The Reagan Ranch
Friday afternoon we traveled up to the Reagan Ranch itself. Now this is a pretty great honour as it is not open to the public. It will open one day, but for now probably only a few hundred or thousand people have been there. This was more than just a ranch – he spent one eighth of his presidency here – it came to be known as the Western White House.
It is around 40 minutes out of Santa Barbara, and a very windy steep road takes you up to the ranch.
The ranch is around 600 acres, but is a very simple modest place. The main house is only 1500 square feet, and much of it was built by Reagan himself. We were told that the KGB commented when they came out there with Gorbachev that they would not understand how a country’s leader could live in such a simple house.
Nikki with the house in the background.
Myself with a nice view of the ranch. You get some idea of how high up we are here and how isolated. It is one of the most peaceful places on Earth.
The ranch entrance
This is in front of the house and is quite beautiful with its serenity
This man is John Barletta. He was one of Ronald Reagan’s closest friends, having been his secret service agent for 1eight years. He was a very good horseman and one of the few who could keep up with the President.
He has a wealth of tales about Reagan, his warmth, his sincerity, his sense of purpose. And also amusing stories of run-ins with the media such as where Sam Donaldson once suggested to Reagan that he only chopped wood for photo ops. They have a photo up on a pile of wood around five feet high that Reagan chopped in one day to show to Donaldson.
We spoke to John for over an hour. Again it was fascinating to speak to someone who was so close to a US President, and could deliver near unique insights.
The only new addition to the ranch (and out of sight from the main area) is the freedom wall where they list donors who have helped preserve it..
A great place for horse riding.
This plaque was put up by Reagan, and is meant to be typical of his humour.
I’m not sure if this concreting is also a sign of the same humour!
The jeep he used to drive around on.
Heh and the presidential seal on the lawn mower!
Tara was one of our guides for the day. She works for the Young America Foundation which purchased the ranch off Nancy Reagan. She was a great guide even though she admitted at one stage she didn’t know the answer to all the questions as normally she is their desktop publisher. This then led to people asking her about Macs vs PC, what software she uses and then the questions turned to her boots, her favourite music etc. The poor girl – she handled it all very well with great humour.
The red phone. You note it has no dial – only goes to one location.
The Kiwi contingent. Rob Good, Erica Slater, Shane Frith, myself and Nikki Kaye
You’re not allowed to take photos within the House. But Mrs Reagan has returned almost all their furnishings there so it looks identical to when they stayed there. Again quite small with two bedrooms and two living rooms.
The declaration agreed to by the participants. Pro free speech and free trade etc. There was an interesting debate in the terrorism section as to whether to use the term “evil”. It was eventually deleted as seen by some as having a religious significance which was not intended.
This is up by the old helicopter pad, with a view back into the valley.
And this is where Marine One used to land, if they were coming in by air.
We then finished the day having dinner at a local vineyard.
One of the great days. It is hard to put into words the deep connection one felt to the character of Reagan, as you saw his home and ranch, and thought about how that affected him and his decision. It was a near unique privilege, and without doubt was the highlight for everyone there.
If they ever open it up to the public, I’ll highly recommend anyone interested in politics visits it.
August 20th, 2006 at 1:42 pm
David Reagan as President was quoted as saying “In his opinon a nuclear war was winanble ..which is short say the guy was a raving Lunatic ..which the world is well rid off!
August 20th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
So the deification of an alzheimers addled ex-president continues. You know the right is out of ideas when an idiot like Reagan is their political idol.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:03 pm
Happily Reagan has someone left to carry on his legacy.
President Bush
Remarks to Reporters
19 August 2006
August 20th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Hey Dave, while you were there, did you tell the Reaganites you were a vocal supporter of the “Hero (ugh) Parade” and such events as “Boobs On Bikes”???
Just kidding.
Thanks for taking the time to post all of this stuff. Very interesting especially to a longtime Reagan fan like myself.. Anyone who can get up the snivelling left’s noses they way he did has to be a man worthy of the utmost admiration…
August 20th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Hey Dave, while you were there, did you tell the Reaganites you were a vocal supporter of the “Hero (ugh) Parade” and such events as “Boobs On Bikes”???
Just kidding.
Thanks for taking the time to post all of this stuff. Very interesting especially to a longtime Reagan fan like myself.. Anyone who can get up the snivelling left’s noses they way he did has to be a man worthy of the utmost admiration…
August 20th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Cheap shot Decentre…Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimers after the end of his presidency, but hey, the left still idolise Fidel Casto, organiser of concentration camps and imprisoner of homosexuals…so really, who is right out of ideas?
August 20th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Great photos…. Great day…. Catch you and Shane in LA if you make it past Vegas…. Play wheel of fortune and watch how much you put in the slot….
August 20th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
Great photos…. Great day…. Catch you and Shane in LA if you make it past Vegas…. Play wheel of fortune and watch how much you put in the slot….
August 20th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
It was a great day…. Nice photo of Tara by the way…:-) Have fun in VVegas and I’ll catch you and Shane if you make it out of there intact… Watch out for the wheel of fortune, it is a fun slot machine that takes all of your money….
August 20th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
Because I’m sure if a sitting president was diagnosed with a degenerate mental illness the Whitehouse would be more than candid about it. And that it was just a big concindence that in his second term Reagan gave the least press conferences of any US President, and that when he DID speak to the press he gave forth with unintelligible gibberish (‘The poverty rate has begun to decline, but it is still going up.’)
In his second term Reagan told numerous Jewish guests to the White House that he had personally liberated Death Camps from the Nazis (Reagan spent all of WWII in California making propaganda films), he gave a speech in honor of Princess Diana in which he repeatedly referred to her as ‘Princess David’. He frequently failed to recognise his cabinet members and aides and slept through most of his meetings. If his staff gave him cues or physical directions in the midst of his speeches he would read them out aloud.
While his advisors were busy embezzelling money, sending guns to Iran and funding death squads in South America, Reagan was riding his horsie around on his ranch, snoozing or watching television and eating jellybeans. He ran the most corrupt, incompetent administration in US history – more Reagan staff or appointees were convicted of crimes than all the other US administrations of the 20th century put together – and the right consider him a hero.
I cringe whenever I see people on the left wearing Che tee-shirts – or those ignorant dreadlocked assholes at protest rallies holding up pro-Hizbollah plackards – so its always nice to be reminded that the right has its sacred monsters as well.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Oh dear Danyl. Not just the right who see him as a hero. The vast majority of the US population rank him as one of the most sucessful Presidents ever, and he is most revered by those from Eastern Europe.
Dim can spout all the bile he wants, but history is the judge and I have absolutely no doubt than in 50 years time he will still be rated one of the great Presidents.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
Thanks for all the information Danyl, clearly it was a bad decision for Reagan to get Alzheimers. What was he thinking?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
david..is that..”..vast majority of the US population..”…that same vast majority of the u.s. population who believe there were weapons of mass destruction found in iraq…?
and yes..!..those same ones who believe iraqis ‘did’ 9/11..?..(not their ‘allies’ from jordan and saudi arabia….
just wondering….
and..”..no doubt than in 50 years time he will still be rated one of the great presidents…”
um..was that as already noted..?
‘cos “..he ran the most corrupt, incompetent administration in US history – more reagan staff or appointees were convicted of crimes than all the other US administrations of the 20th century put together…”
that last half is the ‘big one’..eh..?
his administration was so bent they couldn’t lie straight in their beds…
and that you choose to ‘idolise’ this bumbling/corrupt fool is all the more galling when you consider this ‘dangerous fool’ begat that other ‘dangerous fool’..bushie senior…who begat bushie jnr…(the biggest ‘dangerous fool’ of all..?..)
which brings us to this current ‘big pile of poo’ that is the world under bush…eh..?
what the feck is to celebrate…?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:56 pm
The vast majority of the US population rank him as one of the most sucessful Presidents ever, and he is most revered by those from Eastern Europe.
And many in the Middle East think Osama bin Laden and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are heroes – and that many people can’t be wrong!
Dim can spout all the bile he wants, but history is the judge and I have absolutely no doubt than in 50 years time he will still be rated one of the great Presidents.
Sadly for DPF my ‘bile’ and the rest of the administrations crimes – Iran Contra, the S&L scandal, the HUD scandal, the EPA and so on – are also documented historical facts.
Thanks for all the information Danyl, clearly it was a bad decision for Reagan to get Alzheimers. What was he thinking?
It’s sad when anyone contracts an awful illness like Alzheimers. It’s even sadder when it’s a politician and his administration chooses to conceal the fact that the nations leader is no longer competent to perform their job – but it’s downright pathetic to see people pretending that President Reagan – a sick, demented, confused old man – was some sort of genius philosopher king.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:13 pm
Dim – the bile is the more personal stuff you referred to. The fact some of his staff did wrong is as you say a fact. And IMO more than balanced by his achievements.
And there is a difference between opinions in areas where there is a free (and at times highly critical) press, and those where there is not.
And do you have any proof Dim that he had ALzheimers when in office, let alone it was covered up. The story should be worth a Pulitizer.
Those staff who worked with him, are very very clear about his mental powers (and now he is dead they could say otherwise). But hey what would they know compared to those who read about something in the Sunday News.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:35 pm
Dunno why the left would think any rational person would believe a word they say about Reagan or anyone after the transparent campaign of lies they have waged against George Bush, who although he’s unfortunately not up to the standard of Reagan, is another good and decent man who has had to suffer being smeared by a the lies of the cowardly hate driven totalitarian left.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
oh look..!..redbaiter is building up a head of steam….
bushie jnr…”…a ..good and decent man..”..tee-hee..!
and he is branching out into comedy…who knew..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 20th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
I say you’re the liar Phil. A cowardly liar at that. You could easily prove me wrong of course, by putting one “lie” from George W here. My old Granny always taught me that you never call anyone a liar unless you’re very sure of your ground. So put your best GWB lie here. As quoted with its source and date. One only, not three or four in the usual stunt you fuckwits pull to try and smokescreen the issue. Just one. Your best one. Let’s see who the liar is Phil. George Bush or you.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:00 pm
‘Redbaiter’:
‘We do not torture.
President Bush
Press Briefing
Panama City, Panama
November 7, 2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9956644/
The State Department’s annual human rights report released yesterday criticized countries for a range of interrogation practices it labeled as torture, including sleep deprivation for detainees, confining prisoners in contorted positions, stripping and blindfolding them and threatening them with dogs — methods similar to those approved at times by the Bush administration for use on detainees in U.S. custody.
State Dept. Study Cites Torture of Prisoners
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60540-2005Feb28.html
DPF:
Reagans various bizarre rants about UFOs, Nazi death camps, ‘Princess David’, the coming Apocalypse and so on were all made in his capacity as President – I don’t see how pointing them out is ‘personal’.
There is no proof – just dozens (maybe hundreds) of instances of anecdotal evidence. There’s an example from CBS White House correspondent Lesley Stahls biography:
Stahl describes a particularly unsettling encounter with Reagan in the summer of 1986: her “final meeting” with the President, typically a chance to ask a few parting questions for a “going-away story.” But White House Press Secretary Larry Speakes made her promise not to ask anything.
Although she’d covered Reagan for years, the glazed-eyed and fogged-up President “didn’t seem to know who I was,” writes Stahl. For several moments as she talked to him in the Oval Office, a vacant Reagan barely seemed to realize anyone else was in the room. Meanwhile, Speakes was literally shouting instructions to the President, reminding him to give Stahl White House souvenirs.
Panicking at the thought of having to report on that night’s news that “the president of the United States is a doddering space cadet,” Stahl was relieved that Reagan soon reemerged into alertness, recognized her and chatted coherently with her husband, a screenwriter. “I had come that close to reporting that Reagan was senile.”
Taking a look at the big picture, we see a massive transformation from Reagan as the Governer of California – a role in which even Reagan-haters like me have to admit he excelled – and the dazed and confused invalid of his second term, about whom Margaret Thatcher remarked ‘Poor dear, there’s nothing between his ears.’
The whole truth will probably never be known.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:01 pm
let’s start with “..that man saddam hussein has weapons of mass destruction..”
“..while we are in afghanistan we will eradicate the scourge and evil that is heroin…”
“..i have never used cocaine…”
“yes..i completed all my required national guard duties..”
“..i will ‘get’ osama bin laden..”
“..this administration is committed to protecting our environment..”
“..this war is not about oil..”
“..the iraqi people will welcome us and the democratic freedoms we bring them..”
“..the war is over..victory is ours..”
(3 yrs ago..)
do you need more..?..oh outraged redbaiter..?
of course..other contributions/bush lies are welcomed…
(he did ask..eh..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 20th, 2006 at 9:17 pm
You couldn’t do it could you Phil??? I gave you such simple criteria and you caved just like the weak loser you’ve always been. You’re just one more gutless yellow backed pro terrorist smear merchant. …and what’s really funny Phil, out of all the lies you scumbag Bin Laden loving dirtbags could try and pin on Dubya, all the lies you claim he told to justify the Iraq war, by the second false accusation, you’re on to allegations regarding heroin use from his distant past. You’re hopeless Phil, and you always will be, just feeble weak yellow backed smear merchants, allies of terrorists, murderers, totalitarians, kidnappers and barbaric beheaders and without a fact to wipe your gutless fat useless arse with…
August 20th, 2006 at 9:36 pm
“Margaret Thatcher remarked ‘Poor dear, there’s nothing between his ears.’”
And now, poor dear, there’s nothing between her . . .
Dog forbid that I should aid the forces of darkness by casting doubts on the dear old Gipper’s boundless cognitive powers. That hair- like hot buttered yak wool!
Just lay off Harry Potter, you party poopers.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
Daryl:
You ignorant twat, Alzheimer’s is not a “degenerate mental illness” but a degenerative neurological disorder. If you don’t know the difference, please shut the fuck up until you know what you’re talking about. My father and maternal grandfather suffer from this condition, and it would have been a lot easier to deal with an already horrifying situation if your igonrance was the exception rather than the rule.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:46 pm
Redbaiter
Fascist nazi kiddie fucker. Every post you have made here has just been an ugly convulsive rictus, vomitting vile malodourous drivel. You have not one single idea to contribute, not a the slightest hint of rationality, just the grotesque rantings of a maelevolent pus-soaked toilet bowl licking dickwad. Your whole existence is an traumatising mortification to the right and serves as a warning to others. Go shove your mendacious balderdash up your arse…cos every time you take a shit your IQ plummets another percentage point or two.
Take up necrophilia for a hobby, it’ll get you the public attention you are obviously craving, without quite the same degree of revulsion or disgust that you are arousing with your current antics.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:52 pm
And “Fascist nazi kiddie fucker” followed with such compelling discourse as “Take up necrophilia for a hobby” would be what sort of contribution exactly?
Dave steps outs for two minutes and it’s soiled leftist nappies for Africa.
Hell if he lut up an open thread it would become instan’t prove of some Zionist/right ing plot within seconds.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
No coconut DIM. Leftist/ Democrat sympathisers in the State Department defining torture down to include such horrific events as forcing terrorist murderers and barbarians to wear panties on their heads doesn’t cut it. Still, at least you had a go according to the criteria, (which shows that surprisingly for a leftist, and unlike the waste of time and space Phil, you can actually read and comprehend) You need to watch those videos of Saddam’s henchmen at work chopping off hands and slicing people’s stomachs so their entrails fall out, and then think again about the definition of torture. ..and once again, your claim is self defeating considering the bulk of the left’s smear campaign against Dubya is focused on alleged lies to justify the war on Iraq.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
And, of course, no Kiwiblog thread about Reagan is complete without Craig showing up and throwing a temper tantrum in an attempt to shut down debate or change the subject. Admirers of his work can see another fine example here.
And, briefly, one of the primary symptoms of Alzheimers (and certainly one presented by President Reagan) is dementia which is considered a mental illness by the US Surgeon Generals office and most psychiatric organisations.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:42 pm
Actually Redbaiter, Phil_U is worse than that.
Here lies a man (I use the term broadly) that for over a decade has been unable to take the world head on (yes he is gutless isn’t he). Instead he chooses to leach off the New Zealand tax payer because unlike other sole parents who work, he wants to be home at 3pm every day to see the state funded smile on his boys face when he picks him up from school. This is why he hasn’t been able to find a suitable job as yet and continues to demand more financial support from those he so clearly despises. That must truly be awful for him.
If you question Phule why you should be forced by law to clothe, feed and house this parasite and his children before you are legally allowed to do the same for your own family he simply will call you greedy (not a rational argument). Yet this self professed University Master can’t even see the irony of calling someone selfish and greedy as he simultaneously (big word Phil, sorry about that) takes another weeks income that was earned off the back of some one else, while he stays at home, smokes pot, lets someone else educate his children (a good thing in this case) and plays around with his less than average tax payer funded web site. Please note that my commentary is based on what he has published about himself; are you still living “a lifestyle that can only be categorised by a lack of opportunity” Phil?.
The thing is, he holds the moral high ground on all of us, or so he believes.
With that in mind, you wouldn’t expect for him to grasp what President Regan did for the world, it’s beyond this fellows reach. You simply can’t understand Regan, and at the same time feel good about being on welfare for over a decade.
Best we give this poor fellow a break, he’s what the left generally refer to as a ‘useful fool’; but he’s equally as useful for us because he stands as an icon for the very reason welfare in NZ needs to be massively reformed, and by virtue of nearly every time he writes (I use that term broadly as well) instead of criticising personal freedom, he gives us every reason to ensure that NZ becomes a country of individualists, and not collectivists.
So I say, keep writing Phil_U, both sides need you….. eh?
August 20th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you lucky bastard.
I still reckon the Nixon compound is more interesting however.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Daryl:
Yes, and where would the lives of the around 20,000 New Zealanders affected with Alzheimer’s – and their families – be without ignorant idiots like you? While I’m sure you’re enjoying taking a cheap and ill-informed shot at a dead man, with a healthy dollop of conspiracy nutting, there are tens of thousand in this country whose lives are hard enough without being ignorantly written of as “mentally ill”.
If you want to play doctor around here, just try knowing what you’re blathering on about. God knows there’s enough people around who confuse a Google toolbar with a real medical qualification.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:13 am
Daryl:
Yes, and where would the lives of the around 20,000 New Zealanders affected with Alzheimer’s – and their families – be without ignorant idiots like you? While I’m sure you’re enjoying taking a cheap and ill-informed shot at a dead man, with a healthy dollop of conspiracy nutting, there are tens of thousand in this country whose lives are hard enough without being ignorantly written of as “mentally ill”.
If you want to play doctor around here, just try knowing what you’re blathering on about. God knows there’s enough people around who confuse a Google toolbar with a real medical qualification.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:32 am
oh no..!..i’m being ‘gangeg-up on by redbaiter and seanj..
(btw…seanj’s a lawyer …who runs ‘resthomes’..pays minimum/expoitive wages..auto-eroticises over mercedes benz..(as in driving around with only one hand on the wheel…you know how it goes…)
anyway..i’d forgotten about him…i gave him a severe ideological ‘bitch-slapping’ some months back…and not ‘peep’ since then…(he must have re-girdled his loins..eh..?)
you just ‘shine on’…you crazy diamond…
btw..seanj…after all this months you’ve had brooding/recovering..that was the best you could come up with..?…just yr old/standard sole-parent bashing routine …eh..?
do us all a favour..get a new one..eh..?
(b.t.w…consider yourself ‘bitch-slapped again..eh..?..)
go on..!..off you go now..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 21st, 2006 at 7:08 am
ROTFLMTO
When I read about the fool who teaches his child that being a begging crim (by his own confession) “bitch slapping” some-one. Still waiting you gutless worm. I gave you the address. Where are those lawyers and heavies I was threatened with? And Dim. Grow up.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:56 am
You know what I like best about Regan…
The mouth-foaming pavlovian response you get from leftists as soon as you mention his name.
Keep it up guys (Dim and Phule especially).
August 21st, 2006 at 9:16 am
Sean- I know Phil is worthless, I was merely using him to illustrate my point. I knew he wouldn’t be able to justify his hate driven lies and false accusations. He’s a leftist, and the defining characteristic of almost all Nomenklatura type leftists is that they’re stupid. Most of them have sub 100 IQs overlaid with twenty of thirty years of socialist indoctrination in NZ’s so called “schools” and “universities”. As a subset of the Nomenklatura, you have the other kind of leftist, the poor down trodden sub classes who are kept in the dark and fed bullshit, victims of the left’s power structure, and always present in any leftist social construct, for they are the stepping stones the left need to get to the power that is their utmost obsession. Phil, with his inability in reading and comprehension and his gormless devotion to the current leftist smear campaign against George Bush, most likely falls into the second category.
Leftists commonly use smear campaigns to discredit their political opponents. They used them against Ron Reagan and they are using them against George Bush. (and Don Brash too- I remember the first comment I read from a leftist when Don Brash became leader of National was that his glasses made him look like a Nazi..!!) ). The laugh is that with their media plants and their academic subversives leftists have the network in place to conduct propaganda campaigns that make Goebbels and Adolf look like rank amateurs.
Its a strategy that has worked too. I was shocked on returning from overseas to observe what an iron grip the power crazed left have today on NZ’s culture. If we are ever going to be free of these Soviet style socialist scum, that grip has to be broken. Its relatively simple to confront them, because everything they say and do is an immoral deceit, (and their credo, “from each according to ability, to each according to need” is merely a euphemism for theft). The left will accept you if you play along with their deceit, and if you argue prissily over the pros and cons of their many schemes to rob and exploit and cling to power, but if you ever confront them head on, as Ron Reagan did, (and George Bush has done to a degree), you will earn their hate and you will be a target for their rancour and their lies and their false accusations and you will be tried in their kangaroo courts and you will be banished to their gulags. They will do all of these things, but they’re wrong there too, because all it does is make us stronger. Ron Reagan hurt them. George Bush is hurting them. When they come at you with their traditional big gun strategies, their cowardly attempts to discredit and smear, you always have the satisfaction of knowing that you’re getting to them.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:40 am
DPF, set my mind at rest and assure me that:
1. the definition of “young” is Reagon’s age during his 1st term.
2. none of the NZ contingent are there at the tax payers’ expense.
Redbaiter, you are a card. You could read Donald Regan’s account of his time as head of the Treasury and then Chief of Staff in that administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Regan). The best bits are Nancy organising Ronnnie’s non-existent public appearences through the advice of a clairvoiyant in California.
The other best bit is that he (Regan) was totally opposed to the flat tax madness that is in such vogue with freedom lovers today. Then again, I doubt that reading is encourage in your cirlces, too likely to expose you to things like, you know, facts.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:41 am
hmmm..?..i wonder what happened to the response i posted an hour or so ago…?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 21st, 2006 at 9:59 am
“You need to watch those videos of Saddam’s henchmen at work chopping off hands and slicing people’s stomachs so their entrails fall out”
Well now we know what floats RB’s boat.
David, does the ranch have an El Salvador memorial room? anything about the heroic Contras?
August 21st, 2006 at 10:08 am
great pictures. thank you for sharing them.
tom
August 21st, 2006 at 10:14 am
great pictures. thank you for sharing them.
tom
August 21st, 2006 at 1:58 pm
More importantly – will Nikki be participating in the Queen St bike parade?
Just asking, no reason.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:41 pm
Noddy – no-one is there at taxpayer expense. Well not NZ taxpayer anyway.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:53 pm
ah..david…are you being ‘sponsored’ by some sort of ‘freedom foundation’..?..by any chance..?
do tell…(i’m sure i’m not the only one who would like to know…)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
August 21st, 2006 at 10:10 pm
My god you’re a handsome man David.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:44 am
Phil – it is no one’s interest but my own, but as it happens I am meeting all travel and accom expenses myself.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:56 am
You hear that phil? Someone actually paying for something themselves, making their way overseas without it being part of some taxpayer funded junket or hiphop tour, you fucking prat.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:44 am
long live the king