Labour’s Waitakere selection

March 20th, 2010 at 4:43 pm by David Farrar

’s selection meeting for started at 10.30 am, and is still going.

It started with a contested election for the meeting’s rep on the selection panel. The panel effectively has seven members.

  • Three members appointed by Head Office
  • Two members appointed by the Waitakere electorate committee
  • One member appointed by and at the beginning of the selection meeting
  • One vote reflecting the secret ballot after the speeches

The secret ballot vote, as I understand it, is a simple first past the post vote and counts as a vote on the panel for the candidate who gets a plurality. If that candidate falls out of contention (ie it is between two other candidates), then the vote doesn’t count.

The order of speaking was , , and .

Voting after the speeches concluded around three hours ago, so there is obviously some sort of deadlock on the panel, which is taking a while to resolve.

As I understand it McCracken has EPMU support, as he works for them or did work for them. So some of the head office vote may be with him. Pillay, the retiring MP, was EMPU so they probably see the seat as theirs.

Sepuloni is probably the candidate with the best chance to take the fight to Paula Bennett. I don’t think she’ll beat Paula, but she’ll do better than a white middle aged guy would, to be blunt.

Twyford was proclaimed as one of the new high flyers. However if he loses tonight, it will shoot his credibility to shreds, considering it will be his third effective rejection in a row, having been scared off Mt Albert and Auckland Central. Some in Labour will not want to embarrass Twyford like that, even if they think Sepuloni has a better chance.

Eventually the panel will need to eliminate one of the three favourites and then it is a simple two way race, where one candidate needs four out of seven votes.

I’ll blog the result once I hear it.

UPDATE: And it is Carmel Sepuloni. Congratulations to her. As I said above, this is hugely embarassing to Phil Twyford whose nickname already was “Opposition Spokesperson for the Homeless”. He may have to end up Labour candidate in Helensville, or some other unwinnable seat. Or he could move to Mt Roskill and wait until after the next election!

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25 Responses to “Labour’s Waitakere selection”

  1. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Labour, the gift that keeps giving.

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  2. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    I hope McCracken misses out because will won’t be able to call Goff Philin anymore.
    Poor Twyford and why would the west want Caramel butting in for goodness sake .. what is her background??

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  3. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    Labour is starting its candidates selection very early.

    Can someone give the dates of the next candidate selections and who is standing?

    Regarding Phil Twyford there is a fair chance that Ross Robertson or george hawkins may retire in 2011, so Phil Twyford may actually end up with an easily winable seat in South Auckland. If this is the case then those earlier snubs may become a blessing in disguise.

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  4. Johnboy (13,424 comments) says:

    Just imagine the jokes it would have generated if they had “filled” the seat with McCracken. No wonder Sepuloni got the nod.

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  5. David Farrar (1,811 comments) says:

    I understand Hawkins has an anyone but Twyford policy for his seat, so he won’t step aside until he has his successor in place]

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  6. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    I saw poor old George was given something to say after Q time Thursday (or was it Wednesday) .. the poor bloke can hardly speak .. those of you who know how to check out PTV should go have look .. FOR GOD’s SAKE MAN .. RETIRE NOW

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  7. gingercrush (153 comments) says:

    What about Twyford for Northcote? OK its unlikely to be winnable in 2011 but the seat has traditionally swung with whoever makes the government benches.

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  8. Hagues (711 comments) says:

    Yes Jaba, I saw him asking questions to members (select committee questions). He had all his questions written down for him and he still managed to totally fuck them up and look like a retard. The guy can’t even string a sentence together. Disgraceful.

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  9. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    the thing is Hagues .. why do his mates let him make an arse of himself?? .. the bloke has a medical condition and surely he should retire as gracefully as he can and spend time with his family .. I would love to know .. is there something we don’t know??

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  10. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Shane Jones has been putting it round for some little while that he has the Manurewa seat sown up (both he and Hawlins are from Labour’s Right faction).

    He’s pretty much a goneburger up here in the North and realism over loyalty takes precedence every time.

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  11. Pongo (356 comments) says:

    Hawkins questions were unbelievable, was that guy reall a cabinet minister, seriously if you can find the link you should watch it I was surprised it didnt make the news or reality TV.
    At least Paula Bennett is guaranteed the next election no doubt she will be celebrating tonight.

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  12. Doug (405 comments) says:

    Trotter not happy.
    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2010/03/wrong-choice.html

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  13. Pongo (356 comments) says:

    Found it. absolutely brilliant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbJayT7AmPM

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  14. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    thanks Doug .. I’m not a Trotter fan, unless boiled up with veggies to make a soup, but I thought his piece was very good.

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  15. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    are you all sure the result is out .. no mention on RednotsoAlert??

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  16. jims_whare (389 comments) says:

    they r too busy sculling misappropriated wine on a sat night of course

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  17. Rex Widerstrom (5,129 comments) says:

    I don’t think she’ll beat Paula, but she’ll do better than a white middle aged guy would, to be blunt.

    Not disputing that you may well be right, DPF and indeed Chris Trotter is adamant that the candidate needed to be a woman, though he doesn’t think Sepuloni’s got what it takes.

    But is the NZ electorate really that bloody blinkered, shallow and politically correct? I mean if an outstanding middle aged male candidate – say, someone who had an education but who also demonstrated common sense, held down a few steady jobs, owned a successful small business, was full of good ideas and commited to Waitakere as demonstrated by at least a few years spent dedicating his time to the community – was to stand, voters would shrug and go “Yeah, but he has the wrong sex organs”? Seriously?

    There’s only two criteria that ought to matter in sleeting someone to represent us – ability and integrity. When gender starts becoming a factor (given that, if we think gender imbalance is a problem, we can address it via the List), things have gone to hell in a handbasket.

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  18. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    hahaha twatford loses twice

    Maybe he’d do better if his switched his Facebook profile picture from an pro-nationalisation poster to an actual photo of himself. Though that’s not to say that Salmonella will be much cop. Looking forward to seeing how her class-grief and race baiting will go down with the bogans.

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  19. bchapman (649 comments) says:

    Phil should run for Northcote. Isn’t he from there?

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  20. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    “For all these reasons I am campaigning to return Labour to government, and win the seat of North Shore. I grew up on the Shore. My Mum raised five of us at Albany. I went to primary school in Glenfield and did my high school years at Westlake Boys’. The Shore offers a great quality of life and unquestionable beauty but it is feeling the strains of rapid growth and development. I want to serve the people of North Shore and work with them to tackle these challenges.”

    from Goggle .. he seems to be a Tim Shadbolt .. “I don’t care where, as long as I’m Mayor” sort.

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  21. tvb (3,945 comments) says:

    I think it is better to provide a contrast with the sitting candidate especially if the sitting candidate is weak in some areas. Labour needs to get its old working class bloke vote back and they will not do that with this candidate. I think a fairly comfortable win for Paula Bennett

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  22. KiwiGreg (3,129 comments) says:

    “, the retiring MP, was EMPU so they probably see the seat as theirs.”

    I believe it is the voters’ seat.

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  23. jaba (2,069 comments) says:

    at last something about the selection on Redablurt .. from darien Fenton of all people and this is a part of her blurb:
    “Let’s be clear, I live in the more “working class” part of the electorate, not in Titirangi or Oratia or the new housing area where Paula Bennett finally moved to from Epsom”

    what is it about success that these scummy left wingers hate??

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  24. Fale Andrew Lesa (473 comments) says:

    I would be quite surprised if Phil Twyford was to take the safe Labour seat from the Manurewa electorate, as a member of this particular electorate I highly doubt that he is known enough to secure victory.

    The most promising candidate is clearly someone that was raised in Manurewa and there are plenty of political leaders here for the role.

    Surely, Hawkins knows this too.

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  25. Jeremy Harris (323 comments) says:

    Are you kidding Fale..?

    From memory Douglas was Labour’s Manurewa MP at one time and his views don’t exactly match those of the electorate…

    I honestly believe the Labour Party could select a ficus plant, dress it in red and put a Labour Party rosette on it and it would win Manurewa…

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