General Debate 9 April 2012

April 9th, 2012 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. nasska (10,674 comments) says:

    First they came for the light bulbs
    and I did not speak out
    because I liked to sit in the dark.

    Then they came for the plastic bags
    and I did not speak out
    because I already owned a cloth bag.

    Then they came for the oil
    and I did not speak out
    because I did not drive a car.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left
    to save me from the Enviro Nazis.

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  2. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    http://whoar.co.nz/2012/still-tokin-after-all-these-years/

    “…In a highly personal piece -

    - a dad in his mid-50s asks why he shouldn’t carry on enjoying the occasional spliff..”

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  3. Keeping Stock (10,100 comments) says:

    The library is open early this morning Phil; and you were there late last night too; on Easter Sunday. I hope they’re not breaking any laws staying open so that you can use the interb=net that you don’t have at home

    ..eh..?

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  4. Scott Chris (5,880 comments) says:

    We all know someone like this:

    A high-flying Australian executive has lost his job after he called New Zealanders “retarded” and said women had “no place in business or politics”.

    “You only take them to places like Gallipoli and the world cup of cricket so you don’t feel bad. Just like your retarded cousin goes to the movies,” he wrote.

    “Women have no place in business or politics. They shouldn’t even be allowed to vote. And it’s all New Zealand’s fault, since 1893. Yea [sic] let’s let the women cook and vote. Great idea.”

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  5. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    If this momentum gets going then Obama is toast. This is the 2nd Republican to come out and express doubt about Obama’s birth certificate.

    Obama Birth Certificate: Missouri Congresswoman Vicky Hartzler Expresses Doubt

    Once there’s a Congressional investigation into this matter, then Obama is history. They will put this fraudster Obama in Guantanamo Bay detention camp when he is found guilty of fraud. I’m sure that the terrorist Abu Nidal in Quantuamo is looking forward to sharing a cell with Obama.

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  6. Chuck Bird (4,682 comments) says:

    I would have thought we would have learned from the past experience of allowing migrants in without screening. It is not practical or reasonable to test tourists. However, it is mad not to test students who may be here for a couple of years for HIV. You would expect this under a Labour government but not a National one.

    Easing of visa health tests could let infected in – experts

    By Lincoln Tan
    5:30 AM Monday Apr 9, 2012

    Relaxing health screening requirements for international students could lead to people infected with HIV and hepatitis being granted visas to study here, medical experts say.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797527

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  7. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Yep, looks like this clinches the birther debate:

    “You know, I have a lot of doubts about all that. But I don’t know, I haven’t seen it,” Hartzler said. “I’m just at the same place you are on that. You read this, you read that. But I don’t understand why he didn’t show that right away. I mean, if someone asked for my birth certificate, I’d get my baby book and hand it out and say ‘Here it is,’ so I don’t know.”

    How much more decisive could you get than that? Vicky Hartzler and Falafulu Fisi have nailed Obama. How can he prove he was born after this?

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  8. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    FF – even if Obama was born in Hawaii, at best that makes him a US citizen. To be a Natural Born Citizen, ie eligible for presidency, he must have been born in the USA, to parents who were both US citizens. Barry’s father was Kenyan. LJ posted a good read on this here.

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  9. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Left-winger PG masquerading as a right-winger, the electronic birth certificate form that Obama put out is the judge and jury. It makes you an idiot to dismiss it out of hand. Here you are as a warmist who dismisses the opinions of AGW skeptics, but blindly & willingly accepts Obama’s electronic form of his birth certificate as somehow authenticated?

    The white house hasn’t come out to clarify the muli-layering of the birth certificate electronic form? They just kept quite & hope that it will go away. The second point is, if they say that the original BC long form was scanned using software X, Y, Z, blah, blah, blah, which explains the multi-layering, then they will be caught as a liar, because graphics experts in the US who are using the same software in their work will try to replicate it and see if the White-house claim can stand-up to scrutiny. In fact this has been done. Just watch many youtube videos of how some experts have replicated a manufactured electronic form of a birth certificate. Its easy done. The white house won’t name their software because to do so, they’re digging the hole much deeper. It’s better to be quiet about it.

    Obama will be exposed as a fraudster because Republican-controlled Missouri House of Representatives, passed a bill requiring presidential candidates to present a birth certificate to the Missouri secretary of state to qualify for the ballot. Watch this closely because Obama is going to present a copy claimed to be original (except that it is brand new paper from last year).

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  10. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    Ah, yes , the birther nonsense continues.

    *yawn*

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  11. Yvette (2,691 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi, I follow your link and, below comments on the President’s birth, I see Donald Trump has not provided half the documentation that Obama has.
    This is obviously something the US needs to sort out if they don’t want any bloody old foreigner becoming President.
    Like Osama bin Laden
    Oh ? – he’s dead, huh?
    Have you seen a Death Certificate?

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  12. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    A list of the most self absorbed pathologically narcissistic important people in New zealand.

    NZ’s Twitter top 50

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797520

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  13. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Left-winger PG masquerading as a right-winger,
    dismiss it out of hand
    Here you are as a warmist who dismisses the opinions of AGW skeptics
    blindly & willingly accepts Obama’s electronic form of his birth certificate as somehow authenticated?

    You’re wrong on all those, but otherwise your first paragraph isn’t too bad.

    FF, can you explain how Obama’s birth was announced in Hawaii newspapers?

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  14. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    krazykiwi, I don’t care if he’s born in Hawii or Kenya. I support Ron Paul’s opinion on this when asked by CNN about Obama’s birth certificate. Ron Paul answered: His mother is American, therefore it makes him (Obama) automatically a US citizen. Ron Paul is quite correct there. I’m arguing whether he’s a citizen or not. He is a citizen because of his mother. What I’m arguing here is that he’s committing a fraud in the highest level. That’s my argument here. We should not be arguing about his citizenship. Obama is a US citizen (because of his mother irrelevant of where he was born), no doubt, but committing a fraud is competely different matter.

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  15. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    Oh no, PG, please don’t.
    There is no reasoning with them. Logic and reason has long been abandoned by them, they live on a totally different planet.

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  16. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “A high-flying Australian executive has lost his job after he called New Zealanders “retarded” and said women had “no place in business or politics”.”

    That’s what happens in these stinking Marxist gulags when one speaks outside the “approved” spectrum of speech.

    ..and the gullible Farrar and his hard left friends continue their campaign to attack internet anonymity.

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  17. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Great, we’re already away with the birthers again…

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  18. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “FF, can you explain how Obama’s birth was announced in Hawaii newspapers?”

    FFS- the only people who think this question is the big unanswerable are completely uninformed morons. There are at least three good explanations for the appearance of the ads.

    Their appearance proves nothing.

    I’d explain, except I long ago recognized the futility of arguing with retarded NZers and especially the uninformed knuckle dragging Marxist losers who dominate at Kiwiblog today.

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  19. Stamper (32 comments) says:

    Ranui Rail death – I do not understand Auckland rail’s comments:

    [The tragedy prompted anger from commuters who have long protested about a wide gap between the platform and trains at the station.]
    Auckland Transport spokeswoman Sharon Hunter admitted the platform was built for freight trains and did not suit the needs of passengers getting on and off.
    “It’s what we’ve had to put up with. We’ve bought trains that don’t match the platform width, we have an inconsistency in that respect,” she said.
    The first three trains that would fit the platforms were not due to arrive until the end of next year and the roll out would not be complete until 2016.

    Those comments just do not make sense; one modifies the odd man out [the station] so that it is like all other stations, and therefore compatible for the rolling stock.

    If the new rolling stock due in 2016 fits the Ranui Station, they will by definition be different from all current rolling stock and wrong for all the other stations.
    Duhhhhh – this seems dumb, and I suspect so are the other clowns running the passenger train service. eg. the “short station” built at Onehunga which needed more millions spent to get it long enough for the trains coming to it. Unbelievable incompetence; and no one is censured, we just get it added to our rates.

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  20. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    There are at least three good explanations for the appearance of the ads.

    1. The “in case the baby becomes president” conspiracy.
    2. The Nigerian candidate conspiracy.
    3. The unauthenticated newspaper records conspiracy.

    I thought there was more than three?

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  21. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    One of the reasons you’re always such a waste of time Pete is your compulsion to frame false arguments for your opponents and then demand that they defend them.

    A childish gimmick, but apparently one you can never resist.

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  22. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Pete George, there are lots of young beautiful American ladies who go to Tonga every year to teach (at primary & secondary school level) as part of the peace corps volunteer program. They taught there for a duration of 2 years mostly. Some got pregnant to local villagers during their time over there. Some ended up getting married with the fathers of their babies and returned to the US with them (husbands) but some just returned to the US without husbands (or as partners), but with their babies alone. Their babies are automatically US citizens even though they were born in Tonga. As I said above, the legitimacy of Obama’s US citizenship is not my argument here. It is the fraud that he (and his cohorts) had committed last year when he released an electronic form of his birth certificate, which it looked like its been doctored digitally.

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  23. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Falafulu
    You have been sucked in by another birther scam, that’s all, and find it believable because you don’t like Obama. He was born in Honolulu and is qualified to be elected President, was elected and probably will be re-elected. You may as well get used to it, because it’s not changing.

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  24. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Falafulu Fisi, if Obama produced video evidence of his birth in Hawaii, if there was a concrete monument of his birth, if Neil Armstrong’s first words on the moon were “this step is dedicated to Obama who was born in Hawaii”, the Redbirthers of this world would still claim Obama had been doctored digitally in the maternity suite.

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  25. SGA (811 comments) says:

    @kk – “FF – even if Obama was born in Hawaii, at best that makes him a US citizen. To be a Natural Born Citizen, ie eligible for presidency, he must have been born in the USA, to parents who were both US citizens.”

    I’ve explained this to you before kk, the exact parameters of “Natural Born Citizen” have never been legally defined.

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  26. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    maybe fisi just needs a windmill to tilt at..?

    ..some do..

    ..redbaiter has his international communist conspiracy to keep him warm at nights..

    ..who are we to judge..?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  27. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Time to dump dual nationality except with countries that are HM’s Realms for Aus and NZ ?
    One does wonder if the foaming at the mouth right wingers are loyal to NZ and only NZ.
    An Aus MP ? which country does his loyalty lie with ?

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=227332

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  28. Leaping Jimmy (15,947 comments) says:

    Why does anyone approve of Obama? That’s the real question.

    phil suggests: just look at the alternate. Sorry, not a reason.

    Obama is a shocking POTUS. He is. Really bad. Awful.

    Why are you guys defending him, in any way? Are you blind?

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  29. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Ha grumpy, remember the Duynhoven case, when the MP acquired Dutch citizenship without realising it would make him ineligible to continue as an MP?

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  30. SalParadise (54 comments) says:

    I can’t decide which is sadder. The idea the Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud or the NZ Twitter top 50, one of whom appears to be a weather analyst.

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  31. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    The tissue of lies that are Obama’s story are starting to come apart…

    As investigators delve further into the background of Barack Obama, a disturbing picture is emerging of a man who is not who he claims to be. The information the public has been told concerning Obama is turning out to be false–fabrications and inventions of a man and an unseen force behind him that had clear ulterior motives for seeking the highest office in the land.

    According to a special report issued by ‘the Blogging Professor,’ the Chicago Law School faculty hated Obama. The report states that Obama was unqualified, that he was never a ‘constitutional professor and scholar,’ and that he never served as editor of the Harvard Law Review while a student at the school.

    The real truth is that Barack Obama was merely an ‘instructor’ at Chicago Law School, not a professor. Commonly, instructors are non-tenure-track teachers hired by colleges and universities to teach certain courses for a salary that is well below that of Associate Professors or full Professors.

    In fact, it can be safely concluded that the claims of Barack Obama concerning his educational credentials and work history in higher education are a complete sham. The President of the United States is a complete fraud.


    According to Doug Ross:

    I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about “Barry.” Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

    The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).

    BREAKING DEVELOPMENT–just as these disturbing facts come to light about Barack Obama, the White House is busy making deals with numerous ‘journalists,’ promising unprecedented access to the President in exchange for refraining from reporting certain information ‘they may discover.’

    MORE – https://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/investigation-reveals-numerous-bogus-claims-on-obama-resume

    Barrack Obama is turning out to be a creation – a true Manchurian Candidate.

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  32. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    LJ
    Obama brings out a certain amount of visceral hatred, and a certain share of that finds it impossible that he should be President. Some go further to believe that there is no way he could be a legitimate president, and a tiny fringe persuade themselves (but nobody else) that this is so.
    He is no better and no worse than most US presidents. Only time will allow a balanced account of his presidency and what he has contributed, negatively or positively. Calling him ‘awful’ is meaningless unless one is able to demonstrate what effect a Clinton or a McCain would have had.

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  33. Leaping Jimmy (15,947 comments) says:

    Taxpayer money spent on family reunions: how come?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6711592/Thousands-spent-on-whanau-gatherings

    He is no better and no worse than most US presidents.

    If you think that mm I don’t think you’ve been paying close attention. So far he’s fulfilled none of his promises to the voters and simply continued Bush 43′s agenda in terms of the financial destruction his bailouts have wrought and the continuation of the foreign occupations. None of this is within the democratic mindset yet for some reason, democrats aren’t up in arms. Is this because as bad as he is, he’s better than any republican? If so, isn’t that a sellout of principle?

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  34. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    ps, according to the Western Center for Journalism site, Russia’s Putin knows Obama’s secrets and is blackmailing Obama, which is why Obama makes so many concessions to Russia. Not saying I subscribe to the theory, but it is a theory.

    While the American media provide cover for the Constitutionally ineligible Barack Hussein Obama, Vladimir Putin and the nation of Russia are reaping a treasure trove of defense secrets and missile technology by threatening to reveal the true history of the Manchurian Candidate.
    Obama has spent millions to prevent his personal story from being revealed to the American public. Records have been destroyed, information has been hidden, false claims have been advanced, potential whistle-blowers have been threatened and official documents have been forged. Enabled by a complicit media and the craven cowardice of political opponents, the most egregious felonies in the nation’s history have served to make the American people easy prey for the schemes of a dedicated Communist and committed enemy of our Constitutional Republic.
    And those schemes have included the betrayal both of the United States and her allies.

    * In 2009 Obama scrapped the long awaited missile defense system for Poland and the Czech Republic because Russia objected.
    * He has refused to keep secret the technical data on the U.S Standard Missile-3, as called for in the 2012 defense authorization bill.
    * Obama will not pledge to keep American missile technology from China, North Korea and Iran, as it would “…interfere with [his] constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs…”
    * Obama will provide Russia information on every Trident missile supplied to Great Britain as part of an arms control deal signed with Russian President Medvedev.
    * Leaked cables show that the US will now provide Russia with ALL serial numbers of Trident missiles transferred to Britain.
    * Obama proposes the United States CUT its nuclear arsenal by 80%, yet demands no reciprocity on the part of Russia or any of America’s enemies.
    * Joe Miller, 2010 US Senate candidate from Alaska, reports that, under the guise of drawing a boundary, 7 Alaska-area islands and oil rich sea beds containing perhaps billions of barrels were given to Russia in an unannounced, secret deal by Obama’s State Department.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/forgerygate-blackmailed-by-putin-obama-betrays-united-states-and-her-allies/

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  35. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    ps, the American Credit Rating has been downgraded again by Egan Jones, but the American media has been told to make it a non-story so as not to “shock people”

    Credit rating agency Egan Jones (EJR) downgraded the United States Thursday on concern over the sustainability of public debt.

    A shattering report from RIA, Novosti’s Washington D.C.bureau, appears to prove that the mainstream press in America has become nothing more than a propaganda arm of the Obama regime when during a White House news briefing this past week they were effectively ordered not to report on this past weeks credit rating cut of US government debt.

    The Russian International News Agency (RIA Novosti) is a Russian state-owned news agency based in the capital Moscow whose clients include the presidential administration, Russian government, Federation Council, State Duma, leading ministries and government departments, administrations of Russian regions, representatives of Russian and foreign business communities, diplomatic missions, and public organizations.

    The White House news briefing referred to in this report occurred this past Thursday (5 April) when Obama regime officials were queried about the latest shock downgrade of the United States credit rating stating that to the American people this critical event should be kept in the category of a “non-story” so as not to confuse and/or shock them.

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  36. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    He is no better and no worse than most US presidents.

    mikenmild, of course he is worse. Do you have your eyes closed?

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  37. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    ‘not saying I subscribe to the theory’
    Really? It is no crazier than the rest of the nonsense to which you subscribe.

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  38. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    if that 50 tweets thing was a best-of..?

    ..good grief..!

    ..all the wit/insight/humour..

    ..of a tooth-extraction..

    ..i have a moribund twitter account..(with about three entries..untouched since forever..)

    ..and the idea of following the inanities of others’ lives makes me want to drive hot needles into something..

    ..i have more than enough inanities of my own to endure/be getting on with..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  39. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Leaping Jimmy support the Kenyan/Muslim fuck yes, any darkie who upsets that many septics on a regular basis is great in my eyes.

    Trouble is those wimpy cracker mother fuckers don’t have the balls to toss him out of the White house, I’m sure the Secret Service would not shoot that many white septic mother fuckers.

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  40. Dean Papa (743 comments) says:

    but in these modern times it shouldn’t really matter where someone is born?

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  41. TimG_Oz (917 comments) says:

    Holy batnuts, GrumpyOldHori, when did you start reading the Jerusalem Post religiously? Especially with your views, its like you’re doing it just to make yourself even grumpier!

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  42. Leaping Jimmy (15,947 comments) says:

    grumpy I thought you were more astute than to support one who stands so clearly against our own best interests. Some of the less astute here still don’t quite get it and still think along partisan political dimensions whereby left or right is the only determinant but I thought you had long ago transcended such narrow and foolish restrictions.

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  43. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (i’ll try a tweet..)

    heh..!..small dog and (formerly) stray/wild kitten both love the porridge i make..

    ..and are both fanging into their plates..side by side..

    ..it’s kinda cute..

    (is that what they do….?..)

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  44. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    Jimmy, you only need to go to bigjournalism.com a couple of days and see the stuff the Left is always trying to pull to see a clear trend. There is clearly a Left/Right ideology. The editing of the Trayvon Martin tapes by NBC to introduce a racist slant shows this (The NBC producer has since been fired).

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  45. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    … back from leading the SEAL raid on the Somali pirates (in his mind) …

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  46. Don the Kiwi (1,593 comments) says:

    Sean Hannity on Fox News is the boy – he’s exposing Obama big time.

    Grumpy.
    Herman Cain is a black man, and would have been 10 times the president Barry Obumma is.
    However, he’s pulled out of the Republican nomination race – wasn’t cutting it. Very successful man though, and I would suggest that it was his ability – not his colour – that gained him his position.

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  47. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (this one is for excitable-jim..seeing as he asked..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/2012/top-50-things-accomplished-by-president-barack-obama/

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  48. Don the Kiwi (1,593 comments) says:

    BTW. Grumpy.

    Read or watched anything of Thomas Sowell lately?

    There’s a great Black American who could teach many a politician and many a person a lot.

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  49. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (this is for don the kiwi..it’s the whoar cain-cache..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/?s=herman+cain+

    oh the laughs..!..the memories..!

    ..he was comedy-gold..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  50. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Don the Kiwi-

    Note how Hermann Cain received 100 times the scrutiny that Barry Soetero aka Barack Obama has?

    Because Hermann never brought into the Marxist vision, he was killed off by a hostile media, who are the front line fighters for the left.

    We must wake up. The left have us in a pincer grip, and as they continue to lose the argument, you will see the oppression increase, and the guns come out.

    There’s not one leftist commenting on this blog who has not demonstrated that he is sufficiently amoral and psychotic enough to become a mass murderer.

    That is where this is all heading.

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  51. joana (1,983 comments) says:

    Fletch,
    What about Obama’s trip to Pakistan on another passport? What about his muslim backers?

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  52. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Phil U & Pete George, you need to watch it again. Watch the bloody video.

    Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator

    If the birth certificate was scanned in as claimed by the white-house, then it should have been a single layer not multilayer. How hard for you to understand that fact? Are you guys somehow expert software developers or something? You evade debating the software issue that has been raised by many on the internet but fall back to your default position of, oh, it must be conspiracy. His multi-layered electronic birth certificate is downloadable from the White-househere.

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  53. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    There’s not one leftist commenting on this blog who has not demonstrated that he is sufficiently amoral and psychotic enough to become a mass murderer.

    Wait, if all leftist become mass murders and approx. half the population are leftist, then there is only one right winger for each of them to kill, so they can’t become mass murders.

    Bummer, dude!

    Just doesn’t make sense.

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  54. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    I’ve explained this to you before kk, the exact parameters of “Natural Born Citizen” have never been legally defined.

    SGA, I suggest you research Minor v. Happersett (1874); U. S. v Wong Kim Ark (1898) [the court thoroughly discussed "natural born citizen" and Justice Gray cited Minor v. Happersett] and; Perkins v. Elg’s (1939).

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  55. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  56. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i’ll tell you what fisi..

    you tell me how that birth announcement on the honolulu newspaper fits in with yr theory..

    ..and i’ll watch yr video..

    ..off ya go..

    philip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  57. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    If ever anyone was especially suited to the role of an ethically bankrupt psychotic collectivist jackbooted watch tower thug it would be you Ure.

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  58. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    philu, anyone can put an announcement in a newspaper for a birth. It doesn’t have to be checked out by the paper. IN fact, announcements were made in the paper of births occurring outside the US.

    In August, 1961, two announcements allegedly showing a “native” birth for Barack Obama were published in Hawaii’s two primary newspapers, the Sunday Advertiser and the Honolulu Star. For more than three years since Obama engaged his unvetted candidacy for the presidency, many of his supporters have mistakenly lauded these blurbish announcements as the “holy grail” of proof that he was born in the state of Hawaii.

    However, a detailed investigation of the history and procedures used by Hawaii’s municipal health department, and its relationship with the newspapers, shows that not only was it a matter of official policy that Obama’s birth would have been announced in the paper regardless of where he was born, the information used to publish the announcements is not even confirmed through any eye-witness, medical authority or hospital representative in the state.

    In 1961, the two newspapers shared the same address and facility for their publishing operations which means they received only one copy of the same vital records information from the Department of Health. Therefore, the format and content of information used in “vital event” public announcements, including births, deaths, divorces and marriage applications, were published identically by both papers, including any mistakes, omissions, order or context. No investigation was carried out by the papers’ editors to determine if the information provided by the DOH was actually accurate or, in the case of birth announcements, if the address published and provided by the registrant had any association with the geographic location of the actual birth. More than 1200 birth announcements between 1960 and 1965 were shown to contain Hawaiian addresses for registrants of births outside of the state of Hawaii, including more than three hundred in which the child was born outside of the United States.

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  59. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    ‘jackboots’..!.’jackboots’..!

    ‘hemp-vegan-sneakers’..!..please..!

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  60. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    The citizens of Sanford will be able to sleep well with a an armed gang of white supremacists and neo-Nazis civil rights group patrolling the streets.

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  61. Keeping Stock (10,100 comments) says:

    Phillip Ure said

    redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

    Pot; meet kettle..

    ..eh..?

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  62. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    This is what happens when Pharmac excutes a pincer movement prescribing the use of generic anti-psychotic drugs in the front-line fight against psychosis.

    The resident patients cower beneath their beds as the vaste knuckle-dragging army of leftist homo scum advance over the brow, guns blazing and manacles at the ready …

    Only one man stands his ground ….

    (to be continued)

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  63. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    FF,

    do some reading. It’s been debunked left, right and centre. A simple google search will lead you to it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

    It’s fucking boring!

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  64. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Wow, there the little Marxist scumbag Cha posting lies again.

    Rushing to feverishly lap up extreme left bullshit from the mainstream media, there’s hardly ever a post he makes that isn’t so.

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  65. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    philu (11,137) Says:
    April 9th, 2012 at 10:32 am

    redbaiter…step..back..from..the..bong..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

    No, Philu, quite the contrary, he needs to INHALE!

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  66. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Davinci, its slimy little Marxist cowards like you who have allowed the National Party to become just another socialist tool of oppression. Fuck off and work for Labour or the Greens. You’ve got no business placing yourself anywhere on the right.

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  67. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    The first thing he should do is stop playing about here and get outside and do his lawns before he gets into trouble.

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  68. Leaping Jimmy (15,947 comments) says:

    phil how ignorant thou art…

    In 2011, Obama continued the destructive pattern he followed in years one and two. Throughout his tenure, he’s done what supporters thought impossible.

    Across the board on domestic and foreign issues, he governed to the right of George Bush. He’s waged multiple imperial wars, plans others, looted the nation’s wealth, wrecked the economy, consigned growing millions to impoverishment without jobs, and institutionalized tyranny to target dissenters challenging political corruption, corporate crooks, or abuse of power lawlessness.

    He also promotes regime change in Syria, Iran, Venezuela, Lebanon, and other independent states. In addition, he targets Russia’s military strength and China’s growing economic might. At the same time, he supports ruthless, corrupt tyrants.

    Moreover, he authorized indefinitely detaining anyone called a national security threat without charge (including US citizens). He continues Bush’s rendition and torture policies, authorized killing US citizens abroad, (like Anwar Al-Awaki for opposing America’s belligerency), and deployed Special Forces death squads covertly to 120 or more countries.

    Notably, he destroyed hard won labor rights, wants education commodified and made another business profit center, and wages war on whistleblowers, dissenters, Muslims, Latino immigrants, and environmental and animal rights activists called terrorists.

    Throughout his tenure, he’s governed lawlessly for the monied interests that own him. He hasn’t disappointed at the expense of core constituents and others deserving better.

    Tell he hasn’t done all of this and more phil. And you, a pwogwessive, supports him in this? Really? You ARE a pwogwessive, aren’t you phil? Yes you are. We know you’re proud of that label. So this is what pwogwessives stand for? Well I never. And all of you guys in the Gweens and Wussel and everyone, are ALL liking all of this, aren’t you. Crikey.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/washington-insider-obama-member-of-chicago-gay-mans-club/

    http://outing-barry-stevenson.blogspot.co.nz/2011/10/winning-white-house-in-grand-style.html

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/11/28/the-obama-doctrine-imperialism-masked-humanitarian-interventionism.html

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/11/30/white-house-insider-there-is-a-very-uneasy-peace-between-president-obama-and-the-american-military/

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  69. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Like I said Russell, you better get out and do the lawns or no you know what this month!

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  70. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    so..fletch…this ‘chosen-one”/manchurian-candidate from birth..was born in kenya…

    ..and at the time of his birth…those who had chosen him had the conspiratorial-foresight to claim in the hawaai press that he was born there..thus qualifying him for the presidency..?

    ..have i got that right..?

    ..one question for you..

    ..if these conspirators (any idea who they are/were/b/t/w//and their motives..?..and why him..?.and how id they know that he was ‘the chosen-one)..if they had the organisational clout to do all that..

    ..and knew of his upcoming birth..

    ..why didn’t they just bring the mother to america/hawaai..?

    ..and avoid all those complications to their fiendish-plan..?

    ..hate to bring logic into all this..but..y’know..!

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  71. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Ever wonder why John Key is such a useless left wing drop kick? He’s advised by a coterie of limp dicked commie “media minders” like thedavincimode.

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  72. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Trade a bit slow at redneckbaptistnutter.co.nz Russ?

    How come you’re back? I missed you. Will we see your little trouser chum KrisK shortly?

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  73. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    excitable-jim..you post links to four far-right-loony blogs..

    ..the first of which promises an expose of how a member of obamas’ team is ‘gay’..?

    …you’r just ringing my bell..aren’t ya..?..taking the piss..?

    ..yeah right..i’ll click on them…

    ..i don’t need to..we already have you and redbaiter as our local far-right carpet-chewers..

    ..with fletch representing the old testament rapturists..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  74. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Don’t worry Davinci, you’ll no doubt soon find some reason to run off whining to mummy Farrar like you did last time I reduced you to bleeding pulp, you gutless little commie dickie licker.

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  75. nasska (10,674 comments) says:

    Time to send out for popcorn…Davinci has hit form again!

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  76. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Nasska- another dull brained drongo that makes it so easy to stay away from Kiwiblog.

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  77. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    popcorn, yeah!

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  78. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    You really wish I had don’t you, you poor old thing.

    How come your counter got re-set to zero? Did you tell him to shove it and then come snivelling back?

    “Nasska … makes it so easy to stay away from Kiwiblog.

    But not for you eh ‘baiter. :)

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  79. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Request-an-insult time. Pick me me me me :)

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  80. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    philu,

    Probably nothing to do with the “chosen one” at that time…

    It could be as simple as his mother wanting him to benefit from having US Citizenship, since she was an American.

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  81. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    @cha

    Nothing better than some race-baiting by the MSM to fan the flames and trying to foment riots they can then cover.
    The usual suspects (Jackson, Sharpton etc) and Obama desperately want this to be a ‘race’ issue.

    Victor Davis Hanson has a good article on this.
    From the Trayvon Martin Tragedy to a National Travesty

    http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/from-the-trayvon-martin-tragedy-to-a-national-travesty/?singlepage=true

    The MSM is trying very hard to keep it going, twisting and turning and doctoring ‘evidence’.

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  82. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    kk

    You already are insulted. The mere fact of being here means that you are leftist knuckle-dragging homo limp-dick commie scum.

    Please don’t feel left out.

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  83. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Yeah O_A, describing an armed mob of neo-nazis as a civil rights group makes it a race issue?.

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  84. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Like every other yellow piece of Marxist shit, the more truth Davinci is forced to face, the more frantic and desperate his attempts at ridicule become.

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  85. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Piss off Cha, go back to your daily reading of Das Kapital and STFU.

    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/04/sanford-fl-police-deny-any-indication-of-neo-nazis-patrolling/

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  86. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Don the Kiwi who the fuck cares if thick septics are black white or fucking purple.
    As long as the thick bible bashing arseholes stay the fuck out of NZ.

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  87. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Come on, you can do better than that you old pussy cat.

    If there’s no trade at redneckbaptistnutter.co.nz, why don’t you amalgamate with the lazy magpie. It would be far more cost-effective to have one site that nobody visits rather than two.

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  88. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    grumpy

    “As long as the thick bible bashing arseholes stay the fuck out of NZ.”

    Whoops. Too late.

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  89. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    is it still a full-moon..?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  90. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    Redbaiter – You come back spitting in our faces, insulting your/our host. You are nasty and vile. Go away.

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  91. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Davinci is one of those who thinks Key should be a Marxist in order to remain popular with his yellow media friends. Its why the Nats are impotent losers.

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  92. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Yeah RB, my bad. It’s only a white rights group.

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  93. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Key is done next election. Well done Davinci and others. (not that he was ever worth a pinch of goat shit anyway)

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  94. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Silly magpie. Its always full moon between the m’baiter’s ears.

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  95. Leaping Jimmy (15,947 comments) says:

    ..the first of which promises an expose of how a member of obamas’ team is ‘gay’..?

    No that’s Obama himself phil. That’s right. Your hero’s gay. Which is fine. If he’d admit it. But he doesn’t want to. Apparently he likes old white guys to suck him off. Makes him feel powerful. That about fits his personality.

    And you like him. You liked Hulun too, didn’t you. I suppose you also liked Blair.

    Your discernment is appalling phil. Perhaps if you weren’t so blinded by ideology but then again, you are a lefty, aren’t you…

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  96. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    “Apparently he likes old white guys to suck him off.”

    LOL. There ya go ‘baiter …

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  97. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    red..is ‘STFU.’ a new leftist publication..?

    ..if not..it’s a good name for one…

    and does d.v. really work with/for the manchurian candidate for the global neo-lib conspiracy to turn new zealand into a bolt-hole for those global-elites..?

    ..(that’s why no capital gains tax..)

    ..ew..!..eh..?..(do you have a soul-for-sale t-shirt..?..)

    ..i wonder if he got to go to the briefings key used to get from that conspiracy-financing english lord..?

    ..on the tarmac at wellington airport…

    (‘secure’/regularly swept..the plane..ya see..they could talk freely/openly..eh..?..that candidate…and his master..?..)

    .did you get to go to those..?..d.v..?

    ..if not..did you ever wonder just what that was all about…?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  98. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    As I said above Davinci- just more frantic and more desperate.

    I should have included pathetic.

    (‘Bout time you went whining to Farrar again isn’t it?)

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  99. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    So, let me see, Obama is a gay, muslim, non-american, kenyan, marxist, racist, radical, anti-american, harvard-educated elitist, drug addict, terrorist president who can’t use photoshop properly to fake his birth certificate.

    Did I cover everything?

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  100. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    You, candle light, soft music … Obama …

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  101. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    That’s funny Davinci considering who you most likely have a daily fellatio session with.

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  102. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Just consider it.

    You might catch him off-guard and get the real skinny on the birth certificate.

    I’m sure your inflatable Sarah Palin doll wouldn’t mind.

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  103. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Wow, the love fest continues.

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  104. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    DId I cover everything?

    Nope, you missed his social security numbers fraud.

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  105. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Talking of inflatables, Davinci, did you ever get a replacement for the worn out Whoopi Goldberg model?

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  106. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    So, let me see, Obama is a gay [don't think so], muslim [at least sympathetic to Muslims], non-american [probably], kenyan [could be], marxist [he is maybe sympathetic to communism and is certainly socialist], racist [don't think so? but he loves to play the race card as a reason for why people don't like him], radical [definately], anti-american [certainly], harvard-educated elitist [probably], drug addict [doubtful], terrorist president [he certainly sides with terrorist sympathies - just given Egypt $1.5 billion] who can’t use photoshop properly to fake his birth certificate. [wasn't him - probably a Whitehouse intern]

    You forgot anti-Colonialist – which may explain much of what he does.

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  107. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    are ‘inflatables’ a bankster tool-of-trade..?

    ..something to do with derivatives..?..or bonuses..?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  108. F E Smith (3,302 comments) says:

    In yesterday’s GD, Tinman accused me of lying about parole board composition (!) based on what some forensic psychiatrist told him. I have only just noticed that comment and have replied, but just in case Tinman doesn’t go back there, I am cross-postings answer here, so apologies for this seemingly random comment:

    Tinman,

    Your forensic psychiatrist is telling fibs. The standard parole board is three people, one judge and two laypeople. Personally, I have never appeared in front of a 5 person parole board, and would be suprised if such a panel had two DCJs on it.

    All if the boards I have appeared in front of have had three members.

    You saw what Nookin posted with regards the legislation; do you really think Corrections would pay for 5 members, including TWO judges, when they could do it legally with three?

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  109. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Tinman is a typical Kiwiblog retard. Don’t take him so seriously.

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  110. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Wow. That’s a bit random.

    And why Whoopi ‘baiter? A little Florida “civil rights group” undertone bubbling to the surface there old thing, you bein’ a good ole boy in all?

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  111. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    LOL
    ‘Tinman is a typical Kiwiblog retard. Don’t take him so seriously’
    The tongue of the wise uses knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools pours out foolishness…

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  112. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    Don’t take him so seriously.

    Kindly provided by ‘baiter for those who don’t quite get irony.

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  113. F E Smith (3,302 comments) says:

    Further to my last comment,

    Tinman,

    You should really fact check before you accuse someone of lying.

    http://www.paroleboard.govt.nz/about-us/the-hearing-process.html

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  114. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Smithy, you can’t expect to swim in a sewer and not bump into pieces of shit.

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  115. thedavincimode (6,532 comments) says:

    LOL

    Refer my 11.51am.

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  116. Don the Kiwi (1,593 comments) says:

    What an entertaining read this has been.

    Unfortunately, its nearly midday – time to draw the curtain in readiness for the afternoon matinee. :-)

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  117. F E Smith (3,302 comments) says:

    Fair point, RB, I suppose it just annoys me to be accused of lying when Tinman could easily have checked the facts himself. Like most lawyers I get a bit protective of my reputation. I don’t mind being shown to be wrong, but being accused of lying I take more seriously.

    Right, back to the day off…

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  118. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    Tinman delights in calling me a communist, but I’ve never ever seen him call even the most committed example of Marxist scum on here the same. He’s just a retard. Putting anything learned and rational before such drooling morons (as are so numerous here) is a complete waste of time.

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  119. DavidR (102 comments) says:

    “Putting anything learned and rational before such drooling morons (as are so numerous here) is a complete waste of time.” So that’s why you never do it!

    Seriously, Red, why do you bother coming here? You obviously hate everyone in sight, including the host – so why? Does it get lonely over in your empty echo-chamber?

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  120. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    Analysis of March, 2012, reports by CSIRO/BOM and the Climate Commission in Australia.

    Conclusion:
    Our analysis finds no evidence that dangerous global warming is occurring; nor that human carbon dioxide emissions will cause such warming in future; nor that recent Australian climate-related events lay outside normal climate variability; nor that reducing carbon dioxide emissions will have any discernible impact on future climate.

    http://www.quadrant.org.au/Analysis%20March%202012.pdf

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  121. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Eszett, you point to an expert! Heh, I know more about OCR than the expert you quoted from that link. He (the expert) is not a programmer. He is an expert user of the software but not an expert programmer. Do you understand the difference? I sometime ask others who have are expertise or knowledgeable in Excel spreadsheet for some tips of how to do certain things. It doesn’t mean that they’re knowledgeable in Excel then they automatically understand how the software was designed/developed. The fact of the matter is, no one (even the expert in the links you provided) has given an explaination of what software that they (White-house) used for scanning? Every one is guessing.

    Its funny watching that expert’s explanation, because he seems clueless. He talks a lot of theories, hypothesizes and lots of imaginations. The guy is not a programmer. He never even suggested (if he’s an expert) what sort of scanning software that might have been used (Agfa, Fujitsu, etc,???) by the White house. There is no scanning software available today, to the best of my knowledge that can do a whole lot of things at once such as OCR, image/text optimization, fonts/image size automatic detection, hand-written signature identification and many other functionality described by your expert from the link above. Your expert’s opinion is simpleton. Such scanning software doesn’t exist today. He has put his faith in some unknown scanning software in order to debunk the multilayer forged BC, but he didn’t state that scanning software X , Y, Z can do all that. That expert failed in his debunking. He talked nonsense about optimization.

    Eszett, if you think it is boring, then the reason is because your understanding of the graphics issue on discussion here about the Obama’s BC fraud is simpleton. Anyway here are some readings on OCR algorithms that you can digest in order for you to understand the discussion.

    - Using HMMs (hidden markov model) to boost accuracy in optical character recognition

    - A Hierarchical, HMM-based Automatic Evaluation of OCR Accuracy for a Digital Library of Books

    - Optical Character Recognition using Neural Networks

    PS : Eszett, you can share the links with your expert, since he’s not a programmer to know the mechanics of OCR.

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  122. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and..andy..you link to a denialist ‘analysis..and quote their conclusion…

    ..that site also says oil isn’t running out..and that all arts’ subsidies should be ended…

    ..and generally seems to be a collection of rightwing rants..with all the credibility that implies..

    ..yr point..?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  123. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “Seriously, Red, why do you bother coming here?”

    I’m locked away in an entertainment vacuum at the moment Davey, with Kiwiblog one of my only options. (Can you imagine that?)

    I’m not here all that often, just STFU and enjoy it while you can.

    (“hate”.. ????????????

    pffft, you lame brained indoctrinated uneducated progressive moron, don’t you know any other verbs?)

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  124. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    LOL at Falafulu. He still thinks some rant on YouTube about the properties of a pdf file ‘proves’ that the president has a fraudulent birth certificate. Bought any bridges lately? Seriously, it is more likely that the president is a shape-shifting reptile.

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  125. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “LOL at Falafulu.”

    Shut up you Marxist POS. There’s never a post you make on here that has a milligram of real content.

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  126. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Red – can I call you Red?
    Do you even know what a marxist is?
    Tell me to shut up again and youi’ll regret it…

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  127. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    LOL-

    Shut up you Marxist POS.

    What I regret is that you’re using up oxygen that should be reserved for useful human beings.

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  128. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    thedavincimode Nope, have rope.

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  129. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Here’s a fun activity for you, Red.
    Which one of the following is a marxist?
    a. John Key
    b. Barack Obama
    c. Margaret Thatcher
    d. Karl Marx
    e. All of the above

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  130. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    Was that baiter the skinny runt on that white so called power march in Christchurch ?
    Next they are off to the army base to put the darkies in their place :-)

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  131. grumpyoldhori (2,410 comments) says:

    I’m sure Obama has held back on showing any proof just to give the absolute fuckwits of the world a chance to rant.

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  132. Chuck Bird (4,682 comments) says:

    It annoys me that we have to pay for such sexist “research”. What do others think? I think I will drop Dr Murphy an message using

    http://speakoutloud.net/contact-me

    Many ‘tough’ men suppress a caring urge

    An Auckland woman researching the behaviour of abusive men has found many of them want to love and care for their wives and partners but suppress the desire in order to look “tough” in front of other men.

    Dr Clare Murphy, a counsellor and life coach, interviewed 16 men in stopping-violence programmes for her doctoral thesis about their childhoods, adult relationships and “their sense of the way the world works”.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10797602

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  133. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Heaven forbid we should try anything to reduce domestic violence.

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  134. Chuck Bird (4,682 comments) says:

    mikenmild, are you a man of a woman? It would be nice if those who feel they much use a pseudonym could pick one so it is clear whether they are a man or a women or unsure.

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  135. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    NZ’s welfare hot spots revealed
    PALOMA MIGONE
    Last updated 12:35 09/04/2012

    The country’s hot spots for welfare recipients have been revealed, with the Bay of Plenty timber town of Kawerau landing at the top with 19 per cent receiving a benefit.

    Kawerau, previously labelled the DPB Capital of New Zealand, has 6940 people of which 1324 were working-age beneficiaries.

    The town was followed by the Far North, Wairoa, Wanganui and Gisborne districts.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6712729/NZs-welfare-hot-spots-revealed

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  136. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    http://whoar.co.nz/2012/jay-z-vs-flight-of-the-conchords-mashup-of-hola-hovito-and-most-beautiful-girl-in-the-room-video/

    “…The last time Jay-Z joined with another powerful force or nature the world got Blue Ivy.

    This time, we get a wonderful mashup of Jay’s song “Hola’ Hovito” – and Flight of the Conchords’ “The Most Beautiful Girl (In the Room).”

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  137. SGA (811 comments) says:

    @kk – As I very clearly explained to you before (and you should know from your own research) the Minor decision does not define the limits of Natural Born Citizen. Minor’s case was that she was a citizen, hence she should be allowed vote, even though she was a woman. First, the court decided that she must be a citizen because since she was born on US soil to two US citizens she fit ANY definition of natural born citizen. Their decision explicitly said that they had no need to explore the more general issue of citizenship any further. (They then concluded that being a citizen guaranteed no entitlement to vote, so if her State didn’t want women to vote, well tough – hence these days this case isn’t considered one of the Supreme Courts greatest moments, and the case is usually quietly overlooked)

    If you want some balance to your sources try the 1988 article (well before the Obama issue was even thought of) in the Yale Law Review by Pryor, or the more recent discussion document by the Congressional Research Office.

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  138. Fletch (6,025 comments) says:

    Spider man (in a new costume) punching Al Gore in the face –

    http://www.comicsvanguard.com/2012/03/spider-man-punches-al-gore-in-face.html

    OK, so it turns out to be the Chameleon the next page over, but still satisfying to see for some of us :)

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  139. hj (6,350 comments) says:

    Houston. We have a problem:
    http://dc.streetsblog.org/2011/09/13/exxon-one-mega-highway-please-texas-coming-right-up/

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  140. hj (6,350 comments) says:

    “I’m going to tell you something that my Republican friends are loath to admit out loud: climate change is real.

    I am a moderate Republican, fiscally conservative; a fan of small government, accountability, self-empowerment, and sound science. I am not a climate scientist. I’m a meteorologist, and the weather maps I’m staring at are making me uncomfortable. No, you’re not imagining it: we’ve clicked into a new and almost foreign weather pattern. To complicate matters, I’m in a small, frustrated and endangered minority: a Republican deeply concerned about the environmental sacrifices some are asking us to make to keep our economy powered-up, long-term. It’s ironic.

    The root of the word conservative is “conserve.” A staunch Republican, Teddy Roosevelt, set aside vast swaths of America for our National Parks System, the envy of the world. Another Republican, Richard Nixon, launched the EPA. Now some in my party believe the EPA and all those silly “global warming alarmists” are going to get in the way of drilling and mining our way to prosperity. Well, we have good reason to be alarmed.”
    http://www.houstontomorrow.org/commentary/story/paul-douglas/

    Third Houston Outerbelt Would Turn Prairies Into Texas Toast
    http://dc.streetsblog.org/2011/04/28/third-houston-outerbelt-would-turn-prairies-into-texas-toast/

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  141. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Looks like I wasted my Easter Monday driving back from Auckland when I could have been learning at the feet of those two great intellects, Phil and Red.

    Oh well, I’ll know next year.

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  142. hj (6,350 comments) says:

    “Suburban sprawl as currently practiced is fundamentally hostile to the aspiration of achieving a society capable of meeting even modest norms of equal opportunity. The ultimate civic cost of the US way of life, as exemplified by sprawl, is a political culture characterized by weak citizen participation, a declining capacity to provide equal opportunity to citizens, and an inadequate response to the challenges posed by climate change.

    An especially troubling effect of sprawl is the perpetuation of inequality. When people separate themselves geographically by income, race, and other characteristics, social inequality becomes harder than ever to overcome, Williamson says. He quotes political scientist Margaret Kohn: “It is difficult to feel solidarity with strangers if we never inhabit places that are shared with people who are different. The privatization of public space gradually undermines the feeling that people of different classes and cultures live in the same world.””
    http://www.houstontomorrow.org/livability/story/professor-studies-moral-costs-of-sprawl/

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  143. Nookin (3,035 comments) says:

    If this guy posted on Kiwiblog, who would he be?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6713154/Helmet-cam-films-Port-Hills-cyclist-assault

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  144. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Nookin

    It could be anyone of half a dozen, remember we have violent behaviour and Christchurch here, so ask yourself

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  145. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    When you have a monkey like, say, philu

    Nothing will agravate them as much as being ignored.

    So, when you pull the monkeys chain and the monkey replies, like as philu
    does @ 12.41 “yr point..?”
    nothing will agravate a shithesd monkey like when you ignore him.

    Congrats Andy. And it’s not your fault that……….
    You can bet that a small dog at philus place is getting a good kicking right now.

    Drives a shithead like philu stirr crazy.

    Just you watch.

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  146. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    what a strange little creature you are there..be-real..

    ..a most unusual speciman..

    ..and i am sure people will believe you…

    ..with yr claim i ‘kick’ my dogs..

    ..eh..?

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  147. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    Fletch (2,519) Says:
    April 9th, 2012 at 11:43 am

    So, let me see, Obama is a gay [don't think so], muslim [at least sympathetic to Muslims], non-american [probably], kenyan [could be], marxist [he is maybe sympathetic to communism and is certainly socialist], racist [don't think so? but he loves to play the race card as a reason for why people don't like him], radical [definately], anti-american [certainly], harvard-educated elitist [probably], drug addict [doubtful], terrorist president [he certainly sides with terrorist sympathies - just given Egypt $1.5 billion] who can’t use photoshop properly to fake his birth certificate. [wasn't him - probably a Whitehouse intern]

    You forgot anti-Colonialist – which may explain much of what he does.

    And once again, Fletch is more than happy to provide proof for Poe’s law

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  148. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    See what i mean

    pull the monkeys chain, the monkey has to respond.
    he just has to.
    the monkey cannot resist. as in 6.01

    Pull chain, monkey speak. Pull chain, monkey speak…………….Monkey see monkey do…..
    The monkey craves recognition above all else…

    When you know that about the monkey then….have fun….
    That is why you too can play the monkey.

    See me play the monkey.
    Watch as i play with him.
    It’s realy quite sad.

    Like pulling wings off a fly.

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  149. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Well pigeon chess is a tough game eszett.

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  150. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    just in case anyone was left wondering who the monkey is,,,,,,,,,,,,eh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,duh,,,,,,

    you are right philu…………………

    it’s you………..eh……………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! duh…………….

    you philu……………………….monkey see, monkey do……..

    Shit.
    Offer my apologies to anyone who misunderstood.

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  151. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Nice one cha, that explains a number of contributors and their contributions here.

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  152. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    What a pleasant afternoon. Thank you God I didn’t spend it in the company of many of the commenters on here. You should go get a life.

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  153. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    Welfare Question!!!

    When you apply for Welfare in Pakistan , China , Asia , Mexico or
    Arab countries, what does that Government give you?

    Answer – A map of Australia or New Zealand!

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  154. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    V2
    Is that to show them where Kawerau is?

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  155. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    Students at a local school were assigned to read two books,
    ‘Titanic’ & ‘My Life’ by Bill Clinton.

    One student turned in the following book report, with the proposition that they
    Were nearly identical stories!

    His cool professor gave him an A+ for this report.

    Titanic: cost – $29.99
    Clinton : cost – $29.99

    Titanic: Over 3 hours to read
    Clinton : Over 3 hours to read

    Titanic: The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.
    Clinton : The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.

    Titanic: Jack is a starving artist.
    Clinton : Bill is a bullshit artist.

    Titanic: In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar.
    Clinton : Ditto for Monica

    Titanic: During the ordeal, Rose’s dress gets ruined.
    Clinton : Ditto for Monica.

    Titanic: Jack teaches Rose to spit.
    Clinton : Let’s not go there.

    Titanic: Rose gets to keep her jewellery
    Clinton : Monica is forced to return her gifts.

    Titanic: Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life.
    Clinton : Clinton remembers Monica for the rest of his life.

    Titanic: Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen.
    Clinton : Monica…ooh, let’s not go there, either.

    Titanic: Jack surrenders to an icy death.
    Clinton : Bill goes home to Hilary – basically the same thing.

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  156. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    A Scotsman and his wife walked past a swanky new restaurant last night…

    “Did you smell that food?” she asked… “Incredible!”

    Being the ‘Kind Hearted Scotsman’, he thought,

    “What the heck, I’ll treat her!”

    … So they walked past it again…

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  157. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    It has been announced that the police are going to be allowed to use water cannons on rioters.

    They are putting some Persil in to stop the coloureds running.

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  158. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Cha the pigeon chess in your link above, you described exactly what Mikemild and Ezzet are. They try to engage in an area where they have no fucking clue about. I brought up the issue of software layering and OCR technology and they simply try to argue from a position of ignorance. Eszett thought that he had a counter-argument to make by pointing to some experts debunking. Well that’s not debunking. The expert in the link/s he posted above, showed that the guy was talking about hypotheses & lots of imagination and sorry that’s not debunking.

    I could post more technical information & publications on the topic of computer vision technology, and that’s the domain of where OCR and (intelligent) scanning software falls under, but that would be a waste of time, since Mike & Ezzet wouldn’t understand them. So, that’s why they avoid engaging in technical arguments. They prefer to be ignorant.

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  159. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    @V2

    That joke would have resulted in a courtcase and a conviction in Denmark for you and at least a $1,200 fine.

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  160. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    What you don’t realise, Falafulu, is that your ‘technical’ arguments in this case are simply irrelevant. Can you really not see that they are just the same as ‘architects and engineeers for 9/11 truth’ or the wilful misreading of climate science.

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  161. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    Here’s the rest then MM.

    Muslims have crashed a speedboat into the Thames barrier in London .
    Police think it might be the start of Ram-a-dam.

    Following the riots in Tottenham, it’s important to remind ourselves that not all black people are stereotypical thieves and arsonists.

    The vast majority are drug dealers and rapists.

    Ngogo Mwambi has to travel 5 miles every day for fresh water,

    7 miles every day for food & 10 miles every day for medicine for him & his family.

    This is because the daft bastard and all his mates torched the Peckham Spar,

    Tottenham KFC and Hackney Medical Centre and now he has to walk to Croydon for his breakfast.

    Riots in Wythenshawe last month caused over 1 million pounds’ worth of improvements

    Muslims have gone on the rampage in Bradford, killing anyone who’s English.

    Police fear the death toll could be as high as 5.

    Sat opposite an Indian lady on the train today, she shut her eyes and stopped breathing.
    I thought she was dead, until I saw the red spot on her forehead and realised she was just on standby.

    They’ve had to cancel the panto ‘Jack & the Beanstalk’ in Birmingham , Bristol , Oldham, Bradford, Burnley,

    Leicester, Luton and London :
    Apparently the giant couldn’t smell any Englishmen.

    Years ago it was suggested that, “An apple a day keeps the doctor away.”
    But since all the doctors are now Muslim, I’ve found that a bacon sandwich works a treat!

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  162. freemark (448 comments) says:

    God, what a waste of intellect and bandwidth, arguing about whether Obama is a US citizen or not.. maybe that’s why this country is fucked. Pathetic, get lives.

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  163. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    And here is the reply.

    Response to a death threat . . .

    YA JUST GOT TO LOVE IT & HER!!! ENJOY.

    This is the lady who used bacon strips as bookmarks while reading from the koran and then she ripped out the pages and burned them……. all on a video. Type her name into the You Tube search box.

    This young lady is a very cool operator……has more gonads than the other 99%
    (pun intended)

    Ann Barnhardt is described as “a livestock and grain commodity broker and marketing consultant, American patriot, traditional Catholic, and unwitting counter-revolutionary blogger. ” She has taken on Islam and they have noticed.

    Here is her response to a death threat.

    DEATH THREAT:
    To: annbarnhardt
    I’m going to kill you when I find you. Don’t think I won’t, I know where you and your parents live and all I’ll need is one phone-call to kill you all. mufcadnan123!
    ———————————————-
    ANN’S RESPONSE:
    Re: Watch your back.
    Hello mufcadnan123!
    You don’t need to “find” me. My address is 9175 Kornbrust Circle, Lone Tree, CO 80124.
    Luckily for you, there are daily DIRECT FLIGHTS from Heathrow to Denver. Here’s what you will need to do. After arriving at Denver and passing through customs, you will need to catch the shuttle to the rental car facility. Once in your rental car, take Pena Boulevard to I-225 south. Proceed on I-225 south to I-25 south. Proceed south on I-25 to Lincoln Avenue which is exit 193. Turn right (west) onto Lincoln. Proceed west to the fourth light, and turn left (south) onto Ridgegate Boulevard. Proceed south, through the roundabout to Kornbrust Drive. Turn left onto Kornbrust Drive and then take an immediate right onto Kornbrust Circle. I’m at 9175.

    Just do me one favour. PLEASE wear body armour. I have some new ammunition that I want to try out, and frankly, close-quarter body shots without armour would feel almost unsporting from my perspective. That and the fact that I’m probably carrying a good 50 I.Q. points on you makes it morally incumbent upon me to spot you a tactical advantage.

    However, being that you are a miserable, trembling coward, I realize that you probably are incapable of actually following up on any of your threats without losing control of your bowels and crapping your pants while simultaneously sobbing yourself into hyperventilation. So, how about this: why don’t you contact the main mosque here in Denver and see if some of the local musloids here in town would be willing to carry out your attack for you?

    After all, this is what your “perfect man” Mohamed did (pig excrement be upon him). You see, Mohamed, being a miserable coward and a con artist, would send other men into battle to fight on his behalf. Mohamed would stay at the BACK of the pack and let the stupid, ignorant suckers like you that he had conned into his political cult do the actual fighting and dying. Mohamed would then fornicate with the dead men’s wives and children. You should follow Mohamed’s example! Here is the contact info for the main mosque here in Denver :

    Masjid Abu Bakr
    Imam Karim Abu Zaid
    2071 South Parker Road

    Denver, CO 80231
    Phone: 303-696-9800
    Email: denvermosque@yahoo.com

    I’m sure they would be delighted to hear from you. Frankly, I’m terribly disappointed that not a SINGLE musloid here in the United States has made ANY attempt to rape and behead me. But maybe I haven’t made myself clear enough, so let me do that right now.

    I will NEVER, EVER, EVER submit to Islam. I will fight Islam with every fibre of my being for as long as I live because Islam is pure satanic evil. If you are really serious about Islam dominating the United States and the world, you are going to have to come through me. You are going to have to kill me. Good luck with that. And understand that if you or some of your musloid boyfriends do actually manage to kill me, The Final Crusade will officially commence five minutes later, and then, despite your genetic mental retardation, you will be made to understand with crystal clarity what the word “defeat” means. Either way, I win, so come and get it.

    Herewith the picture that goes in here.
    http://screencast.com/t/zo0SM3KnC

    Deo adjuvante non timendum (with the help of God there is nothing to be afraid of).
    Ann Barnhardt

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  164. Steve (4,499 comments) says:

    freemark is posting from another country. NZ is ok, you can leave NZ, no restrictions

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  165. Viking2 (11,129 comments) says:

    freemark (18) Says:
    April 9th, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    God, what a waste of intellect and bandwidth, arguing about whether Obama is a US citizen or not.. maybe that’s why this country is fucked. Pathetic, get lives.

    AH NO. No intellect and about as much bandwidth.
    And who really cares anyway. A bit like the mindless pap that Hosking served up tonight. Mindless crap.
    And they pay him how much?

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  166. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Mike, the issue is a technical one, ie, about the multi-layered electronic form of a birth certificate. There is no such commercial scanner that’s available today (to the best of my knowledge) that does multi-layered scanning. All current scanning will be a single layer. Is your skull too thick to understand that simple concept or not? You’re trying to deflect the argument to 9/11 conspiracy, which is irrelevant & idiotic.

    Name a single person who is involved in the questioning of the Obama’s electronic form of his birth certificate who has also involved in 9/11 conspiracy? I know that you will evade, since you just made it up. See, in my previous comment, you will automatically fall back on your default position, oh, conspiracy.

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  167. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    @FF

    “…your ‘technical’ arguments in this case are simply irrelevant”

    What mm is eluding to is captured by ‘post-normal science’ and the precautionary principle.
    Facts and the truth are not important…..
    You are so old fashioned FF
    Alt scientist!
    Post-normal science is a methodology of inquiry that is appropriate” for cases where “facts are uncertain, values in dispute, stakes high and decisions urgent*”

    * And also appropriate for cases where the facts are against you and when you are losing the argument…

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  168. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    No, Falafulu, you really are missing the point. The electronic form of the birth certificate is not some smoking gun. If it were, this would actually be news, not something circulating among the You Tube fringe. But it isn’t news, for the simple reason that Barack Obama was born when and where he says he was. The meanest intelligence would discern that as much more likely than the alternative, that a massive conspiracy over decades has succeeeded in getting an inelegible candidate elected president of the United States for some illicit purpose.

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  169. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    (to the best of my knowledge)

    I think that pretty much sums up the problems that you are having, Falafulu.

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  170. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    O_A
    Are you a birther too? What fun!

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  171. Other_Andy (2,292 comments) says:

    @mm

    Is that another reminder why I shouldn’t take you serious and just ignore you?

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  172. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    if you like O_A, but I find your comments most entertaining.

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  173. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Eszett said…
    I think that pretty much sums up the problems that you are having, Falafulu.

    Eszett, the expert in the link you showed above didn’t even know if such technology exist? I keep track on new publications in various technical computing/engineering journals (such as IEEE Transaction series, LNAI series, Pattern Recognition Letters, Machine Visions & Applications, Machine Learning Journal and others ) because there may be something there that I find useful to me. I’ve seen about 2 publications on the topic of multi-layer scanning, but as far as I’m aware of this technology, is still in R&D domain. There hasn’t been any commercial implementation yet. The reason is because it is complex, it is slow, it requires huge memory, which makes it not worthwhile for commercial implementation.

    Did you read the reference I posted in a previous message above with title: Optical Character Recognition using Neural Networks? The neural network algorithm used in that paper took more than a whole hour to complete its recognition task in a fast computer. That’s just one layering recognition task. Imagine how long would a multi-layered capability scanner take to complete the same scanning task? Two, 3 or more hours? No one is going to buy a very slow product like that. Perhaps, in the future it will be solved, but in today’s current technology.

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  174. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Oh dear,
    Cut to the chase…………………
    Question is…………… R u gonna want to argue shit with monkeys like, say, philu ? Or,,,do you feel,,,

    That the monkey is right ?

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  175. David Garrett (6,422 comments) says:

    Viking2 ..classic sir, classic…I won’t compound my “issues” [formerly known as 'problems'] by specifiying which one(s) were particularly amusing…

    bereal: …Wait for it…wait for it…….

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  176. Falafulu Fisi (2,176 comments) says:

    Mike, I asked you to name a person (or persons) who is/are currently involved in questioning Obama’s electronic form BC who are/were also involved in the 9/11 conspiracy? You are evading as I said above? You just made it put, didn’t you?

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  177. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    The US election this year could become the battle of the birth certificates. Mitt Romney hasn’t even released his. There seems to be fears that his real name will become known. Does the US Constitution forbid people with funny names to be President?

    Romney himself has yet to release his birth certificate. Earlier this year, Boston Globe columnist Joan Vennochi recalled the run-around the Romney campaign gave her when pursuing his birth certificate. There remains apparently some mystery about whether the candidate’s name is Willard Mitt Romney or Willard Milton Romney.

    Obama Campaign Pounces on Matt Romney Joke as Evidence Father Pandering to ‘Dead-Ender Fringe Extremists’

    This issue has New Zealand connection – State Highway One between Clinton and Gore is still labelled the Clinton-Gore highway. At least it was in January last time I went that way.

    This is a bit stale, and there have been reports of interest in making it more topicial if Romney wins by renaming it the Milton-Clinton-Gore Highway. But this is dependant on Romney birth certificate proof.

    (The Romney birther story appears to be true, the rest is TTP).

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  178. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Any body

    Who would like to help a POS like philu support his position ?

    Calling on any philu suckarse……

    Anyone……………..
    Is there one…………… eh…..duh…….?

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  179. eszett (2,334 comments) says:

    FFS, again, the problem is with your knowledge.

    They have done the same scan and convertion tp and optiomised PDF got the same multi layer results

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

    UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

    UPDATE II: For those of you who still aren’t convinced, here’s a one-page PDF that I just scanned and optimized, so you can see for yourself that an optimized PDF shows up in Illustrator as layers. (I didn’t spend hours getting the settings right.)

    Again, you are simply inaccessible to any facts that contradict your position. It is so easily proved wrong, absurdly contradictory and totally implausible.

    And yet you keep banging on about it.

    In fact, why don’t you repeat the steps as described in that link. With your home scanner.

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  180. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Falafulu
    There is absolutely no need for me to name such a person. I am just pointing out, quite reasonably, that the same type of mind that finds accusations that Mr Obama is not a ‘real’ American are likely to also be sure that 9/11 was an inside job or that the UN is part of a masonic conspiracy to take over the world.
    In all such cases, the onus is on the accuser, surely.
    The electronic birth certificate hokum seems to have been comprehensively debunked, see for example, snopes.com. In any event, such debunking is unnecessary. If the birthers are serious, all they have to do is produce evidence that Mr Obama is not who he says he is.

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  181. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    eszett
    I’m pretty sure that Falafulu will find your explanation is not credible, because he knows sooo much more than you…

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  182. TimG_Oz (917 comments) says:

    Next topic please.

    How about this neat toy train running on a liquid nitrogen cooled superconductor

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  183. David Garrett (6,422 comments) says:

    Crikey Mikey…is this the second or third time I have agreed with you?

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  184. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    David
    Wonders never cease eh? Mind you, it’s pretty easy to gang up against the poor old birthers.

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  185. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “Crikey Mikey…is this the second or third time I have agreed with you?”

    Why in the end Dave, you were never that good.

    You just don’t get it.

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  186. mikenmild (10,720 comments) says:

    Now I really feel sorry for you David, having to live up to Red’s high standards.

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  187. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    from NZCPR…

    “A new foreshore and seabed claim has been lodged for Matauri Bay in the Far North and the Cavelli Islands. Even before the claim has been heard, the local iwi has been clamping the wheels of cars parked at the beach – then confronting owners with a portable eftpos machine demanding $200 to unclamp the wheels. The matter has been referred to the Police. If this is occurring before they even “own” the beach what hope is there that they will take any notice of the government’s “free” beach guarantee afterwards? ”

    thin end of the wedge…thanks tinkerbell.

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  188. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    i wouldn’t name the suckarse

    all i ask is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    love to hear from philu….eh !!!!!!!!!!!! duh !!!

    one thing is for sure,,
    if you pay your taxes, then what an idiot are you ?

    Smart alecs like philu shit on you cause you are a moron.
    You pay for him to shit on you. He laughs at you.

    You love it ?

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  189. cha (3,779 comments) says:

    Next topic please

    The raid of 913 by the Rus.

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  190. nasska (10,674 comments) says:

    Scientists have found conclusive and irrefutable proof that evolution is in fact reversable…

    ……Redbaiter’s wafflings.

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  191. MT_Tinman (2,990 comments) says:

    F E Smith, I did not accuse you of lying, I asked you whether you had.

    The difference should be clear, you shysters use it regularly.

    When faced with the choice of believing a man who is part of the establishment with no reason to fabricate and a made-up name on an internet blog I will, most of the time, believe the former.

    I notice that Bedwetter is on your side. Strike two for the Forensic Psychiatrist me thinks.

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  192. TimG_Oz (917 comments) says:

    Good suggestion @cha.

    One wonders how history may have been changed, had the Burtas and the Volga Bulgars not intervened

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  193. David Garrett (6,422 comments) says:

    laj: I believe Mr Farrar owes me $100…unless he wants to be pedantic and claim that the summer has ended…last spring I bet him $100 that “this summer” this sort of shit would be happening on stretches of coast claimed under that insane piece of legislation that only ACT voted against….(actually I think the Greens did too, on the grounds it didnt go far enough)

    Red: If being on “the right” means lining up with you fella, then you have got that hall to yourself….What was your name again?

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  194. David Garrett (6,422 comments) says:

    FES: I have to say to my learned friend that on the several occasions I have appeared before the Parole Board representing victims (opposing the release of your clients) it has been a five person board…

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  195. Redbaiter (7,619 comments) says:

    “Red: If being on “the right” means lining up with you fella, then you have got that hall to yourself…”

    You’re the one who has agreed three times with a confirmed commie.

    Like practically every politician in the beehive, a complete waste of space time and money and completely sucked in by cultural Marxism.

    You don’t even know what it is do you you pathetic teary eyed dropkick?

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  196. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    Good luck getting ya hundy DG…the response will be…oh you misunderstood me…”

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  197. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    he fucked himself up so bad he has had to go.
    poor old philu.
    too much shit. But,,

    he will gather himself together and be back 1st thing to tell certain fuckwits what a fuckwit
    they are.
    And their name is………..??????????????/

    Watch for the usual fukin idiot fuckwits to respond……………..

    G’mornin.

    And the first moranic fuckwit off the block will be ?
    Lets see what fuckwit will stand up to take the prise.

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  198. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    nearly time
    there can only be one fuken idiot.
    who will it be ????

    Who has his hand up to be the bigghest fuckwit of the week ?

    Who is so weak that he will be the first to bend over for philu?

    10 mins and all will be revealed.

    Hope philu doesn’t premature ………….

    There can only be one winner and his name is………….???????????

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  199. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    geez bereal..youre angrier than I am…

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  200. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    bereal, your punctuation and (lack of) style is nearly as bad as Phil’s, your blithering makes a mess of this blog, fortunately making your comments as recognisable and as easy to recognise and scroll past. But your repeat rants like last night are far worse Phil.

    Who has his hand up to be the bigghest fuckwit of the week ?
    And the first moranic fuckwit off the block will be ?
    Lets see what fuckwit will stand up to take the prise.

    You raised both your hands as your own clear frontrunner last night. You were more offensive than most of what Phil posts. Are you jealous of the attention he gets? Trying to outdo his objectionability? You may be succeeding.

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  201. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    be-real has alcohol-issues..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  202. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    p.g has dithering-issues..

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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  203. Pete George (22,839 comments) says:

    Funny Phil, most of your posts have the appearance of a blithering dither.

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  204. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    funny p.g.all yr posts have the reality of a ‘blithering dither’..(a tautology i’m sure..but never mind..)

    phillip ure@whoar.co.nz

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