Offensive Nutters
February 24th, 2011 at 3:49 pm by David FarrarSome morons have put up a site blaming the quake on, of all things, Gay Ski Week. I was tempted to just ignore the nutters, but it has got attention elsewhere so I decided not to ignore it.
I don’t know if the people behind the site are nutters who really believe what they say, or just trolls trying to cause offence. In the end it does not matter that much.
If it is the former, then these guys are to christianity what Al Qaeda is to Islam – an extreme nutty fringe that does not speak for the vast majority.
To be honest the site is so nutty, I think it is more likely to be trolls.
The cowards behind this have used a .net domain so their identities arre hidden. Not a surprise – if they showed their faces in public, they’d need new faces.
February 24th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I am usually one who hops into and attacks religion at any opportunity, but just not in the mood to today as this just hits too close to home. Truth be told I wish this post hadn’t been made – not worth giving those people attention.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Sadly they are not trolls DPF, idiots like Kris K believe that shit.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
A site with a truly horrible message.
But almost entirely redeemed by this pic, which is awesome:
http://www.christchurchquake.net/Assets/photos/bullDykes.jpg
No need to ask who wears the pants in that union.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Linking to them is going to boost their likely ranking in Google, which is what they want to happen.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
I agree: remove the link. Anonymous hatred is simply not worth devoting any attention to, especially at a time like this.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Yes, God is judging the ‘gays’ by destroying every church in Canterbury.
Try again Pharisees.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I would say definitely nutters considering they have an article about ‘swamp lesbians’
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Stupid indeed, and very close to a parody by the looks of it. They seem to be one of those extremely fringe groups who associate natural disasters with human failings, apparently the fact that Pakistan is the largest source of internet searches for Pornographic images was the cause of the devastating floods they recently endured. So they aren’t merely anti-homosexual.
But tell me David, how many people have these guys killed ? Is it 1, 2, 10′s, 100′s, 1000′s, tens of 1,000′s ? I think it’s most likely none. So how are they really “like Al Qaeda”, surely one of whose salient points isn’t simply their adherence to literal Koranic interpretations but their propensity for indulging in murderous attacks on civilians anywhere they can.
Laughter and derision would probably work pretty well to deal with these clowns on the web, but good luck trying that on Al Qaeda.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
These people are low lying scum, that are wasting the oxygen that better people could be using.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
According to The Age in Melbourne, this site is registered in Utah:
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/despicable-website-blames-christchurch-quake-on-gay-community-20110224-1b68y.html
A website that claims Christchurch’s devastating earthquake was an act of God triggered by the tolerance of homosexual behaviour in the city has been denounced as ”despicable and appalling” by New Zealand’s gay and lesbian community.
The website ”Christchurch Quake” – registered on September 20 to an address in Utah in the USA – suggests the destruction was a result of ”lesbians running loose on the South Island as if they own the place” and general ”amoral” behaviour.
Among other inflammatory accusations, the website alleges that the earlier September earthquake, which coincided with the start of Gay Ski Week in Queenstown, was a warning from God to ”End the Evil – or else!”.
Note that it was registered soon after the September quake.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Surely it’s a piss-take?
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
In other, possibly related news it seems that Anonymous (look it up) has targeted the West Borough Baptist Church. Awesome.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
It isn’t by the same people who did the Bob Parker lizard person site?
http://bobparkerengineeredthechchquake.blogspot.com/
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
I think that it is an example of Poe’s law — “Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humour, it is impossible to create a parody of fundamentalism that someone won’t mistake for the real thing”, named after Nathan Poe who formulated it on christianforums.com in 2005. Although it originally referred to creationism, the scope later widened to religious fundamentalism.
Vote:So sayeth Wikipedia.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Whoops – it seems that WBBC probably faked it to get some publicity:
http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=494
“Dear Phred Phelps and WBC Phriends,
Vote:So we’ve been hearing a lot about some letter that we supposedly sent you this morning. Problem is,
we’re a bit groggy and don’t remember sending it. Our best guess is that you heard about us on that
newfangled TV of yours and thought we might be some good money for your little church.
You thought you could play with Anonymous. You observed our rising notoriety and thought you
would exploit our paradigm for your own gain. And then, you thought you could lure some idiots into a
honeypot for more IPs to sue….”
February 24th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
What I’m seeing is atheists spreading the message by publishing the link.
If it’s really that bad, why endorse it by giving it wider coverage?
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Grant Michael McKenna: Re: poe’s law.
I know a guy who wrote a sarcastic letter to a student newspaper some years back, pointing out the ludicrousness of liberal Christianity. A lot of his Christian friends started looking at him funny, because they didn’t realise he was taking the piss.
So it works both ways.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Westboro Baptist Church can kiss my Catholic ass. They were the ones who loudly protested Ronnie James Dio’s funeral. Now I don’t really care what your personal religious beliefs are.. but anyone who fronts Black Sabbath and Dio deserves some respect in my books-that lad could belt out a tune…
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
David, the link below will probably promote more constructive debate. We all know that on the fringes of society there are nut crackers – nothing new about it at all.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/01/070103-mine-quake.html
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
People who talk about disasters as judgment from God piss me off. There is an entire book in the Bible (Job) dedicated to calamities and the reasons behind them. Much of the book is taken up with Job’s friends doing exactly what this site does – accusing him of sin and saying that God is punishing him. At the end of the book, however, God expresses His anger with Job’s friends for not having talked truthfully about Him.
These people have no grounding in scripture or theology and should not be taken seriously as Christians.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
The use of the word “fags” strongly suggests this is either westboro or a piss take.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Good summary Blair, the book of Job certainly makes these judgement mongers uncomfortable in my experience also.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
A few money scamming sites about as well using Red Cross to scam people of their money.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Apparently this deity has nothing more surgical in its arsenal than an earthquake to punish the “wicked.”
Two dead babies pulled out of the rubble last I read.
My suggestion is that churches pool their weekly collection money to buy their deity a sniper rifle.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Dawkins is another fundamentalist who makes the equivalence argument between Christian fundamentalists and al Q. It’s simply not valid.
Twin towers,embassies,car bombings……..
There are many who argue that al Q’s views are actually Muslim mainstream.( Jihad Watch is an excellent site)
The last sentence in DPF’s post suggests violence towards those who hold these admttedly strange opinions,a bit extreme?
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
“Dawkins is another fundamentalist”
You know, I stopped reading right there.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
DPF, you are only picking on them because they are gay, lesbian, christians, nutbar type fuckwits.
Vote:Then again they could be just normal fuckwits that are .net
February 24th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
The premises of these people require a belief that a God over aeons moves tectonic plates to bear pressure on themselves, in a land before it is even inhabited, to result in
“Multiple earthquakes, simultaneously hitting the same area, and closing the airport, when almost everyone is at home and safe, just before dawn, on the opening day of Lesbian & Poof Week”; and not understanding this warning, or that of the methane explosion in a West Coast coal mine, again probably from a fault line pocket inched into play over thousands of years, He suddenly decides, without a specific event in His Mind this time, last Tuesday afternoon, to randomly kill grandparents, babies and visiting Japanese language students, to bring us to believe the message that He, Himself, in the guise of Christ failed, so miserably failed to impart to us a while back.
I have obviously wasted more time in writing this, and you in reading it, than these loonies deserve, but of course THEY ARE OUT THERE, which is a little bit of a worry, possibly to people in Utah, it seems …
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Surely these people are mentally ill?
But, I think you get nutters coming out of the woodwork for all earthquakes. Full moon too.
I just think now is not the time for people to push politics or beliefs.
Just thinking of those poor people who died , I just donated to the red cross, hope others donate too, and ignore the nutters.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
I’ve never called for a DDOS attack on a website, but this one is a good candidate. (Police: I’m venting, not calling for someone to actually commit a crime)
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
David: if you do decide to link, could you please add the HTML code “nofollow” so that your link does not add any SEO value.
I have a strong recommendation: if you look at the domain name and DNS information, the website is hosted by bluehost.com – if you have a copy of skype, you can call their US toll free number without charge. If everyone who reads this blog gets on the phone to them and complains, I’m sure it will get noticed.
Sure, it isn’t going to take them off air forever, but I have no problem giving these bastards some inconvenience. I’m sitting at home doing nothing at the moment, so have plenty of time on my hands to hassle the kinds of low life scum that put this kind of shit on the internet.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Just read a little extract, which puts these people in some perspective –
“In 2004 — a couple of “amateurish” … spies were supposedly busted for trying to get a New Zealand passport. … They were in NZ as contract killers, contracted to get rid of people whom NZ’s lesbian queen saw as threats to her power. The murders almost got exposed, so NZ’s biggest mana wahine-lesbian, and the NZ press, conspired to run a distraction – the passport scam arrests and trial. Yeah the big diplomatic incident was a fake, just cover for NZ’s murderous women politicians. Two guys got arrested, did a few weeks in prison, and then got deported. The rest of the assasination team was left untouched – some skipped NZ, others stayed on – they had more killings to do.
And there were children on the list “big lesbian” wanted killed. The foreign killers opted not to murder the children. Yeah, even contract killers had more principles than NZ’s lesbian leadership.
This is worse than third world banana republic stuff – and it is modern NZ. Why wouldn’t God send an earthquake, or three — or maybe four thousand of them, to shake the place up?”
– http://www.christchurchquake.net/html/onlyInNewZealand.html#hulunUndHuthar
But the SIS should probably investigate further in case these loonies ever consider entering New Zealand – they wouldn’t want to enjoy themselves here as tourists so their only motivation would be thinking God is a little slow in getting His work done.
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
It’s a beat up – and the people who are publicizing it are GAYNZ who never miss an opportunity for a whine.
Ignore it
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
I couldn’t wait for an email response, so went to their live support chat. Here’s the response:
ahodgson: [1:03:33 AM] I’m sorry that you’re having trouble with one of our clients.
Questions of libel, slander, defamation and hate speech are legal matters, about which a court must make a decision. We can remove a website if we receive a court order so stating. Please provide a notarized copy of the injunction or other court order once you have obtained one; we can then verify the document with the court and take action.
I replied they had no idea of the magnitude of what they were dealing with, and got the usual American response:
ahodgson: [1:04:49 AM] Okay.
[1:04:59 AM] Anything else for you?
[1:06:18 AM] Have a good day.
Shall we crash bluehost to teach them a lesson? Yes. Why not….
Vote:February 24th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
Zealots are alive and well and breeding.
check this article out: march of the zealots
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/zealots.htm
Salient Points
The common factors in these campaigns of zealotry are:
Creation and maintenance of a myth
Ignoring all evidence countering the myth
Ad hominem attacks on opponents
Encouraging authoritarian governments to impose taxes and reduce individual freedom
Promotion of limits and constraints that are simply invented without reason
Collusion by the establishment media
Damage to science and its methods
Elimination of things that make life bearable
Making some people very rich while impoverishing the lives of almost everyone else.
They will not be satisfied until they have you shivering in a cave, sipping thin gruel.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Yes as I said before, no publicity is bad publicity.
That Bob Parker site is just weird.
Obsessional.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 12:10 am
DPF, you just happened upon the Destiny Church mirror site. Did you not get the great one alight in the hologram on your Amex? That is the “sign” apparently. And upon its appearance it should be max-ed out in favour of god and Bishop, and all of his subsidiaries.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 1:12 am
# BlairM (1,173) Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
People who talk about disasters as judgment from God piss me off. There is an entire book in the Bible (Job) dedicated to calamities and the reasons behind them. Much of the book is taken up with Job’s friends doing exactly what this site does – accusing him of sin and saying that God is punishing him. At the end of the book, however, God expresses His anger with Job’s friends for not having talked truthfully about Him.
These people have no grounding in scripture or theology and should not be taken seriously as Christians.
Job had horrible things because God arbitrarily wanted to prove a point to Satan, had he been a more sinful man there would have been nothing stopping God from punishing him. There is hardly a shortage of examples where disasters happened as judgment from God (e.g. Sodom, plagues, murdering babies, flooding the world, etc. Not limited to the Old Testament either, for example the family who were struck down by God for being dishonest in their tithing in the Book of Acts).
Those people have a better grounding in scripture and theology than you do and all they show is that Christianity and the Bible is full of destruction.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 1:20 am
# andrei (817) Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
It’s a beat up – and the people who are publicizing it are GAYNZ who never miss an opportunity for a whine.
Ignore it
Don’t forget various Christian organisations such as Family First who also likewise never miss an opportunity for a whine – just from a different perspective to GAYNZ. At the end of the day I don’t know why David chose to bring attention to this website. He should make a post to raise awareness about the fake scam donation sites that are being set up so that people who are less computer-literate won’t make good-intentioned mistakes.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Well David – I dont recall you said the same thing about a maori academic who blamed the last (sept) earthquake on the refusal of locals to speak maori. This sort of stupidity isnt restricted. Apparent intellegent people believe this sort of shit.
Mind you, if I had to speak maori or attend gay ski week – it would be maori……
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 7:18 am
It can’t be M’Baiter, the style of the writing is completely different and there are no references to “Leftists”.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 8:03 am
I don’t believe that site is for real. DEfinite troll bait. It looks to me like something set up by adolescent athiests or something similar.
And its trying too hard. The baby seal clubbing thing is a dead giveaway.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 8:22 am
It’s a search engine optimization play.
1. Register URL, loaded with keywords.
Vote:2. Attract link attention
3. Once ranking/high PageRank is achieved, switch content to advertising AND/OR pass link authority of domain to other commercial domains
February 25th, 2011 at 8:27 am
I don’t know if this is related?
http://gizmodo.com/#!westborobaptistchurch
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 8:47 am
“Don’t forget various Christian organisations such as Family First who also likewise never miss an opportunity for a whine ”
I have read their blog. The only thing I can see relating to Christchurch is an appeal to donate money to the Salvation Army to assist in Christchurch. What are you referring to?
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Chuck Bird (1,426) Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:47 am
“Don’t forget various Christian organisations such as Family First who also likewise never miss an opportunity for a whine ”
I have read their blog. The only thing I can see relating to Christchurch is an appeal to donate money to the Salvation Army to assist in Christchurch. What are you referring to?
Pretty much every press release they make regarding programmes shown on TV, sex education at school, the smacking law, etc. Etc. I’m surprised that you have missed them in the media, they’re probably more vocal than GAYNZ.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
This thread was about people who used the Christchurch disaster to push their cause. Your post implied that Family First was doing this. You post is off topic. It would appear you cannot miss a chance to have a go at a conservative organization that strongly believes that parents should have primacy in regard their children’s upbringing including discipline not the State.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 9:42 am
OK OK, I’ll cut back on the sodomy…
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I think it’s a parody. The writing is too controlled, the grammar is too good and the layout is nice. The hate is pretend.
“How To Attract An Earthquake – How To Kill Over A Million Lambs In A Weekend”
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Chuck Bird (1,428) Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
This thread was about people who used the Christchurch disaster to push their cause. Your post implied that Family First was doing this. You post is off topic. It would appear you cannot miss a chance to have a go at a conservative organization that strongly believes that parents should have primacy in regard their children’s upbringing including discipline not the State.
You will note that I was responding to Andrei’s unnecessary attack on GAYNZ when this post was clearly about people who had set up a horrible website regarding the earthquake. It appears Christians cannot miss a chance to have a go at homosexual organisations and are more offended by them than websites attacking earthquake victims. I for one have been against this thread all along existing at all.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am
As a christian i am very sad to see such a website appearing.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
its DDOS time…
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am
For a period this morning it was actually redirecting to http://christchurchquake-net.vc-web.com/, and appears to be associated with Vision College in Hamilton – either a student or faculty member. More likely a student, given the CV which is accessible from the site.
That said, why shouldn’t stupid people be able to express their stupid opinions? Lord knows there are plenty around here. Why DDOS them or get bluehost.com to shut them down just because you think they’re teh lame?
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
It’s not just them. I’ve already been targeted by messages from other fundies claiming this a message from God to repent, it’s the end of times, blah blah blah
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 11:41 am
There’s also stories going around about another major earthquake predicted for next month. This sort of scare mongering is more irresponsible than the moron website. Many people are shit scare of earthquakes at the moment, doom merchants make that worse.
Someone said to me this morning that they didn’t want to be in NZ in March because of the rumour and their fear of another big quake. They were semi-serious.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
It was probably put up by the likes of Thedavincimode or whoever, those homosexual zealots with a raging intolerance of anyone who does not see things from their perspective, and designed to provoke outrage against Christians. Going by many of the comments on this thread, its a strategy that has worked very well.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
When it comes to offensive nutters, I’d like to thank the New Zealand Herald for reminding me why I let my subscription to that rag lapse a long time ago.
The whole top half of the front page was filled with a photo of five month old Baxtor Gowland. Was there any legitimate reason for that epic failure of taste, except to try and sell more newspapers? (To be fair, the brief report on Gowland’s death and its placement in the body of the paper among similar stories was sensitive and tasteful – but that makes the front page even worse.)
I wouldn’t waste my piss on the trash who let that cheap, tacky and exploitative front page go to press.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I am for free speech so calling for that site to be taken down infuriates me. I hate what they say but being offended is part of the deal when it comes to free speech. HTFU.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
“I am for free speech so calling for that site to be taken down infuriates me. I hate what they say but being offended is part of the deal when it comes to free speech. HTFU.”
If we had a another Clark government we would have hate speech laws and people would be jailed for such comments as they are now in the UK.
Vote:February 25th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
A post about offensive nutters blaming it on “teh gays” and up pops Redbaiter… blaming it on teh gays. Prescient.
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