Pellett blaming the Chinese

March 20th, 2014 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

tweeted yesterday:

 

Pellett is a donation to both Labour and David Cunliffe and meant to be involved in their economic policy development. As you can see he has concluded the problem is Chinese expat house owners.

Note his robust source of data – a mate who texted him. And somehow this mate not only went around 25 houses, but went out of his way at every house to ask about the ethnicity of the owner, and whether or not they are expat. His data sounds about as reliable as a typical caller into talkback radio.

 

Bill Ralston congratulates him on behalf of Winston. Ralston also supplies a fact, as opposed to a text from a mate:

 

So Pellett asked for some facts, and got them.

 

But amazingly even after Ralston supplies the source, Pellett seems to suggest that the data may be made up or manufactured. This from the economic genius who cited a text from a mate as his source.

 

I then helpfully stepped in and provided a media report citing the BNZ data. So we have Pellett arguing 92% of homes sought by his buyer mate were owned by Chinese expats vs the BNZ data from reat estate agent sales that found it was 1.2%. You’d think he’s give up, but no.

 

Now he is claiming that the Auditor-General or someone has to audit the BNZ data before he will accept it. This would be more hilarious than tragic if it were not for the fact he started the discussion by citing a tweet from a mate claiming that 92% of homes he had looked at were owned by Chinese. He certainly does know shit data when he sees it, but because it allowed him to bash the Chinese, he used it.

 

Then finally he claims it is not about race, but foreign ownership. However he is the one who tweeted explicitly citing Chinese expat owners. Bit too late at the end to try and say it isn’t about race. The reality is he tried to scaremonger over Chinese buyers based on an anecdotal text from a mate. And then when called out on it, he rubbished any data that contradicted his mate’s text.

And this is who is helping Labour write their economic policy. That’s the really scary thing.

UPDATE: A reader has pointed out to me that Pellett wasn’t so opposed to foreign investment when he got hundreds of thousands of dollars from Jim Anderton in grants for his company, and then sold it off to a foreign buyer. Also it has been suggested that he ask family members how they would feel about his mate racially profiling them on the basis of assumed ethnicity if they were home owners.

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67 Responses to “Pellett blaming the Chinese”

  1. alex Masterley (1,510 comments) says:

    This bloke is supposed to be one of NZ’s leading business people?
    The lack of understanding is astonishing.

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  2. Ross12 (1,410 comments) says:

    Pellett caught out with his own spin but doesn’t know how to spin out of it. Maybe Brian Edwards will get a new client.

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  3. CHFR (227 comments) says:

    When your support comes from someone with a twitter name deep red then you are in trouble.

    I guess if you are getting no traction with the public it is best to start screaming “Fire”

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  4. doggone7 (777 comments) says:

    ‘And this is who is helping Labour write their economic policy. That’s the really scary thing”? Right on, things will be infinitely more sensible with Cameron Slater writing policy.

    “This bloke is supposed to be one of NZ’s leading business people?
 The lack of understanding is astonishing.”
    Hekia Parata is NZ’s leading person in education. She’s no outsider, no adviser, no candidate, she’s the main person. Her lack of understanding is profound.

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  5. bhudson (4,738 comments) says:

    Pellett used the term expatriate Chinese, so he is talking about Chinese nationals living in New Zealand.

    What he is advocating is that ‘foreigners’ living in New Zealand, contributing to our economy and society, should be constrained in which investments they are permitted to make in their country of residence.

    I wonder if he thinks they should be allowed to travel on the same buses as us?

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  6. tas (623 comments) says:

    Why is it that the left are so set on believing it’s the evil Chinese behind a shortage of housing? The data clearly shows that houses just aren’t being built a fast as the population of Auckland is growing, regardless of who owns them.

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  7. J Bloggs (237 comments) says:

    To be fair, it wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of the NZ houses owned by Chinese expats were all in the Auckland Grammar School Zone. 1.2 % of the nations total property would account for a good percentage of Central Auckland housing.

    Both sides could be right on this one

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  8. BeaB (2,118 comments) says:

    I thought the Left was all for a multicultural society – inclusive, non-racist, respectful and welcoming. yet it is the Left, led by Cunliffe, who are raising the Yellow Peril scare.
    Sad, really, as well as hypocritical in the extreme.

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  9. Keeping Stock (10,299 comments) says:

    Russel Norman is pushing the same xenophobia barrow, but Bill English took him to the cleaners at QT yesterday. English’s reply at around the 1:50 mark about Norman knowing more about the tenets of communism than he did was priceless :D

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  10. Cunningham (843 comments) says:

    This whole growing trend where the media and fuckwits like this continually single out the Chinese is embarassing and quite shameful for NZ. Even the Herald had a headline the other day saying ‘Chines Buying More Houses’. The article was about foreign ownership but they chose to have this headline. It’s nothing but scaremongering and it really reflects badly on our country especially when we are continuing to push for more trade with them.

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  11. kowtow (8,323 comments) says:

    “Typical caller to talkback radio”………..rather them than the snooty progressive shite that passes for talkback on Radio Aotearoa,formerly New Zealand, sent in by beardy, cardigan wearing, retired academics who think the country should be co governed by Maoris and smelly environmentalists who shop at farmers markets and only use flax shopping bags.

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  12. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    Pellet is another left-wing hack and apologist. The man is a fraud.

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  13. b1gdaddynz (279 comments) says:

    At the risk of being flamed I will out my self as a staunch Labour supporter right up until the run into the 2008 general election. At this point I started to get sick of the negativity spewing forth from Labour and the lack of sensible policies; they had led us through an economic boom time but they hadn’t made the most of it and where leading us into strife. They have learnt nothing from this time and have declined greatly. My world view favours a balance between making conditions good for business, looking after the workers and looking after those in societies margins with a hand up rather than a hand out. I don’t always agree with everything National do but for the most part they get the balance right. Labour seem to want to stuff business, screw the “rich prick” workers and give it all to the marginalized! Their only policy seems to be lets oppose everything and promise the world with no clue how to do it? When you start blaming the ills of the world on one race it show how desperate they are and how nasty! Voters want policies that are clear, costed and actually likely to work as intended; they don’t want negative, unclear policy and don’t trust any party who says “wait til we are in power you can trust us”!!

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  14. allgoodal (14 comments) says:

    More of the same from Mr Pellett.

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  15. Fox (206 comments) says:

    shit in, shit out

    Hahaha…..thinking of the many policy clunkers Labour has come up with in recent times, and then the fact that Mr Pellett is a policy advisor for the Party, these are proving to be prophetic words indeed. :)

    I love a good dose of irony in the morning.

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  16. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    More rabid left wing race baiting, nothing else is getting cut through to the the long dead but still imagined “core Labour voter”.
    The scare mongering about the “yellow peril” should go down really well with all those inner Auckland ethnic Chinese voters.
    Jacinda Ardern must be pulling her hair out.
    Destined to be a list MP eating apples through a tennis racket for another term.

    Pellet should put his mate onto Martyn Bradbury, isn’t he one of Aucklands leading real estate agents?

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  17. band4u (19 comments) says:

    So Tony Alexander is wrong too????problem is , there is no reliable data on who’s buying what, which is why New Zealand First wants a register of buyers set up. Sounds pretty sensible to me …then we could actually have a factual discussion.

    Re the old catch cry xenophobia,thats a good red herring… I personally have the same problem with overseas non resident buyers buying up Kiwi family homes regarless of their origin.. If they dont live here they shouldnt be buying residential homes end of story.

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  18. Odakyu-sen (600 comments) says:

    It is very easy for vested interests to mislead when the terminology is undefined. For example, Selwyn’s “mate” is referring to Auckland Grammar zone; therefore, to compare apples with apples, we need to focus on sales within this zone only. Any other reference to undefined “sales,” for example, Bill’s comment of “1.5% of sales” is meaningless, unless “sales” means “sales within Auckland Grammar Zone.”

    Similarly, the term “sales to Chinese” is undefined. What about a sale to a non-Chinese agents acting on behalf of Chinese interests? Is this a “sale to Chinese”? If I sell my house to Mr. Smith (an agent for Mr. Wong), then on the face of it, I have sold to another “Kiwi.”

    All the parties may very well be telling the truth, but when the terms are undefined, then words can easily mislead.

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  19. Keeping Stock (10,299 comments) says:

    Is Labour Party shill, supporter of David Cunliffe’s leadership campaign and significant donor to the Labour Party Selwyn Pellett still the controlling shareholder in Scoop Media Limited? After all Scoop describes itself thus:

    We are the leading independent news publication in New Zealand and value our independence strongly.

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  20. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    band4u. Why, what is the difference between buying shares in Air NZ. Or owning a shop.
    If you are unhappy with it then campaign for changes to our immigration rules.
    Rules that were loosened by Clark to try and shore up the numbers and counteract the Oz brain drain.
    Importing tens of thousands of people who are moving into the inner west labour strongholds.
    We are reaping the fruits of Labour policy.
    To turn around and blame the current lot is simplistic and disingenuous.

    The biggest problem is many are too cowed to say what they really think about who (and how) we allow to come and live here.
    I am an immigrant.

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  21. ldypen (36 comments) says:

    Blame the Chinese for everything… hmm blaming a minority in your country, could work… worked well for the Germans in 30’s through to around 1945 didn’t it? Beside if I want to sell my farm and house I don’t give two flying f$%^s who buys it as long as I get the price I want.. it’s MY decision to sell to who ever I want to sell to, not the gummint, not commie Norman, Liabor or this weirdo Pellett… rant over!

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  22. Pete George (23,476 comments) says:

    What would a register of buyers record? The degree of ethnicity? The degree of residence in New Zealand? How close the relationship between the purchaser and the occupier?

    What would it achieve apart from provide fodder for people with political agendas?

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  23. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    Is this Pellett?…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YM9Ereg2Zo

    Maybe Pellett just has a funny accent, and it turns out his mate wasn’t actually going around town questioning the ethnic identity of home owners. But seriously, this is like someone trying to rent a home and reporting that he’d interrogated dozens of real estate agents and found they all represented Jews. Or people with dark skin. Or gay people. The very fact that Pellett’s friend is doing this is just horrible. Pellett needs to name this person, so we can all shun him for being a nasty racist.

    It’s also pretty bad that Pellett and his racist friend aren’t that unusual in the NZ Left. The Greens, NZ First, and Labour have all been running a campaign against Asian people that harks back to the days of the Chinese poll tax. Why are these people so casually and unashamedly racist? The racist parties still manage to score a collective 45% in opinion polls… what does this say about NZ society that these parties aren’t marginalised and treated like the Westboro Baptist church or the KKK?

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  24. jp_1983 (207 comments) says:

    New Zealand imposed a poll tax on Chinese immigrants during the 19th and early 20th centuries. The poll tax was effectively lifted in the 1930s following the invasion of China by Japan, and was finally repealed in 1944. Prime Minister at the time Helen Clark offered New Zealand’s Chinese community an official apology for the poll tax on 12 February 2002.[1]

    Hmmm, will we be offering an apology circa 2100 if that lot gets in and does what they want to do.

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  25. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    Selwyn’s “mate” is referring to Auckland Grammar zone; therefore, to compare apples with apples, we need to focus on sales within this zone only

    Labour and NZ First can fight it out for votes from the xenophobic grammar zone wannabes then, both of them.

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  26. Jordan Campbell (1 comment) says:

    His ‘mate moves to NZ’ – So his friend is a foreigner too?

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  27. davidp (3,580 comments) says:

    Pete G>What would a register of buyers record? The degree of ethnicity? The degree of residence in New Zealand? How close the relationship between the purchaser and the occupier?

    All those things. But also the religion of property owners, so we can quickly spot any “problem” where Jews or Muslims are buying too many houses.

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  28. doggone7 (777 comments) says:

    “Labour and NZ First can fight it out for votes from the xenophobic grammar zone wannabes then, both of them.”

    Meanwhile for the grammar in-zoners in Epsom there will be no fight, they will vote for whomsoever they are told to vote for?

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  29. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    How dare anyone donate money to Cunliffe. The temerity of the bugger!

    Meanwhile,

    “More New Zealand houses are being sold to people who live in China, according to real estate agents.

    Tony Alexander, BNZ chief economist, said the latest BNZ-REINZ Residential Market Survey showed a quarter of all houses or apartments sold to foreigners were going to the Chinese.”

    “Whereas last year in March, 15 per cent of dwelling sales to people offshore were to people in China and in May 20 per cent, this March, the proportion is 25 per cent. So a rising proportion of sales going offshore are to people in China of which about 41 per cent are considered as likely to shift to New Zealand,” Alexander said.

    Ralston didn’t mention that FACT.

    [DPF: You're as bad as Pellett you xenophobic idiot.

    You missed out the sentence about only 6.4% of sales are to foreigners so the proportion is 25% of 6.4% which is 1.6%. Ralston said 1.5% so aren't you the class dunce.]

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  30. chickadee (21 comments) says:

    Stupid “baby boomers” when you sell our houses to foreigners the houses are gone. On the news Tuesday night 12% of our Auckland houses are sold to overseas buyers. So if this happens every year how long before less houses are owned by Kiwis than by foreigners? Surely not long at all. Of course it helps “baby boomers” accumulate wealth but how long do you people expect to live for anyway? Can’t take it with you.

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  31. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Buyers from China are big business for one Auckland real estate agent office.

    “I’d say my ratio is about five to one,” says Remuera real estate agent Eric Chase.

    “In fact what we’ve done here is we’ve got a Mandarin speaking auctioneer who works with me and we basically duel it out during the auctions.”

    http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/chinese-buyers-snap-up-kiwi-real-estate-5867025

    Hmmm 5 to 1 is quite a significant percentage. Strange that Ralston and Mr Farrar forgot to mention that.

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  32. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    I wonder if any real estate firms in Invercargill employ a Mandarin speaking auctioneer…

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  33. aquataur (56 comments) says:

    Pellett is right.

    Everyone is looking at stats from real estate agents who are hardly unbiased in this matter – they have a vested interest in pushing property prices higher. Since when has the Government used real estate agents data as a basis for making policy ?

    Here are some facts from Epsom

    The last auction we went to in our street (Grammar zone) – 18 of the 20 registered buyers were Asian. Of course some may be residents but some were not. How did we know – we assume residents do not need translators when they are bidding

    My grand-daughter goes to a local school here – she is one of 2 Europeans in here class – the rest are Asian.

    I am a 5th gen Kiwi – my parents and grandparents, and my immediate family have contributed much over the years at a voluntary level to help build this country. Our taxes have paid for the infrastructure and amenities that exist here. As have several relatives who have died in wars to protect our way of life. We didn’t do this so folk with ‘tainted’ money can waltz over here and push us and our children out of the areas we have grown up in

    I strongly believe that the only people who should be able to own residential real estate in NZ are NZ residents/citizens and Australian residents/citizens (on the basis of our reciprocal rights to live and work in each other’s country). If others want to invest, they should go through the OIO – we do want foreign investment but into business and infrastructure not into residential property

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  34. RightNow (6,986 comments) says:

    “Ralston didn’t mention that FACT.”
    “Strange that Ralston and Mr Farrar forgot to mention that.”

    Gee rossie, you really need to be tweeting for yourself to make sure the FACTS get out there.
    I really think this is important for voters to know, this is Labour heartland stuff – appealing to the battling strugglers who just want to get a foot on the property ladder, in Auckland Grammar zone.

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  35. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    Ross. You need to hit yourself in the head with a calculator until you are a little less numerically stupid.
    25% of houses sold to offshore buyers are being bought by chinese buyers. That does not equate to a full blown invasion.
    Race baiting, the last resort of left wingers staring at a pantsing.
    You disgust me.

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  36. thedavincimode (6,710 comments) says:

    from Ralston:

    Fact: 6% of sales to “foreigners”. Fact: Only 1.5% of sales to Chinese

    Fact: 1.5% is 25% of 6%.

    ross69, what’s your address? I’ll send you a calculator.

    Cunningham

    I agree entirely. It is absolutely cringe-worthy. It’s one thing to make a complete cunt of yourself domestically. It’s another matter entirely when politicians and arse-wipes like this dead-beat Pellett look to embarrass and in effect deride the entire country through this kind of low rent carry on. And as you suggest, the media leads the cheer-leading from the sidelines instead of getting acquainted with the facts and condemning the use of Chinese as a convenient political whipping horse.

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  37. Rick Rowling (812 comments) says:

    Bullshit political spin

    John Key gets photo-op with the Chinese premier, quick, get some anti-Chinese bigotry out there – maybe people will love Labour instead…

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  38. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,888 comments) says:

    A brain the size of a bb pellett.

    Just right for a Labour policy adviser.

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  39. Odakyu-sen (600 comments) says:

    All these smart, wealthy, ambitious, ___________ (insert ethnic group) are going to change Auckland society permanently. Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe this is not a good thing.

    Remember, change causes stress to the local population as they realize their world is different to what they remember. They realize this by what they see and hear for themselves, and what they see and hear in the media. The trick is to make gradual, constant change to minimize this stress.

    The young won’t know the difference. If you grow up in Howick where a significant proportion of children are the sons and daughters of immigrants, then that will be your reality and normality. The seniors will just be happy to receive their pensions and will be grateful to the hard-working tax-payers who provide the funding.

    Just keep the 30s to 60s age-groups preoccupied, and no one will really get stressed out enough to do anything silly.

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  40. wreck1080 (3,884 comments) says:

    I find it difficult to believe only 1.5% of sales are to chinese.

    This would mean there are fewer chinese in auckland than in 1995 assuming sales to chinese have been constant (I believe they have been increasing though).

    Perhaps , the question should be the ‘source’ of the money buying houses. eg, a recent ‘kiwi’ chinese person may be running around auckland buying houses (you see them all the time, the poorly driven slow cars trawling the suburbs looking for open homes ). The house sale will be recorded as a kiwi sale, but the guy moved to nz a few years ago and is buying using money from his chinese business.

    That is another point, given many chinese have businesses running in china, I wonder if they pay tax on that income now that they ‘live’ here.

    Also, if this guy says out of 25 houses, 23 were owned by chinese. That could well be a fact even if not a representative fact.

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  41. Fox (206 comments) says:

    @ aquataur 10:20am

    First you speculate that many of the Asian buyers aren’t residents, but you then go on to contradict that by pointing out that the majority of students at your grand-daughter’s school are Asian.

    Unless you’re suggesting that Asian investors are flying their children down to NZ every week to attend school……

    Do you know what the saddest thing about this whole debate is?
    It distracts us from the core issue that is really responsible for house prices inflating to ridiculous levels and locking kiwis out of the market: LACK OF SUPPLY.

    And the more Labour attempts to use this diversion tactic, the less faith I have in them actually being serious about addressing this core issue.

    Now if only National would pull their thumbs out of their backsides and do something more substantive than merely tinker around the edges of the RMA…..

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  42. greenjacket (459 comments) says:

    Apparently it is OK for a “mate” to move to NZ and look to buy a house in the AGZ. So if it is a (white?) mate of his immigrating to NZ and buying up property, that is fine.
    But he “sees 25 houses 23 are owned by “expatriate” Chinese” and that is the problem.
    The problem for Selwyn Pellett is not foreign investment/ownership – it is that they are Chinese.

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  43. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ chickadee (9 comments) says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 10:13 am

    I presume you, and the generation you represent then don’t buy anything that is made in China, and make sure you don’t add to their wealth, and provide them a footstep into our country by encouraging trade with them.

    Can I suggest you look inside your own habits, before you start criticising the habits of others.

    If any ‘Baby Boomer’ started turning down the highest offer based on race, they would soon come to grips in Court – or did you not think about that?

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  44. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    Barnsley Bill (914 comments) says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 9:55 am

    band4u. Why, what is the difference between buying shares in Air NZ. Or owning a shop.
    If you are unhappy with it then campaign for changes to our immigration rules.
    Rules that were loosened by Clark to try and shore up the numbers and counteract the Oz brain drain.
    Importing tens of thousands of people who are moving into the inner west labour strongholds.
    We are reaping the fruits of Labour policy.

    I don’t think this is quite accurate. Clark inherited a policy called “General Skills” which was a simple points based system with no cap on the number of people who could apply and theoretically if you met the points threshold then you would gain residence. After huge numbers of Indian nationals applied virtually all at the same time there was panic and the rules were retrospectively enacted to deny them residence. Labour then introduced a new system called the “Skilled Migrant Category” which has a cap on the number of people who will be invited to apply for residence based on a points system. English language requirements were also raised during Labour’s term. National has pretty much kept the system Labour implemented, though has tightened the Parent category somewhat.

    To put it simply, you could say the current era of immigration policy extends from the previous Immigration Act 1987 which firmly changed NZ immigration into a skills and points-based system rather than something based more on ethnicity and national origin. Ever since NZ has taken on a more diverse and multicultural appearance and this approach to immigration is really a shared vision on both sides of Parliament.

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  45. Manolo (13,580 comments) says:

    I strongly believe that the only people who should be able to own residential real estate in NZ are NZ residents/citizens and Australian residents/citizens (on the basis of our reciprocal rights to live and work in each other’s country).

    Let me tell you: you are a fuckwit.

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  46. Jack5 (5,053 comments) says:

    Bill Ralston was (is?) spokesman for Hong Kong based Natural Dairy (NZ) Holdings, which I think was the Chinese buyer of the Crafar farms. Natural Dairy (NZ) is registered in the Cayman Islands, and was originally called  China Jin Hui Mining Corp.

    Is Ralston tweeting on his own behalf in this exchange?

    How would Ralston go as a National candidate?

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  47. emmess (1,427 comments) says:

    Pellett is a donation (donor?) to both Labour and David Cunliffe and meant to be involved in their economic policy development.

    Does this not mean he is purchasing policy?

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  48. Ed Snack (1,849 comments) says:

    I sold my place in Auckland to a Chinese buyer, don’t know if they were overseas based, but they rented it out afterwards.

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  49. Jack5 (5,053 comments) says:

    bhudson posted at 9.15:

    What he (Pellett) is advocating is that ‘foreigners’ living in New Zealand, contributing to our economy and society, should be constrained in which investments they are permitted to make in their country of residence.

    Regardless of whether Pellett is off the mark here and whether or not he is being racist, it’s worth remembering that “foreigners” living in China cannot buy land in that country, nor houses in any way similar to the way non-citizens can buy houses in NZ.

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  50. Weihana (4,496 comments) says:

    aquataur (35 comments) says:
    March 20th, 2014 at 10:20 am

    we assume residents do not need translators when they are bidding

    Not necessarily a correct assumption. English language skills are not required under the work to residence scheme and for family members included in an application (they can pre-purchase tuition) and the business categories have a relatively basic standard of english required.

    We didn’t do this so folk with ‘tainted’ money can waltz over here and push us and our children out of the areas we have grown up in

    “Tainted” money?

    we do want foreign investment but into business and infrastructure not into residential property

    If it’s new residential property that is a benefit to our country.

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  51. Jack5 (5,053 comments) says:

    Pellett apparently has been a businessman in Singapore, the overwhelmingly ethnic-Chinese republic, which restricts house ownership by foreigners.

    Singapore restricts foreigners to owning apartments and condominium units, and in houses, to owning leased properties in which the lease is of no more than seven years duration.

    Perhaps this is the origin of Pellett’s thoughts on foreigners and housing in NZ.

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  52. EAD (1,001 comments) says:

    You always strike me as someone quite wise Odakyu-sen

    A democracy requires a demos. Does a state enforced multiCULTURAL policy have a demos?

    I think we will be more successful than other countries that import those from different cultures for 3 reasons:
    – our population is much smaller and hence people are not forced to live cheek by jowl with alien cultures if they don’t wish
    – the quality of immigrants is so much higher than the slow motion disaster that is occurring in Europe.
    – the majority come here to work and integrate in society. compare that with European recent immigration

    As long as we have a core common culture we’ll be right otherwise a nation divided against itself will fall.

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  53. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    Xenophobia: peoples identity (New Zealander) is important and that identity needs a place that is theirs. A sense of security requires that unless you can swim with the elite (Raltson, Harcohrts Shanghai). The continued appeal to racism comes from sociology hacks who know little of human nature.

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  54. Ross12 (1,410 comments) says:

    Is Pellet just trying to create diversions or stir any mud in the water so the effect of this union activity is “diluted” in some way when it comes out ?

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/03/labour-party-going-judith-collins-money/#more-130062

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  55. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/diverse-auckland-are-we-there-yet/
    Diverse Auckland are we there yet (actually we nevrr get there as immigration is s sugar stimulus).

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  56. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    The continued claims of racism comes from sociology hacks who know little of human nature is what I meant.

    …..

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  57. Julian (176 comments) says:

    Anecdotal obviously but my partner and I were looking to buy a house in Mt Albert. Did DD on it, all checked out. Turned up at the auction. Lots of interest. I can’t recall the ethnicity of the people there as I was too fixated on the stress of the auction. Result: got massively outbidded by Kiwi guy there with his mother. Ran into estate agent at the pub a month later, who told me she’s a huge investor in residential property, and the property in question was sitting there empty, like most of her others. So there’s a whole raft of reasons why there’s a housing shortage, or rather that it’s difficult to afford a house, in Central Auckland at least.

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  58. jp_1983 (207 comments) says:

    @Julian (134 comments) says:

    Just think under a Green Policy, any unoccupied houses will be requisitioned from the private property owner without compensation and distributed to someone in ‘need.’

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  59. Julian (176 comments) says:

    jp_1983 (87 comments) says:

    It’s hard to imagine how screwed we are if Russel (even the spelling of his name annoys me) gets anywhere near the control panel.

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  60. Odakyu-sen (600 comments) says:

    hj notes: “Xenophobia: peoples identity (New Zealander) is important and that identity needs a place that is theirs.”

    I suspect that the most xenophobic NZers are likely to be in this 30s to 60s age group. The reason I say this is because the younger don’t know any different, and the really old just don’t care.

    My NCEA-year daughter is tutored weekly by “Brian” who is in his early twenties and studying engineering at University. When I hear him talking in the other room, I hear a New Zealander. When I look at him, I see an ethnic Chinese man. I know in my heart that he represents the New Zealand of the future.

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  61. jp_1983 (207 comments) says:

    @Julian (134 comments) says:

    Absolutely true, did you get a house in the end?

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  62. Julian (176 comments) says:

    jp_1983 (88 comments) says:

    Yeah I did. It took a while and had to do plenty of research and be patient, but they’re out there. I read about these people who’ve looked at 1,000,000 houses and been unsuccessful at 1,000 auctions and think ‘maybe your understanding of the market might be slightly out’.

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  63. rangitoto (239 comments) says:

    “My grand-daughter goes to a local school here – she is one of 2 Europeans in here class – the rest are Asian.”

    Then they are residents surely. Seems you just shot yourself in the foot.

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  64. Paulus (2,607 comments) says:

    I know a good rental in Coatsville North Albany – very large – currently rented by very large fat criminal German/Finnish passported person.

    He will be vacating soon leaving rental unpaid possibly, and owing money to local tradesman. Has agreat reputation forsecret visitors like NZ First leader (sic), Labour spy, and Harawira.

    Will try and bribe anybody to help him overcome NZ judiciary.

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  65. hj (6,918 comments) says:

    , I see an ethnic Chinese man. I know in my heart that he represents the New Zealand of the future.
    …..
    But a Chinese leader called NZ “the last paradise”?

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  66. djg (72 comments) says:

    I am surprised there are 25, five bedroom houses in the Grammar Zone, and all available to be viewed. That seems like a lot of houses available for rent, I would think there would be a fair pressure on the rentals to come down if this is the available stock of 5 bedroom houses.

    Or is it all bull shit ?

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  67. itstricky (1,800 comments) says:

    @SelwynPellett You push that racist button Selwyn. Winston will be delighted.

    When they read that, did anyone else think “Don Brash will be delighted?”

    Too soon?

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