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Yvette

Christopher Luxon faced a series of pointed challenges from Mike Hosking over his warnings that splitting the centre-right vote could help Labour form a government. The exchange raised questions about whether Luxon’s opposition to strategic voting is driven by the coalition’s electoral prospects or National’s own political interests..
Luxon argued that the vote-splitting campaign was primarily designed to increase ACT and NZ First’s influence in coalition negotiations …
Pressed on whether he feared National falling below its coalition partners, Luxon denied that was his concern, but acknowledged another priority. “I want that coalition to be dominated with the National Party,” he said.
https://centrist.nz/that-is-not-true-hosking-confronts-luxon-over-vote-splitting-claim-1793660649208?

“Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.” – Proverbs 16:18:
Luxon has been described as a “Christian fundamentalist”
So he will be aware of this
“I want that coalition to be dominated with the National Party” – he may have to settle for dominating the Opposition. Sadly.
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November 4, 2026 8:17am
- Flossie
  
  He- i.e. Luxon- may have nothing to do with dominating anything post election. In the event of a loss he’ll be history.
  
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  November 4, 2026 8:24am
  - pdm
    
    He may even be history if National wins thanks to the `electorate’ overhang Flossie.
    
    What leader can survive losing four of his top five list MPs?
    
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    November 4, 2026 8:28am
    - peterwn
      
      If National potentially has the ‘numbers’ after the election, his main task would be to put together a governing coalition. He has a track record of skills with this. Oncethis is done there would be very little appetite in Caucus to overthrow him. The last clown who tried that stunt (which may have cost National the election) is now languishing in the political wilderness.
      
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      November 4, 2026 8:57am
      - RoboRob
        
        Bishop still has a chance to get back in and Stanford will definitely be back. Mitchel is safe too. The guy in the political wilderness was the numbers guy.
        
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        November 4, 2026 9:00am
  - peterwn
    
    He could not care less. It is not as if he would be queuing up at the WINZ office. His main concern would be to facilitate an orderly leadership transition.
    
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    November 4, 2026 8:52am
    - Flossie
      
      I think he would care very much if he loses. His mana would be severely compromised.
      
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      November 4, 2026 8:54am
      - cmm (semi-retired edition)
        
        People like this fail upwards. Mana intact.
        
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        November 4, 2026 8:59am
      - RoboRob
        
        Agree, evidenced by how hard he fights to keep control.
        
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        November 4, 2026 9:01am
- Cassandra
  
  Luxon’s concern about the future of the National Party is understandable. I’d prefer he managed it better but that’s not his forté. My concern is the future of the country. One tick blue is the best way forward. And if you’re choosing between ACT and NZF for your party vote ACT is by far the better choice.
  
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  November 4, 2026 8:31am
- Rodney Hide
  
  I have never met Mr Luxon but have a theory about him. He was an extremely effective and successful corporate manager in the cut throat north american market.
  
  That suggests three things to me;
  
  1. He goes with what works over principle.
  2. He is very successful at managing people.
  3. He is vicious when challenged. He saw off two coup attempts. He’s not the softy he may appear.
  
  One of the many things I learnt in politics was never to underestimate people especially those with whom you disagree.
  
  Rodney
  
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  November 4, 2026 8:40am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yes.
    It is concerning that this week there has been an increased level of people on here seemingly actively lobbying against the National Party because they don’t like the current leader. Most of these people, I suggest, have not met Mr Luxon – but judge him anyway.
    Maybe time to think of what the next coalition might be like – led by Hipkins and the Greens.
    Would that be better for you?
    
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    November 4, 2026 8:50am
    - Flossie
      
      Most people hadn’t met Ardern either but made a judgment using information gleaned from msm and social media. In her case it was advantageous.
      
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      November 4, 2026 8:57am
  - pdm
    
    Rodney he was also lethal (may not be quite the right word) when his people supposedly stepped out of line.
    
    eg Maureen Puch, Andrew Bayly, Chris Penk and perhaps even Melissa Lee who as a Minister apparently came up with a broadcasting solution that was not acceptable to Luxon.
    
    He also looked after his loyalists – Goldsmith and Watts to name two.
    
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    November 4, 2026 8:51am
- peterwn
  
  It ain’t over till the fat lady sings.
  
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  November 4, 2026 8:49am
David George

Nothing to cheer about from last night’s poll, if that’s the way things turn out in the election we’re screwed.
We’re considering our options, as you do; what are others thinking?
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November 4, 2026 8:34am
- Flossie
  
  I’m really too old to emigrate if that’s what you’re talking about. I’ll just have to suck it up if the worst case scenario happens.
  
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  November 4, 2026 8:44am
Nukuleka

I don’t understand why ‘vote splitting’ has become such a hot topic. Since the introduction of MMP most voters with an ounce of nouce have understood and often practised it. By rabbiting on about it Mr Luxon has simply given the media the longed- for opportunity to proclaim dissension in the coalition ranks. It is, after all, an election, and naturally all parties, be they of the coalition or not will be seeking to maximise their party vote. I’m not sure why the leader of the National Party should be criticised for wanting National to achieve the largest percentage of party votes.
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November 4, 2026 8:43am
- pdm
  
  Before DG gets here.
  
  Would nouce be nous?
  
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