A double fisking for No Right Turn

February 24th, 2011 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

has had a double fisking in the last couple of days. , a tax expert, has fisked him over his claims of tax dodging by corporates (he failed to even read the notes to the accounts).

And on the other side of the spectrum constitutional law professor has politely rubbished his posts about the national state of emergency. We’ll start with that.

NRT blogged here and here that the calling of a national state of emergency is:

National states of emergency are intended for disasters affecting the entire country – wars, epidemics, that sort of thing. Instead, we’re seeing one cynically used for political purposes, essentially for spin. That is a gross abuse of power, and one we should not accept.

and

Make no mistake: this is a cynical political exercise, all about who gets the limelight (and hence the credit) in an election year. Again, it is a gross abuse of power. But entirely par for the course for National.

Now Professor Geddis has himself been very willing to criticise the Government when he feels they are acting inappropriately with regard to their powers. He criticised the Act responding to the last earthquake and the sacking of ECan. But in this instance he says:

To use a phrase much beloved of I/S himself, I call bullshit.

First up, the declaration of a national state of emergency does not mean that there is now a power to do all the horribly draconian things that he claims can be done in places like Invercargill, Whangarei or other places far from Christchurch. All the powers given under the Civil Defence Emergency Management Act 2002 (CDEMA) can only be exercised for the specific purpose of things like “saving life, preventing injury, or rescuing and removing injured or endangered persons”, or “prevent[ing] or limit[ing] the extent of the emergency”.

There is no way that these purposes can be said to exist outside of the immediate environs of Christchurch, so the specter of the police “clos[ing] public spaces in Invercargill” or the like in the wake of this declaration is a complete red herring.

So that puts paid to the so called gross abuse of power.  And as for why make it a national state of emergency:

But what about emergency situations where the resources of a single Group are inadequate to respond? There, help from other Groups may be needed. But getting that help requires those in charge of the affected Group to coordinate with those in charge of others, which is yet another task on top of the many they will have already. Furthermore, all they can do is ask for help – which other Groups may or may not be able to give, depending on availability.

However, now that there is a state of national emergency, two things can happen. First, the Director of Civil Defence Emergency Management can take over the coordinating role between different Groups and centralise that process. Second, the Director can instruct other Groups to initiate their own emergency management plans and thus release resources to help Canterbury.

These powers may not be as earth shattering as empowering the police to shut down central Invercargill, but neither are they insignificant. Indeed, it isn’t going overboard to say that the fate of people’s lives may depend on the bureaucratic niceties involved in the declaration of national emergency.

Geddis concludes:

So, like I say – I/S’s posts regrettably are bullshit. I rather fear that he’s fallen victim to exactly the disease he accuses John Key and National of … being so partisan in outlook that everything must have a motive other than the obvious one.

Sometimes even politicians just want to do the right thing.

Cactus Kate is equally blunt when it comes to I/S’s financial literacy. He blogged:

Infratil [PDF] reported a pretax profit of $106 million, but paid only $11 million in tax – an effective rate of 10.4%

This was part of a series to make everyone think that all these evil corporate are evading tax and not paying their fair share. He even got Trevor Mallard blogging in agreement, which tells us much about Trevor’s financial literacy. The difference is NRT is just a blogger, and Trevor was once an Associate Finance Minister.

Cactus Kate explains:

If you click on Infratil’s accounts for example (they are the only one I could find with a comprehensive explanation of their tax balances) on page 53 you will see that here they take the net profit before tax and show a line-by-line adjustment on the tax numbers. The explanation of deferred and current tax is even made by the company in its accounts at page 45 in relatively simple terms.

The explanation for Infratil not paying the full company tax rate is a massive $30.4 million write-back in the “Net investment realisations/impairment”.

It had absolutely nothing to do with tax avoidance, evasion, shirking of their duty or offshore structuring. No cheating. All accounts are audited and signed off by professionals using NZ accounting standards.

And the killer blow is:

If NRT looked at pg 53 he will see that for the 2009 year Infratil made a net loss of $93.8 million before tax, yet had a tax expense of $34.6 million? How can a company making a loss NRT and pay all that tax? Based on the raw presentation of his data this makes no sense at all does it? Why? Because you have to read the data contained in the tax reconciliation and interpreted what has happened in the company.

Perhaps before No Right Thought engaged his fingers defaming a very wide range of directors in New Zealand as “cheating” on company taxes, he may just like to learn how to read and engage his brain and find out just why each corporate hasn’t paid the full tax rate for that particular year.

When you get fisked by both Cactus Kate and Andrew Geddis/Pundit in the same week, you’re not having a good one.

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80 Responses to “A double fisking for No Right Turn”

  1. XChequer (350 comments) says:

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke :-)

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  2. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    Ya can’t just take a glance at the regulations and the situation and make conclusions. Anyone in the real world knows that – if law was that easy to interpret we would have no lawyers. Tax law is the worst of all.

    But nice to know that such rantings are based on such flimsy analysis.

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  3. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    But you gotta love the thinking that says that the ability to arrest people in Invercargill for random reasons is an election winner.

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  4. Lance (2,309 comments) says:

    I can see the scene now, Dee St after dark…..
    I’m arresting you for wearing poofter clothes, in public and in a built up area after the hours of 9:00 pm.

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  5. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    Well theres an ESAD moment for the wool blind commie prick.

    Hell we all knew that no matter what Key did in response there would be an extremist left wing accusation of it being a political stunt. But frankly I’m appalled that they came out swinging so early on while people are still being pulled out of the rubble and with such an obvious load of bullshit.

    Makes me think its political oportunism and I/S doesn’t see the people of Christchurch as anything other than a useful tool in his political hackery.

    On the impressive side he has actually dropped in my estimation, I had not thought that was possible. Hell the looters are a better class of parasite today.

    Utterly shameful grandstanding I/S. Go play on the motorway.

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  6. bobux (349 comments) says:

    From p4 of The Dominion today

    The declaration of a national state of emergency allowed the usual air-noise curfew between about 1am to 6am to be broken so flights could arrive and leave Wellington Airport throughout the night

    Sorry NRT, but you really have become a joke.

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  7. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    BECOME????? Been there for a while Bobux. Lets just be grateful he didn’t claim the earthquake was all a right wing plot.

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  8. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    This isn’t even close to his low point after the S59 referendum when he said F*** you to NZ, and demanded that the children of people who disagreed with him be removed from their parents – might as well have called for political dissidents to be rounded up.

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  9. gravedodger (1,426 comments) says:

    I can accept the idiotic response from NRT and his equally idiotic “riverton echo chamber” with their pathological hatred of the “baby eater” in trying to connect the National S o E versus a regional response as an Election strategy, as their crass stupidity is ongoing and highly visible to the blogosphere.
    Of so much greater concern is the revelation by Cactus of the total financial illiteracy of one Mallard,Trevor when without the pressure of an interview situation comes out with such an obvious faux pas on something as simple as tax liability for a large entity. This from a person who as a minister in the previous administration including assoc Min of Finance and if he lives long enough (we can but hope) will in all liklyhood be in a subsequent government.
    What a total tosser first class.
    Make that 3 total tossers.

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  10. freedom101 (439 comments) says:

    Don’t scoff at Trevor Mallard. He knows how to play the game. Even though he knows that what he’s saying is untrue he also knows two other things:

    1. The MSM will not hold him to account.
    2. His core constituency and many swing voters will believe him.

    That’s Labour party politics for you, and sadly it is quite effective.

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  11. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    gravedodger: you were under the impression that politicians knew what they’re doing? When Obama was elected I suddenly realised that pretty much any guy off the street can be a politician. They’re amateurs.

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  12. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    freedom101: that too. Labour’s never been too worried about the truthful basis of it’s criticism – evidence the multiple times they’ve criticised the govt for policies *they* put in place or started (ECAN?)

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  13. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    the knobjockey says “National states of emergency are intended for disasters affecting the entire country – wars, epidemics, that sort of thing. ”

    If a natural disaster affects 400,000 people, the largest economic centre in the Sth Isl, one of the major manufacturing bases in NZ I would suggest that constitutes a national emergency.

    Then we get to the humanitarian kiwi’s sticking together angle of which knobjockey seems liberally oblivious.

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  14. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    expat: True. I don’t know if NI people realised this, but supermarkets in Dunedin were disrupted for weeks after, simply as one of the more minor side effects of the disaster last time. Of course it was very minor in comparison, but just making the point that Chch is a lynch-pin in many sectors of the SI.

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  15. Bill Courtney (107 comments) says:

    I suppose NRT’s analysis of corporate tax was as weak as DPF’s analysis the other day of the secondary principals’ collective agreement settlement.

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  16. BeaB (1,948 comments) says:

    It boggles the mind that anyone would see political opportunism in the grey face of our PM who, perhaps more than anyone, can see the tragedy and grief in Chrischurch, not to mention the long-term costs for the country.
    One thing we know about this man John Key – what you see is what you get and what he says he means. I have no doubt of the depth of his empathy for those suffering in Christchurch, his own home town.
    Political advantage is doubtless far from his mind unlike Silly Phil’s desperate posturing in front of any available camera.
    You can excuse the perennial whingers who want power, water and food instantly restored but people who set themselves up as pundits should try for some credibility.

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  17. Murray (8,835 comments) says:

    got anything to say on the matter at hand bill because that was the lamest attempt at distraction I’ve ever seen.

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  18. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    DPF, you give some attention here to Idiot/S, which he doesn’t deserve, because he gets most things he blogs about wrong.

    I read here on Kiwiblog that he’s some sort of academics and I criticized him for his irrelevant postings (& getting facts wrong) in the past, and one or two of Idiot/S supporters here accused me of being anti-intellectual. My reply was, that I’m not (I’m pro-intellectual) but in fact, I’m anti-bullshit.

    Most leftists see any established formal branch at a University regardless of what the field of study is, as intellectual. Well, there are some Universities which have paranormal/psychic research departments. Does anyone think that this is intellectual? Nope, it is bullshit, and it doesn’t matter whether those researchers are professors or have PhDs, its still bullshit. There’s no intellectual there. I suspect that Idiot/S must be one of those academics who is from a bullsh*t intellectual department or discipline. At RedAlert , they reference Idiot/S a lot in their postings. They praise him or hold him up as some sort of great intellectuals.

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  19. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Scrubone said…
    Anyone in the real world knows that – if law was that easy to interpret we would have no lawyers. Tax law is the worst of all.

    In the future, when automated tax expert system become widely available, then the reliance on tax experts will diminish. It is not a question of if, it is a question of when.

    Accounting software such as Xero is starting to make accountants redundant themselves (similar to tax experts) and this trend will continue into the future.

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  20. redeye (626 comments) says:

    I’m not really up on blog-speak. I misread the headline and thought it read “A double fisting for no right turn“.

    Which of course has left me with a visual image I cannot shake.

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  21. Pete George (21,812 comments) says:

    A Freudian interpretation redeye? You think that’s what NRT deserves?

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  22. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    Pete, how does that line of questioning make you feel? Powerful?

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  23. 3-coil (1,184 comments) says:

    NRT – can you see Russia from your house?

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  24. dog_eat_dog (679 comments) says:

    Unlikely Falafulu – human knowledge can be updated quicker than any software, and you still need auditors to check the strength of any system you implement.

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  25. Bill Courtney (107 comments) says:

    Murray, I think you missed the point of my comment and the original blog entry. DPF was attempting to attack another blogger for being “fisked” for his superficial analysis of the effective corporate tax rates paid by some large companies. Perhaps if NRT had wanted to do this in more depth, he may well have analysed the use of the structured finance transcations by the big banks. These led to a $2.3 billion settlement following the High Court case brought by the IRD. What DPF did the other day with the principals’ settlement was equally shallow. He attempted to interpret the settlement in a way that suited his ideology and to then also attack the PPTA. However, he missed the fact that the PPTA was heavily involved in those negotiations!

    My main point is that this is, unfortunately, a natural outcome of blogging. Most entries serve to merely reinforce prejudices and ideologies and meanignful discussion and debate takes a back seat. This is a pity as some of these blogs do open up genuinely valuable debate. I can’t see how this one did.

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  26. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    DED said…
    human knowledge can be updated quicker than any software,

    Well I agree but that’s only true in certain domains, but our modern technology is advancing very fast. Current expert system development is hindered by hardware speed and inference mechanism execution (ie, inferring correct consequence based on a given fact/premise). These problems have improved over the last few years and it will continue to get better and better.

    Taxation laws is static. It is not dynamic (well except when it changes once in a while). An automated tax expert system can only be updated when that happens (when tax laws changes). The great thing about expert system is that it can prune old knowledge that doesn’t work anymore (say some taxation laws have changed) and store new knowledge in its knowledge based engine for live use. Well it is sort of human like reasoning. Researches in this domain of expert system, which are published in a few journals (Expert Systems
    - The Journal of Knowledge Engineering
    published by Wiley and EXPERT SYSTEMS WITH APPLICATIONS published by Elsevier), have accelerated in the last decade and as I said, its going to get better and better.

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  27. expat (4,048 comments) says:

    “the PPTA was heavily involved in those negotiations”

    any chance of explaining why this means that farrars post was shallow, ideological and misleading?

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  28. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    I/S should stick to organising the Kapcon roleplaying convention.

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  29. burt (7,085 comments) says:

    I/S reminds us all again why no comments can be made on NRT.

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  30. rouppe (852 comments) says:

    If anyone is doing any limelight hogging it is Phil Goff.

    Why has he travelled to Christchurch?
    * He has no responsibility with regard to the emergency.
    * He is not an MP of the area
    * He can make no decisions of any consequence to assist

    He is simply there to get his face on the camera.

    John Key on the other hand, travelled there to see first hand what is going on so that
    * He can make decisions regarding welfare, medical and other appropriate resources available to the Government
    * He can direct the military to dispatch appropriate personnel to the area
    * He can accept and deploy overseas offers of help
    * He can direct the national resources of Civil Defence to the area – which required the declaration of the National State of Emergency

    No Right Turn should do just that. Eventually he’ll reach a coast and hopefully keep going.

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  31. Grendel (873 comments) says:

    Malcolm (I/S) is not an academic. thats the way he has tried to justify being too lazy to leave university.

    You see he is (or at least was) one of those eternal students, who just keeps doing degrees becuase he won;t join the real world. first sponging off the rest of us and then off his partner.

    he is scum who has no intent of contributing to society. i was at a party he was at and someone asked him how his jobhunt was going. he replied quite flippantly that he had looked at a job he was qualified to do, but “did not want to be one of ‘those’ people”. he was only really looking to appease others, but with no intention of actually working. for him, having a job means selling out, and he would not deign to swim amongst the muck of the rest of us by you know actually working.

    i am not sure why he is considered an intellectual, i have seen nothing from him that anyone who can read and has all day to do what they want could do.

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  32. AG (1,727 comments) says:

    rouppe: “If anyone is doing any limelight hogging it is Phil Goff.”

    Oh, FFS. Phil Goff didn’t “travel to Christchurch”. He was already at Christchurch airport when the earthquake struck. He then went into the town to see if there was anything he could do to help. See http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8883162/goff-offers-christchurch-mayor-help/

    Like it or not, he is the leader of the main opposition party in NZ. His going into the city was an indication that all political leaders will unite on this issue. I mean, what do you think he should have done? Hidden out at the airport in case a building fell on him? Got the hell out as quick as he could? Yeah – I’m sure you’d have praised him to the skies for that!!!

    As for John Key’s “powers”, he isn’t the Minister of Civil Defence. That is John Carter, who exercises all the powers under the CDEMA. So John Key is in Christchurch doing exactly what he should be doing – providing a public face as leader of the Government that can reassure all affected that everything is being done that can be done and that the nation is behind them. He’s being a political leader, ’cause that’s his job … and he’s doing it very, very well.

    Can we all just, for a day or so, put aside our fucking partisan blinkers and accept that Christchurch is in a really, really bad way and that all MPs just want to help out as best they can? Why is that so difficult?

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  33. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    DPF, some words of advice, no publicity is bad publicity.

    Why even mention the prick?

    It was like that guy who criticized you in his blog last year.

    You are da blogging buddha in NZ.

    Jesus, how many hits do you get a day?

    You mention them, they love it.

    Why even give them the time of day?

    When I finally get around to printing my books you will be where I will pay to advertise them.

    Now you advertise these losers for free.

    If it is revenge, or to destroy them, I can understand totally.

    A fine balance though.

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  34. alwyn (359 comments) says:

    Rouppe at 11.06am
    Give Phil a break on this one for goodness sake.
    He was in Christchurch BEFORE the Earthquake. He didn’t just hop on a plane and rush down there as you imply.
    I agree that there isn’t a lot that he can personally do but seeing what is going on can only help when any action is required by Parliament.
    I am also quite sure that if he had left Christchurch after the quake there would have been claims made on some rightwing blogs that he was fleeing in terror.
    Attacking his presence in ChCh is as silly as the posts I saw on the Standard, since deleted, that attacked Gerry Brownkie for not being in the country when the quake happened.

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  35. Clint Heine (1,560 comments) says:

    The same Malcolm I/S who was only just recently getting all excited about the prospect of protesting at the death of Margaret Thatcher. It seems not only is he not an academic, he is a perpetual student who is sucking up as much of our tax dollars at the expense of real students as he can.

    Thanks Grendel for that excellent post on him. The sooner Malcolm Harbrow is exposed for being an utter twat the better.

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  36. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Yes Phil is a nice guy, nice guys always come last.

    Hardly a man you would want to lead an opposition then?

    Yes, he shouldn’t be criticized but let’s face it, what could he do?

    Swap him for Bob Parker, or Mike Laws at this time, then maybe Labour are talking.

    Until then they are squeaking into the next election.

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  37. Bobbie black (507 comments) says:

    Malcolm Harbow, that’s quite a name, hehe.

    :)

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  38. nasska (9,520 comments) says:

    Bill Courtney @ 10.32am

    “My main point is that this is, unfortunately, a natural outcome of blogging. Most entries serve to merely reinforce prejudices and ideologies and meanignful (sic) discussion and debate takes a back seat. ”

    Articles written by bloggers & the comments they attract are no more than people’s opinions formed by their ideologies based on information received. As such they would differ little from the discussions held in pubs, clubs & workplaces everywhere. Sometimes people get it right & often they get it wrong…….it’s up to the reader to sort the wheat from the chaff.

    One thing holds consistent & that is the theory of garbage in = garbage out. So much news & info is mangled & spun in the form of press releases which are accepted unquestioningly by the MSM that few of us have access to unadulterated facts. The example of DPF’s article mentioning the PPTA could be a case in point.

    I would suggest that taking bloggers to task for the MSM’s laziness is less than helpful.

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  39. Grendel (873 comments) says:

    no probs clint. if i could stomach being anywhere the troll i would know more, but he makes me sick to be around.

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  40. david (2,482 comments) says:

    So this Harbow character is Wellington’s answer to Phil U. Now what was the question?

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  41. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Thanks for that info Grendel. Now I understand why Malcolm is being a lefty. He thinks that society owes him.

    I wondered if he’s still living at home with his mum? Perhaps the main reason is that he needs his bottle of milk to be prepared for him by his mum every time he’s hungry. Does anyone know if this is the case?

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  42. Grendel (873 comments) says:

    from memory he has a girlfriend or maybe wife now, who (again from memory) does actually work.

    he was involved in KAOS at uni and possibly also the SCA (massive crossover in those groups anyway), so has a lot of contacts there.

    people who are otherwise very intelligent but will also say with absolute sincerity, “meritocracies are a bad idea”, and “i dont trust rich people becuase they want others to live a worse life so they can maintain their wealth”.

    well meaning, intelligent, but deluded and wrong. a large amount of Malcolms support is from these people. which is why he gets quoted so often. they think he being clear and succinct and offering good research, rather than the usual one eyed pandering he actually prints.

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  43. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    Malcolm does some good research. He just lacks the experience to put some of it in it’s proper context, and is inclined to overstate things.

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  44. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    …a trait he shares with many others.

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  45. Brian Smaller (3,915 comments) says:

    I misread the title of this post and thought “well you just never know what gets some people going”

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  46. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    All decent bloggers that i’ve read jump the gun at times. He does endless OIA requests that keep the pollies accountable. He seeks to shed light on the dark corners of NZ politics where he suspects corruption may be festering, and in doing so, adds to the health of our democracy. No wonder the right hate him.

    Kiwiblog is mostly just a clipping service which encourages rabidly inhumane views to be aired by various RWNJs.

    IMO I/S is ten times the blogger that DPF is.

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  47. david (2,482 comments) says:

    So nothing humble about your opinion magic bullet eh?

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  48. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    Hey, so thanks for adding absolutely nothing to the dialectical process david.

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  49. big bruv (12,357 comments) says:

    “and in doing so, adds to the health of our democracy.”

    You just cannot take anybody seriously who says this when they supported the EFA and its blatant attack on democracy.

    I/S is nothing more than a left wing hack who has no interest at all in democracy, he wants a socialist government and will do or say anything to get what he wants.

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  50. Say Goodbye to Hollywood (552 comments) says:

    Magic Bullet, real blogs allow readers to comment. Unlike I/S who is basically a coward and doesn’t like to be held accountable.

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  51. AG (1,727 comments) says:

    “Magic Bullet, real blogs allow readers to comment. Unlike I/S who is basically a coward and doesn’t like to be held accountable.”

    Yep – I think this thread is a fantastic advertisement for the value that comments can add to the blogosphere.

    Other people I hate:
    Justin Beiber
    Captain Caveman
    The replacement Milky Bar Kid
    Simon Dallow
    The Guy Who Stood Behind David Kirk At Eden Park When He Held Up The Rugby World Cup Back In 1987 – You Know The One … He Stared At The Camera And Waved Like He’d Won The Bloody Thing Himself … What A Tosser.

    Boy, I love these “real blogs”. They’re so democratic, any idiot can take part.

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  52. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    Bruv – being a bit simplistic again. The post-SC EFB wasn’t anti-democratic. It was more the poor process, and concomitant poor drafting (in a few places) that left-wing commentators like I/S opposed, and he was right for doing so.

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  53. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    AG and sgbh – i think the persistent death threats from the right is what put him off allowing comments. With all the survivalist gun-nuts on the right (you know who you are) i can’t really blame him.

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  54. RightNow (6,338 comments) says:

    “He seeks to shed light on the dark corners of NZ politics where he suspects corruption may be festering, and in doing so, adds to the health of our democracy. No wonder the right hate him.”

    Uh yeah, is that in the same vein of National deciding to open up MP’s expenses to public scrutiny being the reason the left hate National?

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  55. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    Right Now:

    Umm – Rodney Hide? Mellisa Lee? Dona Awatere-Huata? and i could go on and on and on. Anyhow – didn’t the left parties vote for that?

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  56. RightNow (6,338 comments) says:

    magic bullet:

    Umm – what about Hide? Lee? Huata? Please elaborate on why you’ve mentioned their names. Can you think of any more names from ‘the right’? No? How about from ‘the left’? Please do go on and on and on.

    Because I think you really struggled to come up with 3 names, one of them hasn’t even been an MP for years, from the right, trying really hard to ignore the bulk of the names coming from the left.

    Of course you say I/S is 10x the blogger DPF is, and yet here you are. Why?

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  57. ferrouswheel (1 comment) says:

    @AG thanks for making reasonable comments.

    @Falafulu Fisi You may think paranormal research isn’t intellectual, but it depends on how it’s conducted… you can do “paranormal” research in a scientific way. Numerous quantum effects would be consider “paranormal” by the lay person and some of the subtle influences on quantum outcome are, frankly, weird. And all this is completely unrelated to the discussion so I don’t know why you bother making such flippant remarks about a study area.

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  58. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    “Of course you say I/S is 10x the blogger DPF is, and yet here you are. Why?”

    I’m a masochist? Dunno really. Maybe i enjoy picking on bullies? Hard to say.

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  59. magic bullet (776 comments) says:

    Also, what about Blinglish? The overlord of double-dipton? The deputy leader of a party without principle.

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  60. RightNow (6,338 comments) says:

    Even for a troll you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel don’t you think? Let me know when you’re ready for me to start my list ok? It’s a bit long but if you want to play the game I’m up for it.

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  61. alex Masterley (1,438 comments) says:

    “He seeks to shed light on the dark corners of NZ politics where he suspects corruption may be festering, and in doing so, adds to the health of our democracy. No wonder the right hate him.”

    Crikey, he must be Penny Brights love child.

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  62. big bruv (12,357 comments) says:

    Come on Rightnow, post that list and bury the silly woman.

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  63. david (2,482 comments) says:

    Oooeeeuuuwwww BB you aren’t suggesting that the magic bullet has a lead and plugs in to the 240v are you?

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  64. RightNow (6,338 comments) says:

    Oh THAT magic bullet david… I suspect it runs on wind power.

    Anyway, here’s an entree bruv:

    Phil Goff – sold that house yet Phil? the one you promised to sell but are still claiming an allowance for?
    The Greens – padding their superannuation fund a la Goff
    Shane Jones – tossing his salad at the taxpayer’s expense
    Chris Carter – enough said, but then in a way I’m looking forward to more from him this year
    Ruth Dyson – had a $16k ‘last hoorah’ to Ethiopia. No – I don’t believe she would have paid it back if the expenses were kept secret.
    T P Field – guilty of being too helpful, the Labour euphemism for being corrupt.
    Daljit Singh – electoral fraud
    Len Brown – where to start? Let’s just focus on the Volare dinner. After refusing to say who was there, and having Leigh Auton obfuscate even in the face of an OIA, it turns out the dinner attendees include Auton himself. Not to mention Richard Jefferey who Len gave a CCO appointment to.

    Am happy to crowd source this list if anyone else wants to chip in.

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  65. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Magic Bullet,

    You should stop reading I/S because you won’t learn anything new from there. What you get from there is his irrelevant rantings. I suggest you start reading Not PC blog, because that blog will educate you on a wide varieties of topics from politics, economics, philosophy, history, art, architecture, music, science, engineering and many more. If you walk in to his mini-library, you would mistaken it for a University library, simply for the stacks & stacks of books on various topics in his bookshelves.

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  66. nasska (9,520 comments) says:

    RightNow @ 3.58pm

    Mita Ririnui’s little spend up on golf clubs & a bike could be worthy of mention.

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  67. Grant Michael McKenna (1,152 comments) says:

    I’m reminded of the Giles’ cartoon of Lord Beaverbrook being carted off to the Tower after Prince Philip had described the “Daily Express” as being a ‘bloody awful paper’; Giles had Beaverbrook saying something like “Oh well, at least we know he subscribes to the paper”.
    No Right Turn can at least take comfort that some of the readers are of such good quality; pity about the duck.

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  68. Offshore_Kiwi (557 comments) says:

    the police … shut down central Invercargill

    I’ve been to Invercargill, and I’d like to know how one would know it had happened?

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  69. Hurf Durf (2,860 comments) says:

    Malcolm Harbrow, why didn’t you just use your real name or IS instead of magic bullet? There’s no point hiding it.

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  70. nickb (3,629 comments) says:

    Poor Malcolm, one of those woe-is-me eternal students that move out into the real world when they are around 34 and have obtained a Doctor of Arts in pol sci or similar. Generally to be found hanging around the vegetarian cafe’s on campus extolling the virtues of Castro or Guevara while wearing tea cosies on their heads.

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  71. Texarkana (1 comment) says:

    Grendel’s characterisation of KAOS and the SCA is a bit off. KAOS is a social club on a few New Zealand campuses. The SCA is a worldwide medieval hobby group with tens of thousands of members, most of whom have never heard of KAOS. As the ceremonial leadership positions in the SCA are determined by trial by combat, a certain degree of meritocracy is accepted there. As for KAOS – its a bunch of young university students, you’d expect them to say/support a wide range of causes and ideas, its what young people do.

    (Disclosure, I’m an active member of the SCA and a life member of KAOS, have a PhD in Pol Sci and my Che t-shirt features the slogan “Communism Killed 80 Million people and all I got was this lousy t-shirt).

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  72. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (856 comments) says:

    sorry “magic bullet” its pretty clear who you are, why don’t you get brave Malcolm, use your real name, maybe get a job, or if you believe the shit you write, why not try and stand for office, or at least go and work for the socialist workers party, because frankly commenting about yourself when using a sock-puppet identity is, well, a bit sad.

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  73. jingyang (2 comments) says:

    I love how many of the posters here who are flinging around I/S’ ‘real’ name and telling him to stop using a pseudonym are using pseudonyms themselves…

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  74. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Ferrousiouswheel said…
    You may think paranormal research isn’t intellectual,

    No, it isn’t. There is nothing intellectual, there. If you think there is, then show me. Show me some claims which proven that the laws of quantum mechanics have validated paranormal. Remember, cite the journal name & title, volume number of the specific article, authors, publisher & year of publication. Researchers in that area have tried to link quantum mechanics as indirectly proof of paranormal. Let me tell you that it is not. I know quantum mechanics inside out, so don’t go there, because you don’t know about the detail of the subject to even bring it up as somehow it proves that paranormal exists.

    May I suggest that you start with the following article as a precursor to any question about the subject that you may ask:

    A quantum of common sense

    Read it, then pose your next question here if paranormal is somehow explained by quantum mechanics.

    Ok, the next move is yours. I await your response. Your turn!!!

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  75. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (856 comments) says:

    yeah jingyang, and every time i use my blog name to boost my own identity, you can call me a hypocrite.

    But until then, you have failed to actually make a valid point. Because clearly you fail to understand either why people use blog names, or what hypocrite actually means, as opposed to trying to show how clever you are – and clearly you think you are clever, because you too the effort to sign up and log on to share with us your wisdom.

    I bow to your superior deductive reaoning.

    bwuhahaha

    But can I suggest a thought experiment. As someone of potentially Chinese extraction (assuming you have used your real name) What would happen if you wrote, using your real name, on a Chinese blog and called for freedom for Tibet, or the pointing out the corruption of senior communist officials?

    Now lets bring the analogy home. Imagine what would happen if a business or government person during the Clark years blogged using their own name about the labour government stealing the 2005 election, and then sought a contract from a State agency (not unheard of given the state is 40% of the NZ economy). We saw Labour attempt to demonise their opponents and to destroy their welfare (Kit Richards, Madeleine Setchell, Peter Doone. Christine Rankin anyone?) This is why most people here use blog names.

    Malcolm of course sitting in lefty academic circles faces precisely zero consequences for spouting his nonsense. By definition he is unemployable in the productive sector.

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  76. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Deity said…
    Malcolm of course sitting in lefty academic circles faces precisely zero consequences for spouting his nonsense. By definition he is unemployable in the productive sector.

    C’mon Deity don’t be too harsh on Malcolm. He, can of course be employable. WHERE? The answer is easy. He can of course get one in K’Rd at night time. You know, those tall big blokes wearing wigs standing around K’Rd looking & signaling for a lift from male drivers, driving by. In fact, jobs such as those require no formal education at all. That’s the only place where unproductive people such as Malcolm, Phil Ure, can get jobs at and the pay is really good.

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  77. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (856 comments) says:

    true FF, but while the hourly rate might be attractive, the fringe benefits are a bit light?

    But I have to agree, soggy middle class white permanent students could be a shag of choice for sweaty grunting drunk truckers. We might have found Malcolm a career serving the workers at last!

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  78. the deity formerly known as nigel6888 (856 comments) says:

    Sadly though middle aged pot-head bludgers are a different kettle of fish, so we have to keep working with Phil…

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  79. GPT1 (2,042 comments) says:

    tell i/s to get fucked. only person being political is him.
    Perhaps he might like to put his b/s in context. Drive to centre of his city. Smash car. Randomly pick one or more friends and colleagues, bury them alive. Walk home through any streams and rivers on way. Get home. Block off street, turn off pwer and water, dig hole in yard, choose who to text before phone runs out of juice. Don’t send two out of three texts as networks crashing, share drinking water with neighbours and don’t ring 111 with any emergency because the system is overloaded Do that and then decide key is grandstanding.
    What a prat.

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  80. jingyang (2 comments) says:

    @the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    Show me where in my post I called anyone a hypocrite? I merely made what I thought was an amusing observation. Make of it what you will. However, yes, I do say that those ‘outing’ someone’s psuedonym when using one themselves are hypocritical, something you yourself are clearly concerned about cos you very carefully thought to teach mself and the vast majority of Kiwiblog posters how to suck eggs by pointing out the many reasons people might use a psuedonym.

    I have no idea why you seem to have taken offence at my post, unless the shoe fits?

    “I bow to your superior deductive reaoning” Condecension too? My, you are a funny little man.

    “But can I suggest a thought experiment” “This is why most people here use blog names” So. Let me get this straight, you say that many people here (and, with your little “thought experiment”about China, you very strongly imply myself too) have good reasons for using psuedonyms. This is all well and good, you’ll note that nowhere in my initial post did I disagree with these reasons, and in fact on these points I agree with you. No problem.

    Accordingly, if all these posters have (in their own minds at the very least) good reasons for being anonymous, then why are they attempting to ‘out’ someone’s ‘real name? Sorry, but that IS a double standard, and I call bullshit on them.

    As for “Malcolm of course sitting in lefty academic circles faces precisely zero consequences for spouting his nonsense. By definition he is unemployable in the productive sector” maybe just perhaps this sort of ad homimum attack shows why he might find it a good idea to use a psuedonym? Or are you trying to tell us that he doesn’t need one while you do?

    Maybe you ought to look at how that shoe is fitting you?

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