Ardern on Homebrew

November 3rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm by David Farrar

Whale Oil notes that Labour’s Welfare Spokesperson tweeted:

I heart @homebrewcrew #NZMA

This is the band whom at the Music Awards said was a cunt who should suck their dicks. They are a Labour favourite who plays at gigs to raise funds for Labour. They encourage people to chant “Fuck ” at concerts.

So I’m not surprised Jacinda is a fan. I mean how can you not be if you are a Labour MP. I wonder how they would like it if there was a band which had played lyrics about Helen Clark being a bitch, and encouraged people to chant “fuck Helen Clark” and called her a cunt. Somehow I suspect she would be outraged and complaining to somebody about it.

In a Stuff review it was noted:

Initially, the subject matter might be a bit hard to swallow for some audiences – songs about living on the benefit, being an alcoholic and taking deadly drugs like datura are placed prominently at the start of the album and could come across as flippantly celebratory.

So the lyrics celebrate taking drugs and being on the benefit – how appropriate for Labour’s welfare spokesperson.

But it would be nice to know specifically what part of the performance Jacinda was tweeting her approval of – telling John Key to suck dicks or celebrating being on welfare and drugs?

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56 Responses to “Ardern on Homebrew”

  1. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    Play their music to as many people as possible and link to Labour support.

    The majority of NZers would be appalled.

    Very few working NZers have much time for beneficiary shit heads (other than the working political left in Wellington) that actually celebrate being losers.

    (disclaimer, it is understood that not all beneficiaries are shitheads and not all shitheads are beneficiaries).

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  2. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    Well, this is a perfect illustration of what hypocrites the left really are and how all of their professed concern with “offensiveness” is just politically contrived self serving nonsense.

    Yet the so called right go on falling for it, and playing along with it, and never confronting the left on such arrant hypocrisy.

    The left’s oft expressed calls for civility and manners in the public discourse is just more contrived political strategy based on deceit.

    Leftists are barbarians who breed barbarians and they should not ever be listened to in any civilised society. If they are listened to, that society will self destruct.

    Just look at the decay of NZ over the last few decades if you want a good example.

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  3. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    Both, the scummy “band” (?) and the obnoxious Labour politician, deserve no publicity.

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  4. Brad (75 comments) says:

    Those are some impressive crocodile tears you’re crying David

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  5. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    Have a quick You Tube of some of their NZ on Air funded videos that we dirty fucking capitalists pay for….
    A bunch of talentless morons wandering the country promoting left wing politics, drug use and violence through the use of American ‘Gangsta Rap’…
    And we ‘Rich Pricks’ are paying them to do it.

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  6. Sofia (858 comments) says:

    It is a little difficult when it comes to what MPs say
    Is what John Banks a liar in what he says?
    Is John Key and even more dishonest person in what he says with regard to John Banks?
    Is Homebrewcrew trash? Is Jacinda Arden the same?
    And if it is reported overseas is it more offensive because of that?

    Mr Key said Beckham was handsome and a really nice guy to spend that long with his son, but was also “thick as batshit”.
    The Prime Minister’s comments have attracted the attention of the British tabloids, featuring prominently on the websites of The Sun and the Mirror.
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/119869/former-beckham-teammate-rejects-pm%27s-%27thick%27-quip

    And is state SOE TVNZs programme AOTEAROA SOCIAL CLUB setting a standard or reflecting it?

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  7. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    “This is the band whom at the Music Awards ”

    Rappers aren’t bands. They don’t play any instruments..

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  8. themono (129 comments) says:

    Come on David, this is probably a new low here – extremely petty. Can you say you’re a fan of everything bands you like do and sing about? I love the Beatles, but John Lennon beat women. I’m a fan of Rage Against the Machine, but I don’t particularly want to rise up and overthrown my Government. I like the Doobie Brothers, but I’m not going to start going to church as a result.

    Jacinda Ardern likes a band. Big fucking deal.

    [DPF: She publicly expressed her admiration for them, at the same time as they were calling the PM a cunt. The timing is the issue]

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  9. Brad (75 comments) says:

    Lol@”gangsta rap”. Morons shouldn’t comment on things they clearly don’t understand

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  10. Longknives (4,764 comments) says:

    Why dont you write a scary ‘Gangsta Rap’ about it then Brad?? Remember to use a phoney American accent and to bleat on about how ‘Da Man’ is keeping ‘Da bruthas’ down…(Despite the fact that in NZ ‘Da Man’ is paying for every cent of this abomination to ‘music’)
    Oh and by the way- learn how to play an instrument one day.

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  11. themono (129 comments) says:

    This just in – DPF clearly in favour of long-term cocaine use after a post praising Whitney Houston’s music – http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/02/rip_whitney_houston.html

    See how stupid that argument is?

    [DPF: Boy you are desperate. For one I don;t think Whitney glorified cocaine use - quite the opposite. Secondly the correct comparison would be me being at a performance of Whitney where she said Helen Clark is a cunt, and I tweeted how awesome Whitney is]

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  12. Reid (16,509 comments) says:

    Jacinda Ardern likes a band. Big fucking deal.

    Perhaps your the one who needs to get real themono, and Brad.

    As DPF said, the point is, what would Hulun have said if a couple of Nats had tweeted they liked the band that had said precisely the same things about her? If you think she would have taken anything resembling that lying down you obviously don’t know her at all.

    Try not to dissemble again. You’re not very good at it, either of you.

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  13. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    That analogy doesn’t work Themoron.

    To make it work there would have to be examples of Houston singing politically charged songs that are offensive and abusive to politicians she didn’t like.

    But don’t let reality or logic interfere with your desperate typically leftist attempt at moral equivalence.

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  14. David Garrett (7,318 comments) says:

    Aint it great? My Little Pony…the role model for the children of the chardonnay socialists…

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  15. seanmaitland (501 comments) says:

    lol @Brad – you obviously don’t understand what crocodile tears are. Idiot.

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  16. Viking2 (11,488 comments) says:

    Little ponies are often dirty little bastards that bite.

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  17. themono (129 comments) says:

    Redbaiter – I’m making the argument that to like a band, you don’t have to like everything they say or do, only their music. The initial post says that Jacinda must approve of calling JK a cunt because she likes a band that does it. I’m saying that’s a stupid thing to believe.

    Personally I’ve never heard of homebrew, and I obviously don’t approve of calling Key a cunt when he’s clearly not. All I’m saying is that it’s total pettiness to claim that someone tweeting that they like a band means they approve of all that band does and says.

    Oh, and Reid, regarding Helen Clark, if she did the same thing (which, to be fair, you’re probably right that she would) it’d be just as stupid.

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  18. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    I’m sure poor John Key was awfully upset about what some rappers said about him. I’m sure Helen Clark would be absolutely shocked by what some of the Kiwiblog performance poets have to say about her. Big effing deal. The faux outrage is mildly amusing, that’s all.

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  19. themono (129 comments) says:

    I mean, come on… If this post was criticising the band for saying something totally inappropriate at the NZMAs, it’d be completely right. But it’s not – you’re criticising someone for liking a band that did something retarded.

    Oh – I just thought of another – this is like criticising me for liking Amy Winehouse due to her glorification of drugs. I wasn’t a particular fan of that part of her music, but on the whole, she was an amazing musician.

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  20. tom hunter (4,894 comments) says:

    The faux outrage is mildly amusing, that’s all.

    Too true. Depending on events it might even turn into The Blame Game

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  21. Bob R (1,377 comments) says:

    @ mikenmild,

    Just after some consistency.

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  22. David Garrett (7,318 comments) says:

    Bob R: You are after consistency? From the LEFTIES? Come on man!

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  23. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    DPF, please stop giving oxygen to toothy Jacinta Ardern and your mate Grant Robertson. :D

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  24. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Sticks and stones and all that…

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  25. yobha (5 comments) says:

    “I’m on a benefit
    benefit
    benefit

    yeah,I get my money for nothing
    something something beat
    scamming the government
    and toughing it on easy street

    i got my APB
    my PS3
    my TV3
    plus I got my misses pregnant
    now i get the DPB

    I lay around and make about two hundy buck a week
    I made the couch into my house, my life is fuckin sweet.”

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  26. Morgy (172 comments) says:

    Jesus, some of you apologist are rediculous. The issue is not about their music or even that dipsticks rant. It is about two MP’s of the crown who may one day be Ministers of the Crown who appear, through their tweets, endorse a public foul mouthed tirade. This isn’t good enough and we should all be outraged by it. If it was a tweet by Fred down at the skatepark, sweet…..who cares. But these two have a responsibility and their tweets were timed after they recieved their award when that wannabe gangsta let rip. Not good enough of these senior parliamentarians.

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  27. wat dabney (3,775 comments) says:

    Always embarrassing when statists try to be “edgy” and down with the kids, especially as Ardern will now always be known as Labour’s Spokesperson for Sucking Dicks.

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  28. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    Isn’t it wonderful that the socialist parties are so eloquent – and personally vicious?

    More to the point, I cannot ever recall any Act, New Zealand Party (Bob Jones et al) or National MP, candidate or member ever using that sort of epithet/language in respect of any Labour Prime Minister. It is similar to the abuse that the unions (especially CTU affiliated and teachers idiots) hurl in NZ….and also to the approach of the Democrats and Unions in the US. Just plain nasty….and a taste of the level of intelligence that under-pinned the Soviets union (Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Cassto et al).

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  29. David Garrett (7,318 comments) says:

    Wat: Remember Chrissie Carter when he was education minister? All the teachers were supposed to wear “Wassup” badges to show how cool (or whatever the current adjective is) they were?

    flipper: In a nutshell my boy…I have by no means led a sheltered life, and I was astounded at just how nasty the lefties in parliament were….as a rule of thumb, the more left they were, the nastier…Cosgrove was an exception…

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  30. RF (1,404 comments) says:

    @ Morgy.. 3.41pm. Took the words out of my mouth. 100% correct.

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  31. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    Oh yes, the conservatives are always much more polite. I make a point of voting for a nice politician, so I do hope Trevor Mallard is standing again in Hutt South next time…

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  32. Sofia (858 comments) says:

    UK tabloid newspapers are having a field day with Prime Minister John Key’s lowly opinion of English football star David Beckham’s intellect.
    Mr Key told students while visiting St Hilda’s Collegiate in Dunedin on Friday that Beckham was a nice guy but “thick as bats**t”, Radio New Zealand reported.
    In response to RNZ inquiries, Mr Key’s Office said “There is no conviction, so no one has done anything wrong.”

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  33. dime (9,980 comments) says:

    shes just trying to show how hip she is. she is the “young” mp remember.. single and approaching middle aged at light speed. cant imagine why

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  34. Shunda barunda (2,983 comments) says:

    Homebrew give out free sugar cubes now?

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  35. Redbaiter (9,098 comments) says:

    “and I was astounded at just how nasty the lefties in parliament were”

    Why they dealt with you so easily. Naive child.

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  36. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    Longknives @1.08pm: “Rappers aren’t bands. They don’t play any instruments.”

    The Beastie Boys do. Check out any of their awesome live concerts on youtube.
    (RIP Adam Yauch aka MCA)

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  37. big bruv (13,929 comments) says:

    Just to be clear DPF. Is it now OK to call Helen Clark a cunt?

    If only you had made this rule when D4J was around, he may not have been banned.

    [DPF: No, and heh I suspect he would have still made it]

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  38. bhudson (4,740 comments) says:

    Perhaps Jacinda and Clare just want to show they are ‘hip’?

    Well maybe Jacinda could be ‘hip’. Clare would be more ‘hip replacement’.

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  39. somewhatthoughtful (466 comments) says:

    Ha, this is fucking hilarious. all you saying new zealanders would be disgusted, yeah, I’m sure they would be, they’d also get them to the top of the charts so what are you morons going to do about it? This concern trolling is awesome, you guys can handle that the left have intelligent popular and articulate advocates for our cause. You morons have the atlas shrugged movies and solo passion. Not that any of you would’ve actually listened to home brew though, just responding to the dog whistle, as usual.

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  40. Key is our man (890 comments) says:

    Shows the “class” of the ministers in Shearer’s 2014 cabinet.

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  41. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    DPF –

    You have many times expressed death wishes upon all redheads. But now you are all quelle outrage about a rock band that said the PM should suck their dicks??!!?!?!?

    KETTLE: Oh pot, how black thou art…

    [DPF: I have never said gingas should be out to death. We should care for them, as it is not their fault they have no souls. I do support quarantine in Palme North though.

    If you can't tell the difference between humour and hatred (and trust me this band hates John Key), then you should]

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  42. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “the left have intelligent popular and articulate advocates for our cause”

    You’re clearly as thick as batshit.

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  43. somewhatthoughtful (466 comments) says:

    “You’re clearly as thick as batshit.”

    So which part are you going to argue? That they’re intelligent? That they’re popular? Or that they’re articulate?

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  44. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    I’ll argue all three. They’re thick as batshit, less popular than John Key, and could only be considered articulate if they were a truck.

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  45. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    I had never heard of Homebrew until this thread.

    What makes me laugh is all the wank about how the left are soooo nasty with all the howwible things they say from people who are obsessed with sticking it to those at the bottom of the social heap so the handful at the top can increase their personal fortunes.

    That is the essence of true nastiness.

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  46. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    You’re clearly thick as batshit Yoza

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  47. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    How’s this for an example of pure ‘rightwing’ nastiness RightNow:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/11/maybe_sterilisation_isnt_such_a_bad_idea_after_all.html#comments

    (about a recently killed 2 year old)

    Megatron (168) Says:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 pm
    “Well you could look at another way, at least there is going to be one less feral offspring clogging up the welfare and possible prison system in years to come.”

    David Garrett (2,746) Says:
    November 3rd, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    “Megatron: I don’t know if you are “trolling” – as I believe it is called – but sadly your point is entirely valid.”

    To be fair Garrett goes on to qualify his support for Megatron’s outburst, but they both seem to be celebrating this death as having an ultimately positive impact on New Zealand society.

    Calling John Key a cunt is quite tame next to this degree of viciousness.

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  48. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Yoza, I frankly doubt that Megatron is one of the handful at the top, which in itself negates your entire argument (unless you can link to some evidence that he is). But even disregarding that, I expect that like many of us he is probably sickened by the hideous ways children have been murdered in this country and even though it’s probably considered nasty of me to say it, the only chance that kid had in life was to be taken away from his parents. He wasn’t, he’s dead.

    So when we have these two batshit thick cunts from the Labour party tweeting their support of a band that glorifies getting drunk and stoned on the benefit and getting your missus pregnant so she can get the DPB then it’s not really us that are the nasty ones is it? Because we want to get people OFF benefits and drugs, and save their kids. Meanwhile you stupid fucking lefties want to keep them sedated and bribed so they’ll keep voting for you so you can indulge your liberal promiscuity and union gangsterism.

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  49. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    And you’re still as thick as batshit.

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  50. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    “Meanwhile you stupid fucking lefties want to keep them sedated and bribed so they’ll keep voting for you so you can indulge your liberal promiscuity and union gangsterism.”

    I tend to defer to Emma Goldman’s analysis that, “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”
    ,
    ” Because we want to get people OFF benefits and drugs, and save their kids.”

    You are deluding yourself if you expect me to believe this outlandish fantasy. Are you really that insane?

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  51. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Two non-answers. You are clearly as thick as batshit.
    You’re out of your league Yoza, go away little girlboy.

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  52. Yoza (1,879 comments) says:

    “Two non-answers. You are clearly as thick as batshit.
    You’re out of your league Yoza, go away little girlboy.”

    I see. You actually are that insane. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Please relay my condolences to your caregiver.

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  53. mikenmild (11,247 comments) says:

    I’m still very concerned about using the term ‘bat shit’ in the context of thickness. Was Mr Key’s remarkable use of this expression to describe the intellectual abilities of David Beckham his own invention? Will he forever be noted in the OED as the first recorded user of this simile? Will that be his chief legacy to posterity?

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  54. big bruv (13,929 comments) says:

    You just have to laugh at these wannabe “gangsta” types. They are nothing but scum who ape the culture and lifestyle of the worlds statistically biggest losers (black American males).

    You see it in the way they dress, they act and the way they pretend to be “hard” cos they come from the so called tough streets of Auckland.
    If I was rich enough I would love to fill a 747 with these so called tough gangsta types and take them on a bit of a world tour. The first stop would be south central LA. I would like to bus them all into south central, drop them off so they could “enjoy the unique culture of the place” and tell them that the bus will return in an hour.

    When the bus got back to pick them up I suspect that there would be less than half the original number of Auckland Gangsta’s still breathing or standing upright, the rest will have found out just how tough they are and would be laying in the gutter full of bullet holes or curled up in the foetal position crying for their mothers.

    Those who still thought they were “da man” would then go on to our next stop on the world tour. A stop that would certainly teach these low life that they have no idea how hard life can really be, no idea what it is to be a tough guy. I suspect that not one of them would last more than 30 mins on the streets of this town.

    All I would say to them as they got off the bus would be “Gentlemen, welcome to Glasgow”

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  55. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    I’m sorry,

    I got nothing.

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  56. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    Strangely enough it seems that people who run counter to the prevailing attitudes around here might be cool or even hip.

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