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March 27, 2009 8:28am by David Farrar

General Debate 27 March 2009

I have discovered that it is not a good idea to try to sample one of every cocktail listed at a bar.

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NOt1tocommentoften

Ex post facto I tend to agree. Though when at a bar it always seems to be the way to go…
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March 27, 2009 8:41am
expat

WHAT! CAN’T HEAR YOU! SPEAK UP!
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March 27, 2009 8:50am
Murray

Some of us didn’t have to actually try that to know it was a bad idea.
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March 27, 2009 8:51am
Inventory2

Strangely DPF, as you age, you will find your powers of recovery diminish. I seldom over-imbibe now, and always regret it the next day when I do!
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March 27, 2009 8:53am
Grant Michael McKenna

All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and DPF is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.
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March 27, 2009 8:56am
peterwn

In a similar situation to a student who tried that when an assignment was due the next day? The difference is the NBR editor has a deadline and simply cannot knock off 5% a day as universities do.
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March 27, 2009 8:59am
Madeleine

It depends how long the list is I guess!

Just about set to protest earth hour. Discovered a couple of blown light bulbs so am off to replace them, must ensure a couple of spares are on hand too – my supermarket still sells real light bulbs – yay!
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March 27, 2009 9:03am
greenfly

Key’s looking for ‘hug a polar bear’ projects to cut. Those that ‘sound great but return nothing’.
He should start with his fantastical cycleway.
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March 27, 2009 9:06am
Kiwiblogger

I actually did that that in Ohakune one weekend, I could ski for two days.
Cheers
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March 27, 2009 9:10am
Chthoniid

Well, just settling in with my morning after the bike-ride to work.

How about a photo instead- a green fly no less 🙂
http://chthoniid.zenfolio.com/img/v8/p443176831-4.jpg
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March 27, 2009 9:18am
Chthoniid

… I meant settling in with my morning coffee.
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March 27, 2009 9:23am
infused

Hey David, Raspberry Cosmo at hummingbird… my god, delicious 🙂
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March 27, 2009 9:25am
stephen

How about a photo instead- a green fly no less

Well, that’s kind of gross. But that’s just me.
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March 27, 2009 9:26am
fredinthegrass

Hey, Chthoniid, didn’t know you were with DPF in the cocktail bar!?
Bet he wishes the eyes wouldn’t let in so much light.
Great image though
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March 27, 2009 9:29am
Murray

He could cut all tax payer funding to the green MP’s. I have objection to that.
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March 27, 2009 9:30am
Fletch

Anyone seen the ads on TV that TiVo is coming to NZ?

I wonder how much competition that will be to MySky.
For more info go to http://www.mytivo.co.nz/
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March 27, 2009 9:39am
Rakaia George

Surely the first cab off the “sound great but achieve nothing” rank is the Families Commission?

Oh, and DPF, just stick to Martinis…oh no my bad, you already lost your man-card over the spare wheel incident…

[DPF: Some were Martinis]
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March 27, 2009 9:45am
greenfly

Stephen said: Well, that’s kind of gross. But that’s just me.

No Stephen, that’s just me 🙂
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March 27, 2009 9:52am
PhilBest

I posted this on the general debate yesterday, late on the thread. I am surprised DPF hasn’t posted it, WhaleOil, NotPC, and No, Minister all have. It is a goodie; this guy could be the next great conservative orator. He says a lot that is directly applicable to the way NZ was governed over the last 9 years too.

Watch THIS promising young Pommie conservative MP dish out the mother of all rippings to Gordon Brown in the European Parliament:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs&feature=related
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March 27, 2009 10:01am
stephen

No Stephen, that’s just me 🙂

Allright. Whatever butters your toast/spins your wheel/fills your ecological niche.
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March 27, 2009 10:03am
MyNameIsJack

UN rights body votes to curb criticism of religion
3 hours ago

GENEVA (AP) — The U.N.’s top human rights body has approved a proposal by Muslim nations urging the passage of laws protecting religion from criticism.

Members of the Human Rights Council voted 23 in favor of a resolution Thursday to combat “defamation of religion.” Eleven nations, mostly from the West, opposed the resolution and 13 countries abstained.

The resolution was proposed by Pakistan. Muslim countries have cited the inflammatory effect of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as an example of unacceptable free speech.

Critics say the resolution, while not binding, will have a chilling effect on free speech and may worsen relations between faiths.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Unable to get a reply from the govt on NZ’s position on this. Emails to kate Wilkinson (my local nat MP) and Murray McCully have gone unanswered.

NZ has a history of being on the world’s most secular nations, and long may it stay that way. But secular nations, and secular people, need to stand up to religious bullying. I guess that’s the trouble when your elect a governemnt of economic policy wonks. If it doesn’t save a $ they couldn’t give a frenchman’s fuck!
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March 27, 2009 10:04am
RightNow

Crap… I find myself agreeing with greenfly. Key should scrap the stupid cycleway. What a waste of money. We already have a cycleway, it’s called state highway one. What we really need is a proper state highway.
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March 27, 2009 10:05am
Chthoniid

I’m afraid Stephen, that creepy-crawlies tend to be my main photographic subject.* I mean, anyone can take a photo of a kitten.

How do you feel about lizards? http://chthoniid.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p285094864-4.jpg
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March 27, 2009 10:05am
getstaffed

Chthoniid – Great photos. Thanks!
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March 27, 2009 10:08am
MyNameIsJack

This from another thread yesterday.

Bok (461) Vote: 4 1 Says:

March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Yep and again a left shows his religious intolerance and bigotry well done MNIJ I dont adhere to Andre’s believes anymore than I do that of a Muslim, but decent people and grownups allow others to practice their faith without persecution.

Bok looks like one who would support the defamation of religion proposals.

It is not persecution to criticise religion. Religion should not be, and is not, above criticism. Religion is an idea, and ideas cannot be defamed.
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March 27, 2009 10:10am
103PapPap

I’d like to start a campaign to insert an ‘H’ into Wellington (Whellington). It would do wonders for the economy (oops, whonders)
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March 27, 2009 10:13am
Chthoniid

Hey, Chthoniid, didn’t know you were with DPF in the cocktail bar!?
Bet he wishes the eyes wouldn’t let in so much light.

:D, I’m afraid I’m much more of a single-malt kind of drinker. Generally though, it’s preferable to keep one’s liver in top condition for drinking contests in China, so I seldom over-imbibe at home.

Glad you liked the photo.
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March 27, 2009 10:13am
expat

Religion is the problem Jack, the best thing to do is ignore it in cases like this.

And most people don’t give a frenchmans fuck (as we don’t have a clue what you are talking about, and I suspect neither do you my son).

HTH’s
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March 27, 2009 10:31am
James

Bok looks like one who would support the defamation of religion proposals.

It is not persecution to criticise religion. Religion should not be, and is not, above criticism. Religion is an idea, and ideas cannot be defamed.”

True……religion like any other idea must be open to question and criticism…..and there is so much to question and criticise!
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March 27, 2009 10:31am
stephen

That lizard photo must’ve been taken with a 50 megapixel camera i’d say. Nice photo. Anyone CAN take a photo of kittens kittens. Yech!
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March 27, 2009 10:32am
greenfly

DPF said: I have discovered that it is not a good idea to try to sample one of every cocktail listed at a bar.

I learned this also David, in my early years as a barfly.
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March 27, 2009 10:37am
dime

TiVo is finally coming to NZ this year… gotta ask though – does anyone give a shit?

It basically does what mysky does, although it will allow you to surf the net…. and it only gets free to air tv!

personally ill stick with my glorious media centre.
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March 27, 2009 10:43am
Murray

In case you hadn’t picked up on it yet mynameisjackboot no one gives a crap what you think this millenium.
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March 27, 2009 10:48am
bearhunter

“I have discovered that it is not a good idea to try to sample one of every cocktail listed at a bar.”

My father always told me that the only acceptable colours for a man’s drink were clear or brown. I’ve found this has always worked.
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March 27, 2009 10:49am
greenfly

RightNow said; Key should scrap the stupid cycleway. What a waste of money

Yeah. I just wonder how the idea of a length-of-the-country-bicycle-track would have been received here if it had been a GREEN PARTY initiative. I can here that howling from here!
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March 27, 2009 10:52am
greenfly

hear. Why now edit function today?
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March 27, 2009 10:52am
MyNameIsJack

Murray (2678) Vote: 0 1 Says:

March 27th, 2009 at 10:48 am
In case you hadn’t picked up on it yet mynameisjackboot no one gives a crap what you think this millenium.

That’s OK muzza, rave on, I’ll still stand up for your rights, even when you are too afraid to do so for yourself.

That metal hitting your head has sure done some damage.
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March 27, 2009 10:57am
big bruv

I note that the Apartheid rugby team is to play a game against the Sprinboks, what a pity, I had hoped that we might have matured as a nation to the extent that we could consign this stupid and irrelevant racially selected team to history.

Oh well, until we do I will continue to support each and every team who play against them.
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March 27, 2009 11:01am
MyNameIsJack

Murray, just looked at your blog – while you’re still fighting the last war, some of us are fighting the current one. Those that once were enemies are now allies, and allies of the past are enemies today.
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March 27, 2009 11:05am
big bruv

I agree with Jack (makes me feel kinda sick)

I do not support the abuse or ridicule of those people silly enough to follow religion (apart perhaps from Muslims) as they are free to worship what ever they like, however their religion should be exposed to as much abuse, ridicule and inspection as possible.
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March 27, 2009 11:06am
Chthoniid

@Stephen

That lizard photo must’ve been taken with a 50 megapixel camera i’d say. Nice photo. Anyone CAN take a photo of kittens Yech!

The stock-agency I (sometimes) submit to, has a a ‘no cat photos can be submitted’ rule 🙂

Digital photography hasn’t changed somethings though. You still need good lenses and lighting to take a good photo. I’m using a 12MP SLR as my primary camera but with very good glass (Carl-Zeiss and a mix of legacy and new G lenses*). SLR’s have much larger pixel sites than compact-cameras, so you also get a much stronger signal-to-noise ratio. This translates into much cleaner and more detailed photos.

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*, yeah, that means I’m an old Minolta shooter whose stuck with the mount after Sony took-over. I have a mix of Minolta film SLR’s and Sony digital. The pull of stabilised bodies and Carl-Zeiss lenses is strong…
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March 27, 2009 11:22am
big bruv

I hope all Kiwi blog contributors will join me in turning ON all electrical appliances and light switches in the house during tomorrow’s “earth hour”.
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March 27, 2009 11:27am
Inventory2

I shall indeed big bruv. All lights will go on, and all blinds and curtains will be opened to ensure that passers-by know what our whare thinks of Earth Hour
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March 27, 2009 11:43am
getstaffed

Yup – It’ll be lit up like like Christmas at Chateau Getstaffed. Might even fire up the big Merc and make sure the folks in the next suburb can hear me.
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March 27, 2009 11:50am
greenfly

Big Bruv said: join me in turning ON all electrical appliances and light switches in the house

Great idea Big! If you notice that there is some dust in one of your 3-pin sockets, dig it out with a fork.

Inventory2 – your whare is amazing! It can think! Most built structures that I know just sit there, unthinkingly.
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March 27, 2009 11:53am
Atheist1

Big Bruv – I hope all Kiwi blog contributors will join me in turning ON all electrical appliances and light switches in the house during tomorrow’s “earth hour”.

Too friggin’ right, mate!!!!!!!! It’s right in the middle of the Warriors game, what were they thinking???!
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March 27, 2009 11:59am
Redbaiter

Debate dominated by Greenfly and MyNameIs Jerkoff.

What a fucken yawn.
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March 27, 2009 12:00pm
Murray

Thats funny, the genocidal jack calling other people ravers.

You and greenfly should really get room.
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March 27, 2009 12:03pm
Manolo

“I hope all Kiwi blog contributors will join me in turning ON all electrical appliances and light switches in the house during tomorrow’s “earth hour”.”

I don’t give a toss about Earth Hour. It’s a big con supported by Luddites, do-gooders, and gullible people. On the other hand, I don’t want to pay even more money to the rapacious SOE that supplies my electricity.

My course of action: ignore this non-event and live your life as normal.
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March 27, 2009 12:07pm
Inventory2

Strange things happen in Wanganui greenfly!
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March 27, 2009 12:12pm
Ratbiter

Yep – environmentalism is SO offensive, that it would only be fit and proper to react to Earth Hour like a smart-arse child and switch everything on just because you can.

Very very impressive chaps 😛

Ever wondered why online chatrooms and forums are so marginalized in the everyday view of the real world? Look no further.
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March 27, 2009 12:13pm
big bruv

Greenfly

There will be no free sockets, I will find something to plug into each and every one of them.

I also plan to run the heat pump at full blast, if it gets a bit warm I (like IV2) will open all the curtains and windows.
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March 27, 2009 12:14pm
MyNameIsJack

Redbaiter (5404) Vote: 0 2 Says:

March 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Debate dominated by Greenfly and MyNameIs Jerkoff.

What a fucken yawn.

Found that birth certificate yet troll boy?
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March 27, 2009 12:17pm
village idiot

Fear not little green pest. I’ll redress the balance by pinging some street lights with my trusty slingshot. Address Big Bro? Suburb will do.
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March 27, 2009 12:25pm
Ratbiter

“I have discovered that it is not a good idea to try to sample one of every cocktail listed at a bar.”

Depends entirely upon whether you’re talking about a bar like the Matterhorn that has hundreds of cocktails (The “Bling Bling” $100 Long Island Iced Tea, anyone?) or a bar like the Hawthorne lounge that only knows about 5 cocktails, or some sports bar where they think filling a jug with Lyon Rouge without spilling any is pretty classy…
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March 27, 2009 12:28pm
big bruv

Ratbiter

As usual you are not telling the truth, the watermelons have decreed that every house that is “blacked out” is a vote for action on climate change, many of us think that climate change is a con and that people like you want to use it as the trojan horse for hard left socialism.

Yes you will con a few people into turning everything off, most of them will be unaware that you chaps are going to use their action as a vote for your cause, most who do participate are doing so in the mistaken believe that their actions will have a difference when both you and I know that is not going to make one ounce of difference.

Perhaps you should tell the full story when you run or support a campaign like this.

http://www.earthhour.org/about/nz:en
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March 27, 2009 12:31pm
Ratbiter

big bruv – learn to read, chap! I am not supporting Earth hour. I am saying some of the objections to Earth Hour that we are seeing above would seem petty if a 5-year-old were proposing them 😀

There may be no difference, in your mind.. perhaps this is one reason why you always end up having fights with everyone?
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March 27, 2009 12:34pm
Manolo

You’re not only a socialist but also a confused one Ratbiter.

Environmentalism is not offensive at all. In fact, most of us take care of resources, such as water and electricity, recycle whenever possible, and so on.

What I object to is your fundamentalist attitude, the desire to ram your views down the throat of the rest of us who are not convinced of the validity of your global warming theories.

I don’t need your help to change my attitude towards natural resources. I conserve them most of the time without being told by Luddites of your ilk.
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March 27, 2009 12:57pm
Ratbiter

Manolo – yes I am confused! Where have I rammed my global warming theories down your throat exactly?

Just one example will do.

Learn to read comment as per Big Bruv. Creating a straw man and then arguing with him is a waste of everyone’s time.
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March 27, 2009 1:03pm
greenfly

Ratbiter – good luck in your quest to find reason amongst those reactionaries. Big Bruv has created so many strawmen in his time, that some call him Worsel Gummage. There is perhaps a glimmer of hope peeking out from beneath Manolo’s cloak of intolerance, where he says’
“Environmentalism is not offensive at all” and you know, he’s right!
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March 27, 2009 1:13pm
big bruv

“Environmentalism is not offensive at all”

Damn right, what is offensive is the way the left have hijacked a good and noble cause in an effort to usher in communism.
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March 27, 2009 1:22pm
getstaffed

Bruv, you’d have two +ve karmas from me if I could do it. That’s spot on.
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March 27, 2009 1:34pm
Gooner

“I have discovered that it is not a good idea to try to sample one of every cocktail listed at a bar.’

That should be illegal, damaging your internal organs like that.

Oh wait it is……………but for Cannabis only.
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March 27, 2009 1:35pm
Whafe

have to agree with big bruv, what the majority of left types forget to realise is that there is many ways to tell a story / get information through to others….

greenfly – tell me how in your leftist views and ideals we are going to feed a population mid this century of some 9 Billion peeps?
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March 27, 2009 1:36pm
greenfly

Aye Carumba! Big Bro believes environmentalism is a ‘good and noble cause’ I’m thunderstruck and filled with love for my fellow environmentalist!

Whafe – those ‘9 Billion peeps’ will grow their own. I’ve already mastered that art. I’m working with my local community and the wider region so that everyone can do the same. Self determination. It’s the only way foward, Whafe, unless you know a better way? Feel free to educate me. (I hope your solution doesn’t rely on ‘corporate’ farming, cause that’s a cause that’s dead in the water).
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March 27, 2009 1:44pm
Razork

All of the lights will be on in the house of Raz for caveman hour.

Last year we called our house (the only one lit up in our neighbourhood) “the beacon of hope”!
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March 27, 2009 1:47pm
MyNameIsJack

tell me how in your leftist views and ideals we are going to feed a population mid this century of some 9 Billion peeps?

The same way we do now. Many will starve. many will be malnourished. Many will be well fed. Many will be overfed.

How do you propose we change what has always been Wharfe? Why do you worry about feeding those yet to be born when you care not about thsoe starving today?
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March 27, 2009 1:48pm
getstaffed

Self determination. It’s the only way foward

Lemme get their straight: I’m allowed to determine which non-GM cabbage variety I can grow.. but I can’t determine which light bulb to use.
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March 27, 2009 1:48pm
Razork

Ryder 192 N/O at lunch.

No BB, thats not how many beers he’s had 🙂

Go big fella!!!
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March 27, 2009 1:48pm
greenfly

Regarding ‘Earth Day’ and the big switch-off, seems David Farrar is already doing his bit for the earth. His lights today are, if not completely out, then at least seriously dimmed. 🙂
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March 27, 2009 1:50pm
Ratbiter

Sorry Razork – I meant to hit your +ve karma but I got confused and gave you a thumbs down by mistake.

Excellent news.
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March 27, 2009 1:52pm
getstaffed

Why do you worry about feeding those yet to be born when you care not about thsoe starving today?

MNIJ, a hint: If you’re feeling a little guilty about you own disinterest in the starving then it’s a blundering giveaway to make unsubstantiated allegations of this trait in others.
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March 27, 2009 1:53pm
NOt1tocommentoften

I’ve just seen on stuff a story about four youths who held up numerous Hamilton service stations. They claim that “the group’s crime spree was inspired by the reality television programme Police Ten-7, which explores unsolved cases, giving viewers a behind-the-scenes look at police investigations.”

This is brilliant! While POlice 10-7 does have some legitimit role, other police and emergency service shows are rubbish – get rid of emergency heroes, cops with cameras, etc and replace it with some real T.V. These shows do absolutely nothing for those that watch too much t.v. anyway. Bring in more documentaries and other educational shows…
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March 27, 2009 1:53pm
Madeleine

I cannot get over how many people are leaving comments about MandM’s earth hour protest amongst the entries to win the car! I hope lots of people light up tomorrow.

I just bought a few extra lightbulbs for our earth hour protest tomorrow night as a couple of ours had blown and bless my supermarket, they had real lightbulbs in stock!!
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March 27, 2009 1:54pm
greenfly

getstaffed – you are labouring under a serious misconception! You believe you’re unable to choose from the selection of lightbulbs found throughout the land. Rest assured, misguided friend, you can! Find the courage to try it, just step right up to the shelf and select You’ll be o.k.
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March 27, 2009 1:54pm
stephen

Sorry Razork – I meant to hit your +ve karma but I got confused and gave you a thumbs down by mistake.

Excellent news.

What kind of cricket follower has Kiwiblog open but not cricinfo?
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March 27, 2009 1:57pm
MyNameIsJack

getstaffed (3110) Vote: 0 0 Says:

March 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Why do you worry about feeding those yet to be born when you care not about thsoe starving today?

MNIJ, a hint: If you’re feeling a little guilty about you own disinterest in the starving then it’s a blundering giveaway to make unsubstantiated allegations of this trait in others.

A hint for you, getstuffed_

First, I admit to disinterest in the starving, but I suspect you meant to write uninterest. sad the state of eduucation when you grew up.

Further, I’m not the one wailing about feeding future generations. I amde no comment on my personal opinions or prefferences. Get a clue before stepping in to the ring.

You and muzza make a great pair – remind me a lot of Zig and Zag, except one of them turned out to be a paedophile.

[DPF: But comparing to paedophiles is still 30 demerits]
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March 27, 2009 1:59pm
MyNameIsJack

And where is the comparison? Is your comprehension as incomprehensible as getsuffed’s?.

… remind me a lot of Zig and Zag, except one of them turned out to be a paedophile. is not a comparison, it is a point of difference. Had I left off that qualifier I could then have been accused of comparing one or the other to a paedophile.

[DPF: You still compared him to a paedophile. You just said he himself was not one]
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March 27, 2009 2:03pm
greenfly

MyNameIsJack – you seem to have some kind of fascination for harm and this prompts me to question whether you emboldened the right word in your last post.
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March 27, 2009 2:04pm
MyNameIsJack

greenfly, in the words of the immortal Pauline Hanson – please explain.
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March 27, 2009 2:05pm
greenfly

and risk demerits? Not me 🙂
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March 27, 2009 2:07pm
Nomestradamus

Greenfly:

I hope your solution doesn’t rely on ‘corporate’ farming, cause that’s a cause that’s dead in the water

Care to explain your reasoning?

Is it to do with your general animosity towards corporatism, or do you have a more specific objection to what you describe as “corporate farming”?

Why, for instance, would you have an issue with Clean Seas Tuna Ltd (an ASX-listed company in the aquaculture sector). If you look here, you’ll see that a certain Sir Tipene Gerard O’Regan is a director. Does Sir Tipene know something that you don’t?
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March 27, 2009 2:08pm
Inventory2

Double century for Big Jesse – 201 🙂 – then out next ball 🙁

Black Caps 477 for 6
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March 27, 2009 2:08pm
MyNameIsJack

chicken!

I’ve just been looking at the demerits table and there is no 30, so what is this?

[DPF: The table is a guide. 20 is the standard hit. 10 for low level stuff. 30 – 35 indicates more disruptive stuff. A 50 has to be very very offensive]
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March 27, 2009 2:08pm
greenfly

Razork (the only one lit up in our neighbourhood)

This should tell you something.
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March 27, 2009 2:12pm
Nomestradamus

Careful, MyNameisJack, or that 30 will be beefed up to 35 (the next-closest alternative):

35 points – For blatant trolling, highly inflammatory comments

🙂
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March 27, 2009 2:13pm
greenfly

Nomestradamus – Does Sir Tipene know something that you don’t?

Nah. Back soon to explain.
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March 27, 2009 2:15pm
Razork

greenfly (804) Vote: 0 0 Says:

March 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Razork (the only one lit up in our neighbourhood)

This should tell you something.

It told me plenty.
I was the only one celebrating civilisation.
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March 27, 2009 2:15pm
MyNameIsJack

I thought it might have been 20 for abusive language, as after all, everyone knows Zig and Zag were clowns, and clowns are gay.

But then again, getstaffed and muzza are anything but gay. They don’t seem to have a happy bone in their collective bodies.

Of course, this might get me for being off topic, but what is on topic in a general debate thread?

Abusive language? well, no that cannot be a cause for demerits, just look at the amount of abuse hurled around here by the usual suspects of the right – reddaiter, murray, bigbruv, et al.

No. I’ll take my demerits like a man – but I do wonder how DPF was able to lash out and hit me with demerits withing 30 seconds of the submit button being pressed.
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March 27, 2009 2:19pm
MyNameIsJack

Alfie Patten has at least one thing in common with the man who will be his king – he’s not the father.
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March 27, 2009 2:21pm
MyNameIsJack

A DNA test has proven that the English teenager who thought he’d impregnated his girlfriend at the age of 12 is not the father of the baby.

Alfie Patten, now 13, made international headlines last month when his girlfriend, 15-year-old Chantelle Steadman, gave birth to Maisie Roxanne.

The baby-faced teen insisted he was the only one who had slept with Chantelle and was excited about becoming a dad, promising to take responsibility “like a grown-up father”.

But he took the DNA test after six other teenagers came forward soon after Maisie’s birth to claim they had also had sex with Chantelle.

British newspapers reported today that the test results are through – and Alfie is not the dad.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/dna-test-proves-babyfaced-alfie-not-the-dad-20090327-9d5d.html
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March 27, 2009 2:22pm
MyNameIsJack

I always thought that the last 3 letters in twitter were redundant. Now I know why.

http://current.com/items/89891774/twouble_with_twitters.htm

But as there are twits on the sidebar, I guess i’ve just gained a few more demerits.
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March 27, 2009 2:35pm
Brian Smaller

MNIJ is a complete fuckwit most of the time but his criticisms of the UN voting to make criticism of religion (read ISLAM), is completely justified. This attempt to make Islam protected from any sort of criticism is an abomination we should all oppose. Islam is a political force more than a religious one and as such cannot ever be immune from critique in free societies.

It was couched to make criticsim of any religion a crime but lets be honest, it is nothing but Islamic insecurity.

Just to get things started, they can shove their Moon worshipping death cult as far up Mohammeds jacksy as they can – then make a cartoon if it. In fact, I was thinking of doing an art peace called “Crap Mohammed” a sort of retrospective on the piss-christ exhibit from some years ago. I just need to go have a decent biryani to get some of my materials ready.
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March 27, 2009 2:38pm
greenfly

jack –one

Nomestradamus – I was referring to terrestrial farming, but now that you mention the sea…
I’m addressing the question re. feeding the billions. The model we are following now is failing miserably to ‘feed the world’ and has a raft of other serious downsides(don’t mention the environment,it only upsets hard-core environmentalists like Big Bro).
The name ‘Clean Seas Tuna’ really does set alarm bells ringing with me, aside from the obvious allusion (clean out the seas), just as Blue Sky belies the reality of the dairy farms under that name. Corporate farming is presently alive and seemingly well in NZ, but is fouling it’s own nest and will wilt. The resentment amongst ‘family farmers’ in my district toward the corporates is palpable.
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March 27, 2009 2:45pm
MyNameIsJack

Brian, don’t be misled. This is being pushed by the OIC, but it has support from many other religionists as well as Muslims.

It is nothing more than a 21C attempt to resurrect the long gone blasphemy laws under a new guise.
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March 27, 2009 2:58pm
getstaffed

MNIJ – why are you so uptight? Must have been a tough week. I’m sorry for you. I have no idea why you’d think I’m unhappy. Why, just reading your comments makes me smile (ok, a small lie. More like they make me shake my head in disbelief). So smile a bit yourself, and enjoy this cartoon.
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March 27, 2009 3:03pm
MyNameIsJack

getstaffed, please ask your mother to return my dog. thanks
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March 27, 2009 3:05pm
getstaffed

That was quite funny — The +ve karma was me 🙂
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March 27, 2009 3:07pm
MyNameIsJack

[DPF: You still compared him to a paedophile. You just said he himself was not one]

So saying someone is not a paedophile is comparing someone TOO a paedophile? George Orwell would be very proud of you.
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March 27, 2009 3:08pm
big bruv

Razork

“I was the only one celebrating civilisation.”

Civilisation is not how one would generally describe Christchurch but I do get your point.
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