Labour lets pack rapist Shipton out early

November 5th, 2008 at 6:55 pm by David Farrar

TV3 reported tonight that the board is letting pack rapist out of jail in a couple of weeks despite the fact he hasn’t served even three years of his eight and a half year sentence.

How is it possible a pack rapist gets out of jail so quickly?

The answer is that Labour changed the law in 2001. Before they changed the law Shipton would have served around a minimum of six years of his sentence. But Labour changed the law to allow rapists to be eligible for parole after just one third of their sentence instead of two thirds.

This is the same Government that has also just made it easier for repeat offenders to get .

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44 Responses to “Labour lets pack rapist Shipton out early”

  1. big bruv (13,227 comments) says:

    Calling RODNEY…….Jump all over this story please.

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  2. Lee (627 comments) says:

    Sick. Very very sick.

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  3. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Socialist strategy: minimise consequences of criminal offending and maximise (or fabricate) offending by non-criminal citizens, thereby increasing the justification for increased state intervention in all of our lives.

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  4. ScaryThoughts (15 comments) says:

    I agree big bruv – would he be on 2 or 3 – I lost count?

    Empathise with the victims – and at least TV3 is doing something to restore it’s reputation as a “news” service

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  5. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    and at least TV3 is doing something to restore it’s reputation as a “news” service

    How exactly? Police offending already gets more airtime than Harvey Norman!

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  6. ZenTiger (425 comments) says:

    Disgusting. He was found guilty. He should do the time.

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  7. MacDoctor (66 comments) says:

    This was inevitable. Shipton may be scum, but he is quite unlikely to reoffend, so he is a shoo-in for parole. Labour’s “Law and Order” policy (I am having to stop myself laughing as I type that) is a complete joke. The combination of short sentences and a high reoffending rate guarantees nice full prisons against a background of increasing crime.

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  8. dad4justice (7,739 comments) says:

    Our justice system is totally corrupt, as the boys in blue join the lying lawyers and twisted judges in a sad fucked up circus!!!

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  9. dave (985 comments) says:

    why do you think so many criminals vote Labour? – because the Greens clean slate bill means they can get a job later without a criminal record, and the worst criminals can get out of jail early.

    They’re better off with Labour – way better. Are the rest of us?

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  10. ScaryThoughts (15 comments) says:

    GS – reporting something that is news worthy – rather than trotting out more tapes.

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  11. ZenTiger (425 comments) says:

    Good point Dave, although the recent torture and murder of Emma was by a person who had a criminal history who simply changed his name by deed poll and moved on. For all the money pumped into the bureaucracy, they can’t even get the simple things right.

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  12. dad4justice (7,739 comments) says:

    “the recent torture and murder of Emma was by a person who had a criminal history who simply changed his name by deed poll and moved on.”

    Don’t forget the homicidal maniac that slaughtered the young girl got paid $40K for HURT FEELINGS from the twisted Liarbour ####’s!!!!!

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  13. Suzanne (26 comments) says:

    Some of us beleive Shipton is innocent and if he is, then it is a travesty – the media are responsible for a dirty campaign on this one.

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  14. happy88 (1 comment) says:

    As a victim of SHIPTONS game playing,intimidation and sexual violation who became apart of the 2004 Police Inquiry and Labour Inspired Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct, let me say this to the NewZealand Justice System,I and many others have had our lives turned upside down for many years by this Animal and his pack raping mates , to be sitting in your lounge and watching the detail of his release in 10days time on 3 News with no official notification from any agency in this country you are left numb and feeling sick to the bottom of your stomach.
    Should Shipton or any of his raping mates come calling or playing there bully boy tactics on his release,
    In a split second I would become Judge, Jury ,and Executioner.
    I hope the NZ Parole Board and them team of Psychologists who will never be Known or accountable realise beyond reasonable doubt they have all been fooled by the biggest fool of all.
    SHIPTON!!!

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  15. dad4justice (7,739 comments) says:

    Suzanne are you a police programmed lipstick wearing National HQ robot?

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  16. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    This is all very sad but I doubt much will change until a leading political figure in this country loses one of their loved ones or has a member of the family a victim of serious crime. I would not wish any of these things on anyone but the message sent out to the scum in the way of penalties would hardly have those contemplating a serious crime thinking twice.

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  17. ZenTiger (425 comments) says:

    It’s not the parole boards job to decide if he is innocent, Suzanne. He had a trial, he has opportunity for appeals, and he was found guilty. Less than 3 years jail for an 8+ year term is not justice.

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  18. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    > the parole board is letting pack rapist Brad Shipton…

    No, that would be “convicted pack rapist”. It’s like calling David Bain a murderer or Peter Ellis a paedophile. They were convicted, sure, but that is all. Of course, if Shipton is indeed a pack rapist, even serving two-thirds of his sentence is not enough.

    DPF, how many prisons do you think we’ll need if and when National are in govt?

    [DPF: At least one more - how ever many are needed to keep pack rapists in jail for their full sentence!]

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  19. dave (985 comments) says:

    DPF, how many prisons do you think we’ll need if and when National are in govt?
    NO more – just put two in every cell and shut down a prison. After all if people can get operated on in hospital corridors why not?

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  20. Twocan (24 comments) says:

    Sickening!!

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  21. big bruv (13,227 comments) says:

    Dave is right, oh for the days when real National party MP’s were not afraid of upsetting the horses.

    Former Nat John Banks was famous for saying he could and would increase the prison capacity overnight if he was given the chance, he simply would put two, three or four bunks in a cell until they had enough beds for the scum.

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  22. Dazzaman (1,123 comments) says:

    My brother got sentenced a whole 2 years for aggravated assault, served the whole lot and deserved to. He was on legal aid though, I guess Shipton has a high powered lawyer. Money talks or probably in his case walks! Creep.

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  23. ZenTiger (425 comments) says:

    Ross, how many rapists and murderers are there in New Zealand that you worry about having to lock up?

    For all of those wailing about “life imprisonment”, the law changes for keeping in serious repeat violent offenders isn’t that huge a number.

    At a pinch, we could let out people caught in non-violent crimes, no need for you to advocate for early release on behalf of rapists, murderers and pedophiles.

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  24. dime (9,392 comments) says:

    in aussie, pack rapists get 20 years..

    1/3 his sentence for pack rape.. this country just makes me shake my head..

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  25. KennyJelly (33 comments) says:

    Could there be a deal stroke behind the scene? “If you vote for us, we will let you out.”

    Desperate situation requires desperate actions. Every vote counts.

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  26. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    Let the scumbag rot in jail for the full term.

    There is nothing worse than a crooked copper, especially one who is a rapist.

    I would probably agree with him being given parole if he had admitted his crime, show genuine remorse, and if assessments indicated there was minimal likelihood of reoffending.

    But this guy still denies he has done anything wrong, and will likely do it again within months of getting out. He doesn’t accept there is such a thing as rape, as far as he is concerned as a possible perpetrator, because his ego tells him that all women want him sexually.

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  27. getstaffed (9,189 comments) says:

    Seeesh. I agree with toad. I need a nice lie down ….

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  28. dad4justice (7,739 comments) says:

    I can’t believe it, but I also agree with Toad, bent pigs stink real bad!

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  29. iago (19 comments) says:

    meh I thought 9 out of 10 people enjoy pack rape.

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  30. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT TRAINING MANUAL
    SECTION 897: SUBSECTION 57: Respect Rapists.

    When dealing with rapists students just remember they are people too. Respect their feelings and remember that when they were carrying out their horrific acts, to them it was an act of love.
    Show love to them and they will all turn out to be good little boys.
    Make sure they have had a good meal, the remote for their LCD TV is handy and that their underfloor heating is turned up before you tuck them in at night.
    If they decide to rape you as well just grin and bear it as it is all good therapy for them.
    Etc etc————–

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  31. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    The Green policy of resorative justice has been widely mininterpreted. The key to restorative justice is that people admit their cime, agree to make amends as far as is possible to aggrieved persons, and are well supported back into society upon thier release.

    But there will always be people like Shipton who will not get the restorative justive process started by acknowledging that their actions were criminal. They should serve full term.

    And there are a small minority, like William Bell and Graeme Burton, who are sociopathic killers and should never see the outside of a prison.

    I don’t think you’ll find any Greens who would support either of those two guys ever being paroled. Sorry to dispel the myth about the Greens being soft on crime.

    The Green Party wants to see rehabilitation, and if successful early release, for the criminals who can be rehabilitated, but the minority who cannot should serve their full sentences.

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  32. Nookin (3,034 comments) says:

    D4J: Reid/Edgecombe claimed $40,000 and got nothing. Had he succeeded the guy he belted would have received the proceeds under a labour govt law. The judge was not the slightest bit impressed with him or his story.

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  33. dad4justice (7,739 comments) says:

    Respect a rapist with a blow from a sledgehammer and thank you nookin for clarification on that unsavoury matter. Nice to see at least one sane person in the judiciary.

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  34. Johnboy (14,911 comments) says:

    I have great respect for the priciples of the Green Party toad. I have struggled with incorporating my belief of slaughtering evil-doers and its effect on the environment. Tell me what method of capital punishment would fit in with green policies.

    I always favoured shooting as I am a gun-toting maniac but one cannot go around polluting the environment with heavy metals so that is out.

    Hanging seems ecologicly sound but very messy if one gets the rope too long and not very nice watching the condemned choking to death if too short, so that is out.

    Burning at the stake is out for obvious problems regarding CO2 emissions and destruction of rainforest.

    The best one I have come up with is burial alive as it is very good for the worms. It does seem rather tough on the poor prisoner though specially if carried out in the face-up posture. It does have the advantage that later on a native tree could be planted so the deceased crim could recompense the world for being such a naughty little boy.

    Perhaps you could advise.

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  35. Mr Nobody NZ (397 comments) says:

    Toad the problem with the Green policy (From my understanding and perspective) is that it is ALL about rehabilitation. While rehabilitation is an important part of a justice system an equally important part is punishment. I would be a very happy person to see:
    1) removal of concurrent sentences. Each crime is equally valid and prisoners should get special treatment just because they commit lots of crimes.
    2) judges sentencing orders include two distinct and separate components punishment and rehabilitation.
    During the punishment component prisoners would not receive privileges like tv’s, education courses, access to parole.

    A bit of a side note is anybody aware of what happen about Rickards application to the Auckland Law Society?

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  36. Nookin (3,034 comments) says:

    The following link, if I have done it right, has a bit to say about prisoner claims. According to a recent report,the ADLS put Rickards in the too hard basket and referred it on to NZLS. Cant find the link but it was last Thurs or Friday.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10366008

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  37. Nookin (3,034 comments) says:

    Section 7 Sentencing Act sets out the purposes of sentencing. All of equal weight. How do folk rank them?

    “Purposes of sentencing or otherwise dealing with offenders

    (1)The purposes for which a court may sentence or otherwise deal with an offender are—

    (a)to hold the offender accountable for harm done to the victim and the community by the offending; or

    (b)to promote in the offender a sense of responsibility for, and an acknowledgment of, that harm; or

    (c)to provide for the interests of the victim of the offence; or

    (d)to provide reparation for harm done by the offending; or

    (e)to denounce the conduct in which the offender was involved; or

    (f)to deter the offender or other persons from committing the same or a similar offence; or

    (g)to protect the community from the offender; or

    (h)to assist in the offender’s rehabilitation and reintegration; or

    (i)a combination of 2 or more of the purposes in paragraphs (a) to (h).

    (2)To avoid doubt, nothing about the order in which the purposes appear in this section implies that any purpose referred to must be given greater weight than any other purpose referred to.”

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  38. The Silent Majority (82 comments) says:

    This country needs ACT. This country needs ACT. This country needs ACT. This country needs ACT.

    What more can I say?

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  39. Robert Black (423 comments) says:

    Any relation to Jenny? As with that guy Tamihere that did the Swedish tourists?

    Believe me, sentencing in NZ is a joke. As is the jury system, which I have a 100 % winning record as a defence lawyer.

    I try to explain it in my classes in China, trying to explain soft punishment, no hard labour and no capital punishment.

    Eventually, one pretty young Chinese girl will say,

    “But Mr Robert, in China, we kill our terrible criminals. I mean, who pays for the lawyers of those gang rapists and murderers? And who pays for their jail? Isn’t it very expensive to the country? Seems very inefficient to me.”

    “Oh the tax-payers do. You see in Western countries our legal systems originate from Christianity. Christians. You know, Jesus Christ?”

    The all look blank. So I draw a cross on the blackboard and pretend to pray.

    “Oh, I see! So religion helps your criminals and keeps them alive as your Christian tax-payer majority pay for it,” she says. “Hmmm, interesting system. Based solely upon religion.”

    “Well, not everyone is a Christian. I am not. The majority are not.”

    “I don’t understand. Why does your majority accept it then and bear the cost? Aren’t you a democracy? I am confused. This would never happen in China.” she says.

    “Well, we call it democracy. In New Zealand we have this thing called MMP. The people voted for it. The only way I could possibly explain it is by the idiom I taught you last week, TWO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH.”

    “Teacher, I don’t understand!”

    “Oh look at that! 4pm! Doesn’t time fly when you are having fun! See you all next week and I will try and explain MMP to you!”

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  40. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,811 comments) says:

    Why doesn’t New Zealand just come out with it and make gangbangs a criminal offense. I’m sure Hels would be keen to introduce that law just ahead of her ultimate priority of making heterosexual sex illegal. Unfortunately for her she’ll be voted out of office before that can occur on the weekend.

    There’s a man drought in New Zealand so the lady folk that remain in the country have to lower there standards if they want to secure access to a man. I think the minimum expectation these days is that women have to take it up the dinner dumper on a regular basis.

    Clint Rickard isn’t a rapist. There has to be question marks over Brad Shipton’s conviction. It basically boils down to adults being involved in a gangbang and then twenty years later one of the participants making a complaint about it. The only unusual aspect is that some of the individuals involved were cops. Maybe there is police corruption in New Zealand and maybe there isn’t. It always seemed strange that Queensland cops were on the take yet New Zealand cops were whiter than white. I think we’ve all observed the lowering of the New Zealand police forces reputation over the last nine years of Hels Labour government.

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  41. wreck1080 (3,726 comments) says:

    This sums up some of our looney judges …

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4751167a6479.html

    ” A visibly upset judge today told a Masterton teenager convicted of sexual violation: “If I had my way I would release you today, but I can’t.” ”

    This judge feels sorry for the sex offender? What about the victim?

    And, at the end of the story…

    “… he had inexplicably come to the attention of the authorities at the age of 17, amassing 18 convictions over five months, including the two today.”

    This is not a nice person.

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  42. kaykaybee (133 comments) says:

    This is a travesty of justice. This is justice undelivered, this alone is a reason to seek a new Government and an overhaul of sentencing.

    Shipton, I hope that the good people of Tauranga ,or wherever you settle, show you as much compassion as you have shown to your victims.

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  43. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    You’re better off with labour.

    If you’re a criminal you certainly are.

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  44. baxter (893 comments) says:

    WRECK………………..I have no doubt that the Parole Board will take note of Judge FARISH”s recommendation and inflict him on the community as soon as possible. Neither will care or accept responsibility for his subsequent re-offending.

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