General Debate 1 June 2019

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mikenmildagain

Happy World Milk Day!
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June 1, 2019 8:01am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  You can’t say “milk.”
  It will trigger too many people…
  
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  June 1, 2019 8:24am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I defy your instruction as to what I can say, so there.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:08am
    - sooty
      
      Just as well there is yellow, pink and chocolate milk for the woke!
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:03pm
- cmm
  
  Yup, I’m feeling milked this week.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:36am
  - sooty
    
    You, lucky thing!
    
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    June 1, 2019 9:59am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    No use crying over it though.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:09am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  Unfortunately it is also NZ tax freedom day. Now in June. I don’t even blame Labour really. This is something actually caused by nine years of neglect.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:14am
  - Alien
    
    Yeah. But the key government went a long way to fixing those 9 years of neglect by the Clark government, now we have another government wrecking the country again.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:43am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      I’m afraid not. Tax freedom day was never this late when Clark was PM. Under Key there was a small income tax cut, an increase in GST and numerous other taxes, plus the failure to inflation adjust. Of course the current government will be worse, but we should never have been in this position.
      
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      June 1, 2019 2:39pm
      - Alien
        
        Really, because according to this article under Clark tax freedom day was June 1 in 2006, omg that is the same under Jacinda.
        
        “”Kiwis will also be paying taxes for a day longer than they would have without the cancellation of the previous government’s tax relief package. If the tax relief package hadn’t been reversed, Tax Freedom Day would have fallen on May 6 this year.”
        
        Rudd said Tax Freedom Day in 2006, when the last Labour Government was in power, was June 1.“
        
        I’m afraid you are wrong
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/103660283/tax-freedom-day-now-youre-working-for-yourself
        
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        June 1, 2019 3:05pm
- GoVege
  
  I hope that means soya or almond milk….
  
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  June 1, 2019 1:07pm
Happychappy

It was only a matter of time before this happened and I wonder whose fingerprints are on it apart from this former Cheif of the https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/113169105/former-bnz-chair-calls-for-sir-john-key-to-be-forced-to-resign-from-anz. The BNZ.
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June 1, 2019 8:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Just business: a former BNZ head having a go at the ANZ head.
  
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  June 1, 2019 8:36am
- Wayne
  
  John Key made money trading currency. I guarantee that his personality structure is characterised by a tolerance for risk. This is entirely consistent with that.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:59am
- Tall Man
  
  Sir John will resign when the government shows integrity and resigns for deliberately misleading the country……………………………………
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:10am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Since holding your breath is detrimental to your health (and with the health service in such a mess), I suggest you find another way to pass the time while you wait.
    
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    June 1, 2019 1:19pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I have… I have been enjoying myself watching the labour trolls try to regain the narrative by continuing a lie that was shown to be a lie 5 days ago.
      
      The milt and martin show has been a joy to watch, almost like dumb and dumber but without being clever.
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:51pm
- Alien
  
  “In a statement, ANZ said that back in 2014 is had calculated its operational risk capital to be based a previous calculation model which was decommissioned without Reserve Bank approval.”
  
  Pretty sure key wasn’t with the bank in 2014
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:48am
  - Tall Man
    
    Alien take your facts and F–K off.
    
    You should know by now that there is only one fact a labour simpleton needs…ardern is “orsome”…..
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:45am
    - Alien
      
      I will sit in the naughty corner.
      
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      June 1, 2019 1:10pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Just don’t go to the dopey corner… I don’t think you’d play well with milt and martin…..
        
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        June 1, 2019 5:52pm
      - Alien
        
        It’s ok, I don’t have multiple personalities so can’t go there
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:29pm
  - michael_s2
    
    True. Unlike going back to inspect Comalco decisions when Kerry was in charge.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:48am
  - Wired-one
    
    He joined them in October 2017.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:07pm
- freethinker
  
  The Banks governance is a matter for their Shareholders and the countries governance a matter for electors, I have more faith in the ability of ANZ shareholders to deliver an appropriate remedy than NZ voters to do likewise to our politicians.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:31pm
- guardianista
  
  Kerry McDonald’s last two gigs in private sector directorships have been as the chairman of Opus from listing in 2009 which was a complete failure until shareholders were taken out of their misery by a very generous Canadian company in 2017 and as chairman of Powerhouse Ventures.
  Any one that went on the Powerhouse board had to be completely stupid, or jut greedy for the fees. This shitty little investment company had a ridiculous management cost ratio of over 20% and kidded itself that it needed 6 independent directors even though it had a supposed $20m portfolio (never worth even that in reality). As chairman McDonald has to take responsibility for launching this terrible thing onto the Aussie stockmarket that has seen investors lose 95% of their money in 4 years. I rate him the second worst professional director in NZ.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:04pm
Tony Stuart

So the GCSB told Treasury there had been NO hack on Treasury’s website, yet for 24 hours, both the Treasury head and Grant Robertson claimed that there had been.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/113161208/gcsbs-cyber-security-centre-told-treasury-its-computer-network-was-not-compromised
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June 1, 2019 8:14am
- Happychappy
  
  There is no way that senior members of cabinet would not have know and smells like a attempt at dirty politics like happened few years ago. Labour have history with attempts to smear others like this but Jacinda and Grant think the public are to stupid to see through this botched attempt.
  
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  June 1, 2019 8:22am
- WaveyDavey
  
  It was a great get and a good hit but that was all done to death yesterday – time to move on
  
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  June 1, 2019 8:29am
  - Tall Man
    
    Perhaps, but this government needs a really good kicking and Simon ad National have them on the ropes so I think it may be time to keep a firm grip on the throat.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:12am
    - sooty
      
      The only problem was it gave Mallard time to think up new excuses!
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:05pm
      - RW Capitalist
        
        and the CoL to slip through, under urgency, 6 bills, just after the budget reading.
        Including
        8c/l fuel tax
        
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        June 1, 2019 1:23pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Nothing will stop the new taxes as the coalition bludgers will do anything to keep their faces in the trough.
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96852721/read-my-lips-no-new-taxes-says-labour
        
        She’s immature enough to think that crossing her fingers behind her make stops a lie being a lie.
        
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        June 1, 2019 5:54pm
  - redeye
    
    The Labour comms team does a great job of distraction. The budget, the leak & the lies will be completely unheard of by Tuesday.
    Remember the bath Cindy took from the left about her failure to deliver a CGT. That was Thursday prior to Easter. The following Tuesday it was like it never existed and all the media was talking about was her leadership around the CHCH Call.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:02pm
    - madamezucchininz
      
      ….and the msm and comms team are at again with articles in Stuff and the Herald…..oh look the babee the babee poo’ed on the PM…..and in Stuff the First Fish and his UNICEF role…..one knows they are in trouble when they start wheeling out the babee….FFS….
      
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      June 1, 2019 1:51pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I guess Peters still thinking the budget leak is a crime puts his views on the issues surrounding his superannuation payments in perspective too.
  
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  June 1, 2019 8:32am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The 2,000 hits could be an excited public service after the discovery that the secret budget pages had been discovered.
  
  Web security is cumbersome and slow. Browsers deal with plain text files–the security comes from keeping them in a locker, similar to credit card info.
  
  Google has to be seen as the arch hacker. Others started out by sending out their “bots”, hacking programs, to surreptitiously collect web site data and that was aggregated into search engines for commercial gain. Now all the data collected is passed on for advertising as well.
  
  The browser is a poor second, it just reads a text file, interprets its instructions and shows those on your screen. A developer can mark an item to be ignored but it is up to the troll bot or its masters what they do with it.
  
  My guess is the new web pages were not on a separate secured server during the helter skelter of the budgetary processes. One phone call and open sesame. Offices throughout NZ would have been excited.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:20am
  - freethinker
    
    Use Duck Duck Go instead of Google and Ubuntu (Linux) instead of micros**te and your internet experience will improve considerably.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:35pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      For a newcomer to Linux I recommend PCLinuxOS. It’s working well in my wife’s 13yr old PC. Not too techy and does it all including Office–free.
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:18pm
- alloytoo
  
  Milt and his interns were told to sell the “Hack” narrative.
  
  What they fail to understand is that mistakes, while embarrassing are forgivable.
  
  The cover-up, the lies, the slander are not.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:22am
- Martin Williams
  
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  You’re like the little engine that could.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:38am
  - sooty
    
    You’re like the little engine that couldn’t!
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:02am
    - Tall Man
      
      Just like ardern. What sort of person has a corrupt liar as a hero especially when that level of corruption is revealed on almost a daily basis.
      
      I almost feel sorry for these labour interns… almost but they are the architects of their own demise.
      
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      June 1, 2019 10:15am
  - michael_s2
    
    And you, annoying little troll, are like a blowfly at a picnic, adding nothing but trying to spread your crap everywhere.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:55am
- MCos
  
  From the article
  “New Zealand’s cyber security centre told Treasury its computer network was not compromised and recommended it go to police after Budget 2019 information was prematurely made public.”
  
  If ‘compromised’ and ‘hacked’ are the same thing there cyber security centre must have suspected an inside job.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:45am
Rocky Jnr

Next year I am voting for the ABBA Party.
(Anyone but bloody Ardern)
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June 1, 2019 8:21am
- namron
  
  Well done, Robbo. Hope ABBA Party catches on – it should it’s quite “catchy.” I reckon sprinkled liberally throughout comments etc for the next 18 months could be quite effective.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:10am
- sooty
  
  ABC. Anyone But Cindy!
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:12am
- slightlyrighty
  
  Are you hoping Labour will meet it’s Waterloo?
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:04am
  - Rocky Jnr
    
    I hope so, all she does is take more and more of my Money Money Money.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:39am
  - freethinker
    
    Would prefer Dresden ( Brits totally trashed it in revenge for Coventry) but Waterloo a good second choice.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:41pm
- tf78
  
  I have stolen this from elsewhere, but what about the POPP – Pissed Off People’s Party.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:40am
- mara
  
  Not bad. I also like MAGA. Make Ardern Go Away.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:00pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    open a branch of the TEA party
    T axed
    E nough
    A lready
    
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    June 1, 2019 4:39pm
G152

Are they going to apologise for their claims that National ‘hacked’ into their little web site and will Peters make a statement in the House that he misled them when he knowing stated that none of the figures were correct ???
Will toast land butter side up ????
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June 1, 2019 8:38am
sooty

Robbo would know because Cindy told him and she’s the expert cause she went to Paris to save the internet!
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June 1, 2019 8:44am
- Tall Man
  
  Hadn’t been on the telly so possible she didn’t know.
  
  Telling her something is obviously a waste of time as it seems she has the attention span of a rat.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:17am
  - Komata
    
    TM@1017
    
    Methinks with a comparison like that, you are being a bit tough on the Rat, sir…
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:39pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I did think that but with the mods these days a more honest comparison wouldn’t have made it through.
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:57pm
    - Lizziep
      
      Goldfish more like, sorry fixed that for you. Rats can be quite focused in their chores.
      
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      June 2, 2019 7:23am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    Comparing her to a rat is unfair.
    There are some things even rats won’t do.
    
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    June 1, 2019 4:41pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I know. Apologies to the rodents.
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:58pm
kowtow

Very disturbing times in Britain.

‘British Jews in fear after pro-Palestine group supported by Corbyn forces Jewish shops to close with ‘campaign of intimidation”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7087929/Pro-Palestine-group-supported-Corbyn-forces-Jewish-shops-close.html
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June 1, 2019 8:45am
- Tall Man
  
  It may pay to ask just how much financial support is being channeled to all these antisemitic pro islam political parties.
  
  I have no doubt that these lefties wouldn’t cross the road without personal gain.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:20am
  - freethinker
    
    Such tactics legitmize their use by opponents and Muslims will be surprised when they discover they have become the new Eurpean Jews and their lives become as unbearable as those they have intimidated.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:50pm
sooty

Who is going to get on bended knee this weekend?
Certainly no one from Labour cause Helen would give them the death ray stare!
Or would Labour stick a pin in Mallard and say you are done, just to get him into whitless protection!
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June 1, 2019 8:49am
Lee C

Tony do try to keep up.

This is not about defamation, lies, slander or smearing.

The media are now running the narrative that this a ‘fail’ for Bridges, because he talked about it too much.

Yes, the media – our last safeguard against tyranny.
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June 1, 2019 8:59am
- Gravelroad
  
  Lee C- I have worked in various forms of “the media” for the past 45 years and I have never before seen anything like what’s going on now.
  The covering up of negative outcomes relating to Ms Ardern and her troupe of incompetents is a phenomenon of political spin that should be of concern to advertisers and subscribers who are funding it.
  But it isn’t so “journalists” are on a free rein with few checks and balances on their activities.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:20am
  - Wayne
    
    Hmmm how could an incompetent govt so competently manage their PR/spin?
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:01am
    - sooty
      
      By getting other people to do it for you?
      Bit like hiring Cullen!
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:08pm
  - slightlyrighty
    
    There is a worldwide trend where left Leaning Journalists are now actively campaigning against conservatives.
    
    In Canada, Unifor, the union representing 12000 journalists and media workers in Canada has publically announced itself as the resistance to Andrew Scheer, the leader of Canada’s Conservatives.
    
    At the same time, the leftist government of Canada has appointed the same union onto the advisory panel that will decide how the government should dole out $600-million media support fund.
    
    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.5146761/heritage-minister-defends-putting-anti-conservative-union-on-600m-journalism-fund-panel-1.5148429
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:11am
  - Justitia
    
    @ Gravelroad: the triumph of cultural Marxist hegemony as predicted by Antonio Gramisci early last century. The schools, universities, churches and the media have all fallen…
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:13am
  - Komata
    
    Gravelroad@0920
    
    Because ALL NZ media is now acting in a totally partisan and unprecedented way, the obvious question, who is controlling / paying for, this unusual behaviour?
    
    I have my ideas, but nothing definite.
    
    Your thoughts?
    
    Thank you.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:44pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Can the advertisers stand the economy that the COL is about to deliver? The MSM sinking their income base.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:53pm
- Martin Williams
  
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  It is a fail for Bridges because his rampant ego and ambition got in the way of the interests of the country.
  
  He’s a grandstander, a puffed up little shit, and people are generally pretty revolted by that sort of behaviour.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:41am
  - Batman
    
    The interests of the country??
    
    Some minor headline budget information was released, no market or forecast info.
    
    Calm the farm, Martin.
    
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    June 1, 2019 9:53am
  - Alien
    
    I thought the last paragraph you were describing yourself
    
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    June 1, 2019 9:55am
    - Tall Man
      
      Or ardern, “what’s in it for wynston”, galloway, twyford, shaw, davidson, genter and so on.
      
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      June 1, 2019 10:22am
  - herb1
    
    what was your view on getting in the way of the country interest when your lot deliberately caused billions in losses on the value of Power Companies.
    can you point out any losses caused by Bridges release of Budget info?thought not.
    just another empty head from the left
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:02am
  - MrTips
    
    Wow, like Cindy said “it’s what’s on the inside that matters”….
    O.W.N.G.O.A.L
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:04am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Hey Martin, did you miss the “kindness” memo from your boss, Jacinda?
    Regarding the “puffed up little shit” Bridges whom you so casually denigrate:
    Are you aware that he has a strong record of academic excellence and career success away from Political leadership?
    BA and Bachelor of Laws (NZ)
    Post grad degree at Oxford University
    Studied at the London School of Economics
    Intern at the British House of Commons
    Successful law practitioner
    Crown Prosecuter
    
    Please feel free to share your accomplishments, Martin, so that we can weigh up the strength of your contributions here with the successes of Mr Bridges.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:57am
    - Tall Man
      
      “accomplishments, Martin”
      
      Now you are being silly………….
      
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      June 1, 2019 11:43am
- Rob2
  
  They are pissed because he got there first and they had to rely on the Nats. to make the news.
  Nothing like the bitch slapped to whinge and turn feral.
  
  To slow to go looking themselves when the Nats announced they had the info.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:46am
- stephieboy
  
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  Lee C, no we the people – the voters are our last safeguard against Tyranny .
  
  Whether on the streets, at work, at play, at home , at work or here posting on KB or elsewhere ,
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:48am
  - Tall Man
    
    ” we the people – the voters are our last safeguard against Tyranny .”
    
    Well that certainly counts you out steffy girl.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:24am
  - Crisplion
    
    Hey everyone, I know that stephie is an obnoxious so-and-so, but surely he’s right about this? Why all the downticks?
    
    Of course it’s true that our ‘media’ are utterly derelict in their duty but that shouldn’t stop us thinking for ourselves. Democracy lives in the hearts and minds of citizens or it doesn’t live at all.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:26am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Didn’t you know Crispy that as soon as the name ‘stephieboy’ appears it’s an instant downtick magnet irrespective of what he has to say?
      
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      June 1, 2019 11:28am
    - Tall Man
      
      Because “we the people” have been subverted in many cases by a corrupt government outwardly buying votes.
      
      When such abject corruption is tolerated I despair for true democracy.
      
      I just hope that the “silent majority” do rise up in 2020 or sooner if the ardern led corruption we call the coalition stumble across a bit of integrity and take their plans back to the voter to test their “mandate”
      
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      June 1, 2019 11:49am
      - stephieboy
        
        “silent majority”
        
        Including you?
        
        LOL
        
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        June 1, 2019 5:55pm
      - Tall Man
        
        2020… bye bye bullshitters, what you call the coalition.
        
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        June 1, 2019 7:36pm
  - Jack5
    
    “We the people?”
    
    But where, these days, are the rest of the syndicate that uses the Stephieboy pseudonym? The ones who posted with a sub-Continent accent?
    
    We should be concerned for the fate of the youngest of them – the one who liked to talk about roaming malls perving at young – quite young – girls.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:31am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Maybe a bit harsh on the media there? I don’t see that narrative in either of these pretty high-profile pieces.
  
  In this one
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/113144646/smartest-men-in-the-room-pffft-treasury-stands-alone-on-budget-bungle
  
  Stacey Kirk says that Labour are trying to run the line that Bridges shouldn’t have talked about it line, as indeed they are – but she dismisses it as not standing the hypocrisy test, pointing out that nothing in Labour’s behaviour while in Opposition suggests they’d have done any different;
  
  and in this one
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/113162869/nightmare-on-molesworth-st-how-labours-annus-horribilis-went-viral
  
  Garner says it’s a clear one-nil to Bridges.
  
  Not seeing much pro-Labour spin or cover-up there. It’s actually rather refreshing
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:15am
  - Tall Man
    
    Hypocrites and liars yet the press still laud her and the corrupts.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:09pm
  - Peter S
    
    When I first saw the article I thought the Molesworth bit might be a subtle likening of Robertson to the character Nigel Molesworth, but too subtle, just the street name after all.
    Mind you I have always thought Robertson looked more like a poorly aged Harry Potter, except he is definitely no Wizard, and this is surely the “Muggle of all budgets.”
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:25pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Has the countdown to the collapse of the COL silently begun. I smell blood in Moleworth Street.
    
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    June 1, 2019 1:00pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    I don’t believe him, he just can’t avoid having to admit the odd one.
    
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    June 1, 2019 3:51pm
Shut the hell up you Fascist!

As the Chinese will write in one hundred years:

“Hu fan nee cha wing hwa nee ha soo ying che Jacinda de su”

Which roughly translates as:

“The lives of their citizens had become so comfortable under State borrow and spend that when crisis struck the media was only interested in the entertainment value of the Prime Minister’s baby”.
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June 1, 2019 9:07am
- Tall Man
  
  Clever
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:24am
  - sooty
    
    I was bored as it is wet and windy and went to the newspapers website for something to do, can’t remember which one, but nz. Lo and behold there’s a pitcure of squrriels face from New York. I should send an email to Mallard or maybe Mike Bush would be better, to warn them!
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:19pm
Southern Raider

In part #87 of how to turn NZ into a socialist shit hole

Auckland Council wants to substantially change a bylaw to allow freedom campers (or anyone in a vehicle) to stay outside residential houses, schools, parks and beaches and thousands of locations around Auckland, an no time limit to make it worse

You could buy a van and live at Takapuna Beach or outside a primary school
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June 1, 2019 9:10am
- Wayne
  
  Evidence for your claim please.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:02am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Residential streets opened up for freedom camping: Councillors call for boycott of bylaw
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12235165
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:42am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Hard to boycott a bylaw that hasn’t come into effect, and that the council has not yet voted on. The mayor, for one, is opposed to the provision.
      
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      June 1, 2019 11:56am
    - Tall Man
      
      Thank you for “helping out” the lazy…..
      
      Jeeez wayne!
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:00pm
    - sooty
      
      See wayne, you could have goggled just like the hacker and saved Maggy the trouble. Don’t forget to thank her on you way out!
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No thanks needed… I’m happy demonstrating the inability of trolls to undertake very basic web searches.
        
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        June 1, 2019 1:14pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12235165
    
    Note in particular:
    
    “In September last year staff recommended to Auckland Council’s Regulatory Committee that a general rule be applied to all areas not specified in the bylaw or covered by the Reserves Act (which would have been two night maximum stay for self-contained vehicles only.”
    
    “Some committee members were concerned about the potential impact this could have on homeless people sleeping in their vehicles so resolved (by majority vote) to not include the general rule in the statement of proposal. This was also flagged when the Statement Of Proposal went to the Governing Body for approval before it was publicly notified.
    
    “Although the proposal does not prohibit freedom camping in residential streets, the bylaw framework does enable streets where there are problems associated with freedom camping occurring to become prohibited. Indeed, there are some streets where prohibitions have been recommended through the proposal.”
    
    So if it hasn’t been specifically prohibited, people will be sleeping outside your house in any vehicle, without inbuilt facilities and behaving any way they like. Then good luck collecting plenty of evidence of defecation/noise/disturbance etc so that finally some prohibition might be placed. Meanwhile expect possibly dangerous conflict while you collect the evidence.
    
    So this is the Council’s way of dealing with homelessness. Don’t build housing. Don’t at least get people into properly run camping grounds where the owners control behaviour. Just let people sleep in their cars in any street they like, shitting in the gutter.
    
    Yes, that’s the majority opinion in our Council now.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:53pm
- toby1845
  
  Nothing interrupts a good night’s sleep on a cold winter night like a brick through the windscreen of one’s van/car.
  
  Or so someone told me.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:39pm
lilman

Just left supermarket and Dad, 50 or so,with kids wearing Labour Tee emptied his trolley into car and couldnt be bothered pushing said Trolley 15 mtrs to store it ,leaving it in middle of driveway.

“Do you want me to clean up after you like your f……. useless Government will in a few years”
He wasnt happy.

lol, every man should have an reason to vent every morning,my wife said your in a good mood when I came home.
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June 1, 2019 9:16am
- Alien
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Or you could of done what most people do and just be a nice person and take it. Why get Agro. No need. You might benefit from anger management
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:02am
  - kowtow
    
    have done
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:18am
  - lilman
    
    No way,labour idiots need to be schooled every chance I get.
    
    You want to be nice go for it.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:24am
  - Tall Man
    
    Sorry, again I disagree with you.
    
    If it was just the occasional trolley or handicapped park that these lazy scum leave around or occupy then sure, but it isn’t. It is in the hundreds on some days with regard to trolleys free wheeling about and almost every time I go to Bunnings, the supermarket or mall car park I see the same type of person being a scum bucket.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:28am
    - sooty
      
      Probably a union rep in Labour car.
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:23pm
      - toby1845
        
        Talking of which, last Saturday my wife asked me why there was grey paint on the tip of the house key on my key ring after I got home from Pak’n’Save.
        
        I said: “E Tu.”
        
        Her: “Is that Maori?”
        
        Moi: “Not sure. It was written on a car door.”
        
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        June 1, 2019 9:48pm
    - Alien
      
      I go to pak n save and watch the trolley guy walking over to all disabled and elderly and taking the trolleys back for them. There is too much agro in this world. People go off at the stupidest things
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:32pm
- Wayne
  
  You’re
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:02am
  - lilman
    
    Cheers wayne ,thanks for the help …..you werent at the Supermarket this morning by any chance?
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:27am
Jack5

Stuff today carries a byline for a “visual journalist”.

A photographer? A reporter who isn’t blind?
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June 1, 2019 9:17am
- Rachael Membery
  
  A happy snapper? No need to write I assume.
  
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  June 1, 2019 3:57pm
Happychappy

This should be happening in NZ as Winston Peter’s has deliberately misled the NZ public twice in ten days in trying to smear Simon Bridges. Then we have the blatant lies from Grant Robertson over the budget leak and the public would have be stupid to believe that and the fact the PM didn’t know.
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/boris-johnson-face-court-questions-over-alleged-brexit-lies
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June 1, 2019 9:17am
- Lance
  
  And of course Winston will hint he can work with any party at the next election… yea right.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:04am
  - Yvette
    
    Winston will hint he can work with any party at the next election, as he claimed after reportedly filing legal disclosure claims relating to his “super details”, the day before the last Election, against four senior MPs in the National Party, with which he negotiated, supposedly in good faith, to form a Government?
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:20am
  - sooty
    
    But will any party work with him?
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:24pm
Jack5

Today, June 1, is traditionally the day that share milkers – farm milking contractors – move their herds between farms.

It was always known as Gypsy Day. Now our PC media call it Moving Day, or a corny variation, Mooving Day.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/country/391011/moo-ving-day-the-annual-dairy-cow-migration
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June 1, 2019 9:24am
- kowtow
  
  They’ve picked up the PC nonsense brigade.
  
  “A recent Otago Regional Council media release referred to Gypsy Day, but Dunedin city councillor Aaron Hawkins objected, saying the term ”gypsy” was often used as a slur against Roma people.
  
  ORC officials later said the term was still commonly used in farming circles, but because of its ”undertones”, the ORC would not use it in future.”
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/business/farming/dairy-industry-urged-take-care
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:22am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I attended Matamata College many years ago and I recall our Social Studies teacher talking about nomadic herders in central Asia.
  One boy asked if sharemilkers could be called nomadic herders? Well, the 50% ones own their own herd.
  Some years ago a recent law graduate was bemused by a sharemilker saying he had a freehold herd? Turns out his herd was not subject to encumbrances under the Chattels Transfer legislation. The lawyer had studied about leasehold land and freehold land owned as an estate in fee simple, but a freehold herd of cows had him beat.
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:28am
Pete George

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The launch this week of the book Whale Oil understandably put Cameron Slater and his dirty blogging at the centre of attention. But he has been in some cases paid and aided, abetted and used by a number of accomplices.

Someone who has been closely associated with Slater in his sustained attacks on Matt Blomfield is an ex-business associate of Blomfield’s, Marc Spring. If anything he has done more for longer than Slater.

One way Spring has kept attacks going against Blomfield) is his use of many identities in his online activities.

How many identities? That’s hard to quantify, but it’s many. my guess is well over a hundred identities, if not many more.

I identified over 40 in an eight month period just one blog.

There have probably been some here.

Use of multiple pseudonyms is deceptive, and is bad for the many people who legitimately and reasonably use a pseudonym, as id discredits the use of pseudonyms generally.

The many identities of Marc Spring
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June 1, 2019 9:26am
- Alien
  
  Well at least list the identities
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:56am
  - Tall Man
    
    Please don’t encourage him.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:30am
  - Alien
    
    Thanks for listing them
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:07am
    - sooty
      
      Me,
      my self,
      Some one,
      Other one,
      Dumb one.
      
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      June 1, 2019 12:28pm
  - Pete George
    
    Here are Marc Spring identities that have been used on various blogs and media comments forums.
    
    ThreeMonkeys
    SHAFT
    The Ape
    NOT MIKE
    4077th
    Gweg pwesland
    pimp
    phillip
    DaveG
    slicedcheesesandwich
    Justice4Matt
    BLOMFIELDS EX BIZ PARTNER
    Harry ‘Gold Star’ Stottle
    Harry Stottle
    to HELL in a handbasket
    The Assasin
    David Jessop
    CHEEKY DARKY
    the MONKEYS RAINCOAT
    Elton
    Samantha Hays
    The Barber
    They Walk, they talk, they harm
    THE PRIEST
    Hannibal Lecters Psychologist
    Inspector Clouseau
    Rod
    I HAVE THE HARD DRIVE
    MARC NEVER FORGETS CUNT
    I AM OWED TOO
    THE WORST NIGHTMARE
    When dies Bankrupt = Businessman
    Jean
    Bus Driver
    LORD DONKEY
    Harvey Specter
    TYRANT/THE TYRANT
    HUSTLER
    BUCK WIT
    Shagger
    Gimp of Greenhithe
    Spiderman wants his mask back
    RAMBONE OF RAMBONIA
    Reaper Crew
    Gay Mo
    Rolf Harris
    Bill Brown
    Reaper Crew
    
    The last one is one of I believe a number he has used at Lauda Finem.
    
    https://yournz.org/2019/06/01/the-many-identities-of-marc-spring-include/
    
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    June 1, 2019 2:51pm
    - MrTips
      
      My fav is Gimp of Greenhithe. Wish I’d thought of that
      
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      June 1, 2019 4:47pm
      - Alien
        
        I was hoping I made the list 🙁
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:33pm
    - toby1845
      
      Well, Pete, you’ve missed my three names.
      
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      June 1, 2019 10:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Why people can’t simply ignore manic egoists like Slater or Spring is beyond me,Some must have deeply fragile egos.
  
  Unless either of them break the law then place a constructive ignore as most politicians and public figures do.
  
  This happens to be the case in respect of the more unhinged Slater/ Spring like posts on KB.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:27pm
  - Pete George
    
    If they decide to harass you they continue for weeks, months, in some cases many years. They try to destroy reputations and careers. I don’t think that should be ignored (it can’t be ignored if they try legal action against you).
    
    Matt Blomfield decided to do something about it after over a hundred posts on Whale Oil over several months. It took him over 6 years, and the attacks continued relentlessly during much of that period) in the courts, but he has done many people a big favour.
    
    If you say people should just ignore them then you have no idea how bad they have been and how many people they have hurt.
    
    And they haven’t all been held to account yet.
    
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    June 1, 2019 3:04pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      If they decide to harass you they continue for weeks, months, in some cases many years. They try to destroy reputations and careers. I don’t think that should be ignored.
      
      Neither do I….and as I discovered on your blog, anonymous harassers/abusers follow you about wherever you post.
      
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      June 1, 2019 3:12pm
      - Pete George
        
        Yes. That sort of thing shouldn’t be ignored, but it can be difficult to stop from happening when abusers are persistent. It can be like whack-a-mole
        
        What happened to you wasn’t acceptable, an accumulation of attacks across blogs, and shouldn’t happen again, but persistent abusers become practiced at beating the system. I understand what it was like for you, I’ve been on the receiving end often enough (too often).
        
        It can be difficult for moderators getting the right balance of allowing reasonably free speech while protecting from abuse. If everyone who someone else didn’t want commenting was banned there would be few left.
        
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        June 1, 2019 3:48pm
MrTips

LOL. So Keith Ng thinks National did a bad thing re the Budget leak.

Keith, you make, and so do all the other left wing apologists with coccyx shock syndrome from the repeated kickings in the last week, a deliberate or stupid ommission:

NO ONE has a right to see someone’s else’s data at WINZ or MSD. This is why they don’t put it on their website.

EVERYONE has a right to see the Budget and Treasury data. This is why they put it on the website.

It is the opposition’s job to embarrass and highlight incompetence in the govt. This is called politics. Get over yourselves.
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June 1, 2019 9:29am
- Batman
  
  And somewhat ironic that Keith is the guy who hacked an msd computer console and then went to media about it…
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:55am
  - sooty
    
    It’s different when the left do it!
    Was Keith Ng in donkey deep with Hagar?
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:09am
    - Batman
      
      No Keith is a few levels above that scumbag, he’s actually a decent sort most of the time
      
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      June 1, 2019 10:14am
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Possibly too late to comment on the Hoskings blog ‘The bullies butchering the economy’ but it strikes me that it has what would be for some a whining tone, that wouldn’t benefit a political party building toward an election. Cry baby sort of thing in the school yard.
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June 1, 2019 9:45am
- stephieboy
  
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  Or throwing the toys out of the playpen!
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:49am
- Lance
  
  Brian Brian Brain… you should be worried when the only one that agrees with you is stephieboy
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:06am
Happychappy

Mods : How come I have to wait 90 minutes to go out of moderation and Pete George gets on here and spews his hate for Cameron Slater any anyone else that’s associated with him.
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June 1, 2019 9:48am
- Batman
  
  Just unlucky timing. A couple of mods are busy today.
  
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  June 1, 2019 9:51am
  - Happychappy
    
    It us more about principle than a dig at you Batman but I thought this hate comments was the reason for stricked moderation.
    
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    June 1, 2019 10:02am
    - Batman
      
      Oh I’m not taking it personally don’t worry!
      
      Where is the comment? I’ll have a look
      
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      June 1, 2019 10:10am
- Alien
  
  I’m sure David explained it when he brought in moderation. Use your real name, no moderation. Use a screen name but give him the ability to see who you are, no moderation. Use a screen name without that, moderation
  
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  June 1, 2019 10:21am
  - Tall Man
    
    I don’t think that is correct as I have given him my personal details and private email address but still post under my pseudonym and I get moderated….. and occasionally spanked for commenting accurately on “dear leader” whose name must not be sullied…..
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:58am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Is Pete George real? I thought he was some kind of W.O hating beige robot trying to get people to read his blog.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:32pm
    - Alien
      
      Is anyone real? I’m hoping to wake up soon and see sir John Key is still running the country
      
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      June 1, 2019 3:18pm
      - Tall Man
        
        I should downvote you for being a fucking tease…………..
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:04pm
Maggie Pie

4 Ducks and a Turkey. On the way home – too bloody cold.
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June 1, 2019 10:10am
- Peter S
  
  Labour party. 1 duck. Lots of turkeys. Wish we could send them home.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:14pm
Happychappy

Meant to be stricter.
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June 1, 2019 10:12am
- Aliog
  
  You can write to DPF and explain why you still want or need to use a pseudonym – if you have a good track record, your stuff gets through straight away. In Pete’s case, he’s using his own name so it gets straight through. Just as well…then we all have more time to downtick him to oblivion 🙂
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:02am
  - Happychappy
    
    I agree with what you say but you can’t have two standards and just for you a example,Tall Man and Maggie pie have both had comment warning if the word holy is used or a photo of horse Jacinda is put up again. Now Pete George has a beef with Cameron Slater and he use this site to spew his hate about him so there is two standards which needs to be addressed.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:15am
    - Pete George
      
      Sounds like you’re the one spewing.
      
      See this:
      
      What animates the likes of Slater and the haters he attracts remains a mystery, other than that they lack normal empathy and a sense of decency. That they are enabled by the failings in our systems and our souls is more the point, and this necessary but unpleasant book should be required reading for anyone interested in reforming the media-legal nexus for the realities of the attention economy. That will be too late for Matt Blomfield, but at least he’s finally out of the shit, while those he wrestled are still in it – just maybe not loving it quite as much.
      
      https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/06/01/614160/where-only-trolls-and-the-misshapen-go#
      
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      June 1, 2019 7:25pm
kevn

@PG… What a murky bunch.
Of very limited interest to the majority of posters here.
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June 1, 2019 10:14am
- Pete George
  
  Going by the number of link clicking, there’s quite a bit of quiet interest here, as usual. Only a small minority are vocal against me (and actively or tacitly supporting the murky bunch).
  
  But abuse of pseudonyms should be of wider interest here. It’s presumably one of the reasons why DPF has put more moderation in place.
  
  Use of multiple pseudonyms to try to manipulate discussions and opinion and to try to shut up or drown out opposing views is a problem for most blog moderators.
  
  It’s funny to see exposure of examples of this labelled as hate speech, along with open attempts to abuse the tick system to try to shut down speech some don’t want. But there are far more click links to further details than click attempts to suppress.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:27am
  - Tall Man
    
    Your “small minority” may eventually swamp you.
    
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    June 1, 2019 11:56am
    - Maggie Pie
      
      Im pretty sure PG also comments under the pseudonym
      of his altar ego ‘Kitty Katkin’ 🙂
      
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      June 1, 2019 1:14pm
      - Pete George
        
        False. I only comment under my own name.
        
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        June 1, 2019 7:26pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Tall Man , you a member of the majority?
      
      Never!
      
      Deluded too!
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:59pm
      - Tall Man
        
        2020… bye bye liars.
        
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        June 1, 2019 7:39pm
-D

What on god’s good earth is the rationale for the SuperFund stumping up $240M of pure ‘venture capital’ to provide seed money for local startups?

Don’t these numpties (not the startups) know anything at all about retirement investment? This is outrageously irresponsible risk taking on the government’s part.

Hands off and butt out !
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June 1, 2019 10:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  What on god’s good earth is the rationale for the SuperFund stumping up $240M of pure ‘venture capital’ to provide seed money for local startups?
  
  The rationale is that some folks can’t raise the money for their pet projects any other way than by looting the Public savings fund.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:59am
  - Rob2
    
    Nah, Grant or someone told them “lets do this”.
    
    We will give you another 500 million to top you up.
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:22pm
  - sooty
    
    Maybe because their schemes are shit!
    
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    June 1, 2019 12:31pm
- Piniwi
  
  @-D surely you are aware of the origins of this fund? It is known as the Cullen Fund for a very good reason. A backup source of funding in the event they got through the 2008 election with borrowed funding for wannabe investors to “invest. Why do you suppose they were so upset when National suspended further borrowing to “invest” in it?
  Think of the famous Cossack Ad used by National to expose the then Labour Governments true intentions for their compulsory Superannuation Scheme. Complete State ownership being the ultimate objective whereas their continued fiscal failures have them so desperate they need the Cullen Fund to use as a backup.
  No surprise there for older observers of having the PGF being part of the funding allocated for Kiwirail. The majority are enjoying the irony as that is another Kiwi labeled Cullen failure.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:54pm
Yvette

Can Simon Bridges explain his unhappiness with the “leak” breaking the embargo on his expenses, but why he is crowing now over his breaking the Budget embargo?

Would it not be more useful to voters and the public if Simon could say something sensible about the figures rather than he managed to access them a day or two in advance of being told officially?

That stupidity should indeed, more than anything else, have alerted him to the fact it was not Jami-Lee Ross who spilt Simon’s expenses, but rather someone wishing to take out Ross. Simon still hasn’t figured that out.

But telling us Budget figures a day or two early, tells us fucking nothing we don’t know now officially – except if does reveal National has a certain lack of integrity when it comes to embargoes.
It is what the Budget detail means now it is confirmed that might benefit from some examination.

If anything the Budget shows Kiwibuild’s one great success so far – because the money not being spent on it is making the short term surplus bigger.

There’s a start Simon.

And to put things in perspective – that all this “Wellbeing” crap is actually a bullshit slogan, another one – what of the last Budget was not for the country’s “wellbeing” in comparison to items in this current budget that supposedly are?

Downtickers, knock yourselves out …
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June 1, 2019 10:29am
- srylands
  
  I agree with you. National made treasury look silly and annoyed the government. So what? Their job is to present an alternative budget. Has National committed to reversing any of the government’s decisions apart from the oil and gas exploration ban? Even that is futile. The damage is permanent.
  
  But a small thing. Whether Kiwibuild goes fast or goes slow has no impact on the crown’s operating balance. The 2 billion is capital expenditure.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:41am
- Tall Man
  
  I think he did if you can be bothered looking… apologies for posting the whole email but it does answer part of the question:
  
  “Yesterday the Labour-led Government delivered Budget 2019, and behind all the hype and well-being spin, it’s the same old Labour Party.
  
  Tax, borrow, spend and hope. You just can’t trust them with your money.
  
  Don’t get me wrong, there are a few things in the Budget I can whole-heartedly support. Mental Health is an issue I care deeply about, and we need to get beyond the politics and deliver for the people that need it most. Housing First is also something I support – it was National that started it and good to see the program getting further investment.
  
  But what about the hardworking teachers, health services, housing reform, education and the economy – nothing but barely keeping the lights on. Hardly transformational.
  
  What Kiwis are now seeing is the stone-cold reality of a Labour-led Government, a party that used to represent the interests of those that work hard and want to get ahead, now representing those who don’t work at all.
  
  Let’s break their botched budget down:
  
  – Economic Growth – 4% to 2.6%
  – Debt up by $17 billion
  – Jobs – from +10,000 a month, to now -4,000 this year
  – 13,000 more beneficiaries
  – Hardship grants up $48m in a year
  – Emergency housing need has tripled – and KiwiBuild not mentioned even once
  – Rents up – $50 per week
  – Fuel up – 6 month high – now over $2.20 a litre
  – Electricity prices going up
  – Health funding not keeping up with demand – surgeries decreasing
  – No meaningful increase in funding for essential drugs to save lives – no cancer drugs
  
  Average Kiwis are being squeezed and let down by this Government. Glossy pictures and talk of wellbeing don’t pay the bills, and no amount of good intentions will fill your car up with gas.
  
  The Budget has shown the economy is sharply declining and the Government still has no plan to deliver the economic growth required to pay for their promises.
  
  A National Government that I lead would prioritise Health, Education, Infrastructure and let Kiwi families keep more of what they earn.
  
  New Zealand needs real leadership, everyday Kiwis need a champion, and the economy needs an actual plan.
  
  In less than 18 months there will be a General Election. I’m ambitious for New Zealand and we’ll be ready to go from day one.
  
  I’m counting on your support.
  
  Regards
  
  Simon
  
  Simon Bridges”
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:53am
  - srylands
    
    Yes fair enough. But what does “prioritise” mean? The only education policy I can recall is making class sizes marginally smaller which is a stupid waste of money.
    
    What infrastructure will they fund and why? What are they going to do about local government fuckery?
    
    Can’t National compile a small group of interested people to help them formulate some policy detail? Seriously I would be willing to help. Simon if you read this give me a call ?
    
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    June 1, 2019 3:15pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Email him.
      
      He generally replies and you won’t get a visit from the police…..
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:07pm
- Tall Man
  
  And Yvette, if you think secretly recording a conversation you are having with a friend and colleague and releasing excerpts to the media is the same as going online and looking at something that is freely available for all and sundry to access then you deserve your downticks and more in my opinion.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:55am
  - Yvette
    
    Tall Man, thank you for the copy of the email above.
    
    Regarding, though, my mention of Bridges expenses leak, the point was the stupidity of that being within hours of the official release.
    
    Same with Simon’s budget access – it really did little more than show that it can be done. And in this instance, as I doubt it will ever happen again.
    
    Bridges should have used his heads-up to better refute the Budget’s “wellbeing” crap – which apparently draws the admiration of Richard Brandson – when it is just another bloody ordinary budget like any other, including the last.
    
    So really nothing to do with an arsehole secretly recording a conversation with a friend and colleague and releasing excerpts to the media. He was not actually proven by the PriceWaterhouse Inquiry to have leaked the expenses information.
    
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    June 1, 2019 2:09pm
    - Tall Man
      
      My recollection is different than yours as is my opinion.
      
      Cheers.
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:08pm
- Happychappy
  
  They more interested in doing cover ups for Jacinda and being pooped on by Nev.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12236473
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:04pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Oh dear, how awful for her. //
    
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    June 1, 2019 1:20pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      I agree…
      my babies never pooped on me.
      
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      June 1, 2019 3:14pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, the stuff of Ripley’s believe it or not with its bizarre events and claims,
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley%27s_Believe_It_or_Not!
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:04pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Mine would have liked to on ardern… hell there are times I’d like to rather than have her taking a crap on my country.
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:09pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        Why would I lie about such a matter?
        
        Clearly you are not a parent.
        
        It was bloody obvious when my babies were going to defecate. I wasn’t going to pick the child up sans nappy when a poo was expected.
        
        However, on one memorable occasion Brigadier Gilbert (ex-SIS head) was holding my eldest babe when she dropped a load into her nappy.
        (To his credit – he was unfazed).
        
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        June 1, 2019 6:51pm
      - Alien
        
        I was sitting on Santa as a baby when I dropped a bomb, ah, the look of Santa in the photo is classic. Sigh, now I know why I never got of the naughty list.
        
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        June 1, 2019 8:28pm
Fletch

You won’t believe what the SJWs here have turned their sights on now. Wait for it… the plastic lollypop sticks on Chupa Chups. The want to boycott the brand until they get rid of the sticks….

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/05/calls-to-boycott-chupa-chup-lollies-over-plastic-sticks.html
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June 1, 2019 10:33am
- Tall Man
  
  Yep, let’s go back to the soggy paper roll which leaves the end of the lolly having what looks like a roll of toilet paper shoved up inside……
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:51am
  - Alien
    
    ? You want to go back to a Labour Party youth camp?
    
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    June 1, 2019 1:14pm
- Wired-one
  
  A more important question to ask would be, why dont those whistles ever work…
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:16pm
Maggie Pie

With my partner on his way home early, i roared round the house getting cleaned up.
The radio was still on IZB and i overheard Jackie Tame say: “Baby Beluga is still stuck in my head”
HONESTLY? Go figure..
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June 1, 2019 10:49am
- Alien
  
  Tame ate a baby?
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:30am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    no silly! he was taliking about the WIGGLES 🙂
    
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    June 1, 2019 1:19pm
    - Alien
      
      Eeeew, I hope he kept it in his pants
      
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      June 1, 2019 2:02pm
Cobolt24

Driver dies after crashing car into tree following short police chase in Auckland | Stuff
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/113111444/driver-dies-after-crashing-car-into-tree-following-short-police-chase-in-auckland
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June 1, 2019 11:03am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Another positive result for the gene pool.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:33am
  - stephieboy
    
    Captain Mainwaring,only the non whites gene poo?l
    
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    June 1, 2019 6:08pm
    - Swifty
      
      Don’t be such an arsehole.
      
      Since you arrived here today you’ve done nothing but pick fights with people with your stupid and low-calorie snarks.
      
      Why are you always such a dick?
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:40pm
      - Tall Man
        
        steffy girl thinks she’s funny….
        
        She’s wrong.
        
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        June 1, 2019 9:42pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Swifty, serves Captain Mainwaring right for trying to trivialise a death!
        
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        June 2, 2019 3:00pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Driver dies after fleeing from police.
  
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  June 1, 2019 1:23pm
  - tavita
    
    WG I don’t usually worry about use of the English language but this word ‘after’ gets to me. Surely it was ‘driver dies fleeing from police’. The word ‘after’ almost implies the death could have been from a different cause. Maybe the police caught him and killed him.. Perhaps a better example is the Herald favourite, driver killed after car crash. I always imagine its a road rage incident. There has been a crash and one driver has come out and killed the other.
    
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    June 2, 2019 5:31am
Happychappy

The Herald are obviously not doing as great as they make out on their Premier Newshttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12234595
Why anyone would want to read anything from second rate Journalists has got me beat.
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June 1, 2019 11:04am
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/business-top-stories/113175199/billionaire-richard-branson-wants-the-world-to-follow-nzs-2019-wellbeing-budget

I was wondering when they would publish support for Ardern & Co to compensate for last week’s shambles.
This looks like it.
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June 1, 2019 11:06am
- Alien
  
  That’s the problem with these people they take the hype and have no idea how bad it is here.
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:29am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Branson certainly speaks with authority in endorsing high tax and spend left wing political solutions. Oh no, wait, I meant no authority the tax dodging bastard.
  
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  June 1, 2019 12:06pm
Fletch

So, the budget has $3 million set aside for transgenders to have surgery so they can play at being the opposite sex. Meanwhile, no money has been set aside for the 500 people waiting for cochlear implants to allow them to hear again. In fact, Labour cut $6.5 million in funding for the same last year.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/05/transgender-funding-cannabis-vote-refugee-quota-what-else-did-budget-2019-cover.html

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1905/S00519/budget-delivers-heartbreak-for-cochlear-implant-patients.htm

Priorities, ey? It seems they feel it’s better spending money for trans people to have unnecessary operations rather than for Kiwis to be able to hear again.
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June 1, 2019 11:18am
- sooty
  
  Labour looking after toadies?
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve calculated that that $3M will only go half-way to clearing our backlog of gender reassignment surgery.
  
  As of last year there were 79 folks wanting Male to Female reassignment …average cost of operation = $54,000.
  So….around $ 430,000 to cover that lot.
  
  26 were wanting the more expensive Female to Male surgery … average cost $220,000…
  Total cost for them = $5,720,000
  
  All up… $6,150,000.
  
  Might be cheaper if the Government sent them to Thailand or South Korea for the surgery.
  
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  June 1, 2019 4:45pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Woops, forgot the reference to figures:
    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/10/15/277680/gender-reassignment-surgery-cap-lifted
    
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    June 1, 2019 4:52pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Might be better all round if they went to Thailand…. full stop.
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:32pm
  - Alien
    
    So male to female, or as I call it, a bobbit special is about the cost of three knee replacement
    
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    June 1, 2019 6:38pm
Maggie Pie

A good friend of my partner has been one of the first to put a deposit on a new ‘Tesla 3’.
Its something over $100k he was telling him.
I know that when my partner gets home the first thing he will do is send him this link that just popped up on my twitter..LOL!!

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1134512628779212801
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June 1, 2019 11:27am
- stephieboy
  
  Maggie Pie, if I was that good friend or even you or Aladdin for that matter I would opt for this far , far more reliable Hyundai Kona V with an impressive 449 k range,
  
  https://www.hyundai.co.nz/suv/kona-electric/overview?utm_campaign=Q2_2019_fieldays_always_on&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=search&gclid=Cj0KCQjwocPnBRDFARIsAJJcf97AskcXi6aCrNz0UqrdXxe3CWbBpx31PUWKd7Wvdm4QwqRJ8NAJ9sIaAiQiEALw_wcB
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:44pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Yes, i can see why you would prefer that one stephieboy – there’s room for your ‘Nan’ in the back 🙁
    
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    June 1, 2019 5:48pm
    - Tall Man
      
      https://media.giphy.com/media/cMso9wDwqSy3e/giphy.gif
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:38pm
Ross12

I wonder how long it will take the Californians to wake to the fact that sanctuary cities may not be a good idea when they have typhoid and plague showing up on their streets.
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June 1, 2019 12:24pm
The King

“Brenton Tarrant peddles the Great Replacement White Supremacist conspiracy theory”

CNN hold my beer..

“The vanishing White America”

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/06/30/the-vanishing-white-american.cnn
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June 1, 2019 12:43pm
- stephieboy
  
  The King, from your link,
  
  “White deaths outpace white births in more than 50% of states, and by 2045 the U.S. population will be less than half-white. How does this play out politically? Source: CNN”
  
  Good reason for you to press the paranoid button?
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:46pm
  - The King
    
    I’m not the Patrick Gower finding skinheads under his bed every night stephieboy.
    
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    June 1, 2019 6:27pm
- GoVege
  
  However they deal with their survivor guilt, it is just horrendous to think of all the suffering the families of the victims are going through, and will go continue to experience for the rest of their lives.
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:54pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Another update on the USA:
  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/paul-craig-roberts-warns-western-supremacy-its-way-out
  
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  June 1, 2019 5:34pm
Swifty

With the greatest respect to those harmed or affected by the terrible tragedy – if his supposed god ‘let him live’ or ‘chose him to live’ it would be interesting to know why he believes his god let or chose the other 51 to die.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/112845011/mosque-shooting-overcoming-the-guilt-of-living-when-others-did-not

Some plan.
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June 1, 2019 1:01pm
- GoVege
  
  However they deal with their survivor guilt, it is just horrendous to think of all the suffering the families of the victims are going through, and will go continue to experience for the rest of their lives.
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:53pm
- Alien
  
  Survivors guilt is an awful thing to live with, I hope he can get the help he needs to move forward.
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:56pm
- Inandout
  
  I am fast losing any interest in that shooting, and Cindy is helping by making me forget names and manifestos.
  
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  June 1, 2019 3:05pm
- The King
  
  I’d advise the GSCB look into these survivors what happens when his “God” chooses him to act on revenge?
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:31pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Yes, because the victims of the shootings are clearly the most dangerous people.
    
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    June 1, 2019 8:37pm
- Rob2
  
  Isn’t it known as Inshallah or something translated in to “Gods Will”
  Oh it does.
  n shāʾ Allāh (Arabic: إن شاء الله‎, ʾin shāʾa llāhu; pronounced [ʔɪn ʃaːʔɑ ɫˈɫɑːh]), also inshallah, in sha Allah or insha’Allah, is the Arabic language expression for “God willing” or “if God wills”.[1] The phrase comes from a Quranic command which commands Muslims to use it when speaking of future events.[2][Quran 18:24] The phrase is commonly used by Muslims, Arab Christians, and Arabic-speakers of other religions to refer to events that one hopes will happen in the future.[3][4] It expresses the belief that nothing happens unless God wills it and that his will supersedes all human will.[3]
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:40pm
GoVege

The news says more mums are being kicked out of hospital after two hours, endangering them and their newborn babies’ lives.
Apparently NZ does not keep records of babies permanently damaged at or shortly after birth.
God knows how many there are by now.
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June 1, 2019 1:32pm
- Inandout
  
  GoVege, there is no more money for hospitals, Shane and his lot of ‘underprivs’ have grabbed most of it.
  
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  June 1, 2019 3:07pm
- Happychappy
  
  That’s not criticism of your beloved Labour Party is it Go Vege, Jacinda will be so upset.
  
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  June 1, 2019 4:05pm
  - GoVege
    
    This has been going on for a long, long time, fellas.
    Long before Labour got in.
    But they should be doing something about it, now they have the chance.
    
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    June 1, 2019 7:21pm
- Rob2
  
  Happened in the old days didn’t it.
  Plenty of examples on the left.
  Dropped on their heads. No brain function restored.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:37pm
- Tall Man
  
  I know where there’s a few… about 63 at last count….
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:45pm
Swifty

Zain Syed is clearly dishonest and a thief, but just why is MSD entering into contracts with anyone other than the (proven) owner or their proven representative?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/113166235/tenant-made-more-than-60000-after-illegally-subletting-rental-to-homeless
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June 1, 2019 2:02pm
- GoVege
  
  They do it because some landlords refuse to hand over receipts for rent.
  My sis rented a freezing flat in Sandringham yonks ago from an old biddy who did this.
  Legally the flat did not exist, while the owner rented it out for years at maximimum rates.
  Sis was on minimum wage so MSD said they would pay her accommodation supplement after she explained the landlady refused to provide receipts.
  Her power bill was very high and after she left, she realized she had been paying for the landlady’s electricity as well!
  
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  June 1, 2019 3:04pm
- Rob2
  
  Should a theft charge there somewhere now that tenancy has ruled. They will be lucky to see the money.
  Once a thief always a thief.
  
  They should make sure they make a post with his name. It will stay in google cash for a longtime so when he gets looked at it will come back to haunt him.
  Always go back a few pages.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:36pm
Maggie Pie

Perhaps a bit off topic, but i hope some of you took my advice a couple of months back and put a few ‘Hot X Buns’ in the freezer? Just got a couple out for our lunch, deep fried them in Ricebran oil, let cool, then cut in half and filled with raspberry jam and whipped cream – they taste just like crispy spicy fruit donuts. YUM! My partners absolute fave.
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June 1, 2019 2:10pm
- Alien
  
  We just get them fresh from the bakery. Laughing. The bakery in our town that has won awards for their hot x buns told us that they are jut their normal buns they sell every day with a cross on them
  
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  June 1, 2019 2:31pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Do they realise they could go to Hell for doing that sort of thing?
    
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    June 1, 2019 2:52pm
    - Alien
      
      Mmmmm, pizza.
      
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      June 1, 2019 5:09pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        No pizza tonight, but the roast vegetables have just gone into the oven with the piece of pork I’m cooking. Best of all, yams are back in season!
        
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        June 1, 2019 5:15pm
      - Alien
        
        Oh bugger pork is against my religion. Oh wait a minute, I have no religion. Maggie, I’ll keep Tony busy with moderation you grab the roast
        
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        June 1, 2019 5:20pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Yum – pork belly is my fave! If you want the best crackling in the world, you need to get a ‘Pork Prick’ from one of the specialist Chinese shops (Wah Lee in Hobson St have them). Its a small wooden handle thingy with about 30 steel spikes in one end that you prick the pork skin all over with before rubbing the white vinegar and rock-salt on top. OMG – its crack to dye for!
        
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        June 1, 2019 7:15pm
      - Tony Stuart
        
        My mother taught me how to do crackling many years ago, and as long as I get pork with enough fat under the skin, it seldom fails. It certainly didn’t fail tonight 😀
        
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        June 1, 2019 8:30pm
Swifty

Behold, the lefty nightmare:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/26/birmingham-anderton-park-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights
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June 1, 2019 2:43pm
- Tall Man
  
  What to do what to do……..
  
  Fuckwits all of them.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:50pm
tranquil

This government really does do “PR” like no other.

We’ve just had the “Well-being Budget”. I guess next year it’ll be the “Super-Duper Budget”.

The sad thing is – the budget simply keeps those on benefits locked-in as “welfare slaves” on the “welfare plantation”.
Unemployment has risen by over 11,000 in the past year, and the government’s token efforts won’t change that. They NEED lots of people on welfare. Lots of people **dependent** on them for handouts.
The media (of course) ignore all that.

Jacinda is a shoo-in for the 2020 election.
All she has to do is flash her goofy smile and every woman in the country will vote for her.
I’m just waiting for the inevitable announcement that she will have a baby due to be born a month or two before the election. More front-page-of-women’s-mag photo ops.

National are gutless and hopeless. Even if they dumped “Soy-man” Bridges tomorrow, they’re too far gone to be a realistic hope in 2020.
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June 1, 2019 3:04pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  You underrate our women. Jacinda has not performed as a capable manager which is her primary job.
  She’s very ill prepared to deal with any more economic slowdown which the rest of the world is signaling. They are spending like there’s no tomorrow, which is true for them, but tough on taxpayers who will be paying the bills. They can’t find money for teachers but Shane can buy what He wants.
  Women voters are very sensitive to the quality of housekeeping. Expect a landslide against the COL in 2020. Its happened before.
  ☑️ ☑️
  
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  June 1, 2019 5:31pm
- Rob2
  
  I suspect from what I;m hearing there is a considerable backlash coming.Women don’t like SLG much at all.
  Well working women.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:30pm
- Tall Man
  
  Is that you again brett?
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:51pm
srylands

Am in Hobart. Three people so far have told me what a wonderful PM we have. All women. Each time I asked why they thought so. The answers were vague. One said she was kind. Two said she was young. One said she liked her smile.
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June 1, 2019 3:09pm
- Swifty
  
  Unfortunately this is the level that a lot of people operate on.
  
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  June 1, 2019 5:13pm
  - nasska
    
    You could see that after Neve was born. All the mad women of the MSM who were supposed to be holding the Government to account were spontaneously lactating while gooing & gaaring over the baby.
    
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    June 1, 2019 5:27pm
    - Swifty
      
      We deserve better.
      
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      June 1, 2019 6:28pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  They’re Aussies and can be excused. Our Kiwi women are more discerning and even Jacinda is getting fed up. The strain is telling and voters are changing.
  ☑️ ☑️
  
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  June 1, 2019 5:22pm
- Humble Capitalist
  
  Always a few loopy ones out there. Tassie took a swing to the right god bless em
  
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  June 1, 2019 11:24pm
Martin Williams

Canadian politician reads accused Christchurch mosque shooter’s manifesto at public hearing.

Faisal Khan Suri, the president of the Alberta Muslim Public Affairs Council…explained how (Canadian mosque shooter) Bissonette, the accused Christchurch mosque shooter, and Robert Bowers, the man accused of killing 11 people in a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018, all shared similarities in that they were influenced by hate from “alt-right online networks”.

He went on to say, “online hate is a key factor in enforcing hate in all forms, and there should be studies into online hate and the effects it has in the offline world”.

Canadian Conservative MP, Michael Cooper disagreed with Suri’s comments, saying: “I take great umbrage with your defamatory comments to try and link conservatism with violent extremist attacks. They have no foundation, they’re defamatory and they diminish your credibility as a witness. You should be ashamed.”

To further his response, Cooper read a passage from the Christchurch mosque shooter’s manifesto on the record.

Sorry Michael. Western conservatism and violent extremist attacks are inextricably linked. Just as Muslim conservatism and violent extremist attacks are inextricably linked.

It’s the conservatism which is the common denominator.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/113177966/canadian-politician-reads-acccused-christchurch-mosque-shooters-manifesto-at-public-hearing
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June 1, 2019 3:46pm
- Kevin Herlihy
  
  Coppers outburst was extraordinary in that he chose to attack a witness presenting testimony to a committee hearing regarding online hate speech.
  By quoting a passage from Tarrants manifesto (sic), Cooper was publicly attempting to validate Tarrants ideaology which was his (Tarrant) motivation for murdering 51 people in Christchurch.
  
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  June 1, 2019 6:08pm
  - Swifty
    
    ‘Cooper was publicly attempting to validate Tarrants ideaology….’
    
    What evidence do you have for this?
    
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    June 1, 2019 6:13pm
- MrTips
  
  Lol. Cooper was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Islamic speaker on hate speech, given the multitude and decades of radical Islamic hate speech and violence. Nothing else.
  
  And your point on conservatism is misplaced and wrong. It is the conservatives who usually suffer at the hands of deranged “progressive” radicals (Christchurch – a less radical mosque, synagogues, Xtians in Africa, Sri Lanka).
  
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  June 1, 2019 7:55pm
sooty

Oh dear, oh dear. Canadian MP has been quoting from Benton Tarrants manifesto! How could he do that!
What’s Cindy going to do about it?
Will she call up baby Trudeau?
Or will her head explode?
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June 1, 2019 4:41pm
Alien

Maybe Grant Robertson could join her. Keynote speaker Hillary Clinton at the cyber defense summit. Hmmm, maybe she will be talking about bleachbit

https://summit.fireeye.com/learn/keynotes.html
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June 1, 2019 4:46pm
- cmm
  
  Why, why, why would anyone go to a tech conference with Clinton as a keynote speaker?
  
  I’ve noticed this a bit of late: technical conferences hijacked for leftie agenda pushing.
  
  * What are programmers going to do about the polar bears?
  * Why programming languages are sexist.
  Blaah, blaah, blaah!
  
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  June 1, 2019 5:38pm
  - BrownSnake
    
    Because everyone would be blown away by
    Blowjob Bill he has too much integrity
    
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    June 1, 2019 9:57pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  I had mine done once. Never putting myself thru that again – no one even noticed 🙁
  
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  June 1, 2019 7:23pm
  - Alien
    
    Well if you wore your naughty nurse uniform they would of noticed
    
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    June 1, 2019 8:54pm
Rob2

https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-news/99977/keith-woodford-exposes-another-difficult-issue-has-be-understood-and-resolved

For many years, we have been told that agriculture contributes approximately half of New Zealand’s greenhouse gases. This supposed fact has been seared into the minds of every New Zealander who reads newspapers, listens to radio or watches television.

What very few people understand is that this supposedly simple fact is based on a dodgy assumption that the effects of methane can somehow be turned into equivalent units of carbon dioxide.

I liken it to the silly statement that if you have one carrot and one banana then you have three banana equivalents. The problem with such a nonsensical statement is that carrots have a totally different nutritional profile to bananas in terms of fat, starch, sugars, fibre and various micro nutrients.

Everyone can therefore quickly see that making a global assessment about how many carrots equals one banana is nonsense. It all depends on what nutritional component you are talking about.
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June 1, 2019 8:06pm
- barnacle bill
  
  It is high time that NZ farmers fought back at all their critics.
  
  And they could do it really easily if they wanted.
  
  If they could only find a strong leader, and The Federated Farmers have many of good leaders within, and form a Farmers or Country Party and select maybe three or four key electorates and contest the next election, but they would need to get their skates on.
  
  For once MMP would be their friend, we don’t have far to look to see the tail wagging the dog in this Parliament.
  One Key electorate would be Kaikoura.
  A very strong farming based electorate, which is held by National, but currently with a very weak MP.
  
  Other electorates would be in the Mid Canterbury area, strong farming based areas and without a large urban area where the Green vote is minimal.
  
  I would think there would be electorates in the Manawatu and Hawkes Bay areas as well ripe for the picking.
  Get two or three members elected and sit on the cross benches and fight to be heard.
  
  But don’t align themselves to either of the two main parties.
  
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  June 6, 2019 7:46pm
Jack5

An interesting New Zealand immigration scheme – dreamed up by foreigners.

For innovators, many of whom gather for a tent camp.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-05-28/new-zealand-visa-requires-positive-energy-and-a-week-in-a-yurt
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