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November 24, 2007 10:33am by David Farrar

The Australian online campaign

An AAP story on the role of the Internet in the Australian campaign.

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Tina

Much gnashing of teeth as the left can’t quite believe they are about to win as per all the polls.

Many online threats/promises from strung out socialists re moving to NZ if by some miracle Howard gets back.

Now that’s attractive maths…we get 400 a week from you, most of them optimists wanting a life not being micro managed by the state and you get our dross. Alas, it’s just a dream.
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November 24, 2007 1:07pm
Tina

And this is a pretty good summary from Blair….

“The fun might even begin tonight, if you’re a conservative cornered by some lefty commie atheist in a dire Don’s Party-type scenario. Ask him to reflect on the fact that the Left’s new hero is a millionaire Jesus-boy whose policies place him further to the Right than any previous Labor leader and possibly further to the Right than John Howard was in 1996.

And there’s your ultimate rationalisation. Rudd is following a map drawn by Howard. He’s our man in the ALP. But if he deviates, if he costs us one single pixel from our plasma screens, an Australia grown used to prosperity will throw him out of the Lodge as though it were nothing but a common gentleman’s club.”
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November 24, 2007 6:49pm
hinamanu

This is what I mean.

The world has become so right wing (Thanx to PC) even the left have become avowed right wingers.

Helen Clark is anti American , yet her close minded censorship of speech policies are everything G.Bush would condone and support.

Globalisation is certainly making politics one dimensional.

The last time I remember a govt ditching the previous administrations initiatives was ’84 when Labour got rid of Muldoons ‘think big’ projects and now we are being crippled by world oil prices instead of being self sufficient.
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November 24, 2007 7:03pm
Tina

You’re drinking…aren’t you hin?

PC is a left creation, old matey.
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November 24, 2007 7:06pm
Rex Widerstrom

I won’t go so far as to say that if the Coalition loses it will be solely because of their complete lack of Internet savvy as compared to… anyone, really… but if they’d had the slightest clue what to do with the net they might just have picked up enough votes to make the difference.

Even the otherwise very smart, savvy Liberals like Dennis Jensen just don’t get it. He blogs, but there’s no interaction. Thus it’s not a blog but just another propaganda tool. They don’t understand that if you don’t interact, visitors won’t come back.

Compare that with the Democrats’ Andrew Bartlett who genuinely engages.

I have to admit that, in most places I’ve ‘done politics’ the left leave the right for dead in intrinsically understanding how to use the net.
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November 24, 2007 7:49pm
Tina

You heard it here first, hin…your US hating mateys across the Tasman are home and hosed….exit polls have them 57%-43%.

Not to worry….I will adapt and prosper.
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November 24, 2007 7:49pm
Craig Ranapia

Ah, yes, exit polls. I really hope Sky and Seven aren’t going to stake their credibility on the things, because they sure came back to bite the American networks in the arse… Might actually be worth waiting until the results that are based on actual counts of real votes.
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November 24, 2007 8:15pm
Craig Ranapia

And creepy Oz election story of the day:

Police were called to a polling booth in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs on Saturday after a voter ripped down Liberal bunting and posters and then ran down a journalist in the car park.

The middle-aged woman allegedly accelerated at Sunday Age journalist John Elder outside the booth at Great Ryrie Primary School in Heathmont in the marginal Liberal seat of Deakin on Saturday afternoon.

Mr Elder had followed the woman to the school car park to speak to her after she allegedly waved her arms at a Liberal worker, knocked down how to vote cards, pushed down all the bunting and took two posters.

“I stood in front of her car and she put her foot down,” Mr Elder said.

“I’m crippled in my right leg, so I can’t get out of the way as quick as she thinks I can.

“I slapped the car to get her to stop but she accelerates and spins me off and I land heavily.

“I’ve hurt my right leg pretty badly.

“She gets out of the car and abuses me for slapping her car.”

Police said the woman left briefly and then returned yelling abuse.

Mr Elder said that when the woman heard Liberal Party officials at the booth had called the police, she fled with the posters.

He said when she was asked whether she was connected to a political party she replied: “I’ll get into trouble”.

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Police-called-to-booth-over-incident/2007/11/24/1195753358990.html
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November 24, 2007 8:18pm
Tina

Nah Craig..it’s always a relationship thing.

The woman reporter in question had been sending slapee risque emails….

There’s always a natural reason….but try telling the Brethran.
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November 24, 2007 8:30pm
Tina

Jeeez…the most important thing to happen to NZ is an Aust election.

And Dave has no thread.
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November 24, 2007 9:32pm
Craig Ranapia

Tina:

No, you’re rather confused there – wrong electorate.
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November 24, 2007 10:20pm
Tina

Dunno Craig….no matter who you vote for in NZ you get a dribbling socialist….in Aust there is a choice.
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November 24, 2007 11:09pm
PaulL

Election is definitely going to Labour. 5.7% swing, which turns into a landslide on the seats (I’m glad we ditched FPP, it makes a mess really). Howard at risk of losing his own seat – at current count Bennelong is going Labour by about 1-2%. Presume postal votes would favour Howard tho.

The interesting thing will be the Senate – we could be looking at Labour in all the states, Labour Federal, plus a left Senate. Trick is that Rudd has basically had to promise to be Liberal in order to get in – so it isn’t clear what would change other than some fiddling with IR legislation. I can’t fully remember what Labour promised on tax, but I think it was an across-the-board tax cut, plus raising thresholds at the bottom. That will be interesting.
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November 24, 2007 11:41pm
Paul

Oh Dear.

Labour in UK & OZ, Democrats next year in US and Labour 4th term in NZ.

Still, I hear France is a nice place to live and work these days if you support the right – that’s if you can get a train to work that is.

{oh so smug for so early in the day}
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November 25, 2007 6:46am
PaulL

Labour not long for UK, Labour not long for NZ. Sorry Paul, but try following the electoral cycle sometime – 4 terms is very uncommon. There is nothing about opinion polling at the moment in NZ that suggests Labour is ahead. And at the rate your friends are scoring own goals, it won’t happen anytime soon either.
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November 25, 2007 10:51am
Paul

I agree, but would go further, Labour is not ahead in any poll, it’s not rocket science.

However as they are only 1% of their election night victory margin, and National’s continuing inability to court parties (well their options are so small), I have faith.

If you believe for one minute that the Maori party will support a national govt then you have to think again. Of course that most whorish (is that a word?) of political prostitutes Peter Dunne will ‘swing’ (oh the puns are flying now) back to national at the first sniff of a courtship.

As for the UK, I wouldn’t say that at all. The tories have been ‘vanilla’ for want of a better term, and Brown is actually looking more than capable. They ditched Blair early enough before the next election that he won’t be as much as an influence.

I’m more worried about the poor buggers who want to shoot the coop and head off to OZ for the good life. But thank god they got in. Ratifying Kyoto, The UN Convention on Indigenous Rights, Unions – collective agreements, more child care, saying sorry to the Aboriginal people. Pulling troops from Iraq.

But as for NZ and the Labour party in the UK, the only poll that counts is on election day (this we all know). The biggest mistake Clark made after the last election – despite what others here might say, was not using the mandate for a third term to do something really inspirational and leaving a legacy, because as you say 4th terms don’t come easy (they aren’t impossible – nothing is).
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November 25, 2007 11:11am
Paul

Actually what I will say in all seriousness, how bloody stupid is FPP.

The greens get nearly 8% of the people voting for them and no representation at all. That is not democracy in any way shape or form.
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November 25, 2007 11:16am
Lindsay Addie

Paul,

The 2007 Aussie election wasn’t held under FPP buddy………………
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November 25, 2007 11:39am
PaulL

Yeah, but 5.7% voter swing turns into 25%+ seat swing? I’m with Paul, how stupid is that. It gives ‘decisive govt’ but doesn’t really reflect the public’s view. MMP tends to move more slowly, and not give such large landslides.
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November 25, 2007 10:21pm

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