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artemisia

A flurry of media reports refer to a “damning review” of the Education Ministry’s curriculum division. Have to say the survey results as reported do indicate some surveyed MinEd staffers come across as fragile and easily offended.

However, maybe this from the linked article gives a different and ideological take on unhappy staff:

Some participants said some former employees left because they had difficulty being politically neutral, the report said. “Some people spoken to were extremely passionate about their work, and the reviewer could see how this could give rise to an interpretation that they may not be willing to serve the government of the day if they disagreed with the decisions,” the report said.

Earlier reports mentioned staff were told to cut (some) Maori words in the curriculum documentation. Did I mention ideology?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/education/1558865/allegations-of-favouritism-unsustainable-workloads-at-education-ministry-s-curriculum-division
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September 25, 2026 8:08am
- mike
  
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  Cut some Māori words to appease the racists?
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:12am
  - CJames
    
    No – they cut the Maori words to make the documents readable where everyone could have an understanding of the words by their precise meanings, not some nebulous concepts. Same as what laws are supposed to do.
    
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    September 25, 2026 8:29am
    - Gravelroad
      
      Alleging racism is a handy way of shutting down debate.
      
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      September 25, 2026 8:32am
  - Cassandra
    
    They’d have to add Maori words to appease the racists.
    
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    September 25, 2026 8:39am
- Yvette
  
  FAI – for anyone’s information
  Independent workplace review of Te Poutāhū | The Curriculum Centre
  https://web-assets.education.govt.nz/s3fs-public/2026-09/Independent%20Workplace%20Review%20-%20Terms%20of%20Reference.pdf?VersionId=yeMPmsDfVPU4MYmByk5h6MhvgdW6RDpk
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:34am
David Garrett

Bloody cold out at Rancho Garrett this morning…9C.

Last night I had to re-learn how to start of good fire! Fortunately it’s like riding a bike…
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September 25, 2026 8:28am
- David Garrett
  
  Start A good fire…brain is a bit slow this am…still only 11 out here
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:37am
  - pdm
    
    You are lucky 7 in Hastings at the moment.
    
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    September 25, 2026 8:45am
CJames

What has happened to all those risks of thousands of deaths from use of Roundup? Mainly seemed to affect residents of leafy suburbs about council weed control from memory. Just like all the brain cancers from cellphones. Or are they things we aren’t supposed to talk about – consign to the memory hole – because they showed supposedly impartial scientists were actually leftwing activists?
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September 25, 2026 8:34am
- David Garrett
  
  CJ: Well said…I believe the list of “probable carcinogens” includes burnt toast.
  
  Out at the ranch I don’t bother with a mask when spraying Roundup…I certainly do bother when it’s one of those selective sprays which only takes out the broadleaf weeds.
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:39am
  - CJames
    
    DG you forgot red meat also being probable carcinogen. https://scienceinsights.org/is-red-meat-a-carcinogen-what-the-science-shows/ Forget the steak tonight.
    There is a very good site that goes into details about how there is a whole industry of activists manipulating cancer data to drive lawsuits
    https://risk-monger.com/
    
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    September 25, 2026 9:03am
- Cassandra
  
  Roundup has drawbacks. My best friend Harry, a delightful Jack Russell, died after contracting lymphoma , almost certainly from contact with Roundup.
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:43am
  - David Garrett
    
    Cass: Presumably you had an autopsy done on Harry? And the vet concluded that the lymphoma was from contact with Roundup?
    
    No to both questions I suspect…
    
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    September 25, 2026 8:47am
- mike
  
  The government’s ‘leftwing’ scientists have consistently approved the use of glyphosate, with the appropriate controls.
  
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  September 25, 2026 8:57am
  - David Garrett
    
    What are those “appropriate controls” Mike? do they include mask wearing?
    
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    September 25, 2026 9:03am
Maggy Wassilieff

Another informative column from Colinxy about the rise of DEI in the West and who benefits from DEI.

Why DEI Spread: It Is Bureaucratically Perfect

DEI is not about who you are. It is about how you can be used.

https://nominister.wordpress.com/2026/09/24/how-dei-became-the-wests-new-state-ideology/
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September 25, 2026 8:46am
Cassandra

Don’t be too dismissive of carcinogens. We’re learning all the time. My own cancers are possibly due to chemical exposure. People exposed as I was have a significantly higher incidence of cancer than those not exposed. Cancer is not much fun.
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September 25, 2026 8:50am
pdm

I went to Stuff to have a look at the IPSOS Poll I heard Mike Hosking referring to earlier this morning.

I could only find reference to an election in a mythical place called Aotearoa.

They must be having elections at the same time that New Zealand is.

Copy cats?
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September 25, 2026 8:51am
cmm (semi-retired edition)

In yesterday’s discussion there was a question as to whether or not people getting the Super should be means tested or not.

It really comes down to whether it should be viewed as an entitlement that everyone gets, or just another welfare entitlement only available to the poor/lazy.

From the day you start working in NZ (for me it was when I came to NZ at age 30), the “deal” was that you paid into the pot life long and then this formed part of your retirement income at age 65 (or whatever age).

Personally, I’d rather have opted out and paid less tax and pus aside my own retirement, but that deal was not on the table.

NZ Super has always been sold as an entitlement for everyone. If it was suddenly means tested then that would severely cut into many people’s retirement income.

Instead of thinking of it as the dole, rather think of it as something like our other entitlements.

Should we means test access to schools or hospitals (rich pricks don’t get to send their kids to state schools or go to hospitals)?

Perhaps no more access to DoC land or parks for people who are land owners (because they can just walk on their own land).

Yes, we have champagne living on a beer budget. NZ Super is part of the problem in the future, but that is not down to a few “rich pricks” getting back a tenth of the tax they are paying in super.

Bottom line is that high income people are not the people making the hole in the bucket. They are filling the hole. Stop being churlish.
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