The report on sole-parent families and MSD
The NZ Herald has an NZPA report which appears to be a Green press release rehashed on some terrible suppression of a report by the Government. It would have been nice to have had someone ask well why did the Families Commission decide not to publish it, and work that into the story.
Luckily Lindsay Mitchell does know the background to this, and mentions the report was based on a sample of 15 DPB recipients whom the author was already providing advocacy work for. It hardly sounds like like it would be published in a peer reviewed journal.
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January 8th, 2008 at 11:58 am
As this link indicates The Families Commission has not taken this research off their commissioned research database, It was supposed to have been completed a year ago.
January 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Well spoken D4J.
What a shame your comments fall on deaf ears,
as you will probably find most people today will either be at work earning their family a living, raising a family or general contributing to their families well being.
Today D4J how are you contributing? I don’t see much justice here at all
January 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Talking about the Families Commission how about addressing the problems that the Fathers Coalition presented to them February last year? Yeah right, not why Aunty Helen is running the corrupt show .What a waste of time going to Wellington and meeting with Rajen Prasad .
Radical feminists are riping the soul out of New Zealand and all kiwi’s can do is jump on a plane outta here or go why worry, bah,bah,bah !!! .Who said New Zealand is not run by unlawful gender bias criminals ?
Go kiss Sue again Chester !!
January 8th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I love the way that as D4J gets more and more rabid his spelling gets worse and worse. Could someone put together a scatter plot? Or even better, all of his posts could be filtered through a simple little program that counts the errors and calculates how mad he is (angry mad, not crazy mad, I don’t think there is anything that could calculate that) and then puts a little warning next to the post.
For an example, just compare paragraph one at 11:04am with paragraph two at 12:27pm. Whatever he had for lunch obviously didn’t agree with him.
January 8th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I read on Stuff that the report was on the Work-Life balance of DPB beneficiaries…… So what counts as work to someone on the DPB then?
January 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
To Bevan (from the Stuff article you mention:
“… beneficiaries’ work in parenting and voluntary and community work needed to be formally recognised.”
aladin
January 8th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
The conclusions of the report – at least as briefly summarised by the Herald – seem reasonably valid based on my own personal experience of working with beneficiaries some years ago. Obviously things at WINZ haven’t changed much.
So Sue Bradford is allowed to have a go at DBP, is she? Obviously after snuggling up to Labour to get her anti-smacking legislation through she’s keen to establish her “independence”. Nice of the 9th floor to give her a list of Labour lame ducks whom it’s acceptable to attack since they’re being cut loose anyway.
January 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“… beneficiaries’ work in parenting and voluntary and community work needed to be formally recognised.”
aladin
Since when is parenting work? Seems to dehuminise parenting too much for my likeing, makes it sounds like the parents consider it a chore and dont really want to do it. And what would you consider the better role model, the single mother on the DPB, or the single mother holding down some form of paid employment?
January 8th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
“… beneficiaries’ work in parenting and voluntary and community work needed to be formally recognised.”
Really Linda, that is most unusual, as I am flat out helping in the community reconnecting children and parents shattered by extremely dysfunctional systems and sinister government gender bias ideologies. I have never even received a cent for my work.? Not one bloody cent !! The state services commission and heartland services have both thanked me for my work, however they have never given me funding of any description whatsoever?
WINZ actually refer distressed fathers and mothers to me? Ouch that hurt the feminazi’s.
I did wonder when you’d show up on this thread.
Great to see the gene aladin fell for the trap . Do please attack me .
January 8th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
“Luckily Lindsay Mitchell does know the background to this”
Yikes! What on earth did we do before Blogs/The Internet?
… or maybe back then the media actually produced in-depth/well researched articles?
January 8th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
“Since when is parenting work?” Of course paernting is working. It is 24/7 hard work that is most often undervalued and under aprreciated.
Recognising it is such does not dehuminise it, but is instead the first step to celebrating the most importnat job there is.
January 8th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I knew I should have edited better before sending.
“Since when is parenting work?” Of course parenting is working. It is 24/7 hard work that is most often undervalued and under appreciated.
Recognising it is such does not dehumanise it, but is instead the first step to celebrating the most important job there is.
January 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
To Bevan and D4J,
I am merely quoting a sentence from the original article, seeing neither of you dorks appears to have read it.
aladin
January 8th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
To Bevan and D4J,
I am merely quoting a sentence from the original article, seeing neither of you dorks appears to have read it.
aladin
Getting a little nasty arnt we? All I object to is anyone who considers looking after their kids as work. Might I sugest you take a few deep breaths.
January 8th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
“Since when is parenting work?” Of course parenting is working. It is 24/7 hard work that is most often undervalued and under appreciated.
Recognising it is such does not dehumanise it, but is instead the first step to celebrating the most important job there is.
On the contrary, I work at least a 9 hour day and quite frankly the time I get to spend with my children when I am home is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than work could ever be. Its the part of the day I look forward to the most. I dont need praise, recognition or to be paid for it.
January 8th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Dear Linda,
As I am a “dork ” can you please explain to me why this government will not recognize fathers and mothers as both equally able bodied parents at the United Nations Convention regarding families . Talk about out of step !!
Sue Bradford and other radical feminists like Helen Klark have been instrumental in destroying shared parenting, because the whole concept does not fit well with feminazi’s master plan.
Have you read the new book from Louise Sloan titled Knock Yourself Up? She is part of the new age “choice motherhood movement “, you know dad is a anonymous sperm donor !!
Increasing numbers of kiwi women have decided to be single parents and can we expect DIY sperm donors and shopping for sperm to becoming commonplace in New Zealand ?
Kind regards
Concerned social conservative .
January 8th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
D4J would you consider yourself an equal contributor in your children’s well being?
Maybe D4J in some circumstance’s equal parenting would be nothing but a liability to the concerning children.
In my opinion if your blogging style follows through into your parenting skills–Poor kids
January 8th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Excellent post D4J.
when you start being consistent and get on an intelligent roll instead of having false arguments with yourself using my tag on the standard and getting caught out the vision of your message might start filtering out.
Tax paying Kiwi,,
When you bring d4j’s name up and kids in the same sentence you’re in for a lot of trouble. I notice your post was a long time after his, you’re playing very safe!
January 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
D4J – “Have you read the new book from Louise Sloan titled Knock Yourself Up?”
I haven’t read the book but will (against my better judgement obviously) take your word that she is a nutter. Just because someone left wing is a nutter, doesn’t confirm your theory that “hateful, vengeful and vindictive radical feminists are conducting a social experiment’s that has gone horribly wrong”. It’s just like pointing to a right wing nutter (see http://dad4justice.blogspot.com/ for an example) doesn’t prove that fathers shouldn’t have some relevant rights with regard to their children.
January 8th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Besakey; I think I addressed that question to Linda Axford, but obviously you radical feminists rubbed the magic genie and out popped another aladin? Surprise, surprise, go girls go .If Sue Bradford has a problem with the post on my blog please tell her to take the necessary legal action to have it removed .You ain’t seen nothing yet as what I am going to put up on my blog before the election will see litigation from liarbour suckholes . See if care – bring it on bitches .I have only just started my attack on the feminazi’s that have shut men out of this country. Just look at the pathetic wimps in parliament and the gutless all blacks and you’ll get my drift.
It s funny that I should be attacked on a public forum for my parental credibility. Maybe I should ring the dozen or so parents and warn them big bad d4j is not safe and you should come and get your daughters. I mean to say as the cook on the barbecue and host to many pretty young teenage girls do you know what I said to them before I allowed to eat my perfectly cooked steak sausages, snapper, whitebait, scallops etc….I said any of you get pregnant and go on the DPB I’ll smack your arse . They all laughed and promised they wouldn’t. I have to now play taxi driver to the teenage Paris Hilton’s and drop them at a party. I have told any potential boy friends that they’d better shape up or I ring my mates in the mob and call in a favour. They shit themselves and said Yes SIR .
January 8th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
‘I have told any potential boy friends that they’d better shape up or I ring my mates in the mob and call in a favour.’
All fathers should have connections in the mob!
You are a role model for us all D4J
Keep up the good work
Social conservative? I dont think so
January 9th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Get a sense of humour you gormless cowardly git . Are all you lefty twitters such dull freaks ?
January 9th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
“I said any of you get pregnant and go on the DPB I’ll smack your arse”, “I have told any potential boy friends that they’d better shape up or I ring my mates in the mob and call in a favour.”
And its Sue Bradford who is to blame for sexual abuse and violence?
I actually do find your threats to spank any young girl who gets pregnant incredibly creepy.
January 9th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
dad there are people who post on this blogg whose lifes and livelihood, are linked with the barren bitches survival, ,its a growth industry. Helen davis survival really MATTERS, as if anyone else wins these overpaid tossiers MIGHT HAVE TO REALLY WORK, so D4J that is why they are as nasty as they can be , (think professional bludging civil servants)