Drinks in London

June 22nd, 2008 at 9:34 pm by David Farrar

Quite a few people have said they are keen to catch up for drinks in , so have arranged a pub get together.

We’ll meet on Monday evening from 6.30 pm onwards at the Speights Ale House. It is at the Temple Tube Station, postcode WC2R 2PH.

Now at the Southerner 210 Strand, London WC2R 1AP due to closure of the Ale House. It is just around the corner from the Temple Tube Station.

Details will also be posted on the Kiwis in Britain Facebook Group.

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22 Responses to “Drinks in London”

  1. Fairfacts Media (371 comments) says:

    Don’t forget to celebrate the polls, David.
    Don’t forget to celebrate the polls.
    TV1 has it 55-29
    Fairfax 54 – 30
    Roy Morgan 52.5 to 31.5%

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  2. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Ahh, the Speights bar closed as it is relocating -due to a great many issues, including a lot of hassle from Westminster council. They have moved their operations in the meantime to the Southerner 210 Strand, London WC2R 1AP

    It’s right around the corner from the old Speights Bar.

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  3. David Farrar (1,870 comments) says:

    Client – so people should still go to the Temple station?

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  4. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Yep. It’s right by the station. Easily found on http://www.streetmap.co.uk and enter the above postcode. If thats all too confusing for you FOBs then Temple Walkabout is also at the station, that’s where we had a pint last time. :)

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  5. davegee (14 comments) says:

    Info from the Speight’s website…

    “It seems that Speight’s has become too popular for our travelling Ale House to handle the demand, so we’re on the move again. We’ve decided to send it home to prepare for its next salvation mission. Not to worry though, we’ll be building a new, permanent Speight’s Ale House in London to handle all the thirsty Kiwis – hopefully in time for summer.

    In the mean time don’t despair, Speight’s and our mates down at Hemisphere Bar, (just around the corner from our current location) are putting the full Speight’s range on tap to tide you all over. We’re even going to change the name to The Southerner, so there’s no confusion!

    The Southerner is located just around the corner from Temple station at 210 Strand, London…”

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  6. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Heh we get the same news! The official story is far more annoying and frustrating. The council was closing the bar at 3pm each day and giving them hell. The bar had no toilets, we had to use the downstairs Walkabout ones – but the good thing was the location was by far the greatest ever. Plonked right on top of the Temple Tube station.

    So is it the Southerner or the Temple Walkabout David?

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  7. big bruv (13,548 comments) says:

    Why on earth would you travel twelve thousand bloody miles to go and drink in a pub full of Kiwi’s?

    I never quiet understood the mindset of those doing their OE in London (and it seems a strangely London phenomenon)

    They travel half way across the world to experience a different culture and learn about the world yet the first thing they do when they get there is set up a flat with other Kiwi’s or Aussie’s.
    The second thing they do is break out the replica All Black jersey in an desperate attempt to show the world where they come from (NZ’s inferiority and insecurity complex showing through) and slap on the old bone carving.

    Any Pom within ear shot will be told that their weather is crap and that it is so much better in NZ (utter bullshit), they give the impression that we all eat Xmas dinner at the beach and stare longingly at pictures of Takapuna Beach or Oriental Bay while telling the locals how much they miss the beach lifestyle when the reality is that they were born and bred in bloody Palmerston North.

    When pissed they feel the need to perform a Haka at the drop of a hat (there is not much worse than a drunk white kiwi trying to “connect” with his roots by performing a Haka to a room full of Poms who have not seen one since the last pissed Kiwi arrived in London) or rave on about how much better things are in NZ.

    Most NEVER venture further north than the Watford gap and life outside the M25 does not seem to exist for them, however the most annoying thing I found by far is the sudden need they have to pester the fuck out of you when they discover that you are a fellow NZer, I mean they would not speak to you if they were in Queen street or Willis street so why the hell come and annoy me just because I have the same accent as they do.

    Frankly I tried to avoid Kiwi’s during my six years in the UK, on the whole (with one or two exceptions) I wanted nothing to do with them and found them to be an embarrassment and bloody annoying.

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  8. hubbers (230 comments) says:

    This map should help.

    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=WC2R+1AP&safe=active&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr

    I will try to make it if I can get off work on time.

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  9. capills_enema (194 comments) says:

    That was a very impassioned outburst from the Bruv-ster, given extra force by it all being completely true. The absolute worst place to drink in London, even worse than any Wetherspoons or All Bar One, is any Walkabout Bar (the one in Shepherd’s Bush being particularly shit). Avoid, avoid, avoid.

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  10. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Heh, I actually fully agree with you both. However I keep my options wide open. Been here for over 5 years and there is nothing worse than an annoying drunk Kiwi within earshot when you’re having a quiet pint with your English mates. Although the English are readily willing to accept that they are shite at most things :)

    The Shep Bush Walkabout is a shocker, but an experience to see at least once – just to reconfirm why you are over here. :) Too many Aussies for my liking. All Bar One is the same… but you’re being a tad hard on the proper English geezer bars Wetherspoons, they are all about British culture and have a good ale selection over the winter months. Heheh.

    Most Kiwis would be alarmed at how wonderful the British countryside is and the people outside of London. I love my trips to the North – they are probably more relaxing than heading to the continent!

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  11. mavxp (494 comments) says:

    My sentiments exactly big bruv. I will not step inside a walkabout bar period.

    I enjoy a good antipodean style coffee when I can because it is simply better than the starbucks, costas, & neros that are on every street. I dont miss NZ beer at all, as the english, belgians and germans beat us hands down. I don’t own an All Black jersey, and am quietly pleased by the lack of rugby interest over here. The sport on the tv at the moment is the UEFA cup, not the rugby :-)

    Have done trips to Cornwall (superb), day trips to the Kent and Surrey countryside, Oxford, Cambridge, St Albyns, Chester, the Lakes District and Scottish highlands, and will be doing a tour soon of the Cotswalds -lots yet to explore. London certainly is in England, but its only once you get out of it that you experience “England”. Having said that, London is a great place to live.

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  12. kiwigirl (23 comments) says:

    ha ha ha – Clint and I used to disagree a lot about this when I lived in London – as I used to refuse to go to any “kiwi or Aussie” pubs. Although, i worked around the corner from the Temple Walkabout, and we used to go there for lunch sometimes.

    Although, this just made me a little London homesick. Which I never get.

    x K

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  13. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    There ya go Kiwigirl, you went to a Walkie more often than I did :)

    It isn’t a great place to go, but to turn your nose at it because it *might* be full of homesick (and drunken) Kiwis is sad too. Kiwis who suddenly turn into snobs just because they think they are doing something different in London is also pretty sad.

    Czech beer kills Kiwi beer any day of the week.

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  14. NZD.JPY (130 comments) says:

    Oh come on. Kiwis are great people even drunken homesick ones with all blacks jerseys in kiwi pubs. I’ll try to make it tonight if I can sneak off work in time.
    The one thing I did see though that made me cringe a bit was the kiwi “artist” who replaced the tube map with a “tu be” map with maori names. hehe pretty stink I reckon.
    I agree about kiwi beer too.

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  15. kiwigirl (23 comments) says:

    Yeah, but my problem with a lot of kiwis in London (and I’m not saying you are one of these kiwis at all Clint) – is that too many go to London, and only have kiwi (or maybe Aussie?) friends. All they do is hang out with kiwis, travel with kiwis, go to bars full of kiwis and aussies etc. And this is a lot of kiwis. There is nothing wrong with that – but I don’t really see how its experiencing London life completely. And it wasn’t what I wanted to do. I had a lot of kiwi friends – but I would say about half of my friends were non-kiwis.

    Oh – and I avoided the walkabout/redback/church etc. like the plague – but probably mostly because I’m just too old for it, and its not really my scene at all anymore.

    x K

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  16. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i totally agree with the ‘run like the wind’ reaction to hearing local dialects..when travelling..

    i used to avoid kiwi/aussies..like the plague..

    i really wasn’t out there to meet trev or sall..from glenfield/palmie/wherever..

    and that clustering-syndrome..is kinda strange..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  17. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    yeah I know KG. :) I have met a load of Kiwis who thought West England was just out of Zone 5 :) Heheheheheh.

    I don’t see many Kiwis anymore, but for special occasions there is nothing like a good old Kiwi blow out at the Reddie for a Sunday BBQ session, with a Hangi and one quid Speights in the beer garden. Certainly more atmosphere than a geezer bar!

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  18. RRM (9,630 comments) says:

    Let us know if any good fights break out between the “good right folk” and the dirty leftie trolls!

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  19. big bruv (13,548 comments) says:

    Clint

    “Most Kiwis would be alarmed at how wonderful the British countryside is and the people outside of London. I love my trips to the North – they are probably more relaxing than heading to the continent!”

    Never has a truer word been spoken, I always found that the further north you went in the UK the better the people are (with the exception of Yorkshire which is the asshole of the world) and you are so right about the countryside, it is simply magnificent.

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  20. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Why on earth would you travel twelve thousand bloody miles to go and drink in a pub full of Kiwi’s?

    Good point. So on that theme… here’s getstaffed’s guide to really enjoying a new country:

    1. Learn to speak some of their language. A few simple words conveys your interest in their country and results in locals really helping you out. A ‘Moi!’ in Finland work wonders. So does a ‘Bonjour’ in France… but only in as much as the French will immediately stop pretending not to speak English just to stop you making a butchery of their beautiful language!

    2. Eat local food. Now I drew the line at mouse embryo’s in northern China (still feel sick thinking about this..) but if you feel the need to visit McDonalds in Rome then it’s time to return to NZ. Be adventurous – there’s a world of fantastic local cuisine that’s just waiting to be sampled.

    3. Drink local wine. Fortunately I’ve never been anywhere where really, really bad wine is made. I’m told Uzbekistan’s drop is to die for (or perhaps because of). Or even try some of the local hard stuff. There are some local Oozo’s from inland Greece that I can still taste… 10 years on.

    4. Meet, don’t see . Go to locals pubs, restaurants etc. If you only go where the tourists hang out then you’ll get half the experience at twice the price. If you are a kiwi then trade on this fact when meeting locals. It’s great currency, and we’re generally liked by the peoples of most countries. Meeting people creates lasting memories, while the being a tourist fills your hard drive with photos that quickly mean nothing

    5. Partial planning. Hit the web and sort our some keys on (1) thru (4) above before you go… but don’t pre-book everything. Leave enough slack in your itinerary to take our opportunities that crop up.

    6. Have your shots. I have had one nasty experience as a result of (2) and having an aversion to pre-holiday jabs

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  21. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Some of the most interesting comments threads on KB in ages . Will take note mentally, if nothing else.

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  22. clintheine (1,568 comments) says:

    Nice comment “GetStaffed” could not agree more! However I had no shots for my 5 month SE Asia/Indian trip and the only time I got ill was when I hit London at the completion and ate a Shepherds Pie!

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