Lamest ad yet
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:53 pm by David FarrarThis ad is so cringeworthy, it deserves to be seen by a wider audience.
No wonder the creators of the video are anonymous.
Also by chance just had a coastal coalition leaflet in my letterbox. I count five factual errors in it, the largest being that the current law requires Iwi to test their claims in court.
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December 22nd, 2010 at 1:06 pm
misinformation
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
He’s a stupid clown… and thats good.
LOL.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Why on earth have they used British accents?
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Ugh, those text to video creations seem to get worse and worse. The script for this might have sounded ok in the author’s head when he thought it up, but it’s lost all the vocal inflections that might have helped it make sense.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Except that the current law DOES require Iwi to test their claims in court.
Section 67 gives the High Court jurisdiction to reward customary rights orders, and s33 allows the High Court to determine if Iwi hold any territorial customary rights. The Maori Land Court and Maori Appellate Court also have roles to play under the Act.
Yes, s96 allows the Attorney-General and Minister of Maori Affairs to enter into an agreement with Iwi in regard to territorial customary rights – but that’s only AFTER the High Court has determined what rights the Iwi have.
Always best to do some research before engaging in cheerleading.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
That’s because the site used to create the video is one that uses text-to-speech. You just type in the words and create gestures (head nods and such) for the virtual actors (a limited number of actors in the non-paying version) meaning that anyone can create these videos, and have. They aren’t professionally produced
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
That’s gotta rate right up there with the ‘hit’ reality TV show ‘One Land’. It’s made in one of those online ‘make your own movie’ apps I believe. Seriously, Manu is right, we ought to do anything possible to keep boofy haired gingas off our beaches. Think of our international image.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
ps, this video, using the same method, is quite good in showing how foreign policy of the US (as extracted from Wikileaks) with regard to how they will make peace in the Middle East. It can all be fixed by stopping Israelis build schools and supermarkets…lol
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December 22nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
It’s all about a dispute between poms and muzis. One’s a ginga and the other’s a chocolate covered banana.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 1:59 pm
That video was weird, not the slightest bit entertaining or informative which accurately explains the Coastal Coalition, a bunch of weirdo’s.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Lol that’s so bad. It’s like they gave Stephen Hawking’s speech synthesiser BBC elocution lessons, and put a teleprompter in front of a pulp fiction author.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm
At least it does make the point that anyone who disagrees with the bill is seen as racist and bigoted.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
At least it does make the point that anyone who disagrees with the bill is seen as racist and bigoted.
That is also an error, gross generalisation, a few may see some that way but I’m sure there is a far bigger variety of impressions than that.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
As a film, its amateur. I’ll let the coalition fight out the facts as they are willing to do in court or elsewhere.
But for sheer 24-carat crass, the Vodafone ad appearing on the NZ Herald’s website takes the cookie.
“Nothing says Christmas like a Vodafone Warriors family membership”
Nothing says “no class” like that ad
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Notching says “no class” like being a member of the Warriors fan club.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 3:15 pm
I can only assume someone who really hates the Coastal Coalition made this and let it loose on teh interwebz.
Is this an official effort by them, DPF? You’d know as well as I do, sometimes in politics your supporters make cringeworthy stuff. I remember discovering someone had registered the NZF domain name and set up a web site using… *gulp*… FrontPage. Needless to say, it didn’t last long after my discovery.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
“Notching says “no class” like being a member of the Warriors fan club.”
Uh oh, the Panda sports club has arrived.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
As far as I know this is not officially from the Coastal Coalition.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Don’t want to sound naive, but can someone explain why it is “cringeworthy” please? Compared to what for example?
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Does it make more sense after watching this:
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7148143/
which is (I think) the original clip?
The subject matters are entirely different, but the use of monodrone voices makes more sense…
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
It may not have been made by them, but they have endorsed it by posting it on Facebook by their group (I have added them as a ‘like’)
(Sorry, perhaps those names should be blurred out. DPF, feel free to remove or blur if this is the case.)
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm
“That video was weird, not the slightest bit entertaining or informative which accurately explains the Coastal Coalition, a bunch of weirdo’s.”
I guess I should have read the thread a bit closer. There’s a post that makes it all extremely clear. One thing I like about Kiwiblog commenters. Always ready with such informed and objective analysis.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm
@Fletch:
Which, in politics, you have to do to keep your base feeling involved. It’s like when your kids bring home a finger painting that looks like something Bobby Sands left on his cell wall… you put it on the fridge so as not to hurt their feelings
Redbaiter asks:
Compared to this for a start [Warning: features Sarah Palin as a machinegun-wielding action hero. You might want to draw the curtains
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Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm
“Also by chance just had a coastal coalition leaflet in my letterbox. I count five factual errors in it, the largest being that the current law requires Iwi to test their claims in court.”
David, what are the other 4? Let me look into it for you.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Well you are racist and bigottrd are you not Fletch ?
Vote:Well nothing like being handed the names of those who made or transferred that video dear boy.
I wonder if my mob would want those names
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:01 pm
KiwiAlpha said…
Why on earth have they used British accents?
We’re still years away, before automated speech generation & processing can replicate human-like voice. The technology is improving, but we’re not there yet.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
grumpy, those aren’t the names of those who made or transferred the video. They are just people who have added Coastal Coalition to their facebook groups and commented on the video that whoever runs Coastal Coalition has uploaded.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
What I can’t follow is the Party that is in favour of private property rights is trying to deny Maori their legitimate property rights. There aren’t many beaches that Maori “own” outright, and if they do own them then it should be up to them who they let in or not, just like I do at my house.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
# Michael (223) Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
What I can’t follow is the Party that is in favour of private property rights is trying to deny Maori their legitimate property rights. There aren’t many beaches that Maori “own” outright, and if they do own them then it should be up to them who they let in or not, just like I do at my house.
Well this post shows the ignorance of the issues by most and that they really can’t be bothered finding out let alone bothering to defend the principles of ownership. Its not about what they own its about what The Nats and their Maori sleeping partner minister is going to give to Maori without due process in any court and without consultation with NZ electorate. Basically they are changing our constitution to please themselves.
Vote:Act have always said that the Courts should decide but no the Nats. under Findlayson want to do what even Clark wouldn’t do. Make it a Ministers decision with all the pork barreling that will go with it. Key is naive and Findlayson a scum List MP who over rates himself and is going to do this come hell or high water with no mandate. Once its done he will quit and go back to the Treaty gravy train. No a longterm MP but one there for a particular purpose that will disadvantage all NZer’s.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Finlayson is obviously a bloody mole who has spent his apprenticeship genning up at the Waitangi pork barrel training school.
God know how he has conned that nice Mr Key and that nice Mr English.
Perhaps they have been taken in by his pin stripe suits and fruity voice or perhaps they felt they needed a person of his bent to appeal to a wider cross section of the community.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Michael at 9.15 posted:
Nuts! The argument is about whether a number of beaches should be handed over to Maori tribes or hapu, and if so whether any property rights gifted to them should be legally trimmed to protect access rights of the rest of the national population, the people handing the property over.
IMHO, National is selling out the non-Maori majority on this issue. Maori claims are being settled left and right, Ngati Porou the most recent. More grievances will be settled. But handing over beaches on race grounds smacks of offical racial separation, of apartheid.
I like much of what Key is doing, but on this issue, it seems to me, in the interests of political party strategy, Key is selling out non-Maori — and those Maori and “mixed” NZers who identify as Maori but who have lost links with iwi.
Vote:December 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Well paraphrased Jack.
Do you think we need Winston back. It will only take 5%.
Vote:December 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 am
Meghan, it’s not the same clip, it’s just that there are a limited number of computer generated “actors” and sets in the free version which people can use. They then type in the script and the actors say it.
Vote:December 23rd, 2010 at 9:13 am
Anyone else want to point out to Farrar that Maori have to go to Court to prove title under the current act – or should we just leave him be?
DPF – happy to be proven wrong but my search of the Foreshore and Seabed Act directly contradicts what you proclaim in your post. You should therefore either shoot me down or fix your own ‘factual error’.
Vote:December 23rd, 2010 at 11:07 am
David, Maori can go to court in the current legislation. There has been a lot of misinformation. There is even a clause in there that makes it illegal for Maori to charge money for the use of the waterways and beaches. If they can’t go to court, why is that clause in there? By the way, Finlayson conveniently left that out in his new bill which is standard in Parliament if you want to cancel a statute out. Tell your boss, John Key, he’s going to loose the next election if this passes. What are the other 4 points you say are misleading in the Coastal Coalition’s flyer?
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