
Boy Geoff

I wonder if Aotearoa’s msm will scrutinize TOP’s candidate list as much as they’re likely to scrutinize NZ First’s list when it’s released?

So far the only thing you can really say about TOP’s candidates is that they all seem to be consummate Chardonnay socialists.
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June 27, 2026 10:19am
- Ian Boag
  
  Waiting for DPF’s incisive analysis … Will be read (bated bresth stuff) by KB followers who were never going to vote Green anyway 🙂
  
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  June 27, 2026 5:36pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360997389/builder-left-unbuilt-homes-and-35m-debt-pursuing-him-not-economic
Yet another example of when the IRD should have intervened at the start, when taxes were in arrears.
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June 27, 2026 10:23am
- Ian
  
  I’m in business, though not so much now. If my GST return was slightly overdue, mainly if I have been overseas on holiday, I would always get an IRD reminder. Surely the same thing would have happened to this builder and if any IRD reminder does not produce a result, there should be an immediate follow up from IRD. Maybe their systems are not up to scratch…
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:36am
Yvette

Maori musical chairs
Hana-Rāwhiti Maipi-Clarke addressing the hīkoi crowd on the steps of Pāremata after going viral worldwide for littering on the floor and leading a haka in the House the previous week …
She called for the Māori in the crowd to switch to the Māori electoral roll.
“If every single Māori person registered on the Māori roll, we would have 20 automatic Māori seats in Parliament.”
Currently, there are only seven Māori seats in the House of Representatives. [1]

Has TIME Magazine printed any correction that Special Maori Seats may be set at seven until 2032?

” … if a proposed amendment bill linked to the census changes passes as expected later this year, the number of Māori electorates will be set at seven until at least 2032.” [2]
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[1] https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/11/19/i-ripped-that-in-half-and-chucked-it-away-hana-rawhiti-delivers-speech-after-world-shaking-haka/
[2] https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/10-06-2026/the-case-for-maori-switching-to-the-general-roll-this-election
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June 27, 2026 10:36am
- Boy Geoff
  
  Do you ever spare a thought for the enormous stress there must be on (less than middle-aged) female politicians of the left, to maintain and continually refresh their brand for the most optimal marketing comms?
  
  Credit to Jacinda, I guess, for her trailblazing efforts in this field.
  
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  June 27, 2026 10:54am
imalwaysright

Swarbrick’s attempt to throw New Zealand under the bus has failed as the European Union has rejected her complaint that we aren’t meeting climate targets.

She is a disgrace.

Michael Laws calls her treacherous:
https://youtu.be/olsDBHRCjp4?si=k6IN2eYAPnACWvom
(5 mins)
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June 27, 2026 11:10am
Jack5

Hot Stuff, Sinead!

Stuff owner Sinead Boucher complains in a Stuff interview today about big tech companies such as Google “sucking money out of the NZ economy.”

She says:

““New Zealand media companies definitely contribute more to the tax pool whereas the big tech companies are just sucking the marrow out of our economy and sending it all offshore.”

Is this talking about contribution to the tax pool net of subsidies?

Trumping the Boucher complaint, however, is news from the US.

President Trump is threatening to impose 100 per cent tariffs on Europeans if they follow through on plans to tax US tech companies, i.e. if the Europeans impose a digital services tax on companies including Meta, owner of Facebook and Whats App.

Hit NZ exports to protect NZ news media? C’mon. Our exports to USA must total around $15 billion a year.

Incidentally, Stuff describes Boucher as “Stuff Group owner”. Stuff Digital, which is the internet-based company relevant to what Boucher is talking about in the interview, is owned 50:50 by Boucher and Trade Me Ltd. Stuff Digital owns the Stuff website, the social media platform Neighbourly, and ThreeNews.

Stuff newspapers are grouped under “Masthead Publishing Ltd.” However, on the Companies Register this is a reserved name rather than a registered company. We can attribute 100 per cent ownership of the Stuff newspapers, which include the Christchurch Press and the Evening Post, to Boucher. Boucher owns Stuff Ltd, which I guess is “the group” less TradeMe’s stake of Stuff Digital. She holds this through her company Keneperu Holdings.

TradeMe’s NZ owner, Titan Parent New Zealand Ltd (its stake is 99.86 per cent), reported sales of $375 million for the 2025 June financial year, with an operating profit of $243,658,000 but a bottom-line loss of $155,039,000 compared with a loss of $2,359,000 the previous year. This company’s owner is Titan Agreggator LP in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven.
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June 27, 2026 11:21am
- Jack5
  
  The main “hit” in TradeMe’s bottom-line profit fall for the 2025 June years came from cutting the asset value of the general marketplace section.
  
  Its goodwill has been written down by $132.8 million. Goodwill of other key sections — motors, property and jobs — was not written down.
  
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  June 27, 2026 12:40pm
- Paul
  
  Ms Boucher is either lying or is deeply ignorant about the Internet. Specifically, the article quotes her: “They’re scraping and extracting the value out of everybody’s content. We can’t control it, they don’t have permission to do it…”
  
  That is untrue. If she inserts a robots.txt file on the Stuff website, or a noindex tag on each web page that she wants to protect, then Google and other major web scrapers will immediately stop indexing Stuff’s content.
  
  Google indexes Stuff’s content because Stuff allows them to do so. Some news organisations have actually blocked Google and the other index sites, and have discovered that their web traffic drops through the floor. So Google’s scraping provides significant value to Stuff, although perhaps not enough to keep it alive.
  
  And, of course, one is not surprised that Stuff has not allowed comments on this article…..
  
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  June 27, 2026 1:21pm
Ghost

on a positive, the terrible deal that iran and usa made, probably won’t matter anyway

Iran’s Revolutionary Guards say they have attacked US sites in the Gulf region in retaliation to American strikes in Iran, according to state television.

Article
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June 27, 2026 12:13pm
- NZer In Exile
  
  Fill up now. Brace yourselves.
  
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  June 27, 2026 1:08pm
  - Master Mariner
    
    Unfortunately so,
    As we celebrated International Day of the Seafarer 25 June, Here is the Stark reality,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfV8K2Q-nOE
    Trapped in a War Zone: The Reality for Seafarers & Attack on MV Ever Lovely
    Latest Transits,
    https://insights.windward.ai/
    
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    June 27, 2026 2:18pm
Rusty

Any predictions for the All Whites against Belgium?

NZ 2-1
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June 27, 2026 12:30pm
- mike
  
  Belgium 4-1.
  
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  June 27, 2026 1:23pm
  - Boy Geoff
    
    I don’t see the Warriors beating the Dolphins, either.
    
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    June 27, 2026 1:49pm
    - Charlotte Wells
      
      I hope you’re wrong.
      
      Whatever the result I am sure the Warriors will play their hearts out and it will be a cracker game to watch.
      
      Kick-off at 5 pm local.
      
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      June 27, 2026 3:18pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Optimist
    
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    June 27, 2026 6:19pm
  - greybeard
    
    Close Mike ! We never had a chance, but still I am proud that they progressed so far.
    Italy never got there !
    
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    June 27, 2026 7:11pm
Swifty

The excellent (New Zealand-born) Katherine Birbalsingh saying what needs to be said about the crisis within Western Civilisation:

https://x.com/chalavyishmael/status/2070595359634559235/video/1?s=46
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June 27, 2026 2:05pm
- Charlotte Wells
  
  Youtube so you can read comments;
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqj_SnTIhNY&t=88s
  
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  June 27, 2026 3:21pm
  - Swifty
    
    Cool, thanks.
    
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    June 27, 2026 4:54pm
Swifty

Labour’s lies are now coming thick and fast:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/628387/election-a-choice-between-two-futures-labour-s-edmonds

They, together with the Greens and the Racist Party, will be the end of us.
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June 27, 2026 2:46pm
Steve Todd

Winston Churchill visits President Trump at the White House in 1940.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkcsKuMKooo [1:32].
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June 27, 2026 3:42pm
Steve Todd

Algae – a parody of “Alfie” by Dionne Warwick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFkYBSpKPRM [2:27].

The comments are good, too.
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June 27, 2026 4:08pm
- Steve Todd
  
  Relevant background: an explanation as to how Trump turns a lie into ‘truth’ – and why MAGA believes it.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7YO_sSjEaY [16:49].
  
  Just 939 days to go, Kiwibloggers.
  
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  June 27, 2026 5:05pm
Steve Todd

Treason With The Trumps – a parody of “Seasons In The Sun” by Terry Jacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDP6YXRd48 [2:35].
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June 27, 2026 4:21pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360998923/government-commits-86m-build-new-plymouths-first-city-marae-more-150-years

This government has lost the plot.
And if something isn’t done soon they will lose the election.
We didn’t vote in National and ACT for this sort of crap.

If maori want a new marae they should pay for it themselves, they have had billions in Waitangi settlements, use those.
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June 27, 2026 4:59pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  Yes that’s it for me, my support for National is finished. If there has been no marae for 150 years that tells me it’s been of no significance to Māori until Honky funded it.
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  June 27, 2026 6:24pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    So you are going hard left then? Don’t you dear try and say NZF are not part of this, the money comes from NZFs regional development fund ffs
    
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    June 27, 2026 8:19pm
    - Hugh Jarse
      
      That’s dare not dear. I am quite capable of working out where the money comes from myself thanks and don’t jump to assumptions about where my vote may go.
      
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      June 27, 2026 9:30pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Another gift from Shane Jones’ Regional Development Fund, this time $8.6m.
  
  At least the general taxpayers are not up for all of the marae construction fund.
  
  “The total project cost is estimated at $17.8m, with the remaining funding coming from Ngāti Te Whiti, local government, the Toi Foundation and community supporters”.
  
  It would be nice to know how much Te Whiti are contributing to their new home, though.
  
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  June 27, 2026 6:25pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh well, you could vote Labour, greens, TPM and TOP good luck.
  
  And before you suggest NZF. It’s them behind the hand outs for marae, ho back to
  The so called koha by NZF at Waitangi, they gave an extra 10 million over and above for marae
  
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  June 27, 2026 8:17pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-mayor-councillors-to-visit-china-for-yantai-sister-city-milestone/RC7KN2Q2KNFSXKARXVLQMW5YGQ/

Trougher Mahe Drysdale who is about to increase Tauranga rates by 7.9% is showing no signs of fiscal responsibility as he and his team head over to China on a junket to a so called sister city.

This is the biggest scam imposed on ratepayers– he pleads for more money then takes a trip like this?

What a piece of work!
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June 27, 2026 5:00pm
Hugh Jarse

And there clearly is not shortage of money .
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June 27, 2026 6:31pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Carmel Sepuloni brought her family into politics during her speech at the Labour Party conference today, saying that her two sisters have suffered from National cancelling the Pay Equity Act.

This would be the same Carmel Sepuloni who complained about family members being wrongly dragged into the public spotlight when her mother was convicted of benefit fraud, yes?

No one does hypocrisy like the Left.
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