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Paulus Gnome

Can anyone here confirm the WO blog ‘Our buffoon bouffant wrote an “open letter” to Mr Trump’?

If this open letter penned by the bow tied bouffanted buffoon to the POTUS is for real, it has to be the longest resignation letter from any member of parliament ever.

It has to be read to be believed.

This disgrace of a man who is a New Zealand member of parliament leads me to think he has got sticky fingers with Vance.

As a New Zealander, I am cringing with embarrassment; if this letter is true, Dunne is a national disgrace and needs to resign before (I believe) Bill English steps in and demotes him to unemployed.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/01/buffoon-bouffant-wrote-open-letter-mr-trump/#more-293506
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January 27, 2017 8:03am
- holysheet
  
  The liabore whore really has lost the plot. His hypocricy really sets the record for being such a dork. I too, hope the Prime minister gets rid of the prick.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:09am
- Manolo
  
  Unfortunately, it is all true.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:10am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    It is a fucking disgrace and a disaster, the man is a complete dork and I shall write to the aforementioned dick and tell him so.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:15am
- Andrei
  
  Here it is from the horses mouth
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1701/S00086/dunne-speaks-congratulations-mr-president.htm
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:13am
- Dave Mann
  
  He can’t be sacked because he is an elected MP who pretends to ‘lead a political party’. The only real way to get rid of this cunt would be for National to stand a credible candidate against him. So far this hasn’t happened. Why? He is universally known as being a useless political whore who has contributed almost nothing to the country for 30+ years…. so why is he allowed to keep feeding at the trough?
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:26am
  - Kimbo
    
    MMP
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:05am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Because our ridiculous voting system effectively gives National an extra MP if they don’t run a real candidate against him.
    
    I live in that electorate and have held my nose and voted for the Labour candidate twice now. There’s a decent chance this time we can get him out.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:05am
    - peterwn
      
      Like to name a ‘real’ candidate who could take the seat off Mr Dunne at present? The chosen National candidate for Ohariu would dearly love to trounce Mr Dunne but has to face reality and instead has to work on the party vote as he has done for the past three years. It is the party vote what really counts. Can you name someone who could do better?
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:47am
      - Manolo
        
        I would choose the National candidate, a current list MP, over Dunne any time, any day. Far superior to the whorish minister.
        
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        January 27, 2017 9:59am
      - Dave Mann
        
        Sorry I ‘reported’ you accidentally. The report feature should have an ‘are you sure?’ dialogue box to avoid errors.
        
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        January 27, 2017 5:01pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    This rambling essay to Trump was long thought out, it wasn’t a brain fart by Dunne.
    Dunne lives and breathes politics and from his arrogant pontificating expects standards to be maintained… And then without passing it by BE or the diplomatic service, sends a vitriolic message from a small friendly nation to the new democratically elected President of the USA!!
    
    Bill, get rid of him.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:22am
    - PhilBest
      
      Not Bill’s job, it’s the Ohariu voters job, unfortunately. Or if the rest of NZ would give National a proper majority…
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:32am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Aware Bill can’t get rid but he can strip him of his cabinet post. Judith lost her cabinet post for much less than a possible diplomatic incident caused by a self-righteous know it all.
        
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        January 27, 2017 10:37am
    - Kimbo
      
      Three things.
      
      1. Dunne was writing in his capacity as an MP, not as a Minister, so it is nothing to do with the Government, even though Dunne is a cabinet minister. Is part of the reform of the cabinet manual Helen Clark arranged, that allowed Winston Peters to become Minister of Foreign Affairs and remain publicly opposed to the existing immigration policy.
      
      2. The letter may have been addressed to Trump, but it was for internal NZ consumption only. Of course Donald Trump is too busy to read it, let alone care…unless he wants to respond in a way that boosts his profile with his constituency.
      
      3. Even though Dunne is indeed a buffoon, including on this issue, nonetheless, he is one of our elected buffoons, and he has a mandate to speak his mind. And we the voters now have a means to judge him accordingly. That’s what democracy is about. Or are we now so scared shitless as a nation of American economic reprisals and the “wrath of Trump” that we have to walk on egg shells?! Bugger that. I thought we had more guts and pride.
      
      We’ve negotiated in good faith for years for TPPA, we still believe in the benefits of free trade. So the current US administration believes (incorrectly, IMHO, and in the opinion of our government) in a different course? OK, good luck to ’em. Let’s see how that works out. In the meantime, we should not alter our policy, or our disposition because the temporary inhabitant of the White House wants us to dance to his tune, and his tune aolne.
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:40am
      - Kimbo
        
        No thanks, mate. As a free trading nation, we’ve worked hard for over 30 years to ensure we have plenty more options. Not so sure that’s going to be the case for Detroit, but let’s see how that works out, and if the American consumer is prepared to pay the price.
        
        Dunne may have been a moron grand-standing to the NZ public, and over-simplistic with our history, particularly Muldoon’s alleged economic incompetence (is a common failing of those who came after justifying their decision to reform in the way and breakneck speed they did).
        
        Nonetheless, Dunne is not wrong for seeking to shore up our collective national resolve to stick to our policies. We do not have to cave in to the biggest kid on the block’s demands to do it his way or the highway. Indeed, that would not e in our interests…at all.
        
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        January 27, 2017 9:46am
- Chuck Bird
  
  I very much doubt if that letter would be placed in front of Trump. It will be filed along with other comments from Labour and Green MPs for future use if needed.
  
  Does he think anyone who reads the letter will bother looking up anything about Muldoon or Pike River. The letter is rambling.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:03am
  - Simon
    
    Dunne carries out character smear of Trump. Standard left wing. Dunne is just dripping with lies. Wont work with Trump.
    
    Of course Dunne is just virtue signalling. Sad fuck.
    
    But the tards in NZ just like the US haven’t woken up yet. It is a new game. The smears wont work and Trump will just get on with it.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:12am
- Biscuit
  
  It’s Election Year.
  
  Poor wee Peter is trying to persuade his famous worm to track upwards earlier than usual…
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:31am
  - pdm
    
    Is that the worm in his shorts? lol.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:54am
    - Biscuit
      
      Evil, pdm, but delightful!
      
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      January 27, 2017 10:10am
- peterwn
  
  The letter would effectively be ignored – the White House would receive heaps of letters from politicians around the world. The only letter from NZ likely to be shown to Donald Trump would be one from Bill English and even then would be well down the list for attention.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:52am
- BeeSting
  
  Peter aint Dunn Nuffin
  
  Sit down shut up and think about FFF n off
  
  Move over scum bags where taking over
  
  YOU ARE OUT
  
  YOU ARE FIRED
  
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  January 28, 2017 12:07am
BarryB

More good news for Globalisation……….

I hear that a shipment of approx 5000 (5300 I think) dairy cows are about to be exported to China.
This is even better news than it first sounds because they are breeding cows and this means that china will soon have 10,000 milking cows (well 5000 cows and 5000 calves) and a year after that there will be 20,000 of them and so on.
This is good for NZ because that means that we wont have to sell them our milk. . . . .

Hang on – this doesnt sound quite right ….. Dont we regard selling milk (or its derivatives) to china as good for us.
Shit – if we sell the chinese the cows then we will have to send the milk we dont sell to china to places like Bolivia in the form of government aid – where pallets of milk powder will rot in warehouses because the distributors (who get the stuff for free) wont let it go unless they get a backhander.

Maybe we really shouldnt send cows to China. Maybe globalisation isnt really working for us.
But Fonterra said only yesterday that their investment in china was really very good – where fonterra showed them how to farm cows
and produce their own milk.

We really do have some idiots running this country and some of its commercial organisations.

Ive just been watching Trump speak to the Republican conferance in Philadelphia. The world need more people like him – kicking the shit out of the old political systems. Yes sure he will screw up on a few things, but we have to get rid of a lot of the old long standing conventions that have been in force in the political system.
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January 27, 2017 8:04am
- mikenmild
  
  You really don’t get how globalisation works, do you?
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:08am
  - dime
    
    or maybe he does and thats the problem.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:16am
  - ross411
    
    What do you mean?
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:06am
  - Kimbo
    
    Reminds me of the cries of “wtf!” when we started exporting Kiwifruit vines to places like Italy in the early 1980s. “Killing the goose that laid the golden eggs/Treasonous giving away of our monopoly for short term gain!” according to the arm chair experts.
    
    Turned out that when kiwifruit was available in supermarkets in North America and Europe throughout all the year, and not just in the seasons when New Zealand could provide them, that the world demand for Kiwifruit grew. Indeed, it went from it being a rare and exotic fruit to a staple…and as the market was bigger, we sold a hell of lot more.
    
    We could likely do the same to the North American lamb market if they allowed us to go into partnership, and we shared our expertise with their sheep farmers in Montana. Lamb in the US is a boutique item compared to beef. But so far, no, they are still on the “protectionist” course. Or at least they were last time I heard.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:13am
    - Random T Person
      
      Ah, someone who understands ‘trade’ and the concept of growing a market. Good stuff Mr Kimbo.
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:20am
- Gabby
  
  Not to worry, it’s the Arab lamb killer mate of Munter McMutton who’s transporting them.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:10am
- KiwiGreg
  
  China is already an enormous producer of milk. It’s not lack of cows holding them back, it’s more issues of water and location (most of the cows are in the North and most of the people are in the South).
  
  By the way “we” don’t own the cows nor did “we” export them.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:11am
  - BarryB
    
    But the Arab prince has to get NZ Governemnt approval to export them.
    “We” do control the export – if “we” want to.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:17am
  - Random T Person
    
    Absolutely. If Farmer Joe wants to sell his cows, that is HIS prerogative.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:20am
  - waikatogirl
    
    NZ has been sending cows to China for years. ?
    
    The cows have integrated well and no longer feel like new immigrants. The new generation calves understand Chinese language and with the Chinese masters being well schooled in the NZ dairy systems milk production is rising considerably. China will soon no longer need to import milk from our old nation across the sea from NZ. //
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:37am
- Andrei
  
  The biggest dairy farm in the world is in China – it has over 100,000 milking cows and is on the China/ Russia border
  
  The cows are grain fed with Russian corn
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:17am
  - Gabby
    
    They can be milked at night because they glow in the dark.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:35am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      That is actually quite funny Gabby considering Welsh lamb was said to glow in the dark after Chernobyl.
      
      Keep up the good work and you may progress from a complete moron to a just a moron but with reference other of your comments here this morning, things are not looking too good
      
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      January 27, 2017 10:25am
      - Gabby
        
        I’m aiming for Puller Goon, which is way beyond moron.
        
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        January 27, 2017 1:47pm
  - Inandout
    
    They are fed more than grain apparently-
    
    http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4eb957b76bb3f7d9210000a0-506-253/these-chinese-beef-cattle-graze-in-a-garbage-dump.jpg
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:31am
  - PhilBest
    
    That is an important point. A massive proportion of the world’s dairying is done locally, and consumed locally. Global trade is small by comparison, and NZ just happens to be a very small nation which actually exports most of its production. We are quite unusual in this.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:35am
    - holysheet
      
      Yes and after the melamine scare years ago, the Chinese mothers want security of quality supply.
      Thats the reason they buy from NZ.
      
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      January 27, 2017 10:48am
      - KevinH
        
        Exactly.Food security and quality is an ongoing problem for China.
        
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        January 27, 2017 11:36am
  - Dave Mann
    
    That’s interesting to know. Thanks.
    
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    January 27, 2017 5:04pm
- Komata
  
  BarryB
  
  Re: ‘… Where fonterra showed them how to farm cows and produce their own milk’.
  
  ‘Showing them how to produce their own milk? And to undercut us as a direct result (and with local cunning, to probably dilute it to within an inch of its life)?????
  
  AAAAAAAGH!
  
  Not again!! New Zealand (and the directors of organisations such as Fonterra) has this incredibly stupid habit of giving away its expertise to its direct competitors. We did it with kiwi fruit, we did it with apples and now we are doing it with cows; giving those who are in direct competition with us on bot the local and international markets, all the knowledge they need to profit at our expense; and yet, for totally unknown reasons no-one ‘at the top’ seems to realise the shear folly of these actions.
  
  Generosity is all very well, but at what point does it become arrant stupidity?
  
  Can someone please explain why this should be the case?
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:48am
  - ross411
    
    Note that fruit isn’t necessarily a good example, as popular American fruit varieties are also grown here to provide fruit for the American market during their off-season (given the opposition of their winter and our summer).
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:08am
- VicParking
  
  Just like when we sent Kiwi Fruit plants all over the world and then moaned and nashed our teeth when we were undercut on price when the orachards they went to came into production.
  The same will occur when we start exporting Manuka plants, which I have been told is in the wind.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:07am
  - rangitoto
    
    Going by Kiwi Fruit orchard prices in the Bay of Plenty they can’t be doing too badly.
    
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    January 27, 2017 11:43am
- rangitoto
  
  Hard to believe but you might find that cows can be obtained from sources other than New Zealand.
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:42am
Nukuleka

Three cheers for a political leader who does what he says he is going to do. Like him or loathe him Trump is doing exactly what he promised electors he would do during the campaign and he is doing it fast. Go Trump.
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January 27, 2017 8:04am
- G152
  
  The wall works.
  Evidently its keeping one Mexican in Mexico
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:21am
- ross411
  
  I like what Scott Adams says about this, that there’s so many things the haters don’t like being done so fast, they can’t all agree on what to collectively hate about and can’t hate about it all without sounding like whiners.
  
  What a different world we would live in, if Obama had come straight into office and started implementing his campaign promises. Instead it’s all about the hope when he comes into office, and his missus salts the earth with wailing and gnashing of teeth that hope is dead just before he left office.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:10am
  - fernglas
    
    Implementing the promises is where he will hit a snag. It’s one thing to sign a piece of paper directing the wall to be built, another to get Congress to vote the money to make it possible. Even a Republican dominated House won’t guarantee the funds for everything he wants.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:22am
    - ross411
      
      No argument here. I look forward to seeing how it goes. But still, Obama didn’t even commit to signing paper for his promises..
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:37am
      - fernglas
        
        Here’s where the money will come from:
        ” President Trump plans to make Mexico pay for his border wall by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports into the United States from Mexico, raising billions of dollars that would cover the cost of the new barrier.”
        
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        January 27, 2017 10:10am
      - holysheet
        
        The problem with this ferglas, is the American consumer is paying that tax, not Mexico.
        
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        January 27, 2017 10:50am
      - Ross12
        
        fernglas
        
        That 20% is just a “throw away” comment/figure at the start of the negotiation. It is there to get the MSM and Mexico agitated.
        
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        January 27, 2017 3:45pm
  - PhilBest
    
    I think Roger Douglas said something similar back in his day: your political opponents will make just as much fuss and noise whatever you do, whether timid reforms or broad-scale ones. Therefore if you believe in what you are doing, the broad-scale ones are what stands a chance of proving effective in time for the next election. The timid ones, less likely.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:38am
Tookinator

Here is my TV interview on the topic:
‘Should NZ change to an ‘opt out’ organ donor system?
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/video-should-new-zealands-donor-system-opt-rather-than-in
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January 27, 2017 8:06am
- ross411
  
  People still watch Breakfast? Ugh. News actors putting across their opinion as fact.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:12am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Yes except for the opt out part. Potential to save a life should always come ahead of the wishes of dead people or their relatives – screw their superstitious nonsense.
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:59pm
Manolo

Image the outrage if this would have been said about President Obama.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/german-newspaper-editor-assassination-easiest-way-to-end-trump-catastrophe-video/

Josef Joffe, the editor-publisher of German weekly Die Zeit, suggests the easiest way to end the “Trump catastrophe” is to murder the president in the White House.
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January 27, 2017 8:09am
- holysheet
  
  I would venture to suggest that there is likely to be some deranged group of snowflakes out there who are actively potting to do exactly this.
  Snowflakes only do democracy if they win.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:13am
  - PhilBest
    
    Obama has made it through two terms without some crazed KKK nutter trying to assassinate him.
    
    I think that contrary to myth, it is the left where the worst hate and violence is to be found, and most likely to throw up assassination attempts. For a start, where were the violent protests when O was elected, seeing that there is alleged to be so much “hate” on the right? And where were the celebrities and talking heads “on the right” fantacizing openly about a possible violent demise for O?
    
    All part of the left’s systematized hypocrisy, including the MSM purveyors and fake news.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:22am
    - holysheet
      
      It’s different when you get the lefty snowflakes in meltdown. They have no other avenue of protest. How many have left like they said they would do, if Trump was elected?
      
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      January 27, 2017 8:27am
      - Komata
        
        Absolutely none; they were ‘Only Joking’. The funny thing though, when they made the statements, they certainly looked as if a ‘joke’ was the last thing on their minds…
        
        To such people it appears that words are both free and cheap.
        
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        January 27, 2017 8:55am
    - cmm
      
      Well of course….
      
      Right don’t go into riot mode like the left do.
      Right don’t go about smashing people’s lives.
      
      Sure there might be the odd Dylan Roof style nutcase, but they are atypical.
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:10am
      - PhilBest
        
        Yeah, anyone having hallucinations and voices in the head, can hardly be said to actually represent a political ideology one way or the other with their actions.
        
        The big problem in the USA with these nutters doing gun massacres, is not so much lack of gun control, as far too much civil liberties for nutters. I recall some stats that showed that the US involuntarily incarcerates nutters at a rate something like 95% lower than most of Europe.
        
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        January 27, 2017 9:43am
  - cmm
    
    “I would venture to suggest that there is likely to be some deranged group of snowflake”
    
    Yeah except they go all PTSD if they just see a firearm.
    
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201
    
    “It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon….
    …
    But mostly, I was just terrified.
    …
    The recoil bruised my shoulder,”
    
    Dude it was a 223. They paint these things pink.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:18am
- Gabby
  
  You’re not familiar with ex reblubbiblub rep talkback scum Joe Walsh then.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:19am
- mandk
  
  I don’t think the numpties who talking about killing Trump have actually worked out that they would end up with a conservative Christian as POTUS instead.
  
  (Not that I’m complaining about the idea of having a conservative Chrisitian for POTUS)
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:24am
  - waikatogirl
    
    There’s conservative and then there is Mike Pence…
    
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    January 27, 2017 10:44am
- Inandout
  
  The Germans have a history of eliminating people they don’t like.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:35am
Huevon

Peña Nieto says Mexicans don’t believe in walls. Pura mierda!

Spend 5 minutes in Latin America and what do find everywhere? Walls, walls and more walls. Trump is treating Mexico the same way elite white Latinos like Peña Nieto treat their own people!
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January 27, 2017 8:14am
- EAD
  
  you don’t get it:
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/01/21/mexico-deports-91-cuban-migrants-without-papers-obama-closed-doors/
  
  It’s only bad when white countries deport aliens….
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:18am
  - Komata
    
    EAD: Naughty lad; you’re not supposed to notice such things. Beware; the Dems and Snowflakes will come and visit; you’ve upset their narrative.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:57am
- rangitoto
  
  Breitbart are claiming a drug cartel is a big financier of Nieto’s political campaigns. No surprise he wouldn’t want the wall.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:21am
BarryB

Shit – he really means it. Trump has today fired the entire senior level of the U.S. State Department. I dont know how many that is – but hes not going to be pissed around.
I would be very careful if I worked for the EPA – who he put a media block on a couple of days ago.

Do it my way or its the highway……
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January 27, 2017 8:15am
- holysheet
  
  It’s called draining the putrid swamp that is the washington elites.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:18am
- dime
  
  did he fire them or did they leave in protest?
  
  either way – BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:18am
  - ross411
    
    It has to be said Dime, we have no idea at this point why they left. From a anti-Trump perspective these people clearly took a stand. From a pro-Trump perspective, it fits with all the standing behind his words and promises that he is vigourously doing.
    
    The interpretations people are making constantly on Trump’s actions or perceived actions are revealing.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:25am
  - cmm
    
    When you feed the pigs they will squeal, but won’t walk away from the trough.
    
    Same with these government troughers. They make the noises but they don’t go on hunger strike.
    
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    January 27, 2017 10:02am
- Manolo
  
  Out with the Clintonists:
  http://nypost.com/2017/01/26/senior-staff-resigns-en-masse-from-state-department/
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:21am
  - holysheet
    
    “Department expertise in security, management, administrative and consular positions in particular are very difficult to replicate and particularly difficult to find in the private sector.”
    
    What an arrogant thing to say. The private sector has been doing deals every day with faster and better results than any PC public servant could ever hope or want to achieve.
    When you are paying the bills you want the quickest and best outcome. Not stop every 2 hours and have a cuppa.
    These snowflake have got to learn that its a new way now. Learn to conform fast or fuck off.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:35am
    - PhilBest
      
      Exactly, one of the most efficient civil services in the world is Singapore’s, where they deliberately only hire people on short contracts, with prior private sector experience, so the whole attitude is one of private-sector people and there is no idea of bureaucratic empire-building. Lee Kuan Yew was a genius, he personally thought of this.
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:46am
      - holysheet
        
        I must be a genius as well then??
        
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        January 27, 2017 10:16am
  - Komata
    
    They probably ‘feel’ that by resigning en mass they will do Mr. President immense harm since ‘he cannot replace them all and DEFINITELY cannot do without them’.
    
    Evidently, they are not familiar with the ‘bucket of water’ theory or that ‘no-one is indespensable’.
    
    Not quite in the narrative is it…?
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:01am
- 3-coil
  
  BarryB (8:15am) – some RNZ bimbo is reporting this morning that Trump has got rid of “150 years of institutional memory” by firing these State Dept officials!
  
  Does this mean: 10 officials with 15yrs experience, or 15 officials with 10yrs experience….or just that RNZ are totally stupid??
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:55am
  - Komata
    
    3-coil
    
    Re: ‘…Tthat RNZ are totally stupid??’
    
    Not ‘stupid’; they are merely part of the problem, holdthe same views and operate in the same way as 99% of their overseas compatriots.
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:03am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      monkey see, monkey do . . . . .
      
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      January 27, 2017 10:32am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Indeed; and it’s highly likely they’ve all read Clare Curran’s paper on Framing the Debate, where the Labour MP said among other things:
      
      If you control the language, you control the message. The media doesn’t control the message, they run with it.
      
      Translated into ordinary language, that means if Labour can repeat its message often enough it will become the truth, even if it isn’t the truth; think “child poverty” or “housing crisis”. And then the media will run your lines for you.
      
      Fortunately for most of us however, the voter sees this for what it is; political game-playing.
      
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      January 27, 2017 2:56pm
- cmm
  
  An school mate of mine is now working in the EPA on one of those Obama lolly scramble programs that hands out big money to people doing pretty pointless green research. Three weeks ago he said to me he’s got is cardboard box ready in the office and he was already job hunting knowing his program would be cut.
  
  He’s a bright boy and it was sad to see him wasting his talents handing out lollies. Hopefully he’ll get plugged back into the free market as he was before he got lured by the siren call of a working for Obama’s EPA. Before this job e has already done huge things to increase the efficiency of trucks etc. He’s only in his 50s and will surely do more great things.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:00am
- Fletch
  
  They were fired.
  
  http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/top-state-department-officials-asked-to-leave-by-trump-administration/index.html
  
  Good riddance. As a blogger from Red State put it –
  
  There is no part of the federal government, in my lifetime, that has done more damage to the safety and security of America than the US State Department. It has never met a dictator it wouldn’t suck up to, an enemy it wouldn’t appease, or an ally it wouldn’t cheerfully f*** over. It’s treatment of Israel would make anyone wonder if anti-Semitism was a requirement of working in Foggy Bottom. It is difficult to look at a single point over the past 5 presidencies and find yourself saying, “gee, State really saved our bacon on this one.”
  
  Recently, State has been in thrall of the Clinton’s. According to State, Hillary’s personal email was fine, her abuse of security procedures without flaw. They lied to Congress for here about Benghazi. They broke the law by abusing FOIA regulations to cover Clinton’s fat and slovenly tracks.
  
  http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/01/26/breaking.-entire-senior-staff-state-department-walks/
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:22am
Manolo

Our missing Muslim apologist (on a forced exile) could not have said it any better.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/26/nyt-editorial-board-horrified-that-trump-wants-to-end-radical-islamic-terrorism/

The New York Times’ editorial board took a stand Thursday against President Donald Trump’s vow to eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth.

It found several problems with Trump’s approach, including his use of the term “radical Islam,” which the editors say is “demonizing and alienating the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims,” the fact that he is reportedly considering designating the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, and the fact that he doesn’t plan on closing Guantanamo Bay (which Obama was unable to do despite vowing to close the prison on day one of his administration).
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January 27, 2017 8:17am
- holysheet
  
  The only way to get rid of a cancer is to cut it out. Islam and its followers are a cancer on the rest of us. Its needs eradicating asap. Trump is only doing what the American public voted him into office to do. They were warned before hand. Now the action has started.
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:22am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  What if it was changed to moderate Islam terrorism, you know the kind we had pre 911?
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:29am
  - Gabby
    
    Stick to killing Russians and you’ll be right as rain.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:38am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      I used to think that but then I realized it’s easier to fight the holly Jihad with my Hrum rather than the AK.
      Why do you think I have 7 wives, including Lindsey Lohan.
      
      Think about it.
      
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      January 27, 2017 8:46am
      - kowtow
        
        Padriv
        
        As salamu alaykum.
        Looks like those sharia courts are spreading fast, praised be to Allah .
        
        “A Syrian refugee convicted of tying a ten-year-old boy to a bed and threatening to whip him has walked free from court after fresh charges against him floundered.
        Fahd Hussein Al Shrayteh, 40, who arrived in Scotland in January 2016 with the first group of Syrians escaping the war in his homeland, was on trial for alleged assaults on the same child from October and November last year”
        
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4159216/Syrian-refugee-40-tied-boy-ten-bed-walks-free.html
        
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        January 27, 2017 9:01am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        You can’t fight the wisdom that is contained in the pages of the Holly Quran my brother.
        
        The sooner the west realizes this, the easier it will be for everyone.
        
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        January 27, 2017 9:18am
  - holysheet
    
    Sorry but the answer is no. It’s a bit like the doctor saying we got most of the cancer but over time it will come back. Better to get it all once while we can.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:38am
    - Padriv Ustoev
      
      Aaawww… come on…. just a little bit of terrorism? Just the tip? Everyone is doing it these days.
      
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      January 27, 2017 9:00am
Hugh Pavletich

‘Denials of a housing crisis are now simply lies’ | Radio New Zealand News

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/323140/'denials-of-a-housing-crisis-are-now-simply-lies‘

Opinion – Every government policy to make housing affordable since the early 1990s has been a failure, and it’s time the political classes actually delivered on their responsibilities, writes Shamubeel Eaqub. … read more via hyperlink above …

Sorry, Barnaby, but moving to Tamworth isn’t the solution for home ownership … The Age …

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/sorry-barnaby-but-moving-to-tamworth-isnt-the-solution-for-home-ownership-20170126-gtyy55.html

When asked this week about the housing affordability problem in Australian cities that is effectively locking two generations of Australians out of the urban housing market, Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce offered up a simple solution: “People have just got to realise that houses are much cheaper in Tamworth,” he said, before suggesting that if people want an affordable house with a “view of the Opera House – well, it’s just not gonna happen.” … read more via htperlink above …

Planning, costs the housing problem on city fringes … The Australian

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/planning-costs-the-housing-problem-on-city-fringes/news-story/5f6a4c8b2ef8f99549bd764699307926

The politics of hot housing prices … The Australian … (behind paywall)
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January 27, 2017 8:23am
- rangitoto
  
  “Eaqub.” ?
  
  Isn’t he the guy who was telling us a few years ago how we would all be better off renting.?
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:30am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    To be honest he had a point. He explained it well in an interview and he basically pointed out that at the high end of the market you get much more for your money if you rent rather than buy the house.
    He was saying that you can live in 2 million dollar house but pay the equivalent of a million dollar mortgage in rent.
    At the low end makes little difference.
    
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    January 27, 2017 8:41am
Happychappy

How gullible and deluded is the political ex leader and trouble maker from the left Laila Harre when she says in this latest interview that if Dot Coms lawyers had not shut it down the E mail in the moment of truth would have been authenticated. The NZ voter should be very wary of Labour if they do let this politician for hire ever stand as a candidate for their Party.
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January 27, 2017 8:34am
Manolo

The Mexican peso takes a hit:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/26/peso-crushed-after-mexican-president-cancels-meeting-in-twitter-spat.html

Mexico’s peso lost about a percent against the U.S. dollar after Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto canceled a meeting with President Donald Trump, in a dispute over the Trump’s border wall.
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January 27, 2017 8:42am
Maggy Wassilieff

Well, I blame both the Republicans and the Democrats for this outcome.

Both parties should have had a decent succession strategy organised years ahead.

Important things are sorted down at the KKK:
when Mabel pops her clogs, we’ve got young Maia lined up for pikelet-making duty.

The Labour Party should take note.
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January 27, 2017 9:07am
Lucia Maria

From the Moscow Times – Police Arrest Alleged U.S. Spy Working in Heart of Russian Cybersecurity

A top cybersecurity specialist in Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) was arrested on Wednesday reportedly on suspicion of leaking information to the U.S. intelligence community — a bombshell accusation that, if true, would mean Washington had a spy in the heart of Russia’s national defense infrastructure.

According to the independent newspaper Novaya Gazeta, the FSB believes Sergei Mikhailov tipped off U.S. officials to information about Vladimir Fomenko and his server rental company “King Servers,” which the American cybersecurity company ThreatConnect identified last September as “an information nexus” that was used by hackers suspected of working for Russian state security in cyberattacks.

One of John Schindler’s comments about the arrest of the spy:

Trump enters WH, FSB immediately rolls up alleged moles who told IC about Kremlin interference in US 2016 election.

Mmmmmmkay….

And just in The ‘U.S. Spy’ Just Arrested in Russia Is Allegedly an Infamous Hacker, Too
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January 27, 2017 9:18am
Stars And Stripes

The frustration is starting to show over at WO that the rest of the country has moved on over resolution 2334 when you have to start publishing a boot licking self congratulatory piece which is apparently a “Guest Post”.

“So, my attitude has turned completely, mostly thanks to the power of WO and its influence. These articles presented were factual and reasoned, and caused me to change my views, not through emotions, but through facts.
Never underestimate the power of good journalism. It is just a pity we don’t see more of it in the world.”
Keep it up Whale Oil.
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/01/the-power-of-influence/
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January 27, 2017 9:21am
- ross411
  
  I don’t understand what you are saying 😯
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:30am
- Paulus
  
  WO has become a bore on this.
  He started alright but has now become his crusade to the detriment of all Hager’s prognostications.
  He tinks that the blog world revolves around him – it doesn’t, including Craig.
  WO needs to get over his tantrums.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:41am
- SPC
  
  The polls show no loss of support for National since the UNSC Resolution.
  
  I suppose this sort of “guest post” is supposed to show some sponsor that the WO lobbyist is effective all the same.
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:05am
Captain Mainwaring

The knob on Newstalk ZB is pontificating about how Labour could storm back into power if Comrade Klark took over the reins again.
Angry is trying to hose it down by saying she ‘has bigger fish to fry’.
For the good of the country let’s hope she does and Angry is left in place.
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January 27, 2017 9:30am
- ross411
  
  When you’re a pig and your trough is multi-national, do you cut your access to it off, and voluntarily choose to only wallow in the tiny small country sized trough? I doubt it.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:40am
- holysheet
  
  Hullen might be that pissed at missing out on the top UN job, she might rather be a big fish in a small pond than a minnow in a big ocean. Her ego knows no bounds. And the liberals on here call Trump a narcissist.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:42am
- Manolo
  
  As much as we dislike it, the possibility of comrade Hulun coming back as Labour candidate cannot be ruled out.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:48am
- Paulus
  
  See the comments on her report card which has been released.
  Not good – did she leave or was she pushed – looks like the latter.
  Angry will be pleased to see her back, like her “husband”.
  She can up the rents on her many houses in Auckland to increase her NZ Super pension.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:44am
  - SPC
    
    The UNDF was a nightmare job, the UN slashed funding from 1.5M to .6M while she was there.
    
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    January 27, 2017 11:06am
    - SPC
      
      1.5B to .6B … still not much for economic development investment.
      
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      January 27, 2017 11:42am
    - rangitoto
      
      The UN is a nightmare.
      
      Fixed.
      
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      January 27, 2017 12:14pm
  - Ross12
    
    Paulus
    
    I haven’t seen the report card you refer to, but if it is recent then that would be the second bad one. There was big investigation of the part of the UN she headed a few years ago and it was not favourable.
    ( but to be fair I think that report looked at time before she arrived as well)
    
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    January 27, 2017 3:50pm
- waikatogirl
  
  So Clark was effectively made redundant when the UN decided to go in a different direction.
  Bet that was a punch in the guts for her.
  
  Please, please, please stay out of NZ Hulun.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:58am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/88816776/doomsday-clock-advances-again–its-two-and-a-half-minutes-to-midnight

This is not science. These are not scientists.

When they do shit like this they are pure activists.
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January 27, 2017 9:32am
Biscuit

Great sub-editing by the Horrid today:

‘Flight Check: New Dehli to Singapore
Mark Garrison flies aboard Singapore Airlines from New Delhi to Singapore.’

Me chuckled…
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January 27, 2017 9:32am
reid2

EAD gave me this last night and asked for my thoughts:

http://thermidormag.com/the-liberty-of-the-slaves/

There are none so blind as those who will not see, is my main observation. This prevents people from looking at the walls because they don’t want to recognise their enslavement. And who can blame them. So would I, so did I used to till about twenty years ago when I worked out that reality wasn’t gelling with what it should be were the bollocks about it I’d been fed since birth to be true. According to that, the reality I saw round me would result in a gradual improvement whereas all round me all I saw in all areas were gradual degradation of all kinds.

The main thing people don’t realise is that the people you EAD and I talk about have been around practising their art for centuries. They didn’t just make a start on it after WWII. And the techniques they use reflect their practice.

One of the things they capitalise heavily on is silence. The way for instance the media rarely talk Rothschild and on the rare occasions they do it’s just a mention of an isolated business transaction meaning nothing. You and I know who that family is and what they do but the people don’t because they never hear about therefore don’t think they’re important for if they were, then they would hear about them, given they live in a free democracy with a free media. Then of course when they do talk about something they use all the propaganda techniques to slant it to the way they want. Another thing they do is fill the airtime with meaningless trivia while the big stuff quietly happens like ships passing in the night.

The media is their critical weapon, they can’t do it without that.

If people are looking for a tell on this then explain why the trends that drive the West like gay marriage only drive in the West and not elsewhere. It’s because things like that, contrary to most people’s assumption, are not arising spontaneously from the grassroots but are media-driven propaganda campaigns. Why do you think that subject went from zero to coverage across the entire Western world within a couple of years? Is it more likely that in the entire history of Western intellectual thought, nothing like that had ever occurred to our great minds of the past? Or is it more likely that someone somewhere decided the time was right for another slice of the elephant and picked up the telephone and spoke to someone?

That’s what prevents people from seeing what you and I know – they can’t work out how it could work therefore to them, it doesn’t exist because it can’t. (To people who are wondering, it doesn’t work like I just said, that was just an illustration.)

I imagine the Tavistock analysts are quite busy at the moment working out how to counter the awakening represented first by Brexit then Trump soon to be France and after that Germany. It’s going to be interesting to watch. I suspect EAD the fake news meme is a test balloon to establish how embedded this awakening is. The real response will come later. Unless the awakening has other ideas.

It’s a shame but as I said last night, you can show people the truth but you can’t make them see it. The significance to me of that red-blue pill Matrix scene was not which pill would I take, but the fact that there is a choice to make. Once people wake up to the fact there is a genuine choice, that it’s not just make believe bullshit and the real world is over here, the actual choice becomes a no-brainer, the journey begins. And that’s the obstacle that people like us need to help others remove.

You need about 10% of a population to embed a way of thinking like this awakening. Once 10% of us get to where and I are at, it spreads like wildfire. But Tavistock of course knows precisely what the current figure is down to a thousandth of a percent, and they ain’t going to let it get anywhere close to that.

If people want an example of what I said above about truth vs how its presented to us, then one place is Oliver Stone’s brilliant 20 part doco series on the history of the US:

https://vimeo.com/136182100
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January 27, 2017 9:42am
- Lucia Maria
  
  I read it too. My impression is that it is a post-Christian cry of the modern pagan man who sees no hope beyond trying to force something or other on the world. It offers no solutions.
  
  Edited to add: Don’t watch Oliver Stone’s videos. He’s an anti-American propagandist. My oldest son was subjected to this series in high school history and kept talking to me about all the crap Stone tried to get his viewers to believe.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:11am
  - Kimbo
    
    Oliver Stone and American history?
    
    “…the second gunman behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll…” 😉
    
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    January 27, 2017 10:22am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  I agree.
  
  But I have given up fighting the system to be honest.
  I don’t think the awakening will amount to anything.
  
  I don’t see anything short of an asteroid strike fixing the status quo
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:55am
  - reid2
    
    The media stranglehold is breaking. Trump will do to the US MSM what he’s started doing to the electoral system with this corruption enquiry.
    
    He’s going to, I understand, require CNN to be put on the block in return for approving the Time-Warner deal, and when he does, one of his billionaire mates is going to put a consortium together and buy it.
    
    Of course Trump has an agenda too and as always, it’s nothing like what I suspect most people think it is, if they have any opinion at all on that.
    
    If anyone wants a lead toward exploring what Trump’s real agenda is, then it’s connected to the recent resignation of this guy, both in terms of who he is and who ordered it and most importantly, why he ordered it. The reason given in the article is a smokescreen.
    
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    January 27, 2017 11:55am
- EAD
  
  Thanks for your considered response Reid, I especially enjoyed the below turn of phrase:
  
  And who can blame them. So would I, so did I used to till about twenty years ago when I worked out that reality wasn’t gelling with what it should be were the bollocks about it I’d been fed since birth to be true. According to that, the reality I saw round me would result in a gradual improvement whereas all round me all I saw in all areas were gradual degradation of all kinds.
  
  Being able to see the world for what it is rather than what we’re told it it is one of life’s most liberating experiences. The only frustrating thing is to be witness to the mass insanity that surrounds us and the ever increasing race to the bottom and knowing that this intellectual, cultural and spiritual debasement is all deliberate.
  
  The same people tried to do it to the Russians by genociding an entire class of people but weren’t successful as IQ and spiritual strength may recede in a nation of people, but it doesn’t dissappear.
  
  Ours, unlike the Russians is a programme that reaches the same destination but through a nice warm fluffy way with words like “diversity”, “equality”, “liberty” etc. vs. a reign of despotic terror.
  
  “We must turn Russia into a desert populated by white negroes upon whom we shall impose a tyranny such as the most terrible Eastern despots never dreamt of. The only difference is that this will be a left-wing tyranny, not a right-wing tyranny. It will be a red tyranny and not a white one” – Trotsky
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Trotskys-White-Negroes-Censored-Holocaust/dp/1533196206
  
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  January 27, 2017 8:51pm
holysheet

This will take the wowsers minds off Trump for a second or two

Researchers create first viable hybrid human-pig embryo. The breakthrough could one day lead to farm-grown organ transplants.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/26/hybrid-human-pig-embryo-chimera-stem-cells/
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January 27, 2017 9:52am
- jonar
  
  Wasn’t Trump the first viable hybrid human-pig embryo? 🙂
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:59am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    I agree.
    
    But I have given up fighting the system to be honest.
    I don’t think the awakening will amount to anything.
    
    I don’t see anything short of an asteroid strike fixing the status quo.
    
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    January 27, 2017 10:36am
    - holysheet
      
      What, no denial from our resident muzzie about the use of pigs to do Allahs work?
      
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      January 27, 2017 10:39am
  - GoVege
    
    No way, Jonar!
    Pigs are nice.
    (It was that Orwell guy who gave them a bad name.)
    
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    January 27, 2017 11:35pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Has anyone here got any update as to how those trials of insulin-producing Pig cells into Humans are working out?
  
  http://www.diabetes.org.nz/news_and_events/nz_news/new_zealand_to_transplant_pig_cells_into_humans_against_diabetes
  
  https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/videos/471-pig-cell-transplants-treat-diabetes
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:19am
  - Jack5
    
    Think the project’s been moved to America, Maggy.
    
    The Auckland Island pigs being used at a farm in Southland were being sold off, last I heard.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/83527303/Awarua-pig-trial-could-be-closed
    
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    January 27, 2017 4:06pm
holysheet

Al Gore and others will hold climate change summit canceled by CDC

Former vice president Al Gore, the American Public Health Association, and other organizations announced today that they will hold the summit on climate change and health that was canceled by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention earlier this week. The Climate & Health Meeting will take place on February 16th, 2017 in Atlanta, Georgia.

On Monday, news broke that the CDC had quietly canceled the Climate and Health Summit that was scheduled for next month in Atlanta, where the CDC is headquartered. The CDC said it was “exploring options to reschedule the meeting while considering budget priorities for fiscal year 2017.” But the scientific community and former CDC officials accused the CDC of backing down for fear of political reprisal by the Trump administration, which has been outspokenly anti-climate change.

They can have as many meetings as they like as long as they pay for them. The long suffering taxpayer has had enough of these snowflakes sucking from the public tit. No More !!!!
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January 27, 2017 10:34am
SPC

Music at the women’s march in DC.

3 times the numbers of the inauguration and three times the talent.

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/01/milcks_icantkeepquiet_song_goe.html
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January 27, 2017 10:37am
Andrei

CNN accidently lets the truth be told
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January 27, 2017 10:48am
RF

One news who obviously gets their news feed from CNN report that the entire level of Senior Managment officials at the US State Dept has quit rather than serve under Trump.

Bull Shit.

When Trump took over, all existing management submitted their resignations as per long standing traditions. Rather than keep them on for the transition Trump dumped them as he had his own team.

Them quitting rather than working under Trump makes a better story.

More shit from One News.
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January 27, 2017 11:03am
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  The reporting is a little bit confused about whether these are political appointees (who would expect to be replaced in a new administration) or career foreign service officials (who would expect to stay).
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:07am
Inandout

Maybe a psychiatrist reading this blog could enlighten us on the sanity of this flake writer.

http://missingmistersmith.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/no-respect-and-no-surrender.html
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January 27, 2017 11:20am
SPC

So it has come to pass as I posted here yesterday.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11789861

The truth 3 could not handle yesterday.

SPC

So the Mexicans will pay for it becomes the people who fund the American budget deficit will pay for it.

And some of them are foreigners, thing is, Americans pay for the cost of the debt.

And saying the Mexicans will be made to pay – will they get an invoice for past or present or future work on the wall? Or will Trump tariff Mexican exports to the USA and claim that money is for the wall? Thing is the American consumer then pays a higher price, so those who buy these goods pay for the wall.

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January 27, 2017 11:23am
- SPC
  
  I wonder if anyone could put a tariff on US goods while still in a free trade agreement with them and get away with it.
  
  This is just a continuance of US tradition in being the continental bully. Reagan stuck it to Grenada and Panama, now its Trump on Mexico – guess the world beyond the continent was a bit too tough Bush regime change in Iraq etc.
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:29am
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  The Mexican President is of course now free to respond by saying if that is how the wall is to be afforded then Mexico will pay half and fund that with a tariff on US imports into Mexico.
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:13pm
Fletch

Trump doing good things so far.

☑ Reinstates ‘Mexico City’ law
☑ Fires State Dept heads.
☑ Mike Pence to attend pro-life March For Life tomorrow
☑ End of TPP
☑ Plans to build the wall.

He isn’t mucking around. Hopefully he will take the scalpel to Obamacare in a bigly way.
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January 27, 2017 11:29am
- Kimbo
  
  Hopefully he will take the scalpel to Obamacare in a bigly way.
  
  I’m intrigued why a New Zealander would consider this important enough, from a Kiwi perspective, to be “hopeful” about it. Care to elucidate why a domestic American concern is ours?
  
  Or is this just a personal Fletch thing? Sort of like an extension of the reality TV of “The Apprentice” onto the wider American political stage, and the vicarious and atavistic thrill of watching Trump say the equivalent of “You’re fired!” to Obamacare/Mexicans/Muslims…?
  
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  January 27, 2017 11:42am
  - holysheet
    
    Kimbo let me enlighten you why so many Kiwis are supporting Trump.
    It has got nothing to do with us I know, but the signs world wide of the left getting their arse kicked after years of continuous PC crap has finally got a champion in Trump.
    I support Trump simply because he is an example of what can and should happen. For too long the lefty snowflakes have had it all their own way. Foisting on the rest of us all their gender bullshit, anti smacking laws, and all other PC crap.
    We can only hope that the Nats here have taken note of the groundswell of anti left sentiment and do something about it. I however will not hold my breath for this to happen.
    
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    January 27, 2017 11:59am
    - Fletch
      
      Exactly. When I see good things happening it is encouraging. The Left, as holysheet says, had have things their way for far too long now, aided and abetted by Obama’s liberal/progressive/politically correct government. And look what the country has become. It’s almost in the midst if anarchy right now – protests, smashed shops, burned cars – just at Trump becoming president. I think the pushback is happening just in time.
      
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      January 27, 2017 12:10pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Thanks for the reply. So Obamacare is incidental, other than the American (social and economic) left is against it and it’s good to see them howl,
      
      1. especially when the economic benefits of Obamacare supposedly don’t add up?
      
      2. therefore supporting Obamacare is a form of “virtue signalling”, and its critics are automatically portrayed as Dickensian Scrooges, rejoicing at the profits they get from denying health care to low-income Americans?, and
      
      3. even though when it comes to his trade policy, Trump is a left-wing protectionist?
      
      Have I got it right? It’s not Trump’s policies as such, or Obamacare anyway, but more the satisfaction that is gained from watching the people he is pissing off?
      
      So, in a sense it is like watching some arsehole get their comeuppance on The Apprentice? Not saying that is wrong (not here and now, anyway 😉 ). But I am still intrigued that people who talk about the debasement of politics courtesy of the Prog-Libs under Obama and before him are so eager to see that same process reduced to the satisfaction of a…reality TV programme.
      
      Nonetheless, far be it from me to interfere with the satisfaction you draw from watching the entertainment for the next four years! 😉
      
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      January 27, 2017 12:23pm
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        eight years. get it right.
        
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        January 27, 2017 12:32pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Well, at least you are a person who knows what he wants, and there is much to be said for that if one is to live a happy life. 😉
        
        Let’s just hope, for our economic well-being, that your guy doesn’t decide waging a trade war, with NZ as one his his opponents, is on his agenda in the next ~~four~~ provisionally eight years! 😉
        
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        January 27, 2017 12:44pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        I think it’s the inbuilt desire for anarchy (linked to the dark urges to destroy) that has been unleashed. Which is why despite being on the side of criticism of the current order for a number of years (though NZ Conservative and previously Sir Humphrey’s) I have u-turned away from it. Unfortunately, I have dropped the ball with regards to steering my prior fellow travelers in a better direction as well. Just didn’t have the energy for it as it was happening.
        
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        January 27, 2017 12:46pm
Stars And Stripes

Blenheim family struggling for a place to live want to stay in town.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88761692/blenheim-family-struggling-for-a-place-to-live-want-to-stay-in-town.

Bad credit rating, alcoholic and god knows what else.
You got yourself into this so how about showing some backbone and get yourself out as you are already having a good snout around in the trough.
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January 27, 2017 11:32am
- holysheet
  
  He said there were five other families at Bing’s Motel in the same situation as he was, and with the Marlborough Wine and Food Festival coming up some of them would have to leave.
  
  There is no chance of being kicked out while the taxpayer is paying $1250 a week per family. The motel owners know a good thing when they see it.
  
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  January 27, 2017 12:06pm
- Inandout
  
  They shouldn’t lower the tone of this budget motel.
  
  http://www.travelpod.com/motel/Bings_Motel-Blenheim.html
  
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  January 27, 2017 12:39pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Where is the mother? Does this loser have custody of the daughters?
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:11pm
Fletch

Last year Planned Parenthood performed 323,999 abortions, which is one child killed every 97 seconds. It has to stop…

https://www.facebook.com/liveaction/videos/10154479443488728/
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January 27, 2017 12:05pm
- holysheet
  
  Bullshit.
  
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  January 27, 2017 12:07pm
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    What is bullshit? You dispute the numbers? Or do you think it is OK?
    
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    January 27, 2017 12:11pm
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      Both
      
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      January 27, 2017 12:33pm
      - Fletch
        
        The latest statistics we have are from the years 2014-2015. Check out the Annual Report on the Planned Parenthood website.
        
        https://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/2114/5089/0863/2014-2015_PPFA_Annual_Report_.pdf
        
        Page 30 –
        
        Abortion Services
        Abortion Procedures – 323,999
        
        As I said, if you break down the figures it comes to one abortion every 97 seconds.
        
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        January 27, 2017 1:07pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I think there are about one million abortions in the US each year. Unremarkable.
        
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        January 27, 2017 1:11pm
      - reid2
        
        Unremarkable.
        
        The banality of evil.
        
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        January 27, 2017 2:43pm
- Garbageman
  
  So do you want control over what someone else does with their body and where exactly will that slippery little slope end eh protesting outside clinics shooting doctors and if “it has to stop” how exactly would you propose this happens ?
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:19pm
Fletch

A close-up snapshot of the f-kd up people on the so-called women’s march to Washington the other day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny1N3NkLLXQ
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January 27, 2017 12:17pm
- kowtow
  
  Scary ,crazy loons.
  
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  January 27, 2017 3:34pm
Manolo

Liberal mayors rebel:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-intervention-into-policing-voting-and-immigration-sets-up-showdown-with-americas-largest-cities/2017/01/25/128b40ae-e31b-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.4319b161cb97
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January 27, 2017 12:23pm
Happychappy

So I wonder whether the Union Bully used the Memorandum of Understanding to have the Green MP make a apology to Labour Party hopeful Laila Harre after telling her she was being untruthful in her reasons for leaving the Green Party and excepting the job to lead the Internet Party at the 2014 NZ Election. This has the stamp of the Labour Party leader all over it and his bulling tactics that he tried to use on the Hagamans.
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January 27, 2017 12:29pm
Jack5

Australia Day has been pretty much stuffed up by Leftists inciting race-based protests and near riots.

In the more lily-livered Western countries national holidays have been hijacked by protesters. Best to abandon them, leaving the day named a national day, but ending its holiday status.

Everyone will know and despise the protesters who remain as useless bludgers, the 5 per cent of unredeemable no-hopers classified by Karl Marx as the lumpen proletariat. The same tiny percentage who are so thick they fuck up every random-selection, written statistical survey they participate in.

Freedom of expression – the right to say or right pretty much what you want – is what counts. Freedom to ram opinions down everyone’s throat and disrupt life and property shouldn’t be part of the deal.

Meanwhile let’s hope the Australia Day buffoonery is not a precursor of what to expect on Waitangi Day. Participation from the country’s underworld gangs will be interesting, since the Mongrel Mob have launched a Treaty claim.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-premier-gladys-berejiklian-so-disappointed-by-australia-day-protests-20170126-gtzddt.html
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January 27, 2017 12:32pm
- mikenmild
  
  If you want an insight into why some people might be protesting on Australia Day, you could watch this documentary shown on Maori TV this week:
  http://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/tuesday-festival-documentaries/S01E001/utopia
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:05pm
  - Jack5
    
    Ah, a John Pilger film, brought to us by Maori TV, and thus financed by the taxpayer.
    
    Pilger hates Western democracies. Still, he said in a speech last March at the University of Sydney that Donald Trump was a less dangerous potential President of the United States than Hillary Clinton.
    
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    January 27, 2017 3:01pm
  - Kimbo
    
    My favourite John Pilger moment. Monumental. Over-rated. Bore. Same with the interviewer. :
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rYQ2o4V3BM
    
    But the story of the Aboriginal man cooking slowly to death in the back of a paddy wagon was horrific.
    
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    January 27, 2017 3:07pm
    - kowtow
      
      My fav bit on Pilger , by Max Hastings. Going to the Wars. In the chapter The Fall of Saigon he recounts being on an American evacuation helicopter…
      
      “To my amazement however I saw John Pilger the Australian leftist. Pilger ,whose views I disagreed with as passionately as he despised mine,had heaped more scorn and contempt upon the South Vietnamese regime and the American engagement than almost any other journolist. Here was a delectable irony : instead of waiting to throw his arms around Hanoi’s liberators on their arrival, he was cadging a ride to safety with the capitalist running dogs and their Vietnamese stooges. At least I could offer the excuse that I never wanted Hanoi to win.”
      
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      January 27, 2017 3:22pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Kimbo:
      
      Thanks for the link to the Kim Hill interview.
      
      For reasons that I can’t recall, I recently searched for this interview, and I didn’t find this version. I remember watching the interview on live TV and observing the camera slowly panning away from a visibly-frustrated Kim Hill at the end of the interview. It’s one of those visual memories that’s stayed with me all these years.
      
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      January 27, 2017 7:13pm
- Gabby
  
  The lumpenproletariat stick to their bah bees and tennies and agree about wodda good job Peda Dadden’s dewing en emmegrashn mite.
  
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  January 27, 2017 1:30pm
Jack5

Dame Devoid wants the police to collect statistics on what she calls “hate crime” then indicates she means hate speech.

That means they would make judgments on speech – on what people can and cannot say. They would be speech censors. As were the Stasi, the KGB, the Gestapo.

Next would be censorship of the internet. That would be very hard,thank goodness.

What are Devoid’s views on race based political representation, on calls for separate courts for Muslims, on polygamy for Muslim immigrants, on Muslim genital mutilation, on forced marriage of migrant children?

Don’t think you’ll hear her views on these things.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11790092
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January 27, 2017 3:51pm
- Jack5
  
  I see that Devoid did mention the internet. The Hooerald reports:
  
  She said online hate speech also needed to be addressed, particularly in media website comment sections and on their social media pages.
  
  All to be reported to the Great Squash Champion of course.
  
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  January 27, 2017 3:58pm
- holysheet
  
  She can start with that racist prick Hone Hatfield. If calling us whites motherfuckers, is not a racist statement I don’t know what is.
  
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  January 27, 2017 6:41pm
  - Gabby
    
    Have you reported that yet?
    
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    January 27, 2017 9:20pm
Longknives

Fifty years since Apollo One..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4156988/NASA-displays-Apollo-capsule-hatch-50-years-fatal-fire.html
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January 27, 2017 3:55pm
MickMac

Brilliant.
Maybe it is the start of something good……

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/19807/The-Trump-administration-may-cut-funds-to-UN-bodies-accepting-PLO
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January 27, 2017 3:56pm
MickMac

and another… yes yes yes……
is 2017 going to be good for America… I hope so.

http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/19812/Top-four-US-foreign-service-officers-abruptly-resign
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January 27, 2017 3:57pm
Maggy Wassilieff

How the Dickens do these folk manage to get employment time and time again in positions where they can easily commit fraud?.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/88829305/fake-reference-led-to-the-discovery-of-nearly-40k-fraud

I thought there were whiz-bang HR folks who ran personality and reference checks over candidates.
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January 27, 2017 3:59pm
Stars And Stripes

African migrant drowns in Venice Grand Canal as onlookers film, laugh and make racist comments
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11790005.

Kind of reminds me of when I was a teenager and I watched some guy drown at Piha while swimming.
The worst thing about it was his girlfriend had just returned to the beach with about $20 worth of fish and chips.
What a horrible waste.
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January 27, 2017 4:20pm
- Gabby
  
  That’s wops for you eh, scabby.
  
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  January 27, 2017 9:14pm
jonar

http://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/female-legislators-unveil-male-ejaculation-bill/

A group of leading female legislators have enacted a new bill that forbids American men from disposing of “unused” sperm, requiring them to bring any recreational semen to a nearby fertility clinic.

According to noted alternative facts specialist, Stephanie Yorke, sperm is intended for “procreation only” and not to be “wasted” on pleasure:
“Any sperm not being used for the purpose of procreation must be immediately donated to a sperm bank,” Yorke warned. “Failure to do so will lead to hefty fines and ultimately, incarceration, under the new ‘Level Playing Field Bill’.”
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January 27, 2017 4:36pm
- kowtow
  
  And as an incentive they’re providing travel subsidies………which didn’t work as one guy missed the Tube and another came on the bus…..
  
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  January 27, 2017 5:17pm
rangitoto

Racist anti Trump muppets shut down with three words.

http://www.therebel.media/_this_is_library_asian_student_shuts_down_anti_trump_protesters_with_three_words
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January 27, 2017 6:13pm
- Fletch
  
  He’s a libraritarian… 😉
  
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  January 27, 2017 7:55pm
Fletch

BTW, in case you haven’t heard, the Dow has hit over 20,000 points.
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January 27, 2017 6:47pm
nasska

Had a surprise visit from an old mate today. He owns a couple of thousand acres consisting mainly of regenerating scrub out on the coast of the Wairarapa.

The terrain is so steep that about the only thing that you could do with it is grow stepladders but the recent boom in manuka honey has seen his fortunes improve. About half his income results from site rental paid by beekeepers.

Anyway, it turns out that the honey harvest this year has been dismal, most of the hives yielding only a small percentage of what could be expected. After reading the prophesies of doom & gloom hammered by the climate alarmists I expected to hear of end times heat killing the bees mid flight.

But no! It seems that rain & cold temperatures have put the brakes on manuka nectar & the bees are doing time & a half for bugger all honey.

Truly global warming is a mystery to us simple rural folk. 🙂
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January 27, 2017 6:48pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  Truly global warming is a mystery to us simple rural folk.
  
  Give your friend a Kiwiblog log-in (it costs nothing – but it’s the thought that counts) and introduce him to Griff…
  
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  January 27, 2017 7:15pm
- Fletch
  
  It’s the same with the apples – that’s why there is none in the stores. And there’s snow further down South, of course.
  
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  January 27, 2017 10:36pm
stigie

“Truly global warming is a mystery to us simple rural folk.” ?

It baffles us folk that live near the CBD as well Nasska ole chap..?
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January 27, 2017 6:56pm
Manolo

The Times’ perspective:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/lets-stand-together-and-halt-eclipse-of-the-west-0j6mwwjx9

Theresa May offered last night to help President Trump to prevent the West from being “eclipsed” by China as she urged him not to shirk his “obligation” to lead the world.
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January 27, 2017 10:21pm
BeeSting

Behead all those who insult the Trump
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January 28, 2017 12:05am
Manolo

For those who complain about Trump and the press:
https://news.grabien.com/story-why-it-will-be-hard-trump-surpass-obamas-record-chilling-pre
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January 28, 2017 6:33am
Manolo

Will California go?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html
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