Soper gets shafted

January 28th, 2014 at 7:00 am by David Farrar

Trouble in Invercargill

 

From Keeping Stock.

This is a pretty unprincipled shafting of . They selected her as the candidate, but now they think they might have a better chance of winning the seat, decide to reopen nominations.

I’ve never known this to happen before. Nominations normally only reopen if there was some flaw in the selection process. There is no suggestion that Lesley Soper was not properly selected.

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29 Responses to “Soper gets shafted”

  1. Komata (1,105 comments) says:

    ‘But hey, you’ve gotta trust us man, we know what we’re doing…’

    And these people actually want us to believe they can run a COUNTRY?

    (Methinks a Tiu calls….)

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  2. bringbackdemocracy (391 comments) says:

    The Labour Teleban only believe in democracy when it suits them.
    If they could pass the unprincipled “electoral finance Act” they can do anything.

    She does comply with the “man-ban” doesn’t she?

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  3. Yogibear (274 comments) says:

    Would have expected this announcement if the candidate was a hetrosexual white middle class male.

    But this is more intriguing………

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  4. Yogibear (274 comments) says:

    Also, tisk tisk DPF – you’ve taken to the Dom Post misleading headline approach.

    I thought something unpleasant had happened to dear old Barry.

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  5. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Possibly Soper doesn’t fit the profile of the weirdo Robertson and the evil Little! With surname Soper, one would have thought it would be a breeze.

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  6. secondcumming (90 comments) says:

    Is it just me, or does that Tim Barnett bloke make anyone else’s skin crawl whenever they see or hear him?

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  7. holysheet (263 comments) says:

    your forgetting where the electorate is.

    Southland is home of the “Southern Man”
    To be represented by any other gender but a man, straight or not, just will not do.

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  8. burt (7,791 comments) says:

    Have you selected your candidate – yeah…nah.

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  9. slightlyrighty (2,496 comments) says:

    Any way you look at it, Soper is being shafted.

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  10. big bruv (13,210 comments) says:

    Is Soper not gay enough?

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  11. The only red for me is that of Manchester United (50 comments) says:

    Soper has stood for the Invercargill seat for three maybe four attempts. Her family are all staunch unionists. She is pro-life which puts her out of favour with the Labour Party. She is a tired old relic of the past. Invers did go red when they had Mark Peck as their MP. He lost his seat when he lost his battle with the bottle.

    With diary farming bring in good money into Southland, It’ll stay blue. Poor communication within Labour, but that’s to be expected.

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  12. redqueen (451 comments) says:

    What would we do for entertainment without Labour’s fumbling attempts at being taken seriously? :)

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  13. Keeping Stock (10,088 comments) says:

    Is this an attempt by Labour to prove that the Man-Ban has been abandoned? The other possibility that I raised yesterday was this; who does Labour plan to parachute in, and inflict on Invercargill locals? Heck; it’s bad enough that the Bandidos are setting up in Invercargill, without a homeless Labour List MP being inflicted on them :D

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  14. Kleva Kiwi (281 comments) says:

    Labour dosnt have a chance down south no matter who they select.

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  15. Manolo (13,315 comments) says:

    Anyone with the surname Soper is either a Labour MP or a pinko hack: Leslie and Barry. :-)

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  16. Komata (1,105 comments) says:

    A thought (and ONLY because it’s Invercargill)

    With Tim (‘Down with all American capitalist running dogs- until I become a capitalist myself’) Shadbolt as the resident Mayor, should this abrupt turn around by the (we love the ‘worker’s’ but live in Remuera ourselves) New Zealand labour party be seen as anything but ‘normal’ for the area?

    Once again an example of ‘Do as we say, but not as WE do’ perhaps?

    BTW: If Lesley Soper is in fact dumped, will she join National ‘for the hell of it’ to extract ‘retribution’ on those who knifed her?

    Stranger things have happened and there seems to be few things more vengeful than a disillusioned female socialist, betrayed by their own.

    One wonders…

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  17. RRM (9,420 comments) says:

    Big Brother is always watching…

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  18. gravedodger (1,506 comments) says:

    Soper has had problems with head office regularly emerge in public for some time and it has been intriguing to put it mildly.
    Selection for list and now for a tilt at Eric roy’s vacated seat with a Nat majority over 6000, why bother.
    There must be something in a cupboard somewhere or is it all about the sisterhood and their poodle Tim barnett.

    Far too much to expect a lazy biased incompetent MSM to shed light on it.

    I agree it appears to be unwanted attention for a scrambling party to bring trouble to the table in the deep south and Invergiggle is as deep as it gets.

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  19. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    It’s not just Soper. They extended the nomination window for Dunedin South also. Now closes mid to late Feb IIRC.

    Perhaps a signal that Clare Curran is no longer wanted either?

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  20. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    They won’t win so why hack off loyal workers like Soper.

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  21. SouthernRight (54 comments) says:

    Invercargill losing Soper, not a bad thing at all. Mind you her red jacket would get a chance to cool down, she never seems to have it off. Must sleep in it.

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  22. iMP (2,231 comments) says:

    The “flaw” David IS the Labour party.

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  23. Neil (555 comments) says:

    Living in Southland one has to be aghast at the Labour own goal. To open up nominations after Eric Roy announced his retirement is an insult to Lesley Soper. Like saying,”We want somebody better”
    I am 100% National but I admire how Lesley Soper has covered for Labour in Invercargill and that bastion of Toryism Clutha-Southland. She has door knocked her way around Southland, while being dealt a rotten hand by Labour HQ on the list.She’s not Rainbow Labour or trendy Labour. She represents the more sane side of Labour.
    Invercargill as an electorate name is a bit of a misnomer as the seat contains affluent farming areas right to the edge of Mataura and right down to Riverton.It will take a huge swing to derail National here.
    I certainly wouldn’t vote Soper but she has my respect as a true blue blood Southlander who has worked for her community.More than the usual Labour stooge who is parachuted in.

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  24. s.russell (1,559 comments) says:

    Neil is right that Soper is a true-blooded Southlander, passionate and hard-working. But she is not a Damien O’Connor aka West Coast. She comes across as abrasive and unlikelable, and her hard-left (even if older style hard-left) views do not go down well with most people in Southland. She has next to no chance of winning Invercargill.

    But on Planet Labour the party is poised for a crushing victory (isn’t that so SirCullen?). The opprerssed masses are just waiting for the rallying cry of a truly red leader like David Cunliffe (note: please close eyes to avoid seeing all the evidence that he is a two-faced manipulator who is just using the Left to further his ambitions).

    Labour is right to believe that another candidate might improve their chances of a victory in the electorate now that Roy is retiring. The reality is that no Labour candidate has much of a show, but THEY don’t believe that, so their salivation at the imagined prospect of a win has over-ruled their loyalty to a hard-working local.

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  25. greenjacket (415 comments) says:

    O come on. We all know why she has been pushed. Even by the standards of the Labour caucus, she was notably dim. There are vegetables growing in my garden that have a higher IQ than Lesley Soper. It was a balls up by Labour that she got selected as candidate to begin with – it is simply the HQ recitifying their embarrassing mistake.

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  26. bringbackdemocracy (391 comments) says:

    If they can get someone from West-Auckland to represent Christchurch-East, then they could get someone from Northland to represent the people of Southland.

    It just shows Labour have no sense of direction!!!!!

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  27. Komata (1,105 comments) says:

    bringbackdemocracy

    Re: ‘It just shows Labour have no sense of direction’

    Not so, sir, they KNOW that THEIR path leads to Wellington (It’s just being a little bit elusive and evasive, and ‘hard-to find with certainty’, thats all…)

    Perhaps a ‘weather vane’ might be a better analogy…?

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  28. Liberty (233 comments) says:

    greenjacket
    She may be as thick as a carrot. So what National got a Prime minister out of a red skinned spud A few years ago. Turned out to be as useless as tits on a bull.
    The fact is she had already been appointed by labours central committee. The defining
    difference between Labour and National. Is National grass roots select their candidates.
    Labour have a charade of an election. The candidates is then appointed by the
    Central committee.
    Now this candidate is being shafted.
    It does make you wonder if all is not well in the labour camp.

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  29. missdaisy (1 comment) says:

    OMG…..rumour and innuendo are rife on here……its been re-opened because Soper ,fine purveyor of red woollen winter coats, didn’t follow her own party rules when she submitted her nomination!

    She would have been candidate if a party member hadn’t asked when nominations were opened and closed and why weren’t party members advised that it was open.

    short and sweet……she requires everyone else to abide by the rules and uses them to her own advantage but cant follow them herself…..”do as I say and not as I do”

    Ask around and the locals will spill their guts…….got some good stuff on the Nats too but will save that for another outing…..ta ta

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