Trevor joins the truthers and birthers

September 23rd, 2011 at 12:52 pm by David Farrar

The United States has mad conspiracy theorists on the right and the left. Those on the left are the truthers who are convinced Bush and Cheney blew up the Twin Towers and blamed it on poor old Osama. Those on the right are or were the birthers who were convinced that Obama was born in Kenya, and that his grand mother placed a fake birth notice in Hawaii in August 1961 just in case one day he decided to stand for President.

Back home we don’t have truthers or birthers, but instead the Labour Party Campaign Manager . He blogs:

Interesting disclosure from David Farrar yesterday. He, along with , and (waste of members money) PSA are bankrolling , one of the few remaining supporters of the Alliance, to provide the political commentary which mainly attacks Labour and the Greens from the looney left. The guy makes Margaret Mutu look like a well balanced academic.

As we all know the majority of Farrar’s income comes from the taxpayer via a “research” arrangement.

I wonder if signed the deal off or whether it was just a nod and a wink.

So Bill English secretly instructed me to secretly fund Bryce Edwards, so Bryce would attack Labour. With such insight, Trevor could apply to join either the birthers or the truthers.

First it is interesting to note his portrayal of Dr Edwards as more unbalanced than Margaret Mutu (who called for a ban on white immigration). This may come as a surprise to his many colleagues who have been interviewed by Dr Edwards for the OU Vote Chat series. His attack on Dr Edwards may remind readers of his attacks on Erin Leigh and others, and are perhaps a salient reminder of what awaits people if Labour gets back into Government.

I do wonder what Trevor’s colleague, tertiary education spokesperson Grant Robertson, thinks of Trevor’s attacking of an academic for his political views.

I should point out at this stage that Dr Edwards is what one would call left-wing. Like John Pagani, he used to work for the Alliance in Parliament around 10 years ago. It is of course very unusual for an academic to be left-wing. Almost unheard of.

Now let us get to Trevor’s discovery of this big secret, the sponsorship of NZ Politics Daily. It was a closely guarded secret until I revealed it in Stuff yesterday. Oh except for the fact that every single issues for the last few months has said:

New Zealand Politics Daily is produced independently by Bryce Edwards, Department of Politics, University of Otago, with the help of a research assistant who is paid for by the sponsorship of:
Curia Market Research – the place to go if you want to know what New Zealanders are thinking
Exceltium Ltd – New Zealand’s most successful corporate and public affairs consultancy
PSA – the public sector union advocating for strong public services and decent work.

On top of this daily disclosure by Dr Edwards, I blogged on the sponsorship back in June. The $100/week Curia pays doesn’t go to Bryce but to a research assistant who compiles the scores of stories included in the e-mail edition. I find the compilation incredibly useful as it lists every political story and major blog post for the day, and often discover stories I would have missed through it.

There is absolutely no input or influence over what Bryce writes as an intro summary to the daily bulletin. I would say I disagree with Bryce’s take on things probably twice as often as I agree with one! To give an example of some of Bryce’s recent summaries which in Trevor’s fantasy world Bill English is paying for:

  • This could be the year of the Greens – finally they might crack the 10% mark that has eluded them in every general election so far. And with the popular demise of Labour and the ideological confusion of Mana, the Green Party might end up being the real success story for the leftish side of the political spectrum.
  • With patience to delve through this analysis, anyone should be able see that the Police modus operandi and the Government’s attempts to help the Police out are rather outrageous.
  • The politics-free zone of the Rugby World Cup was supposed to deprive the Opposition parties of any significant media publicity in the main period leading up to the general election – but it might not quite work out as National intended. … Of course, the RWC opening night debacle has tarnished National’s competency reputation … Labour and the Greens are not just basking in National’s woes, however, but seem to be proactively attempting to get their messages out to the public while National has its mind on other things. During the last day or so, Labour and the Greens have been announcing all sorts of policies and campaigns. Labour’s policy on the Christchurch rebuild, in particular, might gain it some real kudos
  • There is no doubt that the National Government deserves the pressure that is currently being applied over the shambles of the Rugby World Cup opening night. …But the fiasco has certainly taken the shine off the National Government’s general appearance of competency. Murray McCully’s days as a minister suddenly seemed numbered.
  • National needs to be reminded that most people believe that we have governments and collective responsibility so people can feel protected from these bolts from the blue. 
  • Another chapter in the saga of malicious bungling by the Police has come to a ridiculous end with charges being dropped against 11 of the accused in the Urewera ‘terror’ case
  • Another chapter in the saga of malicious bungling by the Police has come to a ridiculous end with charges being dropped against 11 of the accused in the Urewera ‘terror’ case
  • The National Party list for the 2011 general election is disappointing and boring.
  • John Key hasn’t let the fact that he has not actually read Nicky Hager’s book stop him from voicing the same arrogant dismissiveness we saw in evidence in his initial handling of the Israeli spy allegations and the work of journalist Jon Stephenson on Afghanistan.
  • Apparently there will be a ‘welcoming committee’ there to greet the National Party ministers and thank them for all that they’ve done to start to rebuild the city. Unfortunately for National, this sarcastic ‘thank you’ will be in the form of a protest against the way that the city is being rebuilt

I don’t mind Trevor’s mad conspiracy theories involving me and Bill English. They are at least amusing, even if often copied from Whale Oil.

But I do think he owes Dr Edwards an apology for impuging his integrity.

Matthew Hooton is less kind to Trevor in his blog post, and Whale is his normal gentle self. Also Keeping Stock chips in.

Finally a video reminder of Trevor  at his finest, courtesy of Whale.

UPDATE: I’m relaxed about Trevor’s defamatory comments and have better things to do than talk to lawyers, But I understand others who were named are not so forgiving and have consulted their lawyers. No parliamentary privilege for Red Alert. Could be an expensive exercise for them as not only is Trevor liable but so is the Labour Parliamentary Party as the blog publisher.

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34 Responses to “Trevor joins the truthers and birthers”

  1. Inventory2 (10,166 comments) says:

    Mallard seems to have completely lost the plot this time. Maybe he’s been shown the latest One News and 3News poll results…

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  2. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    This kind of gutter level accusation and conspiracy theory nuttery really needs serious mainstream exposure. Trevor Mallard is, like most of his party, unfit for government. He is a lying, abusive bully.

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  3. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Mallard, a despicable and odious character, embodies the worst of human traits.

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  4. 2boyz (254 comments) says:

    The thing that really grates is we (the tax payers of NZ) are paying this halfwit.

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  5. Johnboy (15,537 comments) says:

    On yer bike Trev.

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  6. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    It makes you wonder what a Labour led government would be like with the continuous campaign chaos. It’s like an asylum with no one in charge.

    Greens surely have discarded any faint hope of a coalition and will be aiming at building themselves as much as they can at Labour’s expense. Their best bet is to get whatever policy crumbs they can off National for another term and somehow at the same time target replacing Labour as the main opposition.

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  7. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Not quite in the truther or birther category. What’s the ‘research’ arrangement Trev was on about?

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  8. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    He’s trying to change focus now and help Ted to select the AB’s team. I wonder if he’s looking for a chnage of occupation after the world cup.

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  9. cabbage (455 comments) says:

    Oh, thats GOLD. Only in Trevors world Would Bill English, David Farrar, Bryce edwards and the PSA work together to discredit the loony left.

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  10. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    Well, if we can get an Australian lawn bowler to select the cricket side, I don’t see why Trev can’t have a crack at picking the All Blacks.

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  11. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    > It is of course very unusual for an academic to be left-wing. Almost unheard of.

    Well, in your world it might be unheard of but when I went to uni it wasn’t unusual at all. Of course, the academics there didn’t go to the media and announce that they were left-wing. But I’m sure you’ll find that academics do, shock horror, vote Labour and Green.

    [DPF: I was being sarcastic. Most academics are left wing]

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  12. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    [DPF: I was being sarcastic. Most academics are left wing]

    You mean, you disagree with most academics. A subtle difference. :)

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  13. East Wellington Superhero (1,151 comments) says:

    One of the interesting points David Farrar makes is, is this what we can expect from a Labour government – more personal attacks of people (direct or subtle) by way of the media?

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  14. ross (1,454 comments) says:

    EWS,

    Yes it’s reassuring to know that nobody from the National Party would ever resort to a personal attack.

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  15. Bed Rater (239 comments) says:

    10 dollars says Trevor Mallard makes an announcement about his health shortly after the election.

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  16. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    “Only in Trevors world Would Bill English, David Farrar, Bryce edwards and the PSA work together”

    You forgot Matthew Hooten, but yes, its the sheer looneyness and paranoia of the claim that is disturbing. The idea that those individuals and groups would conspire together to descredit Labour is so absurd as to be insane. You have to wonder of he was making a joke, but it seems he is serious. Thats alarming to say the least.

    Is he on some kind of medication? And if so, has he taken it?

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  17. KiwiGreg (3,211 comments) says:

    “the Green Party might end up being the real success story for the leftish side of the political spectrum”

    That’s an indication of how left wing Edwards is – he regards the Greens as merely “leftish”.

    David you should be ashamed of being associated with anything involving the PSA, let alone Edwards.

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  18. Pete George (23,270 comments) says:

    There’s a bit of money going on an earlier change – iPredict for “Top 10 of 2011 Labour List to be changed from that announced on 10 April 2011″ has risen 64.44% today.

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  19. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    That’s an indication of how left wing Edwards is – he regards the Greens as merely “leftish”.

    I haven’t read his blog in ages, but if I recall correctly he was always keeping an eye on how the Greens were moving further and further from their very-much-leftist base towards the centre. Same with ACT and being the party of ‘no income tax’ (or whatever it was).

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  20. ben (2,414 comments) says:

    ross must ride the short bus. How could you miss the sarcasm?? Duh.

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  21. adaman (36 comments) says:

    I have Bryce as a lecturer and he is absolutely brilliant. Discloses his position at start of semester and then takes a balanced view when teaching so if there is any crtique, students know where he is coming from. When it comes to his blog and politics daily, he is well within his own right to criticise whom he wants and take a view point, wherever it may sit on the political spectrum. It is an academics job to be critical, may it be of opposition or their own.

    Trevor (Duck) Mallard needs to take his beak out of his arse before speaking, that way he’ll speak less shit.

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  22. thedavincimode (6,589 comments) says:

    David

    This is a very disturbing post. It infers that you actually give a fuck about what an out and out arsehole like Mallard actually thinks.

    I’m sure you can do better than this. Ignoring Mallard, as most of the rest of the country does, is a good place to start.

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  23. xy (167 comments) says:

    “Back home we don’t have truthers or birthers” – what? http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/04/born_in_the_usa.html was only a few months ago.

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  24. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    “Trevor (Duck) Mallard needs to take his beak out of his arse before speaking, that way he’ll speak less shit.”

    Don’t hold your breath.

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  25. Inventory2 (10,166 comments) says:

    @ thedavincimode – I disagree completely. Trevor Mallard has made a completely unsubstantiated allegation that the Minister of Finance is using public funds, via a blogger and business owner to enable a left-leaning academic to publish political opinions. Stop the presses of tomorrow’s major dailies; cue “breaking news” alerts on the TV networks at 6pm. These allegations must be treated with the utmost seriousness.

    OTOH, if Trevor Mallard cannot substantiate the serious allegations that he has made against a Minsiter of the Crown, then he needs to be held publicly accountable.

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  26. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    xy
    Speaking of the truthers and birthers, I got handed a truther DVD at Wellington railway station a few weeks ago. So they’re still out there (in more than one sense).

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  27. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    A few years back I had bryce as a lecturer for a couple of papers, and he sure wears his political views on his sleves, but he also always respects other point of views, (something that cannot always be said about some of his collegues in the politics department), and it was always good to talk politics with him, and you knew he still respected your right wing opinion, as long as you could back it up and defend it. So for trevor to suggest that somehow bryce is involved in a conspiriacy to discredit the labour party, is so sad as to no longer be funny. Trevor I think you do enough to dicredit the labour party without help from bryce, although I have to amit Phill chips in once and awhile to discredit labour too!

    Oh and margret mutu is clearly unbalanced, for Trevor to think otherwise, shows to me how he is clearly an unbalanced individual himself, and might want to take some gardening leave to rest and recuperate.

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  28. burt (7,988 comments) says:

    Is this like some sad ‘don’t drink and blog’ campaign?

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  29. burt (7,988 comments) says:

    Chris Trotter’s comment is awesome;

    Chris Trotter says:
    September 23, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    I would like Trevor to confirm that he currently plays a key role in devising Labour’s election strategy.

    After reading this post, I would like to ask the readers of Red Alert – why?

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  30. burt (7,988 comments) says:

    Trotter goes on;

    I suspect Farrar and Hooton back Bryce for the same reason the PSA does: to have their organisation’s name associated with an extremely useful political service subscribed to by most of New Zealand’s leading opinion-shapers.

    All of whom will soon be made aware, I’m sure, of the Labour Party’s Campaign Manager’s extraordinary outburst.

    An intelligent and well-informed campaign manager would, of course, have anticipated this highly undesirable outcome – and kept his fingers well away from the keyboard.

    The infighting in Labour is so much more exciting than the quiet shuffles that happen in National.

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  31. kiwigunner (222 comments) says:

    (As we all know the majority of Farrar’s income comes from the taxpayer via a “research” arrangement).

    Is this true? A great irony if so. I’d rather fund hip hop tours, or single pumpkin community gardens with my taxes.

    Where do I get copies of the research we are all paying for?

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  32. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    kiwigunner
    I’m sure someone here will clear that point up so we can go back to flogging Trev.

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  33. Elaycee (4,331 comments) says:

    Some kind, loving person needs to take Trevor behind the bike shed and explain to him in words of single syllables, the stupidity of his remarks and the embarrassment he has become to Labour.

    His actions are those of a desperate man who has never accepted the fact that the electorate dumped his party three years ago and (according to all polls) hasn’t had a change of heart since.

    Its time for him to be put out to pasture.

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  34. kiwigunner (222 comments) says:

    (As we all know the majority of Farrar’s income comes from the taxpayer via a “research” arrangement).

    Well? Smaller government – but I don’t mean me syndrome?

    How much do you get David? How often? What do taxpayers get for it?

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