Zaoui “no longer a security risk” Add this story to Scoopit!.

At 3 pm the SIS announced Ahmed Zaoui is no longer considered a security risk, and they have removed the security risk certificate against him.  This means Zaoui is now a resident of New Zealand as a legal refugee.

I am not completely surprised by this.  It has been apparent for some time that the original certificate was done primarily or totally on the basis of the fact he had terrism related convictions in France and Belgium, and had been deported from Switzerland and excluded from the UK.  That sort of background is entirely appropriate to have the warning bells activated for.

But that is a slightly different issue to actually being a security risk to New Zealand itself, as opposed to merely undesirable (refugees must be accepted whether or not they are undesirable).   With no network for former GIS activists, like there was in Europe, no colonial ties to Algeria, and also the profile from his case, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that he is today not a threat in NZ.

The unfortunate thing is how long this has all taken.  Cases should be decided in months not years.  Hopefully the changes to the Immigration Act will stop there from being a repeat of this very expensive very time consuming process.

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  1. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Absolutely brilliant news. Totally about time!

    Its a shame the government can never ever back down on anything.

  2. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Usually that is.

  3. Sam Dixon (630) Says:

    It was also so obvious they had no case and were dragging their heals.

    You can always tell when they have nothing, they dissemble and say ‘oh there’s all this classified stuff we can’t tell you (bollocks, 90% of secret stuff is secret because of the source or the government’s analysis, the info itself can usually be accessed publically elsewhere) – if they had had real evidence, they would have publicised the powerful stuff and they would have been quick to pursue the process.

    Instead, 5 bloody years, no evidence, constantly delaying the process in the hope that, what evidence would magically appear

    .. and Justice Neazor, whose job it was to review the security risk certificate and who let the SIS delay the hearings for over a year only to then, finally, admit they had nothing, – pathetic, weak old man who allowed an unjust situation to continue.

  4. CraigM (668) Says:

    “no longer a security risk””

    Does that mean we have to listen to that Dave Dobbyn song for the next few weeks?

    I had no idea that we could not reject refugees on the grounds of undesirability. I’m not sure I’m happy with that.

    A convicted criminal in 2 countries. Deported from another and excluded from one more . All ‘western’ countries that we would consider friends. But NZ is now home?

    Is anyone else concerned about the floodgates that just opened?

  5. red neck (64) Says:

    shit a new arab taxi driver prior to the new job at massey uni, plus his extended family, plus assorted camels ,future islamists , his village,THE DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS continues for witchy helens govt , ps the F## ken millions this shitty arab has cost us probably was the few dollars that could have been used to save my mother in laws leg, so you tossiers in dorkland can dance , and sing welcome home ,BUT THE UNWASHED MASSES HAVE THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND DECISIONS, at the next election

  6. JohnMacc (60) Says:

    Get over the hysterics CraigM. This guy’s a legit refugee who’s been through the system and had that status confirmed. There was no doubt about that. Good that the SIS could finally decide they’d played for time long enough that they thought they could change their minds now without looking like the fools they have been on this case. Agree with DPF that we’ve all got to hope this procedeural farce need never be repeated.
    Welcome to your new home Ahmed and family!

  7. Sam Dixon (630) Says:

    And Red Neck lives up to his name.

  8. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Red neck, are you aware that generally ‘redneck’ is a derogatory term aimed at xenophobic types, such as those who hang onto tired stereotypes eg: that all Islamic people are terrorists?

    If it weren’t for “tossers in dorkland” a completely innocent man would still be in limbo, because a mindless few idiots who still fear this “shitty arab” bullshit.

  9. Sam Dixon (630) Says:

    CraigM – he was accepted as a refugee by the relevant suthority, that acception was blocked by the SIS issuing a Security Risk Certificate – they were eventually forced to have this reviewed by a Judge (Justice Neazor) but they dragged their feet on that until now, when hearings were set to begin, and finally admitted the Certificate was not justified.. that done, the acceptance of his applcation for refugee status, isued by the competant authority in 2003, stands.

  10. Michaels (1,296) Says:

    Its a fucking disgrace!! now watch him join Keith in the Greens!!

  11. red neck (64) Says:

    PS DORKLANDERS he is free to go home, ALGERIA its safe,deport the EX terrorist ,yesterday he was a threat ,to , TODAY hes suddenly not a threat, helen you will drop more points, send him home to his BIRTH place

  12. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Oh how awful it would be if someone exercised their democratic rights (in this case complete conjecture) huh Michaels?

  13. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Is that what we should have done to your ancestors Red neck? They were probably escaped/released convicts from Australia the way you’re carrying on. And I’m from Wellington actually.

  14. mara (333) Says:

    NZ blinked first …. he won. I’m disgusted.

  15. red neck (64) Says:

    J,M i dont give a shit ,do you think that i care about your thoughts , its not tattood on my forehead,( dumbarse liberal, or terrorest arab lover), ps i would go with the french case, algeria is nice at this time of the year,go back (az) to your birth place

  16. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    No I don’t think you care, I just wonder if your xenophobia could be taken elsewhere. Assuming “az” addresses me (to be fair, your grammar isn’t amazing) I’d like to point out I was also born in Wellington.

  17. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Oh wait, my bad. It means Ahmed Zaoui :P

  18. John Dalley (394) Says:

    Red Neck. Sure your not Mass-debaiter in drag!

  19. Thrash Cardiom (200) Says:

    Nah. It’s Dad4Justice in sneaky disguise.

  20. Brian Smaller (3,407) Says:

    I am sure that that hook handed bastard in England, Abu Hamza al-Mazri, was a smiling, genial nice guy as well when he applied for refugee status. Now he is calling for the destruction of Western socieyy and the imposition of Sharia Law in England, consorts with terrorists and preaches mass murder (for which he is serving some prison time at long last).

    I can’t wait to hear Zaoui makiong some explicit condemnation of the worst apsects of his particular cult’s belief system that are particularly incompatible with a free, secular society….oh sorry…it won’t happen.

    He should have been excluded from this country on the grounds of his radical Islamist background, let alone any little things like convictions in two or three European countries.

  21. Peter Bickle (35) Says:

    Yeah Right

  22. Mike (162) Says:

    Now he is calling for the destruction of Western socieyy and the imposition of Sharia Law in England, consorts with terrorists and preaches mass murder

    Compared to calling for the destruction of easter soceity, imposition of fundementalist chirstain law, consorting with pedofiles and committing mass murder…

  23. Mike (162) Says:

    opps, eastern society

  24. Andrew Bannister (213) Says:

    Red Neck. Sure your not Mass-debaiter in drag!

    No, red neck used to go by the names (among others I am sure) “Mr.I. P. Freely”, “Maud,Dib” and “iwikiwi”. The word “tossier” (which still isn’t a word) and random use of capitals gave that way.

  25. JesusCrux (88) Says:

    Red Neck = Peter Quixote = Paul Scott?

  26. metcalph (749) Says:

    People might want to read this for more information about Zaoui.

  27. mara (333) Says:

    While you fools play “who pisses the highest”, we have another radicalised Muslim settling in NZ. Of course this media lovvie has kept his nose clean in his time here. He is more patient and smarter than the idiots who made ludicrous statements in his favour today. Will he blow up the harbour bridge? No… he’s probably too busy attending events and being seen with Dobbin and co. But this Govt. has been outsmarted by a single man ,his trusty brief and a very credulous minority of folk who imagine that if someone looks innocent,then they must be so. Give me strength!

  28. rfhoward (326) Says:

    I don’t mind him being allowed to stay. I do however object to the money spent arguing his case. I believe he has cost us somewhere between $2 and $5 million dollars. Refugees have no rights in New Zealand. They should have no right to use our justice system at all. They should be subject to a final decision of the minister or appropriate government department. There can be place for an appeal but it should be limited to one quick revue by an independent authority. Only when they have been accepted and given residency should they have access to the courts.

  29. casual watcher (289) Says:

    It is official now – NZ is a nation of spineless soft cocks who will not enforce their own laws. This prick is still an illegal immigrant and he should be gone.

  30. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    No, he’s a perfectly legal immigrant who the SIS inexplicably got poop-scared of.

  31. metcalph (749) Says:

    Jaz,

    Do you consider regularly meeting the GIA treasurer and being in the same car as the GIA armourer at the Swiss border not to be grounds for worry?

  32. adam2314 (211) Says:

    There is some thing a little inconsistent about his manner that does not fit his past.

    A little to smarmy for my liking

  33. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Not really, no. We let in American diplomats all the time, and they’re a far greater security risk than Zaoui, who is claimed to have met the GIA, most likely by the scam dirt bags that gave him the security risk certificate in the first place.

  34. metcalph (749) Says:

    We let in American diplomats all the time,

    So American diplomats are more evil than Algerian terrorists?

    Zaoui, who is claimed to have met the GIA, most likely by the scam dirt bags that gave him the security risk certificate in the first place.

    Zaoui admitted meeting the GIA. What part of that do you not understand?

  35. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    And Key met the Brethren.

  36. Steve (2,158) Says:

    Watch this space in 10 years time. This is a huge mistake.
    People who arrive with no passport do it for a reason. The namby pamby’s never see the big picture.
    Sleeping cells come to mind. The message will come and look out New Zealand.
    If Zaoui’s family also come here, I want to see them working and paying tax. Not a Govt job, but real work, like actually produce something other than spread the religious BS.
    Let’s face it, this is a political football that shoud never have been started.
    GO HOME ZAOUI NOW!!!!

  37. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    Oh come on? Because they’re Muslim immigrants they’re instantly dole bludgers? Get off your high horse, please.

  38. metcalph (749) Says:

    I’m not aware of the Exclusive Brethern committing terrorist activities. Could you please list them?

  39. Steve (2,158) Says:

    jaz.morris
    Illegal Immigrants, no passport OK?

  40. Steve (2,158) Says:

    Come on jaz.morris,
    Would you let a person into your home without your authority???

  41. JohnMacc (60) Says:

    Jaz, you may as well give up. There’s a particular breed of xenophobic muslim-hating hysterical trolls that inhabit posts like this in DPF’s otherwise fairly sane community of blog commenters.
    You’d be better off spending your time writing to congratulate Deborah Manning and her colleagues. Its lucky for AZ that he had the lawyers he did. Many others would have been intimidated or otherwise encouraged to let this one go.

  42. Steve (2,158) Says:

    Pity I can’t insult to the weasles here.
    DPF may ban me on what I have to say about the snivellers

  43. Steve (2,158) Says:

    jaz,
    you didn’t answer the question.

    Would you let a person into your home without your authority???

  44. simo (112) Says:

    Islamic colonisation by stealth, instead of Christian colonisation by the missionary position, the problem is that Islamic colonisation will kill us, the missionary position will not. Take your pick and grab your shotgun, the Serbs were onto it!!!!

  45. The Perfect Man (88) Says:

    A Q. Why could Zaoui not stay/settle in Malaysia where he had already been for some years? He was not persecuted there its seems, as his family carried on living there ok when he was claiming refugee status here. They weren’t in prison etc. If he was persecuted in Malaysia – why was that? He is a Muslim and Malaysia is a seriously pro-Islamic country. One thinks he would have been very happy there.

    His whole claimed reason for being here doesn’t hold water for me. If its for a better standard of life materially than he could have had in Malaysia then he’s a liar and not a refugee fleeing persecution as he claimed and so no case. Even if he was a bona fide refugee why should we look after him when his fan damily were safe in Malaysia? Why can’t Muslims help their own?

    P’raps I am mistaken – could someone enlighten me? I confess to not having followed his case closely (I was in East Africa 1996-2004 and missed the initial stories etc).

    Slightly different tack now but –

    Why is it that wealthy Muslim countries like Saudi, Qatar, UAE etc who are cash rich but short of labour will not take Somali etc refugees. They need help, they are Muslim. They would not be far from their home country. But they are silent. Muslims don’t help them out.
    No, Arabs are racist, they don’t view African Muslims as equals. They are smart and would rather import labour and then export it as soon as the building etc is done. They don’t want the, even more warlike than Arab, Somali’s settling in their home country.

    I’m all for helping refugees. But much wisdom is needed. I think Labour likes extending its voter base and of course it scored mass brownie points with the UN.

  46. JohnMacc (60) Says:

    I suspect you’re right Perfect Man – when this govt’s done anything significant about refugees its been as a political publicity stunt – for Clark’s “global stateswoman” delusions or to poke at the Australians at electorally opportune moments. On the occasions when they’re presented with a politically difficult opportunity to demonstrate the Labour Party’s supposed historical values and principles, this lot run for cover as they have with the Zaoui case.
    I share your question about why the wealthy Muslim states are so uncharitable to muslim refugees. Its not individual Muslims who act this way – charity is an important part of the faith (yes there’s racism aplenty – but there was here a generation or two ago also). Some muslim countries like Jordan, Iran and Pakistan have all taken in uge numbers of refugees. But they all have at least some disfunctional semblance of accountability to their people. Its the rich monarchies that don’t even pretend to have a popular mandate who sit by and watch. More a political than religious phenomenon, I suspect.

  47. Sam Dixon (630) Says:

    rfhoward –

    “Refugees have no rights in New Zealand. They should have no right to use our justice system at all. They should be subject to a final decision of the minister or appropriate government department.”

    the executive must be subject to the independent review of the judicary, otherwise we effectively have a dictatorship. you display a dismal understanding of how our system of government works.

  48. emmess (958) Says:

    Zaoui stays
    Panah goes
    What sort of fucked up system is that?
    If Zaoui has any sense of fairness, he’ll offer to move to Iran in Ali Panah’s place and give him his place here.
    I am sure Zaoui will fit in perfectly there

  49. Castafiore (263) Says:

    Do it the US way any murmur of a problem back to where you came from and appeal against the process from there at you own expense. Unless it is political asylum and I don’t recall him applying for that!!!!

    In NZ if there is the merest hint of anyone that has criminal or drug offences in their history off they go home – then we open our arms to a terrorist.

    Another Classic move by Dear Leader to ensure that the Green Party is kept on side especially with their vote becoming all the more pivotal .

    Keith Locke the champion of all terrorists and false refugees except I will give im a bouquet about challenging Helen about not standing up to the Chinese. Of course cuddling up to the Yellow Peking Snake will help with backing her UN Sect – Gen
    attempt which is getting closer now that Goff is bristling his feathers.

  50. natural party of govt (461) Says:

    “With no network for former GIS activists, like there was in Europe, no colonial ties to Algeria, and also the profile from his case, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that he is today not a threat in NZ.”

    I love the way conservatives cant resist tooting on the ol’ racist dog whistle.

    Not only is there no network for former GIS activists there is zero evidence he was a GIS activist. And a lot of evidence he wasnt.

    But as they say a lie is half way around the world while truth is still putting her shoes on.

    Just another reason why I loathe, absolutely loathe all politicos.

  51. red neck (64) Says:

    Mr Farrar, how many more weeks till D4J, comes back. I am certain jaz.morris is him writting under another name but i could be wrong, jaz.morris are you d4j

  52. natural party of govt (461) Says:

    From the signed declarations

    “* I will not publish in any form any statements that could be interpreted as promoting violence. [blanked out]. If I am unsure about whether a proposed statement might be interpreted this way I will consult first with the SIS.”

    Well sod me. It looks like he wont be allowed to promote the Iraq invasion or the coming attack on Iran.

    He will be devasted.

    This is bit like Stalin accusing Churchill of being too paranoid.

  53. Andrew W (1,629) Says:

    “I am certain jaz.morris is him writting under another name ”

    Rubbish! Castafiore is D4J I tell you!

  54. Lee C (4,120) Says:

    It makes me smile how much New Zealanders are wrapped up in this character, Those against him have a great case – he lied to get in. Full-stop. Those who support him have a case – He is a genuine refugee. Full-stop. My take? While all the kiwis et excited about Zaoui, they miss the obvious (to my mind) and fail to ask this question? ‘WHy is he interested in living in New Zealand?’ Answer “he isn’t!” Once he gets his passport here, and has the right to get his family to join him, he will be on the first available plane to Australia.

  55. Lee C (4,120) Says:

    he will probably cite racism inNew Zealand as his reason for fleeing.

  56. Reg (504) Says:

    I’ve always found it interesting that Zaoui was cared for by members of a Catholic order.
    Could you imagine the Muslim Brotherhood looking after the daily needs of a Christian missionary seeking enterance into Egypt?
    Andrew W said:
    Castafiore is D4J I tell you!
    Could well be they both have their hearts in the right place, but a style similar to an intoxicated Rhinoceros!

  57. sonic (2,818) Says:

    “Once he gets his passport here”

    ok he gets PR (probably a year away) then another 5 till he is a citizen, added to the 4 years before he got refugee status= 10 years.

    What a short cut!

  58. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (147) Says:

    It’s a little confusing . . .

    Zaoui is no longer a risk – but we will continue to watch him . . . oh?

    SIS Head: The time taken was in Zauoi’s favour – shows he is not now a terrorist.
    Like a crim in jail for aggravated robbery is not a crim because he hasn’t aggravatedly robbed anything recently?

    The Zaoui case spotlights systems failures which are only just about to be corrected by new law.
    Apparently this couldn’t be done until now. Why? – like, can the law on murder not be changed while any murderer is still going through the system?

    Zauoi’s good behaviour sworn on the Koran – so probably does Bin Laden swear on the Koran

    Will Zaoui now become a media authority on any matter on Islam . . . with about a 50-50 split on who believes and who does not.

    Amnesty International is critical of the treatment of Zaoui . . . but Zaoui has no complaint with the New Zealand Government – for now

    But nice this is all fixed up before Election year

    Will any journalist worth his salt ask the Australian officials if Zaoui will be permitted to enter Australia, on, I assume, a New Zealand passport?

    And last but not least [except in the eyes of Labour] . . .
    How is Winston placed in his support agreement with Labour – no surprises?

  59. Lee C (4,120) Says:

    He’ll probably get the first five years back-dated.

    I’ve just read the decision (see metcalf’s blog above) and it appears to say that
    1) Zaoui knew lots of people who were a security risk but he didn’t know they were, until he found out, then he stopped consorting with them, except for he one coincidental time he was caught and arrested with one at the Swiss Border.
    He was oblivious of the terrorist aspects of the people he hung out with. But his arrest in Belgium was because of a devise left lying around by one of his colleagues. Zaoui says he didn’t know he’d left it, but did know his friend might have terrorist links.
    3) But has subsequently parted with info (after five years) which, if it got back to his old colleagues, would put his life in danger so he has to be allowed to stay
    4) He has sworn to be good in New Zealand
    5) besides, he is such a high profile figure he would find it difficult to pose a threat to anyone in NZ

    SO, after five years of obscufication, negotiation and drip-feeding of sensitive information when it served his purpose, we are now asked to take his ‘sworn’ testimony that he is not going to misbehave here in NZ. Isn’t this a classic case of ‘scratch a liar and you’ll catch a thief?’

    Don’t get me wrong. He might be the intellectual wing of a much more ‘hands-on’ organisation, and might have decided that his differences of opinion put him at risk of death.

    But he might actually be a very clever dissembler and liar who has played a subtle game of diplomatic chess to his own advantage.

    As for the danger to him and his family. There is still no evidence that he or his folks are in danger in Malaysia, nor have they been for the last five years.

    This of course suggests that either:
    a) he has such sensitive info about his enemies that they will not touch him
    b) he isn’t linked to them, therefore is not in danger
    c) he is linked to them and is not in danger.

    It all depends on what, or who you choose to believe – cuddly “I’m a victim, me” Zaoui, on one hand or the evil forces of international counter-espionage in the shape of the SIS on the other.

    Funny how peoples’ prior political convictions colour their sifting of facts.

  60. cubit9f (296) Says:

    natural party of govt Says:

    “I love the way conservatives cant resist tooting on the ol’ racist dog whistle.”

    It seems that W Peters is the most vociferous critic of this performance. He is hardly friendly to conservatives as represented by the National Party.

    At the end of the day it is all about popularity publicity.

    Clark, Locke, Peters, Manning (lawyer), the Catholic church and any one else who could their snouts into the media trough.

    What about all of the other immigrant and refugee cases. Where is the poor old Field Tiler?

  61. Mark (341) Says:

    If it such a win for Zaoui then why did he agree not to contact certain people now in NZ.

    And he was still convicted in Europe.

    But let’s just keeping ignoring those facts shall we, and try and claim he has never done anything wrong.

    Of course I love the irony of someone with means queue jumping other refugees that cannot afford to buy a plane ticket to NZ and becoming a cause celeberity of the left.

  62. CraigM (668) Says:

    “Get over the hysterics CraigM. ”

    Where is the hysterics? seems that you are the one getting all hot under the collar.

    “This guy’s a legit refugee who’s been through the system and had that status confirmed. There was no doubt about that”

    In your opinion of course. I’m sure you weren’t really intending to speak for everyone.

    He has been given shamnesty. NZ is a more dangerous place because of this decision, IMHO. Not just because we have allowed a convicted terrorist to reside here, but because, as I stated earlier, I believe we have opened the floodgates.

    Thai tilers forced to do perform cheap labour for political favours get no look-in. Convicted terrorist becomes the ’cause de jour’ and the darling of the liberal set. Destroys passport, lies to immigration and gets to live happily ever after.

    It is wrong. Of that, in my opinion, there is no doubt.

  63. insider (777) Says:

    I see from this morning’s Herald he has now become an intelligence asset

    I’ve always believed that those who saw him as this innocent cleric were willfully naive or spinning.

    I can;t believe anyone who came out of the bloodbath that was Algerian politics could be the innocent that was portrayed and this deal seems to show that.

    I don’t think he was a gunwielding terririst but he was definitely on the fringes and perhaps his support was more active than has previously been let on by his supporters – a link man or a safe house or passort provider perhaps.

    Some might see this as a victory for Zaoui and an SIS backdown, but this appears to cast some significant doubts on elements of his story

  64. insider (777) Says:

    Of course, if only he had gone on hunger strike this could have been sorted out years ago

  65. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    “I am certain jaz.morris is him writting [sic] under another name ”

    Incredible. You may have noticed I don’t share D4J’s blind right-wing views. Also as a 17 year old I’m not yet a father.

    Secondly, this home metaphor. Firstly, if someone was in the situation of Zaoui (who at the time was under threat, maybe not now so much), I would let them in. Secondly, this is a false analogy. It’s not like every tourist who comes gets personally approved by the citizens (homeowners, if you will). We trust the govt to do it for us. In this case, they screwed up by following the banal whims of a few introverted xenophobes who still can’t accept that Zaoui living in New Zealand does not instantly mean the whole Muslim population will flood to NZ and start raping and pillaging!

  66. Puzzled in Ekatahuna (147) Says:

    Ooops – it’s all changed again
    So Zaoui is now helping the CIA
    And that screws both Winston [Let's love America] and Keith [Let's hate anything American] in one neat little stroke

    But wait . . . Zaoui associated with all these people who were terrorists but he didn’t realise that was what they were, so what information can he have that is any use to the CIA?

    Never mind – this latest info reinforces why he can’t be sent home, but it probably would not be prudent to stand beside him in a queue waiting for a bus or a hamburger or anything – it could be a New Zealand first!

    And I wonder still if Australian officials would now let him into Australia.

  67. insider (777) Says:

    JAz

    One of the issues to some of us with the refugee was that he was not “under threat” when he arrived in NZ.

  68. CraigM (668) Says:

    “introverted xenophobes”

    great to see that our education system may not be as rancid as I thought.

    Sad to see however, that leftists of any age seem willing to make sweeping generalisations aimed at lowering their “opponents” to a perceived level of intelligence that makes them not worth debating with.

    I have been called many things by those who know me, but never introverted, nor a xenophobe. (then again most of my friends aren’t that smart)

    You’ll go far jaz. And as you age gracefully I sincerely hope you realize the folly of socialism. Most of us do grow out of it.

    :-)

    Seriously, it is good to see someone from your generation taking an interest in such things.

  69. jaz.morris (97) Says:

    HA! Me, a socialist? When will the right take notice of the fact that some with a human conscience and the ability to question American conformism aren’t necessarily socialist Labour-ite weasels?

  70. CraigM (668) Says:

    jaz, not all labour supporters are weasels. Many are just lazy & misguided. Besides, you are being unkind to the poor little creatures. (the weasels)

    and you really need to work on the sweeping generalisations. Just a suggestion.

  71. casual watcher (289) Says:

    Given the latest revelations about the trading of information with the CIA etc Zaoui should be tagged a defector, not a refugee. The SIS did their job well and should be commended for sticking to their guns on the Security Risk Certificate for so long. It is inadequate law at fault here but if there was a will this Govt could have kicked him out if they had wanted to. A conspiracy theorist might argue that a trade off with the Greens has been involved in this farce as well.

  72. virginblogger (97) Says:

    I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt but the fact remains that

    - he was not under threat
    - he flushed his passport down the loo on the plane
    - he has been convicted for terrorist activity in Europe
    - the taxpayer funded his protracted legal case
    - this suits Clark’s UN agenda
    - why choose NZ over Australia? ( answer we = a soft touch )

    What will happen if he proves to be involved in terrorist activity here? We should be concerned that he is a radical Muslim. Oh I forgot he’s promised to behave – well that’s allright then. Why don’t we adopt that policy with all criminals –
    ” I swear on the bible to be good”
    NZ says ‘good boy off you go then”

  73. Lance (1,142) Says:

    It was enough for me to support Zaoui because the French were the ones supplying the risk information. Fuck.. the French have always had NZ’s best interests at heart.

    I also found it very very disturbing the elected leaders of his country were being systematically killed after a coup.

    I felt like NZ was aiding and abetting Nazi’s hunting down their opponents internationally. A dirty little affair all round.

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