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Cassandra

The Houthis have captured Mocha, a port on the Red Sea, from the Yemeni government.

Attackers chanted “God is the greatest, death to America, death to Israel, a curse on the Jews, and victory to Islam”.

Beats “Better Starts Now” I suppose.
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September 12, 2026 8:02am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Mocha, home of coffee
  
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  September 12, 2026 8:21am
- David George
  
  The Saudis, with their formidable air force, will ramp up the attacks on the Houthis to keep the straits free. The US have said they will help with intelligence and logistic support – though they’ve no plans to intervene directly against the Houthis.
  I’m pretty sure the Saudis can do this.
  
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  September 12, 2026 8:33am
  - igm
    
    The Saudis are well resourced and also very capable.
    
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    September 12, 2026 8:36am
    - kowtow
      
      The Israelis are better resourced and historically shown to be capable , in that area.
      
      Moses parted the darned thing and then destroyed the army in pursuit !
      
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      September 12, 2026 11:22am
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      No they have spent a lot of money on kit. Unfortunately the kit is being run by Arabs. Expect them to lose. Remember the Israeli general who asked what the secret of success was, said and I paraphrase, we were fighting Arabs.
      
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      September 13, 2026 3:51pm
  - mike
    
    Why would you think the Saudis will be successful this time, after their previous failures in Yemen?
    
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    September 12, 2026 8:49am
    - David George
      
      Necessity.
      Because of internal Islamist factions within the Arab kingdoms there has been a reluctance to “go the whole hog” with the Houthis. They have always had the hardware and now they have the will.
      
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      September 12, 2026 9:16am
      - mike
        
        I see no reason why the Saudis would be any more successful than the US vs Iran.
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:20am
      - I remember when
        
        Mike: “I see no reason why….”
        The US are not at home, do not already control large parts of Iran and it is Islam v Islam, not Islam against the infidel.
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:40am
      - Colville
        
        David George
        
        Saudi can also pour money on the problem.
        A $1Mil or $10Mil even reward for a leaders head (or coordinates) is a massive temptation to people living dirt poor.
        Some say House of Saud is worth $3 to $5 Trillion.
        
        so $3,000,000,000,000.
        
        They can afford to pay people well.
        
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        September 12, 2026 11:19am
    - David George
      
      Saudi Arabia has the Mecca Joint Defence Agreement with Pakistan and Turkey that commits the three countries to treat an attack on any member as an attack on all.
      The Iranian puppet Houthis are seriously (suicidally?) out numbered, out gunned and out of friends. Perhaps they’re too fanatical to think straight.
      
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      September 12, 2026 1:13pm
      - David George
        
        It should be noted that the Houthis have now attacked an oil refinery and a desalination plant in Al-Shaqeeq, southern S A. They have also attacked and caused to be shut down the main East-West Saudi oil pipeline.
        The conditions for Pakistani and Turkish military involvement have been met.
        
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        September 12, 2026 1:22pm
    - NZer In Exile
      
      I’m thinking their leadership and associates don’t want their cages rattled too much. Life is too sweet. There probably will come a point (when they see their Kingdom in serious danger) where they WILL unleash the Kraken.
      
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      September 12, 2026 4:09pm
      - Drone
        
        This whole sh*t show is part of an Israeli American plot to destabilize the Middle East..
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:10pm
  - Damocles11
    
    Would it have been better to use their ‘formidable’ forces to stop the Houthis from capturing ports, coastline, and islands in the first place? Or is this the Saudis playing ‘5D Chess’ and we should be looking at defeats through a prism and seeing victories?
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:23am
    - David George
      
      It’s complicated by internal politics – as is the US war against the Islamic Regime.
      There are violent and committed factions within S A that are against the very idea of anything other than a Caliphate based on Sharia law. They could be a (more?) serious problem if/when SA goes all out against the like minded Houthis. A lot of the governments in the area have similar problems.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:13am
- Simon
  
  This must not stand. It’s time for “The Warriors of the Seas” aka NZ military boat department to take action. A landing force to assert authority!
  
  A rousing haka from Devonport motu and you are on your way!
  
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  September 12, 2026 8:38am
  - pdm
    
    `…………………………and you are on your way!’
    
    To the Red Sea?
    
    It will be all over by the time they get there.
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:28am
  - artemisia
    
    A rousing send off with the Battle Hymn of the Republic rather than a haka will scare any Houthi who recall history.
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:33am
- cmm (semi-retired edition)
  
  What happened to that huge force that was sent there a while ago?
  
  NZ even sent 6 people. Didn’t that solve the problem?
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:23am
- Handyman
  
  For context, Mocha Town is 2 km long and 1 km wide.
  Divided by the blast area of bombs from a Saudi jet requires 200 bombs. Saudi has 300 jet fighters.
  Saudi is not Israel or USA so there will be no condemnation of the Guernica in the desert.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:57am
- david in Aus
  
  FAKE NEWS. Everybody knows Trump has won the war. He said this on 34 occasions. So much so, he wants to build an arch of triumph in Washington DC.
  
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  September 12, 2026 11:55am
  - NZer In Exile
    
    He’s definitely not normal but does do a lot of good. If only he could take wise counsel and skip the ridiculous statements.
    
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    September 12, 2026 4:11pm
    - david in Aus
      
      What good are you talking about? Apart from stances on immigration and woke agenda, he has been a disaster. Tarrif(tax) and spend, deficits, and wars. America is not an ally anymore, it wants other countries to be vassals.
      
      There is a special talent in making Canada an adversery. So is making Jacinda Adern look like a fiscal conservative by comparison. $5000 for every adult, LOL.
      
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      September 12, 2026 5:15pm
Damocles11

New information regarding the male ‘hold out’ juror who refused to buckle to a gaggle of liberal white women. You can see the exact moment cognitive dissonance overwhelms the brain –

https://x.com/CurtisHouck/status/2098380024369811488
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September 12, 2026 8:21am
- peterwn
  
  That is why NZ introduced 11-1 majority verdicts some years ago. The jury must deliberate for four hours at least before the judge would accept a majority verdict. This seems to have caused no practical issues.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:40am
  - David Garrett
    
    Peter: I have never done a jury trial in NZ, but I thought Judges could now accept a 10-2 verdict in certain cases…am I wrong?
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:30am
    - David Garrett
      
      I am wrong according to Dr Google…should have asked the good doctor first.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:38am
    - gorse
      
      Yes, they can accept 10, but only when the Jury has previously dropped below 12 due to illness or other valid reason. They can’t accept a verdict of 10 out of 12.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:43am
    - Cassandra
      
      UK I think, not NZ.
      
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      September 12, 2026 2:38pm
graham

TVNZ’s One News last night had a story on the police trialing a tool that allows them to use their phones to scan number plates, which can then be checked to discover if the vehicle has been stolen, or belongs to a “person of interest”.

Naturally, no story like this would be complete unless some expert of one form or another was rolled out to express their concern and explain how this is a huge problem, a breach of our rights, and so on. And so, criminologist Emmy Rākete was interviewed and of course she expressed concerns about potential privacy breaches.

“That’s a really profound form of contact with the state, and it’s a really big move for the police to arrogate for themselves the right to know where everyone is at every moment,” she said.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2026/09/11/gamechanger-police-trialling-phone-tech-to-scan-number-plates/

What One News didn’t mention was Ms Rākete’s credentials or background. Strangely, they decided not to inform us that Ms Rākete helped to found the prison abolitionist organisation People Against Prisons Aotearoa in 2015, or that she is the group’s press spokesperson. Which I would have thought might throw some light on her views when talking about a story concerning the police …

Ms Rākete describes herself as a “critical Marxist scholar working in the activist-academic tradition” whose goal is to “demonstrate how social problems originate in the structure of society itself, and to argue for organised class struggle as a means of changing that structure.”

https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/emilie-rakete
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September 12, 2026 8:22am
- kowtow
  
  I do hope no one ever steals anything belonging to her or her nearest and dearest , or causes any of them any catastrophic injuries or deaths in a stolen or unregistered vehicle driven by a banned , drugged up or unlicensed moron.
  
  Class struggle my arse.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:49am
  - David Garrett
    
    Kow: Anyone who still thinks “class struggle” is appropriate a quarter way through the 21st century has to be an idiot.
    
    She proves that by being quite wrong. This tool doesn’t allow the police to know “where everyone is at every moment”. All it does is allow them to know more information about the car and its driver at the particular moment when they observe the car.
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:43am
    - kowtow
      
      Anyone running a ‘charitable ” institution , funded by the tax payer ( largely) employing anyone describing themselves as a ““critical Marxist scholar working in the activist-academic tradition” is also an idiot . And hypocrite .
      Marxists of that “tradition” have a huge amount of blood , misery , destruction and division on their hands ( ideologically at the very least) and actually have no place in academia , given how dangerous and treacherous they are.
      And before anyone here gets too precious about that statement ,our constitution is founded on liberal democratic principles and values not the discredited , defunct class rot that she espouses.
      
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      September 12, 2026 11:28am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        If we’re funding it then we’re the idiots
        
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        September 12, 2026 3:25pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Actually a “he” and a raving antisemite
  
  Auckland Uni just turns a blind eye to their growing pool of radical “academics”
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:54am
- Inandout
  
  Tolled roads use cameras to scan number plates.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:51am
  - Colville
    
    and the new speed averaging speed cameras which are everywhere in Aussie so no one speeds or uses phones. $1000ish per fine. My kids learnt quickly!
    Every bridge has cameras on it looking at you as you drive.
    We need it here. Lower the road toll and earn a shit load of fines from dumb people!
    
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    September 12, 2026 11:25am
    - keepcalmcarryon
      
      Whereas id rather not live in a surveillance state.
      
      Got stuck in a long traffic convoy last week when a truck decided he needed to pass another truck at 95 km/hr, never mind the many people waiting to pass both for more than 20 minutes. No more passing lanes for many kilometers.
      Also had a frustrated driver passing (truck) on a blind corner same week different day.
      The law can be an ass, forcing people to convoy triggers an idiot few to do silly things.
      Monitoring cameras are about revenue not safety.
      
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      September 12, 2026 4:15pm
- Pope Punctilious II
  
  Your tax dollars are funding a “Critical Marxist scholar working in the activist-academic tradition”. Let that sink in. Tuition fees only contribute 25-35 % of NZ university running costs, depending on the field of study.
  
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  September 12, 2026 3:49pm
- rouppe
  
  Number plate recognition tech has been around for ages. Doesn’t Auckland Council use it for parking enforcement?
  
  I doubt this is doing anything other than “yes/no” as a vehicle of interest. Subsequent enquiry when there’s a “yes”
  
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  September 12, 2026 6:52pm
Southern Raider

If your planning to have a major medical event like a heart attack don’t do it outside the Mt Albert Medical Centre

An ex nurse from a neighbouring business came across two young adults trying to assist an elderly man with a low pulse

They tried to get a doctor from the medical centre but were told it wasn’t their patient, they tried to use the defibrillator but was told it wasn’t their patient, they asked for a blanket and pillow and told it wasn’t their patient

The guy died before the ambulance turned up

Mt Albert Medical Centre is owned by Indians. Don’t try and die near there as they won’t help
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September 12, 2026 8:23am
- pdm
  
  I remember when a defibrilator was donated to the Waipawa Bowling Club 30 odd years ago.
  
  It sat on the wall in a handy position for someone to grab if needed for years.
  
  Problem was there was not one member of the club at the time who had a clue how to use it – myself among them.
  
  In the early 20’s when I did a stint as Club President we got the Head Honcho from the local St John Amublance (no Hato Hone in those days) to demonstrate it to members.
  
  As far as I know it has not been needed so still sits on the wall I assume and I wonder how many, if any, current members know how it works.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:36am
  - peterwn
    
    If you need to use a defibrilator and have access to one but do not know how to use it, just call 111. The ambulance dispatcher will walk you through the process.
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:47am
    - Taieri
      
      Every modern defibrillator is provided with very simple visual instructions and clear voice prompts. Anyone can use it and there’s no need for any special training.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:19am
      - rouppe
        
        The thing that’s NOT on those instructions is to remove a woman’s bra, as the underwire can result in burn injuries when the defib is activated.
        
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        September 12, 2026 7:00pm
    - Jethrod
      
      There is also a process to go through for a regular check that the defibrillator is still operating as it is meant to.
      The local workshop I belong to recently had their’s checked, a lot of people in that age group where those sort of things are well regarded.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:28am
  - Southern Raider
    
    The modern ones talk you through the process. Although it would help you don’t need to have ever been trained in them before and just need to follow the audio instructions
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:56am
  - Southern Raider
    
    The other point in this case you overlooked is they requested a doctor and a defibrillator and were told they wouldn’t supply either
    
    In the various news articles the ex nurse said that the man’s head was banging on the concrete as they were attempting CPR so they sent someone to ask for pillow to protest his head and were told no as well.
    
    They then asked for a blanket to keep him warm and then provide some privacy but were told no to that as well
    
    The family should sue the medical centre
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:59am
    - David Garrett
      
      Southern: You can’t sue for wrongful death in NZ. What they should do is make a formal complaint about the doctor’s refusal to come out and assist.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:49am
      - Ghost
        
        a complaint was made
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:54am
      - Ghost
        
        multiple complaints now. The practise has taken their website down and not opened for their normal Saturday clinic
        
        Article
        
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        September 12, 2026 1:18pm
  - [email protected]
    
    The defibrillator I saw at a CPR practise section had simple to read instructions printed on it.
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:05am
    - NZer In Exile
      
      I think that’s the whole idea of them. Planted in strategic spots so they can be grabbed and used by “members of the public” if required.
      
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      September 12, 2026 4:13pm
  - tf78
    
    The staff at our local club are all taught how to use them nowadays. I wouldn’t have a clue.
    
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    September 12, 2026 6:08pm
- kowtow
  
  Oh how our te media pardy lurv to bleat “Only in America”.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:51am
- imalwaysright
  
  Do medical centres get public subsidies?
  
  If so, shouldn’t there be an obligation to help in emergencies.
  
  That’s assuming they are bereft of humanity.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:12am
  - pdm
    
    Not to mention the Hippocratic Oath.
    
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    September 12, 2026 11:47am
    - tf78
      
      I think it’s spelt differently these days, it’s “Hypocritic Oath”.
      
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      September 12, 2026 6:11pm
- kevn
  
  SR… Help only if you were a rego patient, then they can clip the $ ticket bigly.
  The Hippocratic Oath seem have got lost in translation.
  
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  September 12, 2026 11:00am
  - R
    
    Too many syllables for the average ‘joe’ to comprehend these days.
    
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    September 12, 2026 12:05pm
- Sir Henry Morgan
  
  Saw this story the other day and assumed there would be Indians involved. They just can’t help themselves.
  
  Someone should complain to the Medical Council.
  
  And yes, the medical center would receive public subsidies. Really, the whole health sector does.
  
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  September 12, 2026 1:32pm
  - OlderChas
    
    That Medical Centre should be shut down, and every licenced person working there have their licence cancelled. Absolutely shocking instance of highly trained and highly paid people totally shirking their responsibilities.
    I bet the poor old bugger who died was not a member of the gym that provided their defibrillator as soon as they noticed one was needed either.
    
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    September 12, 2026 5:32pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

How deluded is Ricardo. He doesn’t seem to understand that so many of our problems are caused by the tsunami of immigration over the last 25 years. Infrastructure deficits, low wages, low productivity per capita, increasing global emissions per capita – all caused or at least majorly exacerbated by too many people turning up here from offshore in too short a time.

“Greens spokesperson Ricardo Menendez March also criticised parties that would conflate New Zealand’s challenges with immigration.
“In our country we face a huge amount of challenges: we have an infrastructure deficit, an ageing population, we have low wages compared to other comparable nations, we have a tax system that overtaxes work while it doesn’t really want to touch wealth.
“None of these issues were caused by migrant workers, and none of these issues will be addressed by throwing dog whistles on getting tough on immigration, or extending the time that it takes for someone to become a permanent residency.”

http://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics_election-2026/1340334/act-and-nz-first-pitch-tighter-immigration-controls-others-warn-against-anti-immigration-policies
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September 12, 2026 8:27am
- Southern Raider
  
  I think the average IQ of Mexico went up when he left
  
  Would be interesting to see exactly how many “skilled migrants” were given visas and now work in uber, food delivery, vape and bottle store jobs that would effectively be negative tax payers
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:02am
- Taieri
  
  increasing global emissions per capita
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  Total emissions might increase but emissions per capita do not change, unless an immigrant “emits” more than a person already in the country.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:22am
  - Damocles11
    
    Total global emissions per capita increase because immigrants have a bigger carbon footprint when they move to developed nations.
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:49am
  - David George
    
    If the immigrant moves from a subsistence agricultural economy to a modern industrial first world country ( assuming they adopt it’s lifestyle, as they almost invariably do) global emissions and emissions per capita will increase. No?
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:53am
    - Taieri
      
      If they come from say, Burkina Faso, the answer is probably yes. But how many immigrants come to NZ from such countries?
      But if they come from the middle class Indian background their consumption pattern is unlikely to change much at all.
      
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      September 12, 2026 1:11pm
  - kowtow
    
    By all accounts his individual emissions would be quite considerable , I’d warrant possibly more than the average kiwi , given all his reported air travel to and fro Mexico to visit his family in gated type accomodation , which is also very different to how the vast majoridy of Mexicans live .
    
    But to be fair , this country was in desperate need of more film projectionists …….
    
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    September 12, 2026 11:41am
    - OlderChas
      
      kowtow – let alone the emissions he used flying back to Mexico toe bring his partner back during the covid lockdown.
      I have said it before but will say it again – I am fed up to the back teeth with so many spokespersons, experts, consultants – all immigrants by their accents – telling us how to run the country they chose to come to.
      
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      September 12, 2026 5:37pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Ricardo Menéndez March arrived in NZ as a tertiary student, but dropped out of his studies (supposedly because of lack of money)….and stayed as a low-skilled worker, until he hit the jackpot as a Green activist.
      
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      September 12, 2026 8:42pm
- CJames
  
  There has been a lot of useful analysis on energy consumption. He showed that there was a very solid relationship between GDP per capita and emissions. Here is an early version
  https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-emissions-vs-gdp.png
  So what Mr Ricardo is saying is he wants NZ to become a lot poorer. Then our emission per capita will drop. Just more confirmation the Greens want us to return to real poverty.
  
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  September 12, 2026 11:46am
Yvette

ACT: Finish the historical claims, end contemporary jurisdiction and close the Tribunal when the job is done.

The policy arrives in an election campaign already dominated by arguments over Treaty principles, Māori rights and the role of Te Tiriti in legislation.
ACT’s position now goes further than simply changing Treaty clauses in laws.

The Waitangi Tribunal has increasingly dealt with contemporary issues affecting Māori across health, education, housing, justice, disability, environment and public policy.
Removing contemporary jurisdiction would mean Māori could no longer bring new claims alleging that current Crown actions breach Treaty principles through the Tribunal process.
That would be a major constitutional shift.
https://waateanews.com/2026/09/10/act-puts-waitangi-tribunal-on-notice-contemporary-claims-would-end-under-new-policy/

While ACT especially seems to be the target of “the slings and arrows of outrage”, why does no one hammer Labour and especially the Maori Party for their aspiration to change of status of the Treaty and adding substance to matters that are not in it.

Labour Party leader Chris Hipkins strongly condemned the ACT Party’s newly announced policy proposal, warning that disestablishing the Waitangi Tribunal would take race relations in New Zealand back 200 years.

Disestablishing the Tribunal can surely only take anything back to when it didn’t exist, which was only 50 years, and dismisses work that it has done.
Chris Hipkins needs to think for himself – not have Willie Jackson and the Maori Party do it for him
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As an aside –
Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi Bill
9 – Treaty of Waitangi/te Tiriti o Waitangi not amended
Nothing in this Act amends the text of the Treaty of Waitangi/te Tiriti o Waitangi.
https://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2024/94/en/latest/#LMS1003447
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September 12, 2026 8:35am
- David Garrett
  
  I often wonder how many of the people calling for everyone to “honour te tiriti” know that the bloody thing contains three articles (paragraphs), and consists of about 300 words in total?
  
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  September 12, 2026 8:40am
  - Yvette
    
    And David, with your legal understanding, I guess you appreciate that when the American Supreme Court ruled Abortion was not in the Constitution, and that document didn’t offer any Right regarding it and it falls to each state to make laws covering it, there was a fuss here it “journalists” pestering Luxon about New Zealand law which remains unchanged, but totally missed the point of looking at what is actually in a founding document and what is not.
    We seem to have a considerable number of matters now aligned with the Treaty but simply are not in it.
    
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    September 12, 2026 8:48am
    - mike
      
      What is, or is not, constitutional in the US depends on the whim of politically partisan judges.
      
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      September 12, 2026 8:51am
      - Yvette
        
        Counting from the initial Bill of Rights through the 1992 ratification of congressional pay limits, the total count of ratified amendments to the U.S. Constitution is 27
        The 18th remains the sole instance of one amendment entirely overturning another – hardly indicative of any general whim of politically partisan judges.
        
        Written urgently, translated, and presented by Europeans, without input from Maori, the number amendments to the Treaty is: zilch
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:16am
      - mike
        
        You realise that the supreme court has no role in constitutional amendments? It merely reimagines meanings to conform to political whims
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:22am
      - Yvette
        
        Roe v. Wade protected the right to choose an abortion under the constitutional right to privacy. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in 2022, June 24, in the case Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, ending the federal right and leaving legality up to individual states.
        Whether a Constitutional Amendment or a precident court case, the result appears much the same.
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:43am
      - Cassandra
        
        Roe v Wade is the main one. Is that what you’re referring to?
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:55am
      - Cassandra
        
        That’s for mike.
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:56am
      - Yvette
        
        Cassandra, Mike is just putting rabbit-holes in the path.
        The main point was that after Wade was overturned, ‘journalists’ asked Luxom a bunch of dopey questions about Abortion, not what have we attached to our nation’s so-called founding document, but is not actually in it.
        Mike is actually doing what ‘journalist’ did with Luxon – make an issue out of what the US Supreme Court said was not a constitutional issue, rather than “If the US Supreme Court can say what is not in their founding document, what do we think is in our founding document, but indeed isn’t?”
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:55am
    - slightlyrighty
      
      My son recently moved into a new house, and his new neighbours suggested that they check in to see if they could get a healthy homes grant for a new heatpump.
      
      They did not qualify. Because they are not Maori.
      
      I would ask that someone point out where HeatPumps appear in Ti Tiriti.
      
      Does the NZ Government not comprehend that this is Racist, and, perversely, will result in negative attitudes towards Maori?
      
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      September 12, 2026 9:30am
      - Ghost
        
        here is the criteria
        
        You are eligible for free help if you have children living in your home and:
        
        you have a Community Services Card, or you have a low income
        there is a New Zealand citizen or resident living in the home.
        And you answer ‘yes’ to one of the following.
        
        Is there an individual with rheumatic fever (receiving bicillin injections) living in your house?
        Is someone pregnant or do you have a newborn baby in the house?
        Is your household overcrowded?
        Are there children between 0 and 19 years old living in your house who have been in hospital in the past with illnesses such as pneumonia, bronchiolitis, rheumatic fever, meningitis?
        Is your family receiving a benefit?
        
        Healthy Homes
        
        Does your son qualify?
        
        But it is warmer homes you need to apply to for a heatpump
        
        https://www.eeca.govt.nz/co-funding-and-support/products/warmer-kiwi-homes-programme/information/
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:36am
      - Taieri
        
        They did not qualify. Because they are not Maori
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        That’s rubbish. Only economic and health criteria are used to assess eligibility.
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:26am
      - Nikola Donatello
        
        “They did not qualify. Because they are not Maori”
        
        I don’t believe you. Show the criteria.
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:39am
    - David Garrett
      
      Yvette: Quite so. Remember when the Princess had no idea what was in Article I?
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:55am
      - kowtow
        
        She didn’t know any of the articles and it was jackson who prompted her through it.
        
        Now for a PM who made it her great schtick that was unforgiveable and had she been blue team it would never have been lived down .
        
        I recall her firstish day on the campaign trail after taking over from Little . She was asked about that day’s Reserve Bank meeting and agian was “blind sided” , didn’t know it was on.
        
        This was a woman promoted way beyond her abilities .and then actively protected by the wider media .
        
        We live with the terrible financial and social costs of that empty bobbing head , anointed by Peters.
        
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        September 12, 2026 11:48am
    - Handyman
      
      To be precise, The US Supreme Court made no ruling on abortion per se.
      It merely ruled that it was not a federal matter. The US is not a country with provences or counties. It is an agreement between individual states to cover things individual states cannot eg defence.
      The list of powers ceded by the states to the federal government is in the constitution. Anything not listed is deemed to be the responsibility of the states.
      Abortion falls in the same category as capital punishment. There are some who want the US supreme court to ban it for all states, but the supreme court refuses to take the case, regardless of its merits.
      
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      September 12, 2026 1:02pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      Supreme Court ruled Abortion was not in the Constitution
      
      In 1973 the Court had ruled, by 7–2, that the U.S. Constitution protected a woman’s right to have an abortion, at least under certain circumstances.
      
      So a 50-year old ruling was overturned.
      
      Whatever
      
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      September 12, 2026 1:16pm
      - Sir Henry Morgan
        
        Yes, but Roe vs Wade was a very dubious Supreme Court ruling. Basically the right to privacy was crowbarred into the ruling and forced to do some very heavy lifting to deliver a politically desired result that lacked any constitutional basis.
        
        So I’ve got no issue with Roe vs Wade being overturned. The Supreme Court needs to either come up with better constitutional arguments to support a right to abortion or pull its head in and leave the issue for individual states.
        
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        September 12, 2026 2:03pm
      - Cassandra
        
        No it didn’t. The right was to privacy, not abortion.
        
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        September 12, 2026 2:47pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        In general I disapprove of cut/paste from a bot, but this one is pretty short … my old mate chatgpt
        
        The important constitutional question wasn’t really “Is abortion morally right or wrong?” It was:
        Does the US Constitution give a woman a constitutional right to choose an abortion?
        
        The Roe majority said yes, deriving that right from the Constitution’s protection of liberty/privacy. So I guess we are both right … 🙂
        
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        September 12, 2026 3:12pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Sir Hank
        was a very dubious Supreme Court ruling
        
        It was a 7-2 ruling. It stood for 50 years … but if you say so it was dubious … It’s not all that often we get the benefit of such unequivocal well-qualified free legal advice from a anonymous blog poster …. 🙂
        
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        September 12, 2026 4:26pm
      - Sir Henry Morgan
        
        I studied Roe vs Wade at post-graduate level as part of a course on the history of US constitutional law. So I do actually know a bit about it.
        
        That only two justices voted against Roe vs Wade is separate to the fact that the arguments of the justices who voted in favor were pretty weak. Courts regularly make bizarre decisions – plenty of recent examples from New Zealand.
        
        I think it’s great that Roe vs Wade was overturned and states can now legislate for themselves. I think that partly because Roe vs Wade was a poor-quality ruling, and partly because I’m biased towards the devolution of power.
        
        Also, I’m not particularly anonymous.
        
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        September 12, 2026 9:03pm
- PurplePen
  
  This one is just really about whether NZ still needs a specialist Treaty inquiry body for day-to-day govt once historical claims done; or whether accountability for what govt does now needs to run through law/courts for every citizen. It’s a constitutional choice. It’s definitely not “ending the Treaty.” but gets conflated with that.
  
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  September 12, 2026 1:23pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

The tertiary education sector is yelping over Winston’s policy proposal to remove the automatic right to a work visa for overseas graduates from NZ institutions.

That whole conveyor belt has been such a scam. Buy yourself a work visa by paying overseas student fees for a crappy diploma or Bachelor’s. Way cheaper than a $5m golden investment visa, eh.

Me, I’d tweak the policy to allow a work visa following graduation with a Masters or a PhD from an institution rated in the top 200, worldwide, and leave it at that.
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September 12, 2026 8:38am
- kowtow
  
  It is a scam .
  The tweak required is for the “student” to return to their home country and apply from there , like every other potential immigrant.
  
  Master’s and PhD’s are a dime a dozen these days.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:00am
- Taieri
  
  allow a work visa following graduation with a Masters or a PhD from an institution rated in the top 200
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  In Aotearoa that would only leave Waipapa Taumata Rau.
  Ōtākou Whakaihu Waka would not qualify as it is just outside of the first 200.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:29am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    If it is increasingly marketed as Waipapa Taumata Rau it will fall out of the top 200.
    
    One thing that is notable. The brand of “New Zealand” is valuable internationally. All international focussed outfits keep it simple. Good example.
    
    https://www.beeflambnz.co.nz/
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:54am
David George

Twenty five years ago the Islamists attacked New York – now they have a communist Muslim as Mayor.

Brendan O’Neill: “This is what 9/11 exposed: the pre-existing self-hatreds of the West. It raised to the surface of our societies, like scum on water, our shame at being modern and powerful and enlightened and special. Some clocked the explosive impact 9/11 would have in terms of entrenching and worsening our moral malaise. Martin Amis called it an act of ‘horrorism’, of ‘maximum malevolence’, of ‘pure totalitarian evil’. All should have united against this ‘fantastic vehemence ranged against [America]’, he said. But we didn’t. We ermed and ahhed. We said the West has done bad things too. We said, ‘What about Vietnam?’. To hell with your moral equivalence, said Amis. Whatever the undoubted sins of the West, the ‘paranoid, irrational, death-loving, freedom-hating’ Islamist ideology is worse. He was right. Others were too. Yet their words, like the World Trade Center, crumbled and evaporated into the dust of history.

Twenty-five years on, our moral corrosion has worsened. Bin Laden is dead and al-Qaeda is a busted flush, yet on 9/11 those religious tyrants planted a seed that continues to grow. The seed of doubt. The seed of self-loathing. It was this disease of self-flagellation that was animated like Frankenstein’s monster 25 years ago. The West needs to learn to love itself again. For the 3,000 dead, for New York City, for civilisation itself, it’s time we reminded ourselves of our greatness. Say it with me: we are better than them.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/09/10/we-are-still-failing-the-moral-test-of-9-11/
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September 12, 2026 8:38am
- MCōs
  
  From the moment America attacked Iraq and then Afghanistan it was clear those terrorists who blew up the World Trade Center had won and are continuing to win.
  That guy who killed all the Muslims in Christchurch had thought he would start a similar chain reaction, but he wasn’t as smart as he thought he was and it didn’t happen
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:03am
  - David George
    
    If we are to defeat terrorists we need to understand their overall intent. What are/were the goals of the Muslim terrorists?
    Once people know (or, more correctly, admit) the answer to that there can be no compromise.
    It is, as Brendan points out, a monumental moral failure to forthrightly confront those that would destroy us.
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:28am
    - Ra Henare
      
      A Note David.
      I think you confuse Islamists (100 mill) with Muslims (2 billion). Think you will find your so-called terrorists are Jihadist and Islamist nutters. Not Generic Muslims.
      
      Its sort of like saying all Irish Catholics are terrorists because some were in the IRA and some of those committed acts of “”terror””
      
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      September 12, 2026 1:19pm
  - Sir Henry Morgan
    
    Or maybe the guy who killed Muslims in Christchurch was just responding to all the killings of non-Muslims by Muslims?
    
    People behave like it was such a shocking event, and to be fair it was. But do people really expect non-Muslims to sit around doing nothing as random Muslims keep massacring random non-Muslims in different countries around the world?
    
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    September 12, 2026 2:07pm
- Jethrod
  
  I wonder if said mayor had the gall to show up at the 25th commemoration?
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:34am
  - David George
    
    He was there giggling like a schoolgirl with AOC as the names of the fallen were read out.
    Sick fucks.
    
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    September 12, 2026 11:00am
- kevn
  
  DG… Check out the 2 pollies stance at the event.
  https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2098435641537114237
  
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  September 12, 2026 11:03am
- Ian Boag
  
  All Islamists are Muslim. Not all Muslims are Islamists ….
  
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  September 12, 2026 5:14pm
cas

An interesting article in a Herald supplement on Thursday about Ngai Tahu Holdings, which
as we know is the investment company of the Ngai Tahu Charitable Trust ( i.e. no taxes).
It made a surplus of $84 million, and has assets of $2.1 billion.

It is, of course, helped by the additional money it gets every five years to top up its original Treaty settlement. To date it has received $345 million in top up payments.

I wonder how many people who affiliate to Ngai Tahu are in food poverty?
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September 12, 2026 8:42am
- R
  
  ‘in food poverty’……NONE. as we are regularly told , Maori can look after Maori. ‘For Maori by Maori’.. is the chant.
  Is it working…?
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:32am
- peterwn
  
  And of course they would be exempted from Labour’s proposed Capital Gains Tax.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:53am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  As soon as my eldest brother became a Maori he enrolled with Ngai Tahu.
  
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  September 12, 2026 1:09pm
  - Colville
    
    I want to become Maori so I can access the iwi owned forests to hunt.
    But they really check carefully if a white boi applies 🤣
    
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    September 12, 2026 2:02pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There are 90,000 folk registered as Ngai Tahu.
  30 years ago there were just 29,000.
  
  https://ngaitahu.iwi.nz/connect-2/connect/news-and-stories/90000-and-growing-a-new-chapter-for-ngai-tahu/
  
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  September 12, 2026 2:48pm
  - kowtow
    
    There’s a joke down south , that’s not entirely in jest , that after the Nat’s big perpetual sell out to them , ( the 5th they got I do believe)end of ’90’s , that a huge number of blue eyed , blonds found very quickly that they too had maori ancestry…….
    
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    September 12, 2026 3:30pm
Simon

[Mod – give these stupid posts a break, and don’t try to turn someone’s death into a childish political attack]
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September 12, 2026 8:43am
artemisia

A tick on the report card for the Ministry for (Less) Regulation recommendations to simplify alcohol regs. Very sensible, all but one accepted by the government.

Nicole McKee –“Regulators need to stop treating hospitality businesses who want to sell alcohol like common criminals.”

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/alcohol-licenses-use-common-sense
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September 12, 2026 8:44am
Simon

Interest rates increasing are a train wreck for a massive debtor nation like NZ.

The party is over. Wellington Clown Show in denial.
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September 12, 2026 8:46am
- Damocles11
  
  Yes, Robbo saddled with a massive debt and he increased government spending by 80%, putting us on a trajectory to insolvency. A clown indeed.
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:26am
- Cassandra
  
  Wellington City Council Clown Show. Labour Mayor. Full of public “ servants “ on strike. Or working from home, but I repeat myself.
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:01am
- mandk
  
  But aren’t we lucky, Simon?
  
  Despite two recent small increases, the OCR is still only half what it was when the last government left office (2.75% vs 5.50%).
  
  Let’s talk about house price affordability, rents, food price inflation and the CPI as well.
  
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  September 12, 2026 2:12pm
Notsofast

Ed Milliband has selectively boycotted Israel, carefully not the medical and security services his wretched government relies on. Good luck with the notion the Islamic vote shoring up his party leads to a better UK.
I listened right through to this detailed analysis of so called settler violence, of course the conclusion is it is not the Jews causing trouble.

Jonathan Sacerdoti and Leo Dee, whose wife and two daughters were killed by Hamas, before 7 October.
61 minutes:

https://youtu.be/33Eaj-DSmr8?si=Ejyy4oXlCIkdm2uU
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September 12, 2026 8:49am
- mike
  
  Do you think the ‘settler’ attacks on Palestinians are imaginary?
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:24am
  - David George
    
    A lot of these attacks are apparently “tit for tat” exchanges.
    Palestinians steel livestock, Jews retaliate – that sort of thing.
    Having seen the complete BS from the Media on anything to do with Israel we should be a lot more circumspect on attributing fault.
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:35am
    - R
      
      Be very circumspect about anything reported in/or by our MSM!
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:16am
      - sungsamning
        
        When it comes to anything in the MSM; just assume the opposite.
        
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        September 12, 2026 12:41pm
    - Taieri
      
      A lot of these attacks are apparently “tit for tat” exchanges
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      “The United States ambassador to Israel condemned Israeli settler violence in the occupied West Bank again on Saturday, calling the behavior an “act of terror” as he visited with Palestinian American residents shaken by months of attacks.”
      
      “A week ago, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned the actions of a “handful of rioters,” and the foreign ministry called the settlers’ actions “a disgrace.”
      
      https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-ambassador-settlers-e33f8c97f368e7babd37c6d8c0a5759d
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:39am
  - pdm
    
    mikey do you think the continuous rocket attacks from Hamas and Hezbollah into Israel are imaginary?
    
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    September 12, 2026 9:44am
- MCōs
  
  “Ed Milliband has selectively boycotted Israel”
  No he didn’t
  UK Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband announced a government import ban on goods from illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank
  The West Bank is not a part of Israel
  
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  September 12, 2026 9:31am
  - Cassandra
    
    De facto. And it certainly used to be before Mohammed invaded. Do you understand Judea?
    
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    September 12, 2026 10:05am
    - Cassandra
      
      Mind you, Yemen and Mecca were once Jewish kingdoms.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:06am
      - kowtow
        
        cass
        
        Medina , not Mecca .
        
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        September 12, 2026 11:52am
      - mandk
        
        Don’t forget that God promised Abraham that his descendants would have a land from the River in Egypt, to the great river, the Euphrates (Gen 15:18).
        
        The Israelis are being too restrained.
        
        All together KBers, “From the river to the river, Israel’s land shall be forever!”
        
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        September 12, 2026 12:47pm
      - Taieri
        
        Using this sort of logic all the (former) tribes that settled over various parts of Europe during the Migration Period should not be there?
        Expel all descendants of Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Goths, Normans and Slavs and give the lands they currently occupy back to the Celts to whom they rightly belong. But what do we do about Sudovians? They are no longer there…
        
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        September 12, 2026 1:22pm
      - Cassandra
        
        Kowtow: ✔️
        
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        September 12, 2026 2:52pm
    - Bullion
      
      If it is, then why not give all citizens of the west bank equal treatment under law?
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:21am
      - kowtow
        
        Equal treatment under law ?
        
        But if those residents , or a very significant proportion thereof are committed to jihad , genocide and the overthrow of a sovereign nation founded on the basis of a pan European attempt to exterminate your ancestors ……..perhaps offering them tea and biscuits and a polite chat will solve things .
        
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        September 12, 2026 10:55am
    - I remember when
      
      Perhaps the UN could get the Waitangi Tribunal to adjudicate.
      
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      September 12, 2026 10:29am
      - david
        
        Nah, there are not enough business class seats on NY flights for that to happen.
        
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        September 12, 2026 5:09pm
Swifty

Plenty of hatred and racism within the TPM camp:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19DPHjDuxZ/

Pretty vile actually.
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September 12, 2026 10:05am
- Ghost
  
  instead of giving them publicity just report the post and the group
  
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  September 12, 2026 10:34am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Rubbish.
    
    It’s often informative finding out how other folk are thinking.
    
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    September 12, 2026 11:13am
    - Ghost
      
      rubbish, it’s better to report them and have them face the consequences of their posts which can lead to their account being banned.
      
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      September 12, 2026 11:14am
- imalwaysright
  
  Freedom of speech Swifty.
  
  They get to say what they want to, and we get to know how they think.
  
  That’s a good deal.
  
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  September 12, 2026 11:00am
  - Swifty
    
    No argument from me.
    
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    September 12, 2026 2:49pm
- Yvette
  
  Apparently the social media post refers to the August 2010 collapse of South Canterbury Finance (SCF), a major Timaru-based non-bank lender owned by Allan Hubbard.
  While the $1.775 billion gross payment figure is factually grounded, claims that it was a corrupt political favour or permanently exceeded all Treaty settlements are highly misleading.
  
  The payout was required by the Crown Retail Deposit Guarantee Scheme, which was actually introduced in October 2008 by the Labour Government (under Finance Minister Michael Cullen) to prevent systemic bank runs during the Global Financial Crisis.
  
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  September 12, 2026 12:27pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  How could that nice Hana be so mean? Aren’t they both young wahine looking to make a difference?
  
  Wait, so Chatterton is white and a Nat?
  
  Ah – that explains all the vile words.
  
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  September 12, 2026 3:37pm
  - Swifty
    
    It wasn’t the MP who wrote that, it was one of her supporters.
    
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    September 12, 2026 6:34pm
I remember when

Community raises funds for shot cat: Manawatu Standard.
“A severely injured cat that needs an eye removed has received a lifeline after donors raised nearly $2000 towards his care.
Odin, a black-and-white stray,…..”

Front Page of todays paper.

Perhaps they will show better judgement when it comes to casting their vote.
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September 12, 2026 10:15am
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  A stray? Just put it down.
  
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  September 12, 2026 3:37pm
I remember when

How is the banning of the use of Coal going?

The Iran War Is Pushing Global Coal Use to Record Highs: NY Times.
“Five years after virtually every world leader agreed to ‘phase down’ the burning of coal for climate reasons, the fuel is more widely used than ever.”
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September 12, 2026 10:45am
Nikola Donatello

Just listening to David Seymour on alcohol regulation. I wonder if he goes far enough. Personally I would scrap all “local” alcohol policies. I would have one national law that is streamlined. Focussed on heavy penalties for selling alcohol to those younger than 18 years old.

I would also have severe penalties for premises with grossly intoxicated people and feral behaviour. But that’s about it.

I would also vastly increase the availability of assistance for those with alcohol addiction who need help.

Disclosure. I have been one of those people.
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September 12, 2026 10:45am
Swifty

A ‘non-practicing white’:

https://x.com/mattwalshblog/status/2098499808897970291?s=46

That’s a new one on me.
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September 12, 2026 11:20am
Swifty

A thoughtful piece by Graham Adams on racial discrimination in our medical schools and the drive to indigenise our civil institutions by unelected officials.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1KEXfPNkGs/
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September 12, 2026 11:51am
kevn

If FENZ are involved it will be a cursed debacle…
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-fire-station-rebuild-begins-for-137m-replacement/ACP5MSAC5RHRTM2QYUQDD6R5EM/
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September 12, 2026 1:18pm
- kowtow
  
  It’ll have plenty of gifted arty panels etc …..
  
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  September 12, 2026 1:55pm
  - kevn
    
    kow… and a ….. ‘gifted’ name.
    
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    September 12, 2026 6:26pm
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  Despite what the link says, the number is actually $13.7m.
  
  But even that sounds a lot, given that most of the building will essentially be garaging for fire trucks.
  
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  September 12, 2026 1:58pm
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    mk… Indeed, big tilt slabs would be robust and functional. Bit industrial but…
    
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    September 12, 2026 6:27pm
Ghost

Harry Styles ticket criticised over 9/11 associations during New York shows

huh. So a taxi flying above the empire state building is making people complain about it because of 9/11
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September 12, 2026 1:24pm
Ghost

Hmmm, a new political poll. cannot work out who it is for, I’m going to guess by the question, greens

Would you support or oppose each of the following?

Banning the sale of energy drinks to people under 16
Banning salmon farming in New Zealand and its waters
Introducing a tax on sugary soft drinks
Breaking up the major supermarket chains into separate companies to increase competition
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September 12, 2026 2:21pm
Swifty

More social media vileness, this time from Tania Waikato from the communists Greens.

https://x.com/suitandtie9999/status/2098576518205358207?s=46

Yep, this is our politics now – telling everyone ‘F you and your family’ etc.
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September 12, 2026 2:47pm
AitchW

The younger, more radical MPs who are mostly Green and Maori members are, it would appear, trying to be the coolest kids by being as offensive as possible in the house and on social media.
One hopes they will look back in their later years and cringe, however I fear they will never mature.
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September 12, 2026 5:03pm
RdM

“Hmmm, a new political poll. cannot work out who it is for, I’m going to guess by the question, greens”

Could as well be for Labour too, given that they’re also in thrall to the Public Health lobbyists given access. National were targeted too re anti-tobacco in the stirring of John Key and Tariana Turia.

Each party then too lazy or ‘under resourced’ to do their own due diligence research, that might perhaps even show up contrary answers, results.

Great to see Casey Costello holding out somewhat.

Beware of Public Health Experts ! ;=})
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