Fiji expels NZ and Australia envoys

November 3rd, 2009 at 8:17 pm by David Farrar

NZPA report:

has ordered New Zealand and Australia envoys to return home within 24 hours, accusing them of interfering in its internal affairs.

They have not recorded the specific reasons why. It is over the respective Governments allegedly blocking travel through Australia (and possibly NZ) for their new (Sri Lankan) Judges to replace the ones fired.

The Commodore’s speech setting out his rationale is here – press conference judiciary-1.

I’m not overly impressed by the Commodore citing the need for an Independent Judiciary, when he sacked the last set fo Judges because they got too independent.

Having said that, I’m not sure applying travel sanctions against the new Judges is achieving a lot either.

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21 Responses to “Fiji expels NZ and Australia envoys”

  1. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    All dictators really want is an Independent Judiciary. Tui alert.

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  2. Steve (4,587 comments) says:

    Delay, delay, delay and rule

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  3. XChequer (298 comments) says:

    Will someone please “quietly dispose” of Frank!

    Where is the CIA when you need them, huh? Paul B, if you are out there, can you please contact some of your old mates and get a bit of that ol’ regime change thing a’happenin!

    (repeat post from GD)

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  4. XChequer (298 comments) says:

    Frank obviously wants us to respond, why else would he do this?

    My question is “what does he get by Aussie and NZ suspending all ties to the place? Sympathy?

    Whats his next step? He’s a military guy so he must have planned this.

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  5. Tauhei Notts (1,746 comments) says:

    Now those of you criticising Frank Bananarama; how many of you been to Fiji in the past twelve months?
    No I haven’t been there either, but I have spoken at length with people from different political persuasions who have been there recently.
    And they are unanimous in their praise for Frank.
    Apparently Frank is no good for intellectuals and native Fijian kaumatuas. They are the erudite people that us New Zealanders hear so much from. Joe Public loves Frank and the way he has dealt to the awful corruption amongst the Ratu aristocracy. But Joe Public does not engage with sodomistic activities with New Zealand journalists so we never hear in our country what he thinks.
    Friends advise that New Zealand’s blinkered attitude to Fiji and, more particularly, Australia’s extremely blinkered attitude, is costing both countries money. Meanwhile the Yanks are there, pouring dough in to neutralise the impact of the Chinese. The Ockers dip out but, much more importantly, us New Zealanders dip out as well.

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  6. dad4justice (8,303 comments) says:

    Indeed TN, I like Frank who does not like shirt lifter journo freaks and thank God the yanks have sorted the big panda out.

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  7. Paul G. Buchanan (294 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts:

    Following on my response to XChequer on the general debate thread. The Yanks are NOT pouring money into Fiji. To the contrary, other than re-opening a consular and a peace corps office, the US has done little to nothing in terms of financial aid to the PIF countries including Fiji (despite 2007 being named the “Year of the Pacific” by Washington). Meanwhile the Chinese are pouring in developmental assistance and investment in port expansion, airport renovations, roadworks and general infrastructure upgrades that have potential dual purposes (i.e. military as well as civilian), and they do not much concern themselves with accountability or transparency requirements when contracting these projects. Whatever the situation on the ground in Fiji in terms of the Commodore’s support base, the language of business there is increasingly Mandarin-accented English. The geopolitical implications are going to be quite interesting in the decade ahead.

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  8. peterwn (3,298 comments) says:

    And the envoys should take the visa stamps with them.

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  9. kiki (425 comments) says:

    We trade and deal with china, Saudi and every other dictator. We even have soldiers fighting for a militarily installed corrupt ruler

    Why won’t we deal with Fiji ?

    I find this interesting

    Is this an ego trip for our leaders? can put around anyone bigger so pick on the small guy

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  10. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (852 comments) says:

    ugly, ugly, ugly

    so the dictator who sacked the judges for finding his coup unconstitutional is suddenly a defender of an independent judiciary.

    hmmm

    and as Paul points out, our very very good friends the chinese have no scruples whatsoever about who they deal with.

    Well if they owe us, and they do, the first thing the glorious peoples republic could do is pull the plug on bainamarama.

    will they? well it will show the extent to which protestations of friendship really make a difference won’t it.

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  11. Bazar (37 comments) says:

    What i find interesting is what our goals are by denying them travel.
    I’m not a big fan of sanctions. I feel that trade is one of the better ways to help spread ideals, and actually applying trade sanctions only serves to consolidate the powers that dictators wield, as they adapt and become fully inderpendant.

    They might however be very useful for preventing arms stockpiling and other military infrastructure buildup. But as for breaking regimes… someone will need to give me an example.

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  12. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    If the Fijians want to do deals with the Chinese, that’s thier business.

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  13. Crusader (321 comments) says:

    Since the indefinite postponement of elections, could the media just stop this “interim government” charade, and refer to the Fiji Government as what they are – a millitary regime.

    The Yanks have supported many a millitary dictator over the years. But the Chinese themselves are a millitary state. I have no idea who is propping up the Fiji thugs. Either way, there is still an unelected government in place.

    Never mind that Bainimarama has reduced corruption (apparently) – all sorts of dictators have “made the trains run on time” and other bogus achievements. They are all bullies and thieves.

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  14. kiki (425 comments) says:

    The might be bullies and thieves but we normally deal with them why not Fiji ?

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  15. pdm (844 comments) says:

    New Zealand have gone about this the wrong way from day 1 of the coup. The previous Fiji Government was corrupt and while two wrongs never make a right the motives for the coup were for the good of Fiji. This is evidenced by the support the current regime has from the majority of the Indian community.

    Instead of embargoes and travel restrictions NZ should have been working alongside Bainimarama to ensure the goals he set were reasonable and achievable. Clark and Peters had no clues on this and John Key and McCully missed a huge opportunity twelve months ago.

    The best thing that could happen is for John Key to fly to Suva and spend a day with Bainimarama. This would set the stage for a realistic resolution to the situation which is not going to go away by ignoring the current regime. NZ cannot depend on Rudd and the Australians as they have even less idea of protocol in Fiji.

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  16. ropata (117 comments) says:

    I don’t want MY taxpayer dollars spent on sucking up and bribing a military dictatorship thanks.. geopolitical power games are not NZ’s style, not within our capabilities, and certainly NOT part of our foreign policy mythos of moral leadership & conscience (uneven & pragmatic as it may be).

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  17. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    From what Ive read about Fiji and their politics over the last few decades (and from what Ive been told by some fijians – both fijian and indian – ) Bainimarama has done the right thing.
    The place was full of graft and corruption and the place was really run by the council of chiefs – nothing democratic about them. And if you were indian – you were second class.

    I hope all of you above who think Bainimarama is wrong understand that what both the NZ and Ausy Govts are asking for is a return to indigenous rule – i hope you welcome the same ideas here !!!
    The two Govts have gone about it totally the wrong way. I can only think that some government ministers have private holdings in Fiji that they risk losing if the place really does go democratic – or something like that.
    The govt should be more worried about the support of that rat in afganistan and how closs the teleban are to over running Pakistan and its neclear arsenal – thats something really serious to worry about.

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  18. Lance (2,704 comments) says:

    Forget all the long winded drivel.
    If he is such a man of the people why then not simply make it one vote to one person, abolish the tribal elder privileges and return immediately to democracy?

    This is not hard, not rocket science.
    Instead there are gross abuses of constitutional activities (by anyone’s standard), beatings, killings, banana republic activities and inane excuses for why no elections.

    But holidays there are cheap so it must be o.k.
    What’s a little hidden violence when your hotel rooms are half price?

    Hey … he’s a self appointed military dictator who uses violence and refuses elections… am I wrong?

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  19. Tauhei Notts (1,746 comments) says:

    Paul G. Buchanan and barry;
    Thank you for your considered contributions. It is so neat to see things debated in a proper manner rather than name calling and other infantile behaviour.

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  20. backster (2,184 comments) says:

    LANCE “If he is such a man of the people why then not simply make it one vote to one person, abolish the tribal elder privileges and return immediately to democracy?

    Response:…Can’t be done immediately there is no creditable electoral roll and no assistance forthcoming from either NZ or Aust. to set one up.

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  21. jabba (280 comments) says:

    is George Lionred still in jail??
    so, I see there is a Govt job in Fiji open .. where do I apply, I’m looking a bit pale and a bit of sun would do me good.
    Come on Paul B, you must know someone who can “help” with this situation.
    I see Jack Bauer is in NZ, after he has finished the Southland Bike race, he could pop over to Fiji for 24 hours of mayhem.

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