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BarryB

Well after Netball NZ has done everything possible to ruin themselves, the sport, Dame Noeline and the performance at the Commonwealth games the ability of Dame Noeline has come through on top. This included the (New?) Chairman coming out a week before the games competition started telling the squad that there was no money and no jobs when they returned to NZ. Although I doubt she will I do it, I hope Dame Noeline tells them to shove their job and take what I am sure will be a seriously good offer from the number she already has and will get.
It will be interesting to find out who the person or persons are who started this who train wreck by complaining about not feeling ‘safe’. I suspect that Elite Sport NZ are behind the whole thing. At the time Netball NZ couldn’t run water downhill and the shambles that followed bear a similarity to what happened to Rugby Australia when a player said something that upset a few people. The woman who lead that attempt to bankrupt Rugby Australia over that has been in charge of Elite Sport NZ for some time.
Netball Australia had similar troubles some years ago when Gina Rinehart offered to get them out of the financial shit, but one player came out and said something stupid and Rinehart said that ‘Yes you do have the right of free speech but I dont have to financially support what you said’ and promptly withdrew the offer of a lot of money.

New Zealand sports administrations in general seem to like seeing how close they can get to financial disaster but not actually going over the edge. Rowing and Cycling have been outstanding examples. Boxing is currently in trouble and no doubt there are more trying to screw things up.
There are two important examples currently underway. Cricket has the T20 situation to work out (I predict they will mess it up) and Rugby has the Silverlake ‘thing’ that seems to have gone nowhere and the long term challenge of head injuries. At the moment it seems like their plan for these is ‘ignore them and they might go away’.

I saw a book for sale recently – it is called “Surrounded by idiots” by a Thomas Erikson. I think he could write another one called ‘Girls can do anything including the ability to say stupid things’
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August 3, 2026 8:02am
- EssenX
  
  Netball was already a dying sport in NZ as many girls flock to basketball, soccer, etc. However, you raise a broader point about governance. Looking at the Jennings’ post the other day about FENZ, the post about InternetNZ, the clean up Minister Brown is underaking at the Medical Council and the state of some public schools it’s very clear that we are appointing people to boards, sporting or otherwise, who are clearly unfit for the task.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:19am
  - Red Rooster
    
    You have forgotten the women’s hockey debacle. They had there best coach in the world and the third string goalkeeper complained about the coach (probably because he explained why she was the third string) and Hockey NZ went to water and announced an enquiry. England hockey heard about it and made Hager an offer and he was gone! No way was he going to stay and put up with that nonsense. Fast forward and compare English women’s hockey and NZ women’s hockey and we have never recovered from it!
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:28am
  - R
    
    Are you surprised! Look at the caliber of people who are regularly elected to Local Bodies and the mess they make. DEI …. Dubious, Extreme, and Incompetent seem to be the criteria for appointments these days
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:55am
- RoboRob
  
  Netball NZ have set an all time high for totally inept leadership. They seem to be doing everything they can to destroy their sport. From dumping Noeline and having the CEO leave the country so the whole thing was left in limbo, to the cunning strategy of announcing well in advance that there might be no competition next year so please go and find work in Australia. Muppets.
  
  The woke virus has spread right though sport and this is the outcome. The rugby NZ board no longer requires rugby experience but does have strict rules about the number of woman that must be on the board.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:31am
- Colville
  
  Best thing NZ Netball did to secure the gold was arrange for Jamacia to play the game of their lives and beat Australia in the semi.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:46am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yes, unfortunately for Jamaica, beating Australia was their final. They couldn’t do it again in the actual final.
    Well done the Silver Ferns.
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:51am
- greybeard
  
  Interesting that you appear to side with Noelene Taurua : she was dropped by Netball NZ after one or more of the senior players complained about something. As nobody to this day has ever said exactly what that “something” was we can only speculate: it certainly must have been serious enough to warrant her suspension. The players concerned have never been named. The whole episode has been classified an “employment issue” and has thereby been conveniently shoved to one side. Taurua has subsequently been beatified.
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:09am
  - RoboRob
    
    I think you have the wrong end of the stick. From what I understand, a survey was given out to the players for feedback on coaching. Some players flagged the Noeline could be a bit rough some times. Not unexpected. This wasn’t a reaction to a serious official complaint. This was a reaction to a feedback survey.
    
    Without discussion with Noeline she was dumped, with no replacement and no process. The CEO even left the country at the time.
    
    Eventually Netball NZ realised they had screwed up the process and pretty much apologised. Noeline has a non disclosure agreement preventing her from elaborating.
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:40am
    - imalwaysright
      
      Don’t tell me, did the players feel “unsafe” because Noeline wasn’t telling them how brilliant they are every five minutes?
      Apparently some weren’t happy about long practice sessions and N telling them they were carrying too much weight.
      
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      August 3, 2026 12:06pm
      - Im Right
        
        I believe your correct imalwaysright (nice name!), only takes one player to complain and it’s an enquiry.
        Reminds me of the parents who sue schools/colleges in the USA when their precious princess doesn’t get picked for the cheerleading team.
        What does annoy me in the Netball fiasco is that the player(s) who complained were not named public ally…they should have been.
        
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        August 3, 2026 4:29pm
    - rouppe
      
      I wonder if those players are still in the squad…
      
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      August 3, 2026 1:32pm
      - R
        
        If there was any credible truth in their complaints, their personal integrity wouldn’t allow them to participate. But then, dollars can usually override integrity.
        
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        August 3, 2026 7:36pm
  - R
    
    Beautified justly!
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:58am
  - Southern Raider
    
    It seemed all she did was give a couple of players a serve that they weren’t fit enough and they got all offended.
    
    Same happened with our Hockey team.
    
    Our administrators need to support our Coaches and stop jumping to the easily offended overrated players.
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:54pm
- Nobby2
  
  BB, When you say “The woman who lead that attempt to bankrupt Rugby Australia over that has been in charge of Elite Sport NZ for some time ” I assume you are referring to Raelene Castle, who as a leading sports administrator is a disaster. The high level organisations and the people at the top running them, involved in managing sports in NZ seem to have forgotten that they are there to help sports and sports people succeed and are acting like the FIFA boss Gianni Infantino and treating their organisations as their personal fifedom in which they can do what they like and have no respect for the people who are actually playing and coaching the sport and producing the income that pays their highly inflated salaries.
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:13am
  - Quail
    
    For another example,
    What is the true story about Razor Robertson being sacked from the ALL Blacks?
    Seems to be similarities, but no one is talking!
    
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    August 3, 2026 7:43pm
artemisia

ACT and ‘reasonable force’ etc for teachers. Sorry ACT, you have it all wrong. The ‘little shits’ are not the unacceptable levels of classroom disruption problem as the OECD named New Zealand. It’s access to the curriculum.

According to Steve McCracken, Secondary Principals’ Council Chair interviewed on NewstalkZB by Ryan Bridge after the 5 am news this morning. A short interview, and Mr McCracken referred 7 times to the cause being “access to the curriculum”. I counted, sad life I know.

He also referred to the policy as gaslighting. Since gaslighting is effectively an accusation of abuse, it is really not acceptable to just lay the term on the table and move on. Perhaps Mr McCracken is busy getting his abuse examples lined up for his next media interview.

I get he is supporting teachers, and he may be correct to refer to ‘systemic issues’, but the word salad he produced this morning was frankly not a convincing argument given teaching the curriculum is teachers’ day job.

ACT policy at below link. There is more to it than the click bait headline ‘reasonable force’.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/actnz/pages/35810/attachments/original/1785477221/Class_Disruption_04.pdf?1785477221
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August 3, 2026 8:08am
- imalwaysright
  
  Some secondary schools seem to be lawless zones.
  Drug use, violence, and sexual assault, are the worst examples of what can be swept under the carpet.
  A good Principal is essential
  
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  August 3, 2026 8:31am
  - Mr Nobody NZ
    
    Are classrooms really any worse today than they were in the past?
    
    I still have a knife a fellow 4th former threatened me with in 1991 that I ‘removed’ from his possession.
    
    My Father recalls watching a kid be dragged along a work bench before being chucked out a window during a student disagreement in the mid 60’s.
    
    And I recall watching a teacher throw a chair at a student in Standard 3 or 4 (’88 or’ 89) because the kid was being a shit.
    
    Classrooms have always been a petri dish of violence and disorder.
    
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    August 3, 2026 12:07pm
    - imalwaysright
      
      “Classrooms have always been a petri dish of violence and disorder.”
      
      That’s clearly not true.
      
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      August 3, 2026 1:17pm
      - Mr Nobody NZ
        
        2 points:
        1) I presume you are ignoring the amount of:
        a) teacher-on-student violence, such as sexual abuse, including the systemic cases of abuse that occurred at places like Dilworth School and Tauranga Boys college (I’ve provided a summary below incase you have forgotten)
        b) Until the ban on corporal punishment in 1989 caning was routine and described by one former student as “Frequent and left red welts and bruising which could last for days”.
        
        2) If you look at the suspension, standdown and explusion statistics which are most commonly occur because incidents involving violence you can see other than the “Covid Years” the numbers have remained at fairly similar rates since 2000.
        https://bitl.to/5yCa
        
        —————–
        Tauranga Boys’ College – Pinky Green (1970s–1980s)
        A teacher known for over‑caning boys was later revealed to have sexually assaulted at least one student and propositioned others.
        
        Abuse occurred over several years, with victims describing grooming and exploitation.
        
        Complaints were mishandled; the teacher was allowed to resign quietly, and victims only received apologies decades later.
        
        Dilworth School Inquiry (1950–2005)
        A major independent inquiry uncovered:
        
        Extensive sexual abuse, physical violence, and bullying over half a century.
        
        Students who reported abuse were called liars and caned.
        
        Staff failed to report abuse to police; 12 staff and associates were later arrested.
        
        The inquiry described the findings as a “catalogue of damage and injustice.”
        
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        August 3, 2026 7:31pm
- RoboRob
  
  Teachers union = Labour party
  
  This policy simply clarifies and enhances teachers ability to handle problem children. The union is treating it like teachers are now being forced to use physical force. The argument against this is stupid and if the teachers union really were working for their members they would support it as it gives teachers a degree of protection if they have to touch a child.
  
  The fools in breakfast TV spend plenty of time picking the policy apart after Seymour had left, I cant remember they last time they did that with any left wing policy. The concept that Seymour is a failure because he could define ‘reasonable force’ was just stupid. They know full well that will be defined by legal teams.
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:13am
- Master Mariner
  
  DEI. The E Should stand for Equity.
  Bring back the Male teachers.
  In addition bring back rules to allow the family unit to florish.
  Thats the elephant in the room.
  Otherwise everything is just piss and wind.
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:48am
  - OlderChas
    
    After Peter Ellis was shafted – why would any male want to go anywhere near a teaching/child supervision job?
    
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    August 3, 2026 5:40pm
- sungsamning
  
  It sounds like a good first step. The kids are still mostly in charge though. And they know their ‘rights’.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:21am
- greybeard
  
  I heard that interview this morning, McCracken was terrible. I think he was on NewstalkZB a week or so ago, can’t remember who with, may have been Andrew Dickens. He was rubbished by the listeners on that occasion as well.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:56am
- rouppe
  
  I wonder what “access to the curriculum” means. Because surely it is the teachers responsibility to deliver the curriculum to the students.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:34pm
KKNZ2025

Helen Clark thinks NZ should be run by the lanyard class (PMC – Professional Managerial Class) without those pesky voters changing horses with elections

“Instead, she supports strengthening Parliament itself, including more powerful select committees and independent institutions, like the Commerce Commission, Infrastructure Commission, and Climate Change Commission.

“Empower these independent institutions which have integrity and let them get on with the job that the politicians now find difficult.”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/community/868407/helen-clark-nz-can-t-afford-another-three-years-of-short-term-policies
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August 3, 2026 8:19am
- Swifty
  
  “Empower these independent institutions which have integrity and let them get on with the job…”
  
  The institutions which are now completely dominated and controlled by the left.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:13am
  - R
    
    ‘by the left’…….and generally fully FEMINISED. A major part of the problem.
    
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    August 3, 2026 12:03pm
- pdm
  
  KKetc
  
  I think to some extent that will happen automatically IF – and it is a big IF:
  1. The public service is reduced as planned.
  2. The number of Ministers os reduced to 20 as ACT wants to happen.
  3. Maybe in time the number of MP’s will reduce to say 100.
  
  It will take an Electoral cycle or 3 to happen as I suspect there will be huge resistance.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:17am
- rouppe
  
  It’s arguable that these institutions have integrity.
  
  In any case, they are each “single issue” commissions. If we gave the climate commission free rein for example, we would be impoverished within a decade as agriculture was stripped, fuel became so expensive only climate commission members could afford it and air travel had to be approved by them before you could fly.
  
  Ruinous for the country, but exceptional performance from the climate commission.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:40am
- Nobby2
  
  KKNZ, I can’t understand why the NZ news media keep going to Helen Clark for her opinion on just about anything. She resigned from NZ politics 17 years ago so her opinions are now irrelevant and I would think are unwanted by a large number of New Zealander’s.
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:22am
- R
  
  NZ can’t afford, ever again, a LABOUR lead government of any stripe.
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:04pm
  - Paulus
    
    But it appears that the feminists who now run New Zealand as will be the leaders of the next Labour Government back to Ardern days which they loved.
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:03pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  It was Helen who started the politicisation of the New Zealand public service during her 1999-2007 regime. A good policy with Helen’s twitterings is to do the exact opposite of what she suggests because her suggestions won’t be good for New Zealand’s democracy.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:26pm
- Gussy
  
  Blair & Brown did this to the UK.
  Quangos (some 400 odd), not elected MPs, set the agenda.
  Makes effective change almost impossible.
  
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  August 3, 2026 5:47pm
pdm

What is going on with Martin (Martyn) Bradbury and The Daily Blog?
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/breaking-free-speech-issue-the-daily-blog-has-secretly-been-taken-to-court-and-im-facing-6months-in-prison-we-cant-tell-you-who-how-why-or-what/

Will the Free Speech Union help?
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August 3, 2026 8:22am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Let’s hope not, he’s been vocal in demonizing the free speech union.
  If he’s innocent I hope he gets off whatever it is, but he’s said some very dodgey things over the years and is often blinded by his polarity and doesn’t appear to realize his trivialization of some things like violence when it’s the left doing or joking about it.
  No idea what he’s been pulled up on here.
  
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  August 3, 2026 8:47am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I couldn’t find any clues in the post he has put up today… just a rehash of his (poor) introduction speech at the Keith Locke debate.
  
  https://thedailyblog.co.nz/why-i-am-willing-to-go-to-prison-tomorrow-for-free-speech/
  
  I wonder what his 4 censored blogs were about?
  
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  August 3, 2026 8:58am
  - pdm
    
    Who insisted on the Censorship?
    
    Who will be waiting for the big expose at 8pm Tuesday?
    
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    August 3, 2026 9:00am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Who will be waiting for the opportunity to contribute money to his give-a-little account?
      Me, me, me//
      
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      August 3, 2026 9:09am
      - David Garrett
        
        Gravel: Accidental downtick…fat fingers/phone
        
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        August 3, 2026 9:15am
  - David Garrett
    
    Maggy: The man writes like a child…and I note he gives no details of where and exactly when his court appearance is…I think this is a beat up by Martin/Martyn.
    
    I can think of no charge that forbids a person telling others what exactly the charge is…perhaps FES or someone more knowledgeable on criminal law than me can enlighten us.
    
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    August 3, 2026 9:11am
    - Im Right
      
      It’s a ruse, something dramatic to get traffic to his dwindling blog DG
      He has moved to podcasts mainly, paid for by Waatea News (Tamahere – maori party propaganda podcasts, every guest on any panel has to have one from the maori party movement)
      Martyn has a tainted blog, dwindling viewership and subscriptions.
      This is a red flag non story, but bet your bottom dollar it will be written about by him as the crime of the century.
      
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      August 3, 2026 9:17am
    - Local Miller
      
      My immediate thought was the same. Surely he could have said who was taking him to court at least. I was wondering if this was just a push for attention to try get his readership up. He got one extra hit from me that he’d not normally have got, although I was only on his blog for about 10 seconds.
      
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      August 3, 2026 9:30am
    - MCōs
      
      FYI
      Martyn
      
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      August 3, 2026 5:14pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Good thing I had finished my weet-bix when he said – apparently seriously – that “millions and millions of people are watching this”… legend in his own mind. Utterly delusional.
    
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    August 3, 2026 9:21am
  - rouppe
    
    Same. It certainly wasn’t that debate speech.
    
    Putting the legal matter aside, I note he said:
    
    Our desire as a movement to protect minorities without power from feral and oppressive insults and harassment
    
    So he’s all for free speech until it affects his “protected” minorities.
    
    Which means he’s not actually supporting free speech. Just his speech.
    
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    August 3, 2026 9:44am
    - Im Right
      
      I agree Rouppe
      He once lambasted the standard for banning posts/posters who did not align with the Labour song sheet in their posts.
      Then his blog moved to a new server/company and the purge was enacted, many (*myself included) were denied access to his blog, seems like everyone in the left who pretend to champion free speech, eventually they crumble down to the usual: ‘free speech is only allowed if I agree with it’
      *Not sour grapes, I posted on TDB, as well as TS, with links and facts against whatever narrative they were running, pesky facts and linked proof is not the done thing in an echo chamber!
      PS
      While I’m at it…Martyn is vehemently against capitalism, yet last time I was at his blog, the amount of advertising popping up on every post/thread would choke a horse…what a capitalist he is lol
      
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      August 3, 2026 11:30am
  - Nobby2
    
    Maggy, Who cares ?
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:27am
- [email protected]
  
  One should perhaps quote the favourite retort that is used when the boot is being applied the other way politically.
  
  “Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.”
  
  Until he provides some details of exactly what he is being taken to court for it is very hard to judge whether this is genuinely a free speech issue. Or just Martyn simply has said something illegal himself and is now having to be accountable for that.
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:31am
- imalwaysright
  
  He refers to the “Star Chamber”. Presumably he means the Supreme Court.
  Not sure if its their normal duty to censor blogs.
  
  He also says he is up for 6 months in jail.
  Very unlikely that he would… home D maybe? That makes the Givealittle plea sound melodramatic.
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:47am
- Ghost
  
  I found two posts that have been removed from the main page but are still on his website. But if he cannot tell people what is going on, is their a suppression order restricting us from saying?
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:52am
- rouppe
  
  Served legal directives from the “Star chamber”. Lol. A 15th century concept that no longer exists.
  
  Random questions:
  * How does something get to court in weeks or months when murderers languish for years before trial.
  * Suppression orders, or orders to take content down can only come from the court (I think?) so there’s already been some water under the bridge on this?
  * If he’s been sent take down letters from lawyers he surely doesn’t have to until a determination is made in court?
  
  Curious, anyway
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:47am
- Handyman
  
  I clicked the link. The introduction states…
  “The Daily Blog is New Zealand’s largest left wing blog”.
  He is mistaken; that would be Stuff.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:54am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Certainly wouldn’t be The Standard. They would appear to have half a dozen or so commenters taking turns at posting tripe.
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:16am
    - Im Right
      
      And the same half a dozen patting each other on the back for a well written post Tarquin
      They only have about 12-15 regular posters all agreeing with each other.
      The Standard would have been gone years ago without Labour funding, Lynn Prentice the owner insists he receives no Labour funding, then again he also insists it’s not a Labour friendly blog lol
      I believe he gave 4 or 5 links to posts/threads at one stage to prove it’s not a Labour echo chamber…4 or 5 Vs 10,500 and counting!
      
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      August 3, 2026 4:38pm
- rouppe
  
  So, a little reverse digging:
  
  He’s said he’s under threat of 6 months in prison or a $5000 fine.
  
  AI tells me that this is set of punishments are for failing to comply with a court order to take down posts that breach the Harmful Digital Communications Act.
  
  So it would appear he posted something that was offensive, there was a complaint, an order to take them down which he must have refused to do until the hammer dropped.
  
  The only other offences are gang insignia or consorting offences. Since he’s said it’s about censorship I guess it’s the former but still don’t know the content.
  
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  August 3, 2026 2:47pm
BeaB

Young women have many choices these days and $5000 a year for the first three years isn’t going to divert them from careers, travel and independent lives. Some manage to have a family and juggle competing demands but it’s always hard work. Also, the instability of many marriages means women can be left on their own to bring up children.
Greater opportunities for NZ women have led to smaller families and in some cases none at all. If immigration is our only hope of building our population perhaps we could recruit from a more diverse range of countries. I love our Asian markets and food. Imagine our choices if we had even more from countries like Spain, Italy and Greece.
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August 3, 2026 8:44am
- Ian Boag
  
  even more from countries like Spain, Italy and Greece.
  
  All of which have the same low birthrate problem. We can’t get away from the way modern contraception has opened a world of opportunities for women. Lots of them take it ….
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:08am
  - kevn
    
    Abortion is a close second.
    One in three conceptions in the UK end up as abortions. Could be similar in NZ?
    https://dailysceptic.org/2026/07/07/how-fertility-apps-contribute-to-the-rise-in-abortions/
    Reduced fertility in males and females is also noted as a side effect of the C19 jabs. A global trend except where the C19 jabs were lightly applied. Africa.
    
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    August 3, 2026 10:21am
  - RoboRob
    
    Actually I think contraception and abortion have less to do with it then the rise of the internet. Young people are much less sociable. You can see this in the large and rapid reduction in booze sales.
    
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    August 3, 2026 10:34am
    - ISeeRed
      
      The “rise of the internet” in the late 1990s has more to do with the plummeting birth rates that kicked off in the 1970s than actual birth control?! Fertility rates dropped below population replacement levels with a decade or so of the introduction of the pill and of course feminism teaching marriage is slavery and children are a burden. Other major factors today are the cost of living crisis, housing affordability and a job market overcrowded with immigrants. When people feel the economic odds are stacked against them, they won’t settle down and start a family. And if young people are much less sociable, that’s mainly a hangover from the COVID lockdowns, not less alchohol consumption. But thanks for the laugh.
      
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      August 3, 2026 10:56am
    - kevn
      
      Robo… Apparently in the US, weed is more commonly used than alcohol.
      
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      August 3, 2026 11:05am
      - kevn
        
        Weed v/s alcohol. Like this…
        https://x.com/foxnewshealth/status/2083901446622458018
        
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        August 3, 2026 11:15am
- David George
  
  “more from countries like Spain, Italy and Greece”
  Those countries have a similar, or worse, population problem than we do, as Ian points out.
  Not only that but they have a major problem with the third worlders and Muslims they foolishly let in.
  We don’t want to end up like those guys, compatible cultures only .
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:18am
David George

Bill Maher:
“I’m just gonna say it, since the far left, the far, far left, is overwhelmingly made up of affluent, ultra woke, white people, you raised your kids wrong. You told your precious brats that every brain fart was genius, and now those brain farts are becoming Democratic Party policy.”
https://x.com/RichSementa/status/2083733810294685840/video/1
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August 3, 2026 8:54am
- Simon
  
  Zionist only care about one issue. Israel govt actions turned a lot of people.
  
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  August 3, 2026 9:15am
  - David George
    
    Simon: “Zionist only care about one issue”.
    A/ No we don’t
    B/ Bill doesn’t even mention Jews or Israel in that clip I posted.
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:07am
Simon

Ardern train wreck govt into the utter garbage Luxon govt.

NZ can’t handle these blows anymore. NZ can’t carry these clowns
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August 3, 2026 9:17am
- Ian Boag
  
  Such perceptive analysis. The nation is obviously gagging to hear your solution …. 🙂
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:05am
  - surfing
    
    There is no solution, because much of the problem are Maori throwing down a haka or trudging up and down the country any time someone suggests a way to move NZ forward.
    
    Also, don’t dare suggest we make education actually useful.
    
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    August 3, 2026 4:05pm
Gravelroad

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361014787/winston-peters-calls-arrests-over-mock-guillotine-protest-targeting-him
On stuff now.
This is not acceptable “street theatre”. Or any other “harmless prank”.
It is personal violence depicted against a politician.
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August 3, 2026 9:21am
slightlyrighty

NZ First 45k triple baby bonus is a stupid investment in tomorrows social problems. Paying people to breed doesn’t lead to great outcomes.
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August 3, 2026 9:37am
- Ian Boag
  
  doesn’t lead to great outcomes
  
  Based on what has happened elsewhere in the world it appears to not lead to any outcomes at all ….
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:07am
  - slightlyrighty
    
    I have a theory that the children of those single mothers who abused the DPB as a pathway to income are more likely to be a greater drain on society that those kids that were brought into the world for the purpose of making sure Mum didn’t have to go to work.
    
    The DPB was introduce in 1973, and 4 year later 20% of claimants were Single Mothers, and the total number of claimants had tripled over that 4 year period.
    
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    August 3, 2026 11:22am
- rouppe
  
  Under the proposal, at least one parent would need to be a New Zealand citizen and at least one parent would need to be in work.
  
  So the solo mum on a benefit wouldn’t qualify. Not naming the father makes you ineligible.
  
  There has to be two known parents, and one needs to be working. Though I’d hope there was a minimum amount z not just 1 hour a week
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:51pm
G152

Schools had disciplinary devices.
Straps, canes, detentions.
Reinstate them
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August 3, 2026 9:45am
- Colville
  
  I dont remember any of the above methods affecting my behaviour one bit! 🙂
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:22am
  - Paulus
    
    I had one of them regularly but it did not affect me one serious iota.
    Later in life the Head became good friends.
    As Dad said serves you right.
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:10pm
Jack5

Know how much of our Internet fees are going to non-computer organisations?

Filed this too late last night to get in after Gary Benner’ṡ fine post on Internet NZ …

^^^

Internet New Zealand Incorporated is a well-heeled organisation, registered as a charity. Here are a couple of points from its last filed annual report — for 2024-25.

Total equity (i.e. net assets) was $11.726 million at March 31,2025, which was the last balance date posted. This was after a deficit for the year of $178,880.

Most of its income comes from registry fees — in the 2024-25 financial year, $13,584,410. Of this, it cost just $1,406,504 to run this business – the Domain Name Commission.

The rest went to, in the Internet NZ’s own words:

– Community Funding $999,500.
– Te Puni Raupa (Organisation Performance) $4,023,905.
– Te Puni Whiria (Public Impact) $2,362,327.
– Te Puni Whakawhanake Rawa (Customer & Product) $5,280,778.

In this 2024-25 annual report filed with the Charities Commission, Internet NZ notes: “Of the total funds distributed, 44.86% ($448,390) was allocated to Maori individuals or organisations. This was an increase from the 35.97% allocated in 2023/24, and from the 25.02% allocated in 2022/23.”

And:”In 2024-2025, $448,390 [was] contributed to the ‘Te Tiriti-centric organisation’ whainga.”

It says the Domain Name Commission, which it runs, had three strategic positions for 2024-45:

1. Centring Te Tiriti o Waitangi throughout all we [sic] do.
2. Strengthening the home of .nz to reflect the importance of the .nz critical infrastructure for Aotearoa.
3. Effectively regulating the .nz domain name space.
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- Blog-aholic
  
  If this is the case shouldn’t our domain become .ao? I joke but saying that I bet it is on the cards in someone’s hand…..
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:18am
  - Jack5
    
    Bet they are pissed off that Angola has the .ao domain. Austria has .at and Argentina has .ar.
    
    If they would return to the country’s early post-colonial Maori name of Niu Tīreni, then .nt seems to be available.
    
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    August 3, 2026 12:53pm
Master Mariner

DEI. The E Should stand for Equity.
Bring back the Male teachers.
In addition bring back rules to allow the family unit to florish.
Thats the elephant in the room.
Otherwise everything is just piss and wind.
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August 3, 2026 9:51am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Bring back male university students, Aussie is now about 65% female vs 35% male enrollments probably similar here it’s a western worldwide thing. Our public service is majority female, more female doctor grads, vets , pharmacists.
  DEI and feminism is code for not employing white men.
  Clearly the goal isn’t for a profession to mirror the society it represents, because it doesn’t, they have destroyed male education.
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:35am
- Mr Nobody NZ
  
  Why would any self respecting male want to subject themselves to the teaching industry?
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:13pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Long and frequent holidays (12-13 weeks)- good for outdoor pursuits/ doing up rental properties.
    
    (they’re the main reasons some of my male mates & acquaintances remained in teaching)
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:20pm
    - R
      
      ‘rental properties’…..these would be properties purchased on the inadequate salary paid to teachers. Ref teacher union reps.
      
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      August 3, 2026 7:56pm
Philview

My main source of news is still TVNZ news with some perusal of the Herald website and occasional view of Stuff and RNZ. For a centre right view point I go mostly to this site and breakingviews for opinion. At this point I get the impression that the policies of the centre right coalition are being picked apart but I am wondering about say the polices of the Green Party. We have to go and read their manifesto to know what they are planning. I had heard they want to phase out prisons and so went to their manifesto and found the intent vague. More community sentences and more focus on equity in applying sentences. All of this points to non custodial sentencing without pledging the hard numbers.
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August 3, 2026 9:52am
rouppe

I see Molesworth Station management has been awarded to Ngai Tahu Farming.

I asked ai to unravel the tax obligations:

Because Ngāi Tahu Farming Limited is registered as a charity (Registration Number: CC35601) under the umbrella of the Ngāi Tahu Charitable Trust, its profits are exempt from standard New Zealand income tax

So the new Zealand taxpayer had lost revenue for the further enrichment of Ngai Tahu.

Shame on DOC and the government for perpetuating this deliberate transfer of wealth from all New Zealanders to the few.
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August 3, 2026 10:02am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Ngai Tahu are managing Molesworth on behalf of DoC. Presumably, they are paid a fee for management, and any surplus is paid as a dividend to the Crown.
  
  Or am I unduly optimistic?
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:06am
  - imalwaysright
    
    Wasn’t there a similar arrangement for local Maori to look after Lake Waikaremoana?
    
    That went tits up very quickly.
    
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    August 3, 2026 12:14pm
    - Taieri
      
      Considering that most of Ngai Tahu are predominantly of the European ethnic background, any comparisons with Waikaremoana are meaningless.
      
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      August 3, 2026 4:19pm
  - rouppe
    
    You may be correct. I don’t know.
    
    It’s fair to say I’m overly pessimistic.
    
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    August 3, 2026 12:57pm
- Ian Boag
  
  Arguably the whole “tax exemption for charities” thing could be ditched …. ?
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:10am
  - rouppe
    
    Last year, I think, ird sought public submissions on charities and tax treatment of commercial operations.
    
    It was hurriedly shelved.
    
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    August 3, 2026 10:12am
    - kevn
      
      rouppe… I suggested the same to our Nats MP some years ago.
      ‘Didn’t want to poke the sleeping bros bear’.
      
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      August 3, 2026 10:23am
      - RoboRob
        
        Perhaps Act or NZF might take this up as a policy. Certainly National in its current incarnation, isn’t the right vehicle for major changes like this.
        
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        August 3, 2026 10:36am
      - Colville
        
        RoboRob.
        
        Certainly National in its current incarnation, isn’t the right vehicle for major changes like this.
        
        There are a lot of people who would say the National party isnt “right” at all.
        
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        August 3, 2026 10:49am
- keepcalmcarryon
  
  Whale watch also a ngai tahu attachment was especially chosen and given millions of taxpayer dollars over COVID to pay its workers, despite the organization not being ordinary taxpayers.
  It’s seems a pretty shitty partnership.
  
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  August 3, 2026 10:12am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Don’t fret the Molesworth gate will soon not be reopened due to ‘environmental’ concerns……
  
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  August 3, 2026 11:21am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Will probably be closed this summer and coming Autumn because of El Nino
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:25pm
  - Quail
    
    Blog aholic et al,
    Ngai Tahu is a Maori / Irish / European corporate that uses links to one very small part of their ancestry to solely benefit their corporate .
    It is a farming corporate that pays no tax because of charitable status.
    NT have also received a number of settlement payments from the Crown . And they are also expressing interest in profiting from water management among other things
    Molesworth used to run sheep until the huge snowstorms of the 1940’s wiped out most of them and the run holder with them. (financially )
    Global warming now seems to.have reduced that risk , plus having roads helicopters, bulldozers and much improved access to be able to manage that risk.
    Much taxpayer funding has created the Station we know as Molesworth. There are huge opportunities for the next managers.
    IMHO it is an absolute disgrace that Ngai Tahu farming , who as a Charity will not be paying any tax or I suspect even rent, have been selected to manage Molesworth.
    This is an absolutely terrible decision by this Government.
    It is becoming more apparent this Government has little interest in getting re-elected .
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:33pm
    - OlderChas
      
      So – if they are “managing it” and Molesworth need a new tractor (or helicopter?) – who pays for it? Serious question – I hope the answer is not DOC – i.e. you and me?
      
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      August 3, 2026 6:02pm
      - Ghost
        
        The lessee pays for all equipment and repairs.
        
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        August 4, 2026 9:22am
NeverMindTheBollocks

The reality is that there are some people who are beyond our help, Caitlin McDonald being one of them. It’s clear from the story that a vast amount of publicly funded effort was expended on her behalf. Mandatory incarceration in some sort of sheltered accommodation might have prolonged her life, but I doubt that is something she would have wanted.

It’s tricky, eh.

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/regions_canterbury/868406/she-should-still-be-alive-caitlin-mcdonald-s-final-weeks
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August 3, 2026 10:13am
sungsamning

https://redstate.com/kyle-becker/2026/08/02/trump-cancels-iran-attack-calls-for-immediate-peace-deal-after-allies-make-unusual-request-n2205072
Trump Cancels Iran Attack, Calls for Immediate Peace Deal After Allies Make Unusual Request.
President Donald Trump has called for an immediate peace deal with Iran after U.S. allies made unusually vocal calls to hold off on any massive attack.

“The U.S.A. is locked and loaded and ready to go against the Islamic Republic of Iran, at levels of Military Terror, Strength, and Power not seen since World War II. Despite this, we have just been asked by Iran, and other Middle Eastern Countries, to hold off any attack in that the perimeters of a deal has been agreed to”. Lets hope the peace faction in Iran outnumbers the war faction. The Middle East needs to move on, and give the City of Londons shenanigans the heave ho.
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August 3, 2026 10:16am
- mike
  
  Trump has claimed or announced that a deal or breakthrough with Iran was imminent or close at least 38 times, so don’t hold your breath.
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:48pm
Jack5

Genius-level analysis at Stuff.

The headline:

Not just another baby bonus: The figures driving Winston Peters $45k Kiwi Kids Grant

The reporter writes: “One condition on the cash – one parent must be a citizen.”

If a country wants to increase the number of native born, such a condition is obvious.

If you don’t care where the people came from, you just open up your borders.

The UN says there are more than 40 million refugees in the world and more than 114 million people are “displaced”. That’s not including hundreds of thousands from the Third World trying to crash into Europe.

When a country’s birth level sinks below replacement, and pressure is building on international borders, a policy to increase the national birthrate is perfectly legitimate.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361014700/not-just-another-baby-bonus-figures-driving-winston-peters-45k-kiwi-kids-grant
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August 3, 2026 10:17am
- mike
  
  While flawed, the policy is restricted to NZers, ie, those born here.
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:58pm
  - rouppe
    
    No, it’s restricted to NZ citizens which one can become after being born somewhere else.
    
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    August 3, 2026 2:28pm
sungsamning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b86IRBYyBHQ
Rupert Lowe’s Historic Offer to Nigel Farage Just Dropped.
Rupert Lowe has made a series of offers on policy. Such as restoring the death penalty, mass deportations, and living within Britains means. [Excuse the AI voice. These ideas are workable. If not now, when? ]
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August 3, 2026 10:17am
- mogg
  
  Restore have a polling average of 3% nationwide, he is in no position to make any demands. The Burnham bounce’ is exactly that, like Jacinda he only talks about the easy things without explaining where the £38 billion so far, cost of his promises will come from. He is a prisoner of the far left back benchers who want tax increases on “the wealthy” to pay for more welfare.
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:55pm
  - sungsamning
    
    Yes, its a pity they’re not a lot higher.
    
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    August 4, 2026 1:26pm
- Charlotte Wells
  
  Will the banning of halal, sharia, and burka lead to a mass exodus of those allowed to be in Britain?
  
  The problems won’t go away just by removing illegals.
  
  The legals that remain are a slow release problem.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:05pm
- Philview
  
  I shudder to think of the death penalty in the UK given the many publicised miscarriages of justice.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:06pm
Jack5

A deaf, 65-year-old man died after an arrest that included a constable’s martial-arts type one leg takedown.

The man resisted being handcuffed and died of injuries that included a broken back.

First, here’s a successful one-leg takedown, and the “victim” doesn’t suffer a broken back:

https://youtu.be/WsTqgJLhOaY?si=a4YxCkxSsw6ZUgn8

Report of NZ incident:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/361006374/man-died-after-police-officers-rugby-spear-tackle-during-struggle
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August 3, 2026 10:59am
- Mr Nobody NZ
  
  I’m sure the officer will be held to the same levels of justice if You or I acted in such a manner.
  
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  August 3, 2026 12:18pm
  - Charlotte Wells
    
    Police are put in situations that you or I are not put in.
    
    Police have a duty and an obligation to put themselves in harms way so you or I aren’t.
    
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    August 3, 2026 1:08pm
    - Hugh Jarse
      
      All of that is absolutely true Charlotte, but the difference between those that police and those that are policed is that the former are rightfully held to a higher standard and must behave lawfully in the face of provocation or they gradually erode the trust and confidence of the public.
      
      The difficulty with this one is that a man has lost his life for a relatively minor charge and found not to be culpable by fellow officers, albeit as a senior level, not an independent authority. It may be the correct decision but the conflicting opinion of the IPCA would suggest there is room for debate.
      
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      August 3, 2026 3:27pm
- Hugh Jarse
  
  I am a big fan of the Police and the role they play, but it’s about time the final decision regarding prosecution of Police officers was taken away from police and given to the IPCA. Had the roles been reversed I have no doubt the offender would have been charged with manslaughter in these circumstances.
  
  On another note why are we routinely waiting for 4-5 years for Coroner Courts outcomes these days ?. The relevance of those outcomes will have been well eroded by the delays in publishing them.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:41pm
kevn

A more accessible link…
https://www.foxnews.com/health/america-hits-major-marijuana-milestone-daily-weed-use-surpasses-daily-drinking
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August 3, 2026 11:54am
Yvette

Does the Winston incident involving the mock guillotine now extend to an incidental international insult to France? :o)
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August 3, 2026 12:48pm
- Charlotte Wells
  
  And Germany.
  
  The Nazi regime used to guillotine to behead anti-nazi teenage protestors.
  
  Those protestors in Auckland are far-right, fascist, neo-nazi sympathisers.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:11pm
  - mandk
    
    Indeed, it did.
    
    Most notably Sophie Scholl, of the White Rose movement.
    
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    August 3, 2026 3:15pm
Yvette

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon is yet to pick up the phone to Winston Peters after his tirade towards a Chinese-born MP in Parliament last week, saying he will talk to the foreign minister “at some point”.

Should I be wondering if Luxon could at least assert himself by saying something along the lines of –
“We have worked as a coalition with New Zealand First and ACT but they are distinct parties who have very right, as an Election approaches, to express themselves as they wish their voters to see them and therefore I have no further comment to make. Voters should listen carefully to determine if, for example, Winston is talking as Coalition Minister for Foreign Affairs, or Leader of the New Zealand First Party.”
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August 3, 2026 1:13pm
- RoboRob
  
  Want a job as National party leader? At least after your response you know where you stand, unlike Luxons response where its more of a ‘yeah I may talk to him about it and I might say its bad or I might tell him he did a good job, I’ll leave it to the listener to interpret it’.
  
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  August 3, 2026 1:23pm
  - mike
    
    What’s Luxon to do – admit he has no authority over his cabinet ministers?
    
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    August 3, 2026 1:32pm
    - Jack5
      
      MMP coalition government’s complicated, isn’t it?
      
      Ninety-six days till the voting booths open, and if you fire from Cabinet the leader of a coalition partner, you break up the coalition.
      
      Labour would love that.
      
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      August 3, 2026 1:51pm
    - Yvette
      
      As I have suggested, Luxon could respond with something like –
      “Voters should listen carefully to determine if, for example, Winston is talking as Coalition Minister for Foreign Affairs, or Leader of the New Zealand First Party”
      That may reflect what Winston is doing, but if not, is he going to deny it?
      
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      August 3, 2026 2:16pm
    - RoboRob
      
      Yes, he should. He has no control over NZF or ACT ministers. If they want to do stupid things and their party leader thinks that’s OK there is little Luxon can do. Kicking Winston would just de solve the government and trigger a snap election.
      
      He should just say so.
      
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      August 3, 2026 2:45pm
Paulus

Nothing will change for National after the election where as a consequence Luxon resigns and a Woman take over as Leader like in many other place now – for now.
But she will have to be strongly feminist Left wing in her influences and appointments.
None currently in National though ( nor Labour).
Ardern tought us lessons and women loved it particularly in the bowels of Wellington power.
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August 3, 2026 2:20pm
- mandk
  
  Did Ardern really teach us lessons, and did women really love it?
  
  Ardern was a long way behind English in 2017 and only became PM because Peters so decided.
  
  She did win in 2020, but this was arguably only because there was no appetite to change the government during COVID.
  
  And she would have been humiliated in 2023, had she not seen the writing on the wall, with her popularity plummeting.
  
  I really can’t understand why foreigners want to pay $thousands to hear her speak.
  
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  August 3, 2026 3:08pm
  - cmm (semi-retired edition)
    
    “I really can’t understand why foreigners want to pay $thousands to hear her speak.”
    
    It’s quid pro quo.
    
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    August 3, 2026 3:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

NZ looks to be an easy touch for countries/families to dump their mentally ill folk on us.

Meng, a carpenter assistant, reportedly said the cost of medication prompted him to stop taking anti-psychotics before moving to New Zealand.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-axe-attacker-quietly-deported-to-china/EXY4STSZ7FEERFWKJAU2NIOHBI/
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August 3, 2026 2:32pm
surfing

What is wrong with Luxon? Insulting small businesses because they can’t deal with his government’s red tape , taxes, and lethargy in reducing the size of government!!

An article in today’s herald counted up the projects that were started and ended without lifting a shovel — 17 billion dollars worth, enough to pay for many of those abandoned projects.

Ardern’s govt was the worst in the short history of nz, Luxon has struggled although he has slowly started turning the ship. Too slow though. eg, Where is the radical tax plan to attract multinationals away from Ireland? Ireland were pretty scummy in what they did, but, the bar is set, lets compete.
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August 3, 2026 4:09pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Ireland is in the EU. We aren’t.
  
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  August 4, 2026 7:00am
Ghost

Another problem for NZ first

A senior figure in New Zealand First’s youth wing has been linked to a neo-Nazi group and online accounts that praised Adolf Hitler, an investigation by The Press has found.

Nicholas Newport, 23, was named as a member of the executive of Young New Zealand First in late 2024, and last month spoke at the party’s national convention.

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